"Like a concentration camp" - Gypsy Council raise concerns over planned security for transit site at Piddlehinton

Travellers' site proposed for village

Travellers' site proposed for village "like a concentration camp" says Gypsy Council

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A TRAVELLERS’ site proposed for a Dorset village has been likened to a concentration camp.

The Gypsy Council claims that planned security measures are unacceptable and will deter travellers from using the site at Piddlehinton.

And questions have been raised over the way a decision to approve the site was reached.

Villagers reacted with anger when Dorset County Council’s planning committee granted permission for a temporary transit site at Piddlehinton for the next three summers.

The site is adjacent to a business park and residents say it will also have an adverse affect on the existing permanent travellers’ site in the village.

District councillor Jacqui Cuff said she was aware that the local parish council was looking to lodge a complaint with the county council after a chaotic meeting at County Hall to decide the application, and the authority has confirmed it is investigating the matter.

At one stage a proposal to refuse the scheme seemed to have been passed when two members supported it and only one refused, with the other committee members not voting.

The vote was later taken again and the motion failed by four votes against to two for and eventually the application was approved subject to a condition surrounding security on the site.

Cllr Cuff said she was ‘embarrassed’ by the way the meeting was handled.

She said: “The actual decision-making process and the way that was conducted was questionable.

“It certainly didn’t come across as professional as I would liked to have seen.”

Cllr Cuff said the residents had legitimate planning reasons for the scheme to fail, not least the impact on the neighbouring Enterprise Park and the adverse impact on residents of the village and the permanent site.

She also said the travellers using the temporary site would struggle to access facilities such as schools and shops.

With the search for permanent travellers sites continuing, Cllr Cuff said she believed Piddlehinton could be asked to shoulder the burden again in three years’ time as it was seen as the ‘point of least resistance’ compared to bigger populations in Weymouth and Poole where proposed sites have failed.

Jonathan Mair, Dorset County Council’s head of legal and democratic services, said: “We understand there were some concerns about how decisions were made at last week’s planning committee meeting, and we are investigating the matter.”

Concerns of the Gypsy Council

CONCERNS have been raised from the Gypsy Council over the stringent security measures that will be in force when the travellers site at Piddlehinton comes into use.

Joseph G Jones from the Gypsy Council likened the surveillance – with proposed 24-hour security and number plate recognition cameras at the entrance to the site – as like a ‘concentration camp’.

He said: “I just don’t know who would want to use it if they are saying they are going to use number plate recognition cameras on site – that means the police are effectively going to be running the site.”

Mr Jones added: “It sounds a bit racist really because it’s only gypsies and travellers it’s designed for and they are saying that it should have this in-built security.

“It’s a particularly unpleasant idea.”

Head of countryside and business development at Dorset County Council Dave Ayre stressed that the CCTV cameras were at the entrance to the neighbouring Piddlehinton Enterprise Park and were not trained on the travellers’ site.

He said: “It won’t just apply to the residents of the gypsy site, it’s for anybody who enters and exits the Enterprise Park so it will be all the businesses and their customers.”

Firms at the Enterprise Business Park said they were angered by the decision.

Graham McDonald and Roger Cole own Reprint which employs eight people.

Mr McDonald said: “We are all up in arms about it, we are all very annoyed. We do not think it is right that it has just been passed through. It just doesn’t feel right.”

Ian Ring, who owns the Blastech firm on the park, said: “I am against the site being set up unless it is really well policed and from what I understand, it won’t be.

“Most people on the business park are against it.

“I am the president of the rugby club and when we have had temporary travellers in the past, we have had instances of the club being broken into and fly tipping at the same time they are here.”

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10:20am Wed 14 May 14

BIGTONE says...

There is a lack of swimming pools,Sauna's,conven
ience store etc.
There is a lack of swimming pools,Sauna's,conven ience store etc. BIGTONE
  • Score: 11

10:28am Wed 14 May 14

BarrHumbug says...

Why should they be bothered by Numberplate recognition cameras? They are law abiding citizens aren't they? ;)
Why should they be bothered by Numberplate recognition cameras? They are law abiding citizens aren't they? ;) BarrHumbug
  • Score: 23

10:31am Wed 14 May 14

PUZZLED ONE says...

