Travellers set up camp on Slades Farm, Bournemouth

Travellers camped at Slades Farm

Travellers camped at Slades Farm

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A GROUP of travellers have set up camp at a popular recreation ground in Bournemouth over the weekend.

Around a dozen caravans and campervans arrived at Slades Farm in Ensbury Park on Friday evening.

It’s thought a metal chain used to secure the gate to the playing field was removed, a height restrictor was damaged and a boulder moved.

The council is due to apply for an eviction order to remove the travellers today.

Bournemouth Borough councillor Susan Phillips, ward member for Wallisdown and Winton West, said: “The officer from the town hall has been in touch with me and he said he will be at the courts first thing.”

Security teams from Bournemouth Borough Council have been positioned at the site since Saturday morning to prevent further vehicles entering the ground.

Cllr Phillips added: “Slades Farm is a beautiful area and it has been so improved over the last two to three years. The pleasure of it is being marred by the presence of the travellers.”

Local residents said the group arrived at around 10pm on Friday and entered the ground with headlights turned off.

One resident, who asked not to be named, said: “It was like a fanfare when the lights and generator went on.

“We’ve just had a residents’ meeting and everybody is really scared.”

Her 22-year-old daughter added: “We bring the dogs up here every day but we won’t be doing that now.”

Cllr Lawrence Williams, Bournemouth council’s cabinet member for tourism and leisure, said the incursion meant “more disruption to local residents”.

The council would be going to court to have the travellers evicted as soon as possible, he added.

It is not clear whether the travellers at Slades Farm were among those who were playing cat and mouse with council officials in Poole last week.

On Friday, a camp pulled onto Branksome's Beach Road car park, hours before an eviction notice would have forced them to leave Baiter Park.

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10:53am Sat 26 Jul 14

sea poole says...

Don't the 4x4s have number plates? Wouldn't it have been easy to check those...? The police could play a significant part in tracking movements. After all the police vans were frequent visitors to Baiter...just driving by!
Don't the 4x4s have number plates? Wouldn't it have been easy to check those...? The police could play a significant part in tracking movements. After all the police vans were frequent visitors to Baiter...just driving by! sea poole
  • Score: 55

10:57am Sat 26 Jul 14

Minty Fresh says...

Hilarious!
What are the Council actually doing to stop these nomadic parasites pitching up on our open spaces? Very little it would seem. Just like this pathetic excuse for a newspaper, and it's totally anonymous Editor, when it comes to lobbying politicians etc for a law change that would see these undesirables brought to book for their criminal behaviour.
I have a serious question though, why can't the courts state that an eviction order stands for ALL Council/public open spaces in the local area? That way surely the Police would have the power to move on/arrest them immediately? Or does that solution require too much common sense?
Hilarious! What are the Council actually doing to stop these nomadic parasites pitching up on our open spaces? Very little it would seem. Just like this pathetic excuse for a newspaper, and it's totally anonymous Editor, when it comes to lobbying politicians etc for a law change that would see these undesirables brought to book for their criminal behaviour. I have a serious question though, why can't the courts state that an eviction order stands for ALL Council/public open spaces in the local area? That way surely the Police would have the power to move on/arrest them immediately? Or does that solution require too much common sense? Minty Fresh
  • Score: 96

10:59am Sat 26 Jul 14

Rasta dude says...

Here we go again,why don't the council block these spaces off'one less place for our kids to play, why do I pay so much council tax for such a rubbish service or is it because it's not in a tourist area????
Here we go again,why don't the council block these spaces off'one less place for our kids to play, why do I pay so much council tax for such a rubbish service or is it because it's not in a tourist area???? Rasta dude
  • Score: 51

11:11am Sat 26 Jul 14

alasdair1967 says...

Year in year out it is the same game of cat and mouse the same locations the same time of year and I don't care what any one else says the problem disappears when the steam fair opens !
Year in year out it is the same game of cat and mouse the same locations the same time of year and I don't care what any one else says the problem disappears when the steam fair opens ! alasdair1967
  • Score: 43

11:13am Sat 26 Jul 14

Bournemouth Ohec says...

As I've said before , keep them there and send in HMRC, DVLA, TV Licencing and all the other agencies that we are accountable to, and let them check them out.
As I've said before , keep them there and send in HMRC, DVLA, TV Licencing and all the other agencies that we are accountable to, and let them check them out. Bournemouth Ohec
  • Score: 74

11:38am Sat 26 Jul 14

MCAME1989 says...

If us normal people parked our cars here we would get all sorts of tickets and fines!
Never mind a wheel clamp or towed away!

Doesn't bare thinking about what would happen if we took or caravans or mobile homes and parked there!
We would be punished to the max!
If us normal people parked our cars here we would get all sorts of tickets and fines! Never mind a wheel clamp or towed away! Doesn't bare thinking about what would happen if we took or caravans or mobile homes and parked there! We would be punished to the max! MCAME1989
  • Score: 54

11:44am Sat 26 Jul 14

sollie says...

Why not use Poole council CCTV car to keep tabs on these.vehicles It is not being used now the schools are out.
Why not use Poole council CCTV car to keep tabs on these.vehicles It is not being used now the schools are out. sollie
  • Score: 25

11:45am Sat 26 Jul 14

Aviewoneverything says...

Once again everyone whining on here as usual, writing the same old comments..."free parking, free camping, check their tax, we pay our taxes, bla bla bla"
Why don't you try being a bit more pro active. Email Connor Burns MP or Tobias Elwood MP and make your voices heard, after all you put them in the commons, now make them work for you. Failing that, write to the PM directly and express your annoyance.
Personally I think if we made an alliance of local people, we could all turn up and start pitching tents in exactly the same spot as these travellers. You know the old phrase, if you can't beat them, join them! Maybe we could annoy them enough to not come back.
If you live in the Slades Farm area and have people turn up on your door asking if you want metal removed or building work done, DO NOT GIVE THEM THE WORK.
Once again everyone whining on here as usual, writing the same old comments..."free parking, free camping, check their tax, we pay our taxes, bla bla bla" Why don't you try being a bit more pro active. Email Connor Burns MP or Tobias Elwood MP and make your voices heard, after all you put them in the commons, now make them work for you. Failing that, write to the PM directly and express your annoyance. Personally I think if we made an alliance of local people, we could all turn up and start pitching tents in exactly the same spot as these travellers. You know the old phrase, if you can't beat them, join them! Maybe we could annoy them enough to not come back. If you live in the Slades Farm area and have people turn up on your door asking if you want metal removed or building work done, DO NOT GIVE THEM THE WORK. Aviewoneverything
  • Score: 60

11:50am Sat 26 Jul 14

sea poole says...

aviewoneverything -notice you didn't include the MP for Poole in your list of MPs- can totally understand why -he's only interested when it's election time...oh, that's next year -someone should wake him up!
aviewoneverything -notice you didn't include the MP for Poole in your list of MPs- can totally understand why -he's only interested when it's election time...oh, that's next year -someone should wake him up! sea poole
  • Score: 26

11:59am Sat 26 Jul 14

Aviewoneverything says...

To be fair sea poole, the MP's in Bournemouth aren't much more effective unless it provides a good photo opportunity for their monthly newsletter. However, it is really the only means we have of getting issues like this discussed at a national level which is what needs to happen. No matter how much we berate the councils, without a transit site their hands are pretty much tied due to existing legislation...and the travellers know this.
All we can do is make their stay in our town as unpleasant as possible, whilst remaining lawful ourselves, and hope they choose not to return.
These people need money to live just as much as the rest of us so if we deprive them of work in our areas they will have to seek 'employment' elsewhere.
MP contacts for those who want to email their concerns:
conor.burns.mp@parli
ament.uk
tobias.ellwood.mp@pa
rliament.uk

Do your part as a member of society, get involved in politics and have your voice heard.
To be fair sea poole, the MP's in Bournemouth aren't much more effective unless it provides a good photo opportunity for their monthly newsletter. However, it is really the only means we have of getting issues like this discussed at a national level which is what needs to happen. No matter how much we berate the councils, without a transit site their hands are pretty much tied due to existing legislation...and the travellers know this. All we can do is make their stay in our town as unpleasant as possible, whilst remaining lawful ourselves, and hope they choose not to return. These people need money to live just as much as the rest of us so if we deprive them of work in our areas they will have to seek 'employment' elsewhere. MP contacts for those who want to email their concerns: conor.burns.mp@parli ament.uk tobias.ellwood.mp@pa rliament.uk Do your part as a member of society, get involved in politics and have your voice heard. Aviewoneverything
  • Score: 19

12:27pm Sat 26 Jul 14

Minty Fresh says...

sollie wrote:
Why not use Poole council CCTV car to keep tabs on these.vehicles It is not being used now the schools are out.
I do hope your comment was sarcastic!
As that Scamera car is out all day long patrolling all the double yellow lines the Council have slapped everywhere for revenue generation purposes.
[quote][p][bold]sollie[/bold] wrote: Why not use Poole council CCTV car to keep tabs on these.vehicles It is not being used now the schools are out.[/p][/quote]I do hope your comment was sarcastic! As that Scamera car is out all day long patrolling all the double yellow lines the Council have slapped everywhere for revenue generation purposes. Minty Fresh
  • Score: 13

12:34pm Sat 26 Jul 14

BigAlfromsunnyBournemouth says...

