12 Bournemouth, Poole and Christchurch council 'blunders' from past and present

Bournemouth Echo: 12 council blunders from past and present 12 council blunders from past and present

This week we're looking at some council 'gaffes' of the past - with some sagas still ongoing even today.

How many of these can you remember? Have we missed any off the list? email digital@bournemouthecho.co.uk, tweet @Bournemouthecho, or leave a comment below.

The Surf Reef

Once described as “a £3m flop” and “white elephant”, the Boscombe Surf Reef has, to put it mildly, had its fair share of problems including the fact that it simply never worked as it was intended to.

We could give you an entire rundown of the saga, we’ll point you towards our Surf Reef section as it will probably take a lot less time!

The reef is expected to take on new life as a marine reef and will be opened up to snorkellers with dedicated zones for kite and wind surfers when the UK’s first multi-purpose coastal activity park opens in Boscombe.

Christmas decorations are banned

Bournemouth Council banned Christmas decorations for 6,000 staff in 2002, including at day and residential centres, because they were deemed a “fire hazard” during the fire service strikes.

Bournemouth Echo: Christmas fair to raise cash for charity

Winter Gardens knocked down after the Liberal Democrats are elected to save it

Closed down, up for sale, saved by a change of administration, under review and then demolished.

The Winter Gardens was another of the hot political topics of Bournemouth’s past.

Years of campaigning to save the Winter Gardens came to an end when councillors voted for the much-loved concert hall to be knocked down to make way for a car park.

The Lib Dems pledged to listen to the thousands who signed a petition to save the building but after gaining power and commissioning further reports they voted to demolish it. 

The building, which was once home to the BSO, was knocked down in 2006.

Bournemouth Echo: Does Winter Gardens plan trump all others?

The IMAX

Once branded ‘Britain’s most hated building’, the IMAX was fully demolished last April after years of controversy.

Built in 1998, it would be 2 years and 8 months until the Waterfront complex would open with residents labelling it an ‘eyesore’ due to it blocking the much-loved sea views from the top of Bath Hill.

Less than three years after the IMAX cinema opened, it closed in 2005 for refurbishment and never re-opened.

The four-storey glass-fronted building, which was also once home to a nightclub, a KFC, a pub , Chinese restaurant and children’s soft play area, was bought by Bournemouth Council for £6.5m in 2010 so it could be demolished.

The site was used as an open-air events space last summer with council leader John Beesley saying an Imax replacement would ‘not be rushed’.

Bournemouth Echo: Disaster banner IMAX wide.jpg for the homepage

Poole’s ‘Christmas Cone’

Back in 2009, Poole’s 33-foot artificial Christmas tree caused quite a storm. The tree, which cost £14,000, was branded a waste of money and compared to a giant green traffic cone.

The conical creation caused a wave of protest, was lampooned in the national media and even resulted in the formation of a Facebook site dedicated to slating it.

After just two weeks in Falkland Square, the tree was taken down and replaced with a real tree much to the delight of its critics. The tree went up for sale in 2010, we wonder where it is now...

Bournemouth Echo:

Food bins are binned

More than 100 brand new food waste bins were carted off to landfill after Bournemouth council staff accidentally threw them away. Refuse workers forgot to remove the food caddies that were clipped into residents’ ‘little bins’ and emptied them into the truck – food caddies and all.

Bournemouth Echo: COLLECTED: Pictured here with two of the remaining food bins are Redhill residents Nikki Edwards, left, Gordon Harvey, back left, Bob Stocker and Karen Speeden

Chips in bins

In 2006 there was outrage when 70,000 wheelie bins delivered to Bournemouth households were tagged with hidden microchips. The council warned curious householders who removed the "passive" computer chips that they could pick up a £28 bill for a replacement bin.

The news sparked accusations that the council was acting "like Big Brother" with councillors and residents demanding to know why they were kept in the dark over the devices.

Bournemouth Echo:

Christchurch council's sandbags U-turn

Christchurch council was forced into an embarrassing climbdown after it refused to provide flood-hit residents with free sandbags or plastic sheeting

Residents said they requested sandbags from the council but were told they would have to purchase Floodsacks at £30 for a pack of four.

The U-turn came after Prime Minister David Cameron publicly stated that no councils should be charging for sandbags. The council subsequently pledged to refund residents and offered to help them protect their properties.

Bournemouth Echo: ROW: Flats at Conifer Close in Christchurch and, inset, Colin West Treasurer of the Stour Banks Residents Association

Poole council spies on family

In 2008, Poole council used powers intended for anti-terrorism surveillance to spy on a family for three weeks to check whether they had lied about living in the catchment area of a top primary school. They hadn't.

Jenny Patton won a landmark legal ruling in 2010 when the Investigatory Powers Tribunal ruled the council acted illegally.

Bournemouth Echo:

Christchurch raises glass to St George... in no alcohol zone

Christchurch councillors gathered with the mayor to taste a free glass of beer in celebration of St George’s Day in 2009 only for it to be pointed out that they were drinking in an alcohol-free zone. Whoops.

Bournemouth Echo:

Casino saga

In 2007, a deal was signed on the eve of polling day committing Bournemouth to a £59m scheme for a new casino next to the Pavilion.

A major row erupted when the Conservatives won control of the council from the Liberal Democrats and discovered that the deal with the Trevor Osborne Group had been sealed that same day. It was later declared legal after an inquiry.

Bournemouth Echo: Casino

Bournemouth elects Labour mayor for first time in WWII

Until the 1990s, the only time Bournemouth council had allowed a Labour member to become mayor was in World War II – when Hitler had vowed to have all Britain’s mayors shot.

 

 

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10:31am Fri 21 Mar 14

TheDistrict says...

The biggest blunder of all, is allowing a year after year Conservative Council to run our town. Most of what has gone wrong with this town, and still on going over the past 5 to 10 years would not have happened if we had had a council who cared for the town and the towns people.
The biggest blunder of all, is allowing a year after year Conservative Council to run our town. Most of what has gone wrong with this town, and still on going over the past 5 to 10 years would not have happened if we had had a council who cared for the town and the towns people. TheDistrict
  • Score: 51

10:34am Fri 21 Mar 14

Teddy 1 says...

Poole lifting bridge....poole park And ride...poole school's catchment abolishment plans.....im certain there are more ...
Poole lifting bridge....poole park And ride...poole school's catchment abolishment plans.....im certain there are more ... Teddy 1
  • Score: 43

11:02am Fri 21 Mar 14

martin1512 says...

I can think of a few to add. Twin sails bridge. The "Welcome To Bournemouth" illuminated sign. The Noddy train fiasco. The complete mishandling of the Gypsy/Traveller invasion. The frequent scheduling of major road works to coincide with major public holidays. I am sure that I have still missed a few, after all, this is not a council that has become renowned for it's blinding succeses is it.
I can think of a few to add. Twin sails bridge. The "Welcome To Bournemouth" illuminated sign. The Noddy train fiasco. The complete mishandling of the Gypsy/Traveller invasion. The frequent scheduling of major road works to coincide with major public holidays. I am sure that I have still missed a few, after all, this is not a council that has become renowned for it's blinding succeses is it. martin1512
  • Score: 43

11:22am Fri 21 Mar 14

Hessenford says...

12 council blunders, that a conservative estimate if you'll pardon the pun.
12 council blunders, that a conservative estimate if you'll pardon the pun. Hessenford
  • Score: 38

11:32am Fri 21 Mar 14

BmthNewshound says...

The biggest blunder is made by voters who either can't be bothered to vote or keep voting for the same incompetent councillors election after election.
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In the past councillors used to be local businessmen/women and pillars of the community who had a real passion for their local area. Now we have the likes of Beesley, and lets not foget Ramsden who stand for council, not to serve the public but to serve their own interests. If you look at Bournemouth Councillors most are just there for the allowances, very few have experience of managing large complex organisations and the majority too weak to stand up to Beesley.
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The mistakes mentioned in this article are insignificant to what is happening now - Beesley is borrowing £millions whilst trying to make it sound as if Legal & General are giving the council £300m out of the goodness of their hearts, handing over Council owned land to enable property developers to make a quick buck. Beesleys legacy will be a town close to bankruptcy and a massive debt which will take decades to repay.
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But come 2015 he will be voted back into office and most of those voting won't care about his legacy because they won't be around to worry about the consequences.
The biggest blunder is made by voters who either can't be bothered to vote or keep voting for the same incompetent councillors election after election. . In the past councillors used to be local businessmen/women and pillars of the community who had a real passion for their local area. Now we have the likes of Beesley, and lets not foget Ramsden who stand for council, not to serve the public but to serve their own interests. If you look at Bournemouth Councillors most are just there for the allowances, very few have experience of managing large complex organisations and the majority too weak to stand up to Beesley. . The mistakes mentioned in this article are insignificant to what is happening now - Beesley is borrowing £millions whilst trying to make it sound as if Legal & General are giving the council £300m out of the goodness of their hearts, handing over Council owned land to enable property developers to make a quick buck. Beesleys legacy will be a town close to bankruptcy and a massive debt which will take decades to repay. . But come 2015 he will be voted back into office and most of those voting won't care about his legacy because they won't be around to worry about the consequences. BmthNewshound
  • Score: 33

11:38am Fri 21 Mar 14

Victor_Meldrew_Lives! says...

