Attorney General to review manslaughter sentence of one-punch killer Lewis Gill

Attorney General to review manslaughter sentence of one-punch killer Lewis Gill

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THE Attorney General is to review the sentence given to one-punch killer Lewis Gill, after dozens of people complained it was too lenient.

More than 40 complaints were made to the Attorney General’s office in just a few hours, asking him to examine the four-year sentence given to 20-year-old Gill.

On their official Twitter account, Dominic Grieve's office said: "Have received a number of requests to review the manslaughter sentence of Lewis Gill. Only takes one request and process now started."

Bournemouth East MP Tobias Ellwood was one of those who contacted Attorney General Dominic Grieve QC and expressed concern over the sentence.

And Justice Secretary Chris Grayling called it a “repugnant crime” and said: “I think most of the public will feel justice hasn’t been done.”

Gill, 20, lashed out at Asperger's sufferer Andrew Young in November last year after the 40-year-old made a racist remark to an acquaintance.

After pleading guilty to manslaughter, he was sentenced to four-and-half years behind bars at Salisbury Crown Court last Friday.

The Bournemouth East MP said yesterday he was “concerned” about the sentence, and had contacted Attorney General Dominic Grieve QC to ask if the case can be re-examined.

Speaking to the Daily Echo, Mr Ellwood said: “I think this is a very sad case, and will see if anything can be done about the sentence.”

Mr Young is the fourth person to die in Bournemouth in just 13 years from a single blow, with the killers responsible for each death sentenced to four years or less for the offence.

The MP said: “I am concerned about the frequency with which this is happening in the Bournemouth area.

“Whether the laws need updating to recognise that these horrible incidents are on the increase could be a factor. It's all very well saying 'I didn't mean to kill him', but people need to be aware that death can be a consequence of a single blow and that law needs to reflect that.”

A spokesperson for the Attorney General’s office said: “The process has started, it will be considered by the Attorney General to see whether he feels the sentence is unduly lenient.

“He has 28 days to make a decision. He could then refer it to the Court of Appeal to consider the sentence.”

Mr Young had exchanged words with Victor Ibitoye, who had been riding a pedal cycle on the pavement in Charminster Road, before he said: “Why don't you go back to the jungle?”

Overhearing, Gill swung a punch at the victim, who collapsed onto the road behind him.

He died the following day, November 7, at Southampton General Hospital following an operation.

Sentencing, Judge Keith Cutler told Gill: “I bear in mind your early guilty plea, I accept there is no premeditated element and provocation does exist.”

He added: “You will have to bear in mind for the rest of your life the fact that you've been responsible for the death of another human being.

“It is a very heavy responsibility and one you will have to manage to cope with.”

Warning: this CCTV footage contains graphic scenes of a violent incident

Mr Ellwood previously called for the sentence handed to sex offender and council official Robert Ian Finlay to be reviewed.

Finlay walked free from Bournemouth Crown Court in August last year after receiving a suspended sentence, despite admitting that he had downloaded 600 child abuse images.

Four victims killed by single punches in 13 years

Clive Wilcox, 42, was killed on Friday, May 4 2001 after an altercation with Daniel Scott, now 33, outside the One Stop shop in Winton.

Scott was jailed for a total of five years and one month for manslaughter and possessing and using a false passport in October last year.

Nathan Ridler, 17, was attempting to stop a fight in Bournemouth town centre when he was killed on February 24, 2008.

CCTV footage showed he had his hands in his pockets when he was attacked.

Jamie Lee Sloane, then 18, was jailed for three years and three months after admitting manslaughter.

Jason Peers, 38, was killed on the same night after being punched in the car park of the Dolphin pub in Holdenhurst Road.

Jeremy Warren, then 30, of Adeline Road, Boscombe, was jailed for three years for manslaughter.

Gill was sentenced to four years for manslaughter, and two three-month prison terms for run consecutively for committing the offence while on a suspended sentence and for handling stolen goods.

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10:50am Wed 26 Feb 14

wool525 says...

hang him
hang him wool525
  • Score: 32

10:51am Wed 26 Feb 14

adspacebroker says...

If he was that worried about the level of injury he clearly sustained why did he run off!! “I bear in mind your early guilty plea, I accept there is no premeditated element and provocation does exist.” Wrong - Provacation: he heard the man exchange words with his friend about the jungle. Wrong - Premeditated: His arms did not swing of its own accord and connect did it, he was driving it. It shows once again what an **** English law is along with the judges that apply it. A few months of 3 meals a day, TV and Xbox and he will be out.
If he was that worried about the level of injury he clearly sustained why did he run off!! “I bear in mind your early guilty plea, I accept there is no premeditated element and provocation does exist.” Wrong - Provacation: he heard the man exchange words with his friend about the jungle. Wrong - Premeditated: His arms did not swing of its own accord and connect did it, he was driving it. It shows once again what an **** English law is along with the judges that apply it. A few months of 3 meals a day, TV and Xbox and he will be out. adspacebroker
  • Score: 53

11:20am Wed 26 Feb 14

muscliffman says...

Naturally there are concerns about this entire case and I share many of them.

But for this MP it does seem that band wagons come along more frequently than 'More' buses in Upper Parkstone. And nothing to do with this particular story appearing on the front of several national tabloids including the Daily Mail of course....
Naturally there are concerns about this entire case and I share many of them. But for this MP it does seem that band wagons come along more frequently than 'More' buses in Upper Parkstone. And nothing to do with this particular story appearing on the front of several national tabloids including the Daily Mail of course.... muscliffman
  • Score: 35

11:46am Wed 26 Feb 14

hadvar says...

Mr Elwood smells votes.....
Mr Elwood smells votes..... hadvar
  • Score: 27

11:52am Wed 26 Feb 14

seaviews says...