Years ago there was always a magistrate the police could call on to sign orders 24/7.
Years ago there was always a magistrate the police could call on to sign orders 24/7. BigAlfromsunnyBournemouth
  • Score: 28

12:37pm Sat 26 Jul 14

Townee says...

Bournemouth Ohec wrote:
As I've said before , keep them there and send in HMRC, DVLA, TV Licencing and all the other agencies that we are accountable to, and let them check them out.
What has these agencies got to do with Irish travellers? They are the same as any foreigner who brings a car to this area they don't pay road fund licence, TV licence and wouldn't pay tax in UK.
What we need is a blanket band on them from the courts to stop them camping anywhere in Dorset, fine them if they do park up in cash or impound their vans until they pay up. This would happen to us so should it apply to them.
[quote][p][bold]Bournemouth Ohec[/bold] wrote: As I've said before , keep them there and send in HMRC, DVLA, TV Licencing and all the other agencies that we are accountable to, and let them check them out.[/p][/quote]What has these agencies got to do with Irish travellers? They are the same as any foreigner who brings a car to this area they don't pay road fund licence, TV licence and wouldn't pay tax in UK. What we need is a blanket band on them from the courts to stop them camping anywhere in Dorset, fine them if they do park up in cash or impound their vans until they pay up. This would happen to us so should it apply to them. Townee
  • Score: 24

12:39pm Sat 26 Jul 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Would said hey are travellers .ow do you know
Would said hey are travellers .ow do you know kalebmoledirt
  • Score: -19

1:16pm Sat 26 Jul 14

Wallisdown says...

Well there are right opposite my house and I've already had one knock on the door asking to sharpen knives! Given they damaged council property by cutting chains and dragging a one tonne+ boulder out the way surely they should just be moved!
Well there are right opposite my house and I've already had one knock on the door asking to sharpen knives! Given they damaged council property by cutting chains and dragging a one tonne+ boulder out the way surely they should just be moved! Wallisdown
  • Score: 45

1:33pm Sat 26 Jul 14

Secada83 says...

I don't think it will be long before locals take matters into their own hands......
I don't think it will be long before locals take matters into their own hands...... Secada83
  • Score: 47

1:37pm Sat 26 Jul 14

chris100 says...

Section 61 should be used but again the council and police have no balls
Section 61 should be used but again the council and police have no balls chris100
  • Score: 28

1:51pm Sat 26 Jul 14

Martin Houlden UKIP Bournemouth says...

Regarding travellers in Bournemouth, unusually for a UKIP member, let me say this problem is not caused by the EU.

The issue has arisen because of a European Court of Human Rights ruling (which is separate to the EU) where the legislation originated.

In 2000, a UK judge was asked to decide if ‘travellers’ should be afforded the same protection under the ECHR ruling (Race Relations Act) as Romany Gypsies. The judge decided that they were the same.

It’s worth noting that the same legislation is in place in Eire, but their judges decided that ‘travellers’ were not the same as Romany Gypsies.

The other problem is: What is the definition of a traveller?

I’m probably one of the few people who’s taken the time to speak to a gypsy liaison officer and he said the definition is ‘so wide’ the effect is that if someone travels for ‘part of the year’ then they are a traveller. So in effect if you own a motor home and spend one weekend a year in the Lake District, then you have every right to call yourself a traveller, and thus laugh in the face of the ordinary law-abiding citizen.

UKIP policy in 2010 was to send that ruling back to the UK courts and strip out the reference to ‘travellers’ from the ECHR ruling. Although this would still allow authentic Romany Gypsies the right to act in this way, it would stop the sort of incursion Poole and Bournemouth residents put up with every year.

I do not yet know for certain if the policy will be the same as in 2010 (though I’ll lobby our head of policy for inclusion if it has been left out) but I hope we will not have changed our intent on this matter.

The upshot is (for now) that the best the council can legally do is apply for court orders as fast as possible. But remember that UKIP are the only party who want to change the law to end this nonsense. The other parties could have changed this if they’d wanted to.
Regarding travellers in Bournemouth, unusually for a UKIP member, let me say this problem is not caused by the EU. The issue has arisen because of a European Court of Human Rights ruling (which is separate to the EU) where the legislation originated. In 2000, a UK judge was asked to decide if ‘travellers’ should be afforded the same protection under the ECHR ruling (Race Relations Act) as Romany Gypsies. The judge decided that they were the same. It’s worth noting that the same legislation is in place in Eire, but their judges decided that ‘travellers’ were not the same as Romany Gypsies. The other problem is: What is the definition of a traveller? I’m probably one of the few people who’s taken the time to speak to a gypsy liaison officer and he said the definition is ‘so wide’ the effect is that if someone travels for ‘part of the year’ then they are a traveller. So in effect if you own a motor home and spend one weekend a year in the Lake District, then you have every right to call yourself a traveller, and thus laugh in the face of the ordinary law-abiding citizen. UKIP policy in 2010 was to send that ruling back to the UK courts and strip out the reference to ‘travellers’ from the ECHR ruling. Although this would still allow authentic Romany Gypsies the right to act in this way, it would stop the sort of incursion Poole and Bournemouth residents put up with every year. I do not yet know for certain if the policy will be the same as in 2010 (though I’ll lobby our head of policy for inclusion if it has been left out) but I hope we will not have changed our intent on this matter. The upshot is (for now) that the best the council can legally do is apply for court orders as fast as possible. But remember that UKIP are the only party who want to change the law to end this nonsense. The other parties could have changed this if they’d wanted to. Martin Houlden UKIP Bournemouth
  • Score: 26

2:10pm Sat 26 Jul 14

BIGTONE says...

I'll say it again...a much cheaper option...vehicle spikes across gate entrances. Mechanically retractable with a locking access.
End of incursions.
I'll say it again...a much cheaper option...vehicle spikes across gate entrances. Mechanically retractable with a locking access. End of incursions. BIGTONE
  • Score: 29

2:48pm Sat 26 Jul 14

ol'bag lady says...

"Cllr Phillips said: “I was at a neighbourhood forum meeting this morning. People were concerned but they know that it is in safe hands and is going to be dealt with.” Bournemouth Borough councillor Sue Phillips, ward member for Wallisdown and Winton West, said security teams will be positioned at Slades Farm today to prevent further vehicles from entering the site. Cllr Phillips said the teams were due to arrive at around noon and the council will apply to the courts for an eviction on Monday morning".

Safe hands? Why wait until 12 noon today to fetch security in - which will doubtlessly have no effect.
"Cllr Phillips said: “I was at a neighbourhood forum meeting this morning. People were concerned but they know that it is in safe hands and is going to be dealt with.” Bournemouth Borough councillor Sue Phillips, ward member for Wallisdown and Winton West, said security teams will be positioned at Slades Farm today to prevent further vehicles from entering the site. Cllr Phillips said the teams were due to arrive at around noon and the council will apply to the courts for an eviction on Monday morning". Safe hands? Why wait until 12 noon today to fetch security in - which will doubtlessly have no effect. ol'bag lady
  • Score: 8

2:53pm Sat 26 Jul 14

rich53 says...

sea poole wrote:
Don't the 4x4s have number plates? Wouldn't it have been easy to check those...? The police could play a significant part in tracking movements. After all the police vans were frequent visitors to Baiter...just driving by!
If the number plates on the vehicles are registered in southern Ireland theres not much the police can do once the vehicle has insurance tax and mot which is all displayed in the windscreen, you can issues tickets till the cows come home but as it's deemed to costly to process nothing will happen,same applies to parking on yellow lines and speeding and once across the border it's goodnight from him, i came across this info while living in Southern Ireland for some years. And i don't think the plod can just take the car away.
[quote][p][bold]sea poole[/bold] wrote: Don't the 4x4s have number plates? Wouldn't it have been easy to check those...? The police could play a significant part in tracking movements. After all the police vans were frequent visitors to Baiter...just driving by![/p][/quote]If the number plates on the vehicles are registered in southern Ireland theres not much the police can do once the vehicle has insurance tax and mot which is all displayed in the windscreen, you can issues tickets till the cows come home but as it's deemed to costly to process nothing will happen,same applies to parking on yellow lines and speeding and once across the border it's goodnight from him, i came across this info while living in Southern Ireland for some years. And i don't think the plod can just take the car away. rich53
  • Score: 7

3:16pm Sat 26 Jul 14

chris100 says...

