We’ll do all we can to deal with unauthorised traveller camps, say Bournemouth council

INVASION: Aerial photo of travellers at Kings Park, Bournemouth. Inset, Cllr John Beesley

INVASION: Aerial photo of travellers at Kings Park, Bournemouth. Inset, Cllr John Beesley

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BOURNEMOUTH council has pledged to act “swiftly” to prevent car parks and open spaces being used as unauthorised gypsy and traveller camps over the summer months.

John Beesley, leader of the council, has assured residents the authority is doing “absolutely everything it can” to minimise disruption to the local community in anticipation of the arrival of members of the gypsy and traveller communities.

Furthermore, Cllr Beesley said where necessary the council will act quickly to take legal action in order to evict unauthorised camps.

“The record in Bournemouth has been very robust in making sure that we protect our car parks and open spaces and we have invested in measures to prevent unauthorised encampments wherever possible,” Cllr Beesley said.

Cllr Beesley said Bournemouth Council has a range of measures in place to address potential problems.

He said: “Residents need to be reassured that Bournemouth council is doing absolutely everything it can to deal with these problems successfully so that the public are inconvenienced as little as possible.”

Earlier this week the Echo revealed how Poole is going to spend £231,000 beefing up security at vulnerable sites, which have been targeted by travellers in previous years.

The money is to be spent at Whitecliff, Baiter, Verity Crescent, Broadstone Recreation Ground, Haskells Recreation Ground and Branksome Recreation Ground providing measures such as mounds, hedges, posts, rocks and height restrictions.

Council leader, Cllr Elaine Atkinson said they would be providing what measures they could, short of locking down the whole town.

“Take Whitecliff – we cannot lock it down and make it inaccessible because the air ambulance lands there, the ambulances need to gain access.

“Likewise for a lot of our open spaces, but that is not to say we won’t be target hardening sensitive sites. We were already doing that anyway as part of our plans.”

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5:41am Fri 2 May 14

Lord Parkstone says...

Height restrictions don't work as the travellers will just cut them down to sell as scrap. Hedges won't stop them either as they just drive through.
The only time the council moves swiftly is when the travellers pitch up on their doorstep or that of a more affluent area if its anyone else they have to put up with them .
Height restrictions don't work as the travellers will just cut them down to sell as scrap. Hedges won't stop them either as they just drive through. The only time the council moves swiftly is when the travellers pitch up on their doorstep or that of a more affluent area if its anyone else they have to put up with them . Lord Parkstone
  • Score: 20

8:03am Fri 2 May 14

RM says...

We need CCTV at all vulnerable sites so if the travellers do damage fences etc they are caught on camera. Oh, and we also need a police force who will actually do their job & arrest travellers in the same way they arrest residents.
We need CCTV at all vulnerable sites so if the travellers do damage fences etc they are caught on camera. Oh, and we also need a police force who will actually do their job & arrest travellers in the same way they arrest residents. RM
  • Score: 32

8:38am Fri 2 May 14

itsneverblackorwhite says...

here we go again! The amount of money that has already been spent on prevention and clear-ups could easily have paid for a transit camp that would legally stop them for camping elsewhere!
here we go again! The amount of money that has already been spent on prevention and clear-ups could easily have paid for a transit camp that would legally stop them for camping elsewhere! itsneverblackorwhite
  • Score: -13

8:40am Fri 2 May 14

moleman says...

I note that Bournemouth Council are saying that they will act swiftly to prevent unauthorised gypsy camps and act quickly to take legal action. It's a shame that Poole don't seem to be able to get their act together and the feeble response from Councillor Atkinson is to say that they will do what they can........ What exactly is that?
I note that Bournemouth Council are saying that they will act swiftly to prevent unauthorised gypsy camps and act quickly to take legal action. It's a shame that Poole don't seem to be able to get their act together and the feeble response from Councillor Atkinson is to say that they will do what they can........ What exactly is that? moleman
  • Score: 9

9:01am Fri 2 May 14

Townee says...

