Action needed over Bournemouth and Poole's "rogue landlords"

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A SMALL number of ‘rogue landlords’ are giving Bournemouth and Poole councils ‘continued cause for concern’, an investigation has revealed.

Research by Shelter found that more than 1,100 complaints about private landlords were made to Bournemouth and Poole councils between 2008/9 and 2011/12.

And in response to Shelter’s Freedom of Information request, the Borough of Poole also revealed there were two un-named private landlords giving continued cause for concern, while Bournemouth Borough Council said it had concerns over ‘fewer than six’.

Despite 540 complaints being made to Bournemouth council between 2008/9 and 2011/12 and 612 to Poole in the same period, there were no successful prosecutions by either council.

But Bournemouth did take ‘pre-enforcement action’, such as issuing written or verbal warnings to landlords in 595 cases last year.

In 528 cases, this action resolved the matter.

Poole took similar action in just 174 cases, resolving the matter in 144 instances.

Campbell Robb, chief executive of Shelter, said: “Despite the significant increase in complaints, we believe that the number of rogue landlords in the south west is still underestimated.

“Some local authorities don’t keep records of complaints and tenants often hold back from complaining out of fear of the consequences or because they don’t believe their voices will be heard, even though such a high proportion of complaints is about life-threatening issues.

“Every day at Shelter we see the devastating impact these landlords have on people’s health and wellbeing.”

Cllr Rob Lawton, Bournemouth’s cabinet member for housing, said: “We want to make sure that people have decent, acceptable accommodation and we’ve now got a free hotline for people who feel intimidated or afraid of their landlord.

“The majority of landlords want to try and better their image and are aware that things could be better. I really do think that things are improving.”

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10:07am Mon 8 Oct 12

Azphreal says...

Name and shame them. If the council keep getting complaints about the same landlord dont send them a letter take them to court and maybe the others may get the idea. Of course as Bournemouth has a pathetic housing stock (and they are changing how its allocated yet agaqin) they need private landlords no matter how bad they are.
Name and shame them. If the council keep getting complaints about the same landlord dont send them a letter take them to court and maybe the others may get the idea. Of course as Bournemouth has a pathetic housing stock (and they are changing how its allocated yet agaqin) they need private landlords no matter how bad they are. Azphreal
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10:34am Mon 8 Oct 12

fuzzy wuzzie says...

Yes councils should police this far more than they currently do. Wonder how many council officials and councillors have property rented out or are BTL or developers.
Yes councils should police this far more than they currently do. Wonder how many council officials and councillors have property rented out or are BTL or developers. fuzzy wuzzie
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10:39am Mon 8 Oct 12

penhale says...

A SMALL number of ‘rogue landlords’ are giving Bournemouth and Poole councils ‘continued cause for concern’, an investigation has revealed.

Have they only just figured this out.
A SMALL number of ‘rogue landlords’ are giving Bournemouth and Poole councils ‘continued cause for concern’, an investigation has revealed. Have they only just figured this out. penhale
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10:42am Mon 8 Oct 12

elite50 says...

I dont get this, a few people who were accused (not charged) of fare evasion get their names splashed on this site.
Shonky landlords who cause real damage to people are "un-named".
Why???????
I dont get this, a few people who were accused (not charged) of fare evasion get their names splashed on this site. Shonky landlords who cause real damage to people are "un-named". Why??????? elite50
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11:08am Mon 8 Oct 12

fuzzy wuzzie says...

elite50 wrote:
I dont get this, a few people who were accused (not charged) of fare evasion get their names splashed on this site.
Shonky landlords who cause real damage to people are "un-named".
Why???????
Very good point... ECHO ?....
[quote][p][bold]elite50[/bold] wrote: I dont get this, a few people who were accused (not charged) of fare evasion get their names splashed on this site. Shonky landlords who cause real damage to people are "un-named". Why???????[/p][/quote]Very good point... ECHO ?.... fuzzy wuzzie
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11:43am Mon 8 Oct 12

KLH says...

