Dog owner ordered to keep ‘noisy’ pet inside after neighbour argues barking is a nuisance

Bournemouth Echo: Jon Payne, a lawyer specialising in nuisance law with Bournemouth-based firm Horsey Lightly Fynn Jon Payne, a lawyer specialising in nuisance law with Bournemouth-based firm Horsey Lightly Fynn

A BOURNEMOUTH dog owner has been ordered to keep her pet inside after a neighbour successfully argued its barking was a noise nuisance.

Magistrates at Bournemouth Magistrates Court made the ruling after reading a bundle of documents and hearing live evidence from both parties and their witnesses.

One of the witnesses was a dog behaviourist, who listened to the recordings of the dog’s barking and concluded it was due to separation anxiety and the dog was distressed at being kept outside.

The complainant brought the case to court himself after Bournemouth council decided not to take action themselves.

Magistrates said they were satisfied that on the balance of probabilities the complaint about the dog’s howling was genuine and that the matter had been brought to court as a last resort.

They ordered the dog, a female Lurcher, should be kept inside at all times and only allowed in the garden if under the direct supervision of a responsible person.

When she is alone in the house, magistrates said the doors and windows should be kept closed, except as reasonably required for ventilation.

Following the magistrates’ ruling, an appeal was made to Bournemouth Crown Court. This was dismissed, with the crown court judging saying there was no jurisdiction to consider an appeal.

Jon Payne, a lawyer specialising in nuisance law with Bournemouth-based firm Horsey Lightly Fynn, said: “There are significant merits for individuals to take their own action, not least for the protection on costs that is offered.

“This decision, whilst not binding, indicates that if a complainant is successful at the magistrates court, then the defendant can only seek to challenge the decision through judicial review, which can be costly and time-consuming.”

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9:16am Sun 8 Jun 14

Pablo23 says...

And yet when my neighbours cats tresspass onto my property to use it as their toilet and murder arena the law will do nothing to keep them locked in.

Go...
And yet when my neighbours cats tresspass onto my property to use it as their toilet and murder arena the law will do nothing to keep them locked in. Go... Pablo23
  • Score: 7

9:38am Sun 8 Jun 14

nickynoodah says...

Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet
Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land,
Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know
Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land, Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know nickynoodah
  • Score: -69

10:00am Sun 8 Jun 14

rubberbandman5 says...

Dog ownership is good, irresponsible ownership of dogs is awful.
Dog ownership is good, irresponsible ownership of dogs is awful. rubberbandman5
  • Score: 77

10:14am Sun 8 Jun 14

nickynoodah says...

Pablo23 wrote:
And yet when my neighbours cats tresspass onto my property to use it as their toilet and murder arena the law will do nothing to keep them locked in.

Go...
We all get your massive hint get a lurcher George
you know you want one you know
[quote][p][bold]Pablo23[/bold] wrote: And yet when my neighbours cats tresspass onto my property to use it as their toilet and murder arena the law will do nothing to keep them locked in. Go...[/p][/quote]We all get your massive hint get a lurcher George you know you want one you know nickynoodah
  • Score: -12

10:27am Sun 8 Jun 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

The second time in 3 days the solicitor company is mentioned in a story. The other being the Chinese lanterns saga. Perhaps the editor is doing some freemasonary favours regarding free advertising.
The second time in 3 days the solicitor company is mentioned in a story. The other being the Chinese lanterns saga. Perhaps the editor is doing some freemasonary favours regarding free advertising. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 44

10:32am Sun 8 Jun 14

ASM says...

nice advert echo. is there some sneakies going on? wait i shouldn't say that
nice advert echo. is there some sneakies going on? wait i shouldn't say that ASM
  • Score: 34

10:37am Sun 8 Jun 14

ragj195 says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
The second time in 3 days the solicitor company is mentioned in a story. The other being the Chinese lanterns saga. Perhaps the editor is doing some freemasonary favours regarding free advertising.
How do you know it's free?
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: The second time in 3 days the solicitor company is mentioned in a story. The other being the Chinese lanterns saga. Perhaps the editor is doing some freemasonary favours regarding free advertising.[/p][/quote]How do you know it's free? ragj195
  • Score: 5

10:47am Sun 8 Jun 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

ragj195 wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
The second time in 3 days the solicitor company is mentioned in a story. The other being the Chinese lanterns saga. Perhaps the editor is doing some freemasonary favours regarding free advertising.
How do you know it's free?
Backscratching costs nothing but a nod and a wink when the sun sets in the East.
[quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: The second time in 3 days the solicitor company is mentioned in a story. The other being the Chinese lanterns saga. Perhaps the editor is doing some freemasonary favours regarding free advertising.[/p][/quote]How do you know it's free?[/p][/quote]Backscratching costs nothing but a nod and a wink when the sun sets in the East. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 18

10:55am Sun 8 Jun 14

ragj195 says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
The second time in 3 days the solicitor company is mentioned in a story. The other being the Chinese lanterns saga. Perhaps the editor is doing some freemasonary favours regarding free advertising.
How do you know it's free?
Backscratching costs nothing but a nod and a wink when the sun sets in the East.
Okay then if you say so. Look at the entire page. It's riddled with paid for adverts. Just because this legal firms name is part of a story it doesn't mean it's free.

