Warning over Boscombe station costs

REOPENING the former Boscombe railway station in Bournemouth could cost millions of pounds because of the need to provide disabled access with lifts to both tracks and to accommodate trains of 10 carriages.

Mike Holmes, the council’s head of planning and transport, warned Bournemouth and Poole economic overview panel that a similar scheme for Exeter Airport came in at £4-5 million.

Last year, the panel asked for a development brief to be prepared for the land between North Road and the Ashley Road railway bridge, including reference to the possibility of reopening the station.

But members heard that Network Rail did not consider the idea a priority. A report to the panel said: “Before being able to give a firm view... they would wish to undertake a survey to ascertain whether there is a business case for the station.

“In these circumstances, it is difficult to proceed with the preparation of a development brief when one of the key components is unknown.”

The panel asked officers to seek an answer from Network Rail over its plans for the Boscombe site, and to go ahead with the development brief if there is no response within the next six months.

Members also heard there were plans to refurbish Pokesdown Station in time for this year’s air festival and possibly rename it “Pokesdown for Boscombe”.

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10:43am Tue 12 May 09

nigel24 says...

Network Rail has just annouced redundancies so has South West Trains.SWT have also proposed that only two men will be avaliable for Bournemouth Station.I lived in the Station House at Boscombe when the station was operational.Much i love too see it return the rolling stock of today would not accomodate on what is left of the remaining platform
Network Rail has just annouced redundancies so has South West Trains.SWT have also proposed that only two men will be avaliable for Bournemouth Station.I lived in the Station House at Boscombe when the station was operational.Much i love too see it return the rolling stock of today would not accomodate on what is left of the remaining platform nigel24
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10:54am Tue 12 May 09

wayneofafcb says...

Why a lift? There is a road bridge at the end of what would be the platform. Ramps would be available up to this bridge, at a mild incline.
Does Network Rail just quote millions in the hope local councils will pay for the work??They have poured similar cold water on fully reopening the Swanage line.
Does two platforms and a small ticket office really cost more than a million??Could we get a proper break down from Network Rail of cost and an independant contractor.
The traffic in this area is terrible. A station at Boscombe would encourage more people to go to Boscombe, more football fans to use the train, etc etc.
Why a lift? There is a road bridge at the end of what would be the platform. Ramps would be available up to this bridge, at a mild incline. Does Network Rail just quote millions in the hope local councils will pay for the work??They have poured similar cold water on fully reopening the Swanage line. Does two platforms and a small ticket office really cost more than a million??Could we get a proper break down from Network Rail of cost and an independant contractor. The traffic in this area is terrible. A station at Boscombe would encourage more people to go to Boscombe, more football fans to use the train, etc etc. wayneofafcb
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10:55am Tue 12 May 09

Nickolai says...

Surely as part of the re-generation of Boscombe a new station should be included ?
Also, what about Green issues and the supposed desire to get more people using public transport ? A new station here would be ideal - of course, do the powers that be really want us to use public transport more > Or is it just waffle ?
Surely as part of the re-generation of Boscombe a new station should be included ? Also, what about Green issues and the supposed desire to get more people using public transport ? A new station here would be ideal - of course, do the powers that be really want us to use public transport more > Or is it just waffle ? Nickolai
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11:01am Tue 12 May 09

John T says...

'Pokesdown for Boscombe'.
What an appropriate sign!!
'Pokesdown for Boscombe'. What an appropriate sign!! John T
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11:34am Tue 12 May 09

beachhut says...

With the commencement of a land train from the Surf Reef to Boscombe town centre soon to start this could connect the station to the beach. If we can blow hugh sums on a reef at least we could recoup some of the cash by making the area more accessible to non car owners and day trippers.
Also, why would you need lifts? I am sure a new station could be built at platform level with out the need to make it a two storey structure.
With the commencement of a land train from the Surf Reef to Boscombe town centre soon to start this could connect the station to the beach. If we can blow hugh sums on a reef at least we could recoup some of the cash by making the area more accessible to non car owners and day trippers. Also, why would you need lifts? I am sure a new station could be built at platform level with out the need to make it a two storey structure. beachhut
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11:43am Tue 12 May 09

BourneRed says...

