Shopkeeper prosecuted over danger vodka "bought from white van man"

Bournemouth Echo: Shopkeeper prosecuted over danger vodka "bought from white van man" Shopkeeper prosecuted over danger vodka "bought from white van man"

A SHOPKEEPER has ended up in court following the seizure of illegal vodka from his off-licence.

Erkan Hinisli, 29, from Turbary Wines at Turbary Road, Ferndown, admitted selling vodka containing prohibited levels of methanol, an industrial alcohol.

He also pleaded guilty to selling under strength vodka, alcohol with false ‘duty paid’ labels and was unable to identify his supplier.

Bournemouth magistrates heard how Trading Standards had received a complaint from a customer claiming that the vodka had made him feel ill, rather than drunk.

Officers visited the premises and made a test purchase of the ‘Granton’ brand vodka which was then analysed. They returned to seize 72 bottles of vodka and two bottles of whisky.

Hinisli later claimed he had bought the spirits from a man in a white van who called at his shop, stating he was representing a local cash and carry. The spirits were cheaper than usual and no receipt was provided.

Magistrates took into account the small monthly wage Hinisli was earning from the shop and his previous good character when they imposed a two-year conditional discharge. Hinisli was ordered to pay £1,600 costs.

Speaking after the case, Dorset County Council’s trading standards service manager Ivan Hancock said: “Our priority was to ensure members of the public were not put at risk.

“Officers visited local independent off-licences in the area after these spirits were seized but no other stocks of this vodka were found. Food and drink retailers must be cautious about what they are selling to consumers.

“Any trader who buys stock, particularly alcohol, from an untraceable source without proper invoices is not thinking about the safety of their customers.”

Anyone who has recently purchased this brand of vodka should contact the Citizens Advice consumer service on 08454 04 05 06.

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3:05pm Thu 4 Oct 12

pete woodley says...

stronger sentences are needed to dter offenders who pretend they do not know the suppliers.
stronger sentences are needed to dter offenders who pretend they do not know the suppliers. pete woodley
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3:41pm Thu 4 Oct 12

Old Colonial says...

pete woodley wrote:
stronger sentences are needed to dter offenders who pretend they do not know the suppliers.
You're right. Also, of what exactly was he convicted? Surely fraud comes into this. And can we assume he is still considered fit and proper to hold a licence?
[quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: stronger sentences are needed to dter offenders who pretend they do not know the suppliers.[/p][/quote]You're right. Also, of what exactly was he convicted? Surely fraud comes into this. And can we assume he is still considered fit and proper to hold a licence? Old Colonial
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3:45pm Thu 4 Oct 12

BmthNewshound says...

“Any trader who buys stock, particularly alcohol, from an untraceable source without proper invoices is not thinking about the safety of their customers.”…. talk about stating the obvious, they are only thinking of their profits and the sentence given by the magistrate is hardly going to act as a deterrent to other rogue retailers.
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As a businessman what makes me angry is that if I make a mistake on my VAT return I can face large fines and even prison. This shopkeeper has not only sold a potentially dangerous product but also defrauded HMRC by not paying the relevant taxes.
“Any trader who buys stock, particularly alcohol, from an untraceable source without proper invoices is not thinking about the safety of their customers.”…. talk about stating the obvious, they are only thinking of their profits and the sentence given by the magistrate is hardly going to act as a deterrent to other rogue retailers. . As a businessman what makes me angry is that if I make a mistake on my VAT return I can face large fines and even prison. This shopkeeper has not only sold a potentially dangerous product but also defrauded HMRC by not paying the relevant taxes. BmthNewshound
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4:04pm Thu 4 Oct 12

cynicist says...

My girlfriend felt quite ill after having only a couple glasses of vodka at a local nightclub. I suspected that it was something like this.
My girlfriend felt quite ill after having only a couple glasses of vodka at a local nightclub. I suspected that it was something like this. cynicist
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4:26pm Thu 4 Oct 12

BIGTONE says...

BmthNewshound says...
3:45pm Thu 4 Oct 12

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As a businessman what makes me angry is that if I make a mistake on my VAT return I can face large fines and even prison. This shopkeeper has not only sold a potentially dangerous product but also defrauded HMRC by not paying the relevant taxes.”





