Bournemouth schoolboy, 11, is stranded at bus stop for an hour (From Bournemouth Echo)
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Bournemouth schoolboy, 11, is stranded at bus stop for an hour
1:00pm Saturday 6th October 2012 in News By Arron Hendy
ALL BY MYSELF: Ashley Roy, whose 2B Yellow Bus on Kinson Road, did not turn up, leaving his parents to order him a taxi to arrive home safely
PARENTS have vented their anger after their son gave up on waiting for a bus and called for a taxi.
Ashley Roy finished his after-school club at the Bourne Academy in Bournemouth and his parents said he was stood at the bus stop in Hadow Road for an hour waiting for a 2B Yellow Bus.
His mum Tina Convery feels it was unsafe to leave an 11-year-old waiting and was frustrated that bus chiefs refused to reimburse the £11 taxi fare for the trip back to their home in Spring Road, Springbourne.
Tina, 40, said Ashley did the right thing.
“But I’m really angry with Yellow Buses,” she said.
“He waited over an hour and no bus turned up so he ended up getting a cab which cost £11.
“You hear about children being abducted and the bus company is not helping.
“It’s happened before with my children being stranded going to school.”
Ashley had been at the after-school youth club before going to the bus stop as usual.
Yellow Buses denied that Ashley was waiting for an hour and said it was 30 minutes.
His stepdad Martin Convery said he was worried about Ashley’s safety.
“That’s what’s vented my anger, that he was left there,” he said.
Jenni Wilkinson, head of marketing at Yellow Buses, said: "We’ve investigated this complaint and can confirm that the 2b service did operate on the afternoon in question but was running approximately 30 minutes late.
“We’ve apologised to Mr and Mrs Convery in person but, unfortunately, there are occasions when circumstances beyond our control can cause delays, most notably traffic congestion and roadworks.
“Our Conditions of Carriage – which can be found on our website at www.bybus.co.uk - clearly state that no refunds will be issued for taxi fares."
Comments(66)
Buddles
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1:16pm Sat 6 Oct 12
Presumably the lad called his parents on a mobile to inform them, at least they knew why he would be late. Feel free to order a cab but in no way should the bus company be reimbursing the parents. What next? People wanting reimbursement because a bus made them late for an appointment?
Child abduction is rare despite it making headlines when it does happen.
Get a grip parents and stop blaming others for everything.
BoscombeBloke
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1:19pm Sat 6 Oct 12
buickboy
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1:29pm Sat 6 Oct 12
Pathetic !
elite50
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1:44pm Sat 6 Oct 12
It never even occured to me to simply ignore what he said.
How times have changed!
elite50
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1:50pm Sat 6 Oct 12
Never could afford to get it fixed, I left school at 14.
My kids always had bikes that worked.
How come the Echo never interviewed me?
Can I sue them?????
Derf
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2:04pm Sat 6 Oct 12
nigglygrilly
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2:46pm Sat 6 Oct 12
nigglygrilly
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2:48pm Sat 6 Oct 12
RageAgainstTheMachine
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3:08pm Sat 6 Oct 12
So the only people to blame are the parents/guardians and espically not yellow buses.
CaitMcMaster
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3:22pm Sat 6 Oct 12
jamesmarshall
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3:34pm Sat 6 Oct 12
fifty shades of brown envelopes
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3:39pm Sat 6 Oct 12
our school was in Tipperary,
no buses
it was a long long way to go...
etfcboy1971
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3:41pm Sat 6 Oct 12
Derf wrote:you need to think about what you said !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Given there isn't actually any bus stops in Haddow Road, I would summise that this chap isn't of sufficient intelligence to be let out unaccompanied, let alone trusted to wait for a bus.
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RageAgainstTheMachine
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3:45pm Sat 6 Oct 12
jamesmarshall wrote:Haha,
Try living in Corfe Mullen!
