“Bournemouth deserves better” – cinema supporter hits out at ‘bland’ Winter Gardens plans

Bournemouth Echo: NEED: plans for a new Winter Gardens scheme NEED: plans for a new Winter Gardens scheme

“BOURNEMOUTH deserves better” than the “bland” multiplex cinema planned as part of the Winter Gardens redevelopment scheme, it has been claimed.

The plans to build a cinema-led leisure complex, hotel, shops, restaurants and 114 flats on the site have been submitted by Inland Ltd, a year after a similar scheme was unanimously rejected by the council’s planning board.

But the application has sparked a vociferous objection from the Save Bournemouth Odeon Campaign and from several Cranborne Road residents, who want to know what kind of leisure and entertainment is planned for the site.

Marcus Hughes, frontman for the Save Bournemouth Odeon campaign, said: “Whilst Bournemouth Council continue to present bland multibox proposals this campaign will continue to vehemently object on the grounds of loss of important culture and streetscape.

“The average multiplex cinema has as much architecture and atmosphere as a bar on the moon and Bournemouth simply deserves much better.”

Kevin Linzner, who lives at Carlton Mount in Cranborne Road, said: “On viewing the scheme I found this to be an exact replicate of the previous scheme submitted by APB Park Ltd last year, all be it without any exacting details of what the site would actually be used for and without any real understanding of the design, other than a rough shape.

“We all know what happened last time we built a box...we pulled the Imax down.”

Bournemouth’s Civic Society has welcomed some aspects of the design but still expressed concern the development would lead to “excessive, high density metropolitanisation of the Exeter Road frontage.”

But Mark Gilpin of Inland Ltd said: “This is a wholly new set of proposals than have previously been submitted for the Winter Gardens site. We are ambitious to bring an exciting and innovative public realm and Grand Garden Walk element, something local people were very excited about at the recent exhibition.

“Those who did attend the exhibition from Cranborne Road were broadly supportive of the proposals.

“We will be happy to engage further with residents and members of the Civic Society but are very keen to maintain the current planning application timetable.”

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9:40am Thu 3 Jul 14

Edna Cheese (Mrs) says...

ZZZZzzzz. How long has this been going on? A bit like the old bus station site.
ZZZZzzzz. How long has this been going on? A bit like the old bus station site. Edna Cheese (Mrs)
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9:54am Thu 3 Jul 14

BmthNewshound says...

I think the word "bland" pretty much describes most of the new buildings built in Bournemouth over the past couple of decades. If you look around the UK new schemes such as this have shown a much higher level of creativity and design which will stand the test of time. Even locally the new Brewery Square, although not perfect, is far superior than anything planned for Bournemouth. In Bournemouth it is as if developments have been designed by computer to cram as much as possible onto the site and generate maximum profits for developers rather than create quality developments which will still be standing and look good in decades to come.
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In respect of the Winter Gardens as Beesley has expressed the opinion that he wants the site to be handed over to the Morgan Sindall led Bournemouth Development Company I think it is doubtful that the planning committee will be permitted to approve this application.
I think the word "bland" pretty much describes most of the new buildings built in Bournemouth over the past couple of decades. If you look around the UK new schemes such as this have shown a much higher level of creativity and design which will stand the test of time. Even locally the new Brewery Square, although not perfect, is far superior than anything planned for Bournemouth. In Bournemouth it is as if developments have been designed by computer to cram as much as possible onto the site and generate maximum profits for developers rather than create quality developments which will still be standing and look good in decades to come. . In respect of the Winter Gardens as Beesley has expressed the opinion that he wants the site to be handed over to the Morgan Sindall led Bournemouth Development Company I think it is doubtful that the planning committee will be permitted to approve this application. BmthNewshound
  • Score: 5

11:10am Thu 3 Jul 14

Chriswood says...

Evidence of the further cheapening of Bournemouth. Wheels Fest, Pier Zip Wire, etc.
Evidence of the further cheapening of Bournemouth. Wheels Fest, Pier Zip Wire, etc. Chriswood
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1:18pm Thu 3 Jul 14

muscliffman says...

Bland?