It's not sneaky or backscratching. This isn't the council website, it's a private website trying to make money from advertising.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: The second time in 3 days the solicitor company is mentioned in a story. The other being the Chinese lanterns saga. Perhaps the editor is doing some freemasonary favours regarding free advertising.[/p][/quote]How do you know it's free?[/p][/quote]Backscratching costs nothing but a nod and a wink when the sun sets in the East.[/p][/quote]Okay then if you say so. Look at the entire page. It's riddled with paid for adverts. Just because this legal firms name is part of a story it doesn't mean it's free. It's not sneaky or backscratching. This isn't the council website, it's a private website trying to make money from advertising. ragj195
  • Score: -15

10:58am Sun 8 Jun 14

stevobath says...

nickynoodah wrote:
Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet
Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land,
Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know
Let's hope you get 'De Silva'd' when your' in Brazil.

Won't have to put up with your' retarded posts.
Only sad thing is your' carers will need to find new clients.

I'm praying that you really are F'ing off to Brazil & you DO get sorted out
by some little gun wielding 'Da Silva' in the Favelas.
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land, Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know[/p][/quote]Let's hope you get 'De Silva'd' when your' in Brazil. Won't have to put up with your' retarded posts. Only sad thing is your' carers will need to find new clients. I'm praying that you really are F'ing off to Brazil & you DO get sorted out by some little gun wielding 'Da Silva' in the Favelas. stevobath
  • Score: 20

11:17am Sun 8 Jun 14

Pasiphae says...

No dog should be left in the garden unattended for long periods of time. In fact no dog should be left alone for more that 3 or 4 hours full stop. Since this poor dog obviously has major issues with separation, maybe the owner should rethink the whole situation.
No dog should be left in the garden unattended for long periods of time. In fact no dog should be left alone for more that 3 or 4 hours full stop. Since this poor dog obviously has major issues with separation, maybe the owner should rethink the whole situation. Pasiphae
  • Score: 57

11:17am Sun 8 Jun 14

hooplaa says...

Barking dogs, wild animals biting people! How are we going to carry on! Tomorrows top story 'Ants build nest in garden'
Barking dogs, wild animals biting people! How are we going to carry on! Tomorrows top story 'Ants build nest in garden' hooplaa
  • Score: -5

11:26am Sun 8 Jun 14

churchill gardens resident says...

Sounds like political correctness taken to the next level..Maby it should be adopted throughout the EU. What do I do now when my neighbour makes some noise..Answers on a postcard only Please!!!!!
Sounds like political correctness taken to the next level..Maby it should be adopted throughout the EU. What do I do now when my neighbour makes some noise..Answers on a postcard only Please!!!!! churchill gardens resident
  • Score: -29

11:27am Sun 8 Jun 14

High Treason says...

The owner is treating the dog unfairly and judging by it having to go to court seems to come across as arrogant and selfish.
Lurchers are very affectionate dogs and need lots of attention. I can't think why anyone would have a lurcher if they want to leave it outside most of the time. I have one and she likes plenty of time spent with her, even if its only to lie at your feet whilst you watch tv.
The owner is treating the dog unfairly and judging by it having to go to court seems to come across as arrogant and selfish. Lurchers are very affectionate dogs and need lots of attention. I can't think why anyone would have a lurcher if they want to leave it outside most of the time. I have one and she likes plenty of time spent with her, even if its only to lie at your feet whilst you watch tv. High Treason
  • Score: 50

11:30am Sun 8 Jun 14

High Treason says...

nickynoodah wrote:
Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet
Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land,
Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know
nickynoodah wrote: Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know.
One way ticket we hope.
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land, Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know[/p][/quote]nickynoodah wrote: Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know. One way ticket we hope. High Treason
  • Score: 24

11:30am Sun 8 Jun 14

Bob Bournemouth says...

hooplaa wrote:
Barking dogs, wild animals biting people! How are we going to carry on! Tomorrows top story 'Ants build nest in garden'
I don't think you realise how awful it is to have a neighbour's dog(s) bark incessantly. We had neighbours who would leave their 3 dogs outside for hours while they went out and they would not stop barking until they returned We were so relieved when they moved out!.
[quote][p][bold]hooplaa[/bold] wrote: Barking dogs, wild animals biting people! How are we going to carry on! Tomorrows top story 'Ants build nest in garden'[/p][/quote]I don't think you realise how awful it is to have a neighbour's dog(s) bark incessantly. We had neighbours who would leave their 3 dogs outside for hours while they went out and they would not stop barking until they returned We were so relieved when they moved out!. Bob Bournemouth
  • Score: 57

11:48am Sun 8 Jun 14

elite50 says...

Would you not want to live in that house?
The dog is locked up all day and whenever its owner goes out.
The stink would be awful.
Well, if you want to annoy your neighbours, non stop.
SERVES YOU RIGHT!
Justice has been served.
It is about time that people come first.
I cant wait for the dog idiots to hate me for this.
Just one thing, if you want to attack me, use reasonable arguments to back up your case, not the "poor doggy, its not his fault" excuse.
Would you not want to live in that house? The dog is locked up all day and whenever its owner goes out. The stink would be awful. Well, if you want to annoy your neighbours, non stop. SERVES YOU RIGHT! Justice has been served. It is about time that people come first. I cant wait for the dog idiots to hate me for this. Just one thing, if you want to attack me, use reasonable arguments to back up your case, not the "poor doggy, its not his fault" excuse. elite50
  • Score: 15

12:06pm Sun 8 Jun 14

boardsandphotos says...

elite50 wrote:
Would you not want to live in that house?
The dog is locked up all day and whenever its owner goes out.
The stink would be awful.
Well, if you want to annoy your neighbours, non stop.
SERVES YOU RIGHT!
Justice has been served.
It is about time that people come first.
I cant wait for the dog idiots to hate me for this.
Just one thing, if you want to attack me, use reasonable arguments to back up your case, not the "poor doggy, its not his fault" excuse.
Well it's not the dogs fault is it? It didn't ask to be left in the garden for long periods of time and most sensible dog owners would agree that this isn't how you should treat a dog.