Martin houlden can you ask that waste of space Martin wotshisname the police commissioner why the police don't use section 61 when there is evidence that the chain got cut
Martin houlden can you ask that waste of space Martin wotshisname the police commissioner why the police don't use section 61 when there is evidence that the chain got cut chris100
  • Score: 21

3:20pm Sat 26 Jul 14

BournemouthMum says...

Minty Fresh wrote:
Hilarious!
What are the Council actually doing to stop these nomadic parasites pitching up on our open spaces? Very little it would seem. Just like this pathetic excuse for a newspaper, and it's totally anonymous Editor, when it comes to lobbying politicians etc for a law change that would see these undesirables brought to book for their criminal behaviour.
I have a serious question though, why can't the courts state that an eviction order stands for ALL Council/public open spaces in the local area? That way surely the Police would have the power to move on/arrest them immediately? Or does that solution require too much common sense?
Can I just ask why you call these people 'parasites' - all they are doing is living off the land - COMMON LAND! Do you realise that we live in a country where we are forbidden to build a shelter for ourselves or be self sufficient, i.e. living off what nature gave us?

I'm sick of seeing these comments every time travellers are mentioned. Just because they don't conform to the way of life that is forced upon us by the powers-that-be they are slated. All they want is an alternative to the accepted norm - i.e buy a house and be slaves to the bank (mortgage) or rent and be a slave to a parasitic landlord. THEY are the parasites (bankers and landlords who capitalise on the monopoly they hold) not these people who just want to live peaceful lives and be self sufficient.

The usual 'look at the mess they leave behind' argument doesn't hold water either. Where are they supposed to dump their waste? It isn't as if they have anywhere to a) dispose of their rubbish b) legally stay without hindrance or c) live peaceably.

You state 'criminal behaviour' they are not breaking the law and are therefore not criminals. You may want to familiarise yourself with 'common law'.

Leave them alone.
[quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: Hilarious! What are the Council actually doing to stop these nomadic parasites pitching up on our open spaces? Very little it would seem. Just like this pathetic excuse for a newspaper, and it's totally anonymous Editor, when it comes to lobbying politicians etc for a law change that would see these undesirables brought to book for their criminal behaviour. I have a serious question though, why can't the courts state that an eviction order stands for ALL Council/public open spaces in the local area? That way surely the Police would have the power to move on/arrest them immediately? Or does that solution require too much common sense?[/p][/quote]Can I just ask why you call these people 'parasites' - all they are doing is living off the land - COMMON LAND! Do you realise that we live in a country where we are forbidden to build a shelter for ourselves or be self sufficient, i.e. living off what nature gave us? I'm sick of seeing these comments every time travellers are mentioned. Just because they don't conform to the way of life that is forced upon us by the powers-that-be they are slated. All they want is an alternative to the accepted norm - i.e buy a house and be slaves to the bank (mortgage) or rent and be a slave to a parasitic landlord. THEY are the parasites (bankers and landlords who capitalise on the monopoly they hold) not these people who just want to live peaceful lives and be self sufficient. The usual 'look at the mess they leave behind' argument doesn't hold water either. Where are they supposed to dump their waste? It isn't as if they have anywhere to a) dispose of their rubbish b) legally stay without hindrance or c) live peaceably. You state 'criminal behaviour' they are not breaking the law and are therefore not criminals. You may want to familiarise yourself with 'common law'. Leave them alone. BournemouthMum
  • Score: -28

3:35pm Sat 26 Jul 14

PeteLandis says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
Minty Fresh wrote:
Hilarious!
What are the Council actually doing to stop these nomadic parasites pitching up on our open spaces? Very little it would seem. Just like this pathetic excuse for a newspaper, and it's totally anonymous Editor, when it comes to lobbying politicians etc for a law change that would see these undesirables brought to book for their criminal behaviour.
I have a serious question though, why can't the courts state that an eviction order stands for ALL Council/public open spaces in the local area? That way surely the Police would have the power to move on/arrest them immediately? Or does that solution require too much common sense?
Can I just ask why you call these people 'parasites' - all they are doing is living off the land - COMMON LAND! Do you realise that we live in a country where we are forbidden to build a shelter for ourselves or be self sufficient, i.e. living off what nature gave us?

I'm sick of seeing these comments every time travellers are mentioned. Just because they don't conform to the way of life that is forced upon us by the powers-that-be they are slated. All they want is an alternative to the accepted norm - i.e buy a house and be slaves to the bank (mortgage) or rent and be a slave to a parasitic landlord. THEY are the parasites (bankers and landlords who capitalise on the monopoly they hold) not these people who just want to live peaceful lives and be self sufficient.

The usual 'look at the mess they leave behind' argument doesn't hold water either. Where are they supposed to dump their waste? It isn't as if they have anywhere to a) dispose of their rubbish b) legally stay without hindrance or c) live peaceably.

You state 'criminal behaviour' they are not breaking the law and are therefore not criminals. You may want to familiarise yourself with 'common law'.

Leave them alone.
Well put your address on here, then we know where to send them - your back garden!!
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: Hilarious! What are the Council actually doing to stop these nomadic parasites pitching up on our open spaces? Very little it would seem. Just like this pathetic excuse for a newspaper, and it's totally anonymous Editor, when it comes to lobbying politicians etc for a law change that would see these undesirables brought to book for their criminal behaviour. I have a serious question though, why can't the courts state that an eviction order stands for ALL Council/public open spaces in the local area? That way surely the Police would have the power to move on/arrest them immediately? Or does that solution require too much common sense?[/p][/quote]Can I just ask why you call these people 'parasites' - all they are doing is living off the land - COMMON LAND! Do you realise that we live in a country where we are forbidden to build a shelter for ourselves or be self sufficient, i.e. living off what nature gave us? I'm sick of seeing these comments every time travellers are mentioned. Just because they don't conform to the way of life that is forced upon us by the powers-that-be they are slated. All they want is an alternative to the accepted norm - i.e buy a house and be slaves to the bank (mortgage) or rent and be a slave to a parasitic landlord. THEY are the parasites (bankers and landlords who capitalise on the monopoly they hold) not these people who just want to live peaceful lives and be self sufficient. The usual 'look at the mess they leave behind' argument doesn't hold water either. Where are they supposed to dump their waste? It isn't as if they have anywhere to a) dispose of their rubbish b) legally stay without hindrance or c) live peaceably. You state 'criminal behaviour' they are not breaking the law and are therefore not criminals. You may want to familiarise yourself with 'common law'. Leave them alone.[/p][/quote]Well put your address on here, then we know where to send them - your back garden!! PeteLandis
  • Score: 65

3:39pm Sat 26 Jul 14

Peroni says...

sollie wrote:
Why not use Poole council CCTV car to keep tabs on these.vehicles It is not being used now the schools are out.
It's out and about Poole today !!
[quote][p][bold]sollie[/bold] wrote: Why not use Poole council CCTV car to keep tabs on these.vehicles It is not being used now the schools are out.[/p][/quote]It's out and about Poole today !! Peroni
  • Score: 9

3:41pm Sat 26 Jul 14

Peroni says...

Secada83 wrote:
I don't think it will be long before locals take matters into their own hands......
One day ........ Maybe that's what is needed yes !!
[quote][p][bold]Secada83[/bold] wrote: I don't think it will be long before locals take matters into their own hands......[/p][/quote]One day ........ Maybe that's what is needed yes !! Peroni
  • Score: 20

3:43pm Sat 26 Jul 14

dylexic bobert says...

