Poole Harbour chiefs forging ahead with £11million investment in commercial port – despite stalled marina plans

Bournemouth Echo: FORGING AHEAD: Plans on display showing Poole Harbour Commissioners’ proposals FORGING AHEAD: Plans on display showing Poole Harbour Commissioners’ proposals

WITH plans for their proposed quay marina currently stalled, Poole Harbour Commissioners are forging ahead with an £11million investment in the commercial port.

A new deep water quay is top of the list for phased improvements to the port, which will protect existing jobs and create an additional 963 jobs for the region, generating an additional £23million a year for the Poole and Dorset economies.

“Crown Estates have made a decision not to approve the PHC or MDL scheme,” said Jim Stewart, chief executive of Poole Harbour Commissioners. “Effectively that scheme is dead in the water. We are continuing with the commercial port scheme.”

Presenting the plans to stakeholders that they have submitted to the Marine Management Organisation for a Poole Harbour Revision (Works) Order, commissioners say if approved, the six month project could be built next year.

“It’s very important for the port,” Mr Stewart. “It will enable us to create a new quay which will help us bring in bigger cruise ships to Poole. Sunseeker want to export their yachts from Poole.”

The luxury yacht company has already shipped out £80m worth of boats on a vessel that left Poole for Florida in March. “They want to bring in bigger ships and then they won’t have to send them to Southampton,” he said.

The aim is to dredge the commercial quays to 7.5 metres from the current 5.5m depth, making it the same as the main channel, which would also allow large cargo vessels to use the port.

While the quay marina scheme had proved controversial, he said: “We have had no objections at all through the last three years to the port development.”

Chairman Richard Lacey said: “A lot of people have expressed an interest in coming here and we need to provide better facilities.”

Fred Winwood, Hamworthy resident, former mayor and founder chairman of Residents Against Port Expansion (RAPE), formed to fight a previous scheme said after looking at the plans: “I am not going to have to resurrect RAPE.”

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9:07am Sun 4 May 14

sea poole says...

Fred Winwood -a voice from the past? Also same whinging from the past. Doesn't he realise that the current water depth won't allow tea clipper sailing ships...?
Fred Winwood -a voice from the past? Also same whinging from the past. Doesn't he realise that the current water depth won't allow tea clipper sailing ships...? sea poole
  • Score: 5

10:57am Sun 4 May 14

Red Leader 1 says...

Or maybe the headline should read "Poole Harbour Chiefs forging ahead with £11million investment in commercial port - due to stalled marina plans".

It is doubtful that this project could proceed if PHC had to organise £20M+ funding for the giant marina. But without the proposed commercial development, non-ferry shipping would gradually wither and die with the inevitable impact on jobs and the local economy.

There are plenty of marinas already in the harbour and privately funded ventures to run them. There is only one commercial port and that should continue to be PHC's number 1 priority.
Or maybe the headline should read "Poole Harbour Chiefs forging ahead with £11million investment in commercial port - due to stalled marina plans". It is doubtful that this project could proceed if PHC had to organise £20M+ funding for the giant marina. But without the proposed commercial development, non-ferry shipping would gradually wither and die with the inevitable impact on jobs and the local economy. There are plenty of marinas already in the harbour and privately funded ventures to run them. There is only one commercial port and that should continue to be PHC's number 1 priority. Red Leader 1
  • Score: 5

12:16pm Sun 4 May 14

ashleycross says...

