Sweltering: the family who can’t stand the hot weather because they can’t open their windows

Sweltering: the family who can’t stand the hot weather because they can’t open their windows

STIFLED: The Mason family, who have had to endure hot temperatures in their flat due to renovation works.

HOME: The block of flats where they live

First published in News by

A Poole family has been enduring sweltering temperatures of up to 32 degrees in their flat, unable to open any windows due to external works.

Andrew Mason told the Echo his home had effectively been turned into a greenhouse during the hot spell – leaving he and wife Anne-Marie and three young children “dripping in sweat day and night”.

Not only are they unable to open windows due to potentially hazardous dusts and construction lifts operating outside during the £7m refurbishment works on the tower block, but also large glass doors have been installed in their living room, which intensify the heat and are completely unusable as the balcony remains incomplete.

The sales and marketing executive said: “It’s just turning the place into a greenhouse with no air circulation. One day it was up to 32 degrees at 9pm and first thing in the morning it was 29 degrees.

“My wife has been in tears the heat is so stifling – it’s practically unbearable.

“We are not the only ones suffering – some people have opened their windows despite being told not to and had them broken by the construction lifts coming down. One lady was taken in an ambulance with heat exhaustion.”

He said the children, aged six, two and 10 months were struggling.

Anne-Marie added: “I want to protect the children – but it is almost unbearable. I strip them down to a nappy but they are still really uncomfortable – grizzly and miserable.

“I feel like grabbing a hammer and smashing the thing down just to let the air in.

“It’s caused a lot of emotional stress and while we have approached PHP they don’t seem to care.”

Andrew added: “If you left a child stuck in a car at those temperatures you’d be prosecuted.”

Among the advice given to them was to keep their windows wide open at night – something they said they wouldn’t even consider living on the fifth floor with a climbing toddler.

FANS OFFERED

A PHP spokesman told the Daily Echo that all residents, including Mr Mason, had been offered fans to help ventilate their homes during the current hot weather.

He added that during the refurbishment works, residents have been asked not to open their windows between 8am to 6pm during the week.

PHP also says they will continue to provide health and safety advice to every resident “to help mitigate the effects of the hot weather, and we are aware of the potential risk of overheating – in particular to the young and the elderly”.

The spokesman added: “We have offered to provide more fans to help Mr Mason cool his home.

“As he is a private tenant living in a leasehold property, we are also liaising with his landlord to explore a solution which may be more appropriate to his circumstances.”

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6:42am Fri 1 Aug 14

Huey says...

Very sad to see no one in the photo has their arms crossed.
Standards really are slipping.
Very sad to see no one in the photo has their arms crossed. Standards really are slipping. Huey
  • Score: 70

6:58am Fri 1 Aug 14

kalebmoledirt says...

An air conditioning unit would have prevented .sending the work experience girl out in the hot weather .must have been awful having another sweaty person in there
An air conditioning unit would have prevented .sending the work experience girl out in the hot weather .must have been awful having another sweaty person in there kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 44

7:39am Fri 1 Aug 14

itsneverblackorwhite says...

PHP has a duty of care to its residents to re-house them in the event of major building works likely to cause suffering.
PHP has a duty of care to its residents to re-house them in the event of major building works likely to cause suffering. itsneverblackorwhite
  • Score: -24

7:41am Fri 1 Aug 14

Lord Spring says...

Draw your curtains that would be a start to reduce the heat indoors if no curtains get some Coolglass and coat the windows, that's what gardeners do with greenhouses.
Draw your curtains that would be a start to reduce the heat indoors if no curtains get some Coolglass and coat the windows, that's what gardeners do with greenhouses. Lord Spring
  • Score: 63

7:45am Fri 1 Aug 14

SympatheticSam says...

Or don't stay inside.
Or don't stay inside. SympatheticSam
  • Score: 49

7:58am Fri 1 Aug 14

crazybird says...

I suppose they'll be wanting compensation of some sort. Quit moaning - we've all had to put up with the hot weather lately and if you open your windows you are just going to let more hot air in. If you keep windows, curtains/blinds closed and fans on the air will be cooler. It's actually common sense but hey, we didn't all get blessed with that.
I suppose they'll be wanting compensation of some sort. Quit moaning - we've all had to put up with the hot weather lately and if you open your windows you are just going to let more hot air in. If you keep windows, curtains/blinds closed and fans on the air will be cooler. It's actually common sense but hey, we didn't all get blessed with that. crazybird
  • Score: 57

8:02am Fri 1 Aug 14

ben111 says...

I expect those starving kids in Africa, Are weaping into their hands, What is the world coming to
I expect those starving kids in Africa, Are weaping into their hands, What is the world coming to ben111
  • Score: 44

8:25am Fri 1 Aug 14

Quakers2 says...

As the weather is so nice get the little ones out doors doing something healthy rather than cooping them up in a noisy, hot cramped flat or is that not the real motive behind this story? PHP are doing the best for residents but do not have lots of empty houses lying around unoccupied. Me thinks this family dont like this flat and are trying to bully PHP into giving them a nice 4 bed in Sandbanks. Why is it when people cant get what they want from the council their immediate reaction is to tell the Echo. What do they expect to happen? Oh know, please dont, we'll do anything you ask for. Sadly its more a case of go on then make yourself look stupid and unable to think for yourselves - like this family. Get over it and be grateful
As the weather is so nice get the little ones out doors doing something healthy rather than cooping them up in a noisy, hot cramped flat or is that not the real motive behind this story? PHP are doing the best for residents but do not have lots of empty houses lying around unoccupied. Me thinks this family dont like this flat and are trying to bully PHP into giving them a nice 4 bed in Sandbanks. Why is it when people cant get what they want from the council their immediate reaction is to tell the Echo. What do they expect to happen? Oh know, please dont, we'll do anything you ask for. Sadly its more a case of go on then make yourself look stupid and unable to think for yourselves - like this family. Get over it and be grateful Quakers2
  • Score: 48

8:33am Fri 1 Aug 14

burgerboy says...

Next weeks echo story will be them moaning about the cost of running the fans.
I cant see it's PHP's responsibility to supply fans,the private landlord could supply a portable aircon unit.
Next weeks echo story will be them moaning about the cost of running the fans. I cant see it's PHP's responsibility to supply fans,the private landlord could supply a portable aircon unit. burgerboy
  • Score: 59

8:34am Fri 1 Aug 14

Mejulie1967 says...

You should never have a fan going without a window open in hot weather. It acts like a fan oven and can be dangerous. It must be difficult for them and you can't make children sleep outside at night. I would get the landlord to hire a portable air-conditioning unit.
You should never have a fan going without a window open in hot weather. It acts like a fan oven and can be dangerous. It must be difficult for them and you can't make children sleep outside at night. I would get the landlord to hire a portable air-conditioning unit. Mejulie1967
  • Score: 30

8:37am Fri 1 Aug 14

Treadmill says...

First world problems
First world problems Treadmill
  • Score: 26

8:41am Fri 1 Aug 14

Controversial But True says...

Go to your landlord - not The Echo!!!!
Go to your landlord - not The Echo!!!! Controversial But True
  • Score: 50

8:50am Fri 1 Aug 14

crazybird says...