I know of an agency in Bournemouth that deals with complaints by sending eviction notices to both complainer and the person they are complaining about.... Or if you had to call the police on anti social behaviour, out you went!! This was because of bullying in a particular HMO.
I know of an agency in Bournemouth that deals with complaints by sending eviction notices to both complainer and the person they are complaining about.... Or if you had to call the police on anti social behaviour, out you went!! This was because of bullying in a particular HMO. KLH
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12:02pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Talkingheadera says...

As usual., shelter scaremongering.
They are so anti landlord it's untrue.
It's a small minority as in everything that ruin it for the rest of us.
Name and shame if factually correct. There's always 2 sides to every story.
What about rogue tenants. There's plenty of them can we name and shame them too?
As usual., shelter scaremongering. They are so anti landlord it's untrue. It's a small minority as in everything that ruin it for the rest of us. Name and shame if factually correct. There's always 2 sides to every story. What about rogue tenants. There's plenty of them can we name and shame them too? Talkingheadera
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12:24pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Bob49 says...

fuzzy wuzzie wrote:
Yes councils should police this far more than they currently do. Wonder how many council officials and councillors have property rented out or are BTL or developers.
.... getting warmer



And you can see why there is still a problem with this idiot remark.

"It's a small minority as in everything that ruin it for the rest of us"

Ruin it ? How ?

The story is about that group so lets stay with that story, rather than having it distracted away elsewhere.
[quote][p][bold]fuzzy wuzzie[/bold] wrote: Yes councils should police this far more than they currently do. Wonder how many council officials and councillors have property rented out or are BTL or developers.[/p][/quote].... getting warmer And you can see why there is still a problem with this idiot remark. "It's a small minority as in everything that ruin it for the rest of us" Ruin it ? How ? The story is about that group so lets stay with that story, rather than having it distracted away elsewhere. Bob49
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12:47pm Mon 8 Oct 12

tracy m says...

How about protection for landords from rogue tenants?
How about protection for landords from rogue tenants? tracy m
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3:13pm Mon 8 Oct 12

fuzzy wuzzie says...

Bob49 wrote:
fuzzy wuzzie wrote:
Yes councils should police this far more than they currently do. Wonder how many council officials and councillors have property rented out or are BTL or developers.
.... getting warmer



And you can see why there is still a problem with this idiot remark.

"It's a small minority as in everything that ruin it for the rest of us"

Ruin it ? How ?

The story is about that group so lets stay with that story, rather than having it distracted away elsewhere.
"there were no successful prosecutions by either council."

Says it all really but let's not be distracted by the facts. BTL per chance?
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fuzzy wuzzie[/bold] wrote: Yes councils should police this far more than they currently do. Wonder how many council officials and councillors have property rented out or are BTL or developers.[/p][/quote].... getting warmer And you can see why there is still a problem with this idiot remark. "It's a small minority as in everything that ruin it for the rest of us" Ruin it ? How ? The story is about that group so lets stay with that story, rather than having it distracted away elsewhere.[/p][/quote]"there were no successful prosecutions by either council." Says it all really but let's not be distracted by the facts. BTL per chance? fuzzy wuzzie
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3:17pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Bob49 says...

tracy m wrote:
How about protection for landords from rogue tenants?
it's called eviction
[quote][p][bold]tracy m[/bold] wrote: How about protection for landords from rogue tenants?[/p][/quote]it's called eviction Bob49
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4:14pm Mon 8 Oct 12

KLH says...

And if you were with a previous agent of mine and had a rogue tenant in one of the flats don't even think about complaining - they will take no notice until they are sick of hearing about it then chuck the person out. And you for moaning about them.
And if you were with a previous agent of mine and had a rogue tenant in one of the flats don't even think about complaining - they will take no notice until they are sick of hearing about it then chuck the person out. And you for moaning about them. KLH
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5:12pm Mon 8 Oct 12

saynomore says...

Bob49 wrote:
tracy m wrote:
How about protection for landords from rogue tenants?
it's called eviction
That takes time and legal costs,you have no idea.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tracy m[/bold] wrote: How about protection for landords from rogue tenants?[/p][/quote]it's called eviction[/p][/quote]That takes time and legal costs,you have no idea. saynomore
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6:05pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Talkingheadera says...

