Teenager Joel Norris fined for posting a selfie from the dock at Bournemouth Magistrates' Court

"Lads in the court box lol" - the selfie that landed a teenager with a fine

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A TEENAGER who took a “selfie” while sitting in the court dock and then posted it on Twitter has been fined.

Joel Norris, 18, took a picture of him and his four co-defendants and put it on Twitter with the caption “Lads in the court box lol.”

He was reprimanded by presiding magistrate Kathleen McNally, who said: “I go out to talk to schools about the long-term effects of appearing in court and it's not anything to laugh out loud about, I can assure you.”

Prosecutor Heather Jackson said Norris, of Rowan Close, Sandford, Wareham, had been in Bournemouth Magistrates Court on April 4 this year when he took the photo.

“While sitting in the dock and during proceedings he appears to have taken a photograph of himself using a mobile phone,” she said.

“That photograph was posted on his Twitter account on April 8 with the caption 'Lads in the court box lol.'

“He was contacted by police and interviewed on May 28 and accepted he had taken the photograph. He said he had not turned his mobile phone off and when he swiped his phone to open it, it was on camera mode so he took a photograph of himself.

“He didn't appreciate at the time he was doing anything wrong; he thought it was a funny picture.”

Richard Middleton, mitigating, told Bournemouth Magistrates Court: “It was a very foolish act done with little thought at the time.”

He said Norris had shown genuine remorse and written a letter of apology and added: “In this age of 'selfies' he didn't fully appreciate the impact this has on the victims of criminal proceedings who might view it on social media.”

Norris pleaded guilty to taking a photograph in a criminal court of a party to proceedings and guilty to publishing that photograph. He was fined £145 for each offence, £85 in costs and a victim surcharge of £29.

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4:40pm Wed 2 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

Who was the victim?
Who was the victim? speedy231278
  • Score: -36

5:02pm Wed 2 Jul 14

GeorgeW64 says...

Absolutely ridiculous, the only harm done was to himself letting the world know he was a criminal. Anything to waste Court and police time and make a fast buck.
Absolutely ridiculous, the only harm done was to himself letting the world know he was a criminal. Anything to waste Court and police time and make a fast buck. GeorgeW64
  • Score: -111

5:04pm Wed 2 Jul 14

skydriver says...

Quite right too, we have rule and respect of the courts in this country.
Those who don't like these rules and regulations, of the land then LEAVE.
Quite right too, we have rule and respect of the courts in this country. Those who don't like these rules and regulations, of the land then LEAVE. skydriver
  • Score: 131

5:06pm Wed 2 Jul 14

MPK83i says...

I would have locked him up! Idiot.
I would have locked him up! Idiot. MPK83i
  • Score: 95

5:13pm Wed 2 Jul 14

contric says...

if you look at the poole court cases 2 people fined £110 for drink driving while this kid was fined £290 for being silly i know which people pose a bigger problem to me
if you look at the poole court cases 2 people fined £110 for drink driving while this kid was fined £290 for being silly i know which people pose a bigger problem to me contric
  • Score: 42

5:18pm Wed 2 Jul 14

ol'bag lady says...

Why was he allowed to have it with him?
Why was he allowed to have it with him? ol'bag lady
  • Score: 78

5:22pm Wed 2 Jul 14

holdinkæft says...

skydriver wrote:
Quite right too, we have rule and respect of the courts in this country.
Those who don't like these rules and regulations, of the land then LEAVE.
Respect of the courts, you must be joking.
they are a waste of time and money. thats why people are emigrating in droves. travellers can do what they like, its all a joke.
[quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: Quite right too, we have rule and respect of the courts in this country. Those who don't like these rules and regulations, of the land then LEAVE.[/p][/quote]Respect of the courts, you must be joking. they are a waste of time and money. thats why people are emigrating in droves. travellers can do what they like, its all a joke. holdinkæft
  • Score: -41

5:25pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Bob49 says...

speedy231278 wrote:
Who was the victim?
ln dear, you don't appear to be very bright
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: Who was the victim?[/p][/quote]ln dear, you don't appear to be very bright Bob49
  • Score: 33

5:55pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Eddie's dog says...