Mejulie1967 wrote:
You should never have a fan going without a window open in hot weather. It acts like a fan oven and can be dangerous. It must be difficult for them and you can't make children sleep outside at night. I would get the landlord to hire a portable air-conditioning unit.
Says who? !?!?! Perhaps someone from PHP should go round and hold paper fans to cool them down and maybe feed them some grapes as well. http://www.wikihow.c
om/Cool-Your-Home-Wi
thout-Air-Conditioni
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Try reading this instead of moaning.
[quote][p][bold]Mejulie1967[/bold] wrote: You should never have a fan going without a window open in hot weather. It acts like a fan oven and can be dangerous. It must be difficult for them and you can't make children sleep outside at night. I would get the landlord to hire a portable air-conditioning unit.[/p][/quote]Says who? !?!?! Perhaps someone from PHP should go round and hold paper fans to cool them down and maybe feed them some grapes as well. http://www.wikihow.c om/Cool-Your-Home-Wi thout-Air-Conditioni ng Try reading this instead of moaning. crazybird
  • Score: 23

8:52am Fri 1 Aug 14

MMM444 says...

Another ground breaking news story Echo, PATHETIC,The sales and marketing executive, my heart bleads for them, Go buy an air con unit then, tight fisted attention seeking Moron, your lucky to have a council property, Go hand the keys in then if your sweating lol,, Nah, you wouldn't do that would you, council tax payers money paying for the refurb of them flats, stop whinging you muppet and be grateful you have a home
Another ground breaking news story Echo, PATHETIC,The sales and marketing executive, my heart bleads for them, Go buy an air con unit then, tight fisted attention seeking Moron, your lucky to have a council property, Go hand the keys in then if your sweating lol,, Nah, you wouldn't do that would you, council tax payers money paying for the refurb of them flats, stop whinging you muppet and be grateful you have a home MMM444
  • Score: 51

8:59am Fri 1 Aug 14

iseestupidpeople says...

So they are moaning they are hot at night........but they are allowed their windows open at night but refuse to? How is this even news? They have been provided with fans free if charge for the daytime......try getting out of the flat!
So they are moaning they are hot at night........but they are allowed their windows open at night but refuse to? How is this even news? They have been provided with fans free if charge for the daytime......try getting out of the flat! iseestupidpeople
  • Score: 54

9:12am Fri 1 Aug 14

burgerboy says...

ben111 wrote:
I expect those starving kids in Africa, Are weaping into their hands, What is the world coming to
I didn't quite manage to eat all my fish and chips that I had for tea last night so if you can supply me with an address in Africa to send it to I will put it in the post for them.....
[quote][p][bold]ben111[/bold] wrote: I expect those starving kids in Africa, Are weaping into their hands, What is the world coming to[/p][/quote]I didn't quite manage to eat all my fish and chips that I had for tea last night so if you can supply me with an address in Africa to send it to I will put it in the post for them..... burgerboy
  • Score: 27

9:27am Fri 1 Aug 14

ben111 says...

burgerboy wrote:
ben111 wrote:
I expect those starving kids in Africa, Are weaping into their hands, What is the world coming to
I didn't quite manage to eat all my fish and chips that I had for tea last night so if you can supply me with an address in Africa to send it to I will put it in the post for them.....
Im on it, Back to you soon, please do quote this story in the packaging as im sure it will make them all feel much better !
[quote][p][bold]burgerboy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ben111[/bold] wrote: I expect those starving kids in Africa, Are weaping into their hands, What is the world coming to[/p][/quote]I didn't quite manage to eat all my fish and chips that I had for tea last night so if you can supply me with an address in Africa to send it to I will put it in the post for them.....[/p][/quote]Im on it, Back to you soon, please do quote this story in the packaging as im sure it will make them all feel much better ! ben111
  • Score: 28

9:32am Fri 1 Aug 14

Bmthweather says...

Surely if you have a climbing toddler then you can't open the windows at night anyway regardless of construction works during the day.

I think rather than the construction works being the issue the issue is cramming 2 adults and 3 kids into a 5th floor flat. I really feel for those kids. I blame Andrew for not finding a flat with a garden or a small house where there is the space for the family. I know not everyone can afford that but surely you should think before baby making??
Surely if you have a climbing toddler then you can't open the windows at night anyway regardless of construction works during the day. I think rather than the construction works being the issue the issue is cramming 2 adults and 3 kids into a 5th floor flat. I really feel for those kids. I blame Andrew for not finding a flat with a garden or a small house where there is the space for the family. I know not everyone can afford that but surely you should think before baby making?? Bmthweather
  • Score: 50

9:36am Fri 1 Aug 14

Babybop says...

iseestupidpeople wrote:
So they are moaning they are hot at night........but they are allowed their windows open at night but refuse to? How is this even news? They have been provided with fans free if charge for the daytime......try getting out of the flat!
I never leave my windows open at night as we have a two year old and i worry she could wake up and decide to go climbing. I'm sure if the story was a toddler fell from an unattended window at night, you'd be asking why it was left open and the child unattended!
[quote][p][bold]iseestupidpeople[/bold] wrote: So they are moaning they are hot at night........but they are allowed their windows open at night but refuse to? How is this even news? They have been provided with fans free if charge for the daytime......try getting out of the flat![/p][/quote]I never leave my windows open at night as we have a two year old and i worry she could wake up and decide to go climbing. I'm sure if the story was a toddler fell from an unattended window at night, you'd be asking why it was left open and the child unattended! Babybop
  • Score: -12

9:48am Fri 1 Aug 14

504gld says...

If it was that much of a distress to your family you'd get yourself down B&Q and buy a portable air con unit, is it really to much to ask for people to think for themselves these days?
If it was that much of a distress to your family you'd get yourself down B&Q and buy a portable air con unit, is it really to much to ask for people to think for themselves these days? 504gld
  • Score: 45

9:55am Fri 1 Aug 14

BarrHumbug says...

Babybop wrote:
iseestupidpeople wrote:
So they are moaning they are hot at night........but they are allowed their windows open at night but refuse to? How is this even news? They have been provided with fans free if charge for the daytime......try getting out of the flat!
I never leave my windows open at night as we have a two year old and i worry she could wake up and decide to go climbing. I'm sure if the story was a toddler fell from an unattended window at night, you'd be asking why it was left open and the child unattended!
The windows in a building like that shouldn't be able to open in a way that would allow a child to fall out so I don't understand their argument for not opening them at night?
[quote][p][bold]Babybop[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iseestupidpeople[/bold] wrote: So they are moaning they are hot at night........but they are allowed their windows open at night but refuse to? How is this even news? They have been provided with fans free if charge for the daytime......try getting out of the flat![/p][/quote]I never leave my windows open at night as we have a two year old and i worry she could wake up and decide to go climbing. I'm sure if the story was a toddler fell from an unattended window at night, you'd be asking why it was left open and the child unattended![/p][/quote]The windows in a building like that shouldn't be able to open in a way that would allow a child to fall out so I don't understand their argument for not opening them at night? BarrHumbug
  • Score: 38

10:05am Fri 1 Aug 14

Sir Cliff East says...

I think with an aircon unit it needs to vent out ideally through a pipe through the wall or unideally an open window. Put the kid in a harness and a legth of rope just long enough so it cant reach the window, then open them all night.
I think with an aircon unit it needs to vent out ideally through a pipe through the wall or unideally an open window. Put the kid in a harness and a legth of rope just long enough so it cant reach the window, then open them all night. Sir Cliff East
  • Score: 13

10:13am Fri 1 Aug 14

iseestupidpeople says...

Babybop wrote:
iseestupidpeople wrote:
So they are moaning they are hot at night........but they are allowed their windows open at night but refuse to? How is this even news? They have been provided with fans free if charge for the daytime......try getting out of the flat!
I never leave my windows open at night as we have a two year old and i worry she could wake up and decide to go climbing. I'm sure if the story was a toddler fell from an unattended window at night, you'd be asking why it was left open and the child unattended!
Ok stupid, you miss the point totally!!! I'll explain s...l...o...w...l...
y.....