If you are going to take on the responsibility of owning a dog you need to think about it properly, will you have enough time to exercise it, will you or someone else be able to let the dog out, exercise it while you are at work? Your garden (if you are lucky enough to have one) is not a dog sitter.

Personally, I would love to own a dog but my current living arrangememts, lifestyle choices and work patterns mean it would be deeply unfair and cruel on the dog, so I don't have one it's that simple, it's just a pity others don't think about these simple steps before taking ownership of a dog.
[quote][p][bold]elite50[/bold] wrote: Would you not want to live in that house? The dog is locked up all day and whenever its owner goes out. The stink would be awful. Well, if you want to annoy your neighbours, non stop. SERVES YOU RIGHT! Justice has been served. It is about time that people come first. I cant wait for the dog idiots to hate me for this. Just one thing, if you want to attack me, use reasonable arguments to back up your case, not the "poor doggy, its not his fault" excuse.[/p][/quote]Well it's not the dogs fault is it? It didn't ask to be left in the garden for long periods of time and most sensible dog owners would agree that this isn't how you should treat a dog. If you are going to take on the responsibility of owning a dog you need to think about it properly, will you have enough time to exercise it, will you or someone else be able to let the dog out, exercise it while you are at work? Your garden (if you are lucky enough to have one) is not a dog sitter. Personally, I would love to own a dog but my current living arrangememts, lifestyle choices and work patterns mean it would be deeply unfair and cruel on the dog, so I don't have one it's that simple, it's just a pity others don't think about these simple steps before taking ownership of a dog. boardsandphotos
  • Score: 52

12:11pm Sun 8 Jun 14

RM says...

Very sad for the dog that it has such an (apparently) irresponsible owner. If she really cared for the dog she would now take it to an animal behaviorist and find out why it does all this barking - if it is separation anxiety this is something that can be worked on & cured. Hope whatever it is it can be resolved for the sake of both the dog & owner.
Very sad for the dog that it has such an (apparently) irresponsible owner. If she really cared for the dog she would now take it to an animal behaviorist and find out why it does all this barking - if it is separation anxiety this is something that can be worked on & cured. Hope whatever it is it can be resolved for the sake of both the dog & owner. RM
  • Score: 14

12:13pm Sun 8 Jun 14

BmthNewshound says...

The real issue is that people don't understand what a responsibility owning a dog is and choose a dogs on its looks not on whether the breed characteristics. A dog should never be left for more than 4 hours, if you're out at walk all day and can't get home at lunchtime you need to get a friend, relative or professional dog walker to take the dog out during the day. Dogs should never just be left outside in the garden all day.
.
As a dog owner myself one of the things that makes me really angry is the level of ignorance demonstrated by some dog owners. So often its the owners who are the problem not the dog.
The real issue is that people don't understand what a responsibility owning a dog is and choose a dogs on its looks not on whether the breed characteristics. A dog should never be left for more than 4 hours, if you're out at walk all day and can't get home at lunchtime you need to get a friend, relative or professional dog walker to take the dog out during the day. Dogs should never just be left outside in the garden all day. . As a dog owner myself one of the things that makes me really angry is the level of ignorance demonstrated by some dog owners. So often its the owners who are the problem not the dog. BmthNewshound
  • Score: 45

12:27pm Sun 8 Jun 14

Pablo23 says...

nickynoodah wrote:
Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet
Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land,
Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know
Do muzzles silence dogs?

Do they make human muzzles I wonder
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land, Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know[/p][/quote]Do muzzles silence dogs? Do they make human muzzles I wonder Pablo23
  • Score: 22

12:28pm Sun 8 Jun 14

stonkin says...

The owner obviously doesn't want the dog messing up the house so hopefully they'll now relinquish ownership (responsibly) and the dog find a new home where it's really wanted and loved.
The owner obviously doesn't want the dog messing up the house so hopefully they'll now relinquish ownership (responsibly) and the dog find a new home where it's really wanted and loved. stonkin
  • Score: 24

12:58pm Sun 8 Jun 14

bobthedestroyer says...

Although not really a huge story. ..slow news day. I think it is right to let people know about their impact on others. No, this isn't the dogs fault but you can train them the owner created the situation by not addressing the anxiety issue. I have a dog and she barks but she isn't shut outside on her own.
Although not really a huge story. ..slow news day. I think it is right to let people know about their impact on others. No, this isn't the dogs fault but you can train them the owner created the situation by not addressing the anxiety issue. I have a dog and she barks but she isn't shut outside on her own. bobthedestroyer
  • Score: 12

1:07pm Sun 8 Jun 14

hamworthygirl says...