Big IF here, but IF Boscombe station was given the go ahead, would Pokesdown station remain open?
Big IF here, but IF Boscombe station was given the go ahead, would Pokesdown station remain open? BourneRed
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12:10pm Tue 12 May 09

pebble says...

where is boscombe station? Im sorry, but i didnt know there was one.
where is boscombe station? Im sorry, but i didnt know there was one. pebble
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12:15pm Tue 12 May 09

Chris... says...

To use the theory that Boscombe would need to be extended is idiotic. There are many stations, even on that route who do not allow a 10 carriage stock platform. As long as passengers are aware that only so many coaches will stop at Boscombe.

It would be an integral part of the restructure of Boscombe with what is planned at Kings park, and if finished what is going an at the beach.

The reasons the costs are high is because Network Rail do not like working. At high costs they are more than likely to be turned down.

To use the theory that Boscombe would need to be extended is idiotic. There are many stations, even on that route who do not allow a 10 carriage stock platform. As long as passengers are aware that only so many coaches will stop at Boscombe. It would be an integral part of the restructure of Boscombe with what is planned at Kings park, and if finished what is going an at the beach. The reasons the costs are high is because Network Rail do not like working. At high costs they are more than likely to be turned down. Chris...
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12:32pm Tue 12 May 09

pete woodley says...

Chris... wrote:
To use the theory that Boscombe would need to be extended is idiotic. There are many stations, even on that route who do not allow a 10 carriage stock platform. As long as passengers are aware that only so many coaches will stop at Boscombe.

It would be an integral part of the restructure of Boscombe with what is planned at Kings park, and if finished what is going an at the beach.

The reasons the costs are high is because Network Rail do not like working. At high costs they are more than likely to be turned down.

Your right there are loads of stations which do not allow 10 coaches.A lot of us used the train in the past to get to dean court.The train was also popular for those wanting to shop in boscombe.
[quote][p][bold]Chris...[/bold] wrote: To use the theory that Boscombe would need to be extended is idiotic. There are many stations, even on that route who do not allow a 10 carriage stock platform. As long as passengers are aware that only so many coaches will stop at Boscombe. It would be an integral part of the restructure of Boscombe with what is planned at Kings park, and if finished what is going an at the beach. The reasons the costs are high is because Network Rail do not like working. At high costs they are more than likely to be turned down. [/p][/quote]Your right there are loads of stations which do not allow 10 coaches.A lot of us used the train in the past to get to dean court.The train was also popular for those wanting to shop in boscombe. pete woodley
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12:33pm Tue 12 May 09

nigel24 says...

pebble wrote:
where is boscombe station? Im sorry, but i didnt know there was one.
Pebbles.Go to Ashley Road bridge in Boscombe,look towards Pokesdown Station if you look down you will see the old remnants of the up and down platform.Admittedly,
there is not a lot to see
[quote][p][bold]pebble[/bold] wrote: where is boscombe station? Im sorry, but i didnt know there was one.[/p][/quote]Pebbles.Go to Ashley Road bridge in Boscombe,look towards Pokesdown Station if you look down you will see the old remnants of the up and down platform.Admittedly, there is not a lot to see nigel24
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12:51pm Tue 12 May 09

pliglet says...

what the hell for? football supporters and shoppers - club nearly extinct and no decent shops. I prefer to go somewhere where I feel less threatened!
what the hell for? football supporters and shoppers - club nearly extinct and no decent shops. I prefer to go somewhere where I feel less threatened! pliglet
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12:58pm Tue 12 May 09

Rikaroony says...

pliglet wrote:
what the hell for? football supporters and shoppers - club nearly extinct and no decent shops. I prefer to go somewhere where I feel less threatened!
And where would,this be? Xchurch? is that not where people get attacked in their own home too?
[quote][p][bold]pliglet[/bold] wrote: what the hell for? football supporters and shoppers - club nearly extinct and no decent shops. I prefer to go somewhere where I feel less threatened![/p][/quote]And where would,this be? Xchurch? is that not where people get attacked in their own home too? Rikaroony
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1:00pm Tue 12 May 09

pliglet says...