Appoint judges for 5 Years only.
https://submissions.
epetitions.direct.go
v.uk/petitions/49745


Scary judge making up the law there was no physical provocation!
Appoint judges for 5 Years only. https://submissions. epetitions.direct.go v.uk/petitions/49745 Scary judge making up the law there was no physical provocation! seaviews
  • Score: 23

12:30pm Wed 26 Feb 14

BmthNewshound says...

Judge Keith Cutler should hang his head in shame and serious consideration should be given as to whether he is fit to continue in his role. We can only hope that the Attorney General makes the right decision and Lewis Gill spends a long time behind bars for what he has done.
Judge Keith Cutler should hang his head in shame and serious consideration should be given as to whether he is fit to continue in his role. We can only hope that the Attorney General makes the right decision and Lewis Gill spends a long time behind bars for what he has done. BmthNewshound
  • Score: 60

12:35pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Franks Tank says...

I suppose Toby does have some experience of being thumped in the street.
I suppose Toby does have some experience of being thumped in the street. Franks Tank
  • Score: 26

12:36pm Wed 26 Feb 14

mw2010 says...

Sorry people but murder is murder, not this manslaughter rubbish. Was he threatened physically in any way no. About time we got tougher a life for a life not 4 years
Sorry people but murder is murder, not this manslaughter rubbish. Was he threatened physically in any way no. About time we got tougher a life for a life not 4 years mw2010
  • Score: 63

12:42pm Wed 26 Feb 14

southborne25 says...

The fact that the case is now being reviewed is good news and i,m glad The Guardian and the BBC are covering this story and the injustice

Why mention Aspergers in the article -well perhaps in this life you should try to understand Aspergers and other mental and physical impairment and show compassion &allowances for other people .See link below for another case where someone with Aspergers was beaten up

I applaud the Echo and the family for showing the CCTV as it raised the profile of this case and at least the case will now be reviewed



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The fact that the case is now being reviewed is good news and i,m glad The Guardian and the BBC are covering this story and the injustice Why mention Aspergers in the article -well perhaps in this life you should try to understand Aspergers and other mental and physical impairment and show compassion &allowances for other people .See link below for another case where someone with Aspergers was beaten up I applaud the Echo and the family for showing the CCTV as it raised the profile of this case and at least the case will now be reviewed http://www.warringto nguardian.co.uk/news /9202642.Man_with_As pergers_was_attacked _by_neighbour_in_fla t/?ref=rc#commentsLi st southborne25
  • Score: 21

1:14pm Wed 26 Feb 14

cheeriedriteup says...

Front page of the online sun, this scum has it coming, sack the judge also
Front page of the online sun, this scum has it coming, sack the judge also cheeriedriteup
  • Score: 32

1:21pm Wed 26 Feb 14

LadyAbbie says...

This story is all over the national news - I certainly hope the amount of attention it has attracted means that this monster gets a proper sentence to fit the terrible crime he's committed.
I do notice that at least on BBC they've managed to report it without posting that horrific footage - I've not watched it as I have no desire to watch something so deplorable. You're not alone though Echo - Sky News seem to think it's okay to publish that footage as well.
Surely there are more respectful ways of highlighting how a single punch can lead to someone's death.
My thoughts are with Mr Young's family & friends - especially his mother who has been so brave in speaking out to the national press about her son.
This story is all over the national news - I certainly hope the amount of attention it has attracted means that this monster gets a proper sentence to fit the terrible crime he's committed. I do notice that at least on BBC they've managed to report it without posting that horrific footage - I've not watched it as I have no desire to watch something so deplorable. You're not alone though Echo - Sky News seem to think it's okay to publish that footage as well. Surely there are more respectful ways of highlighting how a single punch can lead to someone's death. My thoughts are with Mr Young's family & friends - especially his mother who has been so brave in speaking out to the national press about her son. LadyAbbie
  • Score: 31

1:32pm Wed 26 Feb 14

LadyAbbie says...

Sorry but why have you chosen to publish some vote-seeking speech by some local MP rather than what the victim's mother has come out to say:

Mr Young's mother, Pamela, told the Dorset Daily Echo that her son's illness affected his social skills.
-From Sky News

Just seems a little unfair to me........
Sorry but why have you chosen to publish some vote-seeking speech by some local MP rather than what the victim's mother has come out to say: Mr Young's mother, Pamela, told the Dorset Daily Echo that her son's illness affected his social skills. -From Sky News Just seems a little unfair to me........ LadyAbbie
  • Score: 18

1:32pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Old Wintonian says...

What's happened to Bournemouth? I can remember when it was safe to walk the streets in town and Charminster.
Gill will probably have a laugh looking at the Echo video in jail. It will give him bragging rights and street cred when he comes out in 2 years. The racist slur was only his word against the deceased.
What's happened to Bournemouth? I can remember when it was safe to walk the streets in town and Charminster. Gill will probably have a laugh looking at the Echo video in jail. It will give him bragging rights and street cred when he comes out in 2 years. The racist slur was only his word against the deceased. Old Wintonian
  • Score: 42

1:39pm Wed 26 Feb 14

skydriver says...

I wonder what would have been the sentence if it had been another judges family member who had been punched, considerably longer I suspect.
The man is a fool and not fit to judge a rice pudding , let alone a judge of the law.
I wonder what would have been the sentence if it had been another judges family member who had been punched, considerably longer I suspect. The man is a fool and not fit to judge a rice pudding , let alone a judge of the law. skydriver
  • Score: 41

1:45pm Wed 26 Feb 14

BIGTONE says...

Good.
Too many of these vicious cowards plead guilty to the lesser charge of manslaughter with an average of a 4 year sentence.
I'm sure the courts can find a more severe sentence if there is no possibility of a murder charge.
Good. Too many of these vicious cowards plead guilty to the lesser charge of manslaughter with an average of a 4 year sentence. I'm sure the courts can find a more severe sentence if there is no possibility of a murder charge. BIGTONE
  • Score: 27

1:58pm Wed 26 Feb 14

wintonCheryl says...

Out in 2 years? A joke
Out in 2 years? A joke wintonCheryl
  • Score: 26

2:01pm Wed 26 Feb 14

The Seasider says...

