MP Tobias Ellwood labelled “idiot” in House of Commons row

Bournemouth Echo: MP Tobias Ellwood labelled “idiot” in House of Commons row MP Tobias Ellwood labelled “idiot” in House of Commons row

BOURNEMOUTH East MP Tobias Ellwood was involved in a feisty exchange with shadow chancellor Ed Balls over the level of youth unemployment in his constituency.

Mr Ellwood was accused of getting his facts wrong by Mr Balls and was labelled an “idiot” by Labour MP Ian Austin – an insult he was ordered to apologise for.

The row in the House of Commons on Thursday started after Mr Balls said youth unemployment had increased by 700 per cent since 2010 but Mr Ellwood claimed this was because the statistics included students at “the three universities in Bournemouth”.

Mr Balls said: “I am afraid that the honourable gentleman got that wrong last time and he is wrong again. I am referring to jobseekers’ allowance – the claimant count – and students are excluded from the figures.

“I must say that it is excusable to make that mistake once, but having done it twice, his chances of getting on to the front bench are severely diminished.”

Mr Austin, MP for Dudley North, asked Mr Balls: “Does he not find it extraordinary that all government members can do is to read out handouts from the Whips and the idiot from Bournemouth cannot even get that right.”

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10:08am Sat 14 Jun 14

whataboutthat says...

Seems a reasonable assesment to me.
Seems a reasonable assesment to me. whataboutthat
  • Score: 53

10:22am Sat 14 Jun 14

fartycat says...

Not a good week for our two Tory MPs. First we had Connor Burns and his shameless attack on Oxfam and now Tobias ridiculed in the House!
Not a good week for our two Tory MPs. First we had Connor Burns and his shameless attack on Oxfam and now Tobias ridiculed in the House! fartycat
  • Score: 27

10:23am Sat 14 Jun 14

rubberbandman5 says...

He's not as bad as the dim councillor from Lytchett Matraver (letters)
He's not as bad as the dim councillor from Lytchett Matraver (letters) rubberbandman5
  • Score: 5

10:30am Sat 14 Jun 14

Arjay says...

Well if Tobias really wanted to get onto the front bench, he could perhaps try his luck as a labour MP?
They have Ed Balls on their front bench... so the bar is not exactly set very high....
Well if Tobias really wanted to get onto the front bench, he could perhaps try his luck as a labour MP? They have Ed Balls on their front bench... so the bar is not exactly set very high.... Arjay
  • Score: -2

10:42am Sat 14 Jun 14

richardcompton3 says...

If the cap fits. Tim but dim springs to mind!
If the cap fits. Tim but dim springs to mind! richardcompton3
  • Score: 23

10:53am Sat 14 Jun 14

jinglebell says...

Lol :)
Lol :) jinglebell
  • Score: 7

10:56am Sat 14 Jun 14

DemonDiva says...

I had never realised that telling the truth needed to be apologised for.
I had never realised that telling the truth needed to be apologised for. DemonDiva
  • Score: 12

11:14am Sat 14 Jun 14

muscliffman says...

Some might say that if you put only Ed Balls and Tobias Ellwood together and shouted the word 'idiot' the only thing missing would be the letter 's'!
Some might say that if you put only Ed Balls and Tobias Ellwood together and shouted the word 'idiot' the only thing missing would be the letter 's'! muscliffman
  • Score: 7

11:26am Sat 14 Jun 14

High Treason says...

fartycat wrote:
Not a good week for our two Tory MPs. First we had Connor Burns and his shameless attack on Oxfam and now Tobias ridiculed in the House!
Be fair, Connor Doughnut Burns gets confused when his blood sugar level drops. He should have visited the commons canteen for a quick fix. Real cream doughnuts on the house, well the taxpayers.
[quote][p][bold]fartycat[/bold] wrote: Not a good week for our two Tory MPs. First we had Connor Burns and his shameless attack on Oxfam and now Tobias ridiculed in the House![/p][/quote]Be fair, Connor Doughnut Burns gets confused when his blood sugar level drops. He should have visited the commons canteen for a quick fix. Real cream doughnuts on the house, well the taxpayers. High Treason
  • Score: 18

12:28pm Sat 14 Jun 14

GeorgeW64 says...