You will never stop them, if they want to get into somewhere they will by fair or fowl means. Even if we have a transit camp, it will not be big enough to cope with all the travellers just look at the photo above at kings park.
The law needs changing so they can be moved as soon as they show up, no going to court just turn up with tow trucks.
You will never stop them, if they want to get into somewhere they will by fair or fowl means. Even if we have a transit camp, it will not be big enough to cope with all the travellers just look at the photo above at kings park. The law needs changing so they can be moved as soon as they show up, no going to court just turn up with tow trucks. Townee
  • Score: 22

9:05am Fri 2 May 14

Baysider says...

moleman wrote:
I note that Bournemouth Council are saying that they will act swiftly to prevent unauthorised gypsy camps and act quickly to take legal action. It's a shame that Poole don't seem to be able to get their act together and the feeble response from Councillor Atkinson is to say that they will do what they can........ What exactly is that?
The truth?
[quote][p][bold]moleman[/bold] wrote: I note that Bournemouth Council are saying that they will act swiftly to prevent unauthorised gypsy camps and act quickly to take legal action. It's a shame that Poole don't seem to be able to get their act together and the feeble response from Councillor Atkinson is to say that they will do what they can........ What exactly is that?[/p][/quote]The truth? Baysider
  • Score: 5

9:20am Fri 2 May 14

High Treason says...

Thanks to the EU they have rights which we do not have. Anyone can claim to be a gypsy/ traveller and ride rough over the rest of the law abiding. Whilst the 3 main parties get votes it will never change. Your choice so stop moaning because nothing will change whilst we are controlled by the EU. I can guarantee that.
Thanks to the EU they have rights which we do not have. Anyone can claim to be a gypsy/ traveller and ride rough over the rest of the law abiding. Whilst the 3 main parties get votes it will never change. Your choice so stop moaning because nothing will change whilst we are controlled by the EU. I can guarantee that. High Treason
  • Score: 10

10:13am Fri 2 May 14

Jo__Go says...

Baysider wrote:
moleman wrote:
I note that Bournemouth Council are saying that they will act swiftly to prevent unauthorised gypsy camps and act quickly to take legal action. It's a shame that Poole don't seem to be able to get their act together and the feeble response from Councillor Atkinson is to say that they will do what they can........ What exactly is that?
The truth?
Unlikely, on previous performance...
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]moleman[/bold] wrote: I note that Bournemouth Council are saying that they will act swiftly to prevent unauthorised gypsy camps and act quickly to take legal action. It's a shame that Poole don't seem to be able to get their act together and the feeble response from Councillor Atkinson is to say that they will do what they can........ What exactly is that?[/p][/quote]The truth?[/p][/quote]Unlikely, on previous performance... Jo__Go
  • Score: 2

10:13am Fri 2 May 14

BIGTONE says...

itsneverblackorwhite wrote:
here we go again! The amount of money that has already been spent on prevention and clear-ups could easily have paid for a transit camp that would legally stop them for camping elsewhere!
It won't make any difference building a transit camp,especially a tiny one. The number of "travellers" will outstrip the spaces that will be available. Those that can't get into a transit camp can't be moved on once it's full so nothing changes.
In reality there would need to be 100 pitches to cover demand.
Where can you find land for 100 pitches?
[quote][p][bold]itsneverblackorwhite[/bold] wrote: here we go again! The amount of money that has already been spent on prevention and clear-ups could easily have paid for a transit camp that would legally stop them for camping elsewhere![/p][/quote]It won't make any difference building a transit camp,especially a tiny one. The number of "travellers" will outstrip the spaces that will be available. Those that can't get into a transit camp can't be moved on once it's full so nothing changes. In reality there would need to be 100 pitches to cover demand. Where can you find land for 100 pitches? BIGTONE
  • Score: 10

11:21am Fri 2 May 14

Tony Trent says...

High Treason wrote:
Thanks to the EU they have rights which we do not have. Anyone can claim to be a gypsy/ traveller and ride rough over the rest of the law abiding. Whilst the 3 main parties get votes it will never change. Your choice so stop moaning because nothing will change whilst we are controlled by the EU. I can guarantee that.
Travellers rights have nothing to do with the EU. They are long standing (pre EU, pre 3 main parties) rights in British law (maybe a local academic can do some research on this). Locally Travellers claim rights given to them by the Wimborne estate. The inputs on this forum are high on emotion, high on vitriol, but low on facts. A solution that works in the long term, and has minimal cost to local taxpayers, has to be found based on facts. I am sure that will win me a lot of thumbs down from those who prefer to find scapegoats, or have a political axe to grind.
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Thanks to the EU they have rights which we do not have. Anyone can claim to be a gypsy/ traveller and ride rough over the rest of the law abiding. Whilst the 3 main parties get votes it will never change. Your choice so stop moaning because nothing will change whilst we are controlled by the EU. I can guarantee that.[/p][/quote]Travellers rights have nothing to do with the EU. They are long standing (pre EU, pre 3 main parties) rights in British law (maybe a local academic can do some research on this). Locally Travellers claim rights given to them by the Wimborne estate. The inputs on this forum are high on emotion, high on vitriol, but low on facts. A solution that works in the long term, and has minimal cost to local taxpayers, has to be found based on facts. I am sure that will win me a lot of thumbs down from those who prefer to find scapegoats, or have a political axe to grind. Tony Trent
  • Score: -4