Oh goody 1,000 more cars driving into Poole everyday for the new jobs. Presumably all the bus and cycle lanes will be closed to make way for them and the pavements will all have bikes allowed on them Brilliant way to turn the town into one big car park.
Make sure your asthma inhalers are in date for the extra pollution and book yourself in with the the hospital dieticians for obesity clinic, because you certainly won't be able to walk anywhere in Poole.
No new jobs or building should be allowed in Poole until you can walk and cycle safely into it and in it. Currently this is not possible which drives young fit people away and leaves the town dominated by older unfit people. God's waiting area unless something is done to bring the transport up to date and fit for young working people.
Oh goody 1,000 more cars driving into Poole everyday for the new jobs. Presumably all the bus and cycle lanes will be closed to make way for them and the pavements will all have bikes allowed on them Brilliant way to turn the town into one big car park. Make sure your asthma inhalers are in date for the extra pollution and book yourself in with the the hospital dieticians for obesity clinic, because you certainly won't be able to walk anywhere in Poole. No new jobs or building should be allowed in Poole until you can walk and cycle safely into it and in it. Currently this is not possible which drives young fit people away and leaves the town dominated by older unfit people. God's waiting area unless something is done to bring the transport up to date and fit for young working people. ashleycross
  • Score: -13

12:49pm Sun 4 May 14

sea poole says...

ashleycross -and here endeth today's sermon...
ashleycross -and here endeth today's sermon... sea poole
  • Score: -4

1:04pm Sun 4 May 14

willytee says...

As commented above, this is likely to cause problems with traffic. Could they not improve the rarely used rail link to the port? This, potentially, could take away a lot of the heavy traffic and allow port employees relatively easy access. However, this could then create parking issues elsewhere.....
As commented above, this is likely to cause problems with traffic. Could they not improve the rarely used rail link to the port? This, potentially, could take away a lot of the heavy traffic and allow port employees relatively easy access. However, this could then create parking issues elsewhere..... willytee
  • Score: 3

1:24pm Sun 4 May 14

PUZZLED ONE says...

Who is providing the money for this £11m 'investment?
Who is providing the money for this £11m 'investment? PUZZLED ONE
  • Score: 2

1:28pm Sun 4 May 14

billy bumble says...

Poole's ability to be a nice place to live and visit has been entirely dependent on its' narrow shipping channel and its' inability to dock large vessels

This will go well on the way to turning it into another Southampton

Crassness to the nth degree
Poole's ability to be a nice place to live and visit has been entirely dependent on its' narrow shipping channel and its' inability to dock large vessels This will go well on the way to turning it into another Southampton Crassness to the nth degree billy bumble
  • Score: -5

2:10pm Sun 4 May 14

ashleycross says...

sea poole wrote:
ashleycross -and here endeth today's sermon...
endeth, I don't think so
[quote][p][bold]sea poole[/bold] wrote: ashleycross -and here endeth today's sermon...[/p][/quote]endeth, I don't think so ashleycross
  • Score: 0

5:00pm Sun 4 May 14

Rednax says...

RAPE? What a disgusting acronym.
RAPE? What a disgusting acronym. Rednax
  • Score: 2

5:26pm Sun 4 May 14

alyce says...

Yes I agree, the roads in and around Poole are abysmal - took me 2 hours to get home from Salisbury on Friday on the A31 and bikers nights are another major delay for anyone living in Poole town.
Yes I agree, the roads in and around Poole are abysmal - took me 2 hours to get home from Salisbury on Friday on the A31 and bikers nights are another major delay for anyone living in Poole town. alyce
  • Score: -1

5:32pm Sun 4 May 14

Ebb Tide says...

sea poole wrote:
Fred Winwood -a voice from the past? Also same whinging from the past. Doesn't he realise that the current water depth won't allow tea clipper sailing ships...?
I suspect he does - judging from the report.
[quote][p][bold]sea poole[/bold] wrote: Fred Winwood -a voice from the past? Also same whinging from the past. Doesn't he realise that the current water depth won't allow tea clipper sailing ships...?[/p][/quote]I suspect he does - judging from the report. Ebb Tide
  • Score: 3

6:03pm Sun 4 May 14

Yankee1 says...

Shallow harbour depths; and extremely poor road communications. Rail is non-existent.

Most of the port has been taken over by Sunseeker.

The most viable use of Poole Harbour is pleasure yachts. Not industrial commerce.