Time to get shot of this idiot, Vote UKIP next year.
Time to get shot of this idiot, Vote UKIP next year. GeorgeW64
  • Score: -2

12:29pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Baysider says...

Tbf idiots are useful sometimes. Cannon fodder for example or providing false hope to UKIP but I can't see any use for Tobias whatsoever. The bloke has been invisible for years but with less than a year to go to an election up he pops. Sadly he so inept he just can't stop himself entering the realms of parody.
Tbf idiots are useful sometimes. Cannon fodder for example or providing false hope to UKIP but I can't see any use for Tobias whatsoever. The bloke has been invisible for years but with less than a year to go to an election up he pops. Sadly he so inept he just can't stop himself entering the realms of parody. Baysider
  • Score: 10

12:50pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Cliff Falls says...

GeorgeW64 wrote:
Time to get shot of this idiot, Vote UKIP next year.
Frying pan to fire?
[quote][p][bold]GeorgeW64[/bold] wrote: Time to get shot of this idiot, Vote UKIP next year.[/p][/quote]Frying pan to fire? Cliff Falls
  • Score: 8

12:55pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Baysider says...

muscliffman wrote:
Some might say that if you put only Ed Balls and Tobias Ellwood together and shouted the word 'idiot' the only thing missing would be the letter 's'!
Wow. You really had to work hard to crack that "gag" Muzzy. C'mon you can do better than that.
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: Some might say that if you put only Ed Balls and Tobias Ellwood together and shouted the word 'idiot' the only thing missing would be the letter 's'![/p][/quote]Wow. You really had to work hard to crack that "gag" Muzzy. C'mon you can do better than that. Baysider
  • Score: 4

1:28pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Glashen says...

I've just read the debate in Hansard, no wonder politicians are held in such poor esteem. It starts with Labour using their time to make party political points about the recovery, fair enough but actually not very constructive, Tobias Ellwood then asked a question about Labour policy also no doubt to make a party political point about taxes, Ed Balls responds not answering the question but referring to a somewhat obtuse statistic about long term youth employment in Bournemouth/ (I thought very few youths were on long term jobseekers allowance because they were shoved on courses) He is then called an Idiot by another Labour MP, who eventually makes half an apology.
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Unedifying spectacle would be a apt description if it was a debate by children in primary school!
I've just read the debate in Hansard, no wonder politicians are held in such poor esteem. It starts with Labour using their time to make party political points about the recovery, fair enough but actually not very constructive, Tobias Ellwood then asked a question about Labour policy also no doubt to make a party political point about taxes, Ed Balls responds not answering the question but referring to a somewhat obtuse statistic about long term youth employment in Bournemouth/ (I thought very few youths were on long term jobseekers allowance because they were shoved on courses) He is then called an Idiot by another Labour MP, who eventually makes half an apology. - Unedifying spectacle would be a apt description if it was a debate by children in primary school! Glashen
  • Score: 9

1:30pm Sat 14 Jun 14

nothingtofear says...

Baysider wrote:
Tbf idiots are useful sometimes. Cannon fodder for example or providing false hope to UKIP but I can't see any use for Tobias whatsoever. The bloke has been invisible for years but with less than a year to go to an election up he pops. Sadly he so inept he just can't stop himself entering the realms of parody.
And he'll still be the MP for Bournemouth East in 25 years time.
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: Tbf idiots are useful sometimes. Cannon fodder for example or providing false hope to UKIP but I can't see any use for Tobias whatsoever. The bloke has been invisible for years but with less than a year to go to an election up he pops. Sadly he so inept he just can't stop himself entering the realms of parody.[/p][/quote]And he'll still be the MP for Bournemouth East in 25 years time. nothingtofear
  • Score: 3

1:39pm Sat 14 Jun 14

muscliffman says...

