Jailed: Paedophiles who took pictures of naked children at Bournemouth Air Festival

Philip Taylor

Mark Smith

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A paedophile who took photographs of a naked child on Bournemouth beach has been jailed for six months.

Philip Taylor was one of two men arrested during the town’s annual air festival in 2012 after a police community support officer spotted him snapping images of a young girl playing by the sea.

His co-defendant, Mark Smith, 54, of Chitlee Manor, Liphook, Hampshire, was found guilty of four counts of making indecent images of a child, four of possessing indecent images of children, and breach of a Sexual Offences Prevention Order (SOPO) imposed in 2007 following a three-day trial.

He was sentenced to eight months imprisonment on May 30 this year.

But 55-year-old Taylor of Summerwood Lane, Nottingham, admitted 20 charges relating to the possession and making of indecent photographs in November 2013, and has just been sentenced at Dorchester Crown Court.

Timothy Bradbury, who prosecuted during Smith’s trial, said both men were spotted by a PCSO standing together on the beach in Bournemouth on August 30, 2012.

He told the court that, as the officer approached the men, Taylor was taking photographs of a young naked child.

“There was nothing to indicate that she was anything to do with him," said Mr Bradbury.

“The PCSO asked him to stop what he was doing.

His camera was taken off him, and officers scrolled through to look at the images. It was apparent that there were number of images of naked children [on the camera], and from the context it was evident those pictures had been taken that day.”

The PCSO then had to “jog” to catch up with Smith, who had turned and walked away while his friend was being questioned, the court heard.

Although Smith also had a camera with him, the memory card was not inside it, and he told police during interview that he was visiting the annual festival to take photographs of boats and planes.

Officers then attended his home address, and the court was told that 138 indecent images of children were found on his laptop.Mr Bradbury said the images ranged from level one - depicting children without clothes on – to level four, a description for more serious photographs.

However, Smith said he knew nothing about the images, and alleged that they may have been downloaded by Taylor or his son.

• Taylor's 'very bad record'

Following his arrest, Taylor was interviewed twice and admitted he had taken a number of images on the beach, including one of a naked girl aged around five who was standing with her parents.

The defendant was jailed for nine years in 2000 for a number of serious sexual offences relating to children under 16.

Mitigating, Robert Grey said Taylor was seeking to address his problems through the Lucy Faithfull Foundation, a charity dedicated to reducing the risk of children being sexually abused.

“He’s admitted his guilt – he’s not the sort to shirk away from his responsibility,” he added.

However, Judge Roger Jarvis said the defendant had a “very bad record” before sentencing him to six months in prison.

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6:55am Thu 19 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Got 9 years 14 years ago but only just decided to join a group to address his problem recently Makes you wonder how manykids he and his mate have abused in the mean time .he is obviously part of a paedophile ring that seems to have got away with it out in 3 months And probably given a house on an estate with loads of kids .you get more for patting a flight attendants bottom.
Got 9 years 14 years ago but only just decided to join a group to address his problem recently Makes you wonder how manykids he and his mate have abused in the mean time .he is obviously part of a paedophile ring that seems to have got away with it out in 3 months And probably given a house on an estate with loads of kids .you get more for patting a flight attendants bottom. kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 50

6:59am Thu 19 Jun 14

Huey says...

You can't help people like this. They need to be lined up and shot.
You can't help people like this. They need to be lined up and shot. Huey
  • Score: 97

7:05am Thu 19 Jun 14

BIGTONE says...

I wouldn't even let any of em near my dog.......especially smiffy.
I wouldn't even let any of em near my dog.......especially smiffy. BIGTONE
  • Score: 26

7:35am Thu 19 Jun 14

BournemouthMum says...

Disgusting. However, why are parents allowing their children to be naket in such a public place? I wouldn't walk around naked in public and wouldn't want my children to either. We all know these pervs exist - there are many who are never caught, and even if they don't actually take photos they are deriving pleasure from seeing naked kids running around.

Parents - cover your kids up!
Disgusting. However, why are parents allowing their children to be naket in such a public place? I wouldn't walk around naked in public and wouldn't want my children to either. We all know these pervs exist - there are many who are never caught, and even if they don't actually take photos they are deriving pleasure from seeing naked kids running around. Parents - cover your kids up! BournemouthMum
  • Score: 128

8:15am Thu 19 Jun 14

rudolph_hucker says...

Taylor looks like Alan Shearer
Taylor looks like Alan Shearer rudolph_hucker
  • Score: -23

8:18am Thu 19 Jun 14

retry69 says...

Over the past 12 months we have read about several people like these two but who have been allowed to walk free from court by certain judges as "it was not in the publics interest to jail them" I would imagine after reading this it is in everyone's interest to remove these type of perverts from our streets as they seem very likely to continue their unacceptable behaviour.
Over the past 12 months we have read about several people like these two but who have been allowed to walk free from court by certain judges as "it was not in the publics interest to jail them" I would imagine after reading this it is in everyone's interest to remove these type of perverts from our streets as they seem very likely to continue their unacceptable behaviour. retry69
  • Score: 37

8:23am Thu 19 Jun 14

Omni314 says...

I can't help but feel sorry for the mentally ill, especially people like this, and what absurd lives they must lead.
I can't help but feel sorry for the mentally ill, especially people like this, and what absurd lives they must lead. Omni314
  • Score: -57

8:29am Thu 19 Jun 14

afcbtintin says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
Disgusting. However, why are parents allowing their children to be naket in such a public place? I wouldn't walk around naked in public and wouldn't want my children to either. We all know these pervs exist - there are many who are never caught, and even if they don't actually take photos they are deriving pleasure from seeing naked kids running around.

