AFC Bournemouth: Criticism is an inspiration says Tokelo Rantie

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STRAIGHT-TALKING Tokelo Rantie vowed to take inspiration from his critics after admitting he had struggled to adapt to the complexities of the English game.

Rantie’s record-breaking switch to Cherries from Swedish club Malmo, reportedly worth in excess of £2million, has been questioned by sections of the Dean Court crowd on the back of one goal in 12 Championship outings.

But the South Africa international insisted he was “way too strong” to “let it destroy” him before explaining the “opportunity to know every aspect of the game” in England had proved “a little distraction” to his goalscoring exploits.

In an exclusive interview with the Daily Echo, Rantie lifted the lid on his “struggle” to adjust before reaffirming his belief that the thorough nature of pre-match preparations would improve his game.

Rantie told the Daily Echo: “Sometimes you can tell when you have played badly. People come to you and say you played well but I believe people need to be honest with me.

“It would be nice if people were honest and set the record straight so I can rectify my mistakes. That is the only way I can develop and grow as a player.

“I am way too strong to let it (criticism) destroy me. I don’t know where I get it from but I don’t get affected by anything.

“People might think I am arrogant but I don’t have it in me to feel sorry or ashamed for myself when I do these things (play badly), I just always want to try to get better and better.”

Rantie is no stranger to playing abroad after an initial stint in Sweden with IFK Hassleholm was followed by representing South African giants Orlando Pirates and then Malmo.

However, the Bafana Bafana star revealed he had never experienced the intensity of Cherries’ training schedule and pledged to become a better player under Eddie Howe’s tutelage.

Rantie continued: “It has been a struggle and it is strange because I didn’t struggle anywhere else, things just turned out for me, but this is the first team where we have worked on different aspects of the game.

“Everywhere else, we just trained how we were going to play at the weekend, but here they focus on defensive things, attacking things and tactical things.

“Because I have always wanted to learn from a young age, there is a little distraction there.

“There is so much information to absorb and everything has come so fast. I never had the chance to learn these things before.

“It’s a whole new set up, a whole new venture but it will help me going forward.”

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6:45am Tue 10 Dec 13

North stand badger says...

There is no criticism from the real fans, we can see what you are capable of and we just need to get the ball to you more often on the deck in danger areas and your speed and quick feet will cause problems to our opponents.
There is no criticism from the real fans, we can see what you are capable of and we just need to get the ball to you more often on the deck in danger areas and your speed and quick feet will cause problems to our opponents. North stand badger

7:23am Tue 10 Dec 13

Talkingheadera says...

First touch sometimes let's him down and he can be too static waiting for the ball instead of making diagonal runs and dragging defenders away from the danger areas.
First touch sometimes let's him down and he can be too static waiting for the ball instead of making diagonal runs and dragging defenders away from the danger areas. Talkingheadera

7:42am Tue 10 Dec 13

nickynoodah says...

Straight talking Rantie
isn't any good
full stop.
Straight talking Rantie isn't any good full stop. nickynoodah

8:04am Tue 10 Dec 13

Afcbpete says...

North stand badger wrote:
There is no criticism from the real fans, we can see what you are capable of and we just need to get the ball to you more often on the deck in danger areas and your speed and quick feet will cause problems to our opponents.
On MOTD someone was pointing out how Van Persie was having to go running around to find the ball, because it wasn't coming to him in the right areas. I thought, blimey, had they seen what Tokelo has to do to get a pass. We have some VERY short sighted supporters. I agree it's a frustration, but they need to look at the wider picture. Good Luck TK, as I for one am not criticising you!!! UTCIAD
[quote][p][bold]North stand badger[/bold] wrote: There is no criticism from the real fans, we can see what you are capable of and we just need to get the ball to you more often on the deck in danger areas and your speed and quick feet will cause problems to our opponents.[/p][/quote]On MOTD someone was pointing out how Van Persie was having to go running around to find the ball, because it wasn't coming to him in the right areas. I thought, blimey, had they seen what Tokelo has to do to get a pass. We have some VERY short sighted supporters. I agree it's a frustration, but they need to look at the wider picture. Good Luck TK, as I for one am not criticising you!!! UTCIAD Afcbpete

8:28am Tue 10 Dec 13

Fanfor45 says...

To be circumspect about Tokelo he is a class player, and what he says is true about the learning process. However, he has struggled when he receives the ball to deliver the goods, but may be so surprised to receive the ball on the ground that he doesn't quite know what to do with it when he gets it!! The games I seen so far this season both home and away he has mainly received the ball dropping onto him from altitude accompanied by a burly defender that stands 12 inches above him that easily beats him to it. Therefore I can understand he is not looking as effective as he should be if the team are not playing to his strengths. Presently I would continue with Grabban in front of Ritchie and see if that bears fruit over the X'mas time. After all, class player or not Rantie shouldn't make his way into a winning side unless through injury.

On a complete aside: Does anyone where Stephane Zubar ended up?
To be circumspect about Tokelo he is a class player, and what he says is true about the learning process. However, he has struggled when he receives the ball to deliver the goods, but may be so surprised to receive the ball on the ground that he doesn't quite know what to do with it when he gets it!! The games I seen so far this season both home and away he has mainly received the ball dropping onto him from altitude accompanied by a burly defender that stands 12 inches above him that easily beats him to it. Therefore I can understand he is not looking as effective as he should be if the team are not playing to his strengths. Presently I would continue with Grabban in front of Ritchie and see if that bears fruit over the X'mas time. After all, class player or not Rantie shouldn't make his way into a winning side unless through injury. On a complete aside: Does anyone where Stephane Zubar ended up? Fanfor45

8:30am Tue 10 Dec 13

afcbtintin says...