Why not bow to the inevitable, and stop swimming upstream? Poole should be so busy as a pleasure yacht haven (for which nature has brilliantly designed it) to the point where 'traffic lights' will be needed at the ferry entrance.

Regarding Poole: don't think Immingham.

Think 'Fort Lauderdale UK'. That is where the dosh is.
Shallow harbour depths; and extremely poor road communications. Rail is non-existent. Most of the port has been taken over by Sunseeker. The most viable use of Poole Harbour is pleasure yachts. Not industrial commerce. Why not bow to the inevitable, and stop swimming upstream? Poole should be so busy as a pleasure yacht haven (for which nature has brilliantly designed it) to the point where 'traffic lights' will be needed at the ferry entrance. Regarding Poole: don't think Immingham. Think 'Fort Lauderdale UK'. That is where the dosh is. Yankee1
  • Score: 4

10:08pm Sun 4 May 14

Not A Local says...

Yankee1 wrote:
Shallow harbour depths; and extremely poor road communications. Rail is non-existent.

Most of the port has been taken over by Sunseeker.

The most viable use of Poole Harbour is pleasure yachts. Not industrial commerce.

Why not bow to the inevitable, and stop swimming upstream? Poole should be so busy as a pleasure yacht haven (for which nature has brilliantly designed it) to the point where 'traffic lights' will be needed at the ferry entrance.

Regarding Poole: don't think Immingham.

Think 'Fort Lauderdale UK'. That is where the dosh is.
Finally somebody gets it!

Pleasure boating is a massive employer and financial contributor to the area, and growth in it should be encouraged. But the usual old NIMBY attitude of those who think they can't afford to be on the water will get in the way of progress and stop those who want to enjoy the water bringing their money to the area to do so.
[quote][p][bold]Yankee1[/bold] wrote: Shallow harbour depths; and extremely poor road communications. Rail is non-existent. Most of the port has been taken over by Sunseeker. The most viable use of Poole Harbour is pleasure yachts. Not industrial commerce. Why not bow to the inevitable, and stop swimming upstream? Poole should be so busy as a pleasure yacht haven (for which nature has brilliantly designed it) to the point where 'traffic lights' will be needed at the ferry entrance. Regarding Poole: don't think Immingham. Think 'Fort Lauderdale UK'. That is where the dosh is.[/p][/quote]Finally somebody gets it! Pleasure boating is a massive employer and financial contributor to the area, and growth in it should be encouraged. But the usual old NIMBY attitude of those who think they can't afford to be on the water will get in the way of progress and stop those who want to enjoy the water bringing their money to the area to do so. Not A Local
  • Score: 1

10:28pm Sun 4 May 14

mooninpisces says...

Yankee1 wrote:
Shallow harbour depths; and extremely poor road communications. Rail is non-existent.

Most of the port has been taken over by Sunseeker.

The most viable use of Poole Harbour is pleasure yachts. Not industrial commerce.

Why not bow to the inevitable, and stop swimming upstream? Poole should be so busy as a pleasure yacht haven (for which nature has brilliantly designed it) to the point where 'traffic lights' will be needed at the ferry entrance.

Regarding Poole: don't think Immingham.

Think 'Fort Lauderdale UK'. That is where the dosh is.
Shipping out floating gin palaces to Fort Lauderdale, or becoming Fort Lauderdale UK.

Is that our only choice?
[quote][p][bold]Yankee1[/bold] wrote: Shallow harbour depths; and extremely poor road communications. Rail is non-existent. Most of the port has been taken over by Sunseeker. The most viable use of Poole Harbour is pleasure yachts. Not industrial commerce. Why not bow to the inevitable, and stop swimming upstream? Poole should be so busy as a pleasure yacht haven (for which nature has brilliantly designed it) to the point where 'traffic lights' will be needed at the ferry entrance. Regarding Poole: don't think Immingham. Think 'Fort Lauderdale UK'. That is where the dosh is.[/p][/quote]Shipping out floating gin palaces to Fort Lauderdale, or becoming Fort Lauderdale UK. Is that our only choice? mooninpisces
  • Score: -1