Pasiphae wrote:
No dog should be left in the garden unattended for long periods of time. In fact no dog should be left alone for more that 3 or 4 hours full stop. Since this poor dog obviously has major issues with separation, maybe the owner should rethink the whole situation.
Quite agree i waited till i retired to have a dog so it wouldnt be left for long periods its not fair on the animal. My neighbours have a dog which never gets walked just let out in the small garden now and then, barks whenever i go out in my garden.I can imagine if you live next to one who barks constantly it must be annoying.
[quote][p][bold]Pasiphae[/bold] wrote: No dog should be left in the garden unattended for long periods of time. In fact no dog should be left alone for more that 3 or 4 hours full stop. Since this poor dog obviously has major issues with separation, maybe the owner should rethink the whole situation.[/p][/quote]Quite agree i waited till i retired to have a dog so it wouldnt be left for long periods its not fair on the animal. My neighbours have a dog which never gets walked just let out in the small garden now and then, barks whenever i go out in my garden.I can imagine if you live next to one who barks constantly it must be annoying. hamworthygirl
  • Score: 15

1:07pm Sun 8 Jun 14

hamworthygirl says...

Pasiphae wrote:
No dog should be left in the garden unattended for long periods of time. In fact no dog should be left alone for more that 3 or 4 hours full stop. Since this poor dog obviously has major issues with separation, maybe the owner should rethink the whole situation.
Quite agree i waited till i retired to have a dog so it wouldnt be left for long periods its not fair on the animal. My neighbours have a dog which never gets walked just let out in the small garden now and then, barks whenever i go out in my garden.I can imagine if you live next to one who barks constantly it must be annoying.
[quote][p][bold]Pasiphae[/bold] wrote: No dog should be left in the garden unattended for long periods of time. In fact no dog should be left alone for more that 3 or 4 hours full stop. Since this poor dog obviously has major issues with separation, maybe the owner should rethink the whole situation.[/p][/quote]Quite agree i waited till i retired to have a dog so it wouldnt be left for long periods its not fair on the animal. My neighbours have a dog which never gets walked just let out in the small garden now and then, barks whenever i go out in my garden.I can imagine if you live next to one who barks constantly it must be annoying. hamworthygirl
  • Score: 2

1:07pm Sun 8 Jun 14

hamworthygirl says...

Pasiphae wrote:
No dog should be left in the garden unattended for long periods of time. In fact no dog should be left alone for more that 3 or 4 hours full stop. Since this poor dog obviously has major issues with separation, maybe the owner should rethink the whole situation.
Quite agree i waited till i retired to have a dog so it wouldnt be left for long periods its not fair on the animal. My neighbours have a dog which never gets walked just let out in the small garden now and then, barks whenever i go out in my garden.I can imagine if you live next to one who barks constantly it must be annoying.
[quote][p][bold]Pasiphae[/bold] wrote: No dog should be left in the garden unattended for long periods of time. In fact no dog should be left alone for more that 3 or 4 hours full stop. Since this poor dog obviously has major issues with separation, maybe the owner should rethink the whole situation.[/p][/quote]Quite agree i waited till i retired to have a dog so it wouldnt be left for long periods its not fair on the animal. My neighbours have a dog which never gets walked just let out in the small garden now and then, barks whenever i go out in my garden.I can imagine if you live next to one who barks constantly it must be annoying. hamworthygirl
  • Score: -1

1:17pm Sun 8 Jun 14

abc100 says...

The majority of dog owners that I come across everyday are the most ignorant of people, they don't seem to be able to accept that most of us don't want their dogs jumping up at us, trying to lick us or trying to hump our legs or why we wouldn't want them doing their business on the pavement outside our houses, I'm sure all the dog owners on this site will tell us that they ALWAYS pick up their dog mess and they are responsible dog owners and it's only a few that don't pick it up, please dog owners try to get the dog to have a pee on your gate posts instead of taking them for a walk away from your own houses so they can do it elsewhere
The majority of dog owners that I come across everyday are the most ignorant of people, they don't seem to be able to accept that most of us don't want their dogs jumping up at us, trying to lick us or trying to hump our legs or why we wouldn't want them doing their business on the pavement outside our houses, I'm sure all the dog owners on this site will tell us that they ALWAYS pick up their dog mess and they are responsible dog owners and it's only a few that don't pick it up, please dog owners try to get the dog to have a pee on your gate posts instead of taking them for a walk away from your own houses so they can do it elsewhere abc100
  • Score: -15

2:10pm Sun 8 Jun 14

holdinkæft says...

RM wrote:
Very sad for the dog that it has such an (apparently) irresponsible owner. If she really cared for the dog she would now take it to an animal behaviorist and find out why it does all this barking - if it is separation anxiety this is something that can be worked on & cured. Hope whatever it is it can be resolved for the sake of both the dog & owner.
Lurchers hate to be left alone. its part of thier makeup.
she should get a cat. then it can purr all day long.
[quote][p][bold]RM[/bold] wrote: Very sad for the dog that it has such an (apparently) irresponsible owner. If she really cared for the dog she would now take it to an animal behaviorist and find out why it does all this barking - if it is separation anxiety this is something that can be worked on & cured. Hope whatever it is it can be resolved for the sake of both the dog & owner.[/p][/quote]Lurchers hate to be left alone. its part of thier makeup. she should get a cat. then it can purr all day long. holdinkæft
  • Score: 10

2:41pm Sun 8 Jun 14

High Treason says...

elite50 wrote:
Would you not want to live in that house?
The dog is locked up all day and whenever its owner goes out.
The stink would be awful.
Well, if you want to annoy your neighbours, non stop.
SERVES YOU RIGHT!
Justice has been served.
It is about time that people come first.
I cant wait for the dog idiots to hate me for this.
Just one thing, if you want to attack me, use reasonable arguments to back up your case, not the "poor doggy, its not his fault" excuse.
elite50 wrote: It is about time that people come first.