They're on holiday.
Cut them some slack!
They're on holiday. Cut them some slack! dylexic bobert
  • Score: -20

3:44pm Sat 26 Jul 14

askquestion says...

bournemouth mum ? are you for real ? not criminals ? really. breaking into private council property is illegal. they wernt invited to pitch up for a free holiday. i and millions of others have to pay for the priviledge of a break.

the fact that local children have lost thier play ground should be enough. you clearly dont remember the trouble that they caused the last time they invaded the area ?. aybe you dont live close ?

as for the flowery language yet again from councillors who come monday will be rushing to the courts !!! if this sleepy council, and police force had been awake, it was glaringly obvious that this lot would aim for Slades farm. after being turfed off a local nature reserve. they have so much respect for the great outdoors ?take thier own rubbish away. why should we have to continually have to pick up after such scruffy individuals.

as has been said elswhere, there needs to be a blanket ban on these illegal criminals.

i doubt there will be a great rush as we arent on the tourist trail ! maybe if they parked in the lower gardens, bournemouth would awake from its sleep and start to act for the tax payers of this town. and not for all and sundry to invade.

any one you know who wishes to hold a rave ?
bournemouth mum ? are you for real ? not criminals ? really. breaking into private council property is illegal. they wernt invited to pitch up for a free holiday. i and millions of others have to pay for the priviledge of a break. the fact that local children have lost thier play ground should be enough. you clearly dont remember the trouble that they caused the last time they invaded the area ?. aybe you dont live close ? as for the flowery language yet again from councillors who come monday will be rushing to the courts !!! if this sleepy council, and police force had been awake, it was glaringly obvious that this lot would aim for Slades farm. after being turfed off a local nature reserve. they have so much respect for the great outdoors ?take thier own rubbish away. why should we have to continually have to pick up after such scruffy individuals. as has been said elswhere, there needs to be a blanket ban on these illegal criminals. i doubt there will be a great rush as we arent on the tourist trail ! maybe if they parked in the lower gardens, bournemouth would awake from its sleep and start to act for the tax payers of this town. and not for all and sundry to invade. any one you know who wishes to hold a rave ? askquestion
  • Score: 30

4:10pm Sat 26 Jul 14

askquestion says...

one thing very noticeable this morning, was that the one security man ! and the police , were actually allowing vehicles onto the field ?. when i questioned why, i was told by the police that it was " common land " so apparently anyone can drive through a supposedly locked gate. ? i asked if they had been invited as it was " common land " and got a shrug !

with security like this, lets hope we never have a 3rd war !!
one thing very noticeable this morning, was that the one security man ! and the police , were actually allowing vehicles onto the field ?. when i questioned why, i was told by the police that it was " common land " so apparently anyone can drive through a supposedly locked gate. ? i asked if they had been invited as it was " common land " and got a shrug ! with security like this, lets hope we never have a 3rd war !! askquestion
  • Score: 21

4:21pm Sat 26 Jul 14

bosco1 says...

Whats happened to the Warning notice the Echo normally puts at the top of the comments page about what you can and cannot say about "Travelers " Seems strange .!!!?? Normally comments would have been removed ?
Whats happened to the Warning notice the Echo normally puts at the top of the comments page about what you can and cannot say about "Travelers " Seems strange .!!!?? Normally comments would have been removed ? bosco1
  • Score: 8

4:28pm Sat 26 Jul 14

askquestion says...

bosco. interesting comment. once there were 33 comments. now there are 30 !!!!!
bosco. interesting comment. once there were 33 comments. now there are 30 !!!!! askquestion
  • Score: 8

4:38pm Sat 26 Jul 14

FriendsofKC says...

askquestion wrote:
one thing very noticeable this morning, was that the one security man ! and the police , were actually allowing vehicles onto the field ?. when i questioned why, i was told by the police that it was " common land " so apparently anyone can drive through a supposedly locked gate. ? i asked if they had been invited as it was " common land " and got a shrug !

with security like this, lets hope we never have a 3rd war !!
Definition of "Common Land" from Natural England is-


Common land is a piece of land in private ownership, where other people have certain traditional rights to use it in specified ways, such as being allowed to graze their livestock or gather firewood.

Those who have a right of common are known as ‘commoners’, with the landowner retaining other rights to the land, such as rights to minerals and large timber and to any common rights left unexercised by the commoners.

However, in legal terms, the situation is more complex. There is no single definition of the term 'common land', or indeed of 'common' or 'common rights'.

Common land of the 21st century is in many ways a relic of ancient land use systems. The popular misconception that common land belongs to everyone has persisted since at least Tudor times, when land would have been used for communal farming and domestic practices. Collective farming was once a widespread practice, dating back to medieval times, when it probably covered more than half of England.

It became a legally recognised form of land management with the Commons Act of 1285, which has been replaced by the Commons Act of 2006.
[quote][p][bold]askquestion[/bold] wrote: one thing very noticeable this morning, was that the one security man ! and the police , were actually allowing vehicles onto the field ?. when i questioned why, i was told by the police that it was " common land " so apparently anyone can drive through a supposedly locked gate. ? i asked if they had been invited as it was " common land " and got a shrug ! with security like this, lets hope we never have a 3rd war !![/p][/quote]Definition of "Common Land" from Natural England is- Common land is a piece of land in private ownership, where other people have certain traditional rights to use it in specified ways, such as being allowed to graze their livestock or gather firewood. Those who have a right of common are known as ‘commoners’, with the landowner retaining other rights to the land, such as rights to minerals and large timber and to any common rights left unexercised by the commoners. However, in legal terms, the situation is more complex. There is no single definition of the term 'common land', or indeed of 'common' or 'common rights'. Common land of the 21st century is in many ways a relic of ancient land use systems. The popular misconception that common land belongs to everyone has persisted since at least Tudor times, when land would have been used for communal farming and domestic practices. Collective farming was once a widespread practice, dating back to medieval times, when it probably covered more than half of England. It became a legally recognised form of land management with the Commons Act of 1285, which has been replaced by the Commons Act of 2006. FriendsofKC
  • Score: 2

6:02pm Sat 26 Jul 14

mableone says...

BigAlfromsunnyBourne
mouth
wrote:
Years ago there was always a magistrate the police could call on to sign orders 24/7.
There still are
[quote][p][bold]BigAlfromsunnyBourne mouth[/bold] wrote: Years ago there was always a magistrate the police could call on to sign orders 24/7.[/p][/quote]There still are mableone
  • Score: 5

7:03pm Sat 26 Jul 14

beachcomber1 says...

they better not interfere with the velodrome, as once they even hint at inconveniencing cyclists then they will be in big trouble.
they better not interfere with the velodrome, as once they even hint at inconveniencing cyclists then they will be in big trouble. beachcomber1
  • Score: 9

8:10pm Sat 26 Jul 14

stevobath says...

Townee wrote:
Bournemouth Ohec wrote:
As I've said before , keep them there and send in HMRC, DVLA, TV Licencing and all the other agencies that we are accountable to, and let them check them out.
What has these agencies got to do with Irish travellers? They are the same as any foreigner who brings a car to this area they don't pay road fund licence, TV licence and wouldn't pay tax in UK.
What we need is a blanket band on them from the courts to stop them camping anywhere in Dorset, fine them if they do park up in cash or impound their vans until they pay up. This would happen to us so should it apply to them.
'A blanket band'....Can't wait to hear that play!
[quote][p][bold]Townee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bournemouth Ohec[/bold] wrote: As I've said before , keep them there and send in HMRC, DVLA, TV Licencing and all the other agencies that we are accountable to, and let them check them out.[/p][/quote]What has these agencies got to do with Irish travellers? They are the same as any foreigner who brings a car to this area they don't pay road fund licence, TV licence and wouldn't pay tax in UK. What we need is a blanket band on them from the courts to stop them camping anywhere in Dorset, fine them if they do park up in cash or impound their vans until they pay up. This would happen to us so should it apply to them.[/p][/quote]'A blanket band'....Can't wait to hear that play! stevobath
  • Score: 0

8:16pm Sat 26 Jul 14

kalebmoledirt says...

This is not news ,more a social announcement.happens every year ,it is now acceptable by the council And police .all it needs now is to bring the rate paying law abiding locals into line, Best of luck with that one .look forward to the same announcement next year Perhaps an annual free porta lav skip day . Red arrows . Hospitality tent for councillors and any other unemployable
This is not news ,more a social announcement.happens every year ,it is now acceptable by the council And police .all it needs now is to bring the rate paying law abiding locals into line, Best of luck with that one .look forward to the same announcement next year Perhaps an annual free porta lav skip day . Red arrows . Hospitality tent for councillors and any other unemployable kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 4

9:03pm Sat 26 Jul 14

retry69 says...

stevobath wrote:
Townee wrote:
Bournemouth Ohec wrote:
As I've said before , keep them there and send in HMRC, DVLA, TV Licencing and all the other agencies that we are accountable to, and let them check them out.
What has these agencies got to do with Irish travellers? They are the same as any foreigner who brings a car to this area they don't pay road fund licence, TV licence and wouldn't pay tax in UK.
What we need is a blanket band on them from the courts to stop them camping anywhere in Dorset, fine them if they do park up in cash or impound their vans until they pay up. This would happen to us so should it apply to them.
'A blanket band'....Can't wait to hear that play!
Playing sheet music perhaps :)
[quote][p][bold]stevobath[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Townee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bournemouth Ohec[/bold] wrote: As I've said before , keep them there and send in HMRC, DVLA, TV Licencing and all the other agencies that we are accountable to, and let them check them out.[/p][/quote]What has these agencies got to do with Irish travellers? They are the same as any foreigner who brings a car to this area they don't pay road fund licence, TV licence and wouldn't pay tax in UK. What we need is a blanket band on them from the courts to stop them camping anywhere in Dorset, fine them if they do park up in cash or impound their vans until they pay up. This would happen to us so should it apply to them.[/p][/quote]'A blanket band'....Can't wait to hear that play![/p][/quote]Playing sheet music perhaps :) retry69
  • Score: 3

9:41pm Sat 26 Jul 14

Topnova says...