Parents - cover your kids up!
If we can't let our kids play "au naturelle" on the beach then it is admitting defeat against these perverts!

By the way, has anyone commended the PCSO their alertness ?
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. However, why are parents allowing their children to be naket in such a public place? I wouldn't walk around naked in public and wouldn't want my children to either. We all know these pervs exist - there are many who are never caught, and even if they don't actually take photos they are deriving pleasure from seeing naked kids running around. Parents - cover your kids up![/p][/quote]If we can't let our kids play "au naturelle" on the beach then it is admitting defeat against these perverts! By the way, has anyone commended the PCSO their alertness ? afcbtintin
  • Score: 58

8:50am Thu 19 Jun 14

Miss_Lizzie says...

afcbtintin wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
Disgusting. However, why are parents allowing their children to be naket in such a public place? I wouldn't walk around naked in public and wouldn't want my children to either. We all know these pervs exist - there are many who are never caught, and even if they don't actually take photos they are deriving pleasure from seeing naked kids running around.

Parents - cover your kids up!
If we can't let our kids play "au naturelle" on the beach then it is admitting defeat against these perverts!

By the way, has anyone commended the PCSO their alertness ?
Every summer I see parents allowing their children to play naked on the beach, yes it's free natural and lovely but you are inviting these people to come and take intimate photos of them which will be used around the world. So if you don't want a zoom lens taking pictures of your children's intimate areas please put some pants on them.

Local families seem very aware it is visitors who seem to bring their overprotected children to the beach and let them run around naked.

I have mentioned it to mothers when I have spotted someone looking at their children and I have only ever had thanks and 'Oh my goodness I didn't think about that' Perhaps we should have signs advising parents to keep pants on their children, sad but necessary as cameras are everywhere.
[quote][p][bold]afcbtintin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. However, why are parents allowing their children to be naket in such a public place? I wouldn't walk around naked in public and wouldn't want my children to either. We all know these pervs exist - there are many who are never caught, and even if they don't actually take photos they are deriving pleasure from seeing naked kids running around. Parents - cover your kids up![/p][/quote]If we can't let our kids play "au naturelle" on the beach then it is admitting defeat against these perverts! By the way, has anyone commended the PCSO their alertness ?[/p][/quote]Every summer I see parents allowing their children to play naked on the beach, yes it's free natural and lovely but you are inviting these people to come and take intimate photos of them which will be used around the world. So if you don't want a zoom lens taking pictures of your children's intimate areas please put some pants on them. Local families seem very aware it is visitors who seem to bring their overprotected children to the beach and let them run around naked. I have mentioned it to mothers when I have spotted someone looking at their children and I have only ever had thanks and 'Oh my goodness I didn't think about that' Perhaps we should have signs advising parents to keep pants on their children, sad but necessary as cameras are everywhere. Miss_Lizzie
  • Score: 41

9:05am Thu 19 Jun 14

Pringle1967 says...

I totally agree with Bournemouth mum!! Was in Swanage a few weeks ago, there was a family on the beach but the little girl was runnin round naked yet her younger brother had swimmers on!! Surely the parents could of made her wear even just her knickers! ! These days you don't know who's watching do you!!
When my niece was small, was summer so she was playin in a paddling pool in parents back garden naked when a family friend called round. Learning she was naked he refused 2 take his camera in the house or go in garden himself without niece having even just a pair of knickers on!! Good on him I say!! :-)
I totally agree with Bournemouth mum!! Was in Swanage a few weeks ago, there was a family on the beach but the little girl was runnin round naked yet her younger brother had swimmers on!! Surely the parents could of made her wear even just her knickers! ! These days you don't know who's watching do you!! When my niece was small, was summer so she was playin in a paddling pool in parents back garden naked when a family friend called round. Learning she was naked he refused 2 take his camera in the house or go in garden himself without niece having even just a pair of knickers on!! Good on him I say!! :-) Pringle1967
  • Score: 14

9:33am Thu 19 Jun 14

MotorbikeSam says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
Disgusting. However, why are parents allowing their children to be naket in such a public place? I wouldn't walk around naked in public and wouldn't want my children to either. We all know these pervs exist - there are many who are never caught, and even if they don't actually take photos they are deriving pleasure from seeing naked kids running around.

Parents - cover your kids up!
wake up Bmth Mum, don't turn the children or their parents into the bad
guys we know who is to blame here ..Taylor and smith .
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. However, why are parents allowing their children to be naket in such a public place? I wouldn't walk around naked in public and wouldn't want my children to either. We all know these pervs exist - there are many who are never caught, and even if they don't actually take photos they are deriving pleasure from seeing naked kids running around. Parents - cover your kids up![/p][/quote]wake up Bmth Mum, don't turn the children or their parents into the bad guys we know who is to blame here ..Taylor and smith . MotorbikeSam
  • Score: 28

9:33am Thu 19 Jun 14

rozmister says...