Hence the name Elite 50
The dog owner put him/her self first or is it the other people who come first?
When you look at the over population in the world, how humans ruthlessly exploit other humans, the planet and animals I believe humans should be last on the list.
[quote][p][bold]elite50[/bold] wrote: Would you not want to live in that house? The dog is locked up all day and whenever its owner goes out. The stink would be awful. Well, if you want to annoy your neighbours, non stop. SERVES YOU RIGHT! Justice has been served. It is about time that people come first. I cant wait for the dog idiots to hate me for this. Just one thing, if you want to attack me, use reasonable arguments to back up your case, not the "poor doggy, its not his fault" excuse.[/p][/quote]elite50 wrote: It is about time that people come first. Hence the name Elite 50 The dog owner put him/her self first or is it the other people who come first? When you look at the over population in the world, how humans ruthlessly exploit other humans, the planet and animals I believe humans should be last on the list. High Treason
  • Score: 4

2:47pm Sun 8 Jun 14

nothingtofear says...

I remember that over 30 years ago, new people moved into next door to my parents. They had a dog that they left out in the garden when they went to work and much like the lurcher mentioned in the Echo story, it hated being left alone and barked it's head off all day every day.

Anyway, my point is that the couple that had moved in were reasonable people who didn't realise the nuisance that their dog was causing and when my father spoke to them they took the necessary steps and the dog was rarely if ever heard barking again so It's somewhat ridiculous that this even got as far as the courts. Surely a polite request by the complainee to the dog owner should have sufficed?
I remember that over 30 years ago, new people moved into next door to my parents. They had a dog that they left out in the garden when they went to work and much like the lurcher mentioned in the Echo story, it hated being left alone and barked it's head off all day every day. Anyway, my point is that the couple that had moved in were reasonable people who didn't realise the nuisance that their dog was causing and when my father spoke to them they took the necessary steps and the dog was rarely if ever heard barking again so It's somewhat ridiculous that this even got as far as the courts. Surely a polite request by the complainee to the dog owner should have sufficed? nothingtofear
  • Score: 8

3:47pm Sun 8 Jun 14

bobthedestroyer says...

nothingtofear wrote:
I remember that over 30 years ago, new people moved into next door to my parents. They had a dog that they left out in the garden when they went to work and much like the lurcher mentioned in the Echo story, it hated being left alone and barked it's head off all day every day.

Anyway, my point is that the couple that had moved in were reasonable people who didn't realise the nuisance that their dog was causing and when my father spoke to them they took the necessary steps and the dog was rarely if ever heard barking again so It's somewhat ridiculous that this even got as far as the courts. Surely a polite request by the complainee to the dog owner should have sufficed?
30 years ago people were more civil. You try mentioning something these days and you'll get verbally attacked or worse.
[quote][p][bold]nothingtofear[/bold] wrote: I remember that over 30 years ago, new people moved into next door to my parents. They had a dog that they left out in the garden when they went to work and much like the lurcher mentioned in the Echo story, it hated being left alone and barked it's head off all day every day. Anyway, my point is that the couple that had moved in were reasonable people who didn't realise the nuisance that their dog was causing and when my father spoke to them they took the necessary steps and the dog was rarely if ever heard barking again so It's somewhat ridiculous that this even got as far as the courts. Surely a polite request by the complainee to the dog owner should have sufficed?[/p][/quote]30 years ago people were more civil. You try mentioning something these days and you'll get verbally attacked or worse. bobthedestroyer
  • Score: 22

3:48pm Sun 8 Jun 14

bobthedestroyer says...

abc100 wrote:
The majority of dog owners that I come across everyday are the most ignorant of people, they don't seem to be able to accept that most of us don't want their dogs jumping up at us, trying to lick us or trying to hump our legs or why we wouldn't want them doing their business on the pavement outside our houses, I'm sure all the dog owners on this site will tell us that they ALWAYS pick up their dog mess and they are responsible dog owners and it's only a few that don't pick it up, please dog owners try to get the dog to have a pee on your gate posts instead of taking them for a walk away from your own houses so they can do it elsewhere
And to balance the argument the majority of non dog owners are also ignorant.
[quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: The majority of dog owners that I come across everyday are the most ignorant of people, they don't seem to be able to accept that most of us don't want their dogs jumping up at us, trying to lick us or trying to hump our legs or why we wouldn't want them doing their business on the pavement outside our houses, I'm sure all the dog owners on this site will tell us that they ALWAYS pick up their dog mess and they are responsible dog owners and it's only a few that don't pick it up, please dog owners try to get the dog to have a pee on your gate posts instead of taking them for a walk away from your own houses so they can do it elsewhere[/p][/quote]And to balance the argument the majority of non dog owners are also ignorant. bobthedestroyer
  • Score: 5

3:51pm Sun 8 Jun 14

BIGTONE says...

Pablo23 wrote:
nickynoodah wrote:
Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet
Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land,
Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know
Do muzzles silence dogs?

