We don't want your £1m, say Christchurch traders

Artist’s impression: From the north east of the proposed new Morrisons foodstore, Stony Lane, Christchurch

Artist’s impression: From the north east of the proposed new Morrisons foodstore, Stony Lane, Christchurch

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TRADERS in Christchurch have turned their back on £1million amid grave concerns about three major supermarket applications.

At a meeting of Christchurch Chamber of Trade on Monday, traders looked upon a £1million “town centre fund” offered by one of the three developers, with scepticism.

They were there to form a response on the three proposals for large food stores in the borough, which are due to go before councillors at Christchurch during a special planning meeting on June 14.

The three separate applications are for a Morrisons at Stony Lane on the site of Beagle Technology, a riverside development at Bailey Retail Park and a revised application for a supermarket at Meteor Park in Somerford.

Traders were taken through the different aspects of each application including the proposal of a £1million fund from Bournemouth-based developers Quantum, who are behind the Bailey Retail Park scheme.

If this had been accepted it would have been divided into an innovation fund of £350,000, an economic development fund of £200,000 and a BID fund of £450,000 to kick-start a Christchurch town centre BID.

But traders and business owners, mindful of the significant impact any of the schemes are likely to have on the town centre, said they felt unable to support any of them.

They did decide that the “lesser of the three evils” was the Meteor Park scheme, due to its distance from the town and the probability a large housing development may be built nearby at Roeshot Hill.

President Peter Watson-Lee said: “Obviously this is an unprecedented situation Christchurch is in.

“I do not think the council have ever found themselves in this position and because of all the plans we are a player in the situation and our views are being sought and listened to.”

He added: “Obviously we are concerned about the diversion of trade with all of the applications and it will be damaging for the town.

“Our position as the Chamber of Trade is that we are opposed to any of the supermarkets coming into town.

“Despite our previous position to Meteor Park it is probably the lesser of three evils.”

Concerns were also raised about the impact such a large new supermarket would have on the existing Waitrose, Marks and Spencer and Co-operative.

With many people relying on the footfall Waitrose in particular brings to the town centre, calls were made to protect the existing businesses and devise a way to improve the trading situation in the town.

In a statement David Hines, chief executive of Quantum: “Our proposals for a new mixed use development at Bailey Drive comprises amongst other things 25 new affordable dwellings, a low cost gym, new pedestrian bridge over the Stour, play park, statue to Sir Donald Bailey and new waterfront landscaping, as well as the supermarket itself.

“This will create 375 new jobs and will provide a huge boost by creating new wealth and preventing the loss of spend into neighbouring boroughs.

“We calculate the value of the community benefits we are proposing to be in the region of £6m and within this have ring fenced £1m for initiatives to enhance the High Street.

“We are talking to the council, chamber of trade and commerce and other stakeholders saying we have an open mind how this money could be deployed and its exact legal mechanism would be sorted out as part of any planning consent.

“The objective however is clear. We need to strengthen our retail, leisure and tourism proposition and for this you need money at a time when budgets are being cut.

“A £1m war chest could make a massive difference to Christchurch in these recessionary times. Suggestions we have received have ranged from free parking, transport improvements, a town centre manager to more events like the food festival. The list is endless.

“From our many recent conversations and community engagement events we have observed a huge public pride in Christchurch but a massive frustration that more could be done to strengthen its prosperity.

“We see our proposed £1m ‘war chest’, together with the mixed use development at Bailey Drive, as improving the district and town centres, providing a massive boost to the area from new jobs and homes, creating and retaining wealth in the local area, even yielding more rates for the council.”

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4:44pm Thu 31 May 12

Football banning order yob says...

Foolish people the high street has nothing apart from hair dressers, banks, and places to eat.. Waitrose, co-op and marks are all over priced. I would welcome the developments to the town.
Foolish people the high street has nothing apart from hair dressers, banks, and places to eat.. Waitrose, co-op and marks are all over priced. I would welcome the developments to the town. Football banning order yob
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4:50pm Thu 31 May 12

sc61 says...

Football banning order yob wrote:
Foolish people the high street has nothing apart from hair dressers, banks, and places to eat.. Waitrose, co-op and marks are all over priced. I would welcome the developments to the town.
Spot on, the king canute award once more.
[quote][p][bold]Football banning order yob[/bold] wrote: Foolish people the high street has nothing apart from hair dressers, banks, and places to eat.. Waitrose, co-op and marks are all over priced. I would welcome the developments to the town.[/p][/quote]Spot on, the king canute award once more. sc61
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5:23pm Thu 31 May 12

bsjc1234 says...