Poole Council spending 300k on a vile mural to tart up the monstrosity known as the bus station.

Poole Park and ride - 400k down the cr*****

Poole council refurbishing the Fleetsbridge roundabout traffic lights costing 200k two years ago instead of removing them completely.

Almost a million quid wasted on garbage nobody needed or wanted.
Poole Council spending 300k on a vile mural to tart up the monstrosity known as the bus station. Poole Park and ride - 400k down the cr***** Poole council refurbishing the Fleetsbridge roundabout traffic lights costing 200k two years ago instead of removing them completely. Almost a million quid wasted on garbage nobody needed or wanted. Victor_Meldrew_Lives!
  • Score: 25

12:12pm Fri 21 Mar 14

esquisquirrel says...

How about the person who decided that what we needed more than anything was traffic lights on the Canford Bottom roundabout to "improve" traffic flow?

Or any time ever that they have done those "quick fixes" for potholes, which reappear the next time it rains heavily/

Ooh, and the road 'improvements' on Castle Lane which means you go from one lane to two to three to four to three to two to one wide one to two to three to two to sort-of-one to two to one again.
How about the person who decided that what we needed more than anything was traffic lights on the Canford Bottom roundabout to "improve" traffic flow? Or any time ever that they have done those "quick fixes" for potholes, which reappear the next time it rains heavily/ Ooh, and the road 'improvements' on Castle Lane which means you go from one lane to two to three to four to three to two to one wide one to two to three to two to sort-of-one to two to one again. esquisquirrel
  • Score: 28

12:18pm Fri 21 Mar 14

wintonCheryl says...

Didn't it cost £70,000 to put a little fence up at the Cooper Dean roundabout?
Didn't it cost £70,000 to put a little fence up at the Cooper Dean roundabout? wintonCheryl
  • Score: 24

12:18pm Fri 21 Mar 14

esquisquirrel says...

Oh, and of course, whoever it was who said "Why don't we just close Townsend School, it'll be much easier, and the other schools are fine to take the kids"
Oh, and of course, whoever it was who said "Why don't we just close Townsend School, it'll be much easier, and the other schools are fine to take the kids" esquisquirrel
  • Score: 24

12:33pm Fri 21 Mar 14

skydriver says...

All good comments alas none of these councils or councillors have been made accountable and why we ask. I feel they are all working hand in glove to look after each other. This is not right and must be stopped .
The latest fiasco of course is the noddy train issue. We must not allow these councils/ councillors to run rough shod over us any more . They are all a waste of space and time
An interesting article in the echo today on how the regular employees feel about working for Christchurch. Council , says it all really.
NOW IS TIME FOR A TOTAL CHANGE , ALL OF THEM MUST GO.
All good comments alas none of these councils or councillors have been made accountable and why we ask. I feel they are all working hand in glove to look after each other. This is not right and must be stopped . The latest fiasco of course is the noddy train issue. We must not allow these councils/ councillors to run rough shod over us any more . They are all a waste of space and time An interesting article in the echo today on how the regular employees feel about working for Christchurch. Council , says it all really. NOW IS TIME FOR A TOTAL CHANGE , ALL OF THEM MUST GO. skydriver
  • Score: 18

12:43pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Chriswood says...

Please have the Councils' top 12 successes in next weeks Echo.
Please have the Councils' top 12 successes in next weeks Echo. Chriswood
  • Score: 8

12:54pm Fri 21 Mar 14

esquisquirrel says...

Chriswood wrote:
Please have the Councils' top 12 successes in next weeks Echo.
I highly doubt the council are going to do twelve good things by next week
[quote][p][bold]Chriswood[/bold] wrote: Please have the Councils' top 12 successes in next weeks Echo.[/p][/quote]I highly doubt the council are going to do twelve good things by next week esquisquirrel
  • Score: 21

1:01pm Fri 21 Mar 14

TheDistrict says...

I put it to the people of Bournemouth, as we approach the final year of this council, think what they have done for you. Are you thinking, of course the answer is NOTHING. What have they done for themselves. All received £9k plus for each year in office, more if on the cabinet, or some outstanding department. Some have had holidays to New Zealand, and others elsewhere. But overall, nothing has been done for the people. Yes we have had Council Tax stay as they are for a few years, but thats national level, passed on to local level. We have amenties added, but have failed, we have had ugly buildings, now removed, with what looks like the inside of a cattle market put in its place. We have had cinema plans, which have been cancelled, we have had more bars licenced, yet nothing for the family or visitors.

So next year in May, make sure you get out and use your vote, dont leave to the others in hope it will change, only you can make the change, you who can get out and place your vote. Vote for not who you know, but for what they can do for your community, your ward, your town. If they cannot give a truthful answer, then do not vote for them. I already know two councillors on my ward who will not get my vote, unfortunately to get rid of that party, the third councillor will have to go also.

Lets get the people into the Town Hall that we want. Get out, and make your vote in May 2015. Vote for those who will listen to you, and not those who believe we are invisible. No more Beesley Borough Council.
I put it to the people of Bournemouth, as we approach the final year of this council, think what they have done for you. Are you thinking, of course the answer is NOTHING. What have they done for themselves. All received £9k plus for each year in office, more if on the cabinet, or some outstanding department. Some have had holidays to New Zealand, and others elsewhere. But overall, nothing has been done for the people. Yes we have had Council Tax stay as they are for a few years, but thats national level, passed on to local level. We have amenties added, but have failed, we have had ugly buildings, now removed, with what looks like the inside of a cattle market put in its place. We have had cinema plans, which have been cancelled, we have had more bars licenced, yet nothing for the family or visitors. So next year in May, make sure you get out and use your vote, dont leave to the others in hope it will change, only you can make the change, you who can get out and place your vote. Vote for not who you know, but for what they can do for your community, your ward, your town. If they cannot give a truthful answer, then do not vote for them. I already know two councillors on my ward who will not get my vote, unfortunately to get rid of that party, the third councillor will have to go also. Lets get the people into the Town Hall that we want. Get out, and make your vote in May 2015. Vote for those who will listen to you, and not those who believe we are invisible. No more Beesley Borough Council. TheDistrict
  • Score: 21

1:10pm Fri 21 Mar 14

muscliffman says...

Perhaps the biggest Council related mistake has been made by us, the public.

Because we have silently sat back and watched all these fiascos (and a lot more) unfold at our expense and yet never witnessed any local Authority employee or Councillor properly called to account, disciplined, asked to resign or simply sacked over any of them. In particular every incompetent senior Council Officer responsible for these scandals has apparently remained in post, been promoted or suddenly retired early (in dubious circumstances) with a huge pay off.

So don't blame the Council's, blame ourselves. Because if we bothered to hold these Councillors and executive public employees to account, just as shareholders would require of their Directors and executive management in the private sector, we would surely see a vast improvement in the quality and competence inside our Town Halls.
Perhaps the biggest Council related mistake has been made by us, the public. Because we have silently sat back and watched all these fiascos (and a lot more) unfold at our expense and yet never witnessed any local Authority employee or Councillor properly called to account, disciplined, asked to resign or simply sacked over any of them. In particular every incompetent senior Council Officer responsible for these scandals has apparently remained in post, been promoted or suddenly retired early (in dubious circumstances) with a huge pay off. So don't blame the Council's, blame ourselves. Because if we bothered to hold these Councillors and executive public employees to account, just as shareholders would require of their Directors and executive management in the private sector, we would surely see a vast improvement in the quality and competence inside our Town Halls. muscliffman
  • Score: 24

1:19pm Fri 21 Mar 14

retry69 says...

TheDistrict wrote:
I put it to the people of Bournemouth, as we approach the final year of this council, think what they have done for you. Are you thinking, of course the answer is NOTHING. What have they done for themselves. All received £9k plus for each year in office, more if on the cabinet, or some outstanding department. Some have had holidays to New Zealand, and others elsewhere. But overall, nothing has been done for the people. Yes we have had Council Tax stay as they are for a few years, but thats national level, passed on to local level. We have amenties added, but have failed, we have had ugly buildings, now removed, with what looks like the inside of a cattle market put in its place. We have had cinema plans, which have been cancelled, we have had more bars licenced, yet nothing for the family or visitors.