Bob49 wrote:
speedy231278 wrote:
Who was the victim?
ln dear, you don't appear to be very bright
Is ... In dear.... a country in South Asia?
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: Who was the victim?[/p][/quote]ln dear, you don't appear to be very bright[/p][/quote]Is ... In dear.... a country in South Asia? Eddie's dog
  • Score: 24

6:19pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

holdinkæft wrote:
skydriver wrote:
Quite right too, we have rule and respect of the courts in this country.
Those who don't like these rules and regulations, of the land then LEAVE.
Respect of the courts, you must be joking.
they are a waste of time and money. thats why people are emigrating in droves. travellers can do what they like, its all a joke.
People aren't emigrating fast enough as the UK population rose by 200,000 in the past year.
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: Quite right too, we have rule and respect of the courts in this country. Those who don't like these rules and regulations, of the land then LEAVE.[/p][/quote]Respect of the courts, you must be joking. they are a waste of time and money. thats why people are emigrating in droves. travellers can do what they like, its all a joke.[/p][/quote]People aren't emigrating fast enough as the UK population rose by 200,000 in the past year. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 28

6:24pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Vortigern says...

skydriver wrote:
Quite right too, we have rule and respect of the courts in this country.
Those who don't like these rules and regulations, of the land then LEAVE.
While I agree with you about respect for the court, are you seriously suggesting that British citizens be deported for a minor crime like this?

Or are you suggesting that all criminals are foreigners?
[quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: Quite right too, we have rule and respect of the courts in this country. Those who don't like these rules and regulations, of the land then LEAVE.[/p][/quote]While I agree with you about respect for the court, are you seriously suggesting that British citizens be deported for a minor crime like this? Or are you suggesting that all criminals are foreigners? Vortigern
  • Score: 19

7:17pm Wed 2 Jul 14

P Barker says...

Surely if you cant do as your told, then your toys should be taken away from you. If you act like a child you may as well treat him like one.
Surely if you cant do as your told, then your toys should be taken away from you. If you act like a child you may as well treat him like one. P Barker
  • Score: 37

7:38pm Wed 2 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

GeorgeW64 wrote:
Absolutely ridiculous, the only harm done was to himself letting the world know he was a criminal. Anything to waste Court and police time and make a fast buck.
This doesn't count as contempt of court in your book then? So what does, punching a magistrate in the face?
[quote][p][bold]GeorgeW64[/bold] wrote: Absolutely ridiculous, the only harm done was to himself letting the world know he was a criminal. Anything to waste Court and police time and make a fast buck.[/p][/quote]This doesn't count as contempt of court in your book then? So what does, punching a magistrate in the face? breamoreboy
  • Score: 32

9:28pm Wed 2 Jul 14

MikeGB says...

Easy to pick out the individuals who drag this country down from the comments on here....
Easy to pick out the individuals who drag this country down from the comments on here.... MikeGB
  • Score: 19

10:43pm Wed 2 Jul 14

StVallier says...

He's called Joel, with a name like that what hope has he got?
I blame the parents, he was named after Billy Joel.
He's An Innocent Man!
He's called Joel, with a name like that what hope has he got? I blame the parents, he was named after Billy Joel. He's An Innocent Man! StVallier
  • Score: 1

10:58pm Wed 2 Jul 14

HRH of Boscombe says...

skydriver wrote:
Quite right too, we have rule and respect of the courts in this country.
Those who don't like these rules and regulations, of the land then LEAVE.
We don't though do we? Justice and the courts in this country are a joke to everyone.
.
I'm sure he really respects the court now after that nasty fine :/
[quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: Quite right too, we have rule and respect of the courts in this country. Those who don't like these rules and regulations, of the land then LEAVE.[/p][/quote]We don't though do we? Justice and the courts in this country are a joke to everyone. . I'm sure he really respects the court now after that nasty fine :/ HRH of Boscombe
  • Score: -5

11:14pm Wed 2 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

speedy231278 wrote:
Who was the victim?
What?

Was that a joke? (I missed it)
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: Who was the victim?[/p][/quote]What? Was that a joke? (I missed it) scrumpyjack
  • Score: 2

11:18pm Wed 2 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
skydriver wrote:
Quite right too, we have rule and respect of the courts in this country.
Those who don't like these rules and regulations, of the land then LEAVE.
Respect of the courts, you must be joking.
they are a waste of time and money. thats why people are emigrating in droves. travellers can do what they like, its all a joke.
People aren't emigrating fast enough as the UK population rose by 200,000 in the past year.
Ahem, 'officially'.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: Quite right too, we have rule and respect of the courts in this country. Those who don't like these rules and regulations, of the land then LEAVE.[/p][/quote]Respect of the courts, you must be joking. they are a waste of time and money. thats why people are emigrating in droves. travellers can do what they like, its all a joke.[/p][/quote]People aren't emigrating fast enough as the UK population rose by 200,000 in the past year.[/p][/quote]Ahem, 'officially'. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 4

11:24pm Wed 2 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

Just take a back step all those supporting this moron.

