Bournemouth EchoRed Arrows: 'Ghoulish' souvenir hunters must stop (From Bournemouth Echo)

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Throop residents slam souvenir hunters visiting crash site of Red Arrows pilot Jon Egging

Bournemouth Echo: CONCERNED: Throop resident Stephen Young near the impromptu rock shrine which has built up on the banks of the River Stour CONCERNED: Throop resident Stephen Young near the impromptu rock shrine which has built up on the banks of the River Stour

SHOW some respect.

This is the plea to ‘ghoulish’ souvenir hunters who have been trawling the field where the Red Arrows plane crashed.

Residents in Throop are calling for an end to the ‘disrespectful’ behaviour and police say they are investigating reports of people taking scattered debris from the Red 4 jet crash site.

Stephen Young, who lives in the village, says the site close to Throop Mill was awash with hundreds of people over the Bank Holiday weekend searching the field where Flt Lt Jon Egging tragically lost his life.

He said: “I have been left sickened. They were just like ants crawling all over it.

“At one point I counted 35 people all bent down in the field. It is very ghoulish and disrespectful.”

Flt Lt Egging, 33, died when his jet crashed into a field near the River Stour after a final formation manoeuvre near Bournemouth airport on August 20. He had just thrilled the masses on the seafront with a full Red Arrows display as part of Bournemouth Air Festival.

Mr Young said: “This weekend the Mill has been packed with hundreds of people visiting Red 4’s resting place.

“I have seen people clambering all over the fences onto the Malmesbury Estate trying to get a piece of the plane.”

Mr Young said he witnessed one person with a metal detector scouring the field and another even posed for a picture of the items he had found. The picture has now been sent to Bournemouth CID.

“We have had people coming up and asking: where was the body found? Where was the plane found?

“It just sickens me.

“I know a lot of local people have been quite upset with the people coming down and the ghoulish sight-seekers asking stupid questions. It is not on.”

A spokesman for Dorset Police said officers from CID are investigating after receiving a report from a woman on August 25 that she had seen people with metal detectors and shovels at the crash site.

“The warning is anybody found to be taking parts of the aircraft should be aware it is RAF property and they are committing theft,” she said.

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10:13am Wed 31 Aug 11

pete woodley says...

Just how sick can these people get,at the same time does anyone say anything to them or remonstrate,i doubt it.
Just how sick can these people get,at the same time does anyone say anything to them or remonstrate,i doubt it. pete woodley
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10:18am Wed 31 Aug 11

Morrigan says...

I know what you mean Pete Woodley, but in truth, would many of us challenge someone about their behaviour, if they had a shovel/spade in their hand? I doubt it.

People like that have no shame and I have no doubt at all, that some of the "finds" will end up on Ebay .... if they are not there already.
I know what you mean Pete Woodley, but in truth, would many of us challenge someone about their behaviour, if they had a shovel/spade in their hand? I doubt it. People like that have no shame and I have no doubt at all, that some of the "finds" will end up on Ebay .... if they are not there already. Morrigan
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10:28am Wed 31 Aug 11

TinyLegacy says...

Being a Throop resident I can echo this. I've been down to the end of Broadway lane like most of the residents and laid flowers, let that be it.
Being a Throop resident I can echo this. I've been down to the end of Broadway lane like most of the residents and laid flowers, let that be it. TinyLegacy
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10:44am Wed 31 Aug 11

Boredofthiscountry says...

There are always the remnants of society who think this kind of behaviour is acceptable, Makes me feel sick at the thought,
There are always the remnants of society who think this kind of behaviour is acceptable, Makes me feel sick at the thought, Boredofthiscountry
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10:46am Wed 31 Aug 11

Wesoblind says...

What an awful story to run! I walked down there to pay some respects and understand what happened more and i'll tell you what actually standing there brings a tear to your eye (the elderly lady next to us was in tears) but makes you proud once again to be british and have had these heros amognst us. Just to ad if anyone was "souvenir hunting" they have very few braincells to think the MOD would not collect every fragment to do a thorough investigation. if when i was down there i saw anyone siffting for souvenirs i would have let them know my feelings on it!
What an awful story to run! I walked down there to pay some respects and understand what happened more and i'll tell you what actually standing there brings a tear to your eye (the elderly lady next to us was in tears) but makes you proud once again to be british and have had these heros amognst us. Just to ad if anyone was "souvenir hunting" they have very few braincells to think the MOD would not collect every fragment to do a thorough investigation. if when i was down there i saw anyone siffting for souvenirs i would have let them know my feelings on it! Wesoblind
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10:50am Wed 31 Aug 11

saynomore says...

So glad you removed that sick idiots posting,well done Echo.
So glad you removed that sick idiots posting,well done Echo. saynomore
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10:56am Wed 31 Aug 11

onionbag says...

These "types" are in a growing minority in our society. They have no moral code as such and live (or exist) by their own "rules". Are they that far removed from looters ? Yet another example of the decay of standards in this country. P.S. Good to see PW posting again - Best wishes mate, are you still refereeing !! The Fox in Terrace Road still misses you..............
These "types" are in a growing minority in our society. They have no moral code as such and live (or exist) by their own "rules". Are they that far removed from looters ? Yet another example of the decay of standards in this country. P.S. Good to see PW posting again - Best wishes mate, are you still refereeing !! The Fox in Terrace Road still misses you.............. onionbag
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11:18am Wed 31 Aug 11

Huey says...

wrong on every level
wrong on every level Huey
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11:24am Wed 31 Aug 11

poolebabe says...

I don't understand a bit of it. Thankfully there are many more "decent" people than not. They have no conscience or morals.
I don't understand a bit of it. Thankfully there are many more "decent" people than not. They have no conscience or morals. poolebabe
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11:29am Wed 31 Aug 11

TFan says...

Sickening. I can say no more, other than has anyone got a 12-bore and buckshot?
Sickening. I can say no more, other than has anyone got a 12-bore and buckshot? TFan
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11:37am Wed 31 Aug 11

miniminime says...