I lived in Merley in the 1980s the buses then were rather sporadic especially after 5pm,so we walked everywhere,or cycled.I didnt moan after i found out from my friend who lived in Holt(Wimborne) that they only had one bus a week on a tuesday or wednesday.........I counted myself lucky after hearing that.
etfcboy1971
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3:51pm Sat 6 Oct 12
1) they are not irresponsible parents. where they choose to send their children for their education, is down to them.
2) he was at bus stop, from 3.10 pm, cause the bus was due at 3.21pm, and another one at 3.29pm. neither turned up after bus company saying they where running 1/2 half hr late. here stayed at bus stop til 4.10pm, thus if half hr late he would have got bus.
3) and he is very intelligent, and had the good mind to phone his mother, as he did not know what to do.
so to the person who put, he is a brat, no he not. and to the one that said he shouldn't be allowed out on the street, be careful what u write
Derf
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3:51pm Sat 6 Oct 12
etfcboy1971 wrote:Well... are you sugesting waiting in a road without a bus stop then moaning that the bus didn't arrive is an intelligent thing??
Derf wrote:you need to think about what you said !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Given there isn't actually any bus stops in Haddow Road, I would summise that this chap isn't of sufficient intelligence to be let out unaccompanied, let alone trusted to wait for a bus.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Given Haddow Road is a Cul-de-sac, I'm surprised anyone would suppose a bus stops there!
etfcboy1971
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3:54pm Sat 6 Oct 12
etfcboy1971
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4:02pm Sat 6 Oct 12
Derf wrote:well you need to go to SPECSAVERS as there is a bus stop with HADOW ROAD on it doh
etfcboy1971 wrote:Well... are you sugesting waiting in a road without a bus stop then moaning that the bus didn't arrive is an intelligent thing??
Derf wrote:you need to think about what you said !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Given there isn't actually any bus stops in Haddow Road, I would summise that this chap isn't of sufficient intelligence to be let out unaccompanied, let alone trusted to wait for a bus.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Given Haddow Road is a Cul-de-sac, I'm surprised anyone would suppose a bus stops there!
Derf
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4:05pm Sat 6 Oct 12
There is most definately not a bus stop in Haddow Road, therefore my initial comment stands.
djd
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4:08pm Sat 6 Oct 12
What a namby pamby society we live in.
Yes, I can see the concern for his safety, but it is the parent's responsibility to get him to and from school, no-one elses'.
Buses do get caught in traffic, just like other vehicle and if anyone has travelled along Kinson Road and seen the amount of roadworks, then it's understandable.
Perhaps Southern Gas Networks will pay the fare.
After all that, it's good that he got home safely.
katewritesstuff
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4:31pm Sat 6 Oct 12
fifty shades of brown envelopes
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4:32pm Sat 6 Oct 12
The lads a sissy
Old Colonial
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4:57pm Sat 6 Oct 12
Lord Spring
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5:13pm Sat 6 Oct 12
Why send a child out to the Wild West to be educated might as well carried on to Canford School
Lord Spring
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5:17pm Sat 6 Oct 12
fifty shades of brown envelopes wrote:But my hearts right there.
We used to live in Garyshane in the 30s,
our school was in Tipperary,
no buses
it was a long long way to go...
dvdr
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5:17pm Sat 6 Oct 12
djd
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5:19pm Sat 6 Oct 12
katewritesstuff wrote:Easy answer, Don't go running to the local paper with the story then.
I think you people criticising the parents are ridiculous. You know nothing about them or their daily lives. Jumping to such snap judgements and making such hurtful comments (and yes, they are hurtful comments) is unfortunately just another given in today's self-centred 'I'm always right' culture.
TheDistrict
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5:20pm Sat 6 Oct 12
Derf wrote:There maybe reasons for and against this story as shown above, but I believe the boy has justifiable reason to complain regarding the buses not turning up, after waiting on behing advised that the bus was 30 minutes behind schedule.