Glashen wrote:
I've just read the debate in Hansard, no wonder politicians are held in such poor esteem. It starts with Labour using their time to make party political points about the recovery, fair enough but actually not very constructive, Tobias Ellwood then asked a question about Labour policy also no doubt to make a party political point about taxes, Ed Balls responds not answering the question but referring to a somewhat obtuse statistic about long term youth employment in Bournemouth/ (I thought very few youths were on long term jobseekers allowance because they were shoved on courses) He is then called an Idiot by another Labour MP, who eventually makes half an apology.
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Unedifying spectacle would be a apt description if it was a debate by children in primary school!
If I may correct your common misconception created by the desk thumping right wing Tory media - Nobody can be on 'long term' UK jobseekers benefit, if you qualify - and many hard working tax paying folk here won't - it is for a maximum period of just six months.
[quote][p][bold]Glashen[/bold] wrote: I've just read the debate in Hansard, no wonder politicians are held in such poor esteem. It starts with Labour using their time to make party political points about the recovery, fair enough but actually not very constructive, Tobias Ellwood then asked a question about Labour policy also no doubt to make a party political point about taxes, Ed Balls responds not answering the question but referring to a somewhat obtuse statistic about long term youth employment in Bournemouth/ (I thought very few youths were on long term jobseekers allowance because they were shoved on courses) He is then called an Idiot by another Labour MP, who eventually makes half an apology. - Unedifying spectacle would be a apt description if it was a debate by children in primary school![/p][/quote]If I may correct your common misconception created by the desk thumping right wing Tory media - Nobody can be on 'long term' UK jobseekers benefit, if you qualify - and many hard working tax paying folk here won't - it is for a maximum period of just six months. muscliffman
  • Score: 5

2:55pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Glashen says...

muscliffman wrote:
Glashen wrote:
I've just read the debate in Hansard, no wonder politicians are held in such poor esteem. It starts with Labour using their time to make party political points about the recovery, fair enough but actually not very constructive, Tobias Ellwood then asked a question about Labour policy also no doubt to make a party political point about taxes, Ed Balls responds not answering the question but referring to a somewhat obtuse statistic about long term youth employment in Bournemouth/ (I thought very few youths were on long term jobseekers allowance because they were shoved on courses) He is then called an Idiot by another Labour MP, who eventually makes half an apology.
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Unedifying spectacle would be a apt description if it was a debate by children in primary school!
If I may correct your common misconception created by the desk thumping right wing Tory media - Nobody can be on 'long term' UK jobseekers benefit, if you qualify - and many hard working tax paying folk here won't - it is for a maximum period of just six months.
That was what I thought too, but apparently Ed Balls believes the number of young people on job seekers allowance for more than 12 months in Bournemouth as increased by a significant number he quotes 700%, (check Hansard if you doubt what Ed Balls actually said) now either you and me are right and very few people would be in this category and Ed Balls is using a insignificant statistic out of context to ridicule Tobias Ellwood or there are a significant number of youngsters on long term handouts in which case maybe we do need more Tory policies not less. Not in fact my view but you can hardly blame the Daily Mail for distributing falsehoods when it is also being said by the Shadow Chancellor, Mr Balls.
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As I said the whole story shows a lot of what is worst in British politics
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Glashen[/bold] wrote: I've just read the debate in Hansard, no wonder politicians are held in such poor esteem. It starts with Labour using their time to make party political points about the recovery, fair enough but actually not very constructive, Tobias Ellwood then asked a question about Labour policy also no doubt to make a party political point about taxes, Ed Balls responds not answering the question but referring to a somewhat obtuse statistic about long term youth employment in Bournemouth/ (I thought very few youths were on long term jobseekers allowance because they were shoved on courses) He is then called an Idiot by another Labour MP, who eventually makes half an apology. - Unedifying spectacle would be a apt description if it was a debate by children in primary school![/p][/quote]If I may correct your common misconception created by the desk thumping right wing Tory media - Nobody can be on 'long term' UK jobseekers benefit, if you qualify - and many hard working tax paying folk here won't - it is for a maximum period of just six months.[/p][/quote]That was what I thought too, but apparently Ed Balls believes the number of young people on job seekers allowance for more than 12 months in Bournemouth as increased by a significant number he quotes 700%, (check Hansard if you doubt what Ed Balls actually said) now either you and me are right and very few people would be in this category and Ed Balls is using a insignificant statistic out of context to ridicule Tobias Ellwood or there are a significant number of youngsters on long term handouts in which case maybe we do need more Tory policies not less. Not in fact my view but you can hardly blame the Daily Mail for distributing falsehoods when it is also being said by the Shadow Chancellor, Mr Balls. . As I said the whole story shows a lot of what is worst in British politics Glashen
  • Score: 2

