Owner of Absolute Music displays ‘wanted’ posters of suspected shoplifters and offers £1,000 reward

Bournemouth Echo: POSTERS: Alan Barclay, managing director of Absolute Music in Knighton Heath, Bournemouth, with a board of suspected thieves POSTERS: Alan Barclay, managing director of Absolute Music in Knighton Heath, Bournemouth, with a board of suspected thieves

THE boss of a Bournemouth music store is waging a war against shoplifting by displaying ‘Wanted’ posters.

Alan Barclay has posted CCTV pictures of five men he believes have been acting suspiciously in Absolute Music in Ringwood Road, Bournemouth.

And he has offered a £1,000 reward leading to conviction despite having no evidence they have stolen anything.

Mr Barclay said shoplifting is a problem at his store, which stocks many high-value items.

The pictures, taken as the men walked around the store, are displayed underneath a sign which says: “WANTED in conjunction with shoplifting.”

Mr Barclay said the men had visited the store on several occasions, sometimes in pairs and sometimes as a group.

He said they spend around an hour at a time in the shop but have never bought anything.

Absolute Music, described as a music superstore, opened on the former Bournemouth and Poole College site in August 2012.

Since then, Mr Barclay said items stolen have included around £6,000 in DJ equipment.

A spokesman for Dorset Police said they are not dealing with any reports of shoplifting at Absolute Music and declined to comment on the Wanted posters.

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1:09pm Tue 1 Apr 14

BoscVegas says...

My local shop owner used to do this when I live in Plymouth. It made for rather amusing reading as the reference was the item they had stolen. Who steals a lettuce? It is a good policy as I bet the shoplifters will not becoming back in when they see their faces on display. Might get a few shopping their acquaintances in for a grand as well, although not sure it would be worth the potential agro for many. Shame the police don't do their jobs properly *cough* Martyn Underhill.
My local shop owner used to do this when I live in Plymouth. It made for rather amusing reading as the reference was the item they had stolen. Who steals a lettuce? It is a good policy as I bet the shoplifters will not becoming back in when they see their faces on display. Might get a few shopping their acquaintances in for a grand as well, although not sure it would be worth the potential agro for many. Shame the police don't do their jobs properly *cough* Martyn Underhill. BoscVegas
  • Score: 23

1:18pm Tue 1 Apr 14

muscliffman says...

How long before these wanted posters have to be removed because of complaints from the usual wet drip 'liberals' in our establishment whose only concern will be about the 'human rights' of the alleged culprits. In fact this is very likely to be the reason the Police declined to comment.
How long before these wanted posters have to be removed because of complaints from the usual wet drip 'liberals' in our establishment whose only concern will be about the 'human rights' of the alleged culprits. In fact this is very likely to be the reason the Police declined to comment. muscliffman
  • Score: 39

1:46pm Tue 1 Apr 14

High Treason says...

Good for him. Shoplifting is an under reported crime. We all pay for it in the prices we pay and a small business can lose so much that the business is no longer.
Good for him. Shoplifting is an under reported crime. We all pay for it in the prices we pay and a small business can lose so much that the business is no longer. High Treason
  • Score: 31

1:59pm Tue 1 Apr 14

whataboutthat says...

Can I just say that what he believes and what actually happens are two different things. If someone put my mugshot up in a public place and made unwarranted accusations then I'd sue them. Simple really.
Can I just say that what he believes and what actually happens are two different things. If someone put my mugshot up in a public place and made unwarranted accusations then I'd sue them. Simple really. whataboutthat
  • Score: -18

2:26pm Tue 1 Apr 14

pete woodley says...

Someone has to make a stand against shoplifters,some do it regularly,and often the cash shops buy in without checking,i did several years on shop security,and some shops get repeatedly robbed.
Someone has to make a stand against shoplifters,some do it regularly,and often the cash shops buy in without checking,i did several years on shop security,and some shops get repeatedly robbed. pete woodley
  • Score: 15

2:27pm Tue 1 Apr 14

eyesropen says...

I think it's a great idea if you're certain the people concerned have stolen something but this seems a bit dubious. There isn't any mention of their visits being tied in with things going missing. They could have been planning a robbery of course, but then again they might not have been. If the guys were spending so much time in the shop why didn't he engage them in conversation to suss them out?
I think it's a great idea if you're certain the people concerned have stolen something but this seems a bit dubious. There isn't any mention of their visits being tied in with things going missing. They could have been planning a robbery of course, but then again they might not have been. If the guys were spending so much time in the shop why didn't he engage them in conversation to suss them out? eyesropen
  • Score: 18

2:40pm Tue 1 Apr 14

boyerboy says...