11:30am Fri 2 May 14

Tony Trent says...

itsneverblackorwhite wrote:
here we go again! The amount of money that has already been spent on prevention and clear-ups could easily have paid for a transit camp that would legally stop them for camping elsewhere!
Lots of thumbs down for this input despite the fact that it is what we are all being advised we need.

Congratulations on picking a handle that sums up so many issues that hit the headlines. It seems that too many people live in a simplistic world where things are black or white, and end up being conned by politicians and others that claim they have the easy painless answer, or claim it's all the fault of x or y.
[quote][p][bold]itsneverblackorwhite[/bold] wrote: here we go again! The amount of money that has already been spent on prevention and clear-ups could easily have paid for a transit camp that would legally stop them for camping elsewhere![/p][/quote]Lots of thumbs down for this input despite the fact that it is what we are all being advised we need. Congratulations on picking a handle that sums up so many issues that hit the headlines. It seems that too many people live in a simplistic world where things are black or white, and end up being conned by politicians and others that claim they have the easy painless answer, or claim it's all the fault of x or y. Tony Trent
  • Score: -8

11:54am Fri 2 May 14

Hessenford says...

Large tow trucks with hooks and chains and bulldozers, you cant get more swiftly than that, no court costs and no dilly dallying about job done.
Large tow trucks with hooks and chains and bulldozers, you cant get more swiftly than that, no court costs and no dilly dallying about job done. Hessenford
  • Score: 8

12:04pm Fri 2 May 14

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

I would like to quote a great line out of the movie 'Snatch' relating to a certain young mans feelings towards our travelling cousins but alas - it would only get censored by the traveller-friendly Echo.
I would like to quote a great line out of the movie 'Snatch' relating to a certain young mans feelings towards our travelling cousins but alas - it would only get censored by the traveller-friendly Echo. Letcommonsenseprevail
  • Score: 3

1:43pm Fri 2 May 14

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

Tony Trent wrote:
High Treason wrote:
Thanks to the EU they have rights which we do not have. Anyone can claim to be a gypsy/ traveller and ride rough over the rest of the law abiding. Whilst the 3 main parties get votes it will never change. Your choice so stop moaning because nothing will change whilst we are controlled by the EU. I can guarantee that.
Travellers rights have nothing to do with the EU. They are long standing (pre EU, pre 3 main parties) rights in British law (maybe a local academic can do some research on this). Locally Travellers claim rights given to them by the Wimborne estate. The inputs on this forum are high on emotion, high on vitriol, but low on facts. A solution that works in the long term, and has minimal cost to local taxpayers, has to be found based on facts. I am sure that will win me a lot of thumbs down from those who prefer to find scapegoats, or have a political axe to grind.
'Travellers rights have nothing to do with the EU' - really? I think you'll find they do! Read the appropriate legislation before making such incorrect comments!
[quote][p][bold]Tony Trent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Thanks to the EU they have rights which we do not have. Anyone can claim to be a gypsy/ traveller and ride rough over the rest of the law abiding. Whilst the 3 main parties get votes it will never change. Your choice so stop moaning because nothing will change whilst we are controlled by the EU. I can guarantee that.[/p][/quote]Travellers rights have nothing to do with the EU. They are long standing (pre EU, pre 3 main parties) rights in British law (maybe a local academic can do some research on this). Locally Travellers claim rights given to them by the Wimborne estate. The inputs on this forum are high on emotion, high on vitriol, but low on facts. A solution that works in the long term, and has minimal cost to local taxpayers, has to be found based on facts. I am sure that will win me a lot of thumbs down from those who prefer to find scapegoats, or have a political axe to grind.[/p][/quote]'Travellers rights have nothing to do with the EU' - really? I think you'll find they do! Read the appropriate legislation before making such incorrect comments! Letcommonsenseprevail
  • Score: 4

1:43pm Fri 2 May 14

Carolyn43 says...