Given there isn't actually any bus stops in Haddow Road, I would summise that this chap isn't of sufficient intelligence to be let out unaccompanied, let alone trusted to wait for a bus.
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However, one thing that is true, is that there is a Bus Stop in Hadow Road, and has been for some time. If one Googles Hadow Road to obtain map, and look at the satellite version, one will see a marked bus stop painted on the road inside Hadow Road.
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Facts first please.
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LordLilliput
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5:36pm Sat 6 Oct 12
Old Colonial wrote:The Echo has no standard of reporting.
Issue her is yet another Echo story featuring full details and photo of a minor. Is it right to put them up for ridicule not just in front of their 'mates' but in full public eye. Stick to photos of parents with arms folded and faces like the back of a bus.
This is obvious to anyone who is a regular reader. From it's choice of story to the appalling state of reporting it is a disgrace to decent journalism.
It is happy to exploit those that are happy - or misguided enough - to exploit themselves. Quite what job the editor does I have no idea but it's clear that the paper has no regard for what most would regard as news, and is content to fill it's pages with dross.
Well done Team Echo - you have consistently exceeded at showing yourselves up time after time, month after month for the utter shameful journalists that you are.
Derf
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5:55pm Sat 6 Oct 12
TheDistrict wrote:Google maps (streetview) also shows a seagull at eye level in Brighton High street, but I can almost guarantee you it's not there now. ;-)
Derf wrote:There maybe reasons for and against this story as shown above, but I believe the boy has justifiable reason to complain regarding the buses not turning up, after waiting on behing advised that the bus was 30 minutes behind schedule.
Given there isn't actually any bus stops in Haddow Road, I would summise that this chap isn't of sufficient intelligence to be let out unaccompanied, let alone trusted to wait for a bus.
.
However, one thing that is true, is that there is a Bus Stop in Hadow Road, and has been for some time. If one Googles Hadow Road to obtain map, and look at the satellite version, one will see a marked bus stop painted on the road inside Hadow Road.
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Facts first please.
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(don't believe everything you see on the internet)
Bournefre
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7:06pm Sat 6 Oct 12
Textbook.
pete woodley
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7:22pm Sat 6 Oct 12
retry69
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7:26pm Sat 6 Oct 12
katewritesstuff wrote:I think you totally miss the point of some of the commenters,the Bournemouth people deserve a local paper that gives us local news by news i do not me subjects like "boy stranded at bus stop","woman forced to walk home from hospital etc etc" two examples of the rubbish that has been tried to be passed as news when anyone with any intelligence would realise that its cases of someone trying to get something for nothing because life didnt go their way.But thats the way it is, so please dont you criticise people who are not as niave as you who tells life as it really is
I think you people criticising the parents are ridiculous. You know nothing about them or their daily lives. Jumping to such snap judgements and making such hurtful comments (and yes, they are hurtful comments) is unfortunately just another given in today's self-centred 'I'm always right' culture.
Dibbles2
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9:17pm Sat 6 Oct 12
TheDistrict wrote:This is the finniest argument on the cho of late and all of you seem to have missed the comment under the photo!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I suggest you read it. Poor reporting maybe but please guys calling an 11 year old boys names etc is warranted.
Derf wrote:There maybe reasons for and against this story as shown above, but I believe the boy has justifiable reason to complain regarding the buses not turning up, after waiting on behing advised that the bus was 30 minutes behind schedule.
Given there isn't actually any bus stops in Haddow Road, I would summise that this chap isn't of sufficient intelligence to be let out unaccompanied, let alone trusted to wait for a bus.
.
However, one thing that is true, is that there is a Bus Stop in Hadow Road, and has been for some time. If one Googles Hadow Road to obtain map, and look at the satellite version, one will see a marked bus stop painted on the road inside Hadow Road.
.
Facts first please.