3:12pm Sat 14 Jun 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

Always thought he was an idiot.Another career politician who is being left behind by Conor Burns another idiot.

Is this the best Bournemouth can do as if it is we are in trouble.
Always thought he was an idiot.Another career politician who is being left behind by Conor Burns another idiot. Is this the best Bournemouth can do as if it is we are in trouble. politicaltrainspotter
  • Score: 9

3:18pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Nice But Dim says...

Describing him as an idiot is bordering on praise. Never see him locally unless it's election time & can't seem to grasp the simplest if concepts. Please get rid at the next election & vote someone in for Bournemouth East who actually has an ounce of integrity and intelligence. I met him once & unless his entourage had briefed him on the subject in question he was totally lost for any answers.
Describing him as an idiot is bordering on praise. Never see him locally unless it's election time & can't seem to grasp the simplest if concepts. Please get rid at the next election & vote someone in for Bournemouth East who actually has an ounce of integrity and intelligence. I met him once & unless his entourage had briefed him on the subject in question he was totally lost for any answers. Nice But Dim
  • Score: 12

4:53pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Hessenford says...

MP Tobias Ellwood labelled “idiot” in House of Commons row.
I'll second that.
MP Tobias Ellwood labelled “idiot” in House of Commons row. I'll second that. Hessenford
  • Score: 2

5:36pm Sat 14 Jun 14

Talkingheadera says...

Connor burns can't even reply to e mails.
Connor burns can't even reply to e mails. Talkingheadera
  • Score: 4

11:41pm Sat 14 Jun 14

bobthedestroyer says...

Please don't vote for Ellwood if you are in the Bmth East constituency at the next election. He is a pompous ****, he is the epitome of a gravy train MP
Please don't vote for Ellwood if you are in the Bmth East constituency at the next election. He is a pompous ****, he is the epitome of a gravy train MP bobthedestroyer
  • Score: -3

10:09am Sun 15 Jun 14

David Ross, Independent candidate for Bournemouth East says...

I agree with much of what is said above, which is why I am standing for Bournemouth East in 2015!

I too am fed up with both major parties using 'loyal' constituencies to parachute in centrally-chosen candidates, and good luck joining the local party and preventing this, let alone unseating a sitting MP.

Doing this as an independent is a massive task, so I should welcome the assistance of such informed and interested people - full details at elect-david-ross-mp.
org.uk
I agree with much of what is said above, which is why I am standing for Bournemouth East in 2015! I too am fed up with both major parties using 'loyal' constituencies to parachute in centrally-chosen candidates, and good luck joining the local party and preventing this, let alone unseating a sitting MP. Doing this as an independent is a massive task, so I should welcome the assistance of such informed and interested people - full details at elect-david-ross-mp. org.uk David Ross, Independent candidate for Bournemouth East
  • Score: -2

10:54am Sun 15 Jun 14

rubberbandman5 says...