If that photo is typical, what on earth did Poole council think it was going to solve with two sites totalling 16 pitches? That photo just shows what a complete waste of council tax payers money those sites would have been.
If that photo is typical, what on earth did Poole council think it was going to solve with two sites totalling 16 pitches? That photo just shows what a complete waste of council tax payers money those sites would have been. Carolyn43
  • Score: 8

2:27pm Fri 2 May 14

Baysider says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
If that photo is typical, what on earth did Poole council think it was going to solve with two sites totalling 16 pitches? That photo just shows what a complete waste of council tax payers money those sites would have been.
Well it's not typical is it? Most of them seem to be about 6-10 ish it seems to me based on the stories on here over the years.

...but you knew that anyway, you just wanted to make the same point you do over and over and over.
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: If that photo is typical, what on earth did Poole council think it was going to solve with two sites totalling 16 pitches? That photo just shows what a complete waste of council tax payers money those sites would have been.[/p][/quote]Well it's not typical is it? Most of them seem to be about 6-10 ish it seems to me based on the stories on here over the years. ...but you knew that anyway, you just wanted to make the same point you do over and over and over. Baysider
  • Score: -5

7:13pm Fri 2 May 14

Carolyn43 says...

Baysider wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
If that photo is typical, what on earth did Poole council think it was going to solve with two sites totalling 16 pitches? That photo just shows what a complete waste of council tax payers money those sites would have been.
Well it's not typical is it? Most of them seem to be about 6-10 ish it seems to me based on the stories on here over the years.

...but you knew that anyway, you just wanted to make the same point you do over and over and over.
No, I didn't know that. I haven't actually seen a traveller encampment. I only know what I've read on here. For all I know there could be 4 caravans or 400. The photo above showed, 70, 80, 90? and is supposed be a genuine encampment.
......
As for making the same point over and over and over, it has to be done because some of you still haven't accepted the sensible reasons why the two sites were rejected by the PLANNING COMMITTEE, but still hang on to your prejudices in thinking incorrectly that the poor people of Creekmoor actually had some influence on the council's decision. They didn't because Poole council doesn't listen to what the residents want.
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: If that photo is typical, what on earth did Poole council think it was going to solve with two sites totalling 16 pitches? That photo just shows what a complete waste of council tax payers money those sites would have been.[/p][/quote]Well it's not typical is it? Most of them seem to be about 6-10 ish it seems to me based on the stories on here over the years. ...but you knew that anyway, you just wanted to make the same point you do over and over and over.[/p][/quote]No, I didn't know that. I haven't actually seen a traveller encampment. I only know what I've read on here. For all I know there could be 4 caravans or 400. The photo above showed, 70, 80, 90? and is supposed be a genuine encampment. ...... As for making the same point over and over and over, it has to be done because some of you still haven't accepted the sensible reasons why the two sites were rejected by the PLANNING COMMITTEE, but still hang on to your prejudices in thinking incorrectly that the poor people of Creekmoor actually had some influence on the council's decision. They didn't because Poole council doesn't listen to what the residents want. Carolyn43
  • Score: 7

8:31pm Fri 2 May 14

Bob49 says...

Letcommonsenseprevai
l
wrote:
Tony Trent wrote:
High Treason wrote:
Thanks to the EU they have rights which we do not have. Anyone can claim to be a gypsy/ traveller and ride rough over the rest of the law abiding. Whilst the 3 main parties get votes it will never change. Your choice so stop moaning because nothing will change whilst we are controlled by the EU. I can guarantee that.
Travellers rights have nothing to do with the EU. They are long standing (pre EU, pre 3 main parties) rights in British law (maybe a local academic can do some research on this). Locally Travellers claim rights given to them by the Wimborne estate. The inputs on this forum are high on emotion, high on vitriol, but low on facts. A solution that works in the long term, and has minimal cost to local taxpayers, has to be found based on facts. I am sure that will win me a lot of thumbs down from those who prefer to find scapegoats, or have a political axe to grind.
'Travellers rights have nothing to do with the EU' - really? I think you'll find they do! Read the appropriate legislation before making such incorrect comments!
Do you actually know the difference between the EU and the European Court of Human Rights ?

Has anyone ever explained to you about the ruling in an ENGLISH COURT in 2000 that ruled that Travellers were a different ethnic group ?