1) They are whining they are hot at night
2) The story is about them not being able to open their windows due to building work
3) The building work has NOTHING to do with it, it's because they don't WANT to open their windows due to climbing children (can't they use a stairgate and have the windows open in other rooms?)
4) Most of us parents also had climbing children BUT we used our brains and either bought locks to secure the windows half open OR only opened the top windows and made sure there was nothing to climb on in the room. It's not rocket science! Whether in a house or flat it's the same thing regarding the windows!


D'oh
[quote][p][bold]Babybop[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iseestupidpeople[/bold] wrote: So they are moaning they are hot at night........but they are allowed their windows open at night but refuse to? How is this even news? They have been provided with fans free if charge for the daytime......try getting out of the flat![/p][/quote]I never leave my windows open at night as we have a two year old and i worry she could wake up and decide to go climbing. I'm sure if the story was a toddler fell from an unattended window at night, you'd be asking why it was left open and the child unattended![/p][/quote]Ok stupid, you miss the point totally!!! I'll explain s...l...o...w...l... y..... 1) They are whining they are hot at night 2) The story is about them not being able to open their windows due to building work 3) The building work has NOTHING to do with it, it's because they don't WANT to open their windows due to climbing children (can't they use a stairgate and have the windows open in other rooms?) 4) Most of us parents also had climbing children BUT we used our brains and either bought locks to secure the windows half open OR only opened the top windows and made sure there was nothing to climb on in the room. It's not rocket science! Whether in a house or flat it's the same thing regarding the windows! D'oh iseestupidpeople
  • Score: 44

10:49am Fri 1 Aug 14

tedfarrell says...

I work on this project and its typical incorrect reporting. all the windows can be opened and they have a restrictor setting to stop children falling out. its only the new patio doors that are locked until the balcony is finished and safe to use, but there is trickle ventilation.
I work on this project and its typical incorrect reporting. all the windows can be opened and they have a restrictor setting to stop children falling out. its only the new patio doors that are locked until the balcony is finished and safe to use, but there is trickle ventilation. tedfarrell
  • Score: 47

11:01am Fri 1 Aug 14

BarrHumbug says...

tedfarrell wrote:
I work on this project and its typical incorrect reporting. all the windows can be opened and they have a restrictor setting to stop children falling out. its only the new patio doors that are locked until the balcony is finished and safe to use, but there is trickle ventilation.
Well its not totally incorrect reporting

"Among the advice given to them was to keep their windows wide open at night – something they said they wouldn’t even consider living on the fifth floor with a climbing toddler."

They just haven't considered to open a window to realise they do indeed have restrictors on them to stop them opening fully, instead they've sat in the sweltering heat and complained to the Echo instead?
[quote][p][bold]tedfarrell[/bold] wrote: I work on this project and its typical incorrect reporting. all the windows can be opened and they have a restrictor setting to stop children falling out. its only the new patio doors that are locked until the balcony is finished and safe to use, but there is trickle ventilation.[/p][/quote]Well its not totally incorrect reporting "Among the advice given to them was to keep their windows wide open at night – something they said they wouldn’t even consider living on the fifth floor with a climbing toddler." They just haven't considered to open a window to realise they do indeed have restrictors on them to stop them opening fully, instead they've sat in the sweltering heat and complained to the Echo instead? BarrHumbug
  • Score: 25

11:09am Fri 1 Aug 14

dean3020 says...

Huey wrote:
Very sad to see no one in the photo has their arms crossed.
Standards really are slipping.
Yeah they also seem reasonably happy in that photo, possibly due to the fans cooling them down- making this even more of a non-story. Headline should be "Family who were hot now fairly comfortable"
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Very sad to see no one in the photo has their arms crossed. Standards really are slipping.[/p][/quote]Yeah they also seem reasonably happy in that photo, possibly due to the fans cooling them down- making this even more of a non-story. Headline should be "Family who were hot now fairly comfortable" dean3020
  • Score: 23

11:16am Fri 1 Aug 14

MMM444 says...

tedfarrell wrote:
I work on this project and its typical incorrect reporting. all the windows can be opened and they have a restrictor setting to stop children falling out. its only the new patio doors that are locked until the balcony is finished and safe to use, but there is trickle ventilation.
Do us all a favour Ted, give them a good hosing down while your up there in your high vis jacket, safety boots, hard hat, and any other safety gear you may have on sweating your a@se off refurbing there flat.
[quote][p][bold]tedfarrell[/bold] wrote: I work on this project and its typical incorrect reporting. all the windows can be opened and they have a restrictor setting to stop children falling out. its only the new patio doors that are locked until the balcony is finished and safe to use, but there is trickle ventilation.[/p][/quote]Do us all a favour Ted, give them a good hosing down while your up there in your high vis jacket, safety boots, hard hat, and any other safety gear you may have on sweating your a@se off refurbing there flat. MMM444
  • Score: 34

11:29am Fri 1 Aug 14

hamworthygirl says...

Babybop wrote:
iseestupidpeople wrote:
So they are moaning they are hot at night........but they are allowed their windows open at night but refuse to? How is this even news? They have been provided with fans free if charge for the daytime......try getting out of the flat!
I never leave my windows open at night as we have a two year old and i worry she could wake up and decide to go climbing. I'm sure if the story was a toddler fell from an unattended window at night, you'd be asking why it was left open and the child unattended!
My 86 year old father has had a similar scenario to this story , the council are doing works where he lives and hes been told to keep his windows closed during the day. He is managing and has a fan, i advised him to have a large bottle of water and freeze it and place it in front if the fan which would circulate the cold air.
[quote][p][bold]Babybop[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iseestupidpeople[/bold] wrote: So they are moaning they are hot at night........but they are allowed their windows open at night but refuse to? How is this even news? They have been provided with fans free if charge for the daytime......try getting out of the flat![/p][/quote]I never leave my windows open at night as we have a two year old and i worry she could wake up and decide to go climbing. I'm sure if the story was a toddler fell from an unattended window at night, you'd be asking why it was left open and the child unattended![/p][/quote]My 86 year old father has had a similar scenario to this story , the council are doing works where he lives and hes been told to keep his windows closed during the day. He is managing and has a fan, i advised him to have a large bottle of water and freeze it and place it in front if the fan which would circulate the cold air. hamworthygirl
  • Score: 33

11:52am Fri 1 Aug 14

Faith2007 says...

Read it properly. It says rented property not council
Read it properly. It says rented property not council Faith2007
  • Score: 10

12:00pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Bmthweather says...

She could try turning the fan on too...
She could try turning the fan on too... Bmthweather
  • Score: -9

12:03pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Gavin Ward (unemployed) says...

Why does their 6 year old still wear nappies?
Why does their 6 year old still wear nappies? Gavin Ward (unemployed)
  • Score: 32

12:06pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Faith2007 says...

The main point of the story is:

1. Not taking the children out in high temperatures and keeping them indoors away from sun exposure which would cause heat stroke but then being indoors is just as hot. Only difference is you're not exposed to the sun.

2. All residents in the block HAVE been advised to keep windows shut as Windows have been damaged by the shaft lifts going up and down on the blocks which then means getting a £500 bill to replace the windows!

3. Sliding doors have been put in the living rooms of these blocks of flats when previously there was a window you could open which you can't now meaning you don't get any air circulation going through.