David Ross is probably Labour and Labour gets nowhere around here.
David Ross is probably Labour and Labour gets nowhere around here. rubberbandman5
  • Score: 3

12:39pm Sun 15 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

GeorgeW64 wrote:
Time to get shot of this idiot, Vote UKIP next year.
Great idea, replace one idiot with another idiot. When are people going to realise that the sole qualification to becoming an MP is toeing the party line?
[quote][p][bold]GeorgeW64[/bold] wrote: Time to get shot of this idiot, Vote UKIP next year.[/p][/quote]Great idea, replace one idiot with another idiot. When are people going to realise that the sole qualification to becoming an MP is toeing the party line? breamoreboy
  • Score: 1

12:41pm Sun 15 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

Cliff Falls wrote:
GeorgeW64 wrote:
Time to get shot of this idiot, Vote UKIP next year.
Frying pan to fire?
Frying pan to incinerator.
[quote][p][bold]Cliff Falls[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GeorgeW64[/bold] wrote: Time to get shot of this idiot, Vote UKIP next year.[/p][/quote]Frying pan to fire?[/p][/quote]Frying pan to incinerator. breamoreboy
  • Score: -1

6:22pm Sun 15 Jun 14

breamoreboy says...

rubberbandman5 wrote:
David Ross is probably Labour and Labour gets nowhere around here.
Or a communist, fascist, neo-nazi, Socialist Worker (now there's an oxymoron for you :-) UKIP, Monster Raving Looney. Or a concerned citizen who's fed up with party politics and is trying to do something about it.
[quote][p][bold]rubberbandman5[/bold] wrote: David Ross is probably Labour and Labour gets nowhere around here.[/p][/quote]Or a communist, fascist, neo-nazi, Socialist Worker (now there's an oxymoron for you :-) UKIP, Monster Raving Looney. Or a concerned citizen who's fed up with party politics and is trying to do something about it. breamoreboy
  • Score: -2

10:33pm Sun 15 Jun 14

pete woodley says...

Hessenford wrote:
MP Tobias Ellwood labelled “idiot” in House of Commons row.
I'll second that.
You would,everyones a idiot in your unwanted and childish opinion,but your comments show you to be the biggest one and a complete coward,who would not say it to a persons face.What a pathetic moron you are.
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: MP Tobias Ellwood labelled “idiot” in House of Commons row. I'll second that.[/p][/quote]You would,everyones a idiot in your unwanted and childish opinion,but your comments show you to be the biggest one and a complete coward,who would not say it to a persons face.What a pathetic moron you are. pete woodley
  • Score: 1

11:05pm Sun 15 Jun 14

pete woodley says...

David Ross, Independent candidate for Bournemouth East wrote:
I agree with much of what is said above, which is why I am standing for Bournemouth East in 2015!

I too am fed up with both major parties using 'loyal' constituencies to parachute in centrally-chosen candidates, and good luck joining the local party and preventing this, let alone unseating a sitting MP.

Doing this as an independent is a massive task, so I should welcome the assistance of such informed and interested people - full details at elect-david-ross-mp.

org.uk
Best advise to you, is save your money and time,the locals vote along party lines,for,as you say candidates chosen by those at the top,local selection committees are virtually told who to select.Having served on several such groups,as well as being a press officer ,its a farce,and at times a fiddle.Being Independent is great but No good in Higher politics,and not a lot of good locally as can be seen by results.Ask Phillip Whitelegg who knows the ropes.
[quote][p][bold]David Ross, Independent candidate for Bournemouth East[/bold] wrote: I agree with much of what is said above, which is why I am standing for Bournemouth East in 2015! I too am fed up with both major parties using 'loyal' constituencies to parachute in centrally-chosen candidates, and good luck joining the local party and preventing this, let alone unseating a sitting MP. Doing this as an independent is a massive task, so I should welcome the assistance of such informed and interested people - full details at elect-david-ross-mp. org.uk[/p][/quote]Best advise to you, is save your money and time,the locals vote along party lines,for,as you say candidates chosen by those at the top,local selection committees are virtually told who to select.Having served on several such groups,as well as being a press officer ,its a farce,and at times a fiddle.Being Independent is great but No good in Higher politics,and not a lot of good locally as can be seen by results.Ask Phillip Whitelegg who knows the ropes. pete woodley
  • Score: 1

11:11pm Sun 15 Jun 14

pete woodley says...