We have the wrong method of handling such trespass, Councils should immediately make the site secure to prevent any travellers leaving and then charge a daily fixed penalty until they make good all damage & litter, if they fail then the caravans should be seized.
We have the wrong method of handling such trespass, Councils should immediately make the site secure to prevent any travellers leaving and then charge a daily fixed penalty until they make good all damage & litter, if they fail then the caravans should be seized. Topnova
  • Score: 17

10:57pm Sat 26 Jul 14

forest-dweller says...

I guess another month of this until they move up to the Steam Fair.
I guess another month of this until they move up to the Steam Fair. forest-dweller
  • Score: 5

11:49pm Sat 26 Jul 14

O'Reilly says...

stevobath wrote:
Townee wrote:
Bournemouth Ohec wrote:
As I've said before , keep them there and send in HMRC, DVLA, TV Licencing and all the other agencies that we are accountable to, and let them check them out.
What has these agencies got to do with Irish travellers? They are the same as any foreigner who brings a car to this area they don't pay road fund licence, TV licence and wouldn't pay tax in UK.
What we need is a blanket band on them from the courts to stop them camping anywhere in Dorset, fine them if they do park up in cash or impound their vans until they pay up. This would happen to us so should it apply to them.
'A blanket band'....Can't wait to hear that play!
Probably be a fiddle band...
[quote][p][bold]stevobath[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Townee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bournemouth Ohec[/bold] wrote: As I've said before , keep them there and send in HMRC, DVLA, TV Licencing and all the other agencies that we are accountable to, and let them check them out.[/p][/quote]What has these agencies got to do with Irish travellers? They are the same as any foreigner who brings a car to this area they don't pay road fund licence, TV licence and wouldn't pay tax in UK. What we need is a blanket band on them from the courts to stop them camping anywhere in Dorset, fine them if they do park up in cash or impound their vans until they pay up. This would happen to us so should it apply to them.[/p][/quote]'A blanket band'....Can't wait to hear that play![/p][/quote]Probably be a fiddle band... O'Reilly
  • Score: 0

11:58pm Sat 26 Jul 14

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

Remember this next time you vote. Vote UKIP or stop moaning.
Remember this next time you vote. Vote UKIP or stop moaning. Letcommonsenseprevail
  • Score: -2

12:00am Sun 27 Jul 14

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

sea poole wrote:
Don't the 4x4s have number plates? Wouldn't it have been easy to check those...? The police could play a significant part in tracking movements. After all the police vans were frequent visitors to Baiter...just driving by!
Stop asking silly questions. The 'authorities' are too scared to deal with these people.......
[quote][p][bold]sea poole[/bold] wrote: Don't the 4x4s have number plates? Wouldn't it have been easy to check those...? The police could play a significant part in tracking movements. After all the police vans were frequent visitors to Baiter...just driving by![/p][/quote]Stop asking silly questions. The 'authorities' are too scared to deal with these people....... Letcommonsenseprevail
  • Score: 7

1:43am Sun 27 Jul 14

HRH of Boscombe says...

sea poole wrote:
Don't the 4x4s have number plates? Wouldn't it have been easy to check those...? The police could play a significant part in tracking movements. After all the police vans were frequent visitors to Baiter...just driving by!
Dorset piglets haven't got the spine to confront them about parking tickets according to last week council interview with the Echo.
.
Our boys in blue just help them with toilets and collect their rubbish!
[quote][p][bold]sea poole[/bold] wrote: Don't the 4x4s have number plates? Wouldn't it have been easy to check those...? The police could play a significant part in tracking movements. After all the police vans were frequent visitors to Baiter...just driving by![/p][/quote]Dorset piglets haven't got the spine to confront them about parking tickets according to last week council interview with the Echo. . Our boys in blue just help them with toilets and collect their rubbish! HRH of Boscombe
  • Score: 4

7:30am Sun 27 Jul 14

Lord Spring says...

With all this dry weather the grass will need some nutrient so Wessex Water should be contracted to go forth with the slurry from the sewer farms and spray the area forthwith.

It worked with a farmer elsewhere who had this problem the caravans moved immediately.
With all this dry weather the grass will need some nutrient so Wessex Water should be contracted to go forth with the slurry from the sewer farms and spray the area forthwith. It worked with a farmer elsewhere who had this problem the caravans moved immediately. Lord Spring
  • Score: 6

7:42am Sun 27 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

Its about time the law was changed, why should councils have to go through all thus long winded crap to move these scumbags on when they invade open spaces and residents lives.
As soon as these scroungers move onto any ground the council should have the right to tow them off, the police should also be towing away any vehicles that are not taxed, insured and M.O.Td, why should these filth pedlars be above the law when the ordinary person in this country would feel the full force of the law if they acted in the same manner, far from these people being discriminated against I believe its the rest of us who are suffering discrimination from the very laws that are supposed to protect us.
Its about time the law was changed, why should councils have to go through all thus long winded crap to move these scumbags on when they invade open spaces and residents lives. As soon as these scroungers move onto any ground the council should have the right to tow them off, the police should also be towing away any vehicles that are not taxed, insured and M.O.Td, why should these filth pedlars be above the law when the ordinary person in this country would feel the full force of the law if they acted in the same manner, far from these people being discriminated against I believe its the rest of us who are suffering discrimination from the very laws that are supposed to protect us. Hessenford
  • Score: 17

8:05am Sun 27 Jul 14

Sir Retry69 says...

Having just completed my usual Sunday morning hour long walk around the Slades Farm Manor with trusty friend Teejay there appears around 18 caravans/motor homes, no evidence of anymore litter,bottles, damage than normal after a Saturday night,no sign of human activity except for two extremely bored looking people kicking at the ground at the open entrance to the field,just what they would do if someone drove at speed towards the entrance I don't know,I would have thought the gate should have been closed by now to prevent further arrivals but they obviously know best.This is your local reporter for Slades Farm News signing off, more follows.............
.............?....
Having just completed my usual Sunday morning hour long walk around the Slades Farm Manor with trusty friend Teejay there appears around 18 caravans/motor homes, no evidence of anymore litter,bottles, damage than normal after a Saturday night,no sign of human activity except for two extremely bored looking people kicking at the ground at the open entrance to the field,just what they would do if someone drove at speed towards the entrance I don't know,I would have thought the gate should have been closed by now to prevent further arrivals but they obviously know best.This is your local reporter for Slades Farm News signing off, more follows............. .............?.... Sir Retry69
  • Score: 10

8:52am Sun 27 Jul 14

nosuchluck54 says...

Letcommonsenseprevai
l
wrote:
Remember this next time you vote. Vote UKIP or stop moaning.
Nobody can be that gullible or stupid can they ?
[quote][p][bold]Letcommonsenseprevai l[/bold] wrote: Remember this next time you vote. Vote UKIP or stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Nobody can be that gullible or stupid can they ? nosuchluck54
  • Score: 0

10:47am Sun 27 Jul 14

Dave2207 says...

These 'people' claim to belong to a protected minority and, therefore, must be 'whiter-than-white' - judging by their egregious lack of personal hygiene, they are anything but!
They are unwelcome everywhere they trespass - and for very good reason.
These 'people' claim to belong to a protected minority and, therefore, must be 'whiter-than-white' - judging by their egregious lack of personal hygiene, they are anything but! They are unwelcome everywhere they trespass - and for very good reason. Dave2207
  • Score: 6

11:23am Sun 27 Jul 14

joetheman says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
Minty Fresh wrote:
Hilarious!
What are the Council actually doing to stop these nomadic parasites pitching up on our open spaces? Very little it would seem. Just like this pathetic excuse for a newspaper, and it's totally anonymous Editor, when it comes to lobbying politicians etc for a law change that would see these undesirables brought to book for their criminal behaviour.
I have a serious question though, why can't the courts state that an eviction order stands for ALL Council/public open spaces in the local area? That way surely the Police would have the power to move on/arrest them immediately? Or does that solution require too much common sense?
Can I just ask why you call these people 'parasites' - all they are doing is living off the land - COMMON LAND! Do you realise that we live in a country where we are forbidden to build a shelter for ourselves or be self sufficient, i.e. living off what nature gave us?

I'm sick of seeing these comments every time travellers are mentioned. Just because they don't conform to the way of life that is forced upon us by the powers-that-be they are slated. All they want is an alternative to the accepted norm - i.e buy a house and be slaves to the bank (mortgage) or rent and be a slave to a parasitic landlord. THEY are the parasites (bankers and landlords who capitalise on the monopoly they hold) not these people who just want to live peaceful lives and be self sufficient.

The usual 'look at the mess they leave behind' argument doesn't hold water either. Where are they supposed to dump their waste? It isn't as if they have anywhere to a) dispose of their rubbish b) legally stay without hindrance or c) live peaceably.