Another tragic loss. Another appalling failure of justice.

I am glad the sentence will be reviewed, it is a complete and utter disgrace, far to lenient. But as this news item shows, it is not exceptional, but instead just one more case in a long line of manslaughter cases where the prison sentences have been derisory.

The law needs a complete overhaul in the area of murder and manslaughter, along with tougher sentencing for both. The current system is causing a deep and severe loss of public confidence in any belief that 'justice' can be found in our criminal justice system.

We will soon have the appeal judges ruling on the sentencing of Brian Hampton, who killed Jade Clark in the awful hit-and-run last year. This appeal will confirm either that our local judges are out of touch with national sentencing standards, or whether, as I suspect it is, the whole system that is out of touch with the public desire for what 'justice' should be.
Another tragic loss. Another appalling failure of justice. I am glad the sentence will be reviewed, it is a complete and utter disgrace, far to lenient. But as this news item shows, it is not exceptional, but instead just one more case in a long line of manslaughter cases where the prison sentences have been derisory. The law needs a complete overhaul in the area of murder and manslaughter, along with tougher sentencing for both. The current system is causing a deep and severe loss of public confidence in any belief that 'justice' can be found in our criminal justice system. We will soon have the appeal judges ruling on the sentencing of Brian Hampton, who killed Jade Clark in the awful hit-and-run last year. This appeal will confirm either that our local judges are out of touch with national sentencing standards, or whether, as I suspect it is, the whole system that is out of touch with the public desire for what 'justice' should be. The Seasider
  • Score: 29

2:25pm Wed 26 Feb 14

BIGTONE says...

It's made Sky news.....lots of interest in this one.
It's made Sky news.....lots of interest in this one. BIGTONE
  • Score: 11

5:30pm Wed 26 Feb 14

mikeymagic says...

I speak as someone with a degree of martial arts training and combat experience. That was not a punch to shut someone up or prove a point. That was an all or nothing, everything I have to destroy you punch. It was physically unprovoked whatever the guy said. That's close to a deliberate murder. If you're a physically strong individual you know full well that kind of force can and does kill. A long time in jail and removal from decent society is required.
I speak as someone with a degree of martial arts training and combat experience. That was not a punch to shut someone up or prove a point. That was an all or nothing, everything I have to destroy you punch. It was physically unprovoked whatever the guy said. That's close to a deliberate murder. If you're a physically strong individual you know full well that kind of force can and does kill. A long time in jail and removal from decent society is required. mikeymagic
  • Score: 36

5:37pm Wed 26 Feb 14

overthehills says...

In Australia this "one punch" attack was, until recently, called a King Hit and they have now decided to call it the Coward Hit due to the previous label inferring some sort of bragging rights. There have been many incidents, some fatal, especially in the Kings Cross area of Sydney. A Coward Hit is the right name for it.

I only found out today (from coverage of this case) that anyone can contact the Attorney General's Office to object to a perceived low or lenient sentence and the request will be considered.

I am so glad that they are reconsidering the pathetically inadequate sentencing of this Coward and that the victim's family can hopefully feel that justice will be done. So very sad.
In Australia this "one punch" attack was, until recently, called a King Hit and they have now decided to call it the Coward Hit due to the previous label inferring some sort of bragging rights. There have been many incidents, some fatal, especially in the Kings Cross area of Sydney. A Coward Hit is the right name for it. I only found out today (from coverage of this case) that anyone can contact the Attorney General's Office to object to a perceived low or lenient sentence and the request will be considered. I am so glad that they are reconsidering the pathetically inadequate sentencing of this Coward and that the victim's family can hopefully feel that justice will be done. So very sad. overthehills
  • Score: 14

6:03pm Wed 26 Feb 14

old duffa says...

aamy1999 wrote:
It is absurd how nobody mentions why Mr Young was punched. Mr Young racially attacked Mr Gill and there are a number of witnesses that have said they heard Mr Young been racist . Unfortunately Mr Young died, that is why Mr Gill is been punished for his actions, but i do not think Mr Gill's intentions was to kill Mr Young, and this has been agreed by a number of people. Im not justifying Mr Gill's actions as nobody had the right to punch anybody but no on is perfect and people can be provoked.

STUPID AAMMY1999
as you can see you view is not wanted,your so called friend is going down for a long time now,you must be next ,based on your comments,glad i mentioned the petition,
aamy1999 wrote: It is absurd how nobody mentions why Mr Young was punched. Mr Young racially attacked Mr Gill and there are a number of witnesses that have said they heard Mr Young been racist . Unfortunately Mr Young died, that is why Mr Gill is been punished for his actions, but i do not think Mr Gill's intentions was to kill Mr Young, and this has been agreed by a number of people. Im not justifying Mr Gill's actions as nobody had the right to punch anybody but no on is perfect and people can be provoked. STUPID AAMMY1999 as you can see you view is not wanted,your so called friend is going down for a long time now,you must be next ,based on your comments,glad i mentioned the petition, old duffa
  • Score: -13

6:37pm Wed 26 Feb 14

nickynoodah says...

hang on get your prayer mat out nobath
20 years will be lenient you know
hang on get your prayer mat out nobath 20 years will be lenient you know nickynoodah
  • Score: 1

6:41pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Paraglider says...

Discgusting absolute Joke that was a totally unnecessary attack and he took a life, he should now give up his own life and serve it in prison. What was that Judge thinking giving such a lenient sentence.would he have given such a sentence if that had been one of his family Killed???
I will be voting UKIP in future.
Discgusting absolute Joke that was a totally unnecessary attack and he took a life, he should now give up his own life and serve it in prison. What was that Judge thinking giving such a lenient sentence.would he have given such a sentence if that had been one of his family Killed??? I will be voting UKIP in future. Paraglider
  • Score: 18

6:53pm Wed 26 Feb 14

esraym says...

The Seasider wrote:
Another tragic loss. Another appalling failure of justice.