4. Windows have been opened on safety latch which gives about 1 inch.
Curtains have been closed too and this lovely family shouldn't have to go out and buy an air conditioning unit as they've never needed one before as they've been able to open a window in the lounge previously!!!!
The main point of the story is: 1. Not taking the children out in high temperatures and keeping them indoors away from sun exposure which would cause heat stroke but then being indoors is just as hot. Only difference is you're not exposed to the sun. 2. All residents in the block HAVE been advised to keep windows shut as Windows have been damaged by the shaft lifts going up and down on the blocks which then means getting a £500 bill to replace the windows! 3. Sliding doors have been put in the living rooms of these blocks of flats when previously there was a window you could open which you can't now meaning you don't get any air circulation going through. 4. Windows have been opened on safety latch which gives about 1 inch. Curtains have been closed too and this lovely family shouldn't have to go out and buy an air conditioning unit as they've never needed one before as they've been able to open a window in the lounge previously!!!! Faith2007
  • Score: -30

12:25pm Fri 1 Aug 14

justsayithowitis says...

Faith2007 wrote:
The main point of the story is:

1. Not taking the children out in high temperatures and keeping them indoors away from sun exposure which would cause heat stroke but then being indoors is just as hot. Only difference is you're not exposed to the sun.

2. All residents in the block HAVE been advised to keep windows shut as Windows have been damaged by the shaft lifts going up and down on the blocks which then means getting a £500 bill to replace the windows!

3. Sliding doors have been put in the living rooms of these blocks of flats when previously there was a window you could open which you can't now meaning you don't get any air circulation going through.

4. Windows have been opened on safety latch which gives about 1 inch.
Curtains have been closed too and this lovely family shouldn't have to go out and buy an air conditioning unit as they've never needed one before as they've been able to open a window in the lounge previously!!!!
Aren't they worried about their climbing 2 year old falling out or do they not move from her side during the day. Also how have they managed at night before as they won't open a window. They have just been given the fans so you can't say that they used them
[quote][p][bold]Faith2007[/bold] wrote: The main point of the story is: 1. Not taking the children out in high temperatures and keeping them indoors away from sun exposure which would cause heat stroke but then being indoors is just as hot. Only difference is you're not exposed to the sun. 2. All residents in the block HAVE been advised to keep windows shut as Windows have been damaged by the shaft lifts going up and down on the blocks which then means getting a £500 bill to replace the windows! 3. Sliding doors have been put in the living rooms of these blocks of flats when previously there was a window you could open which you can't now meaning you don't get any air circulation going through. 4. Windows have been opened on safety latch which gives about 1 inch. Curtains have been closed too and this lovely family shouldn't have to go out and buy an air conditioning unit as they've never needed one before as they've been able to open a window in the lounge previously!!!![/p][/quote]Aren't they worried about their climbing 2 year old falling out or do they not move from her side during the day. Also how have they managed at night before as they won't open a window. They have just been given the fans so you can't say that they used them justsayithowitis
  • Score: 16

12:32pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Faith2007 says...

They have opened windows on safety latch ONLY which is only a 1 inch gap. It hardly gets any air in and the point is the living room doors that cannot be opened to create air flow
They have opened windows on safety latch ONLY which is only a 1 inch gap. It hardly gets any air in and the point is the living room doors that cannot be opened to create air flow Faith2007
  • Score: -14

12:36pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Faith2007 says...

All resident6th ve been told to keep windows closed anyway which states that on the sticker keep moat have put on every persons windows.
So thats 8am-6pm with no air at the hottest time of the day.
Residents have ignored keep moats advice about keeping windows closed which has resulted breakages of windows followed by a £500 bill to replace the broken windows!
All resident6th ve been told to keep windows closed anyway which states that on the sticker keep moat have put on every persons windows. So thats 8am-6pm with no air at the hottest time of the day. Residents have ignored keep moats advice about keeping windows closed which has resulted breakages of windows followed by a £500 bill to replace the broken windows! Faith2007
  • Score: -16

12:37pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Gavin Ward (unemployed) says...

Faith2007 wrote:
The main point of the story is: 1. Not taking the children out in high temperatures and keeping them indoors away from sun exposure which would cause heat stroke but then being indoors is just as hot. Only difference is you're not exposed to the sun. 2. All residents in the block HAVE been advised to keep windows shut as Windows have been damaged by the shaft lifts going up and down on the blocks which then means getting a £500 bill to replace the windows! 3. Sliding doors have been put in the living rooms of these blocks of flats when previously there was a window you could open which you can't now meaning you don't get any air circulation going through. 4. Windows have been opened on safety latch which gives about 1 inch. Curtains have been closed too and this lovely family shouldn't have to go out and buy an air conditioning unit as they've never needed one before as they've been able to open a window in the lounge previously!!!!
...but they can't open windows in any case due to their climbing toddlers. How else do you expect them to ventilate a hot property?
[quote][p][bold]Faith2007[/bold] wrote: The main point of the story is: 1. Not taking the children out in high temperatures and keeping them indoors away from sun exposure which would cause heat stroke but then being indoors is just as hot. Only difference is you're not exposed to the sun. 2. All residents in the block HAVE been advised to keep windows shut as Windows have been damaged by the shaft lifts going up and down on the blocks which then means getting a £500 bill to replace the windows! 3. Sliding doors have been put in the living rooms of these blocks of flats when previously there was a window you could open which you can't now meaning you don't get any air circulation going through. 4. Windows have been opened on safety latch which gives about 1 inch. Curtains have been closed too and this lovely family shouldn't have to go out and buy an air conditioning unit as they've never needed one before as they've been able to open a window in the lounge previously!!!![/p][/quote]...but they can't open windows in any case due to their climbing toddlers. How else do you expect them to ventilate a hot property? Gavin Ward (unemployed)
  • Score: 17

12:39pm Fri 1 Aug 14

crazybird says...

Babybop wrote:
iseestupidpeople wrote:
So they are moaning they are hot at night........but they are allowed their windows open at night but refuse to? How is this even news? They have been provided with fans free if charge for the daytime......try getting out of the flat!
I never leave my windows open at night as we have a two year old and i worry she could wake up and decide to go climbing. I'm sure if the story was a toddler fell from an unattended window at night, you'd be asking why it was left open and the child unattended!
Get some window latch locks - what is wrong with people - oh do the council or housing association have to provide those as well. Perhaps then we can get the NHS to prescribe some common sense for people that seem not to have an ounce of brain between them.
[quote][p][bold]Babybop[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iseestupidpeople[/bold] wrote: So they are moaning they are hot at night........but they are allowed their windows open at night but refuse to? How is this even news? They have been provided with fans free if charge for the daytime......try getting out of the flat![/p][/quote]I never leave my windows open at night as we have a two year old and i worry she could wake up and decide to go climbing. I'm sure if the story was a toddler fell from an unattended window at night, you'd be asking why it was left open and the child unattended![/p][/quote]Get some window latch locks - what is wrong with people - oh do the council or housing association have to provide those as well. Perhaps then we can get the NHS to prescribe some common sense for people that seem not to have an ounce of brain between them. crazybird
  • Score: 18

12:42pm Fri 1 Aug 14

crazybird says...

hamworthygirl wrote:
Babybop wrote:
iseestupidpeople wrote:
So they are moaning they are hot at night........but they are allowed their windows open at night but refuse to? How is this even news? They have been provided with fans free if charge for the daytime......try getting out of the flat!
I never leave my windows open at night as we have a two year old and i worry she could wake up and decide to go climbing. I'm sure if the story was a toddler fell from an unattended window at night, you'd be asking why it was left open and the child unattended!
My 86 year old father has had a similar scenario to this story , the council are doing works where he lives and hes been told to keep his windows closed during the day. He is managing and has a fan, i advised him to have a large bottle of water and freeze it and place it in front if the fan which would circulate the cold air.
Hoorah for common sense - do you have any spare for these people and others like them?
[quote][p][bold]hamworthygirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Babybop[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iseestupidpeople[/bold] wrote: So they are moaning they are hot at night........but they are allowed their windows open at night but refuse to? How is this even news? They have been provided with fans free if charge for the daytime......try getting out of the flat![/p][/quote]I never leave my windows open at night as we have a two year old and i worry she could wake up and decide to go climbing. I'm sure if the story was a toddler fell from an unattended window at night, you'd be asking why it was left open and the child unattended![/p][/quote]My 86 year old father has had a similar scenario to this story , the council are doing works where he lives and hes been told to keep his windows closed during the day. He is managing and has a fan, i advised him to have a large bottle of water and freeze it and place it in front if the fan which would circulate the cold air.[/p][/quote]Hoorah for common sense - do you have any spare for these people and others like them? crazybird
  • Score: 23

12:42pm Fri 1 Aug 14

hashtag01 says...