Bearing in mind our police are now handing out cautions or spot fines for shoplifting, I applaud this stand, what more can an individual do to protect their goods?
Bearing in mind our police are now handing out cautions or spot fines for shoplifting, I applaud this stand, what more can an individual do to protect their goods? boyerboy
  • Score: 19

3:01pm Tue 1 Apr 14

High Treason says...

whataboutthat wrote:
Can I just say that what he believes and what actually happens are two different things. If someone put my mugshot up in a public place and made unwarranted accusations then I'd sue them. Simple really.
Deary me, touched a raw nerve has he? I expect he is quite sure he is correct.
[quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: Can I just say that what he believes and what actually happens are two different things. If someone put my mugshot up in a public place and made unwarranted accusations then I'd sue them. Simple really.[/p][/quote]Deary me, touched a raw nerve has he? I expect he is quite sure he is correct. High Treason
  • Score: 6

3:13pm Tue 1 Apr 14

muscliffman says...

whataboutthat wrote:
Can I just say that what he believes and what actually happens are two different things. If someone put my mugshot up in a public place and made unwarranted accusations then I'd sue them. Simple really.
Absolutely, and that is how it should be......... and I am also pretty sure that none of these will be suing this shop owner anytime soon.
[quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: Can I just say that what he believes and what actually happens are two different things. If someone put my mugshot up in a public place and made unwarranted accusations then I'd sue them. Simple really.[/p][/quote]Absolutely, and that is how it should be......... and I am also pretty sure that none of these will be suing this shop owner anytime soon. muscliffman
  • Score: 17

3:55pm Tue 1 Apr 14

MrPitiful says...

Time will tell if these people go back to the shop.

I wander if he has engaged with them in any way at all. If they are in his shop for up to an hour at a time but don't buy anything, and then come back on other occasions, he should really be more proactive in "susing" them out, as opposed to just letting them leave and then putting their pics up afterwards.

Prevention is better than any cure and like someone else said, he doesn't want to get himself sued!
Time will tell if these people go back to the shop. I wander if he has engaged with them in any way at all. If they are in his shop for up to an hour at a time but don't buy anything, and then come back on other occasions, he should really be more proactive in "susing" them out, as opposed to just letting them leave and then putting their pics up afterwards. Prevention is better than any cure and like someone else said, he doesn't want to get himself sued! MrPitiful
  • Score: 6

4:20pm Tue 1 Apr 14

The Happy Chatterer says...

High Treason wrote:
Good for him. Shoplifting is an under reported crime. We all pay for it in the prices we pay and a small business can lose so much that the business is no longer.
Still is an under reported crime, as he hasn't actually reported it to the Police, DOH.....also note that the Echo hasn't got the b*lls to show any close-ups of the 'perps' ....is that just in case he made the whole thing up for a bit of cheap publicity ???????

If he has a legit complaint, suggest he lodges it with the Police.....
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Good for him. Shoplifting is an under reported crime. We all pay for it in the prices we pay and a small business can lose so much that the business is no longer.[/p][/quote]Still is an under reported crime, as he hasn't actually reported it to the Police, DOH.....also note that the Echo hasn't got the b*lls to show any close-ups of the 'perps' ....is that just in case he made the whole thing up for a bit of cheap publicity ??????? If he has a legit complaint, suggest he lodges it with the Police..... The Happy Chatterer
  • Score: 13

4:26pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Hessenford says...

whataboutthat wrote:
Can I just say that what he believes and what actually happens are two different things. If someone put my mugshot up in a public place and made unwarranted accusations then I'd sue them. Simple really.
My my, have we a guilty conscience.
[quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: Can I just say that what he believes and what actually happens are two different things. If someone put my mugshot up in a public place and made unwarranted accusations then I'd sue them. Simple really.[/p][/quote]My my, have we a guilty conscience. Hessenford
  • Score: -5

4:36pm Tue 1 Apr 14

uberbloke says...

He looks a bit dodgy, and I bet there are kids that go to the store, and although there is no proof or evidence of any kind you cant be too careful.... hmmm, what to do?

I know, I'll put up a sign with his mug on it say "Suspected Peodophile", and offer a reward if he is convicted...

Seems fair.