He is 18.

He is in court.

Me at 18? No angel but would have been bricking it.

Him? "lol"

Hmmmm there's someone on the path to victory........
Just take a back step all those supporting this moron. He is 18. He is in court. Me at 18? No angel but would have been bricking it. Him? "lol" Hmmmm there's someone on the path to victory........ scrumpyjack
  • Score: 38

3:53am Thu 3 Jul 14

Chris@Bmouth says...

holdinkæft wrote:
skydriver wrote: Quite right too, we have rule and respect of the courts in this country. Those who don't like these rules and regulations, of the land then LEAVE.
Respect of the courts, you must be joking. they are a waste of time and money. thats why people are emigrating in droves. travellers can do what they like, its all a joke.
I don't understand why cameras aren't allowed into court rooms.
But amongst other ridiculous rules that the United Kingdom has, I therefore left.
[quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: Quite right too, we have rule and respect of the courts in this country. Those who don't like these rules and regulations, of the land then LEAVE.[/p][/quote]Respect of the courts, you must be joking. they are a waste of time and money. thats why people are emigrating in droves. travellers can do what they like, its all a joke.[/p][/quote]I don't understand why cameras aren't allowed into court rooms. But amongst other ridiculous rules that the United Kingdom has, I therefore left. Chris@Bmouth
  • Score: -24

10:08am Thu 3 Jul 14

bosco1 says...

Went to visit my old school in east london last year, formerly known as Royal Wanstead School E11. In 1971 it closed down and became Snaresbrook crown court. Thought it would be nice to go and see the old building. Went in through the security system as you would expect and was told I could not bring my camera into the building.!! I said I was an ex pupil and hoped to take some photos after some 40 years of leaving.A definate no and I had to hand over my camera untill I left the inside of the building. however once inside the building I did see signs up to the effect taking photos was a contempt of court. Surely Magistrate Courts must have rules that apply on a similar basis.? I assume taking photos on any equipment be it Camera on mobile phone would apply.?
Went to visit my old school in east london last year, formerly known as Royal Wanstead School E11. In 1971 it closed down and became Snaresbrook crown court. Thought it would be nice to go and see the old building. Went in through the security system as you would expect and was told I could not bring my camera into the building.!! I said I was an ex pupil and hoped to take some photos after some 40 years of leaving.A definate no and I had to hand over my camera untill I left the inside of the building. however once inside the building I did see signs up to the effect taking photos was a contempt of court. Surely Magistrate Courts must have rules that apply on a similar basis.? I assume taking photos on any equipment be it Camera on mobile phone would apply.? bosco1
  • Score: 9

10:49am Thu 3 Jul 14

Frank28 says...

Taking a mobile phone or recording equipment in to Court could have even more serious implications. Electronic gadgets should be banned from Court rooms.
Taking a mobile phone or recording equipment in to Court could have even more serious implications. Electronic gadgets should be banned from Court rooms. Frank28
  • Score: 12

11:10am Thu 3 Jul 14

hamworthygirl says...

If i was his parents i would confiscate the phone and never let him have another one for year because im guessing they pay for it.
If i was his parents i would confiscate the phone and never let him have another one for year because im guessing they pay for it. hamworthygirl
  • Score: 9

11:23am Thu 3 Jul 14

simnic says...

why has this even made it into the newspaper...who cares.
why has this even made it into the newspaper...who cares. simnic
  • Score: -10

11:31am Thu 3 Jul 14

Marty Caine UKIP says...

So what is the difference between him taking a photo of himself in court and tweeting it and the Echo publishing his name and address in the paper to say he has been in court. It appears his only real offence was the LOL and I suppose that would really depend on what he was actually in court for in the first place. To fine him what is probably equal to a weeks wages I find a little over the top.
So what is the difference between him taking a photo of himself in court and tweeting it and the Echo publishing his name and address in the paper to say he has been in court. It appears his only real offence was the LOL and I suppose that would really depend on what he was actually in court for in the first place. To fine him what is probably equal to a weeks wages I find a little over the top. Marty Caine UKIP
  • Score: -12

11:52am Thu 3 Jul 14

Phixer says...