I live at Sterte and I am also struggling with the heat. The old window opened differently on safety latch offering more airflow. With one room now having no airflow at all it does make it a difficult situatio like with myself but difference is I can open mine wide at night giving some relief.
I know this family who privately rent and are lovely hard working people always willing to offer help to others.
My understanding is that PHP have not offered multiple fans to this family and those fans belong to them in photo.
An air conditioning unit would be the best option and why should they purchase one especially when it won't be required again along with limited store space in these flats.
I can't believe PHP recomend them to leave windows wide open during the night too.
I live at Sterte and I am also struggling with the heat. The old window opened differently on safety latch offering more airflow. With one room now having no airflow at all it does make it a difficult situatio like with myself but difference is I can open mine wide at night giving some relief. I know this family who privately rent and are lovely hard working people always willing to offer help to others. My understanding is that PHP have not offered multiple fans to this family and those fans belong to them in photo. An air conditioning unit would be the best option and why should they purchase one especially when it won't be required again along with limited store space in these flats. I can't believe PHP recomend them to leave windows wide open during the night too. hashtag01
  • Score: -16

12:57pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Faith2007 says...

crazybird wrote:
Babybop wrote:
iseestupidpeople wrote:
So they are moaning they are hot at night........but they are allowed their windows open at night but refuse to? How is this even news? They have been provided with fans free if charge for the daytime......try getting out of the flat!
I never leave my windows open at night as we have a two year old and i worry she could wake up and decide to go climbing. I'm sure if the story was a toddler fell from an unattended window at night, you'd be asking why it was left open and the child unattended!
Get some window latch locks - what is wrong with people - oh do the council or housing association have to provide those as well. Perhaps then we can get the NHS to prescribe some common sense for people that seem not to have an ounce of brain between them.
They already have window latch locks!!!!
[quote][p][bold]crazybird[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Babybop[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iseestupidpeople[/bold] wrote: So they are moaning they are hot at night........but they are allowed their windows open at night but refuse to? How is this even news? They have been provided with fans free if charge for the daytime......try getting out of the flat![/p][/quote]I never leave my windows open at night as we have a two year old and i worry she could wake up and decide to go climbing. I'm sure if the story was a toddler fell from an unattended window at night, you'd be asking why it was left open and the child unattended![/p][/quote]Get some window latch locks - what is wrong with people - oh do the council or housing association have to provide those as well. Perhaps then we can get the NHS to prescribe some common sense for people that seem not to have an ounce of brain between them.[/p][/quote]They already have window latch locks!!!! Faith2007
  • Score: -2

12:58pm Fri 1 Aug 14

justsayithowitis says...

Faith2007 wrote:
They have opened windows on safety latch ONLY which is only a 1 inch gap. It hardly gets any air in and the point is the living room doors that cannot be opened to create air flow
You have lost me I'm afraid. Why can't internal doors be opened
[quote][p][bold]Faith2007[/bold] wrote: They have opened windows on safety latch ONLY which is only a 1 inch gap. It hardly gets any air in and the point is the living room doors that cannot be opened to create air flow[/p][/quote]You have lost me I'm afraid. Why can't internal doors be opened justsayithowitis
  • Score: 7

1:02pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Faith2007 says...

MMM444 wrote:
Another ground breaking news story Echo, PATHETIC,The sales and marketing executive, my heart bleads for them, Go buy an air con unit then, tight fisted attention seeking Moron, your lucky to have a council property, Go hand the keys in then if your sweating lol,, Nah, you wouldn't do that would you, council tax payers money paying for the refurb of them flats, stop whinging you muppet and be grateful you have a home
It's not a council property. It's private rented.
why should they have to fork out for an air con unit when they have been put in this position by PHP. It's THEIR project not those residents.
It is only because they have been put in a position where they have sliding patio doors that they cannot open to let air flow through
[quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: Another ground breaking news story Echo, PATHETIC,The sales and marketing executive, my heart bleads for them, Go buy an air con unit then, tight fisted attention seeking Moron, your lucky to have a council property, Go hand the keys in then if your sweating lol,, Nah, you wouldn't do that would you, council tax payers money paying for the refurb of them flats, stop whinging you muppet and be grateful you have a home[/p][/quote]It's not a council property. It's private rented. why should they have to fork out for an air con unit when they have been put in this position by PHP. It's THEIR project not those residents. It is only because they have been put in a position where they have sliding patio doors that they cannot open to let air flow through Faith2007
  • Score: -20

1:06pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Faith2007 says...

justsayithowitis wrote:
Faith2007 wrote:
They have opened windows on safety latch ONLY which is only a 1 inch gap. It hardly gets any air in and the point is the living room doors that cannot be opened to create air flow
You have lost me I'm afraid. Why can't internal doors be opened
Sliding patio doors have been put in their living room for the new balcony that's being done but because the work is not yet complete till end of the year they cannot open those doors to get the air flowing around.
Before all this work started they had a window they could open in their living room when it was hot weather. I know this as I am a Sterte resident so can empathise especially knowing the set up of the flats
[quote][p][bold]justsayithowitis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Faith2007[/bold] wrote: They have opened windows on safety latch ONLY which is only a 1 inch gap. It hardly gets any air in and the point is the living room doors that cannot be opened to create air flow[/p][/quote]You have lost me I'm afraid. Why can't internal doors be opened[/p][/quote]Sliding patio doors have been put in their living room for the new balcony that's being done but because the work is not yet complete till end of the year they cannot open those doors to get the air flowing around. Before all this work started they had a window they could open in their living room when it was hot weather. I know this as I am a Sterte resident so can empathise especially knowing the set up of the flats Faith2007
  • Score: -15

1:30pm Fri 1 Aug 14

crazybird says...