Afcbpete wrote:
North stand badger wrote:
There is no criticism from the real fans, we can see what you are capable of and we just need to get the ball to you more often on the deck in danger areas and your speed and quick feet will cause problems to our opponents.
On MOTD someone was pointing out how Van Persie was having to go running around to find the ball, because it wasn't coming to him in the right areas. I thought, blimey, had they seen what Tokelo has to do to get a pass. We have some VERY short sighted supporters. I agree it's a frustration, but they need to look at the wider picture. Good Luck TK, as I for one am not criticising you!!! UTCIAD
Completely agree. The criticisms that matter are the ones that point out he's playing the way he is at the moment because he isn't getting the service that his game needs.

Short sighted fans expect him to get on the end of crosses flying over at twice his height.

As much as I was in awe of how we played on Saturday, I felt his pace in the 2nd half would have torn the Royals defence apart !

UTCIAD
[quote][p][bold]Afcbpete[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]North stand badger[/bold] wrote: There is no criticism from the real fans, we can see what you are capable of and we just need to get the ball to you more often on the deck in danger areas and your speed and quick feet will cause problems to our opponents.[/p][/quote]On MOTD someone was pointing out how Van Persie was having to go running around to find the ball, because it wasn't coming to him in the right areas. I thought, blimey, had they seen what Tokelo has to do to get a pass. We have some VERY short sighted supporters. I agree it's a frustration, but they need to look at the wider picture. Good Luck TK, as I for one am not criticising you!!! UTCIAD[/p][/quote]Completely agree. The criticisms that matter are the ones that point out he's playing the way he is at the moment because he isn't getting the service that his game needs. Short sighted fans expect him to get on the end of crosses flying over at twice his height. As much as I was in awe of how we played on Saturday, I felt his pace in the 2nd half would have torn the Royals defence apart ! UTCIAD afcbtintin

8:31am Tue 10 Dec 13

susi.m says...

The supporters who watched games every week can see your strengths and also see where improvements can be made. I trust Eddies judgement, so if he sees your potential, then I trust his judgement. Your efforts will pay off TK, I am sure.
The supporters who watched games every week can see your strengths and also see where improvements can be made. I trust Eddies judgement, so if he sees your potential, then I trust his judgement. Your efforts will pay off TK, I am sure. susi.m

8:48am Tue 10 Dec 13

mark.s says...

If any of us starting working in Sweden tomorrow, I'm sure we'd all struggle and need time to get near what we were capable of. TK clearly has talent and ability by the bundle load.

Unfortunately the width that we play with probably doesn't suit him, Pugh's high crosses for example are useless for TK. I's not just up to TK to settle in, it's up to the midfield to find the right balance of supply, to mix it up.
If any of us starting working in Sweden tomorrow, I'm sure we'd all struggle and need time to get near what we were capable of. TK clearly has talent and ability by the bundle load. Unfortunately the width that we play with probably doesn't suit him, Pugh's high crosses for example are useless for TK. I's not just up to TK to settle in, it's up to the midfield to find the right balance of supply, to mix it up. mark.s

8:51am Tue 10 Dec 13

kentcherry says...

I am sure that he learned a lot from watching Lewis Grabban play against Reading. TK is a very raw talent but has a great opportunity to become a star player under the tutelage of Ed and Jason.
I am sure that he learned a lot from watching Lewis Grabban play against Reading. TK is a very raw talent but has a great opportunity to become a star player under the tutelage of Ed and Jason. kentcherry

8:54am Tue 10 Dec 13

Les_Mahagow says...

nickynoodah wrote:
Straight talking Rantie isn't any good full stop.
LOL.............. nickynoodah.........
......do one Numpty
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Straight talking Rantie isn't any good full stop.[/p][/quote]LOL.............. nickynoodah......... ......do one Numpty Les_Mahagow

8:56am Tue 10 Dec 13

Les_Mahagow says...

Oxbig's quiet
Oxbig's quiet Les_Mahagow

9:28am Tue 10 Dec 13

VeronikaJolova says...

The children who come on here have no idea about Football or the workings of it these days ! How many times was he watched ??????? I mean live ?? Not on Utube or sent DVDs by an agent !,. He has his pension and he is is still doing it for his Mum lol .. Go and pay his wages Children :-)
The children who come on here have no idea about Football or the workings of it these days ! How many times was he watched ??????? I mean live ?? Not on Utube or sent DVDs by an agent !,. He has his pension and he is is still doing it for his Mum lol .. Go and pay his wages Children :-) VeronikaJolova

9:33am Tue 10 Dec 13

North stand badger says...

VeronikaJolova wrote:
The children who come on here have no idea about Football or the workings of it these days ! How many times was he watched ??????? I mean live ?? Not on Utube or sent DVDs by an agent !,. He has his pension and he is is still doing it for his Mum lol .. Go and pay his wages Children :-)
Typical armchair football supporter who thinks he knows more than everyone else including the Manager and its all black and white. Well you dont' and it isnt.
[quote][p][bold]VeronikaJolova[/bold] wrote: The children who come on here have no idea about Football or the workings of it these days ! How many times was he watched ??????? I mean live ?? Not on Utube or sent DVDs by an agent !,. He has his pension and he is is still doing it for his Mum lol .. Go and pay his wages Children :-)[/p][/quote]Typical armchair football supporter who thinks he knows more than everyone else including the Manager and its all black and white. Well you dont' and it isnt. North stand badger

9:40am Tue 10 Dec 13

STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road says...