The comments above don't bode well for the future of this country when so many cannot see a contempt of court, ie., a contempt for the society we live in; contempt for others and a lack of respect.

There are those above who think the fine is too harsh for such contempt but haven't stopped to think that maybe, just maybe, the fines they are comparing are too cheap.

And I have to rely on these morons to finance my pension!
The comments above don't bode well for the future of this country when so many cannot see a contempt of court, ie., a contempt for the society we live in; contempt for others and a lack of respect. There are those above who think the fine is too harsh for such contempt but haven't stopped to think that maybe, just maybe, the fines they are comparing are too cheap. And I have to rely on these morons to finance my pension! Phixer
  • Score: 19

11:58am Thu 3 Jul 14

skydriver says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
holdinkæft wrote:
skydriver wrote:
Quite right too, we have rule and respect of the courts in this country.
Those who don't like these rules and regulations, of the land then LEAVE.
Respect of the courts, you must be joking.
they are a waste of time and money. thats why people are emigrating in droves. travellers can do what they like, its all a joke.
People aren't emigrating fast enough as the UK population rose by 200,000 in the past year.
Ahem, 'officially'.
I'm not saying either , I'm suggesting if folk, whatever their nationalality, don't like it in this country, with our rules and regs, then go find another place to live that's suits their way of life.
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]holdinkæft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: Quite right too, we have rule and respect of the courts in this country. Those who don't like these rules and regulations, of the land then LEAVE.[/p][/quote]Respect of the courts, you must be joking. they are a waste of time and money. thats why people are emigrating in droves. travellers can do what they like, its all a joke.[/p][/quote]People aren't emigrating fast enough as the UK population rose by 200,000 in the past year.[/p][/quote]Ahem, 'officially'.[/p][/quote]I'm not saying either , I'm suggesting if folk, whatever their nationalality, don't like it in this country, with our rules and regs, then go find another place to live that's suits their way of life. skydriver
  • Score: 5

12:04pm Thu 3 Jul 14

scrumpyjack says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
So what is the difference between him taking a photo of himself in court and tweeting it and the Echo publishing his name and address in the paper to say he has been in court. It appears his only real offence was the LOL and I suppose that would really depend on what he was actually in court for in the first place. To fine him what is probably equal to a weeks wages I find a little over the top.
Err the fact that he issued a photo of the court.

(The whole point of the story, do keep up)
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: So what is the difference between him taking a photo of himself in court and tweeting it and the Echo publishing his name and address in the paper to say he has been in court. It appears his only real offence was the LOL and I suppose that would really depend on what he was actually in court for in the first place. To fine him what is probably equal to a weeks wages I find a little over the top.[/p][/quote]Err the fact that he issued a photo of the court. (The whole point of the story, do keep up) scrumpyjack
  • Score: 8

12:41pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

Dick.
Dick. Letcommonsenseprevail
  • Score: 5

2:04pm Thu 3 Jul 14

liveinhope says...

I notice no-one has asked why he was there in the first place.

Easy to say that this is a minor offence but contempt isn't treated like that.

If "lol" was said whilst they were in the dock for beating up a student or smashing up a pub, would we be suggesting that everyone should have a sense of humour about it?
I notice no-one has asked why he was there in the first place. Easy to say that this is a minor offence but contempt isn't treated like that. If "lol" was said whilst they were in the dock for beating up a student or smashing up a pub, would we be suggesting that everyone should have a sense of humour about it? liveinhope
  • Score: 7

2:06pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Minty Fresh says...

skydriver wrote:
Quite right too, we have rule and respect of the courts in this country.
Those who don't like these rules and regulations, of the land then LEAVE.
I think it's clear the lad is a bit of a prat who should have been just ticked off and it left at that. Complete waste of court and police time to press charges against a muppet who didn't have a clue about court rules. And as he's a UK citizen, telling him to move to another country is not really viable is it, considering how difficult it is to emigrate anywhere these days.
[quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: Quite right too, we have rule and respect of the courts in this country. Those who don't like these rules and regulations, of the land then LEAVE.[/p][/quote]I think it's clear the lad is a bit of a prat who should have been just ticked off and it left at that. Complete waste of court and police time to press charges against a muppet who didn't have a clue about court rules. And as he's a UK citizen, telling him to move to another country is not really viable is it, considering how difficult it is to emigrate anywhere these days. Minty Fresh
  • Score: -1

3:40pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Echo & the Funnymen says...