Pringle1967 wrote:
I totally agree with Bournemouth mum!! Was in Swanage a few weeks ago, there was a family on the beach but the little girl was runnin round naked yet her younger brother had swimmers on!! Surely the parents could of made her wear even just her knickers! ! These days you don't know who's watching do you!!
When my niece was small, was summer so she was playin in a paddling pool in parents back garden naked when a family friend called round. Learning she was naked he refused 2 take his camera in the house or go in garden himself without niece having even just a pair of knickers on!! Good on him I say!! :-)
How sad and confusing for your young niece that a male family friend wouldn't even go near her if she didn't wear her knickers. I understand why but what a depressing view of life to show children from an early age - your naked body is a risk, it could be sexy, keep your pants on at all times. Children shouldn't have to think about that.
[quote][p][bold]Pringle1967[/bold] wrote: I totally agree with Bournemouth mum!! Was in Swanage a few weeks ago, there was a family on the beach but the little girl was runnin round naked yet her younger brother had swimmers on!! Surely the parents could of made her wear even just her knickers! ! These days you don't know who's watching do you!! When my niece was small, was summer so she was playin in a paddling pool in parents back garden naked when a family friend called round. Learning she was naked he refused 2 take his camera in the house or go in garden himself without niece having even just a pair of knickers on!! Good on him I say!! :-)[/p][/quote]How sad and confusing for your young niece that a male family friend wouldn't even go near her if she didn't wear her knickers. I understand why but what a depressing view of life to show children from an early age - your naked body is a risk, it could be sexy, keep your pants on at all times. Children shouldn't have to think about that. rozmister
  • Score: 37

9:34am Thu 19 Jun 14

Bryan72 says...

dirty scum, should trow away the key,
dirty scum, should trow away the key, Bryan72
  • Score: 8

9:36am Thu 19 Jun 14

retry69 says...

Pringle1967 wrote:
I totally agree with Bournemouth mum!! Was in Swanage a few weeks ago, there was a family on the beach but the little girl was runnin round naked yet her younger brother had swimmers on!! Surely the parents could of made her wear even just her knickers! ! These days you don't know who's watching do you!!
When my niece was small, was summer so she was playin in a paddling pool in parents back garden naked when a family friend called round. Learning she was naked he refused 2 take his camera in the house or go in garden himself without niece having even just a pair of knickers on!! Good on him I say!! :-)
Yes we have had discussion about this sort of thing where I said that last year when my 2 granddaughters were playing in a paddling pool naked I refused to take photos of them obviously enjoying themselves as I was not comfortable with that.It is very sad and I am still unsure if I should feel that way as it seems I feel guilty of doing what was a normal thing to do at one time,very sad :(
[quote][p][bold]Pringle1967[/bold] wrote: I totally agree with Bournemouth mum!! Was in Swanage a few weeks ago, there was a family on the beach but the little girl was runnin round naked yet her younger brother had swimmers on!! Surely the parents could of made her wear even just her knickers! ! These days you don't know who's watching do you!! When my niece was small, was summer so she was playin in a paddling pool in parents back garden naked when a family friend called round. Learning she was naked he refused 2 take his camera in the house or go in garden himself without niece having even just a pair of knickers on!! Good on him I say!! :-)[/p][/quote]Yes we have had discussion about this sort of thing where I said that last year when my 2 granddaughters were playing in a paddling pool naked I refused to take photos of them obviously enjoying themselves as I was not comfortable with that.It is very sad and I am still unsure if I should feel that way as it seems I feel guilty of doing what was a normal thing to do at one time,very sad :( retry69
  • Score: 13

9:56am Thu 19 Jun 14

grazzer says...

Miss Lizzy says parents bring their over protected children to the beach and let them run around naked in which case they are NOT overprotected
Miss Lizzy says parents bring their over protected children to the beach and let them run around naked in which case they are NOT overprotected grazzer
  • Score: 2

9:59am Thu 19 Jun 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

I never judge a book by its cover but I'm going to allow myself to today.

I've not seen such an obvious paedophile face as Smith.

Taylor looks like you're regular daytime Wetherspoons drinker but Smith, dear oh dear, a picture paints a thousand words.
I never judge a book by its cover but I'm going to allow myself to today. I've not seen such an obvious paedophile face as Smith. Taylor looks like you're regular daytime Wetherspoons drinker but Smith, dear oh dear, a picture paints a thousand words. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 6

9:59am Thu 19 Jun 14

alasdair1967 says...

The actions of these perverts have a knock on effect on the innocent ,I for one think very carefully now before taking photographs and i consciously avoid pushing the shutter if there is a child in the view finder just incase accusations fly
The actions of these perverts have a knock on effect on the innocent ,I for one think very carefully now before taking photographs and i consciously avoid pushing the shutter if there is a child in the view finder just incase accusations fly alasdair1967
  • Score: 11

10:02am Thu 19 Jun 14

whersmycuffigcufflinks says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
Disgusting. However, why are parents allowing their children to be naket in such a public place? I wouldn't walk around naked in public and wouldn't want my children to either. We all know these pervs exist - there are many who are never caught, and even if they don't actually take photos they are deriving pleasure from seeing naked kids running around.

Parents - cover your kids up!
thank goodness for that
the white coated man would soon take you away
are you a mad man or what.
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. However, why are parents allowing their children to be naket in such a public place? I wouldn't walk around naked in public and wouldn't want my children to either. We all know these pervs exist - there are many who are never caught, and even if they don't actually take photos they are deriving pleasure from seeing naked kids running around. Parents - cover your kids up![/p][/quote]thank goodness for that the white coated man would soon take you away are you a mad man or what. whersmycuffigcufflinks
  • Score: 8

10:08am Thu 19 Jun 14

Controversial But True says...

Filthy scum perverts!

Bring back the gallows!!!
Filthy scum perverts! Bring back the gallows!!! Controversial But True
  • Score: 3

10:16am Thu 19 Jun 14

BournemouthMum says...

afcbtintin wrote:
BournemouthMum wrote:
Disgusting. However, why are parents allowing their children to be naket in such a public place? I wouldn't walk around naked in public and wouldn't want my children to either. We all know these pervs exist - there are many who are never caught, and even if they don't actually take photos they are deriving pleasure from seeing naked kids running around.