As good as the result was on saturday it must be pointed out that we were set up to play quick counter-attack football. I dont think Eddie will deploy those tactics every game, particulary when we play at home and the onus is on us to attack.
Eddie will find a pattern of play that suits TK and another strike partner in a 4-4-2 formation but it's a fine balancing act to get right. Although not prolific, i definately see goals in the lad but as stated already it will take time to addapt. All strikers play on confidence and go through bad patches, encourage the lad insread of groaning when things dont quite come off.!!!
As good as the result was on saturday it must be pointed out that we were set up to play quick counter-attack football. I dont think Eddie will deploy those tactics every game, particulary when we play at home and the onus is on us to attack. Eddie will find a pattern of play that suits TK and another strike partner in a 4-4-2 formation but it's a fine balancing act to get right. Although not prolific, i definately see goals in the lad but as stated already it will take time to addapt. All strikers play on confidence and go through bad patches, encourage the lad insread of groaning when things dont quite come off.!!! STEADY EDDIE 1 for the road

9:42am Tue 10 Dec 13

CourtOffside says...

Fanfor45 wrote:
To be circumspect about Tokelo he is a class player, and what he says is true about the learning process. However, he has struggled when he receives the ball to deliver the goods, but may be so surprised to receive the ball on the ground that he doesn't quite know what to do with it when he gets it!! The games I seen so far this season both home and away he has mainly received the ball dropping onto him from altitude accompanied by a burly defender that stands 12 inches above him that easily beats him to it. Therefore I can understand he is not looking as effective as he should be if the team are not playing to his strengths. Presently I would continue with Grabban in front of Ritchie and see if that bears fruit over the X'mas time. After all, class player or not Rantie shouldn't make his way into a winning side unless through injury.

On a complete aside: Does anyone where Stephane Zubar ended up?
Zubar tore his cruciate ligament. He's still an AFCB player pending a recovery from that injury...
[quote][p][bold]Fanfor45[/bold] wrote: To be circumspect about Tokelo he is a class player, and what he says is true about the learning process. However, he has struggled when he receives the ball to deliver the goods, but may be so surprised to receive the ball on the ground that he doesn't quite know what to do with it when he gets it!! The games I seen so far this season both home and away he has mainly received the ball dropping onto him from altitude accompanied by a burly defender that stands 12 inches above him that easily beats him to it. Therefore I can understand he is not looking as effective as he should be if the team are not playing to his strengths. Presently I would continue with Grabban in front of Ritchie and see if that bears fruit over the X'mas time. After all, class player or not Rantie shouldn't make his way into a winning side unless through injury. On a complete aside: Does anyone where Stephane Zubar ended up?[/p][/quote]Zubar tore his cruciate ligament. He's still an AFCB player pending a recovery from that injury... CourtOffside

9:42am Tue 10 Dec 13

smhinto says...

Fanfor45 wrote:
To be circumspect about Tokelo he is a class player, and what he says is true about the learning process. However, he has struggled when he receives the ball to deliver the goods, but may be so surprised to receive the ball on the ground that he doesn't quite know what to do with it when he gets it!! The games I seen so far this season both home and away he has mainly received the ball dropping onto him from altitude accompanied by a burly defender that stands 12 inches above him that easily beats him to it. Therefore I can understand he is not looking as effective as he should be if the team are not playing to his strengths. Presently I would continue with Grabban in front of Ritchie and see if that bears fruit over the X'mas time. After all, class player or not Rantie shouldn't make his way into a winning side unless through injury. On a complete aside: Does anyone where Stephane Zubar ended up?
I believe that Zubar is still at the club and is currently injured. He will probably just ride his contract out. He was on loan at Bury last season and got injured. A permanent move there did not matetrialise due to his wage demands etc.
.
Regards
[quote][p][bold]Fanfor45[/bold] wrote: To be circumspect about Tokelo he is a class player, and what he says is true about the learning process. However, he has struggled when he receives the ball to deliver the goods, but may be so surprised to receive the ball on the ground that he doesn't quite know what to do with it when he gets it!! The games I seen so far this season both home and away he has mainly received the ball dropping onto him from altitude accompanied by a burly defender that stands 12 inches above him that easily beats him to it. Therefore I can understand he is not looking as effective as he should be if the team are not playing to his strengths. Presently I would continue with Grabban in front of Ritchie and see if that bears fruit over the X'mas time. After all, class player or not Rantie shouldn't make his way into a winning side unless through injury. On a complete aside: Does anyone where Stephane Zubar ended up?[/p][/quote]I believe that Zubar is still at the club and is currently injured. He will probably just ride his contract out. He was on loan at Bury last season and got injured. A permanent move there did not matetrialise due to his wage demands etc. . Regards smhinto

10:43am Tue 10 Dec 13

devon fan says...

stick with Tokelo, even Ted McDougal had a bad start with us but once he stare to score he never looked back
stick with Tokelo, even Ted McDougal had a bad start with us but once he stare to score he never looked back devon fan

11:12am Tue 10 Dec 13

bmb says...

You just keep plugging away TK. We can all see you are a quality player and have seen the glimpses of brilliance there just waiting to be unleashed. Give 100% every game & the fans will stick with you, mistakes and all.
You just keep plugging away TK. We can all see you are a quality player and have seen the glimpses of brilliance there just waiting to be unleashed. Give 100% every game & the fans will stick with you, mistakes and all. bmb

11:16am Tue 10 Dec 13

Square Old Codger says...

