LiveLIVE: Meeting for Poole residents to give views on Navitus Bay wind farm proposals

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  • A maximum of nine representatives from each side will be given five minutes each to give their views
  • The special meeting of the committee is being held in the Civic Centre to hear residents opinions on the environmental statement
  • Committee members will decide whether to recommendation to full council

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3:38pm Mon 2 Jun 14

BmthNewshound says...

Strange time to have a public meeting. Obviously only interested in the views of the towns retired population.
Strange time to have a public meeting. Obviously only interested in the views of the towns retired population. BmthNewshound
  • Score: 9

4:35pm Mon 2 Jun 14

poolebabe says...

As with anything, there are pros and cons. We desperately need to find cleaner sources of energy, but so many people object no matter what is proposed. I really love wildlife and I'm a bird watcher. Do we actually know for fact that this will have a big impact on wildlife? Or is it just speculative? Clean energy is what we need. We can't keep relying on fossil fuel, and that is damaging to the environment as we know. I've stayed in places up country with wind farms and they are fine, not noisy at all and quite hypnotic to watch. The impact on wildlife seems to me personally, to be the main issue realistically, but we can't know the impact on that can we??? Other wind farms exist though with presumably no problems???
As with anything, there are pros and cons. We desperately need to find cleaner sources of energy, but so many people object no matter what is proposed. I really love wildlife and I'm a bird watcher. Do we actually know for fact that this will have a big impact on wildlife? Or is it just speculative? Clean energy is what we need. We can't keep relying on fossil fuel, and that is damaging to the environment as we know. I've stayed in places up country with wind farms and they are fine, not noisy at all and quite hypnotic to watch. The impact on wildlife seems to me personally, to be the main issue realistically, but we can't know the impact on that can we??? Other wind farms exist though with presumably no problems??? poolebabe
  • Score: 3

4:54pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Flusters says...

Surely the government won't allow this wind farm in the light of UNESCO's. marine biologist's and ecologist's disapproval to say nothing of local sailors and the the probable decline of local tourist trade.

'NBDL have reduced the number of wind turbines from 218 to 194, and they have also changed the colour to grey.'

What on earth difference do they think this will make?

Why are France and Holland investing in this wind farm? Lines are being constructed to link our National Grid with The Netherlands and France, so this energy could end up there.

At a time when EEC membership is in question is it wise to give The French and Dutch power over such a strategic piece of coastline and arguably ruin a world heritage site?
Surely the government won't allow this wind farm in the light of UNESCO's. marine biologist's and ecologist's disapproval to say nothing of local sailors and the the probable decline of local tourist trade. 'NBDL have reduced the number of wind turbines from 218 to 194, and they have also changed the colour to grey.' What on earth difference do they think this will make? Why are France and Holland investing in this wind farm? Lines are being constructed to link our National Grid with The Netherlands and France, so this energy could end up there. At a time when EEC membership is in question is it wise to give The French and Dutch power over such a strategic piece of coastline and arguably ruin a world heritage site? Flusters
  • Score: 4

4:56pm Mon 2 Jun 14

mooninpisces says...

Some of the comments, as reported, seem more than usually bizarre.

The costs and benefits of proceeding with the proposal could outweigh the cost of not proceeding with the proposal?? (2.41pm)

All the employees of Brownsea Island Ferries would lose their jobs if the wind farm goes ahead???(3.11pm)
Some of the comments, as reported, seem more than usually bizarre. The costs and benefits of proceeding with the proposal could outweigh the cost of not proceeding with the proposal?? (2.41pm) All the employees of Brownsea Island Ferries would lose their jobs if the wind farm goes ahead???(3.11pm) mooninpisces
  • Score: 2

5:02pm Mon 2 Jun 14

john harman says...

Why are there no alternative options to the wind farm being submitted?
Scotland has binned wind farms for Underwater turbines 100% more efficient, cannot be seen, 8knt tidal flow equivalent to 240knt wind

Germany uses Bio mass plants that burn waste (double win) and only produce steam, and Dorset is exporting waste wood and other waste to power the German Bio mass plants, that are highly efficient and unobtrusive

Just Two options that are out there and being used to great effect.
John H
Why are there no alternative options to the wind farm being submitted? Scotland has binned wind farms for Underwater turbines 100% more efficient, cannot be seen, 8knt tidal flow equivalent to 240knt wind Germany uses Bio mass plants that burn waste (double win) and only produce steam, and Dorset is exporting waste wood and other waste to power the German Bio mass plants, that are highly efficient and unobtrusive Just Two options that are out there and being used to great effect. John H john harman
  • Score: 1

5:25pm Mon 2 Jun 14

saynomore says...

"Mr Hedgeman, from Brownsea Island Ferries Ltd, says that he employs around 14 - 20 people, who would lose their jobs if the Navitus Bay wind farm proposals go ahead."