So next year in May, make sure you get out and use your vote, dont leave to the others in hope it will change, only you can make the change, you who can get out and place your vote. Vote for not who you know, but for what they can do for your community, your ward, your town. If they cannot give a truthful answer, then do not vote for them. I already know two councillors on my ward who will not get my vote, unfortunately to get rid of that party, the third councillor will have to go also.

Lets get the people into the Town Hall that we want. Get out, and make your vote in May 2015. Vote for those who will listen to you, and not those who believe we are invisible. No more Beesley Borough Council.
Long winded piece of advice.Mine is much simpler if you feel the need to vote only vote for a councillor who lives in your ward,they will then soon get the message what they should be doing
[quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: I put it to the people of Bournemouth, as we approach the final year of this council, think what they have done for you. Are you thinking, of course the answer is NOTHING. What have they done for themselves. All received £9k plus for each year in office, more if on the cabinet, or some outstanding department. Some have had holidays to New Zealand, and others elsewhere. But overall, nothing has been done for the people. Yes we have had Council Tax stay as they are for a few years, but thats national level, passed on to local level. We have amenties added, but have failed, we have had ugly buildings, now removed, with what looks like the inside of a cattle market put in its place. We have had cinema plans, which have been cancelled, we have had more bars licenced, yet nothing for the family or visitors. So next year in May, make sure you get out and use your vote, dont leave to the others in hope it will change, only you can make the change, you who can get out and place your vote. Vote for not who you know, but for what they can do for your community, your ward, your town. If they cannot give a truthful answer, then do not vote for them. I already know two councillors on my ward who will not get my vote, unfortunately to get rid of that party, the third councillor will have to go also. Lets get the people into the Town Hall that we want. Get out, and make your vote in May 2015. Vote for those who will listen to you, and not those who believe we are invisible. No more Beesley Borough Council.[/p][/quote]Long winded piece of advice.Mine is much simpler if you feel the need to vote only vote for a councillor who lives in your ward,they will then soon get the message what they should be doing retry69
  • Score: 9

1:34pm Fri 21 Mar 14

hrryseccombe says...

muscliffman wrote:
Perhaps the biggest Council related mistake has been made by us, the public.

Because we have silently sat back and watched all these fiascos (and a lot more) unfold at our expense and yet never witnessed any local Authority employee or Councillor properly called to account, disciplined, asked to resign or simply sacked over any of them. In particular every incompetent senior Council Officer responsible for these scandals has apparently remained in post, been promoted or suddenly retired early (in dubious circumstances) with a huge pay off.

So don't blame the Council's, blame ourselves. Because if we bothered to hold these Councillors and executive public employees to account, just as shareholders would require of their Directors and executive management in the private sector, we would surely see a vast improvement in the quality and competence inside our Town Halls.
Absolutely. There is no accountability anymore.
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: Perhaps the biggest Council related mistake has been made by us, the public. Because we have silently sat back and watched all these fiascos (and a lot more) unfold at our expense and yet never witnessed any local Authority employee or Councillor properly called to account, disciplined, asked to resign or simply sacked over any of them. In particular every incompetent senior Council Officer responsible for these scandals has apparently remained in post, been promoted or suddenly retired early (in dubious circumstances) with a huge pay off. So don't blame the Council's, blame ourselves. Because if we bothered to hold these Councillors and executive public employees to account, just as shareholders would require of their Directors and executive management in the private sector, we would surely see a vast improvement in the quality and competence inside our Town Halls.[/p][/quote]Absolutely. There is no accountability anymore. hrryseccombe
  • Score: 15

1:40pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Valerie W. says...

esquisquirrel wrote:
Chriswood wrote:
Please have the Councils' top 12 successes in next weeks Echo.
I highly doubt the council are going to do twelve good things by next week
Put a decimal point in, 1.2, they might be able to scrape that together, if they look hard enough...
[quote][p][bold]esquisquirrel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chriswood[/bold] wrote: Please have the Councils' top 12 successes in next weeks Echo.[/p][/quote]I highly doubt the council are going to do twelve good things by next week[/p][/quote]Put a decimal point in, 1.2, they might be able to scrape that together, if they look hard enough... Valerie W.
  • Score: 4

2:19pm Fri 21 Mar 14

B Unit says...

You can add Coastal Activity Park to that list in a few months time.
You can add Coastal Activity Park to that list in a few months time. B Unit
  • Score: 0

2:33pm Fri 21 Mar 14

TheDistrict says...

retry69 wrote:
TheDistrict wrote:
I put it to the people of Bournemouth, as we approach the final year of this council, think what they have done for you. Are you thinking, of course the answer is NOTHING. What have they done for themselves. All received £9k plus for each year in office, more if on the cabinet, or some outstanding department. Some have had holidays to New Zealand, and others elsewhere. But overall, nothing has been done for the people. Yes we have had Council Tax stay as they are for a few years, but thats national level, passed on to local level. We have amenties added, but have failed, we have had ugly buildings, now removed, with what looks like the inside of a cattle market put in its place. We have had cinema plans, which have been cancelled, we have had more bars licenced, yet nothing for the family or visitors.

So next year in May, make sure you get out and use your vote, dont leave to the others in hope it will change, only you can make the change, you who can get out and place your vote. Vote for not who you know, but for what they can do for your community, your ward, your town. If they cannot give a truthful answer, then do not vote for them. I already know two councillors on my ward who will not get my vote, unfortunately to get rid of that party, the third councillor will have to go also.

Lets get the people into the Town Hall that we want. Get out, and make your vote in May 2015. Vote for those who will listen to you, and not those who believe we are invisible. No more Beesley Borough Council.
Long winded piece of advice.Mine is much simpler if you feel the need to vote only vote for a councillor who lives in your ward,they will then soon get the message what they should be doing
Long winded maybe, but unlike our Council and Councillors it gets the message across. The point with your theory, and I am in support of that, is that in some cases people from your ward may not apply to be a Councillor, or Councillors sit for other wards. My three Councillors come from Moordown, Westbourne, all outside the ward.
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: I put it to the people of Bournemouth, as we approach the final year of this council, think what they have done for you. Are you thinking, of course the answer is NOTHING. What have they done for themselves. All received £9k plus for each year in office, more if on the cabinet, or some outstanding department. Some have had holidays to New Zealand, and others elsewhere. But overall, nothing has been done for the people. Yes we have had Council Tax stay as they are for a few years, but thats national level, passed on to local level. We have amenties added, but have failed, we have had ugly buildings, now removed, with what looks like the inside of a cattle market put in its place. We have had cinema plans, which have been cancelled, we have had more bars licenced, yet nothing for the family or visitors. So next year in May, make sure you get out and use your vote, dont leave to the others in hope it will change, only you can make the change, you who can get out and place your vote. Vote for not who you know, but for what they can do for your community, your ward, your town. If they cannot give a truthful answer, then do not vote for them. I already know two councillors on my ward who will not get my vote, unfortunately to get rid of that party, the third councillor will have to go also. Lets get the people into the Town Hall that we want. Get out, and make your vote in May 2015. Vote for those who will listen to you, and not those who believe we are invisible. No more Beesley Borough Council.[/p][/quote]Long winded piece of advice.Mine is much simpler if you feel the need to vote only vote for a councillor who lives in your ward,they will then soon get the message what they should be doing[/p][/quote]Long winded maybe, but unlike our Council and Councillors it gets the message across. The point with your theory, and I am in support of that, is that in some cases people from your ward may not apply to be a Councillor, or Councillors sit for other wards. My three Councillors come from Moordown, Westbourne, all outside the ward. TheDistrict
  • Score: 6

2:38pm Fri 21 Mar 14

TheDistrict says...

hrryseccombe wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
Perhaps the biggest Council related mistake has been made by us, the public.

Because we have silently sat back and watched all these fiascos (and a lot more) unfold at our expense and yet never witnessed any local Authority employee or Councillor properly called to account, disciplined, asked to resign or simply sacked over any of them. In particular every incompetent senior Council Officer responsible for these scandals has apparently remained in post, been promoted or suddenly retired early (in dubious circumstances) with a huge pay off.