He has the right attitude and the will and determination to improve and suceed, good luck to him, he's at the right place and had the Manager to help him become a better player and to make full use of his undoubted talent. For those wanting to get into the "Christmas spirit" it's the Club's Carol Service tonight at Dean Court at 18.30 and it's free ,there will be a collection for two very worth while charities , with donations for local Food Banks accepted at the gates. The Players and their families will be in the Stands - it's a very good nights entertainment.
He has the right attitude and the will and determination to improve and suceed, good luck to him, he's at the right place and had the Manager to help him become a better player and to make full use of his undoubted talent. For those wanting to get into the "Christmas spirit" it's the Club's Carol Service tonight at Dean Court at 18.30 and it's free ,there will be a collection for two very worth while charities , with donations for local Food Banks accepted at the gates. The Players and their families will be in the Stands - it's a very good nights entertainment. Square Old Codger

11:21am Tue 10 Dec 13

bobsworthforever says...

Ranties a luxury we just cant afford at the moment send him out on loan hes not up to Championship football at the moment. one of the reasons we played so well at Reading was we looked really dangerous up front surely we cant change a winning formula for a striker whos scored once in 15 games..I agree with the comments who say he as great potential but not at the moment
Ranties a luxury we just cant afford at the moment send him out on loan hes not up to Championship football at the moment. one of the reasons we played so well at Reading was we looked really dangerous up front surely we cant change a winning formula for a striker whos scored once in 15 games..I agree with the comments who say he as great potential but not at the moment bobsworthforever

12:18pm Tue 10 Dec 13

ben611 says...

I am a strong Eddie Howe fan but sorry eddie you got this very wrong TK is no where near worth 2.5 million! Could have got Ings and Vokes for that and still have money left over for Beckford too! Watching him up front is like a child playing in the adult league not big enough an too lightweight
I am a strong Eddie Howe fan but sorry eddie you got this very wrong TK is no where near worth 2.5 million! Could have got Ings and Vokes for that and still have money left over for Beckford too! Watching him up front is like a child playing in the adult league not big enough an too lightweight ben611

12:19pm Tue 10 Dec 13

ben611 says...

ben611 wrote:
I am a strong Eddie Howe fan but sorry eddie you got this very wrong TK is no where near worth 2.5 million! Could have got Ings and Vokes for that and still have money left over for Beckford too! Watching him up front is like a child playing in the adult league not big enough an too lightweight
1 goal in 12 not good enough for that money he was brought in to score goals
[quote][p][bold]ben611[/bold] wrote: I am a strong Eddie Howe fan but sorry eddie you got this very wrong TK is no where near worth 2.5 million! Could have got Ings and Vokes for that and still have money left over for Beckford too! Watching him up front is like a child playing in the adult league not big enough an too lightweight[/p][/quote]1 goal in 12 not good enough for that money he was brought in to score goals ben611

12:20pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Cherrybear86 says...

Shouldn't be playing up top on his own !! Hopefully on Saturday Eddie plays grabban and TK up top then you will see what he can do . Away from home our style of play doesn't suit him but in a attacking 442 at home he will tear defenses apart
Shouldn't be playing up top on his own !! Hopefully on Saturday Eddie plays grabban and TK up top then you will see what he can do . Away from home our style of play doesn't suit him but in a attacking 442 at home he will tear defenses apart Cherrybear86

12:21pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Mike Oxbig says...

VeronikaJolova wrote:
The children who come on here have no idea about Football or the workings of it these days ! How many times was he watched ??????? I mean live ?? Not on Utube or sent DVDs by an agent !,. He has his pension and he is is still doing it for his Mum lol .. Go and pay his wages Children :-)
Right on. It was Fletcher that scouted him, so the buck stops with him. Regards.
[quote][p][bold]VeronikaJolova[/bold] wrote: The children who come on here have no idea about Football or the workings of it these days ! How many times was he watched ??????? I mean live ?? Not on Utube or sent DVDs by an agent !,. He has his pension and he is is still doing it for his Mum lol .. Go and pay his wages Children :-)[/p][/quote]Right on. It was Fletcher that scouted him, so the buck stops with him. Regards. Mike Oxbig

1:32pm Tue 10 Dec 13

balsallcherry says...

ben611 wrote:
ben611 wrote:
I am a strong Eddie Howe fan but sorry eddie you got this very wrong TK is no where near worth 2.5 million! Could have got Ings and Vokes for that and still have money left over for Beckford too! Watching him up front is like a child playing in the adult league not big enough an too lightweight
1 goal in 12 not good enough for that money he was brought in to score goals
We tried to get Ings (and Vokes?) but were scuppered by Charlie Austin going to QPR. His first touch is capable of taking out his marker as he did at Burnley. If we play to his feet he has plenty of potential. He also has an unflappable attitude and refreshing honesty (as seen in this 'bare it all' article). Too soon to judge him when he has joined a squad full of players gettng used to a big step up in technical capability and quality themselves. The Championship is a tough place to learn about English football but it is far more enjoyable than the lower leagues. I for one am enjoying the ride - ahead of schedule, learning every week, realistic about our first sason back at this level and remaining positive whatever the result. UTC. Best of luck TK.
[quote][p][bold]ben611[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ben611[/bold] wrote: I am a strong Eddie Howe fan but sorry eddie you got this very wrong TK is no where near worth 2.5 million! Could have got Ings and Vokes for that and still have money left over for Beckford too! Watching him up front is like a child playing in the adult league not big enough an too lightweight[/p][/quote]1 goal in 12 not good enough for that money he was brought in to score goals[/p][/quote]We tried to get Ings (and Vokes?) but were scuppered by Charlie Austin going to QPR. His first touch is capable of taking out his marker as he did at Burnley. If we play to his feet he has plenty of potential. He also has an unflappable attitude and refreshing honesty (as seen in this 'bare it all' article). Too soon to judge him when he has joined a squad full of players gettng used to a big step up in technical capability and quality themselves. The Championship is a tough place to learn about English football but it is far more enjoyable than the lower leagues. I for one am enjoying the ride - ahead of schedule, learning every week, realistic about our first sason back at this level and remaining positive whatever the result. UTC. Best of luck TK. balsallcherry