10:47am Mon 5 May 14

ashleycross says...

willytee wrote:
As commented above, this is likely to cause problems with traffic. Could they not improve the rarely used rail link to the port? This, potentially, could take away a lot of the heavy traffic and allow port employees relatively easy access. However, this could then create parking issues elsewhere.....
This would be great, and there's loads of government money available for this kind of project, just as there is for closing roads off for buses and bikes, buying electric buses, putting in tram lines etc. Sadly it will never reach Poole as we are too true blue, about the safest seat in the country, so no chance of any money being spent on Poole to try and sweeten us up in case some of us vote other than Tory. Basically Poole is treated by conservative central government as an old faithful wife who has let herself go and is being taken for granted by her husband.
[quote][p][bold]willytee[/bold] wrote: As commented above, this is likely to cause problems with traffic. Could they not improve the rarely used rail link to the port? This, potentially, could take away a lot of the heavy traffic and allow port employees relatively easy access. However, this could then create parking issues elsewhere.....[/p][/quote]This would be great, and there's loads of government money available for this kind of project, just as there is for closing roads off for buses and bikes, buying electric buses, putting in tram lines etc. Sadly it will never reach Poole as we are too true blue, about the safest seat in the country, so no chance of any money being spent on Poole to try and sweeten us up in case some of us vote other than Tory. Basically Poole is treated by conservative central government as an old faithful wife who has let herself go and is being taken for granted by her husband. ashleycross
  • Score: -1

11:14am Mon 5 May 14

Ebb Tide says...

ashleycross wrote:
willytee wrote:
As commented above, this is likely to cause problems with traffic. Could they not improve the rarely used rail link to the port? This, potentially, could take away a lot of the heavy traffic and allow port employees relatively easy access. However, this could then create parking issues elsewhere.....
This would be great, and there's loads of government money available for this kind of project, just as there is for closing roads off for buses and bikes, buying electric buses, putting in tram lines etc. Sadly it will never reach Poole as we are too true blue, about the safest seat in the country, so no chance of any money being spent on Poole to try and sweeten us up in case some of us vote other than Tory. Basically Poole is treated by conservative central government as an old faithful wife who has let herself go and is being taken for granted by her husband.
Bring on coalitions then !!
[quote][p][bold]ashleycross[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]willytee[/bold] wrote: As commented above, this is likely to cause problems with traffic. Could they not improve the rarely used rail link to the port? This, potentially, could take away a lot of the heavy traffic and allow port employees relatively easy access. However, this could then create parking issues elsewhere.....[/p][/quote]This would be great, and there's loads of government money available for this kind of project, just as there is for closing roads off for buses and bikes, buying electric buses, putting in tram lines etc. Sadly it will never reach Poole as we are too true blue, about the safest seat in the country, so no chance of any money being spent on Poole to try and sweeten us up in case some of us vote other than Tory. Basically Poole is treated by conservative central government as an old faithful wife who has let herself go and is being taken for granted by her husband.[/p][/quote]Bring on coalitions then !! Ebb Tide
  • Score: 0

2:09pm Mon 5 May 14

skydriver says...

mooninpisces wrote:
Yankee1 wrote:
Shallow harbour depths; and extremely poor road communications. Rail is non-existent.

Most of the port has been taken over by Sunseeker.

The most viable use of Poole Harbour is pleasure yachts. Not industrial commerce.

Why not bow to the inevitable, and stop swimming upstream? Poole should be so busy as a pleasure yacht haven (for which nature has brilliantly designed it) to the point where 'traffic lights' will be needed at the ferry entrance.

Regarding Poole: don't think Immingham.

Think 'Fort Lauderdale UK'. That is where the dosh is.
Shipping out floating gin palaces to Fort Lauderdale, or becoming Fort Lauderdale UK.