The dregs of society !
The dregs of society ! miniminime
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11:38am Wed 31 Aug 11

pete woodley says...

onionbag wrote:
These "types" are in a growing minority in our society. They have no moral code as such and live (or exist) by their own "rules". Are they that far removed from looters ? Yet another example of the decay of standards in this country. P.S. Good to see PW posting again - Best wishes mate, are you still refereeing !! The Fox in Terrace Road still misses you..............
Nice to know i was missed,am very pleased to be back,i gave up playing at 60 (now nearly 77),Good article about FOX in tuesdays Echo,those were the days,best wishes to you too and all the old regulars,and ex referees,and players.
[quote][p][bold]onionbag[/bold] wrote: These "types" are in a growing minority in our society. They have no moral code as such and live (or exist) by their own "rules". Are they that far removed from looters ? Yet another example of the decay of standards in this country. P.S. Good to see PW posting again - Best wishes mate, are you still refereeing !! The Fox in Terrace Road still misses you..............[/p][/quote]Nice to know i was missed,am very pleased to be back,i gave up playing at 60 (now nearly 77),Good article about FOX in tuesdays Echo,those were the days,best wishes to you too and all the old regulars,and ex referees,and players. pete woodley
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11:45am Wed 31 Aug 11

Sir Alan says...

does Concerned throop resident stephen young need publicity so much
that this is how he gets it. posing next to the shrine what is that all
about.
Whilst i agree people should not dig up wreckage
many people use the footpath along the river they did so before the tragic accident, and should not feel guilty about doing so after.
i suspect stephen young lives nowhere near the crash site .
i note no one moaned about all the news coverage when it was on the tv .
does Concerned throop resident stephen young need publicity so much that this is how he gets it. posing next to the shrine what is that all about. Whilst i agree people should not dig up wreckage many people use the footpath along the river they did so before the tragic accident, and should not feel guilty about doing so after. i suspect stephen young lives nowhere near the crash site . i note no one moaned about all the news coverage when it was on the tv . Sir Alan
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11:59am Wed 31 Aug 11

Wesoblind says...

well done Sir Alan, stephen young got his souvenir photo, i really think its an awful story blown out of all proportion, i dont doubt there is so sickos out there that tried but when i was down there it was maybe three people leaving flowers and paying respects, if i saw these people with metal detector i would have got a photo to name and shame them!
well done Sir Alan, stephen young got his souvenir photo, i really think its an awful story blown out of all proportion, i dont doubt there is so sickos out there that tried but when i was down there it was maybe three people leaving flowers and paying respects, if i saw these people with metal detector i would have got a photo to name and shame them! Wesoblind
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12:46pm Wed 31 Aug 11

EGHH says...

It is shameful sign of our times I'm afraid. As Bob Dylan once sang "they're selling postcards of the hanging". Modern society only respects greed and wealth.
It is shameful sign of our times I'm afraid. As Bob Dylan once sang "they're selling postcards of the hanging". Modern society only respects greed and wealth. EGHH
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12:52pm Wed 31 Aug 11

orsenound says...

Dear Sir Alan and Wesoblind, I get the impression that you do not live or have to commute or work in the vicinity of Throop, am I right? If you did you would have seen on MANY occasions over the last 10 days or so that the car park at Throop was filled to over capacity, which spilled out onto the road that services the area. Having nearly 30 years of passing the Mill on my journeys, I have never seen so many people at the site.
If you think firstly that it is appropriate for people to trespass and then remove items that are clearly not theirs to remove and trawl over a fatal crash scene, you really should adjust your perspective of this situation.....
It's amazing how so many people are eager to ridicule anyone who is willing to stand up and be counted..... That is why no doubt you are using the anonymity of the internet..well done.
Dear Sir Alan and Wesoblind, I get the impression that you do not live or have to commute or work in the vicinity of Throop, am I right? If you did you would have seen on MANY occasions over the last 10 days or so that the car park at Throop was filled to over capacity, which spilled out onto the road that services the area. Having nearly 30 years of passing the Mill on my journeys, I have never seen so many people at the site. If you think firstly that it is appropriate for people to trespass and then remove items that are clearly not theirs to remove and trawl over a fatal crash scene, you really should adjust your perspective of this situation..... It's amazing how so many people are eager to ridicule anyone who is willing to stand up and be counted..... That is why no doubt you are using the anonymity of the internet..well done. orsenound
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12:55pm Wed 31 Aug 11

hamworthygirl says...

I dont live near throop bu can imagine the feelings of the residents and the gratitude to Jon Egging for his heroic act. It sickened me to read this story and i can honestly say if i saw someone taking anything from the site I would have to tackle them either verbally or physically and would take the consequences to be honest. People are so sick, would love to catch one and charge him with looting or stealing, as thats what it amounts to.
I dont live near throop bu can imagine the feelings of the residents and the gratitude to Jon Egging for his heroic act. It sickened me to read this story and i can honestly say if i saw someone taking anything from the site I would have to tackle them either verbally or physically and would take the consequences to be honest. People are so sick, would love to catch one and charge him with looting or stealing, as thats what it amounts to. hamworthygirl
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1:05pm Wed 31 Aug 11

penhale says...

My wife and I have been down there to pay our respects to a true hero and a brilliant pilot, the car park was packed but I saw no one hunting for souvenirs, everybody I saw was there for one reason and one reason only, respect.
Not saying that this hasn't gone on but I would say it's a very small minority of sick individuals.
My wife and I have been down there to pay our respects to a true hero and a brilliant pilot, the car park was packed but I saw no one hunting for souvenirs, everybody I saw was there for one reason and one reason only, respect. Not saying that this hasn't gone on but I would say it's a very small minority of sick individuals. penhale
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1:26pm Wed 31 Aug 11

shadow39 says...

Those people should be ashamed of themselves, how low can they get, I noticed the throop car park crammed more than usual as I cycled past on way to Henstisbury Head, I did stop at the memorial site at the end of broadway lane and had a minute silence to reflect what had happened and to pay my respect to Jon Egging who lost his life, and all these people thik about is getting some souvoneir for their pleasure, well it's sick!
Those people should be ashamed of themselves, how low can they get, I noticed the throop car park crammed more than usual as I cycled past on way to Henstisbury Head, I did stop at the memorial site at the end of broadway lane and had a minute silence to reflect what had happened and to pay my respect to Jon Egging who lost his life, and all these people thik about is getting some souvoneir for their pleasure, well it's sick! shadow39
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1:27pm Wed 31 Aug 11

shadow39 says...