3:08pm Tue 10 Dec 13

devon fan says...

just to change the subject I see on the QPR website that AFCB reserves won 1-0 away this morning, no team news for AFCB but 10 players with 1st team experience in the QPR lineup, I do wonder why our own club website takes so long to bring us results from any other game than the 1st team
just to change the subject I see on the QPR website that AFCB reserves won 1-0 away this morning, no team news for AFCB but 10 players with 1st team experience in the QPR lineup, I do wonder why our own club website takes so long to bring us results from any other game than the 1st team devon fan

3:10pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Afcbives says...

Just needs to look up and shoot and pass the ball round apart from that he's a great striker
Just needs to look up and shoot and pass the ball round apart from that he's a great striker Afcbives

3:18pm Tue 10 Dec 13

canfordcherry says...

I say drop Tokelo back as an attacking midfielder, play the ball though onto his run and to his feet. His pace will lose his marker, win free kicks, get the last defender sent off now and again and lead to what we all want, goals.
I say drop Tokelo back as an attacking midfielder, play the ball though onto his run and to his feet. His pace will lose his marker, win free kicks, get the last defender sent off now and again and lead to what we all want, goals. canfordcherry

3:36pm Tue 10 Dec 13

big_afcb_fan says...

all the hype around rantie when he joined! now this. we need a target man quickly!
all the hype around rantie when he joined! now this. we need a target man quickly! big_afcb_fan

3:46pm Tue 10 Dec 13

mark.s says...

We do have some drama queens these days don't we?!
We do have some drama queens these days don't we?! mark.s

4:16pm Tue 10 Dec 13

kangman2012 says...

canfordcherry wrote:
I say drop Tokelo back as an attacking midfielder, play the ball though onto his run and to his feet. His pace will lose his marker, win free kicks, get the last defender sent off now and again and lead to what we all want, goals.
Not a bad idea "canfordcherry" - I could just imagine TK playing "in the hole" behind Grabban and Thomas/Pitman. Three of those four up front would cause any defence no end of problems - looking forward to Saturday - UTC!
[quote][p][bold]canfordcherry[/bold] wrote: I say drop Tokelo back as an attacking midfielder, play the ball though onto his run and to his feet. His pace will lose his marker, win free kicks, get the last defender sent off now and again and lead to what we all want, goals.[/p][/quote]Not a bad idea "canfordcherry" - I could just imagine TK playing "in the hole" behind Grabban and Thomas/Pitman. Three of those four up front would cause any defence no end of problems - looking forward to Saturday - UTC! kangman2012

4:28pm Tue 10 Dec 13

a real supporter says...

I see the AFCB website is advertising a February food festival. How about improving the matchday facilities first. Why for example does it still takes 15 mins at half time to get food and drink. On the Brighton mid-day kick off hot food wasn’t available until 10 mins before kick off! The staff seem to have no direction. We must lose lots of money because supporters can’t be bothered to queue.
I see the AFCB website is advertising a February food festival. How about improving the matchday facilities first. Why for example does it still takes 15 mins at half time to get food and drink. On the Brighton mid-day kick off hot food wasn’t available until 10 mins before kick off! The staff seem to have no direction. We must lose lots of money because supporters can’t be bothered to queue. a real supporter

5:43pm Tue 10 Dec 13

canfordcherry says...

a real supporter wrote:
I see the AFCB website is advertising a February food festival. How about improving the matchday facilities first. Why for example does it still takes 15 mins at half time to get food and drink. On the Brighton mid-day kick off hot food wasn’t available until 10 mins before kick off! The staff seem to have no direction. We must lose lots of money because supporters can’t be bothered to queue.
Totally agree re half time, you almost have to miss the last 5 mins to be sure of making the start of the second half in the concourse under the main stand. What would you do to remove the queues? The only option I can think of is doubling the till points (a lest for the busy periods) and having more 'wheelie' hot food venders who appear at half time to reduce the amount of people heading under. The only worry would be producing too much food for the assembled crowd and losing money due to waste.
[quote][p][bold]a real supporter[/bold] wrote: I see the AFCB website is advertising a February food festival. How about improving the matchday facilities first. Why for example does it still takes 15 mins at half time to get food and drink. On the Brighton mid-day kick off hot food wasn’t available until 10 mins before kick off! The staff seem to have no direction. We must lose lots of money because supporters can’t be bothered to queue.[/p][/quote]Totally agree re half time, you almost have to miss the last 5 mins to be sure of making the start of the second half in the concourse under the main stand. What would you do to remove the queues? The only option I can think of is doubling the till points (a lest for the busy periods) and having more 'wheelie' hot food venders who appear at half time to reduce the amount of people heading under. The only worry would be producing too much food for the assembled crowd and losing money due to waste. canfordcherry

5:52pm Tue 10 Dec 13

raybren says...