Parents - cover your kids up!
If we can't let our kids play "au naturelle" on the beach then it is admitting defeat against these perverts!

By the way, has anyone commended the PCSO their alertness ?
I can see where you're coming from, but that's not the point is it? It's like leaving your car in the middle of a crime ridden area with the keys in the ignition and coming back to find it has been stolen - who's at fault, you for leaving the keys or the thief for taking it? I'd say that leaving yourself (or children) wide open to crime is inviting it.

Criminals have always existed and always will do. Best to take action to safeguard ourselves I say.
[quote][p][bold]afcbtintin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: Disgusting. However, why are parents allowing their children to be naket in such a public place? I wouldn't walk around naked in public and wouldn't want my children to either. We all know these pervs exist - there are many who are never caught, and even if they don't actually take photos they are deriving pleasure from seeing naked kids running around. Parents - cover your kids up![/p][/quote]If we can't let our kids play "au naturelle" on the beach then it is admitting defeat against these perverts! By the way, has anyone commended the PCSO their alertness ?[/p][/quote]I can see where you're coming from, but that's not the point is it? It's like leaving your car in the middle of a crime ridden area with the keys in the ignition and coming back to find it has been stolen - who's at fault, you for leaving the keys or the thief for taking it? I'd say that leaving yourself (or children) wide open to crime is inviting it. Criminals have always existed and always will do. Best to take action to safeguard ourselves I say. BournemouthMum
  • Score: 0

10:25am Thu 19 Jun 14

technical2654 says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
I never judge a book by its cover but I'm going to allow myself to today.

I've not seen such an obvious paedophile face as Smith.

Taylor looks like you're regular daytime Wetherspoons drinker but Smith, dear oh dear, a picture paints a thousand words.
And what does your face look like?
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: I never judge a book by its cover but I'm going to allow myself to today. I've not seen such an obvious paedophile face as Smith. Taylor looks like you're regular daytime Wetherspoons drinker but Smith, dear oh dear, a picture paints a thousand words.[/p][/quote]And what does your face look like? technical2654
  • Score: 20

10:37am Thu 19 Jun 14

Azphreal says...

alasdair1967 wrote:
The actions of these perverts have a knock on effect on the innocent ,I for one think very carefully now before taking photographs and i consciously avoid pushing the shutter if there is a child in the view finder just incase accusations fly
Photography is my hobby and i feel the same,i was getting dirty looks when the path i was walking down went past a play park and i just had my camera in my hand (was a wooded area with a lot of wildlfe).
[quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: The actions of these perverts have a knock on effect on the innocent ,I for one think very carefully now before taking photographs and i consciously avoid pushing the shutter if there is a child in the view finder just incase accusations fly[/p][/quote]Photography is my hobby and i feel the same,i was getting dirty looks when the path i was walking down went past a play park and i just had my camera in my hand (was a wooded area with a lot of wildlfe). Azphreal
  • Score: 11

10:42am Thu 19 Jun 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

technical2654 wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
I never judge a book by its cover but I'm going to allow myself to today.

I've not seen such an obvious paedophile face as Smith.

Taylor looks like you're regular daytime Wetherspoons drinker but Smith, dear oh dear, a picture paints a thousand words.
And what does your face look like?
A cross between Robert Redford and Gustav Klimpt, not that it's any of your business.
[quote][p][bold]technical2654[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: I never judge a book by its cover but I'm going to allow myself to today. I've not seen such an obvious paedophile face as Smith. Taylor looks like you're regular daytime Wetherspoons drinker but Smith, dear oh dear, a picture paints a thousand words.[/p][/quote]And what does your face look like?[/p][/quote]A cross between Robert Redford and Gustav Klimpt, not that it's any of your business. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 6

11:20am Thu 19 Jun 14

darth vader says...

He's not the first Phil Taylor to show themselves to be a sexual deviant.

"World darts champion Phil Taylor has been found guilty of indecently assaulting two 23-year-old women after a darts exhibition in Fife."

http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/scotland/1203
738.stm
He's not the first Phil Taylor to show themselves to be a sexual deviant. "World darts champion Phil Taylor has been found guilty of indecently assaulting two 23-year-old women after a darts exhibition in Fife." http://news.bbc.co.u k/1/hi/scotland/1203 738.stm darth vader
  • Score: -2

11:36am Thu 19 Jun 14

Adrian XX says...

I am pretty sure he wasn't prosecuted for taking those pictures - the Echo just wants to make the story more salacious. The real crime is the pictures on his laptop.

Nudity in toddlers is and should continue to be innocent. And people are not prosecuted for taking pictures of naked children except where there is some obvious attempt to focus on genitalia.
I am pretty sure he wasn't prosecuted for taking those pictures - the Echo just wants to make the story more salacious. The real crime is the pictures on his laptop. Nudity in toddlers is and should continue to be innocent. And people are not prosecuted for taking pictures of naked children except where there is some obvious attempt to focus on genitalia. Adrian XX
  • Score: 7

11:40am Thu 19 Jun 14

elite50 says...

Omni314 wrote:
I can't help but feel sorry for the mentally ill, especially people like this, and what absurd lives they must lead.
We all feel sorry for the mentally ill but protection of our children comes first.
Any society that can't (or won't) protect its women and children is doomed and rightly so.
Let the scum rot in some cell.
How many times is he allowed to do this type of thing without permanent action being taken?
[quote][p][bold]Omni314[/bold] wrote: I can't help but feel sorry for the mentally ill, especially people like this, and what absurd lives they must lead.[/p][/quote]We all feel sorry for the mentally ill but protection of our children comes first. Any society that can't (or won't) protect its women and children is doomed and rightly so. Let the scum rot in some cell. How many times is he allowed to do this type of thing without permanent action being taken? elite50
  • Score: 9

11:54am Thu 19 Jun 14

Rally says...