Common sense prevails at last, we do not need it, bye bye Morrisons.
Common sense prevails at last, we do not need it, bye bye Morrisons. bsjc1234
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5:36pm Thu 31 May 12

MikeFrench says...

In my opinion there will be a significant number from outside X'Church who would come into the town if Morrison's were there, Waitrose & M&S customers would still shop where they are now...
In my opinion there will be a significant number from outside X'Church who would come into the town if Morrison's were there, Waitrose & M&S customers would still shop where they are now... MikeFrench
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5:49pm Thu 31 May 12

ShuttleX says...

Why do these NIMBY's even have a say? Of course they don't want a supermarket anywhere near them. Most traders in Christchurch live in a time warp. Hopefully the Council will listen to what the people of Christchurch want, and not this bunch of backward looking trolls. A lot of their shops really need to shape up, or shut up. Offer your customers what they want, at a price they can afford, and you will have no worries. Offer them tat, at high prices, and they will leave you in droves. I have heard that Argos and Robert Dyas may be pulling out of Christchurch (anybody know if that is true?) If they do, it will kill the town off even quicker then the slow agonising death it is going through now. The town needs big stores to get people into the town. The market is quite good as markets go, but even that seems to be dying. Traders need to stop living in the past, as most of these seem to be doing.
(I will now sit back and wait for the posts telling me I have no idea what I'm talking about and I can't see the "bigger" picture.)
Why do these NIMBY's even have a say? Of course they don't want a supermarket anywhere near them. Most traders in Christchurch live in a time warp. Hopefully the Council will listen to what the people of Christchurch want, and not this bunch of backward looking trolls. A lot of their shops really need to shape up, or shut up. Offer your customers what they want, at a price they can afford, and you will have no worries. Offer them tat, at high prices, and they will leave you in droves. I have heard that Argos and Robert Dyas may be pulling out of Christchurch (anybody know if that is true?) If they do, it will kill the town off even quicker then the slow agonising death it is going through now. The town needs big stores to get people into the town. The market is quite good as markets go, but even that seems to be dying. Traders need to stop living in the past, as most of these seem to be doing. (I will now sit back and wait for the posts telling me I have no idea what I'm talking about and I can't see the "bigger" picture.) ShuttleX
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6:28pm Thu 31 May 12

babybird76 says...

At the end of the day there needs to be more affordable shopping choices for families and the not so well off elderly and besides Im sure M&S and Waitrose can cope with some competition which they do not have at the moment.
At the end of the day there needs to be more affordable shopping choices for families and the not so well off elderly and besides Im sure M&S and Waitrose can cope with some competition which they do not have at the moment. babybird76
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8:54pm Thu 31 May 12

Crank says...

Stinks of bribery under any other name.
Stinks of bribery under any other name. Crank
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8:54pm Thu 31 May 12

razz39 says...

Morrisons is so badly needed in this area to stop Tesco's domination...persona
lly I would make the trip especially to christchurch to go to morrisons and then probably spend the day wandering round christchurch....up to this point I go once in a blue moon............once you have been to the high street its the same old same old...Move foreward Christchurch open it up.........please...
Morrisons is so badly needed in this area to stop Tesco's domination...persona lly I would make the trip especially to christchurch to go to morrisons and then probably spend the day wandering round christchurch....up to this point I go once in a blue moon............once you have been to the high street its the same old same old...Move foreward Christchurch open it up.........please... razz39
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8:56pm Thu 31 May 12

puppylover says...

375 towns in the uk have just applied to be one of 12 towns to share £1million under the Mary Portas pilot scheme, to rejuvenate their high streets. Here Christchurch traders are being offered £1million to improve the high street and are turning it down - are the mad! No doubt they'll come up with a great idea like a Wetherspoon's to improve the town - so they can kill of the pubs
375 towns in the uk have just applied to be one of 12 towns to share £1million under the Mary Portas pilot scheme, to rejuvenate their high streets. Here Christchurch traders are being offered £1million to improve the high street and are turning it down - are the mad! No doubt they'll come up with a great idea like a Wetherspoon's to improve the town - so they can kill of the pubs puppylover
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9:26pm Thu 31 May 12

Turtlebay says...