Doesn't it?
He looks a bit dodgy, and I bet there are kids that go to the store, and although there is no proof or evidence of any kind you cant be too careful.... hmmm, what to do? I know, I'll put up a sign with his mug on it say "Suspected Peodophile", and offer a reward if he is convicted... Seems fair. Doesn't it? uberbloke
  • Score: 5

5:05pm Tue 1 Apr 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

boyerboy wrote:
Bearing in mind our police are now handing out cautions or spot fines for shoplifting, I applaud this stand, what more can an individual do to protect their goods?
Absolutley correct as a Police Officer told me 'it is a victimless crime.'But there is a victim the store owner who then passes the cost on to law abiding shopper.
[quote][p][bold]boyerboy[/bold] wrote: Bearing in mind our police are now handing out cautions or spot fines for shoplifting, I applaud this stand, what more can an individual do to protect their goods?[/p][/quote]Absolutley correct as a Police Officer told me 'it is a victimless crime.'But there is a victim the store owner who then passes the cost on to law abiding shopper. politicaltrainspotter
  • Score: 7

5:10pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Big JD says...

The local police have been informed of these incidents and lets just say 2 of them won't be around for a little while.
The local police have been informed of these incidents and lets just say 2 of them won't be around for a little while. Big JD
  • Score: 5

5:40pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Boscomite says...

BoscVegas wrote:
My local shop owner used to do this when I live in Plymouth. It made for rather amusing reading as the reference was the item they had stolen. Who steals a lettuce? It is a good policy as I bet the shoplifters will not becoming back in when they see their faces on display. Might get a few shopping their acquaintances in for a grand as well, although not sure it would be worth the potential agro for many. Shame the police don't do their jobs properly *cough* Martyn Underhill.
There would be no point in shopping an acquaintance. The reward only stands if it leads to a conviction and he has no evidence. Call it wet drippy liberalism if you like, but posting pictures of people saying they're "wanted in connection with shoplifting", when you have no evidence to support the accusation, is libelous, whichever way you look at it.
[quote][p][bold]BoscVegas[/bold] wrote: My local shop owner used to do this when I live in Plymouth. It made for rather amusing reading as the reference was the item they had stolen. Who steals a lettuce? It is a good policy as I bet the shoplifters will not becoming back in when they see their faces on display. Might get a few shopping their acquaintances in for a grand as well, although not sure it would be worth the potential agro for many. Shame the police don't do their jobs properly *cough* Martyn Underhill.[/p][/quote]There would be no point in shopping an acquaintance. The reward only stands if it leads to a conviction and he has no evidence. Call it wet drippy liberalism if you like, but posting pictures of people saying they're "wanted in connection with shoplifting", when you have no evidence to support the accusation, is libelous, whichever way you look at it. Boscomite
  • Score: 5

5:43pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Bob49 says...

muscliffman wrote:
How long before these wanted posters have to be removed because of complaints from the usual wet drip 'liberals' in our establishment whose only concern will be about the 'human rights' of the alleged culprits. In fact this is very likely to be the reason the Police declined to comment.
God, you don't hald spout some old bo llox at times.

It is a basic tenet of English law that you are innocent unti l proven guilty, that goes back centuries ... not to the latest edition of the Daily Mail.

If this chap has evidence of those stealing then take it to the police. If he has suspicions of them stealing then why allow them into his shop ....... for over an hour !

More disturbing than this idiot and his half baked ideas is the thought that some consider liberal ie free thinking, open minded and tolerant is something to be feared.

I can only wonder why they don't move to a country where free thought and tolerance is not acceptable - and where their ideas would fit.
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: How long before these wanted posters have to be removed because of complaints from the usual wet drip 'liberals' in our establishment whose only concern will be about the 'human rights' of the alleged culprits. In fact this is very likely to be the reason the Police declined to comment.[/p][/quote]God, you don't hald spout some old bo llox at times. It is a basic tenet of English law that you are innocent unti l proven guilty, that goes back centuries ... not to the latest edition of the Daily Mail. If this chap has evidence of those stealing then take it to the police. If he has suspicions of them stealing then why allow them into his shop ....... for over an hour ! More disturbing than this idiot and his half baked ideas is the thought that some consider liberal ie free thinking, open minded and tolerant is something to be feared. I can only wonder why they don't move to a country where free thought and tolerance is not acceptable - and where their ideas would fit. Bob49
  • Score: 4

5:43pm Tue 1 Apr 14

skydriver says...