During a recent visit to Beaulieu Motor Museum I found myself not taking a photograph of the Rolls Royce Silver Ghost because a small male child was standing next to it at that particular moment.
And this because I was aware that in the minds of some a perfectly acceptable photo of a small male child admiring a classic car becomes something dark and disturbing. . .
How long before every adult male carrying - but not necessarily using - a camera in the vicinity of children is declared automatically and publically a paedophile, and consequently has to prove his innocence in a Court of Law?
With this issue we stand at the top of a very slippery slope.
During a recent visit to Beaulieu Motor Museum I found myself not taking a photograph of the Rolls Royce Silver Ghost because a small male child was standing next to it at that particular moment. And this because I was aware that in the minds of some a perfectly acceptable photo of a small male child admiring a classic car becomes something dark and disturbing. . . How long before every adult male carrying - but not necessarily using - a camera in the vicinity of children is declared automatically and publically a paedophile, and consequently has to prove his innocence in a Court of Law? With this issue we stand at the top of a very slippery slope. Rally
  • Score: 18

12:28pm Thu 19 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Omni314 wrote:
I can't help but feel sorry for the mentally ill, especially people like this, and what absurd lives they must lead.
The only mental health issues these two have is a twisted personality .from which they derive pleasure so are unlikely to seek a cure which is as well because there ain't one
[quote][p][bold]Omni314[/bold] wrote: I can't help but feel sorry for the mentally ill, especially people like this, and what absurd lives they must lead.[/p][/quote]The only mental health issues these two have is a twisted personality .from which they derive pleasure so are unlikely to seek a cure which is as well because there ain't one kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 7

12:31pm Thu 19 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Rally wrote:
During a recent visit to Beaulieu Motor Museum I found myself not taking a photograph of the Rolls Royce Silver Ghost because a small male child was standing next to it at that particular moment.
And this because I was aware that in the minds of some a perfectly acceptable photo of a small male child admiring a classic car becomes something dark and disturbing. . .
How long before every adult male carrying - but not necessarily using - a camera in the vicinity of children is declared automatically and publically a paedophile, and consequently has to prove his innocence in a Court of Law?
With this issue we stand at the top of a very slippery slope.
Should get off if the child is not naked and you haven't got previous. Strange question????
[quote][p][bold]Rally[/bold] wrote: During a recent visit to Beaulieu Motor Museum I found myself not taking a photograph of the Rolls Royce Silver Ghost because a small male child was standing next to it at that particular moment. And this because I was aware that in the minds of some a perfectly acceptable photo of a small male child admiring a classic car becomes something dark and disturbing. . . How long before every adult male carrying - but not necessarily using - a camera in the vicinity of children is declared automatically and publically a paedophile, and consequently has to prove his innocence in a Court of Law? With this issue we stand at the top of a very slippery slope.[/p][/quote]Should get off if the child is not naked and you haven't got previous. Strange question???? kalebmoledirt
  • Score: -5

12:35pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Gingertree says...

I have never understood why parents don't just put a pair of pants or shorts on children at the beach And to all the "why should they have to brigade" This story spells it out loud and clear Also we teach kids that area is private But then put it on display for all the world to see And with the internet that could literally be the whole world!
I have never understood why parents don't just put a pair of pants or shorts on children at the beach And to all the "why should they have to brigade" This story spells it out loud and clear Also we teach kids that area is private But then put it on display for all the world to see And with the internet that could literally be the whole world! Gingertree
  • Score: 22

12:52pm Thu 19 Jun 14

KitKatPuss says...

Omni314 wrote:
I can't help but feel sorry for the mentally ill, especially people like this, and what absurd lives they must lead.
I have a severe mental health disability and associated learning disability....believ
e me I and many others do not need people to feel sorry for us.....I live a perfectly 'normal' life as I work full time in higher education, am studying a degree, am married and my life is certainly not absurd!

And to add being mentally ill is no excuse for committing crimes, especially one like this!
[quote][p][bold]Omni314[/bold] wrote: I can't help but feel sorry for the mentally ill, especially people like this, and what absurd lives they must lead.[/p][/quote]I have a severe mental health disability and associated learning disability....believ e me I and many others do not need people to feel sorry for us.....I live a perfectly 'normal' life as I work full time in higher education, am studying a degree, am married and my life is certainly not absurd! And to add being mentally ill is no excuse for committing crimes, especially one like this! KitKatPuss
  • Score: 20

1:16pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Adrian XX says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
Rally wrote:
During a recent visit to Beaulieu Motor Museum I found myself not taking a photograph of the Rolls Royce Silver Ghost because a small male child was standing next to it at that particular moment.
And this because I was aware that in the minds of some a perfectly acceptable photo of a small male child admiring a classic car becomes something dark and disturbing. . .
How long before every adult male carrying - but not necessarily using - a camera in the vicinity of children is declared automatically and publically a paedophile, and consequently has to prove his innocence in a Court of Law?
With this issue we stand at the top of a very slippery slope.
Should get off if the child is not naked and you haven't got previous. Strange question????
The point is that there is nothing wrong with taking pictures of naked children per se. If there is something wrong with it then we must ban it in all circumstances and not allow parents to have pictures of their newborns naked nor pictures of their toddlers in the bath. We should remember that most actual child sex abuse comes from family members or someone well-known to the child and not from strangers.
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rally[/bold] wrote: During a recent visit to Beaulieu Motor Museum I found myself not taking a photograph of the Rolls Royce Silver Ghost because a small male child was standing next to it at that particular moment. And this because I was aware that in the minds of some a perfectly acceptable photo of a small male child admiring a classic car becomes something dark and disturbing. . . How long before every adult male carrying - but not necessarily using - a camera in the vicinity of children is declared automatically and publically a paedophile, and consequently has to prove his innocence in a Court of Law? With this issue we stand at the top of a very slippery slope.[/p][/quote]Should get off if the child is not naked and you haven't got previous. Strange question????[/p][/quote]The point is that there is nothing wrong with taking pictures of naked children per se. If there is something wrong with it then we must ban it in all circumstances and not allow parents to have pictures of their newborns naked nor pictures of their toddlers in the bath. We should remember that most actual child sex abuse comes from family members or someone well-known to the child and not from strangers. Adrian XX
  • Score: 6