So don't blame the Council's, blame ourselves. Because if we bothered to hold these Councillors and executive public employees to account, just as shareholders would require of their Directors and executive management in the private sector, we would surely see a vast improvement in the quality and competence inside our Town Halls.
Absolutely. There is no accountability anymore.
Would we. I have compained how councillors act within their wards, and the lack of support and help they give to the electorate, unless it befits their own ideas or requirements. I have been asked to remove comments from this forum and others. An issue a few years ago, I brought it to the attention of certain ward councillors, and was basically called a liar, and that my information was false. I even had a letter from the then leader of the council telling me shut up, and to apologise. Of course I did not. This is why we need the electorate to get out there, all of them and put their votes in. Its not the fault of those who do vote, its the fault of those who do not.
[quote][p][bold]hrryseccombe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: Perhaps the biggest Council related mistake has been made by us, the public. Because we have silently sat back and watched all these fiascos (and a lot more) unfold at our expense and yet never witnessed any local Authority employee or Councillor properly called to account, disciplined, asked to resign or simply sacked over any of them. In particular every incompetent senior Council Officer responsible for these scandals has apparently remained in post, been promoted or suddenly retired early (in dubious circumstances) with a huge pay off. So don't blame the Council's, blame ourselves. Because if we bothered to hold these Councillors and executive public employees to account, just as shareholders would require of their Directors and executive management in the private sector, we would surely see a vast improvement in the quality and competence inside our Town Halls.[/p][/quote]Absolutely. There is no accountability anymore.[/p][/quote]Would we. I have compained how councillors act within their wards, and the lack of support and help they give to the electorate, unless it befits their own ideas or requirements. I have been asked to remove comments from this forum and others. An issue a few years ago, I brought it to the attention of certain ward councillors, and was basically called a liar, and that my information was false. I even had a letter from the then leader of the council telling me shut up, and to apologise. Of course I did not. This is why we need the electorate to get out there, all of them and put their votes in. Its not the fault of those who do vote, its the fault of those who do not. TheDistrict
  • Score: 13

2:48pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Dr Strangelove says...

Bournemouth council take Gold and silver medal for the surf reef and outsourcing to mouchel.
Bournemouth council take Gold and silver medal for the surf reef and outsourcing to mouchel. Dr Strangelove
  • Score: 7

3:05pm Fri 21 Mar 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

Whoa Lovely.Here we go then.

1, John Beesley.
2, Stephen Macloughlin and his images...He seeking re-election.
3,Boscombe Regeneration
4,Neighbourhood Management
5,Single Regeneration Budget.
6,BCCA
7,Surf Reef
8,Bournemouth Welcome Sign
9, Tony Williams
10, Tony Ramsden
11,DPPO (When we have no police ! )
12, Town Centre Managers that includes you, Busybody of Boscombe
13, Chris Wakefield
14,Jane Kelly.
15, Healthy Living Board
16,Bore on the shore (The Firework Fiasco)
17,Thinking ASR was going to return to repair the Surf Reef.
18,Imax
19,Lawrence Williams
20,Boscombe Tardis
21,Allowing Dave Wells to be the main housing provider in Bournemouth
22,Basically anything related to Bournemouth council..

No wonder we are called 'Clowntown.'
Whoa Lovely.Here we go then. 1, John Beesley. 2, Stephen Macloughlin and his images...He seeking re-election. 3,Boscombe Regeneration 4,Neighbourhood Management 5,Single Regeneration Budget. 6,BCCA 7,Surf Reef 8,Bournemouth Welcome Sign 9, Tony Williams 10, Tony Ramsden 11,DPPO (When we have no police ! ) 12, Town Centre Managers that includes you, Busybody of Boscombe 13, Chris Wakefield 14,Jane Kelly. 15, Healthy Living Board 16,Bore on the shore (The Firework Fiasco) 17,Thinking ASR was going to return to repair the Surf Reef. 18,Imax 19,Lawrence Williams 20,Boscombe Tardis 21,Allowing Dave Wells to be the main housing provider in Bournemouth 22,Basically anything related to Bournemouth council.. No wonder we are called 'Clowntown.' politicaltrainspotter
  • Score: 23

3:25pm Fri 21 Mar 14

John T says...

I can't imagine why this 'Beesley' article makes no criticism of the last 3 Conservative Council Leaders implicated in all the major Bournemouth Council blunders referred to, except that involving the REAL Hitler. And there is Mouchel (pronounced Much Hell) still to come.
Bournemouth voters should never forgive or forget these last 3 Conservative Leaders, namely Beesley, Charon and MacLoughlan.
I can't imagine why this 'Beesley' article makes no criticism of the last 3 Conservative Council Leaders implicated in all the major Bournemouth Council blunders referred to, except that involving the REAL Hitler. And there is Mouchel (pronounced Much Hell) still to come. Bournemouth voters should never forgive or forget these last 3 Conservative Leaders, namely Beesley, Charon and MacLoughlan. John T
  • Score: 10

3:49pm Fri 21 Mar 14

muscliffman says...

TheDistrict wrote:
hrryseccombe wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
Perhaps the biggest Council related mistake has been made by us, the public.

Because we have silently sat back and watched all these fiascos (and a lot more) unfold at our expense and yet never witnessed any local Authority employee or Councillor properly called to account, disciplined, asked to resign or simply sacked over any of them. In particular every incompetent senior Council Officer responsible for these scandals has apparently remained in post, been promoted or suddenly retired early (in dubious circumstances) with a huge pay off.

So don't blame the Council's, blame ourselves. Because if we bothered to hold these Councillors and executive public employees to account, just as shareholders would require of their Directors and executive management in the private sector, we would surely see a vast improvement in the quality and competence inside our Town Halls.
Absolutely. There is no accountability anymore.
Would we. I have compained how councillors act within their wards, and the lack of support and help they give to the electorate, unless it befits their own ideas or requirements. I have been asked to remove comments from this forum and others. An issue a few years ago, I brought it to the attention of certain ward councillors, and was basically called a liar, and that my information was false. I even had a letter from the then leader of the council telling me shut up, and to apologise. Of course I did not. This is why we need the electorate to get out there, all of them and put their votes in. Its not the fault of those who do vote, its the fault of those who do not.
Could not agree more about voting, if the majority of the public do not vote then they are indeed far more responsible for the current mess than those who do bother to participate, Mainly because on local polling day we all effectively become honorary Councillors - and all we are expected to do is turn up and tick a ballot paper.

The old non-voter's excuses that they don't like any of the candidates or the Parties represented, or 'it won't make any difference' are all as lame as they come because if any of these are true surely it is their public duty to stand for election in their own right. The people in authority behind all of these Council fiascos are only where they are because of those who don't vote (or stand for election), and many of these well known and dodgy incompetents are absolutely counting upon it staying that way.
[quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hrryseccombe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: Perhaps the biggest Council related mistake has been made by us, the public. Because we have silently sat back and watched all these fiascos (and a lot more) unfold at our expense and yet never witnessed any local Authority employee or Councillor properly called to account, disciplined, asked to resign or simply sacked over any of them. In particular every incompetent senior Council Officer responsible for these scandals has apparently remained in post, been promoted or suddenly retired early (in dubious circumstances) with a huge pay off. So don't blame the Council's, blame ourselves. Because if we bothered to hold these Councillors and executive public employees to account, just as shareholders would require of their Directors and executive management in the private sector, we would surely see a vast improvement in the quality and competence inside our Town Halls.[/p][/quote]Absolutely. There is no accountability anymore.[/p][/quote]Would we. I have compained how councillors act within their wards, and the lack of support and help they give to the electorate, unless it befits their own ideas or requirements. I have been asked to remove comments from this forum and others. An issue a few years ago, I brought it to the attention of certain ward councillors, and was basically called a liar, and that my information was false. I even had a letter from the then leader of the council telling me shut up, and to apologise. Of course I did not. This is why we need the electorate to get out there, all of them and put their votes in. Its not the fault of those who do vote, its the fault of those who do not.[/p][/quote]Could not agree more about voting, if the majority of the public do not vote then they are indeed far more responsible for the current mess than those who do bother to participate, Mainly because on local polling day we all effectively become honorary Councillors - and all we are expected to do is turn up and tick a ballot paper. The old non-voter's excuses that they don't like any of the candidates or the Parties represented, or 'it won't make any difference' are all as lame as they come because if any of these are true surely it is their public duty to stand for election in their own right. The people in authority behind all of these Council fiascos are only where they are because of those who don't vote (or stand for election), and many of these well known and dodgy incompetents are absolutely counting upon it staying that way. muscliffman
  • Score: 14

3:51pm Fri 21 Mar 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

Political parties are scrambling to buy the photo of the legs sticking out of the wheelie bins as they think it will make a great campaign poster cause hopefully this is where the tory admininstration will be put in 2015.Please don't put them in the recycling bin as we don't want them back.
Political parties are scrambling to buy the photo of the legs sticking out of the wheelie bins as they think it will make a great campaign poster cause hopefully this is where the tory admininstration will be put in 2015.Please don't put them in the recycling bin as we don't want them back. politicaltrainspotter
  • Score: 8

4:09pm Fri 21 Mar 14

retry69 says...

muscliffman wrote:
TheDistrict wrote:
hrryseccombe wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
Perhaps the biggest Council related mistake has been made by us, the public.