Hessenford wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
Can I just say that what he believes and what actually happens are two different things. If someone put my mugshot up in a public place and made unwarranted accusations then I'd sue them. Simple really.
My my, have we a guilty conscience.
Something to hide ? Then sue if you could afford the lawyers fees. ,
Although if you have done nothing wrong then your picture will not be up there , simple.
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: Can I just say that what he believes and what actually happens are two different things. If someone put my mugshot up in a public place and made unwarranted accusations then I'd sue them. Simple really.[/p][/quote]My my, have we a guilty conscience.[/p][/quote]Something to hide ? Then sue if you could afford the lawyers fees. , Although if you have done nothing wrong then your picture will not be up there , simple. skydriver
  • Score: -7

7:24pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Bob49 says...

politicaltrainspotte
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wrote:
boyerboy wrote:
Bearing in mind our police are now handing out cautions or spot fines for shoplifting, I applaud this stand, what more can an individual do to protect their goods?
Absolutley correct as a Police Officer told me 'it is a victimless crime.'But there is a victim the store owner who then passes the cost on to law abiding shopper.
incorrect

the shopkeeper can only price his goods at what the market will bear, not based on the amount of shoplifting

it is therefore a loss to his profits, NOT a cost to the shopper
[quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boyerboy[/bold] wrote: Bearing in mind our police are now handing out cautions or spot fines for shoplifting, I applaud this stand, what more can an individual do to protect their goods?[/p][/quote]Absolutley correct as a Police Officer told me 'it is a victimless crime.'But there is a victim the store owner who then passes the cost on to law abiding shopper.[/p][/quote]incorrect the shopkeeper can only price his goods at what the market will bear, not based on the amount of shoplifting it is therefore a loss to his profits, NOT a cost to the shopper Bob49
  • Score: 5

7:36pm Tue 1 Apr 14

apop3d says...

Libel is the use of false, defamatory claims about someone in written or printed form. The shop owner's claims are certainly defamatory, and unless he can prove them (regardless of whether or not they are actually true) he is treading on very, very thin ice. As would be the Echo, had they shown the cctv photos.
Libel is the use of false, defamatory claims about someone in written or printed form. The shop owner's claims are certainly defamatory, and unless he can prove them (regardless of whether or not they are actually true) he is treading on very, very thin ice. As would be the Echo, had they shown the cctv photos. apop3d
  • Score: 8

9:08pm Tue 1 Apr 14

djd says...

Good on the man, he's protecting his own property. There is no such thing as a victimless crime and if these people are stealing from him they are absolute scum and deserve everything that comes their way.
Why do some people think it's their God given right to steal from companies because they think the company can afford the loss.
But then there are always the mugs, like most of this world, who have to work and pay for everything they get.
Shoplifting, or whatever you want to call it, is theft and the victim is the owner of the property. What a sad world we have become if people think it's alright to steal.
Good on the man, he's protecting his own property. There is no such thing as a victimless crime and if these people are stealing from him they are absolute scum and deserve everything that comes their way. Why do some people think it's their God given right to steal from companies because they think the company can afford the loss. But then there are always the mugs, like most of this world, who have to work and pay for everything they get. Shoplifting, or whatever you want to call it, is theft and the victim is the owner of the property. What a sad world we have become if people think it's alright to steal. djd
  • Score: -1

9:25pm Tue 1 Apr 14

Chief-Wiggum says...

Cuff em Boys
Cuff em Boys Chief-Wiggum
  • Score: 2

9:51pm Tue 1 Apr 14

notapeopleperson says...

legaly this is dodgy ground, and the shop owner could well face criminial and civil action. and nobody is going to get a successful prosecution with no evidence, its hard enough to get one with evidence! although i have no doubt that this will put off any would be thieves
legaly this is dodgy ground, and the shop owner could well face criminial and civil action. and nobody is going to get a successful prosecution with no evidence, its hard enough to get one with evidence! although i have no doubt that this will put off any would be thieves notapeopleperson
  • Score: 5

9:51pm Tue 1 Apr 14

notapeopleperson says...

*legally
*legally notapeopleperson
  • Score: -1

6:48am Wed 2 Apr 14

rusty james says...

Spending time and not money in music shops is quite normal, especially if, like this one, they're selling quality instruments. If in London I'll happily wile away an hour in Denmark Street gazing at guitars I can't possibly afford. Never really thought of attempting to put a '57 stratocaster down my trousers though.
Fair play with the wanted posters.
Spending time and not money in music shops is quite normal, especially if, like this one, they're selling quality instruments. If in London I'll happily wile away an hour in Denmark Street gazing at guitars I can't possibly afford. Never really thought of attempting to put a '57 stratocaster down my trousers though. Fair play with the wanted posters. rusty james
  • Score: 1

9:09am Wed 2 Apr 14

BoscVegas says...