I am glad the sentence will be reviewed, it is a complete and utter disgrace, far to lenient. But as this news item shows, it is not exceptional, but instead just one more case in a long line of manslaughter cases where the prison sentences have been derisory.

The law needs a complete overhaul in the area of murder and manslaughter, along with tougher sentencing for both. The current system is causing a deep and severe loss of public confidence in any belief that 'justice' can be found in our criminal justice system.

We will soon have the appeal judges ruling on the sentencing of Brian Hampton, who killed Jade Clark in the awful hit-and-run last year. This appeal will confirm either that our local judges are out of touch with national sentencing standards, or whether, as I suspect it is, the whole system that is out of touch with the public desire for what 'justice' should be.
Regarding the appeal of Brian Hampton who thinks his sentence for killing Jade Clark is 'Too severe' . . .

(Apologies for hijacking this thread, the Echo have been told but haven't responded)

There is a petition challenging Hampton's appeal here:
http://epetitions.di
rect.gov.uk/petition
s/56314

Please sign this and publicise it to everyone you know.

There is some more on the story here:
http://www.visordown
.com/motorcycle-news
--general-news/petit
ion-challenges-appea
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Sign it now while you are thinking about it!
[quote][p][bold]The Seasider[/bold] wrote: Another tragic loss. Another appalling failure of justice. I am glad the sentence will be reviewed, it is a complete and utter disgrace, far to lenient. But as this news item shows, it is not exceptional, but instead just one more case in a long line of manslaughter cases where the prison sentences have been derisory. The law needs a complete overhaul in the area of murder and manslaughter, along with tougher sentencing for both. The current system is causing a deep and severe loss of public confidence in any belief that 'justice' can be found in our criminal justice system. We will soon have the appeal judges ruling on the sentencing of Brian Hampton, who killed Jade Clark in the awful hit-and-run last year. This appeal will confirm either that our local judges are out of touch with national sentencing standards, or whether, as I suspect it is, the whole system that is out of touch with the public desire for what 'justice' should be.[/p][/quote]Regarding the appeal of Brian Hampton who thinks his sentence for killing Jade Clark is 'Too severe' . . . (Apologies for hijacking this thread, the Echo have been told but haven't responded) There is a petition challenging Hampton's appeal here: http://epetitions.di rect.gov.uk/petition s/56314 Please sign this and publicise it to everyone you know. There is some more on the story here: http://www.visordown .com/motorcycle-news --general-news/petit ion-challenges-appea l-of-driver-who-caus ed-teenage-motorcycl ists-death/24570.htm l Sign it now while you are thinking about it! esraym
  • Score: 3

7:44pm Wed 26 Feb 14

billy bumble says...

skydriver wrote:
I wonder what would have been the sentence if it had been another judges family member who had been punched, considerably longer I suspect.
The man is a fool and not fit to judge a rice pudding , let alone a judge of the law.
I agree with you - he is a weakling , a coward and a disgrace to the Bench
[quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: I wonder what would have been the sentence if it had been another judges family member who had been punched, considerably longer I suspect. The man is a fool and not fit to judge a rice pudding , let alone a judge of the law.[/p][/quote]I agree with you - he is a weakling , a coward and a disgrace to the Bench billy bumble
  • Score: 12

8:40pm Wed 26 Feb 14

afcb-mark says...

Did any decent law abiding citizen hear what was supposed to have been said or did anyone actually record Andrew Young saying 'why don't you go back to the jungle'. Did this line come from the mouth of the violent thug who took his life. He, his mate on the bike and the girl with them had time to come up with a story between them when they walked off down the street. Why would anyone believe a word that came out of that piece of trash's mouth. I hope his sentence gets increased and maybe one punch in there might result in Karma.
Did any decent law abiding citizen hear what was supposed to have been said or did anyone actually record Andrew Young saying 'why don't you go back to the jungle'. Did this line come from the mouth of the violent thug who took his life. He, his mate on the bike and the girl with them had time to come up with a story between them when they walked off down the street. Why would anyone believe a word that came out of that piece of trash's mouth. I hope his sentence gets increased and maybe one punch in there might result in Karma. afcb-mark
  • Score: 18

9:30pm Wed 26 Feb 14

bobthedestroyer says...

THe judge reflects that they had provoaction....I'm sorry verbally abusing someone does not give the green light to physically attack someone...."sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me" this was a cowardly act pure and simple. To say the intention to kill wasn't there is stupidity as if he didn't want to kill him then he shouldn't have punched him, no one will know the consequence of hitting another person regardless of who you are. To quote Isaac Asimov "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent"
THe judge reflects that they had provoaction....I'm sorry verbally abusing someone does not give the green light to physically attack someone...."sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me" this was a cowardly act pure and simple. To say the intention to kill wasn't there is stupidity as if he didn't want to kill him then he shouldn't have punched him, no one will know the consequence of hitting another person regardless of who you are. To quote Isaac Asimov "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent" bobthedestroyer
  • Score: 14

9:47pm Wed 26 Feb 14

curryandstella says...

Hang the b****** and the two who killed Lee Rigby. Our justice systems is too soft.
Hang the b****** and the two who killed Lee Rigby. Our justice systems is too soft. curryandstella
  • Score: 13

9:47pm Wed 26 Feb 14

scrumpyjack says...

I haven't read any of the comments because of the histrionics of the comments on the last article on this. I say histrionics but at times it was bordering on vitriol and self indulgent ramblings.

I supported those who said the clip is better to be seen than not because seeing it brought home the reality. It brought it home to those who can sit and tut at the news comforted it is unlikely to affect them.

Well look see. Other families who have lost loved ones and been affected in this way have welcomed this coverage with open arms because they have been trying for years and the video evidence has meant this has become national news and even on the front pages of at least one of the top 5 newspapers in the UK.