Bob49 wrote:
fuzzy wuzzie wrote:
Yes councils should police this far more than they currently do. Wonder how many council officials and councillors have property rented out or are BTL or developers.
.... getting warmer



And you can see why there is still a problem with this idiot remark.

"It's a small minority as in everything that ruin it for the rest of us"

Ruin it ? How ?

The story is about that group so lets stay with that story, rather than having it distracted away elsewhere.
Shelter say they believe the number I rogue landlords is increasing. No fact just fiction.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fuzzy wuzzie[/bold] wrote: Yes councils should police this far more than they currently do. Wonder how many council officials and councillors have property rented out or are BTL or developers.[/p][/quote].... getting warmer And you can see why there is still a problem with this idiot remark. "It's a small minority as in everything that ruin it for the rest of us" Ruin it ? How ? The story is about that group so lets stay with that story, rather than having it distracted away elsewhere.[/p][/quote]Shelter say they believe the number I rogue landlords is increasing. No fact just fiction. Talkingheadera
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6:35pm Mon 8 Oct 12

fuzzy wuzzie says...

Talkingheadera wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
fuzzy wuzzie wrote:
Yes councils should police this far more than they currently do. Wonder how many council officials and councillors have property rented out or are BTL or developers.
.... getting warmer



And you can see why there is still a problem with this idiot remark.

"It's a small minority as in everything that ruin it for the rest of us"

Ruin it ? How ?

The story is about that group so lets stay with that story, rather than having it distracted away elsewhere.
Shelter say they believe the number I rogue landlords is increasing. No fact just fiction.
Yes and HMO,s are on the increase that's why we need more effective regulations so that landlords get their act together. From my knowledge far more are dodgy than most people think and lots of undeclared income too.
[quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fuzzy wuzzie[/bold] wrote: Yes councils should police this far more than they currently do. Wonder how many council officials and councillors have property rented out or are BTL or developers.[/p][/quote].... getting warmer And you can see why there is still a problem with this idiot remark. "It's a small minority as in everything that ruin it for the rest of us" Ruin it ? How ? The story is about that group so lets stay with that story, rather than having it distracted away elsewhere.[/p][/quote]Shelter say they believe the number I rogue landlords is increasing. No fact just fiction.[/p][/quote]Yes and HMO,s are on the increase that's why we need more effective regulations so that landlords get their act together. From my knowledge far more are dodgy than most people think and lots of undeclared income too. fuzzy wuzzie
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7:55pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Drew_Peacock says...

Lots of problems with private rented property at the moment in this country, there's the "sheds with beds" in areas like Slough, the drugs and crime associated with HMO's in Boscombe, and the nightmare being endured by the residents close to student lets in the "new" University towns. It's unusual, if not unheard of, for me to suggest that we need more legislation, but in this case we do - much tighter controls on the number, management and location of HMO's, Landlords or agents to be responsible for checking that the people they offer tenancies to are actually entitled to live in this country, with the same sort of penalties for housing illegal immigrants as employers face for employing them, and the phasing out of student shared houses altogether, with the aim to get all students into halls of residence, and a limit on the number of properties owned by a landlord before he has to become a registered social landlord. Around here at least, we have cleaned up social housing, we don't see the same roads on council estates cropping up in reports on court appearances any more like we used to, it's now time to clean up the private rented sector.
Lots of problems with private rented property at the moment in this country, there's the "sheds with beds" in areas like Slough, the drugs and crime associated with HMO's in Boscombe, and the nightmare being endured by the residents close to student lets in the "new" University towns. It's unusual, if not unheard of, for me to suggest that we need more legislation, but in this case we do - much tighter controls on the number, management and location of HMO's, Landlords or agents to be responsible for checking that the people they offer tenancies to are actually entitled to live in this country, with the same sort of penalties for housing illegal immigrants as employers face for employing them, and the phasing out of student shared houses altogether, with the aim to get all students into halls of residence, and a limit on the number of properties owned by a landlord before he has to become a registered social landlord. Around here at least, we have cleaned up social housing, we don't see the same roads on council estates cropping up in reports on court appearances any more like we used to, it's now time to clean up the private rented sector. Drew_Peacock
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8:01pm Mon 8 Oct 12

Bob49 says...

saynomore wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
tracy m wrote:
How about protection for landords from rogue tenants?
it's called eviction
That takes time and legal costs,you have no idea.
How do you know what idea of this I have ?