Boscomite wrote:
BoscVegas wrote:
My local shop owner used to do this when I live in Plymouth. It made for rather amusing reading as the reference was the item they had stolen. Who steals a lettuce? It is a good policy as I bet the shoplifters will not becoming back in when they see their faces on display. Might get a few shopping their acquaintances in for a grand as well, although not sure it would be worth the potential agro for many. Shame the police don't do their jobs properly *cough* Martyn Underhill.
There would be no point in shopping an acquaintance. The reward only stands if it leads to a conviction and he has no evidence. Call it wet drippy liberalism if you like, but posting pictures of people saying they're "wanted in connection with shoplifting", when you have no evidence to support the accusation, is libelous, whichever way you look at it.
neither of us know the weight of the evidence. He may well have crystal clear HD CCTV which could potentially be enough on its own to convince a jury. You might have a point re the notice being libellous however one can get around that by renaming it. In my aforementioned Plymouth example it was called the 'wall of shame'. but he could also probably get away with 'wanted' as well.
[quote][p][bold]Boscomite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BoscVegas[/bold] wrote: My local shop owner used to do this when I live in Plymouth. It made for rather amusing reading as the reference was the item they had stolen. Who steals a lettuce? It is a good policy as I bet the shoplifters will not becoming back in when they see their faces on display. Might get a few shopping their acquaintances in for a grand as well, although not sure it would be worth the potential agro for many. Shame the police don't do their jobs properly *cough* Martyn Underhill.[/p][/quote]There would be no point in shopping an acquaintance. The reward only stands if it leads to a conviction and he has no evidence. Call it wet drippy liberalism if you like, but posting pictures of people saying they're "wanted in connection with shoplifting", when you have no evidence to support the accusation, is libelous, whichever way you look at it.[/p][/quote]neither of us know the weight of the evidence. He may well have crystal clear HD CCTV which could potentially be enough on its own to convince a jury. You might have a point re the notice being libellous however one can get around that by renaming it. In my aforementioned Plymouth example it was called the 'wall of shame'. but he could also probably get away with 'wanted' as well. BoscVegas
  • Score: 0

5:31pm Wed 2 Apr 14

Bournefre says...

skydriver wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
Can I just say that what he believes and what actually happens are two different things. If someone put my mugshot up in a public place and made unwarranted accusations then I'd sue them. Simple really.
My my, have we a guilty conscience.
Something to hide ? Then sue if you could afford the lawyers fees. ,
Although if you have done nothing wrong then your picture will not be up there , simple.
I can't imagine you would be so understanding if some shop owner printed out a CCTV image of you and posted it in their shop accusing you of being a criminal even though they had no evidence.

It's not me in the pictures and I'm in no way professionally related to this article or the people in it and I am against shoplifiting (or any other theft) just the same as anyone else, but I also believe in being assumed innocent until proven guilty, and I don't consider the opinion of a shop worker to be 'proof'.
[quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: Can I just say that what he believes and what actually happens are two different things. If someone put my mugshot up in a public place and made unwarranted accusations then I'd sue them. Simple really.[/p][/quote]My my, have we a guilty conscience.[/p][/quote]Something to hide ? Then sue if you could afford the lawyers fees. , Although if you have done nothing wrong then your picture will not be up there , simple.[/p][/quote]I can't imagine you would be so understanding if some shop owner printed out a CCTV image of you and posted it in their shop accusing you of being a criminal even though they had no evidence. It's not me in the pictures and I'm in no way professionally related to this article or the people in it and I am against shoplifiting (or any other theft) just the same as anyone else, but I also believe in being assumed innocent until proven guilty, and I don't consider the opinion of a shop worker to be 'proof'. Bournefre
  • Score: 0

10:05pm Wed 2 Apr 14

stevobath says...

pete woodley wrote:
Someone has to make a stand against shoplifters,some do it regularly,and often the cash shops buy in without checking,i did several years on shop security,and some shops get repeatedly robbed.
Maybe because their so called 'security' was useless?
[quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: Someone has to make a stand against shoplifters,some do it regularly,and often the cash shops buy in without checking,i did several years on shop security,and some shops get repeatedly robbed.[/p][/quote]Maybe because their so called 'security' was useless? stevobath
  • Score: 0

10:16pm Wed 2 Apr 14

stevobath says...

I used to spend lots of time in Eddie Moores when I lived in Boscombe.

I wouldn't have been happy if my photo was stuck up alledging a connection with shoplifting. I hope IF there are innocent people being accused they think about suing him.

If they are involved in dodgy activity then I doubt they'll be back...job done.
Of course Bournemouths 'Little Villagers' are out with their metaphorical pitch forks as usual!
I used to spend lots of time in Eddie Moores when I lived in Boscombe. I wouldn't have been happy if my photo was stuck up alledging a connection with shoplifting. I hope IF there are innocent people being accused they think about suing him. If they are involved in dodgy activity then I doubt they'll be back...job done. Of course Bournemouths 'Little Villagers' are out with their metaphorical pitch forks as usual! stevobath
  • Score: 0

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