@puppylover, the £1 million would not have been spent on the High Street. The article above tells us what it would be used for "..innovation fund of £350,000, economic development fund of £200,000 and a BID fund of £450,000 ".
@puppylover, the £1 million would not have been spent on the High Street. The article above tells us what it would be used for "..innovation fund of £350,000, economic development fund of £200,000 and a BID fund of £450,000 ". Turtlebay
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9:38pm Thu 31 May 12

sc61 says...

bsjc1234 wrote:
Common sense prevails at last, we do not need it, bye bye Morrisons.
Well you don't maybe, personally I'd rather like a shorter drive than Verwood or Totton to use a decent size Morrissons; bring it on.
[quote][p][bold]bsjc1234[/bold] wrote: Common sense prevails at last, we do not need it, bye bye Morrisons.[/p][/quote]Well you don't maybe, personally I'd rather like a shorter drive than Verwood or Totton to use a decent size Morrissons; bring it on. sc61
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11:12pm Thu 31 May 12

woby_tide says...

I A £1m bribe from Quantum along with their application riddled with misrepresentations. So this bridge across the Stour, I've searched Bournemouth planning applications and can't find it mentioned there, does it stop in the middle of the River? Or the riverside cafe, with choice of mcchicken sandwich or big mac
I A £1m bribe from Quantum along with their application riddled with misrepresentations. So this bridge across the Stour, I've searched Bournemouth planning applications and can't find it mentioned there, does it stop in the middle of the River? Or the riverside cafe, with choice of mcchicken sandwich or big mac woby_tide
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8:26am Fri 1 Jun 12

BmthNewshound says...

A new supermarket IS going to be built in Christchurch whether town centre traders like it or not.
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The cool reception to this £1m clearly demonstrates how arrogant and out of touch the chamber of commerce is.
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As with Waitrose in Wimborne a small number of people may make a lot of noise objecting but they don't respresent the wishes of the majority. And I wonder when the new supermarket opens how many of those opposed to the scheme will actually shop there.
A new supermarket IS going to be built in Christchurch whether town centre traders like it or not. . The cool reception to this £1m clearly demonstrates how arrogant and out of touch the chamber of commerce is. . As with Waitrose in Wimborne a small number of people may make a lot of noise objecting but they don't respresent the wishes of the majority. And I wonder when the new supermarket opens how many of those opposed to the scheme will actually shop there. BmthNewshound
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8:40am Fri 1 Jun 12

smartymarty says...

How does the camber of trade represent,its not the people who pay their wages.
Let the people of CHRISTCHURCH decide,or is that to easy?
How does the camber of trade represent,its not the people who pay their wages. Let the people of CHRISTCHURCH decide,or is that to easy? smartymarty
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9:07am Fri 1 Jun 12

palexgo says...

I'm not a lover of Boscombe but I shop each week because I can use Aldi & Lidl. Both have had a lot of success with products tested by Which and some products are as much as 70% cheaper than other supermarkets!
I love Christchurch but shopping there is hopeless. Far too many cafes & coffee shops.
I'm not a lover of Boscombe but I shop each week because I can use Aldi & Lidl. Both have had a lot of success with products tested by Which and some products are as much as 70% cheaper than other supermarkets! I love Christchurch but shopping there is hopeless. Far too many cafes & coffee shops. palexgo
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9:08am Fri 1 Jun 12

tinkerten says...

Barrack Road is bad enough without more traffic to Bailey retail park. At least Morrison's would be out of the way and affect less residents, bringing a little competition for Tesco.
Barrack Road is bad enough without more traffic to Bailey retail park. At least Morrison's would be out of the way and affect less residents, bringing a little competition for Tesco. tinkerten
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9:29am Fri 1 Jun 12

damnlion says...

One million sounds like a bribe to me.....
Maybe the Council could spend a small proportion of it building a new Druitt Hall ? ie a COMMUNITY hall for the town centre... the Maryportus scheme encourages community, not just shopping.
One million sounds like a bribe to me..... Maybe the Council could spend a small proportion of it building a new Druitt Hall ? ie a COMMUNITY hall for the town centre... the Maryportus scheme encourages community, not just shopping. damnlion
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9:57am Fri 1 Jun 12

derek_acorah says...