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etfcboy1971
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9:28pm Sat 6 Oct 12
katewritesstuff wrote:thankyou very much i agree with you
I think you people criticising the parents are ridiculous. You know nothing about them or their daily lives. Jumping to such snap judgements and making such hurtful comments (and yes, they are hurtful comments) is unfortunately just another given in today's self-centred 'I'm always right' culture.
Dibbles2
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9:47pm Sat 6 Oct 12
etfcboy1971 wrote:Me too my above post should say unwarranted! What a horrid society we live in when people slag off an 11year old boy.
katewritesstuff wrote:thankyou very much i agree with you
I think you people criticising the parents are ridiculous. You know nothing about them or their daily lives. Jumping to such snap judgements and making such hurtful comments (and yes, they are hurtful comments) is unfortunately just another given in today's self-centred 'I'm always right' culture.
WickedWillow1
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12:09am Sun 7 Oct 12
katewritesstuff
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4:40am Sun 7 Oct 12
Alas, I wasn't commenting on the comments about news, I was commenting on the people criticising the boys parents for being bad parents. I don't believe that has anything to do with wanting better local news actually. Perhaps if you could explain to me how, that'd be brilliant.
Also you might want to look up the word naive in the OED, I fail to see how recognising total idiocy warrants me to be labelled as naive. But hey, guess it's better than being an ****.
katewritesstuff
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4:40am Sun 7 Oct 12
Alas, I wasn't commenting on the comments about news, I was commenting on the people criticising the boys parents for being bad parents. I don't believe that has anything to do with wanting better local news actually. Perhaps if you could explain to me how, that'd be brilliant.
Also you might want to look up the word naive in the OED, I fail to see how recognising total idiocy warrants me to be labelled as naive. But hey, guess it's better than being an ****.
katewritesstuff
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4:53am Sun 7 Oct 12
retry69
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7:27am Sun 7 Oct 12
katewritesstuff wrote:If that comment refers to mine then i suggest before showering me with insults re-read it.I actually said that you miss the point of the commenters, also your patronising remarks will stand you in good stead with your chosen career, even the possibility of a job at the Echo
I didn't miss the point of the article at all. I agree that local news should be actual news, (a story about a lad not being allowed to drink shandy at my old school made the national press once) and I am actually studying media and journalism so am in agreement with the person who spoke about publishing a picture and details of a minor.
Alas, I wasn't commenting on the comments about news, I was commenting on the people criticising the boys parents for being bad parents. I don't believe that has anything to do with wanting better local news actually. Perhaps if you could explain to me how, that'd be brilliant.
Also you might want to look up the word naive in the OED, I fail to see how recognising total idiocy warrants me to be labelled as naive. But hey, guess it's better than being an ****.
l'anglais
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8:24am Sun 7 Oct 12
Half of the old foggies on here spent there time dodging Adolf's V1 and V2's on their 50 mile hike into School.
Fortunately there isn't a Charles Dickens figure writing about our kids' up bringing.
The world is a better place today than 50 years ago, so when things go wrong they should be highlighted, not swept under the carpet.
retry69
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8:53am Sun 7 Oct 12
l'anglais wrote:WOW !not old enough to remember the V1s and 2s but interesting you seem to think the world is a better place than 50years ago,i assume you were not around then so whats that based on?
Yellow Buses are supposed to provide a service to the community. If they fail to do so they should be held accountable. So yes, if this young lads bus or buses didn't come along he should receive compensation.
Half of the old foggies on here spent there time dodging Adolf's V1 and V2's on their 50 mile hike into School.
Fortunately there isn't a Charles Dickens figure writing about our kids' up bringing.