So back to the subject not the diversion
[quote][p][bold]saynomore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tracy m[/bold] wrote: How about protection for landords from rogue tenants?[/p][/quote]it's called eviction[/p][/quote]That takes time and legal costs,you have no idea.[/p][/quote]How do you know what idea of this I have ? So back to the subject not the diversion Bob49
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12:03am Tue 9 Oct 12

WickedWillow1 says...

Yes and while we're at it. I feel sorry for my friends who live in run down private rented homes which are also damp. They have kids who have social care involved and they are getting the blame for these issues because landlords refuse to treat them. My last private property was overun with rats, the landlord refused to pay environmental health to treat it despite the fact we had kids with us.
Yes and while we're at it. I feel sorry for my friends who live in run down private rented homes which are also damp. They have kids who have social care involved and they are getting the blame for these issues because landlords refuse to treat them. My last private property was overun with rats, the landlord refused to pay environmental health to treat it despite the fact we had kids with us. WickedWillow1
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7:28am Tue 9 Oct 12

Talkingheadera says...

fuzzy wuzzie wrote:
Talkingheadera wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
fuzzy wuzzie wrote:
Yes councils should police this far more than they currently do. Wonder how many council officials and councillors have property rented out or are BTL or developers.
.... getting warmer



And you can see why there is still a problem with this idiot remark.

"It's a small minority as in everything that ruin it for the rest of us"

Ruin it ? How ?

The story is about that group so lets stay with that story, rather than having it distracted away elsewhere.
Shelter say they believe the number I rogue landlords is increasing. No fact just fiction.
Yes and HMO,s are on the increase that's why we need more effective regulations so that landlords get their act together. From my knowledge far more are dodgy than most people think and lots of undeclared income too.
Hmo's are on the increase?
I don't think so. Undeclared income?
That goes on in every business but don't see how you would especially apply it to this one.
Every deposit has to able protected now and registered by law so the inland revenue can easily check rental amounts nowadays.
There's nothing wrong with most Hmo's. Most are well run and managed.
[quote][p][bold]fuzzy wuzzie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Talkingheadera[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]fuzzy wuzzie[/bold] wrote: Yes councils should police this far more than they currently do. Wonder how many council officials and councillors have property rented out or are BTL or developers.[/p][/quote].... getting warmer And you can see why there is still a problem with this idiot remark. "It's a small minority as in everything that ruin it for the rest of us" Ruin it ? How ? The story is about that group so lets stay with that story, rather than having it distracted away elsewhere.[/p][/quote]Shelter say they believe the number I rogue landlords is increasing. No fact just fiction.[/p][/quote]Yes and HMO,s are on the increase that's why we need more effective regulations so that landlords get their act together. From my knowledge far more are dodgy than most people think and lots of undeclared income too.[/p][/quote]Hmo's are on the increase? I don't think so. Undeclared income? That goes on in every business but don't see how you would especially apply it to this one. Every deposit has to able protected now and registered by law so the inland revenue can easily check rental amounts nowadays. There's nothing wrong with most Hmo's. Most are well run and managed. Talkingheadera
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7:35am Tue 9 Oct 12

Talkingheadera says...