worked in Boscombe for 10 years - witnessed loads, felt threatened every day. Lived in Xch 30 yrs+ - never once. speak as I find.
worked in Boscombe for 10 years - witnessed loads, felt threatened every day. Lived in Xch 30 yrs+ - never once. speak as I find. pliglet
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1:21pm Tue 12 May 09

pete woodley says...

pliglet wrote:
worked in Boscombe for 10 years - witnessed loads, felt threatened every day. Lived in Xch 30 yrs+ - never once. speak as I find.
Whats that to do with railway station ?.
[quote][p][bold]pliglet[/bold] wrote: worked in Boscombe for 10 years - witnessed loads, felt threatened every day. Lived in Xch 30 yrs+ - never once. speak as I find. [/p][/quote]Whats that to do with railway station ?. pete woodley
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1:24pm Tue 12 May 09

manana says...

Good idea to refurbish Pokesdown station. Its a really busy station in the mornings and evenings, but dont rename it. Leave it as Pokesdown. Personally I dont think Boscombe station will get re-built. Too much money involved.
Good idea to refurbish Pokesdown station. Its a really busy station in the mornings and evenings, but dont rename it. Leave it as Pokesdown. Personally I dont think Boscombe station will get re-built. Too much money involved. manana
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2:19pm Tue 12 May 09

PHew says...

Sorry for being cynical...but after the (ongoing) castle lane/castlepoint debacle can we be sure it will cost what they say and bring the benefits that are being trumpeted? I just dont believe the 'powers to be'in these things anymore!! I DO like the idea though....if only!!
Sorry for being cynical...but after the (ongoing) castle lane/castlepoint debacle can we be sure it will cost what they say and bring the benefits that are being trumpeted? I just dont believe the 'powers to be'in these things anymore!! I DO like the idea though....if only!! PHew
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2:24pm Tue 12 May 09

Bob49 says...

A spendid idea that could easily be funded by utilising the old coal yard on the 'car handwash' space. A few hundred luxury half bedroom appartments and part Kings Park school could be converted into rail pods for trainspotters to hire (on a daily basis). Even if we totally miscalculate on the cost we can sell the pods.

But best of all the platforms. These can come from Christchurch or Poole where ever the wartime Mulberry harbours were built. Tow them up the rail line and sink them in place.

All we have to do is remove most of the parking in kings Park and the surrounding roads.

This can easily be done by the building of the new proposed ski jump/cresta run/giant slalom course set for Kings Park. All paid for by the generosity of the developers (such wonderful folk - no wonder so many councillors like to be friends with them).

Trebles all round !



ps I wonder why the signs telling us when the phantom reef is to be completed have now been changed from late August to some time in the future - with a codical of 'if there is enough calm weather'
A spendid idea that could easily be funded by utilising the old coal yard on the 'car handwash' space. A few hundred luxury half bedroom appartments and part Kings Park school could be converted into rail pods for trainspotters to hire (on a daily basis). Even if we totally miscalculate on the cost we can sell the pods. But best of all the platforms. These can come from Christchurch or Poole where ever the wartime Mulberry harbours were built. Tow them up the rail line and sink them in place. All we have to do is remove most of the parking in kings Park and the surrounding roads. This can easily be done by the building of the new proposed ski jump/cresta run/giant slalom course set for Kings Park. All paid for by the generosity of the developers (such wonderful folk - no wonder so many councillors like to be friends with them). Trebles all round ! ps I wonder why the signs telling us when the phantom reef is to be completed have now been changed from late August to some time in the future - with a codical of 'if there is enough calm weather' Bob49
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2:28pm Tue 12 May 09

dartguru says...

pliglet wrote:
worked in Boscombe for 10 years - witnessed loads, felt threatened every day. Lived in Xch 30 yrs+ - never once. speak as I find.
If I've told you a million times ...
[quote][p][bold]pliglet[/bold] wrote: worked in Boscombe for 10 years - witnessed loads, felt threatened every day. Lived in Xch 30 yrs+ - never once. speak as I find. [/p][/quote]If I've told you a million times ... dartguru
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2:53pm Tue 12 May 09

GB1980 says...