The world is a better place today than 50 years ago, so when things go wrong they should be highlighted, not swept under the carpet.
yesitsmeagain
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10:31am Sun 7 Oct 12
katewritesstuff
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11:02am Sun 7 Oct 12
retry69
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11:06am Sun 7 Oct 12
katewritesstuff wrote:I wish you all the best in life with your OED
Oh I meant commenters. Would have thought that would be clear from the rest of my comment, obviously not.
katewritesstuff
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11:12am Sun 7 Oct 12
penhale
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11:39am Sun 7 Oct 12
Derf wrote:I have to agree, just had a look on street view and there is a marked bay which states but stop but there's no bus stop sign on any lamp post, so do buses still go down there or not.?
his parents said he was stood at the bus stop IN Hadow Road
There is most definately not a bus stop in Haddow Road, therefore my initial comment stands.
polblagger
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12:21pm Sun 7 Oct 12
etfcboy1971 wrote:If I may, let me make some points of my own.
as a friend of the family, i do know them very well.
1) they are not irresponsible parents. where they choose to send their children for their education, is down to them.
2) he was at bus stop, from 3.10 pm, cause the bus was due at 3.21pm, and another one at 3.29pm. neither turned up after bus company saying they where running 1/2 half hr late. here stayed at bus stop til 4.10pm, thus if half hr late he would have got bus.
3) and he is very intelligent, and had the good mind to phone his mother, as he did not know what to do.
so to the person who put, he is a brat, no he not. and to the one that said he shouldn't be allowed out on the street, be careful what u write
1) Sentences start with a capital letter.
2) Cause is not the correct retraction of because.
3) Here is not the correct pronoun for a boy.
4) You should never start a sentence with 'and'.
5) Making threats over the internet is one of the most pathetic outbursts any grown adult can make.
6) If you went to a school in this child's catchment area I can see why his parents sent him elsewhere.
downmoor-ch63
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1:31pm Sun 7 Oct 12
BournemouthMum
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5:56pm Sun 7 Oct 12
l'anglais wrote:Actually Transdev Yellow Buses is a private enerprise and as such are accountable to no one. If this had been a company such as Damoury with a school contract then it is different. What you seem to be suggesting is that passengers should be offered compensation every time public transport - be it a train, bus or whatever - is late, thus making them late for work or school etc. which is ridiculous. Even a journey by car can be late because of a delay.
Yellow Buses are supposed to provide a service to the community. If they fail to do so they should be held accountable. So yes, if this young lads bus or buses didn't come along he should receive compensation.
Half of the old foggies on here spent there time dodging Adolf's V1 and V2's on their 50 mile hike into School.
Fortunately there isn't a Charles Dickens figure writing about our kids' up bringing.
The world is a better place today than 50 years ago, so when things go wrong they should be highlighted, not swept under the carpet.
Also, why is a child from the Springbourne area attending a school in Poole, and not a very good one at that? We live in the Springbourne/Queen's Park area and my son went to Portchester and now Bournemouth School 6th form. It seems rather a long way for a child to go to school every morning.
Richard Head
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7:31pm Sun 7 Oct 12
Do you REALLY think so?
With all the drugs, the binge drinking, the murders, stabbings, shootings, shoplifting and the apparently new craze of the hit & run accidents. Cyclists bombing along the pavement, knocking people over and riding away.
We live in an age when people do exactly as they like and if that's against the law or causes upset to somebody, then hard luck!!!
I know very well that we have far superior medical treatment than 50 years ago, and that applies to other things as well. We have the internet, double glazing, central heating and a more comfortable lifestyle in general.
But where's the respect for other people gone? 50 years ago, I was 18 and everyone was still referred to as Mr. & Mrs. We didn't have the first name era then, (except among our friends of course). I honestly believe that, when the first name era came in, respect for people went out and it's got steadily worse since then.
I'm not trying to make fun of L'anglais' comments, but do you really think that the world's better place than 50 years ago?
l'anglais
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7:50pm Sun 7 Oct 12
BournemouthMum wrote:So private companies shouldn't pay compensation, how very right wing of of you.
l'anglais wrote:Actually Transdev Yellow Buses is a private enerprise and as such are accountable to no one. If this had been a company such as Damoury with a school contract then it is different. What you seem to be suggesting is that passengers should be offered compensation every time public transport - be it a train, bus or whatever - is late, thus making them late for work or school etc. which is ridiculous. Even a journey by car can be late because of a delay.