David Ross, Independent candidate for Bournemouth East wrote:
I agree with much of what is said above, which is why I am standing for Bournemouth East in 2015!

I too am fed up with both major parties using 'loyal' constituencies to parachute in centrally-chosen candidates, and good luck joining the local party and preventing this, let alone unseating a sitting MP.

Doing this as an independent is a massive task, so I should welcome the assistance of such informed and interested people - full details at elect-david-ross-mp.

org.uk
Best advise to you, is save your money and time,the locals vote along party lines,for,as you say candidates chosen by those at the top,local selection committees are virtually told who to select.Having served on several such groups,as well as being a press officer ,its a farce,and at times a fiddle.Being Independent is great but No good in Higher politics,and not a lot of good locally as can be seen by results.Ask Phillip Whitelegg who knows the ropes.
[quote][p][bold]David Ross, Independent candidate for Bournemouth East[/bold] wrote: I agree with much of what is said above, which is why I am standing for Bournemouth East in 2015! I too am fed up with both major parties using 'loyal' constituencies to parachute in centrally-chosen candidates, and good luck joining the local party and preventing this, let alone unseating a sitting MP. Doing this as an independent is a massive task, so I should welcome the assistance of such informed and interested people - full details at elect-david-ross-mp. org.uk[/p][/quote]Best advise to you, is save your money and time,the locals vote along party lines,for,as you say candidates chosen by those at the top,local selection committees are virtually told who to select.Having served on several such groups,as well as being a press officer ,its a farce,and at times a fiddle.Being Independent is great but No good in Higher politics,and not a lot of good locally as can be seen by results.Ask Phillip Whitelegg who knows the ropes. pete woodley
  • Score: 1

7:04am Mon 16 Jun 14

David Ross, Independent candidate for Bournemouth East says...

pete woodley wrote:
David Ross, Independent candidate for Bournemouth East wrote:
I agree with much of what is said above, which is why I am standing for Bournemouth East in 2015!

I too am fed up with both major parties using 'loyal' constituencies to parachute in centrally-chosen candidates, and good luck joining the local party and preventing this, let alone unseating a sitting MP.

Doing this as an independent is a massive task, so I should welcome the assistance of such informed and interested people - full details at elect-david-ross-mp.


org.uk
Best advise to you, is save your money and time,the locals vote along party lines,for,as you say candidates chosen by those at the top,local selection committees are virtually told who to select.Having served on several such groups,as well as being a press officer ,its a farce,and at times a fiddle.Being Independent is great but No good in Higher politics,and not a lot of good locally as can be seen by results.Ask Phillip Whitelegg who knows the ropes.
Is this counsel of despair the best you can offer? Disappointing.
[quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David Ross, Independent candidate for Bournemouth East[/bold] wrote: I agree with much of what is said above, which is why I am standing for Bournemouth East in 2015! I too am fed up with both major parties using 'loyal' constituencies to parachute in centrally-chosen candidates, and good luck joining the local party and preventing this, let alone unseating a sitting MP. Doing this as an independent is a massive task, so I should welcome the assistance of such informed and interested people - full details at elect-david-ross-mp. org.uk[/p][/quote]Best advise to you, is save your money and time,the locals vote along party lines,for,as you say candidates chosen by those at the top,local selection committees are virtually told who to select.Having served on several such groups,as well as being a press officer ,its a farce,and at times a fiddle.Being Independent is great but No good in Higher politics,and not a lot of good locally as can be seen by results.Ask Phillip Whitelegg who knows the ropes.[/p][/quote]Is this counsel of despair the best you can offer? Disappointing. David Ross, Independent candidate for Bournemouth East
  • Score: 0

9:18am Mon 16 Jun 14

Bournemouth87 says...

So today in the news Tobias Elwood makes a mistake. Well to me that is no suprise this man is a waste of space, he has no idea what he is talking about, he does not let his os should I say our voices be heard when it comes to votes. Oh well at least only one more year before he is voted out of fired.
So today in the news Tobias Elwood makes a mistake. Well to me that is no suprise this man is a waste of space, he has no idea what he is talking about, he does not let his os should I say our voices be heard when it comes to votes. Oh well at least only one more year before he is voted out of fired. Bournemouth87
  • Score: 1

11:53am Mon 16 Jun 14

pete woodley says...