Do they make human muzzles I wonder
They make explosive suppositories.
[quote][p][bold]Pablo23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land, Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know[/p][/quote]Do muzzles silence dogs? Do they make human muzzles I wonder[/p][/quote]They make explosive suppositories. BIGTONE
  • Score: 5

4:29pm Sun 8 Jun 14

abc100 says...

bobthedestroyer wrote:
abc100 wrote:
The majority of dog owners that I come across everyday are the most ignorant of people, they don't seem to be able to accept that most of us don't want their dogs jumping up at us, trying to lick us or trying to hump our legs or why we wouldn't want them doing their business on the pavement outside our houses, I'm sure all the dog owners on this site will tell us that they ALWAYS pick up their dog mess and they are responsible dog owners and it's only a few that don't pick it up, please dog owners try to get the dog to have a pee on your gate posts instead of taking them for a walk away from your own houses so they can do it elsewhere
And to balance the argument the majority of non dog owners are also ignorant.
I'm not arguing about that, it is their refusal to accept that none dog lovers don't want to be licked, humped, or have them jumping up at them
[quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: The majority of dog owners that I come across everyday are the most ignorant of people, they don't seem to be able to accept that most of us don't want their dogs jumping up at us, trying to lick us or trying to hump our legs or why we wouldn't want them doing their business on the pavement outside our houses, I'm sure all the dog owners on this site will tell us that they ALWAYS pick up their dog mess and they are responsible dog owners and it's only a few that don't pick it up, please dog owners try to get the dog to have a pee on your gate posts instead of taking them for a walk away from your own houses so they can do it elsewhere[/p][/quote]And to balance the argument the majority of non dog owners are also ignorant.[/p][/quote]I'm not arguing about that, it is their refusal to accept that none dog lovers don't want to be licked, humped, or have them jumping up at them abc100
  • Score: 1

4:45pm Sun 8 Jun 14

itsneverblackorwhite says...

Firstly I hope it is the dog near me that has continually barked every night for the past two year and secondly it hardly makes Bournemouth Councils media friendly anti-social behaviour unit look good does it!
Firstly I hope it is the dog near me that has continually barked every night for the past two year and secondly it hardly makes Bournemouth Councils media friendly anti-social behaviour unit look good does it! itsneverblackorwhite
  • Score: 14

4:53pm Sun 8 Jun 14

nothingtofear says...

bobthedestroyer wrote:
nothingtofear wrote:
I remember that over 30 years ago, new people moved into next door to my parents. They had a dog that they left out in the garden when they went to work and much like the lurcher mentioned in the Echo story, it hated being left alone and barked it's head off all day every day.

Anyway, my point is that the couple that had moved in were reasonable people who didn't realise the nuisance that their dog was causing and when my father spoke to them they took the necessary steps and the dog was rarely if ever heard barking again so It's somewhat ridiculous that this even got as far as the courts. Surely a polite request by the complainee to the dog owner should have sufficed?
30 years ago people were more civil. You try mentioning something these days and you'll get verbally attacked or worse.
That's very true Bob unfortunately.
[quote][p][bold]bobthedestroyer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nothingtofear[/bold] wrote: I remember that over 30 years ago, new people moved into next door to my parents. They had a dog that they left out in the garden when they went to work and much like the lurcher mentioned in the Echo story, it hated being left alone and barked it's head off all day every day. Anyway, my point is that the couple that had moved in were reasonable people who didn't realise the nuisance that their dog was causing and when my father spoke to them they took the necessary steps and the dog was rarely if ever heard barking again so It's somewhat ridiculous that this even got as far as the courts. Surely a polite request by the complainee to the dog owner should have sufficed?[/p][/quote]30 years ago people were more civil. You try mentioning something these days and you'll get verbally attacked or worse.[/p][/quote]That's very true Bob unfortunately. nothingtofear
  • Score: 10

5:45pm Sun 8 Jun 14

Pablo23 says...

BIGTONE wrote:
Pablo23 wrote:
nickynoodah wrote:
Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet
Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land,
Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know
Do muzzles silence dogs?

Do they make human muzzles I wonder
They make explosive suppositories.
Are you going to stand for that Nicky. He`s suggesting that you deserve to have your bottom blown up.
[quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land, Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know[/p][/quote]Do muzzles silence dogs? Do they make human muzzles I wonder[/p][/quote]They make explosive suppositories.[/p][/quote]Are you going to stand for that Nicky. He`s suggesting that you deserve to have your bottom blown up. Pablo23
  • Score: 2

6:03pm Sun 8 Jun 14

nickynoodah says...

Pablo23 wrote:
BIGTONE wrote:
Pablo23 wrote:
nickynoodah wrote:
Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet
Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land,
Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know
Do muzzles silence dogs?

Do they make human muzzles I wonder
They make explosive suppositories.
Are you going to stand for that Nicky. He`s suggesting that you deserve to have your bottom blown up.
I don't believe 3:51pm Sun 8 Jun 14 above swallows suppositories' like he says
it just made it up
I wouldn't put it past him thpugh he eats s
s**t for his dinner so I suppose he eats the suppositories for his pudding
don't forget your bin tomorrow little johnty diddle.
[quote][p][bold]Pablo23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land, Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know[/p][/quote]Do muzzles silence dogs? Do they make human muzzles I wonder[/p][/quote]They make explosive suppositories.[/p][/quote]Are you going to stand for that Nicky. He`s suggesting that you deserve to have your bottom blown up.[/p][/quote]I don't believe 3:51pm Sun 8 Jun 14 above swallows suppositories' like he says it just made it up I wouldn't put it past him thpugh he eats s s**t for his dinner so I suppose he eats the suppositories for his pudding don't forget your bin tomorrow little johnty diddle. nickynoodah
  • Score: -10

6:08pm Sun 8 Jun 14

blackdog1 says...

nickynoodah wrote:
Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet
Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land,
Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know
And yet another stupid pointless comment from this idiot!
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land, Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know[/p][/quote]And yet another stupid pointless comment from this idiot! blackdog1
  • Score: 7

7:41pm Sun 8 Jun 14

drJones says...

who reads only the comments nowadays with negative reviews :)
who reads only the comments nowadays with negative reviews :) drJones
  • Score: 2

7:43pm Sun 8 Jun 14

Tango Charlie says...