Is that our only choice?
It brings work to the area, don't just think because you can't afford to own a boat it not a good idea, please think before you comment .
[quote][p][bold]mooninpisces[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yankee1[/bold] wrote: Shallow harbour depths; and extremely poor road communications. Rail is non-existent. Most of the port has been taken over by Sunseeker. The most viable use of Poole Harbour is pleasure yachts. Not industrial commerce. Why not bow to the inevitable, and stop swimming upstream? Poole should be so busy as a pleasure yacht haven (for which nature has brilliantly designed it) to the point where 'traffic lights' will be needed at the ferry entrance. Regarding Poole: don't think Immingham. Think 'Fort Lauderdale UK'. That is where the dosh is.[/p][/quote]Shipping out floating gin palaces to Fort Lauderdale, or becoming Fort Lauderdale UK. Is that our only choice?[/p][/quote]It brings work to the area, don't just think because you can't afford to own a boat it not a good idea, please think before you comment . skydriver
  • Score: 2

5:50pm Mon 5 May 14

cromwell9 says...

skydriver wrote:
mooninpisces wrote:
Yankee1 wrote:
Shallow harbour depths; and extremely poor road communications. Rail is non-existent.

Most of the port has been taken over by Sunseeker.

The most viable use of Poole Harbour is pleasure yachts. Not industrial commerce.

Why not bow to the inevitable, and stop swimming upstream? Poole should be so busy as a pleasure yacht haven (for which nature has brilliantly designed it) to the point where 'traffic lights' will be needed at the ferry entrance.

Regarding Poole: don't think Immingham.

Think 'Fort Lauderdale UK'. That is where the dosh is.
Shipping out floating gin palaces to Fort Lauderdale, or becoming Fort Lauderdale UK.

Is that our only choice?
It brings work to the area, don't just think because you can't afford to own a boat it not a good idea, please think before you comment .
Well your doom and gloom predictions ,were way off the mark.
I think you must live in the Southampton area with a comment like that.
We must exspand the Poole port to survive,
Sunseeker must be able to exsport from Poole ,or they just might move to Portsmouth ,or Southampton,.
Also lets get some cruise liners in here ,That will be a huge boost for the surounding area,
As regards no rail link.The rail link to the port is still there. ( UK security interests ,It will always be maintained,for use ,as and when required.
The PHC have plans to use the line,and reopen it into the Port Area,
So far as gloom and doom .Lets celebrate the news 1000 new jobs,more trade for the town ,Fantastic.
[quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mooninpisces[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yankee1[/bold] wrote: Shallow harbour depths; and extremely poor road communications. Rail is non-existent. Most of the port has been taken over by Sunseeker. The most viable use of Poole Harbour is pleasure yachts. Not industrial commerce. Why not bow to the inevitable, and stop swimming upstream? Poole should be so busy as a pleasure yacht haven (for which nature has brilliantly designed it) to the point where 'traffic lights' will be needed at the ferry entrance. Regarding Poole: don't think Immingham. Think 'Fort Lauderdale UK'. That is where the dosh is.[/p][/quote]Shipping out floating gin palaces to Fort Lauderdale, or becoming Fort Lauderdale UK. Is that our only choice?[/p][/quote]It brings work to the area, don't just think because you can't afford to own a boat it not a good idea, please think before you comment .[/p][/quote]Well your doom and gloom predictions ,were way off the mark. I think you must live in the Southampton area with a comment like that. We must exspand the Poole port to survive, Sunseeker must be able to exsport from Poole ,or they just might move to Portsmouth ,or Southampton,. Also lets get some cruise liners in here ,That will be a huge boost for the surounding area, As regards no rail link.The rail link to the port is still there. ( UK security interests ,It will always be maintained,for use ,as and when required. The PHC have plans to use the line,and reopen it into the Port Area, So far as gloom and doom .Lets celebrate the news 1000 new jobs,more trade for the town ,Fantastic. cromwell9
  • Score: 1

6:00pm Mon 5 May 14

Yankee1 says...

mooninpisces wrote:
Yankee1 wrote:
Shallow harbour depths; and extremely poor road communications. Rail is non-existent.