Well we have all seen the artists impression, a number of sterile glass mini-Imax boxes, plenty of empty paving, a few trees and a scattering of tall thin young people......or is that another one of the several planned Bournemouth developments?
Bland? Well we have all seen the artists impression, a number of sterile glass mini-Imax boxes, plenty of empty paving, a few trees and a scattering of tall thin young people......or is that another one of the several planned Bournemouth developments? muscliffman
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3:33pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Branksome snail says...

How about some kind of...., I don't know, concert venue?

Seriously though, its a pretty smallish area and in fact the Winter Gardens was pretty shoe box like. It just was attractive due to its heritage and was the same brick as the pavilion. Glass shoe boxes are cheaper, as sad a fact as that is. Also its pretty much perched on top of a hill. People will only really see the front? How many people really ever walked around the Winter Gardens as it was? The stupid casino thing that was planned was ugly, and it mattered because it faced onto the pavilion and westover road and the sea. This site it surrounded by trees so the first thing that should happen is get those protected if possible.
How about some kind of...., I don't know, concert venue? Seriously though, its a pretty smallish area and in fact the Winter Gardens was pretty shoe box like. It just was attractive due to its heritage and was the same brick as the pavilion. Glass shoe boxes are cheaper, as sad a fact as that is. Also its pretty much perched on top of a hill. People will only really see the front? How many people really ever walked around the Winter Gardens as it was? The stupid casino thing that was planned was ugly, and it mattered because it faced onto the pavilion and westover road and the sea. This site it surrounded by trees so the first thing that should happen is get those protected if possible. Branksome snail
  • Score: -1

4:00pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Branksome snail says...

BmthNewshound wrote:
I think the word "bland" pretty much describes most of the new buildings built in Bournemouth over the past couple of decades. If you look around the UK new schemes such as this have shown a much higher level of creativity and design which will stand the test of time. Even locally the new Brewery Square, although not perfect, is far superior than anything planned for Bournemouth. In Bournemouth it is as if developments have been designed by computer to cram as much as possible onto the site and generate maximum profits for developers rather than create quality developments which will still be standing and look good in decades to come.
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In respect of the Winter Gardens as Beesley has expressed the opinion that he wants the site to be handed over to the Morgan Sindall led Bournemouth Development Company I think it is doubtful that the planning committee will be permitted to approve this application.
In terms of Morgan Sindall it is potentially a 20 year and £350-500million partnership.
My god what will the town look like at the end of it when our counselors scurry off into the shadows?

Ive got a feeling this is going to end up as one of their 17 or whatever sites for development and in 20 years time it will all be too late. Morgan Sindall dont care what they do, they're based in London!

BBC handover a site - dozens of flats go up - bang - £1million extra in council tax within five years, and to hell with the rest of the town!

All completely legal and above board. They only power bigger than the council is the local MP and then the government.

Errr... where is he again?
[quote][p][bold]BmthNewshound[/bold] wrote: I think the word "bland" pretty much describes most of the new buildings built in Bournemouth over the past couple of decades. If you look around the UK new schemes such as this have shown a much higher level of creativity and design which will stand the test of time. Even locally the new Brewery Square, although not perfect, is far superior than anything planned for Bournemouth. In Bournemouth it is as if developments have been designed by computer to cram as much as possible onto the site and generate maximum profits for developers rather than create quality developments which will still be standing and look good in decades to come. . In respect of the Winter Gardens as Beesley has expressed the opinion that he wants the site to be handed over to the Morgan Sindall led Bournemouth Development Company I think it is doubtful that the planning committee will be permitted to approve this application.[/p][/quote]In terms of Morgan Sindall it is potentially a 20 year and £350-500million partnership. My god what will the town look like at the end of it when our counselors scurry off into the shadows? Ive got a feeling this is going to end up as one of their 17 or whatever sites for development and in 20 years time it will all be too late. Morgan Sindall dont care what they do, they're based in London! BBC handover a site - dozens of flats go up - bang - £1million extra in council tax within five years, and to hell with the rest of the town! All completely legal and above board. They only power bigger than the council is the local MP and then the government. Errr... where is he again? Branksome snail
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