With this and the other events please feel free to read those in the last article who said the most acid and condemning of comments against the Echo and make your own minds up,
I haven't read any of the comments because of the histrionics of the comments on the last article on this. I say histrionics but at times it was bordering on vitriol and self indulgent ramblings. I supported those who said the clip is better to be seen than not because seeing it brought home the reality. It brought it home to those who can sit and tut at the news comforted it is unlikely to affect them. Well look see. Other families who have lost loved ones and been affected in this way have welcomed this coverage with open arms because they have been trying for years and the video evidence has meant this has become national news and even on the front pages of at least one of the top 5 newspapers in the UK. With this and the other events please feel free to read those in the last article who said the most acid and condemning of comments against the Echo and make your own minds up, scrumpyjack
  • Score: 5

9:59pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Mejulie1967 says...

The Victim had a condition where he lacked social skills and probably said literal things. It's amazing really because if he called somebody fat, thin, bald or any other adjective describing them, nobody would have batted an eyelid, but because an aggressive thug was black, he thought it entitled him to smash this poor man in the face with all his might and casually walk off with his equally disgusting other companions. With previous convictions, he was hardly a pure character or upstanding member and contributor to the community. He is a thug and the judge needn't worry about him having to 'live with himself' he probably doesn't give a **** and feels justified in his actions. Give him 10 years at least.
The Victim had a condition where he lacked social skills and probably said literal things. It's amazing really because if he called somebody fat, thin, bald or any other adjective describing them, nobody would have batted an eyelid, but because an aggressive thug was black, he thought it entitled him to smash this poor man in the face with all his might and casually walk off with his equally disgusting other companions. With previous convictions, he was hardly a pure character or upstanding member and contributor to the community. He is a thug and the judge needn't worry about him having to 'live with himself' he probably doesn't give a **** and feels justified in his actions. Give him 10 years at least. Mejulie1967
  • Score: 18

10:15pm Wed 26 Feb 14

scrumpyjack says...

These are some of the comments (a lot lot worse have been removed) that preceded the articles following the momentum caused nationwide of showing this footage for us to see the real world:

Gutter journalism at its worst. How do you sleep at night Toby Granville ?

I cannot believe this has been published. How utterly vile and disrespectful.

The Echo Editorial Staff are as Moronic as the idiot who threw the punch

Sewage journalism, Daily Echo... i think you need to take a long hard look in the mirror and question your morales.

Echo, you are an out and out utter DISCRACE.

I'm used to your daily inadequate efforts at portraying 'news' but this is another level. At the risk of repeating myself you are a complete discrace to journalism and the local community.

I object most strongly - this should NOT have been shown. The Echo Editorial Staff are as Moronic as the idiot who threw the punch.

The Echo needs to tell us whether this footage was released in agreement with this poor chaps family or is it just sensationalism on their part.





So to all those advocating we should complain to the press complaints and how you will never read the Echo again - listen to the "Jeremy vine's" program on this on listen again on Radio 2 and the families of the 'one hit' deaths who have felt relieved that we are now talking about it as a nation = talking because of the video released with this story.
These are some of the comments (a lot lot worse have been removed) that preceded the articles following the momentum caused nationwide of showing this footage for us to see the real world: Gutter journalism at its worst. How do you sleep at night Toby Granville ? I cannot believe this has been published. How utterly vile and disrespectful. The Echo Editorial Staff are as Moronic as the idiot who threw the punch Sewage journalism, Daily Echo... i think you need to take a long hard look in the mirror and question your morales. Echo, you are an out and out utter DISCRACE. I'm used to your daily inadequate efforts at portraying 'news' but this is another level. At the risk of repeating myself you are a complete discrace to journalism and the local community. I object most strongly - this should NOT have been shown. The Echo Editorial Staff are as Moronic as the idiot who threw the punch. The Echo needs to tell us whether this footage was released in agreement with this poor chaps family or is it just sensationalism on their part. So to all those advocating we should complain to the press complaints and how you will never read the Echo again - listen to the "Jeremy vine's" program on this on listen again on Radio 2 and the families of the 'one hit' deaths who have felt relieved that we are now talking about it as a nation = talking because of the video released with this story. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 6

10:37pm Wed 26 Feb 14

AFCPaul says...

Absolute scum! Bloody foreigner AGAIN!
Absolute scum! Bloody foreigner AGAIN! AFCPaul
  • Score: 3

11:26pm Wed 26 Feb 14

elfinia says...

The judge is living in an Ivory Tower if he really thinks that the disgusting man who measured up and then threw that punch will have to "learn to live with himself" after taking a man's life. I agree that Gill is highly unlikely to give a flying f###. Even if Mr Young made the jungle comment .... so what ?.....he said something stupid....maybe they said something stupid just before. A silly comment and he retorted with a massive killer punch.....and IMO that silly comment ( if it was ever made) was just a useful excuse to behave like that.
He should go away for ten years and he will still be a young man when he gets out.
Unbelievably sad and dreadful.
The judge is living in an Ivory Tower if he really thinks that the disgusting man who measured up and then threw that punch will have to "learn to live with himself" after taking a man's life. I agree that Gill is highly unlikely to give a flying f###. Even if Mr Young made the jungle comment .... so what ?.....he said something stupid....maybe they said something stupid just before. A silly comment and he retorted with a massive killer punch.....and IMO that silly comment ( if it was ever made) was just a useful excuse to behave like that. He should go away for ten years and he will still be a young man when he gets out. Unbelievably sad and dreadful. elfinia
  • Score: 9

11:44pm Wed 26 Feb 14

RM says...

Are there any others witnesses to Mr Young's alleged remark apart from Gill's friends? Hope that is something the AG will check out as it could wipe out the alleged 'provocation' angle.
Are there any others witnesses to Mr Young's alleged remark apart from Gill's friends? Hope that is something the AG will check out as it could wipe out the alleged 'provocation' angle. RM
  • Score: 10

12:46am Thu 27 Feb 14

HRH of Boscombe says...