You state 'criminal behaviour' they are not breaking the law and are therefore not criminals. You may want to familiarise yourself with 'common law'.

Leave them alone.
previous post removed regarding bournemouth mums comments,i guess my assumptions were correct, hope you are still a traveller fan when they turn up on your door step,but then again i suspect you might be a traveller yourself,all that puzzles me is who wrote and put your post on
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: Hilarious! What are the Council actually doing to stop these nomadic parasites pitching up on our open spaces? Very little it would seem. Just like this pathetic excuse for a newspaper, and it's totally anonymous Editor, when it comes to lobbying politicians etc for a law change that would see these undesirables brought to book for their criminal behaviour. I have a serious question though, why can't the courts state that an eviction order stands for ALL Council/public open spaces in the local area? That way surely the Police would have the power to move on/arrest them immediately? Or does that solution require too much common sense?[/p][/quote]Can I just ask why you call these people 'parasites' - all they are doing is living off the land - COMMON LAND! Do you realise that we live in a country where we are forbidden to build a shelter for ourselves or be self sufficient, i.e. living off what nature gave us? I'm sick of seeing these comments every time travellers are mentioned. Just because they don't conform to the way of life that is forced upon us by the powers-that-be they are slated. All they want is an alternative to the accepted norm - i.e buy a house and be slaves to the bank (mortgage) or rent and be a slave to a parasitic landlord. THEY are the parasites (bankers and landlords who capitalise on the monopoly they hold) not these people who just want to live peaceful lives and be self sufficient. The usual 'look at the mess they leave behind' argument doesn't hold water either. Where are they supposed to dump their waste? It isn't as if they have anywhere to a) dispose of their rubbish b) legally stay without hindrance or c) live peaceably. You state 'criminal behaviour' they are not breaking the law and are therefore not criminals. You may want to familiarise yourself with 'common law'. Leave them alone.[/p][/quote]previous post removed regarding bournemouth mums comments,i guess my assumptions were correct, hope you are still a traveller fan when they turn up on your door step,but then again i suspect you might be a traveller yourself,all that puzzles me is who wrote and put your post on joetheman
  • Score: 10

11:37am Sun 27 Jul 14

Baysider says...

So then, this 'lock down' policy Bournemouth councillors are so keen on spending so much money on is really working eh...

Pointless waste if time aimed at 'appearing' to be doing something.
So then, this 'lock down' policy Bournemouth councillors are so keen on spending so much money on is really working eh... Pointless waste if time aimed at 'appearing' to be doing something. Baysider
  • Score: 5

11:41am Sun 27 Jul 14

Baysider says...

forest-dweller wrote:
I guess another month of this until they move up to the Steam Fair.
...or until people stop agreeing to dodgy, cash in hand work. If there's nothing coming in they will move on almost immediately.
[quote][p][bold]forest-dweller[/bold] wrote: I guess another month of this until they move up to the Steam Fair.[/p][/quote]...or until people stop agreeing to dodgy, cash in hand work. If there's nothing coming in they will move on almost immediately. Baysider
  • Score: 4

1:32pm Sun 27 Jul 14

TheDistrict says...

Baysider is right. Turn them away at your door, they cannot earn money, and in return they move on. Probably sooner than Cllr Phillips and authorities can.
Baysider is right. Turn them away at your door, they cannot earn money, and in return they move on. Probably sooner than Cllr Phillips and authorities can. TheDistrict
  • Score: 3

2:08pm Sun 27 Jul 14

bluethinking says...

Who’s fault is it this keeps happening? I can’t but the life of me think?
Who’s fault is it this keeps happening? I can’t but the life of me think? bluethinking
  • Score: 5

2:33pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Minty Fresh says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
Minty Fresh wrote:
Hilarious!
What are the Council actually doing to stop these nomadic parasites pitching up on our open spaces? Very little it would seem. Just like this pathetic excuse for a newspaper, and it's totally anonymous Editor, when it comes to lobbying politicians etc for a law change that would see these undesirables brought to book for their criminal behaviour.
I have a serious question though, why can't the courts state that an eviction order stands for ALL Council/public open spaces in the local area? That way surely the Police would have the power to move on/arrest them immediately? Or does that solution require too much common sense?
Can I just ask why you call these people 'parasites' - all they are doing is living off the land - COMMON LAND! Do you realise that we live in a country where we are forbidden to build a shelter for ourselves or be self sufficient, i.e. living off what nature gave us?

I'm sick of seeing these comments every time travellers are mentioned. Just because they don't conform to the way of life that is forced upon us by the powers-that-be they are slated. All they want is an alternative to the accepted norm - i.e buy a house and be slaves to the bank (mortgage) or rent and be a slave to a parasitic landlord. THEY are the parasites (bankers and landlords who capitalise on the monopoly they hold) not these people who just want to live peaceful lives and be self sufficient.

The usual 'look at the mess they leave behind' argument doesn't hold water either. Where are they supposed to dump their waste? It isn't as if they have anywhere to a) dispose of their rubbish b) legally stay without hindrance or c) live peaceably.

You state 'criminal behaviour' they are not breaking the law and are therefore not criminals. You may want to familiarise yourself with 'common law'.

Leave them alone.
My previous response to your ridiculous reply was withdrawn by the powers that be at Echo towers. Well done on that Echo. Freedom of speech and all that? Pfffft. Yeah right.

BournemouthMum, I'm sorry but you cannot be serious that travellers want to be self sufficient and live off the land. If they did they'd want land to grow food or raise animals and they can't do that when they're moving from place to place can they? The reality is that they just want to do whatever they like whenever they like and have no regard or respect for people's property, our public open spaces, the laws everyone else abides by or indeed anyone other than themselves. Do you think that's fair? Do you like the fact that YOUR Council Tax (if you pay any) in part goes toward clearing up after them? That the Council have to spend OUR money on security guards to keep travellers off our public land? (Not that they've done a very good job!)
Criminal behaviour means breaking the law. Any law. And travellers are breaking the law every time they remove barriers to our public spaces and pitch up. They then break littering laws by leaving their rubbish and human/animal excrement behind for Council workers to clear up. So don't bother claiming travellers are not breaking the law ok. It's high time the authorities grew a pair and stopped these free loading parasites once and for all from sticking two fingers up at us all.

Oh and it's a shame the Echo don't actually back it's readers by launching a high profile campaign for a law change that would end the discrimination WE are suffering. But hey, it's easier to do nothing isn't it Echo? And of course stifle the opinions of your readers on this issue which you do every day. Shame on you.
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: Hilarious! What are the Council actually doing to stop these nomadic parasites pitching up on our open spaces? Very little it would seem. Just like this pathetic excuse for a newspaper, and it's totally anonymous Editor, when it comes to lobbying politicians etc for a law change that would see these undesirables brought to book for their criminal behaviour. I have a serious question though, why can't the courts state that an eviction order stands for ALL Council/public open spaces in the local area? That way surely the Police would have the power to move on/arrest them immediately? Or does that solution require too much common sense?[/p][/quote]Can I just ask why you call these people 'parasites' - all they are doing is living off the land - COMMON LAND! Do you realise that we live in a country where we are forbidden to build a shelter for ourselves or be self sufficient, i.e. living off what nature gave us? I'm sick of seeing these comments every time travellers are mentioned. Just because they don't conform to the way of life that is forced upon us by the powers-that-be they are slated. All they want is an alternative to the accepted norm - i.e buy a house and be slaves to the bank (mortgage) or rent and be a slave to a parasitic landlord. THEY are the parasites (bankers and landlords who capitalise on the monopoly they hold) not these people who just want to live peaceful lives and be self sufficient. The usual 'look at the mess they leave behind' argument doesn't hold water either. Where are they supposed to dump their waste? It isn't as if they have anywhere to a) dispose of their rubbish b) legally stay without hindrance or c) live peaceably. You state 'criminal behaviour' they are not breaking the law and are therefore not criminals. You may want to familiarise yourself with 'common law'. Leave them alone.[/p][/quote]My previous response to your ridiculous reply was withdrawn by the powers that be at Echo towers. Well done on that Echo. Freedom of speech and all that? Pfffft. Yeah right. BournemouthMum, I'm sorry but you cannot be serious that travellers want to be self sufficient and live off the land. If they did they'd want land to grow food or raise animals and they can't do that when they're moving from place to place can they? The reality is that they just want to do whatever they like whenever they like and have no regard or respect for people's property, our public open spaces, the laws everyone else abides by or indeed anyone other than themselves. Do you think that's fair? Do you like the fact that YOUR Council Tax (if you pay any) in part goes toward clearing up after them? That the Council have to spend OUR money on security guards to keep travellers off our public land? (Not that they've done a very good job!) Criminal behaviour means breaking the law. Any law. And travellers are breaking the law every time they remove barriers to our public spaces and pitch up. They then break littering laws by leaving their rubbish and human/animal excrement behind for Council workers to clear up. So don't bother claiming travellers are not breaking the law ok. It's high time the authorities grew a pair and stopped these free loading parasites once and for all from sticking two fingers up at us all. Oh and it's a shame the Echo don't actually back it's readers by launching a high profile campaign for a law change that would end the discrimination WE are suffering. But hey, it's easier to do nothing isn't it Echo? And of course stifle the opinions of your readers on this issue which you do every day. Shame on you. Minty Fresh
  • Score: 14

2:34pm Sun 27 Jul 14

eyeore05 says...