I think TK will play his part this season , after all it ' s all about squads these days and our squad is going to be vastly improved come January , there are going to be some big money signings .
I think TK will play his part this season , after all it ' s all about squads these days and our squad is going to be vastly improved come January , there are going to be some big money signings . raybren

6:14pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Nat1234 says...

ben611 wrote:
ben611 wrote:
I am a strong Eddie Howe fan but sorry eddie you got this very wrong TK is no where near worth 2.5 million! Could have got Ings and Vokes for that and still have money left over for Beckford too! Watching him up front is like a child playing in the adult league not big enough an too lightweight
1 goal in 12 not good enough for that money he was brought in to score goals
I
[quote][p][bold]ben611[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ben611[/bold] wrote: I am a strong Eddie Howe fan but sorry eddie you got this very wrong TK is no where near worth 2.5 million! Could have got Ings and Vokes for that and still have money left over for Beckford too! Watching him up front is like a child playing in the adult league not big enough an too lightweight[/p][/quote]1 goal in 12 not good enough for that money he was brought in to score goals[/p][/quote]I Nat1234

6:17pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Nat1234 says...

Nat1234 wrote:
ben611 wrote:
ben611 wrote:
I am a strong Eddie Howe fan but sorry eddie you got this very wrong TK is no where near worth 2.5 million! Could have got Ings and Vokes for that and still have money left over for Beckford too! Watching him up front is like a child playing in the adult league not big enough an too lightweight
1 goal in 12 not good enough for that money he was brought in to score goals
I
It's not only lack of goals ,it's lack of shots , can't remember him having more than 2 shots in a game . Eddie has made a very bad choice in rantie , I think we should cut our losses and ship him out , and please take pitman with him
[quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ben611[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ben611[/bold] wrote: I am a strong Eddie Howe fan but sorry eddie you got this very wrong TK is no where near worth 2.5 million! Could have got Ings and Vokes for that and still have money left over for Beckford too! Watching him up front is like a child playing in the adult league not big enough an too lightweight[/p][/quote]1 goal in 12 not good enough for that money he was brought in to score goals[/p][/quote]I[/p][/quote]It's not only lack of goals ,it's lack of shots , can't remember him having more than 2 shots in a game . Eddie has made a very bad choice in rantie , I think we should cut our losses and ship him out , and please take pitman with him Nat1234

6:42pm Tue 10 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

Nat1234 wrote:
Nat1234 wrote:
ben611 wrote:
ben611 wrote:
I am a strong Eddie Howe fan but sorry eddie you got this very wrong TK is no where near worth 2.5 million! Could have got Ings and Vokes for that and still have money left over for Beckford too! Watching him up front is like a child playing in the adult league not big enough an too lightweight
1 goal in 12 not good enough for that money he was brought in to score goals
I
It's not only lack of goals ,it's lack of shots , can't remember him having more than 2 shots in a game . Eddie has made a very bad choice in rantie , I think we should cut our losses and ship him out , and please take pitman with him
Are you of the female gender? thought so ....
Give TK a chance. he has only been here 5 mins.
[quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ben611[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ben611[/bold] wrote: I am a strong Eddie Howe fan but sorry eddie you got this very wrong TK is no where near worth 2.5 million! Could have got Ings and Vokes for that and still have money left over for Beckford too! Watching him up front is like a child playing in the adult league not big enough an too lightweight[/p][/quote]1 goal in 12 not good enough for that money he was brought in to score goals[/p][/quote]I[/p][/quote]It's not only lack of goals ,it's lack of shots , can't remember him having more than 2 shots in a game . Eddie has made a very bad choice in rantie , I think we should cut our losses and ship him out , and please take pitman with him[/p][/quote]Are you of the female gender? thought so .... Give TK a chance. he has only been here 5 mins. holdinkæft

7:10pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Nat1234 says...

holdinkæft wrote:
Nat1234 wrote:
Nat1234 wrote:
ben611 wrote:
ben611 wrote:
I am a strong Eddie Howe fan but sorry eddie you got this very wrong TK is no where near worth 2.5 million! Could have got Ings and Vokes for that and still have money left over for Beckford too! Watching him up front is like a child playing in the adult league not big enough an too lightweight
1 goal in 12 not good enough for that money he was brought in to score goals
I
It's not only lack of goals ,it's lack of shots , can't remember him having more than 2 shots in a game . Eddie has made a very bad choice in rantie , I think we should cut our losses and ship him out , and please take pitman with him
Are you of the female gender? thought so ....
Give TK a chance. he has only been here 5 mins.
5 mins , 12 games more like . Tubbs after 12 games scored more than 1 . Ritchie 12 games scored more than 1 Pugh after 12 games scored more than 1 , do you want me to go on . And remember his price tag . In this division you can't afford to give him any more time . Ship him and Pittman out and get another striker in January .
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ben611[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ben611[/bold] wrote: I am a strong Eddie Howe fan but sorry eddie you got this very wrong TK is no where near worth 2.5 million! Could have got Ings and Vokes for that and still have money left over for Beckford too! Watching him up front is like a child playing in the adult league not big enough an too lightweight[/p][/quote]1 goal in 12 not good enough for that money he was brought in to score goals[/p][/quote]I[/p][/quote]It's not only lack of goals ,it's lack of shots , can't remember him having more than 2 shots in a game . Eddie has made a very bad choice in rantie , I think we should cut our losses and ship him out , and please take pitman with him[/p][/quote]Are you of the female gender? thought so .... Give TK a chance. he has only been here 5 mins.[/p][/quote]5 mins , 12 games more like . Tubbs after 12 games scored more than 1 . Ritchie 12 games scored more than 1 Pugh after 12 games scored more than 1 , do you want me to go on . And remember his price tag . In this division you can't afford to give him any more time . Ship him and Pittman out and get another striker in January . Nat1234

7:15pm Tue 10 Dec 13

West moors 1 says...