BIGTONE wrote:
It's made Sky news.....lots of interest in this one.
And the rest of national news but guess that's the only reason the AG get's involved
.
Just another example of how Murdoch and his red tops have the real power no matter how cheesy they are.
[quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: It's made Sky news.....lots of interest in this one.[/p][/quote]And the rest of national news but guess that's the only reason the AG get's involved . Just another example of how Murdoch and his red tops have the real power no matter how cheesy they are. HRH of Boscombe
  • Score: 2

9:03am Thu 27 Feb 14

suzigirl says...

Another waste of taxpayers money - they should have got it right the first time and locked him up indefinitely!
Another waste of taxpayers money - they should have got it right the first time and locked him up indefinitely! suzigirl
  • Score: 1

9:32am Thu 27 Feb 14

spryte67 says...

Isn't it about time the judiciary in this country took into account the feelings of everyday people. When a crime like this happens, then there is going to be a sentence that will actually reflect the severity of the crime. Manslaughter (albeit I think it was murder) still carries a life sentence. So judge get your upper class blinkers off and dispense sentencing as it should be done. Not only should this sentence be reviewed, but also the judges method of sentencing by the Master of the Rolls.
Isn't it about time the judiciary in this country took into account the feelings of everyday people. When a crime like this happens, then there is going to be a sentence that will actually reflect the severity of the crime. Manslaughter (albeit I think it was murder) still carries a life sentence. So judge get your upper class blinkers off and dispense sentencing as it should be done. Not only should this sentence be reviewed, but also the judges method of sentencing by the Master of the Rolls. spryte67
  • Score: 6

11:07am Thu 27 Feb 14

Major Futtock says...

When a blatant act of murder is captured on TWO CCTV cameras, such as in this case, so there is NO DOUBT whatsoever. It is a very good case to reinstate the death penalty. Four years out in two is a complete farce. The judge responsible should be sacked!
When a blatant act of murder is captured on TWO CCTV cameras, such as in this case, so there is NO DOUBT whatsoever. It is a very good case to reinstate the death penalty. Four years out in two is a complete farce. The judge responsible should be sacked! Major Futtock
  • Score: 10

11:29am Thu 27 Feb 14

smhinto says...

The sentence should be reviewed to include the following choices i.e.
firing squad, gas chamber, Gillotine, hung drawn and quartered or perhaps the Gibbett.
The sentence should be reviewed to include the following choices i.e. firing squad, gas chamber, Gillotine, hung drawn and quartered or perhaps the Gibbett. smhinto
  • Score: 3

1:52pm Thu 27 Feb 14

southborne25 says...

Maybe the whole issue of online websites and the editorial control should be reviewed

the You tube of this incident and the comments are despicable
Maybe the whole issue of online websites and the editorial control should be reviewed the You tube of this incident and the comments are despicable southborne25
  • Score: 0

4:43pm Thu 27 Feb 14

SeafaringMan says...

According to the Daily Telegraph "The mother of a man who knocked down and killed an autistic boy with one punch dismissed it as “no big deal” and something that would be “forgotten tomorrow.”
I can think of no appropriate comment.
According to the Daily Telegraph "The mother of a man who knocked down and killed an autistic boy with one punch dismissed it as “no big deal” and something that would be “forgotten tomorrow.” I can think of no appropriate comment. SeafaringMan
  • Score: 6

5:03pm Thu 27 Feb 14

O'Reilly says...

Old Wintonian wrote:
What's happened to Bournemouth? I can remember when it was safe to walk the streets in town and Charminster.
Gill will probably have a laugh looking at the Echo video in jail. It will give him bragging rights and street cred when he comes out in 2 years. The racist slur was only his word against the deceased.
It also went a long way to reducing his sentence.....
[quote][p][bold]Old Wintonian[/bold] wrote: What's happened to Bournemouth? I can remember when it was safe to walk the streets in town and Charminster. Gill will probably have a laugh looking at the Echo video in jail. It will give him bragging rights and street cred when he comes out in 2 years. The racist slur was only his word against the deceased.[/p][/quote]It also went a long way to reducing his sentence..... O'Reilly
  • Score: 4

5:27pm Thu 27 Feb 14

tomclark says...

mw2010 wrote:
Sorry people but murder is murder, not this manslaughter rubbish. Was he threatened physically in any way no. About time we got tougher a life for a life not 4 years
Murder is defined as the intentional taking of an innocent life. How do you know that his intention was to kill and not simply cause grievous harm?
[quote][p][bold]mw2010[/bold] wrote: Sorry people but murder is murder, not this manslaughter rubbish. Was he threatened physically in any way no. About time we got tougher a life for a life not 4 years[/p][/quote]Murder is defined as the intentional taking of an innocent life. How do you know that his intention was to kill and not simply cause grievous harm? tomclark
  • Score: -1

6:17pm Thu 27 Feb 14

dannyhb says...

One Punch Can Kill Sentence - e-petitions http://epetitions.di
rect.gov.uk/petition
s/50940
One Punch Can Kill Sentence - e-petitions http://epetitions.di rect.gov.uk/petition s/50940 dannyhb
  • Score: 3

7:48pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Justice jones says...

a story like this sickens me but to have the mother off convicted to say it's not a big deal makes the matter worse and to even think about saying, it will all be forgotten tomorrow is a different matter. 6 years with no parole and 5 minutes with the parents, no guards, no police, no security.. Mrs Sherron O' Hagan off Sutton, I hope he rots but it is the criminal justice system and would you be saying the same if it was your son.
a story like this sickens me but to have the mother off convicted to say it's not a big deal makes the matter worse and to even think about saying, it will all be forgotten tomorrow is a different matter. 6 years with no parole and 5 minutes with the parents, no guards, no police, no security.. Mrs Sherron O' Hagan off Sutton, I hope he rots but it is the criminal justice system and would you be saying the same if it was your son. Justice jones
  • Score: 3

8:25pm Thu 27 Feb 14

alisont1964 says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
These are some of the comments (a lot lot worse have been removed) that preceded the articles following the momentum caused nationwide of showing this footage for us to see the real world:

Gutter journalism at its worst. How do you sleep at night Toby Granville ?