Because we have silently sat back and watched all these fiascos (and a lot more) unfold at our expense and yet never witnessed any local Authority employee or Councillor properly called to account, disciplined, asked to resign or simply sacked over any of them. In particular every incompetent senior Council Officer responsible for these scandals has apparently remained in post, been promoted or suddenly retired early (in dubious circumstances) with a huge pay off.

So don't blame the Council's, blame ourselves. Because if we bothered to hold these Councillors and executive public employees to account, just as shareholders would require of their Directors and executive management in the private sector, we would surely see a vast improvement in the quality and competence inside our Town Halls.
Absolutely. There is no accountability anymore.
Would we. I have compained how councillors act within their wards, and the lack of support and help they give to the electorate, unless it befits their own ideas or requirements. I have been asked to remove comments from this forum and others. An issue a few years ago, I brought it to the attention of certain ward councillors, and was basically called a liar, and that my information was false. I even had a letter from the then leader of the council telling me shut up, and to apologise. Of course I did not. This is why we need the electorate to get out there, all of them and put their votes in. Its not the fault of those who do vote, its the fault of those who do not.
Could not agree more about voting, if the majority of the public do not vote then they are indeed far more responsible for the current mess than those who do bother to participate, Mainly because on local polling day we all effectively become honorary Councillors - and all we are expected to do is turn up and tick a ballot paper.

The old non-voter's excuses that they don't like any of the candidates or the Parties represented, or 'it won't make any difference' are all as lame as they come because if any of these are true surely it is their public duty to stand for election in their own right. The people in authority behind all of these Council fiascos are only where they are because of those who don't vote (or stand for election), and many of these well known and dodgy incompetents are absolutely counting upon it staying that way.
You really couldn't make some of this stuff up could you.
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hrryseccombe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: Perhaps the biggest Council related mistake has been made by us, the public. Because we have silently sat back and watched all these fiascos (and a lot more) unfold at our expense and yet never witnessed any local Authority employee or Councillor properly called to account, disciplined, asked to resign or simply sacked over any of them. In particular every incompetent senior Council Officer responsible for these scandals has apparently remained in post, been promoted or suddenly retired early (in dubious circumstances) with a huge pay off. So don't blame the Council's, blame ourselves. Because if we bothered to hold these Councillors and executive public employees to account, just as shareholders would require of their Directors and executive management in the private sector, we would surely see a vast improvement in the quality and competence inside our Town Halls.[/p][/quote]Absolutely. There is no accountability anymore.[/p][/quote]Would we. I have compained how councillors act within their wards, and the lack of support and help they give to the electorate, unless it befits their own ideas or requirements. I have been asked to remove comments from this forum and others. An issue a few years ago, I brought it to the attention of certain ward councillors, and was basically called a liar, and that my information was false. I even had a letter from the then leader of the council telling me shut up, and to apologise. Of course I did not. This is why we need the electorate to get out there, all of them and put their votes in. Its not the fault of those who do vote, its the fault of those who do not.[/p][/quote]Could not agree more about voting, if the majority of the public do not vote then they are indeed far more responsible for the current mess than those who do bother to participate, Mainly because on local polling day we all effectively become honorary Councillors - and all we are expected to do is turn up and tick a ballot paper. The old non-voter's excuses that they don't like any of the candidates or the Parties represented, or 'it won't make any difference' are all as lame as they come because if any of these are true surely it is their public duty to stand for election in their own right. The people in authority behind all of these Council fiascos are only where they are because of those who don't vote (or stand for election), and many of these well known and dodgy incompetents are absolutely counting upon it staying that way.[/p][/quote]You really couldn't make some of this stuff up could you. retry69
  • Score: -3

5:03pm Fri 21 Mar 14

richt says...

Turning down the Morrison's plan again and therefore voting against growth in the town and local economy, is probably Christchurch council's biggest blunder recently
Turning down the Morrison's plan again and therefore voting against growth in the town and local economy, is probably Christchurch council's biggest blunder recently richt
  • Score: -2

6:33pm Fri 21 Mar 14

TWERLY says...

Can we have the Echo's greatest blunders, non-stories etc etc Oooppss sorry there is not enough space to include such an article !!
Can we have the Echo's greatest blunders, non-stories etc etc Oooppss sorry there is not enough space to include such an article !! TWERLY
  • Score: 9

6:37pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Bob49 says...

Do I detrect a cynical 'switch of sides' by the Echo - a paper that has been all too eager to trumpet the council's idiotic press releases..... Boscombe the new Sandbanks.

Yes, it would help if morre folk voted in local elections - but to what purpose if they are to be as easily as duped as before.

Mention the Kings Park supposed Ice Rink and far from provoking protest we get witless drivel about it's merits .... as if there were ANY suggestion that it was to be built. A cursory glance at the 'plans' would have shown that it was nothing more than a means to get a change of use for open park land. Much as Boscombe seafront was ripe for exclusive and expensive residential development .... just needed another distraction, and boy did they come up with a corker, if only in the millions it has lost. Remember the lights on the pier that the council had to pay to be repaired, because sea water had got into them !

Then the Imax. Not a peep about the later revealed 'comprehensive redevelopment' just simple minded guff about views and performance space. Much as claiming that the blitz was a good idea because it gave kids bomb sites to play on.

The only real mistake Bournemouth council have made is in not being more greedy, as there is as much chance of the folk of Bournemouth doing anything as there is of Eric Pickles going on a diet.

Millions upon millions rotting on the seabed, millions lost on empty surf pods, million spent on smashing down the Imax and load alone knows how much has been made handing over car parks to developers ,,, and yet not a murmur.

Stop a novelty train and all hell breaks lose. Any wonder the council does as it please and is methodically stripping the town bit by bit.
Do I detrect a cynical 'switch of sides' by the Echo - a paper that has been all too eager to trumpet the council's idiotic press releases..... Boscombe the new Sandbanks. Yes, it would help if morre folk voted in local elections - but to what purpose if they are to be as easily as duped as before. Mention the Kings Park supposed Ice Rink and far from provoking protest we get witless drivel about it's merits .... as if there were ANY suggestion that it was to be built. A cursory glance at the 'plans' would have shown that it was nothing more than a means to get a change of use for open park land. Much as Boscombe seafront was ripe for exclusive and expensive residential development .... just needed another distraction, and boy did they come up with a corker, if only in the millions it has lost. Remember the lights on the pier that the council had to pay to be repaired, because sea water had got into them ! Then the Imax. Not a peep about the later revealed 'comprehensive redevelopment' just simple minded guff about views and performance space. Much as claiming that the blitz was a good idea because it gave kids bomb sites to play on. The only real mistake Bournemouth council have made is in not being more greedy, as there is as much chance of the folk of Bournemouth doing anything as there is of Eric Pickles going on a diet. Millions upon millions rotting on the seabed, millions lost on empty surf pods, million spent on smashing down the Imax and load alone knows how much has been made handing over car parks to developers ,,, and yet not a murmur. Stop a novelty train and all hell breaks lose. Any wonder the council does as it please and is methodically stripping the town bit by bit. Bob49
  • Score: 2

6:56pm Fri 21 Mar 14

AnastasiaB says...

Anyone noticed that 8 out of the 12 are Bournemouth Council Blunders
Anyone noticed that 8 out of the 12 are Bournemouth Council Blunders AnastasiaB
  • Score: 4

7:00pm Fri 21 Mar 14

AnastasiaB says...

Bob49 wrote:
Do I detrect a cynical 'switch of sides' by the Echo - a paper that has been all too eager to trumpet the council's idiotic press releases..... Boscombe the new Sandbanks.

Yes, it would help if morre folk voted in local elections - but to what purpose if they are to be as easily as duped as before.

Mention the Kings Park supposed Ice Rink and far from provoking protest we get witless drivel about it's merits .... as if there were ANY suggestion that it was to be built. A cursory glance at the 'plans' would have shown that it was nothing more than a means to get a change of use for open park land. Much as Boscombe seafront was ripe for exclusive and expensive residential development .... just needed another distraction, and boy did they come up with a corker, if only in the millions it has lost. Remember the lights on the pier that the council had to pay to be repaired, because sea water had got into them !

Then the Imax. Not a peep about the later revealed 'comprehensive redevelopment' just simple minded guff about views and performance space. Much as claiming that the blitz was a good idea because it gave kids bomb sites to play on.

The only real mistake Bournemouth council have made is in not being more greedy, as there is as much chance of the folk of Bournemouth doing anything as there is of Eric Pickles going on a diet.

Millions upon millions rotting on the seabed, millions lost on empty surf pods, million spent on smashing down the Imax and load alone knows how much has been made handing over car parks to developers ,,, and yet not a murmur.