Those people should be ashamed of themselves, how low can they get, I noticed the throop car park crammed more than usual as I cycled past on way to Henstisbury Head, I did stop at the memorial site at the end of broadway lane and had a minute silence to reflect what had happened and to pay my respect to Jon Egging who lost his life, and all these people thik about is getting some souvoneir for their pleasure, well it's sick!
Those people should be ashamed of themselves, how low can they get, I noticed the throop car park crammed more than usual as I cycled past on way to Henstisbury Head, I did stop at the memorial site at the end of broadway lane and had a minute silence to reflect what had happened and to pay my respect to Jon Egging who lost his life, and all these people thik about is getting some souvoneir for their pleasure, well it's sick! shadow39
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1:28pm Wed 31 Aug 11

shadow39 says...

Those people should be ashamed of themselves, how low can they get, I noticed the throop car park crammed more than usual as I cycled past on way to Henstisbury Head, I did stop at the memorial site at the end of broadway lane and had a minute silence to reflect what had happened and to pay my respect to Jon Egging who lost his life, and all these people think about is getting some souvoneir for their pleasure, well it's sick!
Those people should be ashamed of themselves, how low can they get, I noticed the throop car park crammed more than usual as I cycled past on way to Henstisbury Head, I did stop at the memorial site at the end of broadway lane and had a minute silence to reflect what had happened and to pay my respect to Jon Egging who lost his life, and all these people think about is getting some souvoneir for their pleasure, well it's sick! shadow39
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1:38pm Wed 31 Aug 11

Wesoblind says...

orsenound wrote:
Dear Sir Alan and Wesoblind, I get the impression that you do not live or have to commute or work in the vicinity of Throop, am I right? If you did you would have seen on MANY occasions over the last 10 days or so that the car park at Throop was filled to over capacity, which spilled out onto the road that services the area. Having nearly 30 years of passing the Mill on my journeys, I have never seen so many people at the site.
If you think firstly that it is appropriate for people to trespass and then remove items that are clearly not theirs to remove and trawl over a fatal crash scene, you really should adjust your perspective of this situation.....
It's amazing how so many people are eager to ridicule anyone who is willing to stand up and be counted..... That is why no doubt you are using the anonymity of the internet..well done.
How silly you call it trespassing, Have you ever walked in that field or on a footpath? maybe we should all stop trespassing on pavements. Also dont suggest for one minute that I wrote anywhere that it was appropriate to remove items from there as this just seems like a statement to manipulate people into discrediting my comments!!!
Maybe every time there is a fatal crash on the roads we should stop everyone going near it from then on?

I went there for two reasons 1) to pay my respects to a modern day hero 2) because I walk the dog there at least once a week.

People have visited the site of 911 every day since it happened there is no sinister reasons for most its a chance to pay respects and reflect.

It just seems sad that in this day and age 1) there are selfish sick people who will go hunting for bits from a tragic accident 2) People judge peoples ways of paying there respects and tar everyone with the same brush just because its inconvenienced there commute.

It just seemed right to pay my respects where Flt Lt Jon Egging spent his final moments trying to protect the residents of throop.
[quote][p][bold]orsenound[/bold] wrote: Dear Sir Alan and Wesoblind, I get the impression that you do not live or have to commute or work in the vicinity of Throop, am I right? If you did you would have seen on MANY occasions over the last 10 days or so that the car park at Throop was filled to over capacity, which spilled out onto the road that services the area. Having nearly 30 years of passing the Mill on my journeys, I have never seen so many people at the site. If you think firstly that it is appropriate for people to trespass and then remove items that are clearly not theirs to remove and trawl over a fatal crash scene, you really should adjust your perspective of this situation..... It's amazing how so many people are eager to ridicule anyone who is willing to stand up and be counted..... That is why no doubt you are using the anonymity of the internet..well done.[/p][/quote]How silly you call it trespassing, Have you ever walked in that field or on a footpath? maybe we should all stop trespassing on pavements. Also dont suggest for one minute that I wrote anywhere that it was appropriate to remove items from there as this just seems like a statement to manipulate people into discrediting my comments!!! Maybe every time there is a fatal crash on the roads we should stop everyone going near it from then on? I went there for two reasons 1) to pay my respects to a modern day hero 2) because I walk the dog there at least once a week. People have visited the site of 911 every day since it happened there is no sinister reasons for most its a chance to pay respects and reflect. It just seems sad that in this day and age 1) there are selfish sick people who will go hunting for bits from a tragic accident 2) People judge peoples ways of paying there respects and tar everyone with the same brush just because its inconvenienced there commute. It just seemed right to pay my respects where Flt Lt Jon Egging spent his final moments trying to protect the residents of throop. Wesoblind
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1:41pm Wed 31 Aug 11

crazydee says...

Sir Alan wrote:
does Concerned throop resident stephen young need publicity so much that this is how he gets it. posing next to the shrine what is that all about. Whilst i agree people should not dig up wreckage many people use the footpath along the river they did so before the tragic accident, and should not feel guilty about doing so after. i suspect stephen young lives nowhere near the crash site . i note no one moaned about all the news coverage when it was on the tv .
Dear Sir Alan and Wesoblind,
Ex-serviceman Stephen Young does,indeed,live locally and does not need to elevate himself by using a false title,as he has a real, hereditary title but chooses not to use it.To think he either wants, or needs his "15 minutes of fame" from this tragedy is sickening in itself,you should be ashamed to even think that.Nobody has a problem with people going to pay their respects,unfortunate
ly,some people could not leave it at that and had to walk all over the contaiminated crash site with their small children and dogs running loose.If they have such disregard for the wellbeing of their own families is it any wonder they lack respect to Jon Egging,his family and all concerned by trying to take home trophies.?At least Stephen had the courage to challenge these people.It's a pity the Echo cannot publish the photos.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Alan[/bold] wrote: does Concerned throop resident stephen young need publicity so much that this is how he gets it. posing next to the shrine what is that all about. Whilst i agree people should not dig up wreckage many people use the footpath along the river they did so before the tragic accident, and should not feel guilty about doing so after. i suspect stephen young lives nowhere near the crash site . i note no one moaned about all the news coverage when it was on the tv .[/p][/quote]Dear Sir Alan and Wesoblind, Ex-serviceman Stephen Young does,indeed,live locally and does not need to elevate himself by using a false title,as he has a real, hereditary title but chooses not to use it.To think he either wants, or needs his "15 minutes of fame" from this tragedy is sickening in itself,you should be ashamed to even think that.Nobody has a problem with people going to pay their respects,unfortunate ly,some people could not leave it at that and had to walk all over the contaiminated crash site with their small children and dogs running loose.If they have such disregard for the wellbeing of their own families is it any wonder they lack respect to Jon Egging,his family and all concerned by trying to take home trophies.?At least Stephen had the courage to challenge these people.It's a pity the Echo cannot publish the photos. crazydee
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1:43pm Wed 31 Aug 11

Bournefre says...

