Winton chief set to appeal against points penalty

WINTON secretary Brian Dobson has vowed to appeal the club’s 50-point penalty in the Dorset Funeral Plan Premier League – a deduction that leaves the newcomers staring relegation in the face.

The Dorset Cricket Board imposed the sanction as Winton do not have two youth teams competing between under-nine and under-15 level, but Dobson says that the club does have youth teams and that the rules do not state they have to play in league competition.

Dobson said: “We have an under-16 team but there is no under-16 league. The rules said that the requirements were between under-11 and under-16 at the start of the season but they have been amended.

“We do have two youth teams but they are not ready to play competitive cricket – we need to develop and I don’t believe it is safe to do so without the lads learning the proper drills. We don’t want to expose them to risk so we’re making sure they compete safely next year.

“The rules state that we have to have two youth teams, not that they have to play competitively.

“I don’t understand the 50-point penalty – we are either in breach of the rules, which means we should be relegated, or we’re not and there is no sanction. I have contacted the board and we’re awaiting a response.”

Some of Winton’s players had considered boycotting the competition over the decision, but in the end they decided to play on, registering a 61-run win over Weymouth with an impressive display.

Dobson added: “We did have an issue at the weekend but the boys came round. I can understand it, though. You’ve got people who are very competitive and they want to stay up or get relegated on merit – thankfully the lads came round and played very well.”

Rule 1 of Appendix A states: “A Premier League club must run at least two youth teams at ages between under-nine and under-15.”

John Ridout of the Dorset Cricket Board said: “Quite simply, the conditions set for promotion weren’t followed up. The 50-point penalty (rather than automatic relegation) recognises that Winton have made progress.”

In response to the rules not stating youth teams had to compete, Ridout added: “Brian (Dobson) was at the meeting in October where he understood and accepted what was required.”

Winton play at relegation rivals Stalbridge next weekend, a match that will take on greater significance if their appeal is successful.

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12:47pm Tue 14 Aug 12

bogtrotter says...

What a pathetic rule anyway. The way to make cricket competitive is to have the best teams in the highest leagues. If they were promoted on merit then who cares how many youth teams theuy have. Bear in mind a decent under 16 will play in a senior team anyway.
What a pathetic rule anyway. The way to make cricket competitive is to have the best teams in the highest leagues. If they were promoted on merit then who cares how many youth teams theuy have. Bear in mind a decent under 16 will play in a senior team anyway. bogtrotter

11:12am Wed 15 Aug 12

Square Old Codger says...

I can understand both points of view, the best teams should be playing at the highest level. Equally, I understand the DCA's point of view, with Cricket played so little at Schools whese days and the Governments latest policy for Sport in Schools actually mitigating against "team sports" it is essential to encourage youngsters to play the game or it will die. But, setting up a Youth System takes time, facilities and Coaches etc have to be found and the youngsters recruited ( and that isn't easy ) . There should be some "common sense" here - the Club has said that they have set up Youth Teams - but that the players aren't ready yet to play competitive cricket - surely they should be given - say two Seasons to demonstrate tht they are doing their best to comply with the Leagues requirements.
I can understand both points of view, the best teams should be playing at the highest level. Equally, I understand the DCA's point of view, with Cricket played so little at Schools whese days and the Governments latest policy for Sport in Schools actually mitigating against "team sports" it is essential to encourage youngsters to play the game or it will die. But, setting up a Youth System takes time, facilities and Coaches etc have to be found and the youngsters recruited ( and that isn't easy ) . There should be some "common sense" here - the Club has said that they have set up Youth Teams - but that the players aren't ready yet to play competitive cricket - surely they should be given - say two Seasons to demonstrate tht they are doing their best to comply with the Leagues requirements. Square Old Codger

12:32pm Thu 16 Aug 12

bogtrotter says...

Totally agree, there is another issue as well. I played under 14 cricket from the age of 9 and continued playing youth cricket up to 16 years old. For this you need people at the club who have the time and are willing to spend the time running these outfits, also supportive parents. They can't hold a club to this ransom as it's not as easy as it looks.
Totally agree, there is another issue as well. I played under 14 cricket from the age of 9 and continued playing youth cricket up to 16 years old. For this you need people at the club who have the time and are willing to spend the time running these outfits, also supportive parents. They can't hold a club to this ransom as it's not as easy as it looks. bogtrotter

1:29pm Thu 16 Aug 12

hammer83 says...

From what it looks like the league just don't want them in the league. First they banned them because they didn't like their pitch. Then they relegated them for 2013 because they don't have clubmark and now they come up with a random number of 50 points deduction which is not even in the rules and just shows the true nature of this attack upon the club. They once had more youth teams than most clubs in the Dorset Premier league which is why they are probably able to run 3 teams on saturdays and 3 on sundays.
Their secretary should go straight to the ECB.
Again another ex-Bournemouth league club is being forced out of the Dorset leagues. No wonder the standard below Parley and Poole is so weak.
From what it looks like the league just don't want them in the league. First they banned them because they didn't like their pitch. Then they relegated them for 2013 because they don't have clubmark and now they come up with a random number of 50 points deduction which is not even in the rules and just shows the true nature of this attack upon the club. They once had more youth teams than most clubs in the Dorset Premier league which is why they are probably able to run 3 teams on saturdays and 3 on sundays. Their secretary should go straight to the ECB. Again another ex-Bournemouth league club is being forced out of the Dorset leagues. No wonder the standard below Parley and Poole is so weak. hammer83

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