I do wish we heard more of the evidence. Comments based on a part of the story will be biased on preconceived perceptions. Dogs alone get lonely, like us. Locked in a house they can get mental health problems, like lions in a cage. Some breeds need lots of exercise, some don't. Some dogs bark excessively for a few weeks in a new home.
I do not think the story has enough evidence to make a judgemental comment from any sane person.
I do wish we heard more of the evidence. Comments based on a part of the story will be biased on preconceived perceptions. Dogs alone get lonely, like us. Locked in a house they can get mental health problems, like lions in a cage. Some breeds need lots of exercise, some don't. Some dogs bark excessively for a few weeks in a new home. I do not think the story has enough evidence to make a judgemental comment from any sane person. Tango Charlie
  • Score: 5

7:54pm Sun 8 Jun 14

nickynoodah says...

Dogs alone get lonely, like us. Locked in a house they can get mental health problems
do you mean like pete knobdirt George
you know it is.
Dogs alone get lonely, like us. Locked in a house they can get mental health problems do you mean like pete knobdirt George you know it is. nickynoodah
  • Score: -8

7:59pm Sun 8 Jun 14

pete woodley says...

blackdog1 wrote:
nickynoodah wrote:
Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet
Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land,
Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know
And yet another stupid pointless comment from this idiot!
And just what are your qualifications for calling nickydoodah an idiot.As i see it,he is not a friend of Beesley, Mayne,or Williams,not a UKIP supporter.I doubt that he drinks with Eddie Mitchell,Richard Carr,or Harry Rednapp,He is probably as normal as you and me (no nasty comments please).If he does frequent the Triangle,thats his business,he is most likely having a consultation with his local councillor.
[quote][p][bold]blackdog1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land, Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know[/p][/quote]And yet another stupid pointless comment from this idiot![/p][/quote]And just what are your qualifications for calling nickydoodah an idiot.As i see it,he is not a friend of Beesley, Mayne,or Williams,not a UKIP supporter.I doubt that he drinks with Eddie Mitchell,Richard Carr,or Harry Rednapp,He is probably as normal as you and me (no nasty comments please).If he does frequent the Triangle,thats his business,he is most likely having a consultation with his local councillor. pete woodley
  • Score: 1

8:03pm Sun 8 Jun 14

pete woodley says...

blackdog1 wrote:
nickynoodah wrote:
Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet
Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land,
Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know
And yet another stupid pointless comment from this idiot!
And just what are your qualifications for calling nickydoodah an idiot.As i see it,he is not a friend of Beesley, Mayne,or Williams,not a UKIP supporter.I doubt that he drinks with Eddie Mitchell,Richard Carr,or Harry Rednapp,He is probably as normal as you and me (no nasty comments please).If he does frequent the Triangle,thats his business,he is most likely having a consultation with his local councillor.
[quote][p][bold]blackdog1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land, Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know[/p][/quote]And yet another stupid pointless comment from this idiot![/p][/quote]And just what are your qualifications for calling nickydoodah an idiot.As i see it,he is not a friend of Beesley, Mayne,or Williams,not a UKIP supporter.I doubt that he drinks with Eddie Mitchell,Richard Carr,or Harry Rednapp,He is probably as normal as you and me (no nasty comments please).If he does frequent the Triangle,thats his business,he is most likely having a consultation with his local councillor. pete woodley
  • Score: 0

9:53pm Sun 8 Jun 14

biffa78 says...

nickynoodah wrote:
Pablo23 wrote:
BIGTONE wrote:
Pablo23 wrote:
nickynoodah wrote:
Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet
Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land,
Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know
Do muzzles silence dogs?

Do they make human muzzles I wonder
They make explosive suppositories.
Are you going to stand for that Nicky. He`s suggesting that you deserve to have your bottom blown up.
I don't believe 3:51pm Sun 8 Jun 14 above swallows suppositories' like he says
it just made it up
I wouldn't put it past him thpugh he eats s
s**t for his dinner so I suppose he eats the suppositories for his pudding
don't forget your bin tomorrow little johnty diddle.
PLEASE CAN PUT TRANSLATE IN ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!1
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land, Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know[/p][/quote]Do muzzles silence dogs? Do they make human muzzles I wonder[/p][/quote]They make explosive suppositories.[/p][/quote]Are you going to stand for that Nicky. He`s suggesting that you deserve to have your bottom blown up.[/p][/quote]I don't believe 3:51pm Sun 8 Jun 14 above swallows suppositories' like he says it just made it up I wouldn't put it past him thpugh he eats s s**t for his dinner so I suppose he eats the suppositories for his pudding don't forget your bin tomorrow little johnty diddle.[/p][/quote]PLEASE CAN PUT TRANSLATE IN ENGLISH!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!1 biffa78
  • Score: 3

9:54pm Sun 8 Jun 14

Hobad1 says...

nickynoodah wrote:
Dogs alone get lonely, like us. Locked in a house they can get mental health problems
do you mean like pete knobdirt George
you know it is.
I think the only one with a mental health problem is you.
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Dogs alone get lonely, like us. Locked in a house they can get mental health problems do you mean like pete knobdirt George you know it is.[/p][/quote]I think the only one with a mental health problem is you. Hobad1
  • Score: 5

11:20pm Sun 8 Jun 14

petermcnally12 says...