Most of the port has been taken over by Sunseeker.

The most viable use of Poole Harbour is pleasure yachts. Not industrial commerce.

Why not bow to the inevitable, and stop swimming upstream? Poole should be so busy as a pleasure yacht haven (for which nature has brilliantly designed it) to the point where 'traffic lights' will be needed at the ferry entrance.

Regarding Poole: don't think Immingham.

Think 'Fort Lauderdale UK'. That is where the dosh is.
Shipping out floating gin palaces to Fort Lauderdale, or becoming Fort Lauderdale UK.

Is that our only choice?
Pretty much.

Or you can remain a mish mash of nothing of any note. Which is the reality at present.

Why not a 'council yacht haven' for Poole rate payers, at a fair price? Locals know that Davis' has always been the fairest and most reasonable place to keep a yacht.

Let the zillionnaires have their 'bespoke' yacht haven. And charge accordingly.
[quote][p][bold]mooninpisces[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yankee1[/bold] wrote: Shallow harbour depths; and extremely poor road communications. Rail is non-existent. Most of the port has been taken over by Sunseeker. The most viable use of Poole Harbour is pleasure yachts. Not industrial commerce. Why not bow to the inevitable, and stop swimming upstream? Poole should be so busy as a pleasure yacht haven (for which nature has brilliantly designed it) to the point where 'traffic lights' will be needed at the ferry entrance. Regarding Poole: don't think Immingham. Think 'Fort Lauderdale UK'. That is where the dosh is.[/p][/quote]Shipping out floating gin palaces to Fort Lauderdale, or becoming Fort Lauderdale UK. Is that our only choice?[/p][/quote]Pretty much. Or you can remain a mish mash of nothing of any note. Which is the reality at present. Why not a 'council yacht haven' for Poole rate payers, at a fair price? Locals know that Davis' has always been the fairest and most reasonable place to keep a yacht. Let the zillionnaires have their 'bespoke' yacht haven. And charge accordingly. Yankee1
  • Score: 0

6:03pm Mon 5 May 14

Yankee1 says...

cromwell9 wrote:
skydriver wrote:
mooninpisces wrote:
Yankee1 wrote:
Shallow harbour depths; and extremely poor road communications. Rail is non-existent.

Most of the port has been taken over by Sunseeker.

The most viable use of Poole Harbour is pleasure yachts. Not industrial commerce.

Why not bow to the inevitable, and stop swimming upstream? Poole should be so busy as a pleasure yacht haven (for which nature has brilliantly designed it) to the point where 'traffic lights' will be needed at the ferry entrance.

Regarding Poole: don't think Immingham.

Think 'Fort Lauderdale UK'. That is where the dosh is.
Shipping out floating gin palaces to Fort Lauderdale, or becoming Fort Lauderdale UK.

Is that our only choice?
It brings work to the area, don't just think because you can't afford to own a boat it not a good idea, please think before you comment .
Well your doom and gloom predictions ,were way off the mark.
I think you must live in the Southampton area with a comment like that.
We must exspand the Poole port to survive,
Sunseeker must be able to exsport from Poole ,or they just might move to Portsmouth ,or Southampton,.
Also lets get some cruise liners in here ,That will be a huge boost for the surounding area,
As regards no rail link.The rail link to the port is still there. ( UK security interests ,It will always be maintained,for use ,as and when required.
The PHC have plans to use the line,and reopen it into the Port Area,
So far as gloom and doom .Lets celebrate the news 1000 new jobs,more trade for the town ,Fantastic.
Have you studied the depth required by cruise liners? They need Southampton.