I cannot believe this has been published. How utterly vile and disrespectful.

The Echo Editorial Staff are as Moronic as the idiot who threw the punch

Sewage journalism, Daily Echo... i think you need to take a long hard look in the mirror and question your morales.

Echo, you are an out and out utter DISCRACE.

I'm used to your daily inadequate efforts at portraying 'news' but this is another level. At the risk of repeating myself you are a complete discrace to journalism and the local community.

I object most strongly - this should NOT have been shown. The Echo Editorial Staff are as Moronic as the idiot who threw the punch.

The Echo needs to tell us whether this footage was released in agreement with this poor chaps family or is it just sensationalism on their part.





So to all those advocating we should complain to the press complaints and how you will never read the Echo again - listen to the "Jeremy vine's" program on this on listen again on Radio 2 and the families of the 'one hit' deaths who have felt relieved that we are now talking about it as a nation = talking because of the video released with this story.
The video the echo is showing shows the complete impact. An editor with any sense of decency would have edited the video just before impact but after the punch was thrown. This would have left the viewer in no doubt about the situation. What the echo has published is nothing but a snuff movie which shows a complete lack of respect to the victim and his family.
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: These are some of the comments (a lot lot worse have been removed) that preceded the articles following the momentum caused nationwide of showing this footage for us to see the real world: Gutter journalism at its worst. How do you sleep at night Toby Granville ? I cannot believe this has been published. How utterly vile and disrespectful. The Echo Editorial Staff are as Moronic as the idiot who threw the punch Sewage journalism, Daily Echo... i think you need to take a long hard look in the mirror and question your morales. Echo, you are an out and out utter DISCRACE. I'm used to your daily inadequate efforts at portraying 'news' but this is another level. At the risk of repeating myself you are a complete discrace to journalism and the local community. I object most strongly - this should NOT have been shown. The Echo Editorial Staff are as Moronic as the idiot who threw the punch. The Echo needs to tell us whether this footage was released in agreement with this poor chaps family or is it just sensationalism on their part. So to all those advocating we should complain to the press complaints and how you will never read the Echo again - listen to the "Jeremy vine's" program on this on listen again on Radio 2 and the families of the 'one hit' deaths who have felt relieved that we are now talking about it as a nation = talking because of the video released with this story.[/p][/quote]The video the echo is showing shows the complete impact. An editor with any sense of decency would have edited the video just before impact but after the punch was thrown. This would have left the viewer in no doubt about the situation. What the echo has published is nothing but a snuff movie which shows a complete lack of respect to the victim and his family. alisont1964
  • Score: -2

8:57pm Thu 27 Feb 14

antiquebuyer321 says...

mikeymagic wrote:
I speak as someone with a degree of martial arts training and combat experience. That was not a punch to shut someone up or prove a point. That was an all or nothing, everything I have to destroy you punch. It was physically unprovoked whatever the guy said. That's close to a deliberate murder. If you're a physically strong individual you know full well that kind of force can and does kill. A long time in jail and removal from decent society is required.
I'm an x doorman, and I used to box when I was younger.I have also got 3 common assaults and a grave and criminal assault on my record.I never hit anyone who Didnt want to fight me, it was always brawling between me and another guy, its just that I always won the fight.I am now 50 years old and have seen the error of my ways.None of my fights ended in anyone getting seriously hurt.We always let each other stand back up before asking if we wanted to continue the fight, not start booting the crap out of someone's head.
I agree with your comment 100% in that that piece of scum put everything he had in that punc, knowing that the victim was no threat what so ever.
This was 1st degree murder and not manslaughter.
This scum should serve at least 15 years behind bars, so that means a sentence of at Least 30 years.
Britain, the crime capital of Europe.Come on Mr Cameron, its time to get tough and listen to the people who vote for you and pay your wages.
I would bring back the death penalty in a heart beat if I were in charge.
Norman and teresa
[quote][p][bold]mikeymagic[/bold] wrote: I speak as someone with a degree of martial arts training and combat experience. That was not a punch to shut someone up or prove a point. That was an all or nothing, everything I have to destroy you punch. It was physically unprovoked whatever the guy said. That's close to a deliberate murder. If you're a physically strong individual you know full well that kind of force can and does kill. A long time in jail and removal from decent society is required.[/p][/quote]I'm an x doorman, and I used to box when I was younger.I have also got 3 common assaults and a grave and criminal assault on my record.I never hit anyone who Didnt want to fight me, it was always brawling between me and another guy, its just that I always won the fight.I am now 50 years old and have seen the error of my ways.None of my fights ended in anyone getting seriously hurt.We always let each other stand back up before asking if we wanted to continue the fight, not start booting the crap out of someone's head. I agree with your comment 100% in that that piece of scum put everything he had in that punc, knowing that the victim was no threat what so ever. This was 1st degree murder and not manslaughter. This scum should serve at least 15 years behind bars, so that means a sentence of at Least 30 years. Britain, the crime capital of Europe.Come on Mr Cameron, its time to get tough and listen to the people who vote for you and pay your wages. I would bring back the death penalty in a heart beat if I were in charge. Norman and teresa antiquebuyer321
  • Score: 4

10:04pm Thu 27 Feb 14

Bob49 says...

"I would bring back the death penalty in a heart beat if I were in charge."


yep, and increase the murder rate and dramatically reduce the conviction rate

however monstrous this killing was, idiotic responses are not the answer

Britain is not a capital either

and you may wish to ponder these statistics as of April 2013 -

Violent crime in Britain has fallen by a quarter in the past decade, according to a study.

The UK has experienced a ‘substantial and sustained’ fall in offences ranging from drunken thuggery to murder since 2003, the report suggests.