David Ross, Independent candidate for Bournemouth East wrote:
pete woodley wrote:
David Ross, Independent candidate for Bournemouth East wrote:
I agree with much of what is said above, which is why I am standing for Bournemouth East in 2015!

I too am fed up with both major parties using 'loyal' constituencies to parachute in centrally-chosen candidates, and good luck joining the local party and preventing this, let alone unseating a sitting MP.

Doing this as an independent is a massive task, so I should welcome the assistance of such informed and interested people - full details at elect-david-ross-mp.



org.uk
Best advise to you, is save your money and time,the locals vote along party lines,for,as you say candidates chosen by those at the top,local selection committees are virtually told who to select.Having served on several such groups,as well as being a press officer ,its a farce,and at times a fiddle.Being Independent is great but No good in Higher politics,and not a lot of good locally as can be seen by results.Ask Phillip Whitelegg who knows the ropes.
Is this counsel of despair the best you can offer? Disappointing.
Learn the hard way then,i thought you needed advise,obviously you need it but wont accept it.A fool and his money are soon parted,if you have cash to give away,give it to the British Legion.I would like to see a Independent MP,but no way will it happen.Your reply to words of advise, shows you are not suited.Perhaps you are a publicity seeker,we shall see.
[quote][p][bold]David Ross, Independent candidate for Bournemouth East[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]David Ross, Independent candidate for Bournemouth East[/bold] wrote: I agree with much of what is said above, which is why I am standing for Bournemouth East in 2015! I too am fed up with both major parties using 'loyal' constituencies to parachute in centrally-chosen candidates, and good luck joining the local party and preventing this, let alone unseating a sitting MP. Doing this as an independent is a massive task, so I should welcome the assistance of such informed and interested people - full details at elect-david-ross-mp. org.uk[/p][/quote]Best advise to you, is save your money and time,the locals vote along party lines,for,as you say candidates chosen by those at the top,local selection committees are virtually told who to select.Having served on several such groups,as well as being a press officer ,its a farce,and at times a fiddle.Being Independent is great but No good in Higher politics,and not a lot of good locally as can be seen by results.Ask Phillip Whitelegg who knows the ropes.[/p][/quote]Is this counsel of despair the best you can offer? Disappointing.[/p][/quote]Learn the hard way then,i thought you needed advise,obviously you need it but wont accept it.A fool and his money are soon parted,if you have cash to give away,give it to the British Legion.I would like to see a Independent MP,but no way will it happen.Your reply to words of advise, shows you are not suited.Perhaps you are a publicity seeker,we shall see. pete woodley
  • Score: 1

2:55pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Boscomite says...

If you start with a cage containing five monkeys & inside the cage, hang a banana on a string from the top & then you place a set of stairs under the banana, before long a monkey will go to the stairs & climb toward the banana.

As soon as he touches the stairs, you spray all the other monkeys with very cold water.

After a while another monkey makes an attempt with the same result, all the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water. Pretty soon when any monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it.

Now, put the cold water away.

Remove one monkey from the cage & replace it with a new one.

The new monkey sees the banana & attempts to climb the stairs. To his shock, all of the other monkeys beat the crap out of him. After another attempt & attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs he will be assaulted.

Next, remove another of the original five monkeys, replacing it with a new one.

The newcomer goes to the stairs & is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment...... with enthusiasm, because he is now part of the "team".

Then, replace a third original monkey with a new one, followed by the fourth, then the fifth. Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs, he is attacked.

Now, the monkeys that are beating him up have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs. Neither do they know why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey.

Finally, having replaced all of the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys will have ever been sprayed with cold water. Nevertheless, not one of the monkeys will try to climb the stairway for the banana.

Why, you ask? Because in their minds...that is the way it has always been!