I didn't go shrapnel hunting myself and I expect to get flamed simply for going against the grain as is the way on this website, but how far do you go with slamming 'ghoulish' tourism? Should the museum at Auschwitz be shut down? Should children have been stopped from shrapnel hunting in WW2 bombsites? People made death masks for thousands of years without anyone being branded a 'ghoul' the only reason people are jumping up and down about it now is because we live in a country where everyone is expected to tiptoe around on eggshells for fear of upsetting someone for not being PC enough.
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What these people are doing is as much an uncontrolled reflex as looking at a road accident as you pass it - they probably haven't even thought about what they're doing. If the area were cordoned off and people were directly told not to go near the crash site then they probably wouldn't do it, but people need to be told directly - a sign is not enough.
I didn't go shrapnel hunting myself and I expect to get flamed simply for going against the grain as is the way on this website, but how far do you go with slamming 'ghoulish' tourism? Should the museum at Auschwitz be shut down? Should children have been stopped from shrapnel hunting in WW2 bombsites? People made death masks for thousands of years without anyone being branded a 'ghoul' the only reason people are jumping up and down about it now is because we live in a country where everyone is expected to tiptoe around on eggshells for fear of upsetting someone for not being PC enough. - What these people are doing is as much an uncontrolled reflex as looking at a road accident as you pass it - they probably haven't even thought about what they're doing. If the area were cordoned off and people were directly told not to go near the crash site then they probably wouldn't do it, but people need to be told directly - a sign is not enough. Bournefre
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2:19pm Wed 31 Aug 11

Wesoblind says...

crazydee wrote:
Sir Alan wrote:
does Concerned throop resident stephen young need publicity so much that this is how he gets it. posing next to the shrine what is that all about. Whilst i agree people should not dig up wreckage many people use the footpath along the river they did so before the tragic accident, and should not feel guilty about doing so after. i suspect stephen young lives nowhere near the crash site . i note no one moaned about all the news coverage when it was on the tv .
Dear Sir Alan and Wesoblind,
Ex-serviceman Stephen Young does,indeed,live locally and does not need to elevate himself by using a false title,as he has a real, hereditary title but chooses not to use it.To think he either wants, or needs his "15 minutes of fame" from this tragedy is sickening in itself,you should be ashamed to even think that.Nobody has a problem with people going to pay their respects,unfortunate

ly,some people could not leave it at that and had to walk all over the contaiminated crash site with their small children and dogs running loose.If they have such disregard for the wellbeing of their own families is it any wonder they lack respect to Jon Egging,his family and all concerned by trying to take home trophies.?At least Stephen had the courage to challenge these people.It's a pity the Echo cannot publish the photos.
once again taken out off context, didnt comment on 15 mins of fame just thought the story has been way overblown like most media is and there was no need for the photo by the shrine and if it was me would personly have declined to have my photo taken there. I just dont like being called a trespasser either.
You also cant defend someone then say "people walking all over a contaminated crash site" when the photo above was taken there?
It really does seem we all have to conform to one persons way of thinking here or you get labelled as dis-respectful.
As i have said before i and other people didnt see anyone digging or even looking for pieces so believe its on a smaller scale than its shown to be. I dont condone it for one minute but I dont understand how it was not all collected by the MOD or people who saw it happening didnt confront them in any way or call the police.
ps Hereditary titles in my opinyon are an un earned symbal of power which helps people think there better than others when we are all equal.
[quote][p][bold]crazydee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Alan[/bold] wrote: does Concerned throop resident stephen young need publicity so much that this is how he gets it. posing next to the shrine what is that all about. Whilst i agree people should not dig up wreckage many people use the footpath along the river they did so before the tragic accident, and should not feel guilty about doing so after. i suspect stephen young lives nowhere near the crash site . i note no one moaned about all the news coverage when it was on the tv .[/p][/quote]Dear Sir Alan and Wesoblind, Ex-serviceman Stephen Young does,indeed,live locally and does not need to elevate himself by using a false title,as he has a real, hereditary title but chooses not to use it.To think he either wants, or needs his "15 minutes of fame" from this tragedy is sickening in itself,you should be ashamed to even think that.Nobody has a problem with people going to pay their respects,unfortunate ly,some people could not leave it at that and had to walk all over the contaiminated crash site with their small children and dogs running loose.If they have such disregard for the wellbeing of their own families is it any wonder they lack respect to Jon Egging,his family and all concerned by trying to take home trophies.?At least Stephen had the courage to challenge these people.It's a pity the Echo cannot publish the photos.[/p][/quote]once again taken out off context, didnt comment on 15 mins of fame just thought the story has been way overblown like most media is and there was no need for the photo by the shrine and if it was me would personly have declined to have my photo taken there. I just dont like being called a trespasser either. You also cant defend someone then say "people walking all over a contaminated crash site" when the photo above was taken there? It really does seem we all have to conform to one persons way of thinking here or you get labelled as dis-respectful. As i have said before i and other people didnt see anyone digging or even looking for pieces so believe its on a smaller scale than its shown to be. I dont condone it for one minute but I dont understand how it was not all collected by the MOD or people who saw it happening didnt confront them in any way or call the police. ps Hereditary titles in my opinyon are an un earned symbal of power which helps people think there better than others when we are all equal. Wesoblind
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2:34pm Wed 31 Aug 11

orsenound says...