Drew_Peacock wrote:
Lots of problems with private rented property at the moment in this country, there's the "sheds with beds" in areas like Slough, the drugs and crime associated with HMO's in Boscombe, and the nightmare being endured by the residents close to student lets in the "new" University towns. It's unusual, if not unheard of, for me to suggest that we need more legislation, but in this case we do - much tighter controls on the number, management and location of HMO's, Landlords or agents to be responsible for checking that the people they offer tenancies to are actually entitled to live in this country, with the same sort of penalties for housing illegal immigrants as employers face for employing them, and the phasing out of student shared houses altogether, with the aim to get all students into halls of residence, and a limit on the number of properties owned by a landlord before he has to become a registered social landlord. Around here at least, we have cleaned up social housing, we don't see the same roads on council estates cropping up in reports on court appearances any more like we used to, it's now time to clean up the private rented sector.
a actually there's very few complaints to council from rental properties.less than 4% last year.
You cant discriminate against students. Tar them all with same brush.they have a right to live where they wish. Will you include mature students,foreign students,a mix of both
There's already legislation for large Hmo's.its called licensing.
Are people not aware of this.?
Pity tenants cant be licensed too..
[quote][p][bold]Drew_Peacock[/bold] wrote: Lots of problems with private rented property at the moment in this country, there's the "sheds with beds" in areas like Slough, the drugs and crime associated with HMO's in Boscombe, and the nightmare being endured by the residents close to student lets in the "new" University towns. It's unusual, if not unheard of, for me to suggest that we need more legislation, but in this case we do - much tighter controls on the number, management and location of HMO's, Landlords or agents to be responsible for checking that the people they offer tenancies to are actually entitled to live in this country, with the same sort of penalties for housing illegal immigrants as employers face for employing them, and the phasing out of student shared houses altogether, with the aim to get all students into halls of residence, and a limit on the number of properties owned by a landlord before he has to become a registered social landlord. Around here at least, we have cleaned up social housing, we don't see the same roads on council estates cropping up in reports on court appearances any more like we used to, it's now time to clean up the private rented sector.[/p][/quote]a actually there's very few complaints to council from rental properties.less than 4% last year. You cant discriminate against students. Tar them all with same brush.they have a right to live where they wish. Will you include mature students,foreign students,a mix of both There's already legislation for large Hmo's.its called licensing. Are people not aware of this.? Pity tenants cant be licensed too.. Talkingheadera
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8:22am Tue 9 Oct 12

Talkingheadera says...

WickedWillow1 wrote:
Yes and while we're at it. I feel sorry for my friends who live in run down private rented homes which are also damp. They have kids who have social care involved and they are getting the blame for these issues because landlords refuse to treat them. My last private property was overun with rats, the landlord refused to pay environmental health to treat it despite the fact we had kids with us.
Do you feel sorry for me who ended up with a cat breeder that let the cats pee all over the carpets and lived like a pig.
Costing me a lot of money despite good referenced.?
I doubt it because it's always the landlords fault.
Yes we can evict but its not easy. Tenants who live in poor conditions can move though.
[quote][p][bold]WickedWillow1[/bold] wrote: Yes and while we're at it. I feel sorry for my friends who live in run down private rented homes which are also damp. They have kids who have social care involved and they are getting the blame for these issues because landlords refuse to treat them. My last private property was overun with rats, the landlord refused to pay environmental health to treat it despite the fact we had kids with us.[/p][/quote]Do you feel sorry for me who ended up with a cat breeder that let the cats pee all over the carpets and lived like a pig. Costing me a lot of money despite good referenced.? I doubt it because it's always the landlords fault. Yes we can evict but its not easy. Tenants who live in poor conditions can move though. Talkingheadera
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10:13am Tue 9 Oct 12

elite50 says...

WickedWillow1 wrote:
Yes and while we're at it. I feel sorry for my friends who live in run down private rented homes which are also damp. They have kids who have social care involved and they are getting the blame for these issues because landlords refuse to treat them. My last private property was overun with rats, the landlord refused to pay environmental health to treat it despite the fact we had kids with us.
You have kids and yet you let your home get overrun by rats and call someone else to fix your problem?
Why didn't YOU do something?
[quote][p][bold]WickedWillow1[/bold] wrote: Yes and while we're at it. I feel sorry for my friends who live in run down private rented homes which are also damp. They have kids who have social care involved and they are getting the blame for these issues because landlords refuse to treat them. My last private property was overun with rats, the landlord refused to pay environmental health to treat it despite the fact we had kids with us.[/p][/quote]You have kids and yet you let your home get overrun by rats and call someone else to fix your problem? Why didn't YOU do something? elite50
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