The traders certainly could never be accused of standing in the way of progress. In a short number of years, archiologists will be 're-discovering' Christchurch, probably in the manner of Silchester, and nicking all the stuff they find for the british museum.
The traders certainly could never be accused of standing in the way of progress. In a short number of years, archiologists will be 're-discovering' Christchurch, probably in the manner of Silchester, and nicking all the stuff they find for the british museum. derek_acorah
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10:52am Fri 1 Jun 12

Crank says...

Rediscovering Christchurch archaeology? Too late - it's all been wilfully destroyed. With the full approval of councillors in the full knowledge of what was being destroyed or uninvestigated. It's been a sham.
Rediscovering Christchurch archaeology? Too late - it's all been wilfully destroyed. With the full approval of councillors in the full knowledge of what was being destroyed or uninvestigated. It's been a sham. Crank
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1:28pm Fri 1 Jun 12

geddit says...

As a troll and a nimby, perhaps I could set a few facts down.
Chamber members were worried not about their own businesses but about the town in general. It was the Chamber who asked the developers to contribute to a town centre fund but just last week we had new figures on the impact of these stores (and these are BIG stores) that could not be supported. Imagine Waitrose losing 35% of its main food shopping trade.
OK so you may not like the shops in town, but at least it gives you a choice - which you won't have if the High Street folds - have you seen the state of some of them across the country?

We know there will be supermarket approved and it is not that we don't want one, we would like it IN the town, say on the newly available Police Station site rather than just out of walking distance.

Speaking personally, I would accept the Meteor Park application will be the least damaging and good for Somerford; The Bailey one could on balance be manageable but would need town centre traders to rise to the challenge, But the Stony Lane Morrisons, although no doubt good for the employees of Beagle, would be a disaster for the town centre, for traffic congestion in Purewell and on the bypass.

I bet I know which will be accepted!
As a troll and a nimby, perhaps I could set a few facts down. Chamber members were worried not about their own businesses but about the town in general. It was the Chamber who asked the developers to contribute to a town centre fund but just last week we had new figures on the impact of these stores (and these are BIG stores) that could not be supported. Imagine Waitrose losing 35% of its main food shopping trade. OK so you may not like the shops in town, but at least it gives you a choice - which you won't have if the High Street folds - have you seen the state of some of them across the country? We know there will be supermarket approved and it is not that we don't want one, we would like it IN the town, say on the newly available Police Station site rather than just out of walking distance. Speaking personally, I would accept the Meteor Park application will be the least damaging and good for Somerford; The Bailey one could on balance be manageable but would need town centre traders to rise to the challenge, But the Stony Lane Morrisons, although no doubt good for the employees of Beagle, would be a disaster for the town centre, for traffic congestion in Purewell and on the bypass. I bet I know which will be accepted! geddit
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4:39pm Sun 3 Jun 12

KENROY says...

How out of touch with local peoples views is the Christchurch Chamber of Commerce.
1. they have allowed the town centre to consist of little else but coffee shops and hairdresers
2. most families travel to Castle Point or elsewhere for their shopping because of the lack of competative food shops in christchurch
3. The proposals all have merit Morrisons would bring people & competition to Christchurch and enable Beagles to move to a bigger site adding to employment apart from staff for the supermarket.Quantum will renovate and give access to the river , provide more employment and provide some social housing.Meteor park would provide a more competative shop for those in Somerford whose nearest shop is Sainsbury overpriced and overcrowded across a very busy bypass
How out of touch with local peoples views is the Christchurch Chamber of Commerce. 1. they have allowed the town centre to consist of little else but coffee shops and hairdresers 2. most families travel to Castle Point or elsewhere for their shopping because of the lack of competative food shops in christchurch 3. The proposals all have merit Morrisons would bring people & competition to Christchurch and enable Beagles to move to a bigger site adding to employment apart from staff for the supermarket.Quantum will renovate and give access to the river , provide more employment and provide some social housing.Meteor park would provide a more competative shop for those in Somerford whose nearest shop is Sainsbury overpriced and overcrowded across a very busy bypass KENROY
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5:08pm Tue 5 Jun 12

Deborah111 says...

Both the Morrison and Bailey bridge scheme would bring even more traffic to already over crowded roads. Purewell certainly couldn't cope with more traffic. Within a mile of the town centre there are already 5 supermarkets, why do we need anymore?
Both the Morrison and Bailey bridge scheme would bring even more traffic to already over crowded roads. Purewell certainly couldn't cope with more traffic. Within a mile of the town centre there are already 5 supermarkets, why do we need anymore? Deborah111
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