I thought the old station building was pulled down last year.
It will need to be completely rebuilt before it can be "reopened".
I thought the old station building was pulled down last year. It will need to be completely rebuilt before it can be "reopened". GB1980
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6:22pm Tue 12 May 09

PokesdownMark says...

just a few questions:

1 who is the Bournemouth and Poole economic overview panel? part of the council?

2 how much of our money was spent on this development brief?

3 how much are they spending on other non-starter development briefs?

just a few questions: 1 who is the Bournemouth and Poole economic overview panel? part of the council? 2 how much of our money was spent on this development brief? 3 how much are they spending on other non-starter development briefs? PokesdownMark
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6:42pm Tue 12 May 09

X Old Bill says...

So Boscombe station, if rebuilt, would need two lifts?

The last time I visited Pokesdown station all four lift doors were welded shut and the winding control gear all appeared to be missing.

Have Network Rail or South West Trains reinstated these lifts recently? Because if any station 'needs' lifts for access then Pokesdown is top of the list.

When are they going to re-open Meyrick Park halt? or Bournemouth West?
So Boscombe station, if rebuilt, would need two lifts? The last time I visited Pokesdown station all four lift doors were welded shut and the winding control gear all appeared to be missing. Have Network Rail or South West Trains reinstated these lifts recently? Because if any station 'needs' lifts for access then Pokesdown is top of the list. When are they going to re-open Meyrick Park halt? or Bournemouth West? X Old Bill
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7:50pm Tue 12 May 09

Frank2988 says...

Surf reef, surfboards & trains do not go together,
Under the National Rail Conditions of Carriage, section Specific Articles, Surfboards,Sailboard
s & Canoes are NOT permitted to be carried, has nobody else realised?
Surf reef, surfboards & trains do not go together, Under the National Rail Conditions of Carriage, section Specific Articles, Surfboards,Sailboard s & Canoes are NOT permitted to be carried, has nobody else realised? Frank2988
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8:47pm Tue 12 May 09

Big Aussie Fib says...

Frank2988 wrote:
Surf reef, surfboards & trains do not go together, Under the National Rail Conditions of Carriage, section Specific Articles, Surfboards,Sailboard s & Canoes are NOT permitted to be carried, has nobody else realised?
What about blow up rubber ings?
[quote][p][bold]Frank2988[/bold] wrote: Surf reef, surfboards & trains do not go together, Under the National Rail Conditions of Carriage, section Specific Articles, Surfboards,Sailboard s & Canoes are NOT permitted to be carried, has nobody else realised?[/p][/quote]What about blow up rubber ings? Big Aussie Fib
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8:47pm Tue 12 May 09

Big Aussie Fib says...

Frank2988 wrote:
Surf reef, surfboards & trains do not go together, Under the National Rail Conditions of Carriage, section Specific Articles, Surfboards,Sailboard s & Canoes are NOT permitted to be carried, has nobody else realised?
What about blow up rubber ings?
[quote][p][bold]Frank2988[/bold] wrote: Surf reef, surfboards & trains do not go together, Under the National Rail Conditions of Carriage, section Specific Articles, Surfboards,Sailboard s & Canoes are NOT permitted to be carried, has nobody else realised?[/p][/quote]What about blow up rubber ings? Big Aussie Fib
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8:51pm Tue 12 May 09

Gary Sherborne says...