If they had to move a boulder and undo a gate - surely they have broken in and should be arrested.... security guards are there now but they cannot do anything and just watch them come and go. There were 15 caravans yesterday and now there are 18!!

Isnt it about time the government made it easier to get rid of these people and only let them park on designated sites. With their 14 plate mercedes they can afford to book a campsite all year around.
If they had to move a boulder and undo a gate - surely they have broken in and should be arrested.... security guards are there now but they cannot do anything and just watch them come and go. There were 15 caravans yesterday and now there are 18!! Isnt it about time the government made it easier to get rid of these people and only let them park on designated sites. With their 14 plate mercedes they can afford to book a campsite all year around. eyeore05
  • Score: 11

3:21pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Minty Fresh says...

Oh and Echo, please remove your patronising box telling me that one of my comments has upset someone and I have to tick your little box to say "I understand". It's ridiculous.
Oh and Echo, please remove your patronising box telling me that one of my comments has upset someone and I have to tick your little box to say "I understand". It's ridiculous. Minty Fresh
  • Score: 12

5:06pm Sun 27 Jul 14

fedupwithjobsworths says...

Baysider wrote:
forest-dweller wrote:
I guess another month of this until they move up to the Steam Fair.
...or until people stop agreeing to dodgy, cash in hand work. If there's nothing coming in they will move on almost immediately.
Apart from the steam fair who else employs them, I can't imagine anyone doing so.
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest-dweller[/bold] wrote: I guess another month of this until they move up to the Steam Fair.[/p][/quote]...or until people stop agreeing to dodgy, cash in hand work. If there's nothing coming in they will move on almost immediately.[/p][/quote]Apart from the steam fair who else employs them, I can't imagine anyone doing so. fedupwithjobsworths
  • Score: 3

8:12pm Sun 27 Jul 14

joetheman says...

Minty Fresh wrote:
Oh and Echo, please remove your patronising box telling me that one of my comments has upset someone and I have to tick your little box to say "I understand". It's ridiculous.
Its the tossers in the office nothing better to do i think you will find the censors are failed reporters and believe me you have to be really useless to fail at the ohec
[quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: Oh and Echo, please remove your patronising box telling me that one of my comments has upset someone and I have to tick your little box to say "I understand". It's ridiculous.[/p][/quote]Its the tossers in the office nothing better to do i think you will find the censors are failed reporters and believe me you have to be really useless to fail at the ohec joetheman
  • Score: 0

8:48pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Minty Fresh says...

joetheman wrote:
Minty Fresh wrote:
Oh and Echo, please remove your patronising box telling me that one of my comments has upset someone and I have to tick your little box to say "I understand". It's ridiculous.
Its the tossers in the office nothing better to do i think you will find the censors are failed reporters and believe me you have to be really useless to fail at the ohec
Knowing Newsquest they've probably outsourced that, like they've done with just about every other job, to save money. The trouble with paying peanuts is that you get monkeys and boy does it show these days. Joke company, joke publication.
[quote][p][bold]joetheman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: Oh and Echo, please remove your patronising box telling me that one of my comments has upset someone and I have to tick your little box to say "I understand". It's ridiculous.[/p][/quote]Its the tossers in the office nothing better to do i think you will find the censors are failed reporters and believe me you have to be really useless to fail at the ohec[/p][/quote]Knowing Newsquest they've probably outsourced that, like they've done with just about every other job, to save money. The trouble with paying peanuts is that you get monkeys and boy does it show these days. Joke company, joke publication. Minty Fresh
  • Score: 2

10:07pm Sun 27 Jul 14

ashleycross says...

If Bournemouth wants to live in the 1950's when cars were status symbols and it was not illegal to persecute gypsies, this is what they have to put up with. Why they can't do as the rest of the country by building sites that went in everywhere except dorset decades ago is easy enough to see. Grumpy old people who'd like to put our young men into the front line fighting germany again, and/or anyone with a foreign accent. They should be towed out to see and dumped the lot of them and leave the town for the young vibrant people who would take over, build travellers sites, reinstate the few cycle lanes that got painted out and live life to the full in harmony with their neighbours, round the corner and round the world.
If Bournemouth wants to live in the 1950's when cars were status symbols and it was not illegal to persecute gypsies, this is what they have to put up with. Why they can't do as the rest of the country by building sites that went in everywhere except dorset decades ago is easy enough to see. Grumpy old people who'd like to put our young men into the front line fighting germany again, and/or anyone with a foreign accent. They should be towed out to see and dumped the lot of them and leave the town for the young vibrant people who would take over, build travellers sites, reinstate the few cycle lanes that got painted out and live life to the full in harmony with their neighbours, round the corner and round the world. ashleycross
  • Score: -8

10:11pm Sun 27 Jul 14

ds corfemullen says...

Here we go again same old year in year out when will the council learn
Here we go again same old year in year out when will the council learn ds corfemullen
  • Score: 1

11:06pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Kiki1973 says...

Letcommonsenseprevai
l
wrote:
Remember this next time you vote. Vote UKIP or stop moaning.
Think you made a typo, surely you meant 'vote UKIP and join the racist party that aligns itself with Right wing extremists in Europe'?
[quote][p][bold]Letcommonsenseprevai l[/bold] wrote: Remember this next time you vote. Vote UKIP or stop moaning.[/p][/quote]Think you made a typo, surely you meant 'vote UKIP and join the racist party that aligns itself with Right wing extremists in Europe'? Kiki1973
  • Score: 2

11:13pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Huey says...

I think it's funny
I think it's funny Huey
  • Score: -6

9:53am Mon 28 Jul 14

BH1 loyal says...

I scratched my car on one of them big boulders the council put everywhere the other day, yes those same boulders that don't actually stop anyone. If I had the access to remove it like these lot do, I would. White Range rover, summer spent on the dorset fields, lovely life. They have been turning up every summer for ever, and everyone still goes into panic when it happens, why ? Get over it.
I scratched my car on one of them big boulders the council put everywhere the other day, yes those same boulders that don't actually stop anyone. If I had the access to remove it like these lot do, I would. White Range rover, summer spent on the dorset fields, lovely life. They have been turning up every summer for ever, and everyone still goes into panic when it happens, why ? Get over it. BH1 loyal
  • Score: -1

10:36am Mon 28 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

"It’s thought a metal chain used to secure the gate to the playing field was removed, a height restrictor was damaged and a boulder moved."

So, once again, the land was closed off, and they have forced entry. This allows the Police to remove them immediately for breaking and entering, without having to give lots of notice and apply for a court order, does it not? Yet, they just sit back and do nothing.

I bet the first thing anyone in authority did was ring up the local skip and portaloo suppliers and get them to drop off a few presents. Clearly, they're all too soft to actually do their jobs when it might be a bit awkward.
"It’s thought a metal chain used to secure the gate to the playing field was removed, a height restrictor was damaged and a boulder moved." So, once again, the land was closed off, and they have forced entry. This allows the Police to remove them immediately for breaking and entering, without having to give lots of notice and apply for a court order, does it not? Yet, they just sit back and do nothing. I bet the first thing anyone in authority did was ring up the local skip and portaloo suppliers and get them to drop off a few presents. Clearly, they're all too soft to actually do their jobs when it might be a bit awkward. speedy231278
  • Score: 3

10:42am Mon 28 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
Minty Fresh wrote:
Hilarious!
What are the Council actually doing to stop these nomadic parasites pitching up on our open spaces? Very little it would seem. Just like this pathetic excuse for a newspaper, and it's totally anonymous Editor, when it comes to lobbying politicians etc for a law change that would see these undesirables brought to book for their criminal behaviour.
I have a serious question though, why can't the courts state that an eviction order stands for ALL Council/public open spaces in the local area? That way surely the Police would have the power to move on/arrest them immediately? Or does that solution require too much common sense?
Can I just ask why you call these people 'parasites' - all they are doing is living off the land - COMMON LAND! Do you realise that we live in a country where we are forbidden to build a shelter for ourselves or be self sufficient, i.e. living off what nature gave us?