"LADS IN COURT" Reminds me of a old reggae record!
"LADS IN COURT" Reminds me of a old reggae record! Echo & the Funnymen
  • Score: -1

4:47pm Thu 3 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

Minty Fresh wrote:
skydriver wrote:
Quite right too, we have rule and respect of the courts in this country.
Those who don't like these rules and regulations, of the land then LEAVE.
I think it's clear the lad is a bit of a prat who should have been just ticked off and it left at that. Complete waste of court and police time to press charges against a muppet who didn't have a clue about court rules. And as he's a UK citizen, telling him to move to another country is not really viable is it, considering how difficult it is to emigrate anywhere these days.
Ignorance is no excuse. I'm just staggered at the number of people who don't see this as contempt. Carry on like this we might as well bin the entire legal apparatus and see how we get on with total anarchy.
[quote][p][bold]Minty Fresh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: Quite right too, we have rule and respect of the courts in this country. Those who don't like these rules and regulations, of the land then LEAVE.[/p][/quote]I think it's clear the lad is a bit of a prat who should have been just ticked off and it left at that. Complete waste of court and police time to press charges against a muppet who didn't have a clue about court rules. And as he's a UK citizen, telling him to move to another country is not really viable is it, considering how difficult it is to emigrate anywhere these days.[/p][/quote]Ignorance is no excuse. I'm just staggered at the number of people who don't see this as contempt. Carry on like this we might as well bin the entire legal apparatus and see how we get on with total anarchy. breamoreboy
  • Score: 10

4:56pm Thu 3 Jul 14

suzigirl says...

Should of had his phone confiscated and crushed!
Should of had his phone confiscated and crushed! suzigirl
  • Score: 8

5:15pm Thu 3 Jul 14

exocet says...

**** it! He got off too lightly.Birch the cad!
And that's just for a first offence
**** it! He got off too lightly.Birch the cad! And that's just for a first offence exocet
  • Score: 3

5:44pm Thu 3 Jul 14

bogtrotter says...

Why do people right 'lol' if it's not in response to anything? Doesn't make sense.
Why do people right 'lol' if it's not in response to anything? Doesn't make sense. bogtrotter
  • Score: 1

5:47pm Thu 3 Jul 14

bogtrotter says...

Marty Caine UKIP wrote:
So what is the difference between him taking a photo of himself in court and tweeting it and the Echo publishing his name and address in the paper to say he has been in court. It appears his only real offence was the LOL and I suppose that would really depend on what he was actually in court for in the first place. To fine him what is probably equal to a weeks wages I find a little over the top.
Perhaps it's the lack of respect he's showing the court, where he no doubt is to answer to a crime. Regardless of guilt, it is something to be taken seriously, which this lad clearly doesn't.
[quote][p][bold]Marty Caine UKIP[/bold] wrote: So what is the difference between him taking a photo of himself in court and tweeting it and the Echo publishing his name and address in the paper to say he has been in court. It appears his only real offence was the LOL and I suppose that would really depend on what he was actually in court for in the first place. To fine him what is probably equal to a weeks wages I find a little over the top.[/p][/quote]Perhaps it's the lack of respect he's showing the court, where he no doubt is to answer to a crime. Regardless of guilt, it is something to be taken seriously, which this lad clearly doesn't. bogtrotter
  • Score: 6

6:21pm Thu 3 Jul 14

agp1337 says...

Not really to do with this article, but the picture of the Court from the outside looks awful. Couldn't it have a lick of paint?
Not really to do with this article, but the picture of the Court from the outside looks awful. Couldn't it have a lick of paint? agp1337
  • Score: 3

7:19pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Eddie's dog says...

bogtrotter wrote:
Why do people right 'lol' if it's not in response to anything? Doesn't make sense.
'lack of learning ....'
[quote][p][bold]bogtrotter[/bold] wrote: Why do people right 'lol' if it's not in response to anything? Doesn't make sense.[/p][/quote]'lack of learning ....' Eddie's dog
  • Score: 5

1:08am Fri 4 Jul 14

Echo & the Funnymen says...

agp1337 wrote:
Not really to do with this article, but the picture of the Court from the outside looks awful. Couldn't it have a lick of paint?
lol!
[quote][p][bold]agp1337[/bold] wrote: Not really to do with this article, but the picture of the Court from the outside looks awful. Couldn't it have a lick of paint?[/p][/quote]lol! Echo & the Funnymen
  • Score: 2

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