1:19pm Thu 19 Jun 14

M0Z says...

Azphreal wrote:
alasdair1967 wrote:
The actions of these perverts have a knock on effect on the innocent ,I for one think very carefully now before taking photographs and i consciously avoid pushing the shutter if there is a child in the view finder just incase accusations fly
Photography is my hobby and i feel the same,i was getting dirty looks when the path i was walking down went past a play park and i just had my camera in my hand (was a wooded area with a lot of wildlfe).
I agree. My back catalogue of beach photos are mainly taken in winter months for the same reasons. It’s a shame, because people and crowds can add so much atmosphere to photos. If I need to get a long shot showing summer crowds and heat haze etc I make of point of slowly setting up a large tripod.
[quote][p][bold]Azphreal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: The actions of these perverts have a knock on effect on the innocent ,I for one think very carefully now before taking photographs and i consciously avoid pushing the shutter if there is a child in the view finder just incase accusations fly[/p][/quote]Photography is my hobby and i feel the same,i was getting dirty looks when the path i was walking down went past a play park and i just had my camera in my hand (was a wooded area with a lot of wildlfe).[/p][/quote]I agree. My back catalogue of beach photos are mainly taken in winter months for the same reasons. It’s a shame, because people and crowds can add so much atmosphere to photos. If I need to get a long shot showing summer crowds and heat haze etc I make of point of slowly setting up a large tripod. M0Z
  • Score: 4

1:22pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Turtlebay says...

Unfortunately the disbelieving masses, who refuse to believe in God and thus Satan, refuse to understand that sexual perversions are caused wholly by the deviants being possessed by demons!

If the demons were to be removed and the subjects were to willingly accept God in their place, the perversions would stop.

But too many people hate God!
Unfortunately the disbelieving masses, who refuse to believe in God and thus Satan, refuse to understand that sexual perversions are caused wholly by the deviants being possessed by demons! If the demons were to be removed and the subjects were to willingly accept God in their place, the perversions would stop. But too many people hate God! Turtlebay
  • Score: -32

1:26pm Thu 19 Jun 14

alasdair1967 says...

I do recall reading that a school banned parents from taking pictures at a nativity play in fear of these perverts what a sad society we life in
I do recall reading that a school banned parents from taking pictures at a nativity play in fear of these perverts what a sad society we life in alasdair1967
  • Score: 7

1:33pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

Turtlebay wrote:
Unfortunately the disbelieving masses, who refuse to believe in God and thus Satan, refuse to understand that sexual perversions are caused wholly by the deviants being possessed by demons!

If the demons were to be removed and the subjects were to willingly accept God in their place, the perversions would stop.

But too many people hate God!
What rubbish, many of the worst paedophiles have been found working in the Catholic church and I'm sure they believe in God but still couldn't control themselves.

I don't hate God as he doesn't exist.
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: Unfortunately the disbelieving masses, who refuse to believe in God and thus Satan, refuse to understand that sexual perversions are caused wholly by the deviants being possessed by demons! If the demons were to be removed and the subjects were to willingly accept God in their place, the perversions would stop. But too many people hate God![/p][/quote]What rubbish, many of the worst paedophiles have been found working in the Catholic church and I'm sure they believe in God but still couldn't control themselves. I don't hate God as he doesn't exist. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 28

1:41pm Thu 19 Jun 14

alasdair1967 says...

Turtlebay wrote:
Unfortunately the disbelieving masses, who refuse to believe in God and thus Satan, refuse to understand that sexual perversions are caused wholly by the deviants being possessed by demons!

If the demons were to be removed and the subjects were to willingly accept God in their place, the perversions would stop.

But too many people hate God!
All well and good spouting religion sadly there are more peodophiles hiding and being protected behind religion ,how many catholic priests are being protected by the Vatican
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: Unfortunately the disbelieving masses, who refuse to believe in God and thus Satan, refuse to understand that sexual perversions are caused wholly by the deviants being possessed by demons! If the demons were to be removed and the subjects were to willingly accept God in their place, the perversions would stop. But too many people hate God![/p][/quote]All well and good spouting religion sadly there are more peodophiles hiding and being protected behind religion ,how many catholic priests are being protected by the Vatican alasdair1967
  • Score: 18

1:43pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Kinzy says...

Turtlebay wrote:
Unfortunately the disbelieving masses, who refuse to believe in God and thus Satan, refuse to understand that sexual perversions are caused wholly by the deviants being possessed by demons!

If the demons were to be removed and the subjects were to willingly accept God in their place, the perversions would stop.