I have a sneaky feeling a rather large estimated tax bill will be soon winging it's way to the shopkeeper courtesy of HMRC.
BmthNewshound says... 3:45pm Thu 4 Oct 12 . As a businessman what makes me angry is that if I make a mistake on my VAT return I can face large fines and even prison. This shopkeeper has not only sold a potentially dangerous product but also defrauded HMRC by not paying the relevant taxes.” I have a sneaky feeling a rather large estimated tax bill will be soon winging it's way to the shopkeeper courtesy of HMRC. BIGTONE
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4:35pm Thu 4 Oct 12

Upkeep says...

These people have absolutely no interest in their customers. They dont care if they get ill as long as they`re making money then everythings OK. I would never buy alcohol from these type of shopkeepers. This is just the tip of the iceberg.
These people have absolutely no interest in their customers. They dont care if they get ill as long as they`re making money then everythings OK. I would never buy alcohol from these type of shopkeepers. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Upkeep
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4:48pm Thu 4 Oct 12

scrumpyjack says...

You get the impression that all of these type off licences are doing the same thing and close inspection would uncover something dodgy in all of them.
You get the impression that all of these type off licences are doing the same thing and close inspection would uncover something dodgy in all of them. scrumpyjack
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5:11pm Thu 4 Oct 12

manyogie says...

Revoke the license, and demote the site as not suitable for licensed premises.
This will get the message over that it aint worth it
Revoke the license, and demote the site as not suitable for licensed premises. This will get the message over that it aint worth it manyogie
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5:14pm Thu 4 Oct 12

Bob49 says...

"“Our priority was to ensure members of the public were not put at risk"



"Any trader who buys stock, particularly alcohol, from an untraceable source without proper invoices is not thinking about the safety of their customers"


So how can you square the second statement with the first ?

Or is it because you are talking past tense here ie were not put at risk.

What about future risk ? There is no knowing how many other bottles have been sold - or are likely to be sold again. Not too dificult to change the stock after 6pm is it when you know there is little likelihood of an inspection ?

I have to agree with scrumpyjack about this being more widespread. there should be an automatic loss of license for the licensee and the premises (to stop a 'cousin' simply taking over).

Or do we have to wait until there is a death ?
"“Our priority was to ensure members of the public were not put at risk" "Any trader who buys stock, particularly alcohol, from an untraceable source without proper invoices is not thinking about the safety of their customers" So how can you square the second statement with the first ? Or is it because you are talking past tense here ie were not put at risk. What about future risk ? There is no knowing how many other bottles have been sold - or are likely to be sold again. Not too dificult to change the stock after 6pm is it when you know there is little likelihood of an inspection ? I have to agree with scrumpyjack about this being more widespread. there should be an automatic loss of license for the licensee and the premises (to stop a 'cousin' simply taking over). Or do we have to wait until there is a death ? Bob49
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5:18pm Thu 4 Oct 12

Telscombe Cliffy says...

Make it the law that all alcohol is all traceable, If a shopkeeper cannot prove supplier and stock purchased then massive fines and lifelong ban for the family not only the individual otherwise it starts up again as a front under brother, uncles name etc. No wonder there are thousands of these shops all seemingly making a living. Looks like its only because of this type of fiddle. Needs a massive government investigation. Could be bigger nationally than money made from the drugs trade?
Make it the law that all alcohol is all traceable, If a shopkeeper cannot prove supplier and stock purchased then massive fines and lifelong ban for the family not only the individual otherwise it starts up again as a front under brother, uncles name etc. No wonder there are thousands of these shops all seemingly making a living. Looks like its only because of this type of fiddle. Needs a massive government investigation. Could be bigger nationally than money made from the drugs trade? Telscombe Cliffy
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5:33pm Thu 4 Oct 12

pete woodley says...

its cigs as well.
its cigs as well. pete woodley
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5:34pm Thu 4 Oct 12

Bournefre says...

Name & Shame!
Name & Shame! Bournefre
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6:18pm Thu 4 Oct 12

Bob49 says...

"No wonder there are thousands of these shops all seemingly making a living. Looks like its only because of this type of fiddle"



It could be also that it is a convenient way of cleaning up money. Most of the transactionw will be in cash, So any cash paid into the bank will be presumed to have been taken through the till at the shop.

My understanding is that the same activity is carried out through car washes, which have also spung up everywhere. Which can have a fast turnover of staff and cash payments. All of which can prove difficult to vefify as being correct.