Faith2007 wrote:
MMM444 wrote:
Another ground breaking news story Echo, PATHETIC,The sales and marketing executive, my heart bleads for them, Go buy an air con unit then, tight fisted attention seeking Moron, your lucky to have a council property, Go hand the keys in then if your sweating lol,, Nah, you wouldn't do that would you, council tax payers money paying for the refurb of them flats, stop whinging you muppet and be grateful you have a home
It's not a council property. It's private rented.
why should they have to fork out for an air con unit when they have been put in this position by PHP. It's THEIR project not those residents.
It is only because they have been put in a position where they have sliding patio doors that they cannot open to let air flow through
Why don't they rent somewhere else then instead of moaning. They should have thought about the type of place they were going to rent before they had three children - it's always going to be an issue not being able to open windows. Besides which, if they can't open a window for fear of one of the children climbing about then how the hell are they going to have the patio door open straight out onto a balcony. Complete non-story and there will not be many people that have any sympathy. Everyone is suffering with the heat, not just them, it's just that the rest of us aren't whinging to the papers about it!
[quote][p][bold]Faith2007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: Another ground breaking news story Echo, PATHETIC,The sales and marketing executive, my heart bleads for them, Go buy an air con unit then, tight fisted attention seeking Moron, your lucky to have a council property, Go hand the keys in then if your sweating lol,, Nah, you wouldn't do that would you, council tax payers money paying for the refurb of them flats, stop whinging you muppet and be grateful you have a home[/p][/quote]It's not a council property. It's private rented. why should they have to fork out for an air con unit when they have been put in this position by PHP. It's THEIR project not those residents. It is only because they have been put in a position where they have sliding patio doors that they cannot open to let air flow through[/p][/quote]Why don't they rent somewhere else then instead of moaning. They should have thought about the type of place they were going to rent before they had three children - it's always going to be an issue not being able to open windows. Besides which, if they can't open a window for fear of one of the children climbing about then how the hell are they going to have the patio door open straight out onto a balcony. Complete non-story and there will not be many people that have any sympathy. Everyone is suffering with the heat, not just them, it's just that the rest of us aren't whinging to the papers about it! crazybird
  • Score: 23

2:12pm Fri 1 Aug 14

MMM444 says...

crazybird wrote:
Faith2007 wrote:
MMM444 wrote:
Another ground breaking news story Echo, PATHETIC,The sales and marketing executive, my heart bleads for them, Go buy an air con unit then, tight fisted attention seeking Moron, your lucky to have a council property, Go hand the keys in then if your sweating lol,, Nah, you wouldn't do that would you, council tax payers money paying for the refurb of them flats, stop whinging you muppet and be grateful you have a home
It's not a council property. It's private rented.
why should they have to fork out for an air con unit when they have been put in this position by PHP. It's THEIR project not those residents.
It is only because they have been put in a position where they have sliding patio doors that they cannot open to let air flow through
Why don't they rent somewhere else then instead of moaning. They should have thought about the type of place they were going to rent before they had three children - it's always going to be an issue not being able to open windows. Besides which, if they can't open a window for fear of one of the children climbing about then how the hell are they going to have the patio door open straight out onto a balcony. Complete non-story and there will not be many people that have any sympathy. Everyone is suffering with the heat, not just them, it's just that the rest of us aren't whinging to the papers about it!
"Anne-Marie added: “I want to protect the children – but it is almost unbearable. I strip them down to a nappy but they are still really uncomfortable – grizzly and miserable. " Im not surprised, it's a home with a garden of there own they need, don't know what floor your on, anything above the ground is no place to bring 3 children up, What the hell your doing there in the first place ???, Go rent a place suitable for bringing up children, how dim are these two
[quote][p][bold]crazybird[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Faith2007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MMM444[/bold] wrote: Another ground breaking news story Echo, PATHETIC,The sales and marketing executive, my heart bleads for them, Go buy an air con unit then, tight fisted attention seeking Moron, your lucky to have a council property, Go hand the keys in then if your sweating lol,, Nah, you wouldn't do that would you, council tax payers money paying for the refurb of them flats, stop whinging you muppet and be grateful you have a home[/p][/quote]It's not a council property. It's private rented. why should they have to fork out for an air con unit when they have been put in this position by PHP. It's THEIR project not those residents. It is only because they have been put in a position where they have sliding patio doors that they cannot open to let air flow through[/p][/quote]Why don't they rent somewhere else then instead of moaning. They should have thought about the type of place they were going to rent before they had three children - it's always going to be an issue not being able to open windows. Besides which, if they can't open a window for fear of one of the children climbing about then how the hell are they going to have the patio door open straight out onto a balcony. Complete non-story and there will not be many people that have any sympathy. Everyone is suffering with the heat, not just them, it's just that the rest of us aren't whinging to the papers about it![/p][/quote]"Anne-Marie added: “I want to protect the children – but it is almost unbearable. I strip them down to a nappy but they are still really uncomfortable – grizzly and miserable. " Im not surprised, it's a home with a garden of there own they need, don't know what floor your on, anything above the ground is no place to bring 3 children up, What the hell your doing there in the first place ???, Go rent a place suitable for bringing up children, how dim are these two MMM444
  • Score: 19

2:59pm Fri 1 Aug 14

O'Reilly says...

Controversial But True wrote:
Go to your landlord - not The Echo!!!!
Exactly......the Echo are as much use as tits on a boar.
[quote][p][bold]Controversial But True[/bold] wrote: Go to your landlord - not The Echo!!!![/p][/quote]Exactly......the Echo are as much use as tits on a boar. O'Reilly
  • Score: 8

3:10pm Fri 1 Aug 14

O'Reilly says...

hashtag01 wrote:
I live at Sterte and I am also struggling with the heat. The old window opened differently on safety latch offering more airflow. With one room now having no airflow at all it does make it a difficult situatio like with myself but difference is I can open mine wide at night giving some relief.
I know this family who privately rent and are lovely hard working people always willing to offer help to others.
My understanding is that PHP have not offered multiple fans to this family and those fans belong to them in photo.
An air conditioning unit would be the best option and why should they purchase one especially when it won't be required again along with limited store space in these flats.
I can't believe PHP recomend them to leave windows wide open during the night too.
You can hire one for the length of time you require it for... POA
[quote][p][bold]hashtag01[/bold] wrote: I live at Sterte and I am also struggling with the heat. The old window opened differently on safety latch offering more airflow. With one room now having no airflow at all it does make it a difficult situatio like with myself but difference is I can open mine wide at night giving some relief. I know this family who privately rent and are lovely hard working people always willing to offer help to others. My understanding is that PHP have not offered multiple fans to this family and those fans belong to them in photo. An air conditioning unit would be the best option and why should they purchase one especially when it won't be required again along with limited store space in these flats. I can't believe PHP recomend them to leave windows wide open during the night too.[/p][/quote]You can hire one for the length of time you require it for... POA O'Reilly
  • Score: 8

3:47pm Fri 1 Aug 14

hashtag01 says...

Sadly I can't afford a air conditioning unit let alone hire one.
Sadly I can't afford a air conditioning unit let alone hire one. hashtag01
  • Score: -6

5:04pm Fri 1 Aug 14

apm1954 says...

Should not of sold them in the first place, just a thought what is the lifspan of such buildings.i suppose they will sream for there money back when they pull them down.
Should not of sold them in the first place, just a thought what is the lifspan of such buildings.i suppose they will sream for there money back when they pull them down. apm1954
  • Score: 5

5:08pm Fri 1 Aug 14

BIGTONE says...

It's more fun if one is suffering from stressed flatulence.
It's more fun if one is suffering from stressed flatulence. BIGTONE
  • Score: 6

6:44pm Fri 1 Aug 14

hashtag01 says...