Stop a novelty train and all hell breaks lose. Any wonder the council does as it please and is methodically stripping the town bit by bit.
Ever tried to get a Councillor to do something. Judging by the responses I have got from the MP they don't care what the voter thinks and the Council just don't bother to respond.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: Do I detrect a cynical 'switch of sides' by the Echo - a paper that has been all too eager to trumpet the council's idiotic press releases..... Boscombe the new Sandbanks. Yes, it would help if morre folk voted in local elections - but to what purpose if they are to be as easily as duped as before. Mention the Kings Park supposed Ice Rink and far from provoking protest we get witless drivel about it's merits .... as if there were ANY suggestion that it was to be built. A cursory glance at the 'plans' would have shown that it was nothing more than a means to get a change of use for open park land. Much as Boscombe seafront was ripe for exclusive and expensive residential development .... just needed another distraction, and boy did they come up with a corker, if only in the millions it has lost. Remember the lights on the pier that the council had to pay to be repaired, because sea water had got into them ! Then the Imax. Not a peep about the later revealed 'comprehensive redevelopment' just simple minded guff about views and performance space. Much as claiming that the blitz was a good idea because it gave kids bomb sites to play on. The only real mistake Bournemouth council have made is in not being more greedy, as there is as much chance of the folk of Bournemouth doing anything as there is of Eric Pickles going on a diet. Millions upon millions rotting on the seabed, millions lost on empty surf pods, million spent on smashing down the Imax and load alone knows how much has been made handing over car parks to developers ,,, and yet not a murmur. Stop a novelty train and all hell breaks lose. Any wonder the council does as it please and is methodically stripping the town bit by bit.[/p][/quote]Ever tried to get a Councillor to do something. Judging by the responses I have got from the MP they don't care what the voter thinks and the Council just don't bother to respond. AnastasiaB
  • Score: 5

7:44pm Fri 21 Mar 14

504gld says...

My booklet with the Bournemouth Council tax bill clearly states "66% of respondents satisfied with the way Bournemouth Council runs your services"..... well, that's a statement to say a lot of people who are also P****D off too..... 55,000 people if the Council's own population figure is right on their website.

Yes 55,000 people unhappy with B.C.
My booklet with the Bournemouth Council tax bill clearly states "66% of respondents satisfied with the way Bournemouth Council runs your services"..... well, that's a statement to say a lot of people who are also P****D off too..... 55,000 people if the Council's own population figure is right on their website. Yes 55,000 people unhappy with B.C. 504gld
  • Score: 2

8:29pm Fri 21 Mar 14

zigzags says...

The 100k "fountain" in Boscombe precinct?
The 100k "fountain" in Boscombe precinct? zigzags
  • Score: 0

9:01pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Bob49 says...

zigzags wrote:
The 100k "fountain" in Boscombe precinct?
you can add that tiny little sculpture stuck in the bushes near the BIC, the quarter of a million spent on scrap iron dumped up sea road and whatever was spent on the never used wedding hut

and the huge sums of money gullible businesses spent adding the word reef to their businesses
[quote][p][bold]zigzags[/bold] wrote: The 100k "fountain" in Boscombe precinct?[/p][/quote]you can add that tiny little sculpture stuck in the bushes near the BIC, the quarter of a million spent on scrap iron dumped up sea road and whatever was spent on the never used wedding hut and the huge sums of money gullible businesses spent adding the word reef to their businesses Bob49
  • Score: 0

10:58pm Fri 21 Mar 14

Yankee1 says...

It is a real shame they no longer make Ealing Comedies.

Stanley Holloway would be the perfect Clr Beesley.
It is a real shame they no longer make Ealing Comedies. Stanley Holloway would be the perfect Clr Beesley. Yankee1
  • Score: 1

6:53am Sat 22 Mar 14

Richard 1976 says...

What about removing the illuminations down the seafront to boscombe..Yet then waste a kings ransom on scrap on sea road.. 'Come on kids, let's have a nice walk down the front to look at modern art scrap metal' ..
What about removing the illuminations down the seafront to boscombe..Yet then waste a kings ransom on scrap on sea road.. 'Come on kids, let's have a nice walk down the front to look at modern art scrap metal' .. Richard 1976
  • Score: 0

7:13am Sat 22 Mar 14

duke bingo says...

Sad atttempt at a story really!
Sad atttempt at a story really! duke bingo
  • Score: 2

8:27am Sat 22 Mar 14

tbpoole says...

esquisquirrel wrote:
How about the person who decided that what we needed more than anything was traffic lights on the Canford Bottom roundabout to "improve" traffic flow?

Or any time ever that they have done those "quick fixes" for potholes, which reappear the next time it rains heavily/

Ooh, and the road 'improvements' on Castle Lane which means you go from one lane to two to three to four to three to two to one wide one to two to three to two to sort-of-one to two to one again.
I think you'll find that the Canford Bottom work was the Highways Agency. Nothing to do with the local councils.
[quote][p][bold]esquisquirrel[/bold] wrote: How about the person who decided that what we needed more than anything was traffic lights on the Canford Bottom roundabout to "improve" traffic flow? Or any time ever that they have done those "quick fixes" for potholes, which reappear the next time it rains heavily/ Ooh, and the road 'improvements' on Castle Lane which means you go from one lane to two to three to four to three to two to one wide one to two to three to two to sort-of-one to two to one again.[/p][/quote]I think you'll find that the Canford Bottom work was the Highways Agency. Nothing to do with the local councils. tbpoole
  • Score: 5

8:31am Sat 22 Mar 14

tbpoole says...

skydriver wrote:
All good comments alas none of these councils or councillors have been made accountable and why we ask. I feel they are all working hand in glove to look after each other. This is not right and must be stopped .
The latest fiasco of course is the noddy train issue. We must not allow these councils/ councillors to run rough shod over us any more . They are all a waste of space and time
An interesting article in the echo today on how the regular employees feel about working for Christchurch. Council , says it all really.
NOW IS TIME FOR A TOTAL CHANGE , ALL OF THEM MUST GO.
Then who would you replace them with, exactly ? Unelected, unaccountable people who listen to your views alone?
[quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: All good comments alas none of these councils or councillors have been made accountable and why we ask. I feel they are all working hand in glove to look after each other. This is not right and must be stopped . The latest fiasco of course is the noddy train issue. We must not allow these councils/ councillors to run rough shod over us any more . They are all a waste of space and time An interesting article in the echo today on how the regular employees feel about working for Christchurch. Council , says it all really. NOW IS TIME FOR A TOTAL CHANGE , ALL OF THEM MUST GO.[/p][/quote]Then who would you replace them with, exactly ? Unelected, unaccountable people who listen to your views alone? tbpoole
  • Score: 4

10:09am Sat 22 Mar 14

The-Bleeding-Obvious says...

tbpoole wrote:
skydriver wrote:
All good comments alas none of these councils or councillors have been made accountable and why we ask. I feel they are all working hand in glove to look after each other. This is not right and must be stopped .
The latest fiasco of course is the noddy train issue. We must not allow these councils/ councillors to run rough shod over us any more . They are all a waste of space and time
An interesting article in the echo today on how the regular employees feel about working for Christchurch. Council , says it all really.
NOW IS TIME FOR A TOTAL CHANGE , ALL OF THEM MUST GO.
Then who would you replace them with, exactly ? Unelected, unaccountable people who listen to your views alone?
Replace them with some Swiss style direct democracy via the net; we've all got computers, lets have e-government by us, the council tax payers!
[quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: All good comments alas none of these councils or councillors have been made accountable and why we ask. I feel they are all working hand in glove to look after each other. This is not right and must be stopped . The latest fiasco of course is the noddy train issue. We must not allow these councils/ councillors to run rough shod over us any more . They are all a waste of space and time An interesting article in the echo today on how the regular employees feel about working for Christchurch. Council , says it all really. NOW IS TIME FOR A TOTAL CHANGE , ALL OF THEM MUST GO.[/p][/quote]Then who would you replace them with, exactly ? Unelected, unaccountable people who listen to your views alone?[/p][/quote]Replace them with some Swiss style direct democracy via the net; we've all got computers, lets have e-government by us, the council tax payers! The-Bleeding-Obvious
  • Score: 0

5:31pm Sat 22 Mar 14

Gastines3 says...