As I remember, concentration camps were designed to keep the occupants inside barbed wire (often electrified) fences.
I have seen no evidence that these sort of fences are planned for this site.
Perhaps there are reasons why any potential occupants of the site don't like the idea of their vehicle number plates being recorded and Joseph G Jones could tell us.
If a vehicle is legally on the road then there seems, to me, to be no reason for not having the registration number checked.
Lots of police vehicles are equipped with ANPR cameras and nobody complains (except those who are caught for having no MOT, insurance or current vehicle tax documents.
As I remember, concentration camps were designed to keep the occupants inside barbed wire (often electrified) fences. I have seen no evidence that these sort of fences are planned for this site. Perhaps there are reasons why any potential occupants of the site don't like the idea of their vehicle number plates being recorded and Joseph G Jones could tell us. If a vehicle is legally on the road then there seems, to me, to be no reason for not having the registration number checked. Lots of police vehicles are equipped with ANPR cameras and nobody complains (except those who are caught for having no MOT, insurance or current vehicle tax documents. PUZZLED ONE
  • Score: 16

10:42am Wed 14 May 14

Townee says...

Beggars can't be choosers, sorry travellers can be choosers. They are lucky to be offered a site to rest up on without charge. If they are complaining that it is not good enough then they should look at any site in Poole or Bournemouth that they illegally stop on at the mess they leave it in. Perhaps they are worried that they will be made the clean it up when they leave. They pay no tax or community charge so if they want to park up then they need to abide by the rules and if that is CCTV then they should suck it up and except it.
Beggars can't be choosers, sorry travellers can be choosers. They are lucky to be offered a site to rest up on without charge. If they are complaining that it is not good enough then they should look at any site in Poole or Bournemouth that they illegally stop on at the mess they leave it in. Perhaps they are worried that they will be made the clean it up when they leave. They pay no tax or community charge so if they want to park up then they need to abide by the rules and if that is CCTV then they should suck it up and except it. Townee
  • Score: 17

12:04pm Wed 14 May 14

justsayithowitis says...

Travellers will always complain about temporary sites as this is not what they want. They want to be able to pitch up wherever takes their fancy and do whatever they feel like doing
Travellers will always complain about temporary sites as this is not what they want. They want to be able to pitch up wherever takes their fancy and do whatever they feel like doing justsayithowitis
  • Score: 9

12:34pm Wed 14 May 14

RM says...

I'm just back home after camping on a paid for camping site. There were rules that all campers were expected to obey. For security reasons the entrance was locked after a certain time each evening & cars had to remain parked outside until they were opened again in the morning. That's how the cookie crumbles in the real world. Perhaps instead of complaining the travellers should be grateful that they have been offered a legal place to camp?
I'm just back home after camping on a paid for camping site. There were rules that all campers were expected to obey. For security reasons the entrance was locked after a certain time each evening & cars had to remain parked outside until they were opened again in the morning. That's how the cookie crumbles in the real world. Perhaps instead of complaining the travellers should be grateful that they have been offered a legal place to camp? RM
  • Score: 8

3:09pm Wed 14 May 14

Tictock says...

Don't like it - bog off!! Freeloading group of people.
Don't like it - bog off!! Freeloading group of people. Tictock
  • Score: 6

6:14pm Wed 14 May 14

Phixer says...

RM wrote:
I'm just back home after camping on a paid for camping site. There were rules that all campers were expected to obey. For security reasons the entrance was locked after a certain time each evening & cars had to remain parked outside until they were opened again in the morning. That's how the cookie crumbles in the real world. Perhaps instead of complaining the travellers should be grateful that they have been offered a legal place to camp?
travellers? - grateful? - taxpayer funded camping site? That's a whole bunch of oxymorons - and no prizes for guessing who are the morons!
[quote][p][bold]RM[/bold] wrote: I'm just back home after camping on a paid for camping site. There were rules that all campers were expected to obey. For security reasons the entrance was locked after a certain time each evening & cars had to remain parked outside until they were opened again in the morning. That's how the cookie crumbles in the real world. Perhaps instead of complaining the travellers should be grateful that they have been offered a legal place to camp?[/p][/quote]travellers? - grateful? - taxpayer funded camping site? That's a whole bunch of oxymorons - and no prizes for guessing who are the morons! Phixer
  • Score: 3

1:54am Thu 15 May 14

ldc says...

The tories of Poole and Bournemouth decided ages ago that the site would not be in either town and out in the sticks. I mean government tories I doubt any locals will change that.
The tories of Poole and Bournemouth decided ages ago that the site would not be in either town and out in the sticks. I mean government tories I doubt any locals will change that. ldc
  • Score: 1

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