Today I heard that an elderly couple had to move into a hotel as the heat was too much. The lady suffers with ill health and the heat was making her feel real ill. Just shows that the Mason's family are not the only ones suffering.
Today I heard that an elderly couple had to move into a hotel as the heat was too much. The lady suffers with ill health and the heat was making her feel real ill. Just shows that the Mason's family are not the only ones suffering. hashtag01
  • Score: 6

9:03pm Fri 1 Aug 14

Faith2007 says...

hashtag01 wrote:
Today I heard that an elderly couple had to move into a hotel as the heat was too much. The lady suffers with ill health and the heat was making her feel real ill. Just shows that the Mason's family are not the only ones suffering.
Hmm seems like this family are not the only residents in the block that are suffering.
If it was everyone else's children or themselves having to suffer then they would be the first to complain!
That's the problem tho... because people are not going through it themselves they will never understand!
[quote][p][bold]hashtag01[/bold] wrote: Today I heard that an elderly couple had to move into a hotel as the heat was too much. The lady suffers with ill health and the heat was making her feel real ill. Just shows that the Mason's family are not the only ones suffering.[/p][/quote]Hmm seems like this family are not the only residents in the block that are suffering. If it was everyone else's children or themselves having to suffer then they would be the first to complain! That's the problem tho... because people are not going through it themselves they will never understand! Faith2007
  • Score: -3

1:29am Sat 2 Aug 14

Sir Cliff East says...

Has one of the kids neighbours popped round for tea ?
Has one of the kids neighbours popped round for tea ? Sir Cliff East
  • Score: 6

6:13am Sat 2 Aug 14

Chris@Bmouth says...

Ok....the "blame the building work" argument is completely irrelevant since they refuse to have the window open because of their climbing toddler.
Ok....the "blame the building work" argument is completely irrelevant since they refuse to have the window open because of their climbing toddler. Chris@Bmouth
  • Score: -1

6:17am Sat 2 Aug 14

Chris@Bmouth says...

Mejulie1967 wrote:
You should never have a fan going without a window open in hot weather. It acts like a fan oven and can be dangerous. It must be difficult for them and you can't make children sleep outside at night. I would get the landlord to hire a portable air-conditioning unit.
Must be a UK thing. Never heard such rubbish.
[quote][p][bold]Mejulie1967[/bold] wrote: You should never have a fan going without a window open in hot weather. It acts like a fan oven and can be dangerous. It must be difficult for them and you can't make children sleep outside at night. I would get the landlord to hire a portable air-conditioning unit.[/p][/quote]Must be a UK thing. Never heard such rubbish. Chris@Bmouth
  • Score: 2

8:42am Sat 2 Aug 14

Faith2007 says...

Chris@Bmouth wrote:
Ok....the "blame the building work" argument is completely irrelevant since they refuse to have the window open because of their climbing toddler.
They do have the windows open on security latch even being told they're not supposed to have windows open due to construction work.
I live in the block also and I've heard that residents have ignored it and now have broken windows because of the shaft lifts and are now being billed to replace the windows!
It's a no win situation.
I think the main point of the story is those patio doors not being able to be opened which is stopping air from circulating!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Chris@Bmouth[/bold] wrote: Ok....the "blame the building work" argument is completely irrelevant since they refuse to have the window open because of their climbing toddler.[/p][/quote]They do have the windows open on security latch even being told they're not supposed to have windows open due to construction work. I live in the block also and I've heard that residents have ignored it and now have broken windows because of the shaft lifts and are now being billed to replace the windows! It's a no win situation. I think the main point of the story is those patio doors not being able to be opened which is stopping air from circulating!!!! Faith2007
  • Score: -5

8:43am Sat 2 Aug 14

Faith2007 says...

Sir Cliff East wrote:
Has one of the kids neighbours popped round for tea ?
What's that supposed to mean?
[quote][p][bold]Sir Cliff East[/bold] wrote: Has one of the kids neighbours popped round for tea ?[/p][/quote]What's that supposed to mean? Faith2007
  • Score: -7

9:54am Sat 2 Aug 14

sammmymac says...

Mum can't be that uncomfortable otherwise she wouldn't be wearing thick denim skirt plus black leggings or what looks like high denier tights underneath.
Mum can't be that uncomfortable otherwise she wouldn't be wearing thick denim skirt plus black leggings or what looks like high denier tights underneath. sammmymac
  • Score: 7

10:07am Sat 2 Aug 14

MMM444 says...

sammmymac wrote:
Mum can't be that uncomfortable otherwise she wouldn't be wearing thick denim skirt plus black leggings or what looks like high denier tights underneath.
Blimey, you should of been a detective
[quote][p][bold]sammmymac[/bold] wrote: Mum can't be that uncomfortable otherwise she wouldn't be wearing thick denim skirt plus black leggings or what looks like high denier tights underneath.[/p][/quote]Blimey, you should of been a detective MMM444
  • Score: 7

11:42am Sat 2 Aug 14

justsayithowitis says...

hashtag01 wrote:
Sadly I can't afford a air conditioning unit let alone hire one.
Do a bit of overtime so you can hire one.
[quote][p][bold]hashtag01[/bold] wrote: Sadly I can't afford a air conditioning unit let alone hire one.[/p][/quote]Do a bit of overtime so you can hire one. justsayithowitis
  • Score: 3

12:18pm Sat 2 Aug 14

MMM444 says...

Faith2007 wrote:
Sir Cliff East wrote:
Has one of the kids neighbours popped round for tea ?
What's that supposed to mean?
It means, Has one of the kids neighbours popped round for tea ?, You Know, Jam sandwich and a glass of pop
[quote][p][bold]Faith2007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Cliff East[/bold] wrote: Has one of the kids neighbours popped round for tea ?[/p][/quote]What's that supposed to mean?[/p][/quote]It means, Has one of the kids neighbours popped round for tea ?, You Know, Jam sandwich and a glass of pop MMM444
  • Score: 0

6:56pm Sat 2 Aug 14

bobthedestroyer says...

One family in a block of flats get coverage. What about everyone else
One family in a block of flats get coverage. What about everyone else bobthedestroyer
  • Score: 4

8:13pm Sat 2 Aug 14

bobthedestroyer says...

One family in a block of flats get coverage. What about everyone else?
One family in a block of flats get coverage. What about everyone else? bobthedestroyer
  • Score: 5

10:45pm Sat 2 Aug 14

GGhammy says...

crazybird wrote:
I suppose they'll be wanting compensation of some sort. Quit moaning - we've all had to put up with the hot weather lately and if you open your windows you are just going to let more hot air in. If you keep windows, curtains/blinds closed and fans on the air will be cooler. It's actually common sense but hey, we didn't all get blessed with that.
Yeah, lets keep all windows shut in hot weather so no air or breeze comes into the house; sadly if you apply this apparently stupid notion of closing windows (as some professional people advise) you don't keep the heat out, you keep the heat in and also don't allow any breeze to come in and cool the rooms. Ive tried this clever clogs shutting windows to see if it works, and it doesn't, so like public health england, stop peddling such professional nonsense.
[quote][p][bold]crazybird[/bold] wrote: I suppose they'll be wanting compensation of some sort. Quit moaning - we've all had to put up with the hot weather lately and if you open your windows you are just going to let more hot air in. If you keep windows, curtains/blinds closed and fans on the air will be cooler. It's actually common sense but hey, we didn't all get blessed with that.[/p][/quote]Yeah, lets keep all windows shut in hot weather so no air or breeze comes into the house; sadly if you apply this apparently stupid notion of closing windows (as some professional people advise) you don't keep the heat out, you keep the heat in and also don't allow any breeze to come in and cool the rooms. Ive tried this clever clogs shutting windows to see if it works, and it doesn't, so like public health england, stop peddling such professional nonsense. GGhammy
  • Score: 3

10:04pm Sun 3 Aug 14

The Liberal says...

bobthedestroyer wrote:
One family in a block of flats get coverage. What about everyone else
I wonder why anyone ever goes to the Echo with a story, considering the abuse they're bound to get in these comments sections, inhabited as they are by some of the dregs of humanity. You'd get more sympathy from a bunch of Nazi war criminals.
[quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: One family in a block of flats get coverage. What about everyone else[/p][/quote]I wonder why anyone ever goes to the Echo with a story, considering the abuse they're bound to get in these comments sections, inhabited as they are by some of the dregs of humanity. You'd get more sympathy from a bunch of Nazi war criminals. The Liberal
  • Score: 2

10:16pm Sun 3 Aug 14

The Liberal says...