The point raised was that of the 'fact' that 'yes' the person lives very near to the location. The second is that a large majority 'is' (fact) on private land (read the Echo's story). It is also 'fact' that people have chosen to walk onto a crash site which the MOD had said was not to be used due to hazardous contamination (the top soil has now been removed).
So next time I am around your way I can go through your garden gate and have a wander......?
The point raised was that of the 'fact' that 'yes' the person lives very near to the location. The second is that a large majority 'is' (fact) on private land (read the Echo's story). It is also 'fact' that people have chosen to walk onto a crash site which the MOD had said was not to be used due to hazardous contamination (the top soil has now been removed). So next time I am around your way I can go through your garden gate and have a wander......? orsenound
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2:48pm Wed 31 Aug 11

Wesoblind says...

orsenound wrote:
The point raised was that of the 'fact' that 'yes' the person lives very near to the location. The second is that a large majority 'is' (fact) on private land (read the Echo's story). It is also 'fact' that people have chosen to walk onto a crash site which the MOD had said was not to be used due to hazardous contamination (the top soil has now been removed).
So next time I am around your way I can go through your garden gate and have a wander......?
When did anyone say it was fine to go on private land?
Please all read carefully!

I went to the shrine (where the photo above was taken) to pay my respects. Did not see anyone more than a few meters away from there (apart from walking back along the path to the wheir). I feel it has been made out to be worse than it was when it was just a minority of people visiting there that were sick enough to even look for things like that. I think this story should never been run as the whole thing is disrespectful, the police should have been informed and not the echo.

If you come into my garden you will be reported to the police for trespassing but if there was a fatal accident at the lampost on the pavement outside my garden feel free to leave flowers
[quote][p][bold]orsenound[/bold] wrote: The point raised was that of the 'fact' that 'yes' the person lives very near to the location. The second is that a large majority 'is' (fact) on private land (read the Echo's story). It is also 'fact' that people have chosen to walk onto a crash site which the MOD had said was not to be used due to hazardous contamination (the top soil has now been removed). So next time I am around your way I can go through your garden gate and have a wander......?[/p][/quote]When did anyone say it was fine to go on private land? Please all read carefully! I went to the shrine (where the photo above was taken) to pay my respects. Did not see anyone more than a few meters away from there (apart from walking back along the path to the wheir). I feel it has been made out to be worse than it was when it was just a minority of people visiting there that were sick enough to even look for things like that. I think this story should never been run as the whole thing is disrespectful, the police should have been informed and not the echo. If you come into my garden you will be reported to the police for trespassing but if there was a fatal accident at the lampost on the pavement outside my garden feel free to leave flowers Wesoblind
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3:04pm Wed 31 Aug 11

username is already in use says...

I went down to walk the dog on Monday,I was shocked to see so many small parts of the plane left? maybe the council should send a clean up crew?
I went down to walk the dog on Monday,I was shocked to see so many small parts of the plane left? maybe the council should send a clean up crew? username is already in use
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3:27pm Wed 31 Aug 11

0racle says...

Huey wrote:
wrong on every level
I don't see what's so wrong on any level!.
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I really do feel for the pilot and his family but some of the comments on the whole subject on this site are toe curling. It's like all these people think they're a close family friend.
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I personally am not interested in scavenging soveniers but people have scavenged wrecks on land and at sea since forever. A piece from a Red Arrow is probably quite a high prize in their world.
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: wrong on every level[/p][/quote]I don't see what's so wrong on any level!. . I really do feel for the pilot and his family but some of the comments on the whole subject on this site are toe curling. It's like all these people think they're a close family friend. . I personally am not interested in scavenging soveniers but people have scavenged wrecks on land and at sea since forever. A piece from a Red Arrow is probably quite a high prize in their world. 0racle
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3:43pm Wed 31 Aug 11

oneshortleg says...

I am not suprised some people have a morbid curiousity about this area. They are probably the same as those who slow down on roads to see crashes, however the more the press makes of this story the worse it will be. Let the victims family grieve in peace and stop printing stories about it. It may start to look like the Echo is profiting on his memory!
I am not suprised some people have a morbid curiousity about this area. They are probably the same as those who slow down on roads to see crashes, however the more the press makes of this story the worse it will be. Let the victims family grieve in peace and stop printing stories about it. It may start to look like the Echo is profiting on his memory! oneshortleg
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3:50pm Wed 31 Aug 11

Adamski69 says...

0racle wrote:
Huey wrote:
wrong on every level
I don't see what's so wrong on any level!.
.
I really do feel for the pilot and his family but some of the comments on the whole subject on this site are toe curling. It's like all these people think they're a close family friend.
.
I personally am not interested in scavenging soveniers but people have scavenged wrecks on land and at sea since forever. A piece from a Red Arrow is probably quite a high prize in their world.
I quite agree with you.....
[quote][p][bold]0racle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: wrong on every level[/p][/quote]I don't see what's so wrong on any level!. . I really do feel for the pilot and his family but some of the comments on the whole subject on this site are toe curling. It's like all these people think they're a close family friend. . I personally am not interested in scavenging soveniers but people have scavenged wrecks on land and at sea since forever. A piece from a Red Arrow is probably quite a high prize in their world.[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you..... Adamski69
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4:03pm Wed 31 Aug 11

qqqqqqq says...

Adamski69 wrote:
0racle wrote:
Huey wrote: wrong on every level
I don't see what's so wrong on any level!. . I really do feel for the pilot and his family but some of the comments on the whole subject on this site are toe curling. It's like all these people think they're a close family friend. . I personally am not interested in scavenging soveniers but people have scavenged wrecks on land and at sea since forever. A piece from a Red Arrow is probably quite a high prize in their world.
I quite agree with you.....
Me three
[quote][p][bold]Adamski69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]0racle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: wrong on every level[/p][/quote]I don't see what's so wrong on any level!. . I really do feel for the pilot and his family but some of the comments on the whole subject on this site are toe curling. It's like all these people think they're a close family friend. . I personally am not interested in scavenging soveniers but people have scavenged wrecks on land and at sea since forever. A piece from a Red Arrow is probably quite a high prize in their world.[/p][/quote]I quite agree with you.....[/p][/quote]Me three qqqqqqq
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4:31pm Wed 31 Aug 11

neilrebertson says...