Yellow Buses are supposed to provide a service to the community. If they fail to do so they should be held accountable. So yes, if this young lads bus or buses didn't come along he should receive compensation.
Half of the old foggies on here spent there time dodging Adolf's V1 and V2's on their 50 mile hike into School.
Fortunately there isn't a Charles Dickens figure writing about our kids' up bringing.
The world is a better place today than 50 years ago, so when things go wrong they should be highlighted, not swept under the carpet.
Also, why is a child from the Springbourne area attending a school in Poole, and not a very good one at that? We live in the Springbourne/Queen's Park area and my son went to Portchester and now Bournemouth School 6th form. It seems rather a long way for a child to go to school every morning.
When they initially submitted the tender to provide this much needed service, did they have a contractual obligation to provide on time bus services?
Living in France, the SNCF have a policy of total ticket reimbursement if their trains are 1 hour late.
Thatcher would be turning in her grave (wishful thinking) if this applied to dear old blighty.
Public services should be just that!
l'anglais
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8:04pm Sun 7 Oct 12
Richard Head wrote:I couldn't agree more, manners are poor and common courteous exchange is rare.
I appreciate this is really way off the initial subject, but l'anglais wrote: "The world is a better place today than 50 years ago"
Do you REALLY think so?
With all the drugs, the binge drinking, the murders, stabbings, shootings, shoplifting and the apparently new craze of the hit & run accidents. Cyclists bombing along the pavement, knocking people over and riding away.
We live in an age when people do exactly as they like and if that's against the law or causes upset to somebody, then hard luck!!!
I know very well that we have far superior medical treatment than 50 years ago, and that applies to other things as well. We have the internet, double glazing, central heating and a more comfortable lifestyle in general.
But where's the respect for other people gone? 50 years ago, I was 18 and everyone was still referred to as Mr. & Mrs. We didn't have the first name era then, (except among our friends of course). I honestly believe that, when the first name era came in, respect for people went out and it's got steadily worse since then.
I'm not trying to make fun of L'anglais' comments, but do you really think that the world's better place than 50 years ago?
However, which generation is to blame for this lack of moral conduct?
Those who have inherited it, or the educators, ie. the previous generations.
You refer to drugs and booze and crime etc..... as if our grandparents were brought up in monasteries and convents.
Your arguments Richard Head are based upon your access to information that your Grandparents could have only dream about. They only had access to the village rumour mill.
The issue here relates to an eleven year old and his family expecting that a public service in the 21st century do its duty.
You must remember that its was when today's pensioners had the guardianship of the nation that the good gave way to the greedy and the mean.
pete woodley
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8:18pm Sun 7 Oct 12
BournemouthMum
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8:34pm Sun 7 Oct 12
l'anglais wrote:"When they initially submitted the tender to provide this much needed service"...
BournemouthMum wrote:So private companies shouldn't pay compensation, how very right wing of of you.
l'anglais wrote:Actually Transdev Yellow Buses is a private enerprise and as such are accountable to no one. If this had been a company such as Damoury with a school contract then it is different. What you seem to be suggesting is that passengers should be offered compensation every time public transport - be it a train, bus or whatever - is late, thus making them late for work or school etc. which is ridiculous. Even a journey by car can be late because of a delay.
Yellow Buses are supposed to provide a service to the community. If they fail to do so they should be held accountable. So yes, if this young lads bus or buses didn't come along he should receive compensation.
Half of the old foggies on here spent there time dodging Adolf's V1 and V2's on their 50 mile hike into School.
Fortunately there isn't a Charles Dickens figure writing about our kids' up bringing.
The world is a better place today than 50 years ago, so when things go wrong they should be highlighted, not swept under the carpet.
Also, why is a child from the Springbourne area attending a school in Poole, and not a very good one at that? We live in the Springbourne/Queen's Park area and my son went to Portchester and now Bournemouth School 6th form. It seems rather a long way for a child to go to school every morning.