But too many people hate God!
Genuinely can't tell if you're being serious or not
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: Unfortunately the disbelieving masses, who refuse to believe in God and thus Satan, refuse to understand that sexual perversions are caused wholly by the deviants being possessed by demons! If the demons were to be removed and the subjects were to willingly accept God in their place, the perversions would stop. But too many people hate God![/p][/quote]Genuinely can't tell if you're being serious or not Kinzy
  • Score: 12

2:20pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Rally says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
Rally wrote:
During a recent visit to Beaulieu Motor Museum I found myself not taking a photograph of the Rolls Royce Silver Ghost because a small male child was standing next to it at that particular moment.
And this because I was aware that in the minds of some a perfectly acceptable photo of a small male child admiring a classic car becomes something dark and disturbing. . .
How long before every adult male carrying - but not necessarily using - a camera in the vicinity of children is declared automatically and publically a paedophile, and consequently has to prove his innocence in a Court of Law?
With this issue we stand at the top of a very slippery slope.
Should get off if the child is not naked and you haven't got previous. Strange question????
kalebmoledirt wrote: 'Should get off if the child is not naked and you haven't got previous. Strange question????'

I'm not at all sure what it is you are arguing here, kalebmoledirt.
Please would you elucidate.
Thank you.
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rally[/bold] wrote: During a recent visit to Beaulieu Motor Museum I found myself not taking a photograph of the Rolls Royce Silver Ghost because a small male child was standing next to it at that particular moment. And this because I was aware that in the minds of some a perfectly acceptable photo of a small male child admiring a classic car becomes something dark and disturbing. . . How long before every adult male carrying - but not necessarily using - a camera in the vicinity of children is declared automatically and publically a paedophile, and consequently has to prove his innocence in a Court of Law? With this issue we stand at the top of a very slippery slope.[/p][/quote]Should get off if the child is not naked and you haven't got previous. Strange question????[/p][/quote]kalebmoledirt wrote: 'Should get off if the child is not naked and you haven't got previous. Strange question????' I'm not at all sure what it is you are arguing here, kalebmoledirt. Please would you elucidate. Thank you. Rally
  • Score: 0

2:50pm Thu 19 Jun 14

PokesdownMark says...

It is already tricky enough to take photographs in public with no children anywhere to be seen. Often members of public, security guards and other authority figures mistakenly believing that they have a right to object, sometimes violently, to their photographs being taken. Even at a distance. Many many examples on the internet including the "I am a photographer not a terrorist" web site.

Back on topic, glad to see these dreadful men taken care off. In one way if sadly not another. Two house bricks preferred.
It is already tricky enough to take photographs in public with no children anywhere to be seen. Often members of public, security guards and other authority figures mistakenly believing that they have a right to object, sometimes violently, to their photographs being taken. Even at a distance. Many many examples on the internet including the "I am a photographer not a terrorist" web site. Back on topic, glad to see these dreadful men taken care off. In one way if sadly not another. Two house bricks preferred. PokesdownMark
  • Score: 0

4:19pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Arthur Maureen says...

Double tap to the head for both of them, save us all the cost of caging these animals. I'd do it today, scum.
Double tap to the head for both of them, save us all the cost of caging these animals. I'd do it today, scum. Arthur Maureen
  • Score: -3

5:45pm Thu 19 Jun 14

manyogie says...

Why has it taken 2 years to come to Court?
How many thousands upon thousands have been spent on what, by the report, is a straightforward case?
Fast track prosecutions, and impose statutory penalties to force home the message to all criminals.
Why has it taken 2 years to come to Court? How many thousands upon thousands have been spent on what, by the report, is a straightforward case? Fast track prosecutions, and impose statutory penalties to force home the message to all criminals. manyogie
  • Score: 6

5:48pm Thu 19 Jun 14

BoscombeWarLord says...

Well done to the PCSO, they get enough stick from some quarters for been cheap coppers. This PCSO deserves praise for catching these scumbags, sadly the judiciary didn't hand out a stiffer sentence to these vile wretches.
Well done to the PCSO, they get enough stick from some quarters for been cheap coppers. This PCSO deserves praise for catching these scumbags, sadly the judiciary didn't hand out a stiffer sentence to these vile wretches. BoscombeWarLord
  • Score: 15

6:05pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Huey says...

I hope they both get slashed up in prison
I hope they both get slashed up in prison Huey
  • Score: -2

6:27pm Thu 19 Jun 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Turtlebay wrote:
Unfortunately the disbelieving masses, who refuse to believe in God and thus Satan, refuse to understand that sexual perversions are caused wholly by the deviants being possessed by demons!

If the demons were to be removed and the subjects were to willingly accept God in their place, the perversions would stop.

But too many people hate God!
People don't hate God but wonder why people like you choose to be self appointed ambassadors
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: Unfortunately the disbelieving masses, who refuse to believe in God and thus Satan, refuse to understand that sexual perversions are caused wholly by the deviants being possessed by demons! If the demons were to be removed and the subjects were to willingly accept God in their place, the perversions would stop. But too many people hate God![/p][/quote]People don't hate God but wonder why people like you choose to be self appointed ambassadors kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 5

7:14pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Bob49 says...

alasdair1967 wrote:
I do recall reading that a school banned parents from taking pictures at a nativity play in fear of these perverts what a sad society we life in
or fear of suffering the consequent litigation were there ever to be any suspected 'abuse' come to light

sadly this real cause is masked and drowned out by the all too frequent shrieks of the 'health and safety gone mad' brigade

fuelled by certain parts of the media whose delight is in over exciting the not too bright
[quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: I do recall reading that a school banned parents from taking pictures at a nativity play in fear of these perverts what a sad society we life in[/p][/quote]or fear of suffering the consequent litigation were there ever to be any suspected 'abuse' come to light sadly this real cause is masked and drowned out by the all too frequent shrieks of the 'health and safety gone mad' brigade fuelled by certain parts of the media whose delight is in over exciting the not too bright Bob49
  • Score: 4

7:16pm Thu 19 Jun 14

jill M says...