And official statistics show violent crime is now at its lowest level for 30 years.

and the source ....................
........that ultra leftie paper the Daily Mail

http://www.dailymail
.co.uk/news/article-
2313942/UK-Peace-Ind
ex-Rate-murders-viol
ent-crime-falling-fa
ster-Western-Europe.
html#ixzz2uYvmtGx1
"I would bring back the death penalty in a heart beat if I were in charge." yep, and increase the murder rate and dramatically reduce the conviction rate however monstrous this killing was, idiotic responses are not the answer Britain is not a capital either and you may wish to ponder these statistics as of April 2013 - Violent crime in Britain has fallen by a quarter in the past decade, according to a study. The UK has experienced a ‘substantial and sustained’ fall in offences ranging from drunken thuggery to murder since 2003, the report suggests. And official statistics show violent crime is now at its lowest level for 30 years. and the source .................... ........that ultra leftie paper the Daily Mail http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2313942/UK-Peace-Ind ex-Rate-murders-viol ent-crime-falling-fa ster-Western-Europe. html#ixzz2uYvmtGx1 Bob49
  • Score: -1

11:08pm Thu 27 Feb 14

scrumpyjack says...

alisont1964 wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
These are some of the comments (a lot lot worse have been removed) that preceded the articles following the momentum caused nationwide of showing this footage for us to see the real world:

Gutter journalism at its worst. How do you sleep at night Toby Granville ?

I cannot believe this has been published. How utterly vile and disrespectful.

The Echo Editorial Staff are as Moronic as the idiot who threw the punch

Sewage journalism, Daily Echo... i think you need to take a long hard look in the mirror and question your morales.

Echo, you are an out and out utter DISCRACE.

I'm used to your daily inadequate efforts at portraying 'news' but this is another level. At the risk of repeating myself you are a complete discrace to journalism and the local community.

I object most strongly - this should NOT have been shown. The Echo Editorial Staff are as Moronic as the idiot who threw the punch.

The Echo needs to tell us whether this footage was released in agreement with this poor chaps family or is it just sensationalism on their part.





So to all those advocating we should complain to the press complaints and how you will never read the Echo again - listen to the "Jeremy vine's" program on this on listen again on Radio 2 and the families of the 'one hit' deaths who have felt relieved that we are now talking about it as a nation = talking because of the video released with this story.
The video the echo is showing shows the complete impact. An editor with any sense of decency would have edited the video just before impact but after the punch was thrown. This would have left the viewer in no doubt about the situation. What the echo has published is nothing but a snuff movie which shows a complete lack of respect to the victim and his family.
Completely disagree.

But that's life.
[quote][p][bold]alisont1964[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: These are some of the comments (a lot lot worse have been removed) that preceded the articles following the momentum caused nationwide of showing this footage for us to see the real world: Gutter journalism at its worst. How do you sleep at night Toby Granville ? I cannot believe this has been published. How utterly vile and disrespectful. The Echo Editorial Staff are as Moronic as the idiot who threw the punch Sewage journalism, Daily Echo... i think you need to take a long hard look in the mirror and question your morales. Echo, you are an out and out utter DISCRACE. I'm used to your daily inadequate efforts at portraying 'news' but this is another level. At the risk of repeating myself you are a complete discrace to journalism and the local community. I object most strongly - this should NOT have been shown. The Echo Editorial Staff are as Moronic as the idiot who threw the punch. The Echo needs to tell us whether this footage was released in agreement with this poor chaps family or is it just sensationalism on their part. So to all those advocating we should complain to the press complaints and how you will never read the Echo again - listen to the "Jeremy vine's" program on this on listen again on Radio 2 and the families of the 'one hit' deaths who have felt relieved that we are now talking about it as a nation = talking because of the video released with this story.[/p][/quote]The video the echo is showing shows the complete impact. An editor with any sense of decency would have edited the video just before impact but after the punch was thrown. This would have left the viewer in no doubt about the situation. What the echo has published is nothing but a snuff movie which shows a complete lack of respect to the victim and his family.[/p][/quote]Completely disagree. But that's life. scrumpyjack
  • Score: -1

7:56pm Fri 28 Feb 14

antiquebuyer321 says...

Bob49 wrote:
"I would bring back the death penalty in a heart beat if I were in charge."


yep, and increase the murder rate and dramatically reduce the conviction rate

however monstrous this killing was, idiotic responses are not the answer

Britain is not a capital either

and you may wish to ponder these statistics as of April 2013 -

Violent crime in Britain has fallen by a quarter in the past decade, according to a study.

The UK has experienced a ‘substantial and sustained’ fall in offences ranging from drunken thuggery to murder since 2003, the report suggests.

And official statistics show violent crime is now at its lowest level for 30 years.

and the source ....................

........that ultra leftie paper the Daily Mail

http://www.dailymail

.co.uk/news/article-

2313942/UK-Peace-Ind

ex-Rate-murders-viol

ent-crime-falling-fa

ster-Western-Europe.

html#ixzz2uYvmtGx1
So, violent crime is on the decrease, lol
I think you read too many government reports/statistics IMO.
I suppose you don't think that we have an immigration problem either.
Whatever.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: "I would bring back the death penalty in a heart beat if I were in charge." yep, and increase the murder rate and dramatically reduce the conviction rate however monstrous this killing was, idiotic responses are not the answer Britain is not a capital either and you may wish to ponder these statistics as of April 2013 - Violent crime in Britain has fallen by a quarter in the past decade, according to a study. The UK has experienced a ‘substantial and sustained’ fall in offences ranging from drunken thuggery to murder since 2003, the report suggests. And official statistics show violent crime is now at its lowest level for 30 years. and the source .................... ........that ultra leftie paper the Daily Mail http://www.dailymail .co.uk/news/article- 2313942/UK-Peace-Ind ex-Rate-murders-viol ent-crime-falling-fa ster-Western-Europe. html#ixzz2uYvmtGx1[/p][/quote]So, violent crime is on the decrease, lol I think you read too many government reports/statistics IMO. I suppose you don't think that we have an immigration problem either. Whatever. antiquebuyer321
  • Score: 1

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