WHAT!!!!! When did the Brownsea ferries go that far out?? Usual crock of spit from the anti farm bunch,for goodness sake base your objections on fact for once.
"Mr Hedgeman, from Brownsea Island Ferries Ltd, says that he employs around 14 - 20 people, who would lose their jobs if the Navitus Bay wind farm proposals go ahead." WHAT!!!!! When did the Brownsea ferries go that far out?? Usual crock of spit from the anti farm bunch,for goodness sake base your objections on fact for once. saynomore
  • Score: 5

5:29pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Townee says...

Just build them and have other types as well we need clean energy from any source.
Just build them and have other types as well we need clean energy from any source. Townee
  • Score: 2

6:09pm Mon 2 Jun 14

twynham says...

Can anyone who supports Nautilus Bay (including developers) tell me.
(a) Would this scheme go ahead if it were not substantially subsidised by the UK Government?
(b) The developers estimate of its life span is 25 years but previous wind turbines at sea have lasted around 15 years, should it be up to 25 years?
(c) Are the developers making an up front payment to cover demolition and removal should their companies mysteriously disappear at the end of its life span?
(d) Why do Danish & French companies profit from the development and not British?
Thank you.
Can anyone who supports Nautilus Bay (including developers) tell me. (a) Would this scheme go ahead if it were not substantially subsidised by the UK Government? (b) The developers estimate of its life span is 25 years but previous wind turbines at sea have lasted around 15 years, should it be up to 25 years? (c) Are the developers making an up front payment to cover demolition and removal should their companies mysteriously disappear at the end of its life span? (d) Why do Danish & French companies profit from the development and not British? Thank you. twynham
  • Score: 1

6:12pm Mon 2 Jun 14

twynham says...

Sooorry, obviously should be Navitus Bay.
Another senior moment.
Sooorry, obviously should be Navitus Bay. Another senior moment. twynham
  • Score: 0

7:43pm Mon 2 Jun 14

lionheart says...

What happened with the slot promised by Cllr Clements at 3.44 that members of the public could put forward their questions after the adjournment break. Nothing is reported above. Did it happen?
What happened with the slot promised by Cllr Clements at 3.44 that members of the public could put forward their questions after the adjournment break. Nothing is reported above. Did it happen? lionheart
  • Score: -1

7:44pm Mon 2 Jun 14

lionheart says...

twynham wrote:
Can anyone who supports Nautilus Bay (including developers) tell me.
(a) Would this scheme go ahead if it were not substantially subsidised by the UK Government?
(b) The developers estimate of its life span is 25 years but previous wind turbines at sea have lasted around 15 years, should it be up to 25 years?
(c) Are the developers making an up front payment to cover demolition and removal should their companies mysteriously disappear at the end of its life span?
(d) Why do Danish & French companies profit from the development and not British?
Thank you.
It's a Dutch & French consortium.
[quote][p][bold]twynham[/bold] wrote: Can anyone who supports Nautilus Bay (including developers) tell me. (a) Would this scheme go ahead if it were not substantially subsidised by the UK Government? (b) The developers estimate of its life span is 25 years but previous wind turbines at sea have lasted around 15 years, should it be up to 25 years? (c) Are the developers making an up front payment to cover demolition and removal should their companies mysteriously disappear at the end of its life span? (d) Why do Danish & French companies profit from the development and not British? Thank you.[/p][/quote]It's a Dutch & French consortium. lionheart
  • Score: 1

9:05pm Mon 2 Jun 14

twynham says...

lionheart wrote:
twynham wrote:
Can anyone who supports Nautilus Bay (including developers) tell me.
(a) Would this scheme go ahead if it were not substantially subsidised by the UK Government?
(b) The developers estimate of its life span is 25 years but previous wind turbines at sea have lasted around 15 years, should it be up to 25 years?
(c) Are the developers making an up front payment to cover demolition and removal should their companies mysteriously disappear at the end of its life span?
(d) Why do Danish & French companies profit from the development and not British?
Thank you.
It's a Dutch & French consortium.
Thanks, it's been a long day!
[quote][p][bold]lionheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]twynham[/bold] wrote: Can anyone who supports Nautilus Bay (including developers) tell me. (a) Would this scheme go ahead if it were not substantially subsidised by the UK Government? (b) The developers estimate of its life span is 25 years but previous wind turbines at sea have lasted around 15 years, should it be up to 25 years? (c) Are the developers making an up front payment to cover demolition and removal should their companies mysteriously disappear at the end of its life span? (d) Why do Danish & French companies profit from the development and not British? Thank you.[/p][/quote]It's a Dutch & French consortium.[/p][/quote]Thanks, it's been a long day! twynham
  • Score: 1

10:11pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Flusters says...