Almost forgot to add the loss to local taxpayers from the sale of Leybourne House.Nasty smell coming from that oneUndersold by several hundred thousand. Funny thing is the B.C.H.A. was praised as the type of Landlord the Council wanted. I bet there are quite a few residents in and around Wimborne Road in Kinson who might not agree with that point!!
Almost forgot to add the loss to local taxpayers from the sale of Leybourne House.Nasty smell coming from that oneUndersold by several hundred thousand. Funny thing is the B.C.H.A. was praised as the type of Landlord the Council wanted. I bet there are quite a few residents in and around Wimborne Road in Kinson who might not agree with that point!! Gastines3
  • Score: 1

7:05pm Sat 22 Mar 14

Phixer says...

politicaltrainspotte
r
wrote:
Political parties are scrambling to buy the photo of the legs sticking out of the wheelie bins as they think it will make a great campaign poster cause hopefully this is where the tory admininstration will be put in 2015.Please don't put them in the recycling bin as we don't want them back.
Did you read what the Lib Dems did when elected? They are hardly blame-free.
[quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: Political parties are scrambling to buy the photo of the legs sticking out of the wheelie bins as they think it will make a great campaign poster cause hopefully this is where the tory admininstration will be put in 2015.Please don't put them in the recycling bin as we don't want them back.[/p][/quote]Did you read what the Lib Dems did when elected? They are hardly blame-free. Phixer
  • Score: 1

7:08pm Sat 22 Mar 14

Phixer says...

duke bingo wrote:
Sad atttempt at a story really!
Quite, and did you notice the Echo take up any challenges when all this was going on?

The Echo is as culpable as the council leaders for letting so much go by without either bringing it to public attention or asking the questions that the rest of us seem quick to think of.
[quote][p][bold]duke bingo[/bold] wrote: Sad atttempt at a story really![/p][/quote]Quite, and did you notice the Echo take up any challenges when all this was going on? The Echo is as culpable as the council leaders for letting so much go by without either bringing it to public attention or asking the questions that the rest of us seem quick to think of. Phixer
  • Score: 2

10:27pm Sat 22 Mar 14

tbpoole says...

The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
tbpoole wrote:
skydriver wrote:
All good comments alas none of these councils or councillors have been made accountable and why we ask. I feel they are all working hand in glove to look after each other. This is not right and must be stopped .
The latest fiasco of course is the noddy train issue. We must not allow these councils/ councillors to run rough shod over us any more . They are all a waste of space and time
An interesting article in the echo today on how the regular employees feel about working for Christchurch. Council , says it all really.
NOW IS TIME FOR A TOTAL CHANGE , ALL OF THEM MUST GO.
Then who would you replace them with, exactly ? Unelected, unaccountable people who listen to your views alone?
Replace them with some Swiss style direct democracy via the net; we've all got computers, lets have e-government by us, the council tax payers!
What tosh. So every decision has to be put to a vote....would you really want to sit in front of a PC all day casting your vote on dozens of different topics. I'm afraid I've got better things to do. So the council would be run by unemployed (unemployable?) computer nerds?
[quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: All good comments alas none of these councils or councillors have been made accountable and why we ask. I feel they are all working hand in glove to look after each other. This is not right and must be stopped . The latest fiasco of course is the noddy train issue. We must not allow these councils/ councillors to run rough shod over us any more . They are all a waste of space and time An interesting article in the echo today on how the regular employees feel about working for Christchurch. Council , says it all really. NOW IS TIME FOR A TOTAL CHANGE , ALL OF THEM MUST GO.[/p][/quote]Then who would you replace them with, exactly ? Unelected, unaccountable people who listen to your views alone?[/p][/quote]Replace them with some Swiss style direct democracy via the net; we've all got computers, lets have e-government by us, the council tax payers![/p][/quote]What tosh. So every decision has to be put to a vote....would you really want to sit in front of a PC all day casting your vote on dozens of different topics. I'm afraid I've got better things to do. So the council would be run by unemployed (unemployable?) computer nerds? tbpoole
  • Score: 1

10:52pm Sat 22 Mar 14

jobsworthwatch says...

tbpoole wrote:
The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
tbpoole wrote:
skydriver wrote:
All good comments alas none of these councils or councillors have been made accountable and why we ask. I feel they are all working hand in glove to look after each other. This is not right and must be stopped .
The latest fiasco of course is the noddy train issue. We must not allow these councils/ councillors to run rough shod over us any more . They are all a waste of space and time
An interesting article in the echo today on how the regular employees feel about working for Christchurch. Council , says it all really.
NOW IS TIME FOR A TOTAL CHANGE , ALL OF THEM MUST GO.
Then who would you replace them with, exactly ? Unelected, unaccountable people who listen to your views alone?
Replace them with some Swiss style direct democracy via the net; we've all got computers, lets have e-government by us, the council tax payers!
What tosh. So every decision has to be put to a vote....would you really want to sit in front of a PC all day casting your vote on dozens of different topics. I'm afraid I've got better things to do. So the council would be run by unemployed (unemployable?) computer nerds?
You missed the words 'Swiss style direct democracy', Google it!
It would have given council tax payers the opportunity to block the surf reef, Imax etc.
[quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: All good comments alas none of these councils or councillors have been made accountable and why we ask. I feel they are all working hand in glove to look after each other. This is not right and must be stopped . The latest fiasco of course is the noddy train issue. We must not allow these councils/ councillors to run rough shod over us any more . They are all a waste of space and time An interesting article in the echo today on how the regular employees feel about working for Christchurch. Council , says it all really. NOW IS TIME FOR A TOTAL CHANGE , ALL OF THEM MUST GO.[/p][/quote]Then who would you replace them with, exactly ? Unelected, unaccountable people who listen to your views alone?[/p][/quote]Replace them with some Swiss style direct democracy via the net; we've all got computers, lets have e-government by us, the council tax payers![/p][/quote]What tosh. So every decision has to be put to a vote....would you really want to sit in front of a PC all day casting your vote on dozens of different topics. I'm afraid I've got better things to do. So the council would be run by unemployed (unemployable?) computer nerds?[/p][/quote]You missed the words 'Swiss style direct democracy', Google it! It would have given council tax payers the opportunity to block the surf reef, Imax etc. jobsworthwatch
  • Score: 3

7:30am Sun 23 Mar 14

tbpoole says...

jobsworthwatch wrote:
tbpoole wrote:
The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
tbpoole wrote:
skydriver wrote:
All good comments alas none of these councils or councillors have been made accountable and why we ask. I feel they are all working hand in glove to look after each other. This is not right and must be stopped .
The latest fiasco of course is the noddy train issue. We must not allow these councils/ councillors to run rough shod over us any more . They are all a waste of space and time
An interesting article in the echo today on how the regular employees feel about working for Christchurch. Council , says it all really.
NOW IS TIME FOR A TOTAL CHANGE , ALL OF THEM MUST GO.
Then who would you replace them with, exactly ? Unelected, unaccountable people who listen to your views alone?
Replace them with some Swiss style direct democracy via the net; we've all got computers, lets have e-government by us, the council tax payers!
What tosh. So every decision has to be put to a vote....would you really want to sit in front of a PC all day casting your vote on dozens of different topics. I'm afraid I've got better things to do. So the council would be run by unemployed (unemployable?) computer nerds?
You missed the words 'Swiss style direct democracy', Google it!
It would have given council tax payers the opportunity to block the surf reef, Imax etc.
I have now read this and haven't changed my views...I repeat it sounds like a council run by computer nerds .
[quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: All good comments alas none of these councils or councillors have been made accountable and why we ask. I feel they are all working hand in glove to look after each other. This is not right and must be stopped . The latest fiasco of course is the noddy train issue. We must not allow these councils/ councillors to run rough shod over us any more . They are all a waste of space and time An interesting article in the echo today on how the regular employees feel about working for Christchurch. Council , says it all really. NOW IS TIME FOR A TOTAL CHANGE , ALL OF THEM MUST GO.[/p][/quote]Then who would you replace them with, exactly ? Unelected, unaccountable people who listen to your views alone?[/p][/quote]Replace them with some Swiss style direct democracy via the net; we've all got computers, lets have e-government by us, the council tax payers![/p][/quote]What tosh. So every decision has to be put to a vote....would you really want to sit in front of a PC all day casting your vote on dozens of different topics. I'm afraid I've got better things to do. So the council would be run by unemployed (unemployable?) computer nerds?[/p][/quote]You missed the words 'Swiss style direct democracy', Google it! It would have given council tax payers the opportunity to block the surf reef, Imax etc.[/p][/quote]I have now read this and haven't changed my views...I repeat it sounds like a council run by computer nerds . tbpoole
  • Score: -2

10:09am Sun 23 Mar 14

jobsworthwatch says...