Hobad1 wrote:
nickynoodah wrote:
Dogs alone get lonely, like us. Locked in a house they can get mental health problems
do you mean like pete knobdirt George
you know it is.
I think the only one with a mental health problem is you.
You obviously don't know the first thing about mental health problems son, i for one have suffered with split personality disorder for years!
By day i think i am a carnival worker, but by night I'm a pharmacist-come-vigi
lante! Many balls in the sack?
[quote][p][bold]Hobad1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Dogs alone get lonely, like us. Locked in a house they can get mental health problems do you mean like pete knobdirt George you know it is.[/p][/quote]I think the only one with a mental health problem is you.[/p][/quote]You obviously don't know the first thing about mental health problems son, i for one have suffered with split personality disorder for years! By day i think i am a carnival worker, but by night I'm a pharmacist-come-vigi lante! Many balls in the sack? petermcnally12
  • Score: 1

11:35pm Sun 8 Jun 14

Rally says...

Hobad1 wrote:
nickynoodah wrote:
Dogs alone get lonely, like us. Locked in a house they can get mental health problems
do you mean like pete knobdirt George
you know it is.
I think the only one with a mental health problem is you.
This 'nickynoodah' character is clearly ineffectual, inadequate and extremely infantile; and very much the kind of hapless person who finds 'trolling' on the Internet perverted fun.
He or she is best ignored because any direct reaction to their inane and pathetic comments is to him or her food.
Deny them this food and they will in time starve into non-existence - as the warning says: 'Don't Feed the Troll'.

I suggest that in 'nickynoodah's case this process could be speeded up by his or her getting the professional psychotherapy he or she so obviously and so desperately needs.
[quote][p][bold]Hobad1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Dogs alone get lonely, like us. Locked in a house they can get mental health problems do you mean like pete knobdirt George you know it is.[/p][/quote]I think the only one with a mental health problem is you.[/p][/quote]This 'nickynoodah' character is clearly ineffectual, inadequate and extremely infantile; and very much the kind of hapless person who finds 'trolling' on the Internet perverted fun. He or she is best ignored because any direct reaction to their inane and pathetic comments is to him or her food. Deny them this food and they will in time starve into non-existence - as the warning says: 'Don't Feed the Troll'. I suggest that in 'nickynoodah's case this process could be speeded up by his or her getting the professional psychotherapy he or she so obviously and so desperately needs. Rally
  • Score: 4

10:26am Mon 9 Jun 14

speedy231278 says...

abc100 wrote:
The majority of dog owners that I come across everyday are the most ignorant of people, they don't seem to be able to accept that most of us don't want their dogs jumping up at us, trying to lick us or trying to hump our legs or why we wouldn't want them doing their business on the pavement outside our houses, I'm sure all the dog owners on this site will tell us that they ALWAYS pick up their dog mess and they are responsible dog owners and it's only a few that don't pick it up, please dog owners try to get the dog to have a pee on your gate posts instead of taking them for a walk away from your own houses so they can do it elsewhere
Do cat owners pick up the craps their cats leave on everyone else's gardens but their own?
[quote][p][bold]abc100[/bold] wrote: The majority of dog owners that I come across everyday are the most ignorant of people, they don't seem to be able to accept that most of us don't want their dogs jumping up at us, trying to lick us or trying to hump our legs or why we wouldn't want them doing their business on the pavement outside our houses, I'm sure all the dog owners on this site will tell us that they ALWAYS pick up their dog mess and they are responsible dog owners and it's only a few that don't pick it up, please dog owners try to get the dog to have a pee on your gate posts instead of taking them for a walk away from your own houses so they can do it elsewhere[/p][/quote]Do cat owners pick up the craps their cats leave on everyone else's gardens but their own? speedy231278
  • Score: 6

10:28am Mon 9 Jun 14

speedy231278 says...

blackdog1 wrote:
nickynoodah wrote:
Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet
Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land,
Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know
And yet another stupid pointless comment from this idiot!
I think he's got all the qualifications to be a member of Bournemouth council!
[quote][p][bold]blackdog1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land, Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know[/p][/quote]And yet another stupid pointless comment from this idiot![/p][/quote]I think he's got all the qualifications to be a member of Bournemouth council! speedy231278
  • Score: 1

10:29am Mon 9 Jun 14

speedy231278 says...

BIGTONE wrote:
Pablo23 wrote:
nickynoodah wrote:
Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet
Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land,
Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know
Do muzzles silence dogs?

Do they make human muzzles I wonder
They make explosive suppositories.
They're an Italian brand, 'Innuendo'.
[quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pablo23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Muzzle it same with knobbdirt/nobath fit a muzzle on it and throw away the laptop and give us all a bit of peace and quiet Tranquillity at last in council bedsit land, Cant wait to fly out to Rio with me mates next week you know[/p][/quote]Do muzzles silence dogs? Do they make human muzzles I wonder[/p][/quote]They make explosive suppositories.[/p][/quote]They're an Italian brand, 'Innuendo'. speedy231278
  • Score: 0

2:16pm Fri 13 Jun 14

victor meldrew 17 says...

I wonder if you can get a court ruling covering noisy children,and I have a neighbour who likes to practice drumming with the windows open,but hey ho,live and let live.If I win the lottery I can buy a secluded house in the country,or perhaps a private island,its good to dream.
I wonder if you can get a court ruling covering noisy children,and I have a neighbour who likes to practice drumming with the windows open,but hey ho,live and let live.If I win the lottery I can buy a secluded house in the country,or perhaps a private island,its good to dream. victor meldrew 17
  • Score: 0

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