Before anyone complains I do not state that any specific business is engaged in such activity or there are not perfectly legal businesses who work in these areas either.
"No wonder there are thousands of these shops all seemingly making a living. Looks like its only because of this type of fiddle" It could be also that it is a convenient way of cleaning up money. Most of the transactionw will be in cash, So any cash paid into the bank will be presumed to have been taken through the till at the shop. My understanding is that the same activity is carried out through car washes, which have also spung up everywhere. Which can have a fast turnover of staff and cash payments. All of which can prove difficult to vefify as being correct. Before anyone complains I do not state that any specific business is engaged in such activity or there are not perfectly legal businesses who work in these areas either. Bob49
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6:41pm Thu 4 Oct 12

_mooch_ says...

If trading standards are looking for a volunteer to visit these sellers of strong liquors i am willing to offer my service. for the sake of the good people of Dorset of course
If trading standards are looking for a volunteer to visit these sellers of strong liquors i am willing to offer my service. for the sake of the good people of Dorset of course _mooch_
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9:10pm Thu 4 Oct 12

Telscombe Cliffy says...

Bob49 wrote:
"No wonder there are thousands of these shops all seemingly making a living. Looks like its only because of this type of fiddle"



It could be also that it is a convenient way of cleaning up money. Most of the transactionw will be in cash, So any cash paid into the bank will be presumed to have been taken through the till at the shop.

My understanding is that the same activity is carried out through car washes, which have also spung up everywhere. Which can have a fast turnover of staff and cash payments. All of which can prove difficult to vefify as being correct.

Before anyone complains I do not state that any specific business is engaged in such activity or there are not perfectly legal businesses who work in these areas either.
Well said, I'm beginning to think this Country is corrupt wherever you look nowadays.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: "No wonder there are thousands of these shops all seemingly making a living. Looks like its only because of this type of fiddle" It could be also that it is a convenient way of cleaning up money. Most of the transactionw will be in cash, So any cash paid into the bank will be presumed to have been taken through the till at the shop. My understanding is that the same activity is carried out through car washes, which have also spung up everywhere. Which can have a fast turnover of staff and cash payments. All of which can prove difficult to vefify as being correct. Before anyone complains I do not state that any specific business is engaged in such activity or there are not perfectly legal businesses who work in these areas either.[/p][/quote]Well said, I'm beginning to think this Country is corrupt wherever you look nowadays. Telscombe Cliffy
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8:40am Fri 5 Oct 12

Mr N James says...

H wouuld done a storm on TRICKETS X made loads of ££££££
H wouuld done a storm on TRICKETS X made loads of ££££££ Mr N James
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9:51am Fri 5 Oct 12

scrumpyjack says...

_mooch_ wrote:
If trading standards are looking for a volunteer to visit these sellers of strong liquors i am willing to offer my service. for the sake of the good people of Dorset of course
Hero's like you bring a tear to my eye. Selfless.
[quote][p][bold]_mooch_[/bold] wrote: If trading standards are looking for a volunteer to visit these sellers of strong liquors i am willing to offer my service. for the sake of the good people of Dorset of course[/p][/quote]Hero's like you bring a tear to my eye. Selfless. scrumpyjack
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12:39pm Fri 5 Oct 12

darcyknows says...

CLOSE HIM DOWN AND DEPORT HIM.
CLOSE HIM DOWN AND DEPORT HIM. darcyknows
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7:08pm Wed 10 Oct 12

Oakey says...

After hearing this story I checked with Trading Standards at Dorchester and the local licensing office at EDDC and they implied that very little contact had been made with them from anybody on the subject and nothing would be done about cancelling the alcohol license unless somebody took the trouble to make a complaint and filled in the necessary forms. Anybody affected by the sale of this alcohol should contact the Licensing Team at EDDC tele 01202 886201 and try to get that license revoked. The people there cannot do much without being approached. Whether the HMRC will get their act together regarding this chap who, apart from dodgy book keeping, has been selling poison to the public is questionable.
After hearing this story I checked with Trading Standards at Dorchester and the local licensing office at EDDC and they implied that very little contact had been made with them from anybody on the subject and nothing would be done about cancelling the alcohol license unless somebody took the trouble to make a complaint and filled in the necessary forms. Anybody affected by the sale of this alcohol should contact the Licensing Team at EDDC tele 01202 886201 and try to get that license revoked. The people there cannot do much without being approached. Whether the HMRC will get their act together regarding this chap who, apart from dodgy book keeping, has been selling poison to the public is questionable. Oakey
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