The plane crash was over a week ago. If there is still wreckage of relevance and danger then the MOD investigators. Air accident investigators have been remiss. It is over a week since the accident - a reasonable time for respect.
Is a pile of soggy teddies and rotten flowers tasteful? Perhaps we have lost so much of religion that we are complelled to make these shrines. Oh are the people gathering the metal from the accident travellers? Yes, that's the issue really, is it not?
The plane crash was over a week ago. If there is still wreckage of relevance and danger then the MOD investigators. Air accident investigators have been remiss. It is over a week since the accident - a reasonable time for respect. Is a pile of soggy teddies and rotten flowers tasteful? Perhaps we have lost so much of religion that we are complelled to make these shrines. Oh are the people gathering the metal from the accident travellers? Yes, that's the issue really, is it not? neilrebertson
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4:42pm Wed 31 Aug 11

oneshortleg says...

neilrebertson wrote:
The plane crash was over a week ago. If there is still wreckage of relevance and danger then the MOD investigators. Air accident investigators have been remiss. It is over a week since the accident - a reasonable time for respect.
Is a pile of soggy teddies and rotten flowers tasteful? Perhaps we have lost so much of religion that we are complelled to make these shrines. Oh are the people gathering the metal from the accident travellers? Yes, that's the issue really, is it not?
What has the travelling community got to do with this, its easy to blame them it is more likely people looking to sell stuff on ebay!
[quote][p][bold]neilrebertson[/bold] wrote: The plane crash was over a week ago. If there is still wreckage of relevance and danger then the MOD investigators. Air accident investigators have been remiss. It is over a week since the accident - a reasonable time for respect. Is a pile of soggy teddies and rotten flowers tasteful? Perhaps we have lost so much of religion that we are complelled to make these shrines. Oh are the people gathering the metal from the accident travellers? Yes, that's the issue really, is it not?[/p][/quote]What has the travelling community got to do with this, its easy to blame them it is more likely people looking to sell stuff on ebay! oneshortleg
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5:01pm Wed 31 Aug 11

spooki says...

Bournefre wrote:
I didn't go shrapnel hunting myself and I expect to get flamed simply for going against the grain as is the way on this website, but how far do you go with slamming 'ghoulish' tourism? Should the museum at Auschwitz be shut down? Should children have been stopped from shrapnel hunting in WW2 bombsites? People made death masks for thousands of years without anyone being branded a 'ghoul' the only reason people are jumping up and down about it now is because we live in a country where everyone is expected to tiptoe around on eggshells for fear of upsetting someone for not being PC enough.
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What these people are doing is as much an uncontrolled reflex as looking at a road accident as you pass it - they probably haven't even thought about what they're doing. If the area were cordoned off and people were directly told not to go near the crash site then they probably wouldn't do it, but people need to be told directly - a sign is not enough.
Are you joking? "if the area were cordoned off..." that wouldn't stop people! Do you expect them to have someone there day and night like a club bouncer? Although the MOD can't have looked around that much if people are randomly finding bits lying around.
[quote][p][bold]Bournefre[/bold] wrote: I didn't go shrapnel hunting myself and I expect to get flamed simply for going against the grain as is the way on this website, but how far do you go with slamming 'ghoulish' tourism? Should the museum at Auschwitz be shut down? Should children have been stopped from shrapnel hunting in WW2 bombsites? People made death masks for thousands of years without anyone being branded a 'ghoul' the only reason people are jumping up and down about it now is because we live in a country where everyone is expected to tiptoe around on eggshells for fear of upsetting someone for not being PC enough. - What these people are doing is as much an uncontrolled reflex as looking at a road accident as you pass it - they probably haven't even thought about what they're doing. If the area were cordoned off and people were directly told not to go near the crash site then they probably wouldn't do it, but people need to be told directly - a sign is not enough.[/p][/quote]Are you joking? "if the area were cordoned off..." that wouldn't stop people! Do you expect them to have someone there day and night like a club bouncer? Although the MOD can't have looked around that much if people are randomly finding bits lying around. spooki
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5:19pm Wed 31 Aug 11

Bournefre says...

spooki wrote:
Bournefre wrote:
I didn't go shrapnel hunting myself and I expect to get flamed simply for going against the grain as is the way on this website, but how far do you go with slamming 'ghoulish' tourism? Should the museum at Auschwitz be shut down? Should children have been stopped from shrapnel hunting in WW2 bombsites? People made death masks for thousands of years without anyone being branded a 'ghoul' the only reason people are jumping up and down about it now is because we live in a country where everyone is expected to tiptoe around on eggshells for fear of upsetting someone for not being PC enough.
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What these people are doing is as much an uncontrolled reflex as looking at a road accident as you pass it - they probably haven't even thought about what they're doing. If the area were cordoned off and people were directly told not to go near the crash site then they probably wouldn't do it, but people need to be told directly - a sign is not enough.
Are you joking? "if the area were cordoned off..." that wouldn't stop people! Do you expect them to have someone there day and night like a club bouncer? Although the MOD can't have looked around that much if people are randomly finding bits lying around.
If the area were cordoned off and guarded by PCSOs ("like a club bouncer" if you like) as they do with any crime or accident scene then yes it would keep souvenir hunters out while the MOD retrieve the parts they want. Since they've left it unattended for over a week then it would appear they're not that bothered about what people 'find'.
[quote][p][bold]spooki[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bournefre[/bold] wrote: I didn't go shrapnel hunting myself and I expect to get flamed simply for going against the grain as is the way on this website, but how far do you go with slamming 'ghoulish' tourism? Should the museum at Auschwitz be shut down? Should children have been stopped from shrapnel hunting in WW2 bombsites? People made death masks for thousands of years without anyone being branded a 'ghoul' the only reason people are jumping up and down about it now is because we live in a country where everyone is expected to tiptoe around on eggshells for fear of upsetting someone for not being PC enough. - What these people are doing is as much an uncontrolled reflex as looking at a road accident as you pass it - they probably haven't even thought about what they're doing. If the area were cordoned off and people were directly told not to go near the crash site then they probably wouldn't do it, but people need to be told directly - a sign is not enough.[/p][/quote]Are you joking? "if the area were cordoned off..." that wouldn't stop people! Do you expect them to have someone there day and night like a club bouncer? Although the MOD can't have looked around that much if people are randomly finding bits lying around.[/p][/quote]If the area were cordoned off and guarded by PCSOs ("like a club bouncer" if you like) as they do with any crime or accident scene then yes it would keep souvenir hunters out while the MOD retrieve the parts they want. Since they've left it unattended for over a week then it would appear they're not that bothered about what people 'find'. Bournefre
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5:26pm Wed 31 Aug 11

pd7 says...

Reminds me of rubberneckers on a motorway .

I will moan it bits start turing up on ebay.