BoscombeWarLord wrote:
Well done to the PCSO, they get enough stick from some quarters for been cheap coppers. This PCSO deserves praise for catching these scumbags, sadly the judiciary didn't hand out a stiffer sentence to these vile wretches.
How nice to see the PCSO getting some praise for a change, perhaps now people can see that they do a valuable job, give them a break and stop knocking them all the time. They are the eyes and ears of their local community, and take a lot of the minor jobs away from the PCs, allowing them to get on with other pressing jobs.
[quote][p][bold]BoscombeWarLord[/bold] wrote: Well done to the PCSO, they get enough stick from some quarters for been cheap coppers. This PCSO deserves praise for catching these scumbags, sadly the judiciary didn't hand out a stiffer sentence to these vile wretches.[/p][/quote]How nice to see the PCSO getting some praise for a change, perhaps now people can see that they do a valuable job, give them a break and stop knocking them all the time. They are the eyes and ears of their local community, and take a lot of the minor jobs away from the PCs, allowing them to get on with other pressing jobs. jill M
  • Score: 9

10:26pm Thu 19 Jun 14

hooplaa says...

Well done PSCO! A lot of people are quick enough to slate you but if you werent there these 'men' would have got away with it!
Well done PSCO! A lot of people are quick enough to slate you but if you werent there these 'men' would have got away with it! hooplaa
  • Score: 6

10:33pm Thu 19 Jun 14

wadjit says...

Turtlebay wrote:
Unfortunately the disbelieving masses, who refuse to believe in God and thus Satan, refuse to understand that sexual perversions are caused wholly by the deviants being possessed by demons!

If the demons were to be removed and the subjects were to willingly accept God in their place, the perversions would stop.

But too many people hate God!
This is not a serious comment. So all must not worry
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: Unfortunately the disbelieving masses, who refuse to believe in God and thus Satan, refuse to understand that sexual perversions are caused wholly by the deviants being possessed by demons! If the demons were to be removed and the subjects were to willingly accept God in their place, the perversions would stop. But too many people hate God![/p][/quote]This is not a serious comment. So all must not worry wadjit
  • Score: 0

11:51pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Yankee1 says...

Why do parents allow children to be naked in public, if this is one result?

By all means, jail the photographer, but why not the parent, too, for endangering their child?

This seems to be the prevailing climate.
Why do parents allow children to be naked in public, if this is one result? By all means, jail the photographer, but why not the parent, too, for endangering their child? This seems to be the prevailing climate. Yankee1
  • Score: -6

12:22am Fri 20 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

Turtlebay wrote:
Unfortunately the disbelieving masses, who refuse to believe in God and thus Satan, refuse to understand that sexual perversions are caused wholly by the deviants being possessed by demons!

If the demons were to be removed and the subjects were to willingly accept God in their place, the perversions would stop.

But too many people hate God!
How can you hate something that doesn't exist? Yes I'm an atheist, but I respect the right of people to follow the religion of their choice. What they don't have is the right to ram their religion down my throat.
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: Unfortunately the disbelieving masses, who refuse to believe in God and thus Satan, refuse to understand that sexual perversions are caused wholly by the deviants being possessed by demons! If the demons were to be removed and the subjects were to willingly accept God in their place, the perversions would stop. But too many people hate God![/p][/quote]How can you hate something that doesn't exist? Yes I'm an atheist, but I respect the right of people to follow the religion of their choice. What they don't have is the right to ram their religion down my throat. breamoreboy
  • Score: 5

3:51am Fri 20 Jun 14

guisselle says...

All children should cover up on the beach to avoid sunburn as also to be safe from
weird predators who will be lurking about in bushes.
All children should cover up on the beach to avoid sunburn as also to be safe from weird predators who will be lurking about in bushes. guisselle
  • Score: 2

8:26am Sat 21 Jun 14

fatman123 says...

Taylor was locked up in 2000 for very serious offences
The judge who sentenced him this time should be struck off he is not in the real world,i was in court and heard what this disgusting piece of **** did to a member of my family and other children
Ive seen what he has put families through
Judge is a village idiot
Taylor was locked up in 2000 for very serious offences The judge who sentenced him this time should be struck off he is not in the real world,i was in court and heard what this disgusting piece of **** did to a member of my family and other children Ive seen what he has put families through Judge is a village idiot fatman123
  • Score: 2

9:02am Sat 21 Jun 14

fatman123 says...

What Taylor did in 2000 was disgusting
He should never have been aloud out of prison and if the idiot Bournemouth judge had taken the time to read what the judge in the 2000 case said he would have locked him up for longer
Ive seen what happens to families after this evil man has had his fun
I CAN ONLY HOPE HE DIES A HORIBLE LONG SLOW DEATH
What Taylor did in 2000 was disgusting He should never have been aloud out of prison and if the idiot Bournemouth judge had taken the time to read what the judge in the 2000 case said he would have locked him up for longer Ive seen what happens to families after this evil man has had his fun I CAN ONLY HOPE HE DIES A HORIBLE LONG SLOW DEATH fatman123
  • Score: 3

9:44pm Sun 22 Jun 14

angryburd says...

i was in court too in 2000, and when i was told he was coming out i told the police he would do it again...
i was in court too in 2000, and when i was told he was coming out i told the police he would do it again... angryburd
  • Score: 0

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