Faith2007 wrote:
Sir Cliff East wrote:
Has one of the kids neighbours popped round for tea ?
What's that supposed to mean?
Basically, it's a racist slur because one of the kids is black.
[quote][p][bold]Faith2007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Cliff East[/bold] wrote: Has one of the kids neighbours popped round for tea ?[/p][/quote]What's that supposed to mean?[/p][/quote]Basically, it's a racist slur because one of the kids is black. The Liberal
  • Score: 5

7:53pm Tue 5 Aug 14

grumpyolddear says...

BarrHumbug wrote:
Babybop wrote:
iseestupidpeople wrote:
So they are moaning they are hot at night........but they are allowed their windows open at night but refuse to? How is this even news? They have been provided with fans free if charge for the daytime......try getting out of the flat!
I never leave my windows open at night as we have a two year old and i worry she could wake up and decide to go climbing. I'm sure if the story was a toddler fell from an unattended window at night, you'd be asking why it was left open and the child unattended!
The windows in a building like that shouldn't be able to open in a way that would allow a child to fall out so I don't understand their argument for not opening them at night?
Absolutely, regulations state that windows above ground floor level must have window restrictors fitted!
[quote][p][bold]BarrHumbug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Babybop[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iseestupidpeople[/bold] wrote: So they are moaning they are hot at night........but they are allowed their windows open at night but refuse to? How is this even news? They have been provided with fans free if charge for the daytime......try getting out of the flat![/p][/quote]I never leave my windows open at night as we have a two year old and i worry she could wake up and decide to go climbing. I'm sure if the story was a toddler fell from an unattended window at night, you'd be asking why it was left open and the child unattended![/p][/quote]The windows in a building like that shouldn't be able to open in a way that would allow a child to fall out so I don't understand their argument for not opening them at night?[/p][/quote]Absolutely, regulations state that windows above ground floor level must have window restrictors fitted! grumpyolddear
  • Score: 2

7:59pm Tue 5 Aug 14

grumpyolddear says...

iseestupidpeople wrote:
Babybop wrote:
iseestupidpeople wrote:
So they are moaning they are hot at night........but they are allowed their windows open at night but refuse to? How is this even news? They have been provided with fans free if charge for the daytime......try getting out of the flat!
I never leave my windows open at night as we have a two year old and i worry she could wake up and decide to go climbing. I'm sure if the story was a toddler fell from an unattended window at night, you'd be asking why it was left open and the child unattended!
Ok stupid, you miss the point totally!!! I'll explain s...l...o...w...l...

y.....

1) They are whining they are hot at night
2) The story is about them not being able to open their windows due to building work
3) The building work has NOTHING to do with it, it's because they don't WANT to open their windows due to climbing children (can't they use a stairgate and have the windows open in other rooms?)
4) Most of us parents also had climbing children BUT we used our brains and either bought locks to secure the windows half open OR only opened the top windows and made sure there was nothing to climb on in the room. It's not rocket science! Whether in a house or flat it's the same thing regarding the windows!


D'oh
Stair gates are not guaranteed for use with children over 24 months as by this age they have usually worked out: a) how to open them b) how to get over them by climbing or c) moving something else over to use as a step. Stairgates are a delaying tactic not a substitute for adult supervision
[quote][p][bold]iseestupidpeople[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Babybop[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]iseestupidpeople[/bold] wrote: So they are moaning they are hot at night........but they are allowed their windows open at night but refuse to? How is this even news? They have been provided with fans free if charge for the daytime......try getting out of the flat![/p][/quote]I never leave my windows open at night as we have a two year old and i worry she could wake up and decide to go climbing. I'm sure if the story was a toddler fell from an unattended window at night, you'd be asking why it was left open and the child unattended![/p][/quote]Ok stupid, you miss the point totally!!! I'll explain s...l...o...w...l... y..... 1) They are whining they are hot at night 2) The story is about them not being able to open their windows due to building work 3) The building work has NOTHING to do with it, it's because they don't WANT to open their windows due to climbing children (can't they use a stairgate and have the windows open in other rooms?) 4) Most of us parents also had climbing children BUT we used our brains and either bought locks to secure the windows half open OR only opened the top windows and made sure there was nothing to climb on in the room. It's not rocket science! Whether in a house or flat it's the same thing regarding the windows! D'oh[/p][/quote]Stair gates are not guaranteed for use with children over 24 months as by this age they have usually worked out: a) how to open them b) how to get over them by climbing or c) moving something else over to use as a step. Stairgates are a delaying tactic not a substitute for adult supervision grumpyolddear
  • Score: 1

8:15pm Tue 5 Aug 14

grumpyolddear says...

If the issue is that patio doors have now been fitted, meaning there are no windows in the main room which can be safely opened. It seems this will continue to be a problem even when the balconies are completed as the toddler will be able to access the bacony if the patio doors are opened... Is there some way of ensuring the balcony is child friendly?
If the issue is that patio doors have now been fitted, meaning there are no windows in the main room which can be safely opened. It seems this will continue to be a problem even when the balconies are completed as the toddler will be able to access the bacony if the patio doors are opened... Is there some way of ensuring the balcony is child friendly? grumpyolddear
  • Score: 2

11:33pm Tue 5 Aug 14

hashtag01 says...

grumpyolddear wrote:
If the issue is that patio doors have now been fitted, meaning there are no windows in the main room which can be safely opened. It seems this will continue to be a problem even when the balconies are completed as the toddler will be able to access the bacony if the patio doors are opened... Is there some way of ensuring the balcony is child friendly?
The balconies will be inclosed with consitina windows which I understand will have child safety latches also. Currently we all have new patio doors that have a tiny trickle of airflow which in the high temps last month made a livable situation unbearable as the glass intensified the heat. I can understand and empathise what this family have experienced especially hearing that a 10 month old baby has had to suffer due to the current construction work. My asthma has been effected by this heat caused by a sever lack of air and something that would normally not effect me at this time of year. Air conditioning unit would be best as my one fan is useless but you would need one in every room for a larger family unless you all sleep in same room.
[quote][p][bold]grumpyolddear[/bold] wrote: If the issue is that patio doors have now been fitted, meaning there are no windows in the main room which can be safely opened. It seems this will continue to be a problem even when the balconies are completed as the toddler will be able to access the bacony if the patio doors are opened... Is there some way of ensuring the balcony is child friendly?[/p][/quote]The balconies will be inclosed with consitina windows which I understand will have child safety latches also. Currently we all have new patio doors that have a tiny trickle of airflow which in the high temps last month made a livable situation unbearable as the glass intensified the heat. I can understand and empathise what this family have experienced especially hearing that a 10 month old baby has had to suffer due to the current construction work. My asthma has been effected by this heat caused by a sever lack of air and something that would normally not effect me at this time of year. Air conditioning unit would be best as my one fan is useless but you would need one in every room for a larger family unless you all sleep in same room. hashtag01
  • Score: 1

3:15pm Thu 7 Aug 14

boyerboy says...

Look forward to the day when:

no moronic stories such as this
no Traveller reports
no photos with crossed arms
no stories re Seven .....



One day, perhaps one day.
Look forward to the day when: no moronic stories such as this no Traveller reports no photos with crossed arms no stories re Seven ..... One day, perhaps one day. boyerboy
  • Score: 1

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