I am more interested in what the MOD have done to limit pollution at the site there are some nasty chemicals in a jet.
Reminds me of rubberneckers on a motorway . I will moan it bits start turing up on ebay. I am more interested in what the MOD have done to limit pollution at the site there are some nasty chemicals in a jet. pd7
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7:37pm Wed 31 Aug 11

louisa1234 says...

sorry i think it is sad and disrespectful would they go bck to a car crash if they saw one and pick up bits no they wouldnt unless they are that sad well let every1 have a chance to mourn this hero who died to save other peoples lives he didnt have to but he did jon eggings is a true hero and yes some of us do feel that he is family or a close freind or that we knew him please just let us mourn in peice of this young man he wouldnt want this would he
sorry i think it is sad and disrespectful would they go bck to a car crash if they saw one and pick up bits no they wouldnt unless they are that sad well let every1 have a chance to mourn this hero who died to save other peoples lives he didnt have to but he did jon eggings is a true hero and yes some of us do feel that he is family or a close freind or that we knew him please just let us mourn in peice of this young man he wouldnt want this would he louisa1234
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8:29pm Wed 31 Aug 11

Henry's Daddy says...

username is already in use wrote:
I went down to walk the dog on Monday,I was shocked to see so many small parts of the plane left? maybe the council should send a clean up crew?
Sorry, but you are talking utter crap. I walked my dog around the field on Friday late afternoon and there was absolutely no parts of plane left in the field. There pieces of fence posts and broken barbed wire, but that is all.

If you looked very carefully there were some very small paint fragments. This was the case from the point of 1st contact with the ground to the river bank.
[quote][p][bold]username is already in use[/bold] wrote: I went down to walk the dog on Monday,I was shocked to see so many small parts of the plane left? maybe the council should send a clean up crew?[/p][/quote]Sorry, but you are talking utter crap. I walked my dog around the field on Friday late afternoon and there was absolutely no parts of plane left in the field. There pieces of fence posts and broken barbed wire, but that is all. If you looked very carefully there were some very small paint fragments. This was the case from the point of 1st contact with the ground to the river bank. Henry's Daddy
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9:02pm Wed 31 Aug 11

Old Harry says...

Absolutely no disrespect to the deceased, but has the word "hero" not being used a little too loosely in the last 10 days? All Red Arrow pilots get the ultimate high from what they do and they do it because they want to. At this time there is no evidence that the pilot lost his life because he was guiding his aircraft away from housing.
Absolutely no disrespect to the deceased, but has the word "hero" not being used a little too loosely in the last 10 days? All Red Arrow pilots get the ultimate high from what they do and they do it because they want to. At this time there is no evidence that the pilot lost his life because he was guiding his aircraft away from housing. Old Harry
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9:11pm Wed 31 Aug 11

Henry's Daddy says...

Old Harry wrote:
Absolutely no disrespect to the deceased, but has the word "hero" not being used a little too loosely in the last 10 days? All Red Arrow pilots get the ultimate high from what they do and they do it because they want to. At this time there is no evidence that the pilot lost his life because he was guiding his aircraft away from housing.
Quite. He simply did what all pilots are trained to do - put it down in the biggest open space around.

Hence, the field and diagonal across it at that...
[quote][p][bold]Old Harry[/bold] wrote: Absolutely no disrespect to the deceased, but has the word "hero" not being used a little too loosely in the last 10 days? All Red Arrow pilots get the ultimate high from what they do and they do it because they want to. At this time there is no evidence that the pilot lost his life because he was guiding his aircraft away from housing.[/p][/quote]Quite. He simply did what all pilots are trained to do - put it down in the biggest open space around. Hence, the field and diagonal across it at that... Henry's Daddy
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9:56pm Wed 31 Aug 11

Wesoblind says...

Henry's Daddy wrote:
Old Harry wrote:
Absolutely no disrespect to the deceased, but has the word "hero" not being used a little too loosely in the last 10 days? All Red Arrow pilots get the ultimate high from what they do and they do it because they want to. At this time there is no evidence that the pilot lost his life because he was guiding his aircraft away from housing.
Quite. He simply did what all pilots are trained to do - put it down in the biggest open space around.

Hence, the field and diagonal across it at that...
Are pilots not trained to eject as well? A lot more evidence points to he stayed with the plane to keep it away from houses than not, also he served in Afganistan so like anyone who served/serving out there is a hero in my book.
[quote][p][bold]Henry's Daddy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Harry[/bold] wrote: Absolutely no disrespect to the deceased, but has the word "hero" not being used a little too loosely in the last 10 days? All Red Arrow pilots get the ultimate high from what they do and they do it because they want to. At this time there is no evidence that the pilot lost his life because he was guiding his aircraft away from housing.[/p][/quote]Quite. He simply did what all pilots are trained to do - put it down in the biggest open space around. Hence, the field and diagonal across it at that...[/p][/quote]Are pilots not trained to eject as well? A lot more evidence points to he stayed with the plane to keep it away from houses than not, also he served in Afganistan so like anyone who served/serving out there is a hero in my book. Wesoblind
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1:17am Thu 1 Sep 11

nicensimple says...

this article actually is a case of social proofing and il think you will find that now the number of people searching and being RATS will increase...

surely the journalists have researched this or are aware?
this article actually is a case of social proofing and il think you will find that now the number of people searching and being RATS will increase... surely the journalists have researched this or are aware? nicensimple
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6:10am Thu 1 Sep 11

cardomon says...

This is rubbish. I've seen air crash investigations. Every piece of the plane is removed by the investigators.
This is just another nimby story, bloke in the picture doesn't like the attention Throop is getting.
This is rubbish. I've seen air crash investigations. Every piece of the plane is removed by the investigators. This is just another nimby story, bloke in the picture doesn't like the attention Throop is getting. cardomon
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8:39am Thu 1 Sep 11

TFan says...

cardomon wrote:
This is rubbish. I've seen air crash investigations. Every piece of the plane is removed by the investigators.
This is just another nimby story, bloke in the picture doesn't like the attention Throop is getting.
Whether or not there are pieces of the crashed aircraft left at the site is irrelevenant. If people are there LOOKING for pieces of the aircraft then they are disrespectful at best and ghouls at worst.
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Although not something I would choose to do, I would not decry those who chose to visit the site and pay their respects. But souvenir hunting is beyond the pale whether they found anything or not..
[quote][p][bold]cardomon[/bold] wrote: This is rubbish. I've seen air crash investigations. Every piece of the plane is removed by the investigators. This is just another nimby story, bloke in the picture doesn't like the attention Throop is getting.[/p][/quote]Whether or not there are pieces of the crashed aircraft left at the site is irrelevenant. If people are there LOOKING for pieces of the aircraft then they are disrespectful at best and ghouls at worst. . Although not something I would choose to do, I would not decry those who chose to visit the site and pay their respects. But souvenir hunting is beyond the pale whether they found anything or not.. TFan
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8:46am Thu 1 Sep 11

Mamma Troll says...