someone asked who were the Bournemouth & Poole Economic Overview Panal

Chair Cllr Stanley Watts
Cllr D Borthwick
Cllr M Filer
Cllr R Smith
Cllr J Tricket
Cllr C Rochester
Cllr R Cooper
Cllr I Lancashire
Cllr D Spencer

co-opted reps

Profesor J Fletcher
Mr A Carter
Mr J Morris

when the issue of the disused land known as the old coal yard, (owned by the Merick Estate) was raised at the Boscombe Area Forum the last time two years ago all we were looking for was to make better use of this piece of realestate and the idea of reinstating a rail link was hoisted upon us by local councillors. we have asked the council to use thier powers to compulsory purchase this land as a site for park and ride, affordable work units. Anything other than let it lie ideal and a blot on the landscape. A missed opportunity in the regeneration game
someone asked who were the Bournemouth & Poole Economic Overview Panal Chair Cllr Stanley Watts Cllr D Borthwick Cllr M Filer Cllr R Smith Cllr J Tricket Cllr C Rochester Cllr R Cooper Cllr I Lancashire Cllr D Spencer co-opted reps Profesor J Fletcher Mr A Carter Mr J Morris when the issue of the disused land known as the old coal yard, (owned by the Merick Estate) was raised at the Boscombe Area Forum the last time two years ago all we were looking for was to make better use of this piece of realestate and the idea of reinstating a rail link was hoisted upon us by local councillors. we have asked the council to use thier powers to compulsory purchase this land as a site for park and ride, affordable work units. Anything other than let it lie ideal and a blot on the landscape. A missed opportunity in the regeneration game Gary Sherborne
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8:53pm Tue 12 May 09

GB1980 says...

Why would anyone want to take Surfboards,Sailboard

s & Canoes to an air festival?
The article doesn't mention the surf reef anywhere; that was crowbarred in by the usual suspects who like to try to link all the recent news stories together.

I would imagine that if surfing is to become a big thing in Boscombe someone will open a surf hire shop so people don't have to try to get a surfboard on a train, or even just so people don't have to buy their own.
Why would anyone want to take Surfboards,Sailboard s & Canoes to an air festival? The article doesn't mention the surf reef anywhere; that was crowbarred in by the usual suspects who like to try to link all the recent news stories together. I would imagine that if surfing is to become a big thing in Boscombe someone will open a surf hire shop so people don't have to try to get a surfboard on a train, or even just so people don't have to buy their own. GB1980
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9:34pm Tue 12 May 09

mark.s says...

It may help ease traffic on a match-day at AFC Bournemouth. Other than that don't see many benefits, as much as I'd like it to happen.
It may help ease traffic on a match-day at AFC Bournemouth. Other than that don't see many benefits, as much as I'd like it to happen. mark.s
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10:33pm Tue 12 May 09

arendea says...

Boscombe hasnt needed a station, thats why there isnt one. Why waste the money?
Boscombe hasnt needed a station, thats why there isnt one. Why waste the money? arendea
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9:12am Wed 13 May 09

retired lady says...

From what I've seen most shoppers in Boscombe are low income people who would not be able to afford the fares and OAps who would still use their pass on the bus. Spend the money on Pokesdown station, it's a digrace.
From what I've seen most shoppers in Boscombe are low income people who would not be able to afford the fares and OAps who would still use their pass on the bus. Spend the money on Pokesdown station, it's a digrace. retired lady
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9:46am Wed 13 May 09

retired lady says...

X Old Bill wrote:
So Boscombe station, if rebuilt, would need two lifts? The last time I visited Pokesdown station all four lift doors were welded shut and the winding control gear all appeared to be missing. Have Network Rail or South West Trains reinstated these lifts recently? Because if any station 'needs' lifts for access then Pokesdown is top of the list. When are they going to re-open Meyrick Park halt? or Bournemouth West?
I used to use Pokesdown every day and when I asked about the lift I was told it was on a list of works to be done and would probably be done in about 25 years!!!!
[quote][p][bold]X Old Bill[/bold] wrote: So Boscombe station, if rebuilt, would need two lifts? The last time I visited Pokesdown station all four lift doors were welded shut and the winding control gear all appeared to be missing. Have Network Rail or South West Trains reinstated these lifts recently? Because if any station 'needs' lifts for access then Pokesdown is top of the list. When are they going to re-open Meyrick Park halt? or Bournemouth West?[/p][/quote]I used to use Pokesdown every day and when I asked about the lift I was told it was on a list of works to be done and would probably be done in about 25 years!!!! retired lady
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9:49am Wed 13 May 09

John T says...