I suspect that the answer is NO to both questions and you and the rest of the 'political correctness gone mad' brigade' will continue to spout this ill informed guff, and in so doing serve the travellers well by distorting the argument.
[quote][p][bold]Letcommonsenseprevai l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tony Trent[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Thanks to the EU they have rights which we do not have. Anyone can claim to be a gypsy/ traveller and ride rough over the rest of the law abiding. Whilst the 3 main parties get votes it will never change. Your choice so stop moaning because nothing will change whilst we are controlled by the EU. I can guarantee that.[/p][/quote]Travellers rights have nothing to do with the EU. They are long standing (pre EU, pre 3 main parties) rights in British law (maybe a local academic can do some research on this). Locally Travellers claim rights given to them by the Wimborne estate. The inputs on this forum are high on emotion, high on vitriol, but low on facts. A solution that works in the long term, and has minimal cost to local taxpayers, has to be found based on facts. I am sure that will win me a lot of thumbs down from those who prefer to find scapegoats, or have a political axe to grind.[/p][/quote]'Travellers rights have nothing to do with the EU' - really? I think you'll find they do! Read the appropriate legislation before making such incorrect comments![/p][/quote]Do you actually know the difference between the EU and the European Court of Human Rights ? Has anyone ever explained to you about the ruling in an ENGLISH COURT in 2000 that ruled that Travellers were a different ethnic group ? I suspect that the answer is NO to both questions and you and the rest of the 'political correctness gone mad' brigade' will continue to spout this ill informed guff, and in so doing serve the travellers well by distorting the argument. Bob49
  • Score: 3

6:18pm Sat 3 May 14

Yankee1 says...

Here is an idea.

The next incursion of 'travelers' into a public site, invite the Tank Museum to hold one of it popular 'Tanks In Action' Displays. See how long a 'travelers' caravan holds up against a Tiger tank.

The Public will be delighted.
Here is an idea. The next incursion of 'travelers' into a public site, invite the Tank Museum to hold one of it popular 'Tanks In Action' Displays. See how long a 'travelers' caravan holds up against a Tiger tank. The Public will be delighted. Yankee1
  • Score: 2

5:08pm Wed 7 May 14

Lavengro says...

itsneverblackorwhite wrote:
here we go again! The amount of money that has already been spent on prevention and clear-ups could easily have paid for a transit camp that would legally stop them for camping elsewhere!
Exactly. If the money was spent on providing what the council is obligated to do in the first place all the Nigel Farage wannbees frothing at the mouth could all calm down!!
[quote][p][bold]itsneverblackorwhite[/bold] wrote: here we go again! The amount of money that has already been spent on prevention and clear-ups could easily have paid for a transit camp that would legally stop them for camping elsewhere![/p][/quote]Exactly. If the money was spent on providing what the council is obligated to do in the first place all the Nigel Farage wannbees frothing at the mouth could all calm down!! Lavengro
  • Score: 0

5:09pm Wed 7 May 14

Lavengro says...

itsneverblackorwhite wrote:
here we go again! The amount of money that has already been spent on prevention and clear-ups could easily have paid for a transit camp that would legally stop them for camping elsewhere!
Exactly. If the money was spent on providing what the council is obligated to do in the first place all the Nigel Farage wannbees frothing at the mouth could all calm down
[quote][p][bold]itsneverblackorwhite[/bold] wrote: here we go again! The amount of money that has already been spent on prevention and clear-ups could easily have paid for a transit camp that would legally stop them for camping elsewhere![/p][/quote]Exactly. If the money was spent on providing what the council is obligated to do in the first place all the Nigel Farage wannbees frothing at the mouth could all calm down Lavengro
  • Score: 0

5:32pm Wed 7 May 14

Jo__Go says...

Lavengro wrote:
itsneverblackorwhite wrote:
here we go again! The amount of money that has already been spent on prevention and clear-ups could easily have paid for a transit camp that would legally stop them for camping elsewhere!
Exactly. If the money was spent on providing what the council is obligated to do in the first place all the Nigel Farage wannbees frothing at the mouth could all calm down
And your sensible suggestion for where to site this transit camp is where?
[quote][p][bold]Lavengro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]itsneverblackorwhite[/bold] wrote: here we go again! The amount of money that has already been spent on prevention and clear-ups could easily have paid for a transit camp that would legally stop them for camping elsewhere![/p][/quote]Exactly. If the money was spent on providing what the council is obligated to do in the first place all the Nigel Farage wannbees frothing at the mouth could all calm down[/p][/quote]And your sensible suggestion for where to site this transit camp is where? Jo__Go
  • Score: 0

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