So non of you out there own a piece or the true cross?, we wouldn't want any Christian hypocrisy here....Oh wait what am i saying
So non of you out there own a piece or the true cross?, we wouldn't want any Christian hypocrisy here....Oh wait what am i saying Mamma Troll
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9:41am Thu 1 Sep 11

Adamski69 says...

Just been down the crash site to see if I could find a piece, but unfortunately nothing. Lovely area for a stroll though.....
Just been down the crash site to see if I could find a piece, but unfortunately nothing. Lovely area for a stroll though..... Adamski69
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9:55am Thu 1 Sep 11

pete woodley says...

Adamski69 wrote:
Just been down the crash site to see if I could find a piece, but unfortunately nothing. Lovely area for a stroll though.....
Is your comment meant to be funny,its very juvenile,and very stupid.
[quote][p][bold]Adamski69[/bold] wrote: Just been down the crash site to see if I could find a piece, but unfortunately nothing. Lovely area for a stroll though.....[/p][/quote]Is your comment meant to be funny,its very juvenile,and very stupid. pete woodley
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8:00pm Thu 1 Sep 11

kate4 says...

So...... everything I've said before is complete rubbish is it then eh? Respect - Bournemouth people don't know the meaning of the word.
You've all worn red. You've been on facebook and twitter to have your say. You've signed the condolence book, you've left flowers. You've written in the Echo pages. You've mustered at the fence to see the Red Arrows leave, you've left flowers on the fence. Now you've visited the place where the aeroplane with the dead pilot landed. Also taken any debris that was left.
How much longer is this farce going to go on for....... none of you would even spend this much time mourning your own family members who die.
I just hope to goodness that neither the Rad Arrow pilots or Dr Emma Egging read any of this new news... who would blame them if they didn't come back here now.
Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. Respect.... look up the definition in the dictionary, why don't you..........
So...... everything I've said before is complete rubbish is it then eh? Respect - Bournemouth people don't know the meaning of the word. You've all worn red. You've been on facebook and twitter to have your say. You've signed the condolence book, you've left flowers. You've written in the Echo pages. You've mustered at the fence to see the Red Arrows leave, you've left flowers on the fence. Now you've visited the place where the aeroplane with the dead pilot landed. Also taken any debris that was left. How much longer is this farce going to go on for....... none of you would even spend this much time mourning your own family members who die. I just hope to goodness that neither the Rad Arrow pilots or Dr Emma Egging read any of this new news... who would blame them if they didn't come back here now. Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. Respect.... look up the definition in the dictionary, why don't you.......... kate4
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8:25pm Thu 1 Sep 11

Sir Alan says...

cardomon wrote:
This is rubbish. I've seen air crash investigations. Every piece of the plane is removed by the investigators.
This is just another nimby story, bloke in the picture doesn't like the attention Throop is getting.
I am afraid that is not strictly true.

if you go to the crash site of the turkish DC10 that crashed in 1974 near paris, you will even today still find bits of wreckage in the forest, there was just to much to recover.
i suspect with the wreackage they have recovered is more than enough to come to a conclusion as to what happened.

but i do agree if the man pictured is so concerened why is he posing next to the shrine, why do we need to see him
[quote][p][bold]cardomon[/bold] wrote: This is rubbish. I've seen air crash investigations. Every piece of the plane is removed by the investigators. This is just another nimby story, bloke in the picture doesn't like the attention Throop is getting.[/p][/quote]I am afraid that is not strictly true. if you go to the crash site of the turkish DC10 that crashed in 1974 near paris, you will even today still find bits of wreckage in the forest, there was just to much to recover. i suspect with the wreackage they have recovered is more than enough to come to a conclusion as to what happened. but i do agree if the man pictured is so concerened why is he posing next to the shrine, why do we need to see him Sir Alan
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2:13am Fri 2 Sep 11

Wesoblind says...

kate4 wrote:
So...... everything I've said before is complete rubbish is it then eh? Respect - Bournemouth people don't know the meaning of the word.
You've all worn red. You've been on facebook and twitter to have your say. You've signed the condolence book, you've left flowers. You've written in the Echo pages. You've mustered at the fence to see the Red Arrows leave, you've left flowers on the fence. Now you've visited the place where the aeroplane with the dead pilot landed. Also taken any debris that was left.
How much longer is this farce going to go on for....... none of you would even spend this much time mourning your own family members who die.
I just hope to goodness that neither the Rad Arrow pilots or Dr Emma Egging read any of this new news... who would blame them if they didn't come back here now.
Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. Respect.... look up the definition in the dictionary, why don't you..........
So we all did each and every one of these things you have listed??? I think 99% of people did ONE of these things to pay there respects just people like to do it in different ways! and your silly comment on mourning, im sure nobody was mourning, just paying respects! I hope none of these people you have suggested read this either because of dumb tunnel vision comments like yours!
[quote][p][bold]kate4[/bold] wrote: So...... everything I've said before is complete rubbish is it then eh? Respect - Bournemouth people don't know the meaning of the word. You've all worn red. You've been on facebook and twitter to have your say. You've signed the condolence book, you've left flowers. You've written in the Echo pages. You've mustered at the fence to see the Red Arrows leave, you've left flowers on the fence. Now you've visited the place where the aeroplane with the dead pilot landed. Also taken any debris that was left. How much longer is this farce going to go on for....... none of you would even spend this much time mourning your own family members who die. I just hope to goodness that neither the Rad Arrow pilots or Dr Emma Egging read any of this new news... who would blame them if they didn't come back here now. Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. Respect.... look up the definition in the dictionary, why don't you..........[/p][/quote]So we all did each and every one of these things you have listed??? I think 99% of people did ONE of these things to pay there respects just people like to do it in different ways! and your silly comment on mourning, im sure nobody was mourning, just paying respects! I hope none of these people you have suggested read this either because of dumb tunnel vision comments like yours! Wesoblind
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