It's early days but at the moment he seems lightweight and his decision making is not the best. He's only been in English football a short while but football is all about instant results today. Fingers crossed he won't turn out to be a pup.
It's early days but at the moment he seems lightweight and his decision making is not the best. He's only been in English football a short while but football is all about instant results today. Fingers crossed he won't turn out to be a pup. West moors 1

7:27pm Tue 10 Dec 13

Yorkie Cherry says...

I see AFCB giving a trial to Danny Morrissey a free scoring forward from Cork City.Scored today for the reserves at QPR
I see AFCB giving a trial to Danny Morrissey a free scoring forward from Cork City.Scored today for the reserves at QPR Yorkie Cherry

7:47pm Tue 10 Dec 13

boyerboy says...

Looks light weight, easily dispossessed....too small( I know I know Defoe etc....), obvious Eddie rated him BUT sadly cannot see him cutting it in this division.....seems we have a forward who is now dividing the fan base.............. amazing to think of all the dosh we have spent on various forwards .
Looks light weight, easily dispossessed....too small( I know I know Defoe etc....), obvious Eddie rated him BUT sadly cannot see him cutting it in this division.....seems we have a forward who is now dividing the fan base.............. amazing to think of all the dosh we have spent on various forwards . boyerboy

7:53pm Tue 10 Dec 13

4stands says...

canfordcherry wrote:
a real supporter wrote:
I see the AFCB website is advertising a February food festival. How about improving the matchday facilities first. Why for example does it still takes 15 mins at half time to get food and drink. On the Brighton mid-day kick off hot food wasn’t available until 10 mins before kick off! The staff seem to have no direction. We must lose lots of money because supporters can’t be bothered to queue.
Totally agree re half time, you almost have to miss the last 5 mins to be sure of making the start of the second half in the concourse under the main stand. What would you do to remove the queues? The only option I can think of is doubling the till points (a lest for the busy periods) and having more 'wheelie' hot food venders who appear at half time to reduce the amount of people heading under. The only worry would be producing too much food for the assembled crowd and losing money due to waste.
Yes have to agree - the waiting is ridiculous, service is poor and the food too expensive not good
[quote][p][bold]canfordcherry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]a real supporter[/bold] wrote: I see the AFCB website is advertising a February food festival. How about improving the matchday facilities first. Why for example does it still takes 15 mins at half time to get food and drink. On the Brighton mid-day kick off hot food wasn’t available until 10 mins before kick off! The staff seem to have no direction. We must lose lots of money because supporters can’t be bothered to queue.[/p][/quote]Totally agree re half time, you almost have to miss the last 5 mins to be sure of making the start of the second half in the concourse under the main stand. What would you do to remove the queues? The only option I can think of is doubling the till points (a lest for the busy periods) and having more 'wheelie' hot food venders who appear at half time to reduce the amount of people heading under. The only worry would be producing too much food for the assembled crowd and losing money due to waste.[/p][/quote]Yes have to agree - the waiting is ridiculous, service is poor and the food too expensive not good 4stands

9:13pm Tue 10 Dec 13

holdinkæft says...

4stands wrote:
canfordcherry wrote:
a real supporter wrote:
I see the AFCB website is advertising a February food festival. How about improving the matchday facilities first. Why for example does it still takes 15 mins at half time to get food and drink. On the Brighton mid-day kick off hot food wasn’t available until 10 mins before kick off! The staff seem to have no direction. We must lose lots of money because supporters can’t be bothered to queue.
Totally agree re half time, you almost have to miss the last 5 mins to be sure of making the start of the second half in the concourse under the main stand. What would you do to remove the queues? The only option I can think of is doubling the till points (a lest for the busy periods) and having more 'wheelie' hot food venders who appear at half time to reduce the amount of people heading under. The only worry would be producing too much food for the assembled crowd and losing money due to waste.
Yes have to agree - the waiting is ridiculous, service is poor and the food too expensive not good
Why would you want to buy food at a football match, it only lasts 94 mins.
[quote][p][bold]4stands[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]canfordcherry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]a real supporter[/bold] wrote: I see the AFCB website is advertising a February food festival. How about improving the matchday facilities first. Why for example does it still takes 15 mins at half time to get food and drink. On the Brighton mid-day kick off hot food wasn’t available until 10 mins before kick off! The staff seem to have no direction. We must lose lots of money because supporters can’t be bothered to queue.[/p][/quote]Totally agree re half time, you almost have to miss the last 5 mins to be sure of making the start of the second half in the concourse under the main stand. What would you do to remove the queues? The only option I can think of is doubling the till points (a lest for the busy periods) and having more 'wheelie' hot food venders who appear at half time to reduce the amount of people heading under. The only worry would be producing too much food for the assembled crowd and losing money due to waste.[/p][/quote]Yes have to agree - the waiting is ridiculous, service is poor and the food too expensive not good[/p][/quote]Why would you want to buy food at a football match, it only lasts 94 mins. holdinkæft

9:19pm Tue 10 Dec 13

YafcbY says...