I'm sick of seeing these comments every time travellers are mentioned. Just because they don't conform to the way of life that is forced upon us by the powers-that-be they are slated. All they want is an alternative to the accepted norm - i.e buy a house and be slaves to the bank (mortgage) or rent and be a slave to a parasitic landlord. THEY are the parasites (bankers and landlords who capitalise on the monopoly they hold) not these people who just want to live peaceful lives and be self sufficient.

The usual 'look at the mess they leave behind' argument doesn't hold water either. Where are they supposed to dump their waste? It isn't as if they have anywhere to a) dispose of their rubbish b) legally stay without hindrance or c) live peaceably.

You state 'criminal behaviour' they are not breaking the law and are therefore not criminals. You may want to familiarise yourself with 'common law'.

Leave them alone.
Are you serious, or just stupid? These 'travellers' regularly BREAK INTO areas of land where vehicles are not permitted. This is ILLEGAL. You say that we should accept people with an alternative lifestyle - yet said lifestyle centres around breaking the law on a regular basis, tax evasion and intimidating behviour. If I was to break into your property and set up camp on it claiming it was my lifestyle, I bet you'd be the first to complain!
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: Hilarious! What are the Council actually doing to stop these nomadic parasites pitching up on our open spaces? Very little it would seem. Just like this pathetic excuse for a newspaper, and it's totally anonymous Editor, when it comes to lobbying politicians etc for a law change that would see these undesirables brought to book for their criminal behaviour. I have a serious question though, why can't the courts state that an eviction order stands for ALL Council/public open spaces in the local area? That way surely the Police would have the power to move on/arrest them immediately? Or does that solution require too much common sense?[/p][/quote]Can I just ask why you call these people 'parasites' - all they are doing is living off the land - COMMON LAND! Do you realise that we live in a country where we are forbidden to build a shelter for ourselves or be self sufficient, i.e. living off what nature gave us? I'm sick of seeing these comments every time travellers are mentioned. Just because they don't conform to the way of life that is forced upon us by the powers-that-be they are slated. All they want is an alternative to the accepted norm - i.e buy a house and be slaves to the bank (mortgage) or rent and be a slave to a parasitic landlord. THEY are the parasites (bankers and landlords who capitalise on the monopoly they hold) not these people who just want to live peaceful lives and be self sufficient. The usual 'look at the mess they leave behind' argument doesn't hold water either. Where are they supposed to dump their waste? It isn't as if they have anywhere to a) dispose of their rubbish b) legally stay without hindrance or c) live peaceably. You state 'criminal behaviour' they are not breaking the law and are therefore not criminals. You may want to familiarise yourself with 'common law'. Leave them alone.[/p][/quote]Are you serious, or just stupid? These 'travellers' regularly BREAK INTO areas of land where vehicles are not permitted. This is ILLEGAL. You say that we should accept people with an alternative lifestyle - yet said lifestyle centres around breaking the law on a regular basis, tax evasion and intimidating behviour. If I was to break into your property and set up camp on it claiming it was my lifestyle, I bet you'd be the first to complain! speedy231278
  • Score: 8

12:13pm Mon 28 Jul 14

summertime49 says...

speedy231278 wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
Minty Fresh wrote: Hilarious! What are the Council actually doing to stop these nomadic parasites pitching up on our open spaces? Very little it would seem. Just like this pathetic excuse for a newspaper, and it's totally anonymous Editor, when it comes to lobbying politicians etc for a law change that would see these undesirables brought to book for their criminal behaviour. I have a serious question though, why can't the courts state that an eviction order stands for ALL Council/public open spaces in the local area? That way surely the Police would have the power to move on/arrest them immediately? Or does that solution require too much common sense?
Can I just ask why you call these people 'parasites' - all they are doing is living off the land - COMMON LAND! Do you realise that we live in a country where we are forbidden to build a shelter for ourselves or be self sufficient, i.e. living off what nature gave us? I'm sick of seeing these comments every time travellers are mentioned. Just because they don't conform to the way of life that is forced upon us by the powers-that-be they are slated. All they want is an alternative to the accepted norm - i.e buy a house and be slaves to the bank (mortgage) or rent and be a slave to a parasitic landlord. THEY are the parasites (bankers and landlords who capitalise on the monopoly they hold) not these people who just want to live peaceful lives and be self sufficient. The usual 'look at the mess they leave behind' argument doesn't hold water either. Where are they supposed to dump their waste? It isn't as if they have anywhere to a) dispose of their rubbish b) legally stay without hindrance or c) live peaceably. You state 'criminal behaviour' they are not breaking the law and are therefore not criminals. You may want to familiarise yourself with 'common law'. Leave them alone.
Are you serious, or just stupid? These 'travellers' regularly BREAK INTO areas of land where vehicles are not permitted. This is ILLEGAL. You say that we should accept people with an alternative lifestyle - yet said lifestyle centres around breaking the law on a regular basis, tax evasion and intimidating behviour. If I was to break into your property and set up camp on it claiming it was my lifestyle, I bet you'd be the first to complain!
The travellers go out of their way to be antisocial and intimidating. There are places that they can take their rubbish or use the toilet but they prefer to just dump in a public place, what kind of people defaecate in public places!! I agree let Bournemouth mum have them in her garden if she is so supportive of them.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: Hilarious! What are the Council actually doing to stop these nomadic parasites pitching up on our open spaces? Very little it would seem. Just like this pathetic excuse for a newspaper, and it's totally anonymous Editor, when it comes to lobbying politicians etc for a law change that would see these undesirables brought to book for their criminal behaviour. I have a serious question though, why can't the courts state that an eviction order stands for ALL Council/public open spaces in the local area? That way surely the Police would have the power to move on/arrest them immediately? Or does that solution require too much common sense?[/p][/quote]Can I just ask why you call these people 'parasites' - all they are doing is living off the land - COMMON LAND! Do you realise that we live in a country where we are forbidden to build a shelter for ourselves or be self sufficient, i.e. living off what nature gave us? I'm sick of seeing these comments every time travellers are mentioned. Just because they don't conform to the way of life that is forced upon us by the powers-that-be they are slated. All they want is an alternative to the accepted norm - i.e buy a house and be slaves to the bank (mortgage) or rent and be a slave to a parasitic landlord. THEY are the parasites (bankers and landlords who capitalise on the monopoly they hold) not these people who just want to live peaceful lives and be self sufficient. The usual 'look at the mess they leave behind' argument doesn't hold water either. Where are they supposed to dump their waste? It isn't as if they have anywhere to a) dispose of their rubbish b) legally stay without hindrance or c) live peaceably. You state 'criminal behaviour' they are not breaking the law and are therefore not criminals. You may want to familiarise yourself with 'common law'. Leave them alone.[/p][/quote]Are you serious, or just stupid? These 'travellers' regularly BREAK INTO areas of land where vehicles are not permitted. This is ILLEGAL. You say that we should accept people with an alternative lifestyle - yet said lifestyle centres around breaking the law on a regular basis, tax evasion and intimidating behviour. If I was to break into your property and set up camp on it claiming it was my lifestyle, I bet you'd be the first to complain![/p][/quote]The travellers go out of their way to be antisocial and intimidating. There are places that they can take their rubbish or use the toilet but they prefer to just dump in a public place, what kind of people defaecate in public places!! I agree let Bournemouth mum have them in her garden if she is so supportive of them. summertime49
  • Score: 6

12:19pm Mon 28 Jul 14

summertime49 says...

Please go to http://epetitions.di
rect.gov.uk/petition
s/61822 and sign the petition lets get something done to change the law and stop this happening every summer!!
Please go to http://epetitions.di rect.gov.uk/petition s/61822 and sign the petition lets get something done to change the law and stop this happening every summer!! summertime49
  • Score: 4

12:25pm Mon 28 Jul 14

canfordcherry says...

fedupwithjobsworths wrote:
Baysider wrote:
forest-dweller wrote:
I guess another month of this until they move up to the Steam Fair.
...or until people stop agreeing to dodgy, cash in hand work. If there's nothing coming in they will move on almost immediately.
Apart from the steam fair who else employs them, I can't imagine anyone doing so.
Unfortunately the pray on the elderly and vulnerable.
Or what were the story's last year, that they just turn up when you are out, carry out shoddy work and demand payment upon you return, with the police advising people just to pay up to get rid of them if I remember rightly!!!
[quote][p][bold]fedupwithjobsworths[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest-dweller[/bold] wrote: I guess another month of this until they move up to the Steam Fair.[/p][/quote]...or until people stop agreeing to dodgy, cash in hand work. If there's nothing coming in they will move on almost immediately.[/p][/quote]Apart from the steam fair who else employs them, I can't imagine anyone doing so.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately the pray on the elderly and vulnerable. Or what were the story's last year, that they just turn up when you are out, carry out shoddy work and demand payment upon you return, with the police advising people just to pay up to get rid of them if I remember rightly!!! canfordcherry
  • Score: 5

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