When they initially submitted the tender to provide this much needed service, did they have a contractual obligation to provide on time bus services?
Living in France, the SNCF have a policy of total ticket reimbursement if their trains are 1 hour late.
Thatcher would be turning in her grave (wishful thinking) if this applied to dear old blighty.
Public services should be just that!
Er.. bus services were deregulated in 1986!!
Transdev is a PRIVATE company, not a public service! Wakey wakey!,
Richard Head
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8:41pm Sun 7 Oct 12
l'anglais wrote:It was a pleasure to read your reply l'anglais and I agree with pretty much everything you said.
Richard Head wrote:I couldn't agree more, manners are poor and common courteous exchange is rare.
I appreciate this is really way off the initial subject, but l'anglais wrote: "The world is a better place today than 50 years ago"
Do you REALLY think so?
With all the drugs, the binge drinking, the murders, stabbings, shootings, shoplifting and the apparently new craze of the hit & run accidents. Cyclists bombing along the pavement, knocking people over and riding away.
We live in an age when people do exactly as they like and if that's against the law or causes upset to somebody, then hard luck!!!
I know very well that we have far superior medical treatment than 50 years ago, and that applies to other things as well. We have the internet, double glazing, central heating and a more comfortable lifestyle in general.
But where's the respect for other people gone? 50 years ago, I was 18 and everyone was still referred to as Mr. & Mrs. We didn't have the first name era then, (except among our friends of course). I honestly believe that, when the first name era came in, respect for people went out and it's got steadily worse since then.
I'm not trying to make fun of L'anglais' comments, but do you really think that the world's better place than 50 years ago?
However, which generation is to blame for this lack of moral conduct?
Those who have inherited it, or the educators, ie. the previous generations.
You refer to drugs and booze and crime etc..... as if our grandparents were brought up in monasteries and convents.
Your arguments Richard Head are based upon your access to information that your Grandparents could have only dream about. They only had access to the village rumour mill.
The issue here relates to an eleven year old and his family expecting that a public service in the 21st century do its duty.
You must remember that its was when today's pensioners had the guardianship of the nation that the good gave way to the greedy and the mean.
The points you made were good and extremely valid, but it was nothing more than the question of whether we consider the world to be a better place than it was 50 years ago without apportioning blame to any generation in particular.
I'm perfectly happy to say that, in some respects, yes it is and in others, most definitely not.
Nevertheless, as you correctly point out, the issue is about an 11 year old expecting a service which he didn't get.
Perhaps we may communicate on another occasion.
s-pb2
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12:33am Mon 8 Oct 12
pete woodley wrote:I agree. And then the parents making the lad pose for Echo photos and having his name printed. He will be ridiculed something rotten at school by his peers now! Still at least his parents have vented their anger through the newspapers and got it off their chest, but at what price?
My sympathy is for the boy,for having such greedy parents.
l'anglais
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1:35pm Mon 8 Oct 12
BournemouthMum wrote:So, in your reckoning a private company can not be held accountable.
l'anglais wrote:"When they initially submitted the tender to provide this much needed service"...
BournemouthMum wrote:So private companies shouldn't pay compensation, how very right wing of of you.
l'anglais wrote:Actually Transdev Yellow Buses is a private enerprise and as such are accountable to no one. If this had been a company such as Damoury with a school contract then it is different. What you seem to be suggesting is that passengers should be offered compensation every time public transport - be it a train, bus or whatever - is late, thus making them late for work or school etc. which is ridiculous. Even a journey by car can be late because of a delay.
Yellow Buses are supposed to provide a service to the community. If they fail to do so they should be held accountable. So yes, if this young lads bus or buses didn't come along he should receive compensation.
Half of the old foggies on here spent there time dodging Adolf's V1 and V2's on their 50 mile hike into School.
Fortunately there isn't a Charles Dickens figure writing about our kids' up bringing.