One or two coastal cruise ships (Hebridean) hardly make a difference, though they are always welcome once or twice a year.
[quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mooninpisces[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yankee1[/bold] wrote: Shallow harbour depths; and extremely poor road communications. Rail is non-existent. Most of the port has been taken over by Sunseeker. The most viable use of Poole Harbour is pleasure yachts. Not industrial commerce. Why not bow to the inevitable, and stop swimming upstream? Poole should be so busy as a pleasure yacht haven (for which nature has brilliantly designed it) to the point where 'traffic lights' will be needed at the ferry entrance. Regarding Poole: don't think Immingham. Think 'Fort Lauderdale UK'. That is where the dosh is.[/p][/quote]Shipping out floating gin palaces to Fort Lauderdale, or becoming Fort Lauderdale UK. Is that our only choice?[/p][/quote]It brings work to the area, don't just think because you can't afford to own a boat it not a good idea, please think before you comment .[/p][/quote]Well your doom and gloom predictions ,were way off the mark. I think you must live in the Southampton area with a comment like that. We must exspand the Poole port to survive, Sunseeker must be able to exsport from Poole ,or they just might move to Portsmouth ,or Southampton,. Also lets get some cruise liners in here ,That will be a huge boost for the surounding area, As regards no rail link.The rail link to the port is still there. ( UK security interests ,It will always be maintained,for use ,as and when required. The PHC have plans to use the line,and reopen it into the Port Area, So far as gloom and doom .Lets celebrate the news 1000 new jobs,more trade for the town ,Fantastic.[/p][/quote]Have you studied the depth required by cruise liners? They need Southampton. One or two coastal cruise ships (Hebridean) hardly make a difference, though they are always welcome once or twice a year. Yankee1
  • Score: 0

9:20pm Mon 5 May 14

fairandsquared says...

Who is this twit Winwood who calls an organisation ( if it's a valid one, in the first place) RAPE? Clearly, with a name like that he is only going to attract real rape victims who have suffered real trauma, instead of those he wants to attract (which are nimby's who want to see Poole stuck in the last century and never grow and develop). Go Poole Harbour Commissioners, and let's not be put off by the Winwoods of the world - who can stick to their rape problems! We want a town with a future!
Who is this twit Winwood who calls an organisation ( if it's a valid one, in the first place) RAPE? Clearly, with a name like that he is only going to attract real rape victims who have suffered real trauma, instead of those he wants to attract (which are nimby's who want to see Poole stuck in the last century and never grow and develop). Go Poole Harbour Commissioners, and let's not be put off by the Winwoods of the world - who can stick to their rape problems! We want a town with a future! fairandsquared
  • Score: 2

9:45am Tue 6 May 14

Ebb Tide says...

fairandsquared wrote:
Who is this twit Winwood who calls an organisation ( if it's a valid one, in the first place) RAPE? Clearly, with a name like that he is only going to attract real rape victims who have suffered real trauma, instead of those he wants to attract (which are nimby's who want to see Poole stuck in the last century and never grow and develop). Go Poole Harbour Commissioners, and let's not be put off by the Winwoods of the world - who can stick to their rape problems! We want a town with a future!
Don't conflate the past with the present. There was a time when thousands in Poole were concerned about possible over-exploitation of our resources by the harbour commissioners. That was then this is now !
[quote][p][bold]fairandsquared[/bold] wrote: Who is this twit Winwood who calls an organisation ( if it's a valid one, in the first place) RAPE? Clearly, with a name like that he is only going to attract real rape victims who have suffered real trauma, instead of those he wants to attract (which are nimby's who want to see Poole stuck in the last century and never grow and develop). Go Poole Harbour Commissioners, and let's not be put off by the Winwoods of the world - who can stick to their rape problems! We want a town with a future![/p][/quote]Don't conflate the past with the present. There was a time when thousands in Poole were concerned about possible over-exploitation of our resources by the harbour commissioners. That was then this is now ! Ebb Tide
  • Score: 0

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