This, my friends, is how Parliament operates... and this is why, from time to time:

ALL OF THE MONKEYS NEED TO BE REPLACED AT THE SAME TIME. If you start with a cage containing five monkeys & inside the cage, hang a banana on a string from the top & then you place a set of stairs under the banana, before long a monkey will go to the stairs & climb toward the banana.

As soon as he touches the stairs, you spray all the other monkeys with very cold water.

After a while another monkey makes an attempt with the same result, all the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water. Pretty soon when any monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it.

Now, put the cold water away.

Remove one monkey from the cage & replace it with a new one.

The new monkey sees the banana & attempts to climb the stairs. To his shock, all of the other monkeys beat the crap out of him. After another attempt & attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs he will be assaulted.

Next, remove another of the original five monkeys, replacing it with a new one.

The newcomer goes to the stairs & is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment...... with enthusiasm, because he is now part of the "team".

Then, replace a third original monkey with a new one, followed by the fourth, then the fifth. Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs, he is attacked.

Now, the monkeys that are beating him up have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs. Neither do they know why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey.

Finally, having replaced all of the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys will have ever been sprayed with cold water. Nevertheless, not one of the monkeys will try to climb the stairway for the banana.

Why, you ask? Because in their minds...that is the way it has always been!

This is how Bournemouth County Counsil operates... and this is why, from time to time:

ALL OF THE MONKEYS NEED TO BE REPLACED AT THE SAME TIME.
If you start with a cage containing five monkeys & inside the cage, hang a banana on a string from the top & then you place a set of stairs under the banana, before long a monkey will go to the stairs & climb toward the banana. As soon as he touches the stairs, you spray all the other monkeys with very cold water. After a while another monkey makes an attempt with the same result, all the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water. Pretty soon when any monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it. Now, put the cold water away. Remove one monkey from the cage & replace it with a new one. The new monkey sees the banana & attempts to climb the stairs. To his shock, all of the other monkeys beat the crap out of him. After another attempt & attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs he will be assaulted. Next, remove another of the original five monkeys, replacing it with a new one. The newcomer goes to the stairs & is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment...... with enthusiasm, because he is now part of the "team". Then, replace a third original monkey with a new one, followed by the fourth, then the fifth. Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs, he is attacked. Now, the monkeys that are beating him up have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs. Neither do they know why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey. Finally, having replaced all of the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys will have ever been sprayed with cold water. Nevertheless, not one of the monkeys will try to climb the stairway for the banana. Why, you ask? Because in their minds...that is the way it has always been! This, my friends, is how Parliament operates... and this is why, from time to time: ALL OF THE MONKEYS NEED TO BE REPLACED AT THE SAME TIME. If you start with a cage containing five monkeys & inside the cage, hang a banana on a string from the top & then you place a set of stairs under the banana, before long a monkey will go to the stairs & climb toward the banana. As soon as he touches the stairs, you spray all the other monkeys with very cold water. After a while another monkey makes an attempt with the same result, all the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water. Pretty soon when any monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it. Now, put the cold water away. Remove one monkey from the cage & replace it with a new one. The new monkey sees the banana & attempts to climb the stairs. To his shock, all of the other monkeys beat the crap out of him. After another attempt & attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs he will be assaulted. Next, remove another of the original five monkeys, replacing it with a new one. The newcomer goes to the stairs & is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment...... with enthusiasm, because he is now part of the "team". Then, replace a third original monkey with a new one, followed by the fourth, then the fifth. Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs, he is attacked. Now, the monkeys that are beating him up have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs. Neither do they know why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey. Finally, having replaced all of the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys will have ever been sprayed with cold water. Nevertheless, not one of the monkeys will try to climb the stairway for the banana. Why, you ask? Because in their minds...that is the way it has always been! This is how Bournemouth County Counsil operates... and this is why, from time to time: ALL OF THE MONKEYS NEED TO BE REPLACED AT THE SAME TIME. Boscomite
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2:58pm Mon 16 Jun 14

Boscomite says...

I don't know what happened there.
I don't know what happened there. Boscomite
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