The world is a better place today than 50 years ago, so when things go wrong they should be highlighted, not swept under the carpet.
Also, why is a child from the Springbourne area attending a school in Poole, and not a very good one at that? We live in the Springbourne/Queen's Park area and my son went to Portchester and now Bournemouth School 6th form. It seems rather a long way for a child to go to school every morning.
When they initially submitted the tender to provide this much needed service, did they have a contractual obligation to provide on time bus services?
Living in France, the SNCF have a policy of total ticket reimbursement if their trains are 1 hour late.
Thatcher would be turning in her grave (wishful thinking) if this applied to dear old blighty.
Public services should be just that!
Er.. bus services were deregulated in 1986!!
Transdev is a PRIVATE company, not a public service! Wakey wakey!,
Ofcom regulates over private telecommunications.
There are also ombudsmen for Banks and insurances companies.
So even if Yellow Buses are not fit for purpose, they can carry on regardless.
Dream on!
Chiqqy
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10:52pm Tue 9 Oct 12
So are we going to have a news story for every late bus that ever happens ?
I never would have called a taxi for that short distance when I was a kid. I know everyone's going to moan at me now !!! XD
cycopath
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6:49am Wed 10 Oct 12
Chiqqy wrote:I dont see why you think everyones going to moan at you.Your comment makes complete sense and if anything shows what a complete waste of time and effort the story is and how many, many people want everything done for them and if not expect compensation.As you say "get on with it"
I used to ride from Castle Lane West to Glenmoor on my bike and later on walked when it got wrecked by some prat in a car when I was 11. It is virtually the same distance. In my opinion this boy should have just walked home. Yes it was annoying the bus didn't turn up but I would have just walked home, it wasn't late at night. Just phone your parents, tell them you'll be a bit late and get on with it.
So are we going to have a news story for every late bus that ever happens ?
I never would have called a taxi for that short distance when I was a kid. I know everyone's going to moan at me now !!! XD
weevie
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7:40am Wed 10 Oct 12
Incidentally Kinson road is in B'mth, not Poole. Amazing how many people got stuck interwebing google to see if there was a Bus stop in Haddow road. You're all mad, quite mad.
For the story itself, I don't care a fig. The biggest idea work exploring was part-mentioned further-up here.
What the hell is lad doing in Haddow road when he lives in Springbourne?
If you drive around this conurbation during a school holiday, you (might) have noticed the pure bliss of roads relatively uncluttered between 8-9am, and again 3-4pm because the kids are off school.
Shame they can't just walk or cycle to the nearest one isn't it? No more 'quirked' house prices in certain areas, no more battling to get to WORK whilst sharing the roads with 4x4's and people-movers driven by stressed-out mothers. Bliss.
Angry_of_Merley
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1:35pm Wed 10 Oct 12
I always wondered how long it would be before we got a 'left stranded at bus stop' sob story.
A mate of mine told me the other day how a couple of his kids were left at the bus stop on their way to school and no bus turned up, and how he was thinking about contacting the echo. When he told me that I couldn't stop laughing and ripped the proverbial out of him for days for even THINKING about it. They only live a couple of miles from the school . . . can't the kids walk for crying out loud . . . well what if they get lost . . . c'mon . . . .
I need to go and lie down now . . this whole episode has made me very angry . . . and want to take a cross armed self portrait
Dreaming of headline . .
'Stranded at bus stop' story makes reader so angry they have to go and lie down, and take time off work etc etc bla bla bla . .
hamworthygirl
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5:44pm Wed 10 Oct 12
sammmymac
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9:01pm Wed 10 Oct 12
His parents have chosen to send him outside his catchment area so they are responsible for the fact he is stranded.
Perhaps they have fallen for / been sucked in by the glossy brochure and fancy uniform of The Academy schools and believe this to mean it is a better school. Appearance is everything nowadays.
contric says...
1:15pm Sat 6 Oct 12