tbpoole wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
tbpoole wrote:
The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
tbpoole wrote:
skydriver wrote:
All good comments alas none of these councils or councillors have been made accountable and why we ask. I feel they are all working hand in glove to look after each other. This is not right and must be stopped .
The latest fiasco of course is the noddy train issue. We must not allow these councils/ councillors to run rough shod over us any more . They are all a waste of space and time
An interesting article in the echo today on how the regular employees feel about working for Christchurch. Council , says it all really.
NOW IS TIME FOR A TOTAL CHANGE , ALL OF THEM MUST GO.
Then who would you replace them with, exactly ? Unelected, unaccountable people who listen to your views alone?
Replace them with some Swiss style direct democracy via the net; we've all got computers, lets have e-government by us, the council tax payers!
What tosh. So every decision has to be put to a vote....would you really want to sit in front of a PC all day casting your vote on dozens of different topics. I'm afraid I've got better things to do. So the council would be run by unemployed (unemployable?) computer nerds?
You missed the words 'Swiss style direct democracy', Google it!
It would have given council tax payers the opportunity to block the surf reef, Imax etc.
I have now read this and haven't changed my views...I repeat it sounds like a council run by computer nerds .
Oh dear, you must be a councillor/jobsworth
. Bet you do your banking online? It doesn't make you a 'computer nerd'.
[quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: All good comments alas none of these councils or councillors have been made accountable and why we ask. I feel they are all working hand in glove to look after each other. This is not right and must be stopped . The latest fiasco of course is the noddy train issue. We must not allow these councils/ councillors to run rough shod over us any more . They are all a waste of space and time An interesting article in the echo today on how the regular employees feel about working for Christchurch. Council , says it all really. NOW IS TIME FOR A TOTAL CHANGE , ALL OF THEM MUST GO.[/p][/quote]Then who would you replace them with, exactly ? Unelected, unaccountable people who listen to your views alone?[/p][/quote]Replace them with some Swiss style direct democracy via the net; we've all got computers, lets have e-government by us, the council tax payers![/p][/quote]What tosh. So every decision has to be put to a vote....would you really want to sit in front of a PC all day casting your vote on dozens of different topics. I'm afraid I've got better things to do. So the council would be run by unemployed (unemployable?) computer nerds?[/p][/quote]You missed the words 'Swiss style direct democracy', Google it! It would have given council tax payers the opportunity to block the surf reef, Imax etc.[/p][/quote]I have now read this and haven't changed my views...I repeat it sounds like a council run by computer nerds .[/p][/quote]Oh dear, you must be a councillor/jobsworth . Bet you do your banking online? It doesn't make you a 'computer nerd'. jobsworthwatch
  • Score: 1

10:58pm Sun 23 Mar 14

tbpoole says...

jobsworthwatch wrote:
tbpoole wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
tbpoole wrote:
The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
tbpoole wrote:
skydriver wrote:
All good comments alas none of these councils or councillors have been made accountable and why we ask. I feel they are all working hand in glove to look after each other. This is not right and must be stopped .
The latest fiasco of course is the noddy train issue. We must not allow these councils/ councillors to run rough shod over us any more . They are all a waste of space and time
An interesting article in the echo today on how the regular employees feel about working for Christchurch. Council , says it all really.
NOW IS TIME FOR A TOTAL CHANGE , ALL OF THEM MUST GO.
Then who would you replace them with, exactly ? Unelected, unaccountable people who listen to your views alone?
Replace them with some Swiss style direct democracy via the net; we've all got computers, lets have e-government by us, the council tax payers!
What tosh. So every decision has to be put to a vote....would you really want to sit in front of a PC all day casting your vote on dozens of different topics. I'm afraid I've got better things to do. So the council would be run by unemployed (unemployable?) computer nerds?
You missed the words 'Swiss style direct democracy', Google it!
It would have given council tax payers the opportunity to block the surf reef, Imax etc.
I have now read this and haven't changed my views...I repeat it sounds like a council run by computer nerds .
Oh dear, you must be a councillor/jobsworth

. Bet you do your banking online? It doesn't make you a 'computer nerd'.
I'm not either, and I don't bank online. Don't trust the security. And it does make you nerdy if you think you can run a big organisation that way. Sorry.
[quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: All good comments alas none of these councils or councillors have been made accountable and why we ask. I feel they are all working hand in glove to look after each other. This is not right and must be stopped . The latest fiasco of course is the noddy train issue. We must not allow these councils/ councillors to run rough shod over us any more . They are all a waste of space and time An interesting article in the echo today on how the regular employees feel about working for Christchurch. Council , says it all really. NOW IS TIME FOR A TOTAL CHANGE , ALL OF THEM MUST GO.[/p][/quote]Then who would you replace them with, exactly ? Unelected, unaccountable people who listen to your views alone?[/p][/quote]Replace them with some Swiss style direct democracy via the net; we've all got computers, lets have e-government by us, the council tax payers![/p][/quote]What tosh. So every decision has to be put to a vote....would you really want to sit in front of a PC all day casting your vote on dozens of different topics. I'm afraid I've got better things to do. So the council would be run by unemployed (unemployable?) computer nerds?[/p][/quote]You missed the words 'Swiss style direct democracy', Google it! It would have given council tax payers the opportunity to block the surf reef, Imax etc.[/p][/quote]I have now read this and haven't changed my views...I repeat it sounds like a council run by computer nerds .[/p][/quote]Oh dear, you must be a councillor/jobsworth . Bet you do your banking online? It doesn't make you a 'computer nerd'.[/p][/quote]I'm not either, and I don't bank online. Don't trust the security. And it does make you nerdy if you think you can run a big organisation that way. Sorry. tbpoole
  • Score: 0

6:45am Mon 24 Mar 14

jobsworthwatch says...

tbpoole wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
tbpoole wrote:
jobsworthwatch wrote:
tbpoole wrote:
The-Bleeding-Obvious wrote:
tbpoole wrote:
skydriver wrote:
All good comments alas none of these councils or councillors have been made accountable and why we ask. I feel they are all working hand in glove to look after each other. This is not right and must be stopped .
The latest fiasco of course is the noddy train issue. We must not allow these councils/ councillors to run rough shod over us any more . They are all a waste of space and time
An interesting article in the echo today on how the regular employees feel about working for Christchurch. Council , says it all really.
NOW IS TIME FOR A TOTAL CHANGE , ALL OF THEM MUST GO.
Then who would you replace them with, exactly ? Unelected, unaccountable people who listen to your views alone?
Replace them with some Swiss style direct democracy via the net; we've all got computers, lets have e-government by us, the council tax payers!
What tosh. So every decision has to be put to a vote....would you really want to sit in front of a PC all day casting your vote on dozens of different topics. I'm afraid I've got better things to do. So the council would be run by unemployed (unemployable?) computer nerds?
You missed the words 'Swiss style direct democracy', Google it!
It would have given council tax payers the opportunity to block the surf reef, Imax etc.
I have now read this and haven't changed my views...I repeat it sounds like a council run by computer nerds .
Oh dear, you must be a councillor/jobsworth


. Bet you do your banking online? It doesn't make you a 'computer nerd'.
I'm not either, and I don't bank online. Don't trust the security. And it does make you nerdy if you think you can run a big organisation that way. Sorry.
Well that's funny? Go to any town and the 'biggest organisation' always is, local government, and of course, there's at least one computer on every desk so local government is already run by 'nerds'. In fact it's been the only industry for decades where the computer has increased the head count, everywhere else the computer is a labour saving device.
And guess what, you're a nerd because you are posting your comments using a computer!
[quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The-Bleeding-Obvious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tbpoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: All good comments alas none of these councils or councillors have been made accountable and why we ask. I feel they are all working hand in glove to look after each other. This is not right and must be stopped . The latest fiasco of course is the noddy train issue. We must not allow these councils/ councillors to run rough shod over us any more . They are all a waste of space and time An interesting article in the echo today on how the regular employees feel about working for Christchurch. Council , says it all really. NOW IS TIME FOR A TOTAL CHANGE , ALL OF THEM MUST GO.[/p][/quote]Then who would you replace them with, exactly ? Unelected, unaccountable people who listen to your views alone?[/p][/quote]Replace them with some Swiss style direct democracy via the net; we've all got computers, lets have e-government by us, the council tax payers![/p][/quote]What tosh. So every decision has to be put to a vote....would you really want to sit in front of a PC all day casting your vote on dozens of different topics. I'm afraid I've got better things to do. So the council would be run by unemployed (unemployable?) computer nerds?[/p][/quote]You missed the words 'Swiss style direct democracy', Google it! It would have given council tax payers the opportunity to block the surf reef, Imax etc.[/p][/quote]I have now read this and haven't changed my views...I repeat it sounds like a council run by computer nerds .[/p][/quote]Oh dear, you must be a councillor/jobsworth . Bet you do your banking online? It doesn't make you a 'computer nerd'.[/p][/quote]I'm not either, and I don't bank online. Don't trust the security. And it does make you nerdy if you think you can run a big organisation that way. Sorry.[/p][/quote]Well that's funny? Go to any town and the 'biggest organisation' always is, local government, and of course, there's at least one computer on every desk so local government is already run by 'nerds'. In fact it's been the only industry for decades where the computer has increased the head count, everywhere else the computer is a labour saving device. And guess what, you're a nerd because you are posting your comments using a computer! jobsworthwatch
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