Anyone who does not want this wind farm should register before the end of June in order to stop the project. Challenge Navitus website has the details.
Anyone who does not want this wind farm should register before the end of June in order to stop the project. Challenge Navitus website has the details. Flusters
  • Score: -2

10:15pm Mon 2 Jun 14

yet_another_one says...

lionheart wrote:
twynham wrote:
Can anyone who supports Nautilus Bay (including developers) tell me.
(a) Would this scheme go ahead if it were not substantially subsidised by the UK Government?
(b) The developers estimate of its life span is 25 years but previous wind turbines at sea have lasted around 15 years, should it be up to 25 years?
(c) Are the developers making an up front payment to cover demolition and removal should their companies mysteriously disappear at the end of its life span?
(d) Why do Danish & French companies profit from the development and not British?
Thank you.
It's a Dutch & French consortium.
Britain should invest - WHY do we rely on others so often to dig deep when we all will benefit.
[quote][p][bold]lionheart[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]twynham[/bold] wrote: Can anyone who supports Nautilus Bay (including developers) tell me. (a) Would this scheme go ahead if it were not substantially subsidised by the UK Government? (b) The developers estimate of its life span is 25 years but previous wind turbines at sea have lasted around 15 years, should it be up to 25 years? (c) Are the developers making an up front payment to cover demolition and removal should their companies mysteriously disappear at the end of its life span? (d) Why do Danish & French companies profit from the development and not British? Thank you.[/p][/quote]It's a Dutch & French consortium.[/p][/quote]Britain should invest - WHY do we rely on others so often to dig deep when we all will benefit. yet_another_one
  • Score: 2

10:29pm Mon 2 Jun 14

Alice Rogers says...

I'd just like to put the record straight.

I did not say I was speaking on behalf of anyone else. I spoke on my own behalf as a someone operating a small business in Poole.

My business values reflect my own values, which centre around justice, community and responsibility.

I said it would be a lost opportunity if Poole did not support the wind farm development. To support it would set a positive example.
I'd just like to put the record straight. I did not say I was speaking on behalf of anyone else. I spoke on my own behalf as a someone operating a small business in Poole. My business values reflect my own values, which centre around justice, community and responsibility. I said it would be a lost opportunity if Poole did not support the wind farm development. To support it would set a positive example. Alice Rogers
  • Score: 0

6:51am Tue 3 Jun 14

BIGTONE says...

I guess the turbines height will have a major influence on future air displays at the summer air show,especially the Red Arrows.
I guess the turbines height will have a major influence on future air displays at the summer air show,especially the Red Arrows. BIGTONE
  • Score: 0

8:08am Tue 3 Jun 14

save energy says...

Greater Gabard in the north sea off essex at 509 MW is about the same size as Navitus.
Presently generating 1.2% of capacity = 6.2 MW
better than yesterday when it was TAKING 15.3 MW from the grid !!!
see live data -
Wind farms- http://www.rwe.com/w
eb/cms/en/206488/rwe
-innogy/sites/produc
tion-data-live/rwe-r
enewable-energy-live
/

& Grid -
http://www.gridwatch
.templar.co.uk/

We have 5,500 large tubines + aprox 20,000 small curently supplying just 1.6% of demand
but costing us £18 billion/yr in subsity's
Economic madness !!
Greater Gabard in the north sea off essex at 509 MW is about the same size as Navitus. Presently generating 1.2% of capacity = 6.2 MW better than yesterday when it was TAKING 15.3 MW from the grid !!! see live data - Wind farms- http://www.rwe.com/w eb/cms/en/206488/rwe -innogy/sites/produc tion-data-live/rwe-r enewable-energy-live / & Grid - http://www.gridwatch .templar.co.uk/ We have 5,500 large tubines + aprox 20,000 small curently supplying just 1.6% of demand but costing us £18 billion/yr in subsity's Economic madness !! save energy
  • Score: 0

8:20am Tue 3 Jun 14

mooninpisces says...

Greater Gabbard (509MW) is "about the same size" as Navitus (970MW)????? (save energy, above)
Greater Gabbard (509MW) is "about the same size" as Navitus (970MW)????? (save energy, above) mooninpisces
  • Score: 0

8:29am Tue 3 Jun 14

save energy says...

Sorry, I should read before posting,
its been a long night, off to bed now.
Sorry, I should read before posting, its been a long night, off to bed now. save energy
  • Score: 0

1:00pm Tue 3 Jun 14

a.g.o.g. says...

mooninpisces wrote:
Greater Gabbard (509MW) is "about the same size" as Navitus (970MW)????? (save energy, above)
And so , on a like-for-like basis, Navitus would have been drawing 30megaWatts off The Grid to stay alive and not just 15
and which regular situation has been raised many times before !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Next!
[quote][p][bold]mooninpisces[/bold] wrote: Greater Gabbard (509MW) is "about the same size" as Navitus (970MW)????? (save energy, above)[/p][/quote]And so , on a like-for-like basis, Navitus would have been drawing 30megaWatts off The Grid to stay alive and not just 15 and which regular situation has been raised many times before !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Next! a.g.o.g.
  • Score: 0

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