He does need time to settle and frankly it's not going to help with supporters getting on his back. He may have played 12 times but he was signed very late in the transfer window, whilst trying to settle in a new country has had to pop of for international games. And its never going to help when he is expected to engage with crosses twice his height!
He does need time to settle and frankly it's not going to help with supporters getting on his back. He may have played 12 times but he was signed very late in the transfer window, whilst trying to settle in a new country has had to pop of for international games. And its never going to help when he is expected to engage with crosses twice his height! YafcbY

9:28pm Tue 10 Dec 13

ben611 says...

kangman2012 wrote:
canfordcherry wrote:
I say drop Tokelo back as an attacking midfielder, play the ball though onto his run and to his feet. His pace will lose his marker, win free kicks, get the last defender sent off now and again and lead to what we all want, goals.
Not a bad idea "canfordcherry" - I could just imagine TK playing "in the hole" behind Grabban and Thomas/Pitman. Three of those four up front would cause any defence no end of problems - looking forward to Saturday - UTC!
Thomisss? Or pitman who cannot run! Dead wood get rid we need to think championship guys
[quote][p][bold]kangman2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]canfordcherry[/bold] wrote: I say drop Tokelo back as an attacking midfielder, play the ball though onto his run and to his feet. His pace will lose his marker, win free kicks, get the last defender sent off now and again and lead to what we all want, goals.[/p][/quote]Not a bad idea "canfordcherry" - I could just imagine TK playing "in the hole" behind Grabban and Thomas/Pitman. Three of those four up front would cause any defence no end of problems - looking forward to Saturday - UTC![/p][/quote]Thomisss? Or pitman who cannot run! Dead wood get rid we need to think championship guys ben611

9:32pm Tue 10 Dec 13

ben611 says...

Nat1234 wrote:
Nat1234 wrote:
ben611 wrote:
ben611 wrote:
I am a strong Eddie Howe fan but sorry eddie you got this very wrong TK is no where near worth 2.5 million! Could have got Ings and Vokes for that and still have money left over for Beckford too! Watching him up front is like a child playing in the adult league not big enough an too lightweight
1 goal in 12 not good enough for that money he was brought in to score goals
I
It's not only lack of goals ,it's lack of shots , can't remember him having more than 2 shots in a game . Eddie has made a very bad choice in rantie , I think we should cut our losses and ship him out , and please take pitman with him
Well said nat guess your not looking through blurry glasses Thomas pitman stockley tubbs Rantie and bring in proven players
[quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Nat1234[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ben611[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ben611[/bold] wrote: I am a strong Eddie Howe fan but sorry eddie you got this very wrong TK is no where near worth 2.5 million! Could have got Ings and Vokes for that and still have money left over for Beckford too! Watching him up front is like a child playing in the adult league not big enough an too lightweight[/p][/quote]1 goal in 12 not good enough for that money he was brought in to score goals[/p][/quote]I[/p][/quote]It's not only lack of goals ,it's lack of shots , can't remember him having more than 2 shots in a game . Eddie has made a very bad choice in rantie , I think we should cut our losses and ship him out , and please take pitman with him[/p][/quote]Well said nat guess your not looking through blurry glasses Thomas pitman stockley tubbs Rantie and bring in proven players ben611

3:59pm Wed 11 Dec 13

canfordcherry says...

holdinkæft wrote:
4stands wrote:
canfordcherry wrote:
a real supporter wrote:
I see the AFCB website is advertising a February food festival. How about improving the matchday facilities first. Why for example does it still takes 15 mins at half time to get food and drink. On the Brighton mid-day kick off hot food wasn’t available until 10 mins before kick off! The staff seem to have no direction. We must lose lots of money because supporters can’t be bothered to queue.
Totally agree re half time, you almost have to miss the last 5 mins to be sure of making the start of the second half in the concourse under the main stand. What would you do to remove the queues? The only option I can think of is doubling the till points (a lest for the busy periods) and having more 'wheelie' hot food venders who appear at half time to reduce the amount of people heading under. The only worry would be producing too much food for the assembled crowd and losing money due to waste.
Yes have to agree - the waiting is ridiculous, service is poor and the food too expensive not good
Why would you want to buy food at a football match, it only lasts 94 mins.
I personally go straight from my post round so need some thing to tide me over before I get home after the game.
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]4stands[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]canfordcherry[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]a real supporter[/bold] wrote: I see the AFCB website is advertising a February food festival. How about improving the matchday facilities first. Why for example does it still takes 15 mins at half time to get food and drink. On the Brighton mid-day kick off hot food wasn’t available until 10 mins before kick off! The staff seem to have no direction. We must lose lots of money because supporters can’t be bothered to queue.[/p][/quote]Totally agree re half time, you almost have to miss the last 5 mins to be sure of making the start of the second half in the concourse under the main stand. What would you do to remove the queues? The only option I can think of is doubling the till points (a lest for the busy periods) and having more 'wheelie' hot food venders who appear at half time to reduce the amount of people heading under. The only worry would be producing too much food for the assembled crowd and losing money due to waste.[/p][/quote]Yes have to agree - the waiting is ridiculous, service is poor and the food too expensive not good[/p][/quote]Why would you want to buy food at a football match, it only lasts 94 mins.[/p][/quote]I personally go straight from my post round so need some thing to tide me over before I get home after the game. canfordcherry

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