Gary Sherborne wrote:
someone asked who were the Bournemouth & Poole Economic Overview Panal Chair Cllr Stanley Watts Cllr D Borthwick Cllr M Filer Cllr R Smith Cllr J Tricket Cllr C Rochester Cllr R Cooper Cllr I Lancashire Cllr D Spencer co-opted reps Profesor J Fletcher Mr A Carter Mr J Morris when the issue of the disused land known as the old coal yard, (owned by the Merick Estate) was raised at the Boscombe Area Forum the last time two years ago all we were looking for was to make better use of this piece of realestate and the idea of reinstating a rail link was hoisted upon us by local councillors. we have asked the council to use thier powers to compulsory purchase this land as a site for park and ride, affordable work units. Anything other than let it lie ideal and a blot on the landscape. A missed opportunity in the regeneration game
I don't see the name of one Poole Councillor on this list of Bournemouth and POOLE Economic Overview Panel members.
It would be nice to have confirmed that Poole's Tory Councillors have been ignored in the same way as they ignore their electorate!
[quote][p][bold]Gary Sherborne[/bold] wrote: someone asked who were the Bournemouth & Poole Economic Overview Panal Chair Cllr Stanley Watts Cllr D Borthwick Cllr M Filer Cllr R Smith Cllr J Tricket Cllr C Rochester Cllr R Cooper Cllr I Lancashire Cllr D Spencer co-opted reps Profesor J Fletcher Mr A Carter Mr J Morris when the issue of the disused land known as the old coal yard, (owned by the Merick Estate) was raised at the Boscombe Area Forum the last time two years ago all we were looking for was to make better use of this piece of realestate and the idea of reinstating a rail link was hoisted upon us by local councillors. we have asked the council to use thier powers to compulsory purchase this land as a site for park and ride, affordable work units. Anything other than let it lie ideal and a blot on the landscape. A missed opportunity in the regeneration game[/p][/quote]I don't see the name of one Poole Councillor on this list of Bournemouth and POOLE Economic Overview Panel members. It would be nice to have confirmed that Poole's Tory Councillors have been ignored in the same way as they ignore their electorate! John T
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2:34pm Wed 13 May 09

Binky says...

Disabled access needn't mean lifts. A simple footbridge using ramps instead of steps. Far less maintainance, too.
It would do a great deal for the re-generation of Boscombe to have a working station. Don't forget this proposed ice-rink in King's Park would benefit from railway access, as would the surf-reef. Dean Court would also benefit - there are concerts held there sometimes as well (Elton John a couple of years ago, which generated huge crowds of visitors). If the platform doesn't fit ten carriages, no problem - just inform passengers to travel at one end of the train, and don't open the doors at Boscombe. It's hardly rocket science.
Disabled access needn't mean lifts. A simple footbridge using ramps instead of steps. Far less maintainance, too. It would do a great deal for the re-generation of Boscombe to have a working station. Don't forget this proposed ice-rink in King's Park would benefit from railway access, as would the surf-reef. Dean Court would also benefit - there are concerts held there sometimes as well (Elton John a couple of years ago, which generated huge crowds of visitors). If the platform doesn't fit ten carriages, no problem - just inform passengers to travel at one end of the train, and don't open the doors at Boscombe. It's hardly rocket science. Binky
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12:42pm Wed 3 Jun 09

shawng says...

Nigel24 who lived at the station house do you have any photos from your days living there as want to build a layout of boscombe station and am just very interested thanks i think its mad wouldnt cost half of what they say you have good access to both sides of the track cant see why you need fancy lifts crazy they just don't want to pay for it i would love the station to re open and i would use it too
Nigel24 who lived at the station house do you have any photos from your days living there as want to build a layout of boscombe station and am just very interested thanks i think its mad wouldnt cost half of what they say you have good access to both sides of the track cant see why you need fancy lifts crazy they just don't want to pay for it i would love the station to re open and i would use it too shawng
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