Drug dealer who is ‘turning life around’ after death of his brother sentenced to two years

HELD: Jordan Wheeler

HELD: Jordan Wheeler

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A DRUG dealer who is ‘turning his life around’ after losing his brother has been sentenced to two years behind bars.

The parents of Jordan Wheeler told a court they had watched the ‘gradual disintegration of his character’ after the death of older brother Carl in 2010.

He was arrested on suspicion of supplying cocaine on July 14 last year after a police officer noticed that one of the headlights on his car wasn’t working and pulled him over, along with Jake Price-Wake.

Anita Gibson-Lee, prosecuting, said: “The officer spoke to Mr Wheeler, and thought he was behaving nervously.

“He told the officer he had been driving aimlessly.”

But a search of the car revealed three wraps of powder, later discovered to be cocaine, and around £300 cash.

Later, a fourth, larger wrap of cocaine was found in the vehicle, and a search of Price-Wake’s home also turned up 3.34 grams of drug MDMA, worth around £90.

Ms Gibson-Lee said more than 14 grams of cocaine – worth £700 if sold on the street – was discovered.

She added that Price-Wake had been helping Wheeler, who was in debt, and was not making a profit from the sale of the drugs.

Defending Wheeler, James Newton-Price said he’d had a ‘promising future’ as a teen, and had achieved 13 GCSEs, as well as playing rugby for his school.

He said: “Since his arrest, a number of important positive changes have begun.”

He told the court that Wheeler is working full-time for free, attending Gamblers Anonymous meetings and has sought counselling.

The defendant’s father Roger said: “He realises the mistakes he has made. He told me he is going to turn his life around and become the son I can be proud of again.”

Wheeler, of Alder Road in Poole, admitted possession of a Class A drug with intent to supply, and was sentenced to 24 months in a young offenders’ institute.

Price-Wake, of Templer Close, pleaded guilty to the same offence, as well as an additional charge of possession of a Class A drug, at Bournemouth Crown Court, and was sentenced to 16 months.

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1:51pm Wed 26 Mar 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Do these defence lawyers write for Disney when are not trying to blag judges?
Do these defence lawyers write for Disney when are not trying to blag judges? kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 8

2:39pm Wed 26 Mar 14

ASM says...

set an example of him to his drug dealing mates
set an example of him to his drug dealing mates ASM
  • Score: 11

2:57pm Wed 26 Mar 14

we-shall-see says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
Do these defence lawyers write for Disney when are not trying to blag judges?
I agree. They paint a picture of sheer remorse and determination to turn their lives around ....... but in reality most of it never happens once they are back outside and it's back to their old ways soon enough.

Blagging the Judge to get a lighter sentence because they don't have the b*lls to do the time is all it is about and time will tell for this young man too :o/
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Do these defence lawyers write for Disney when are not trying to blag judges?[/p][/quote]I agree. They paint a picture of sheer remorse and determination to turn their lives around ....... but in reality most of it never happens once they are back outside and it's back to their old ways soon enough. Blagging the Judge to get a lighter sentence because they don't have the b*lls to do the time is all it is about and time will tell for this young man too :o/ we-shall-see
  • Score: 8

3:04pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Bob49 says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
Do these defence lawyers write for Disney when are not trying to blag judges?
if both pleaded guilty then why are the 'defence' there ?

how much were they paid - and for what purpose ?

time and time agin some scrote comes up before the court pleading guilty with some pin striped idiot getting paid thousands to waffle a load of old cobblers - the the defendant, the judge and even he knows ............ it's all a load of old cobblers

stop this nonsense and spend the money on the genuinely needy instead
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Do these defence lawyers write for Disney when are not trying to blag judges?[/p][/quote]if both pleaded guilty then why are the 'defence' there ? how much were they paid - and for what purpose ? time and time agin some scrote comes up before the court pleading guilty with some pin striped idiot getting paid thousands to waffle a load of old cobblers - the the defendant, the judge and even he knows ............ it's all a load of old cobblers stop this nonsense and spend the money on the genuinely needy instead Bob49
  • Score: 3

3:18pm Wed 26 Mar 14

suzigirl says...

The disqualified idiot who failed to stop after an RTC involving my son who consequently died was blubbing in Court about his depression and that he could not work or drive and guess what he was caught driving while disqualified again............ so it does not surprise me what these muppets come up with in Court.....
The disqualified idiot who failed to stop after an RTC involving my son who consequently died was blubbing in Court about his depression and that he could not work or drive and guess what he was caught driving while disqualified again............ so it does not surprise me what these muppets come up with in Court..... suzigirl
  • Score: 12

3:25pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

"said he’d had a ‘promising future’ as a teen"

---

So did Fred West and look where that ended up.
"said he’d had a ‘promising future’ as a teen" --- So did Fred West and look where that ended up. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 4

3:41pm Wed 26 Mar 14

djd says...

I think it's wonderful how these young men turn their lives around just before they come up before the Court for sentence.
How can any defence barrister believe the 'airy-fairy' stories that they put forward is beyond me.
Makes them no better than their clients if they try to pull the wool over the eyes of the Court in this way.
I think it's wonderful how these young men turn their lives around just before they come up before the Court for sentence. How can any defence barrister believe the 'airy-fairy' stories that they put forward is beyond me. Makes them no better than their clients if they try to pull the wool over the eyes of the Court in this way. djd
  • Score: 5

4:29pm Wed 26 Mar 14

smartin6963 says...

Bob49 wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
Do these defence lawyers write for Disney when are not trying to blag judges?
if both pleaded guilty then why are the 'defence' there ?

how much were they paid - and for what purpose ?

time and time agin some scrote comes up before the court pleading guilty with some pin striped idiot getting paid thousands to waffle a load of old cobblers - the the defendant, the judge and even he knows ............ it's all a load of old cobblers

stop this nonsense and spend the money on the genuinely needy instead
Defence barristers get £60 for a sentence hearing. Take away travel expenses/parking, tax, vat, 23% to Chambers and they're left with an hourly rate of less than £2.30 - sometimes they are at Court all day depending on what else is listed in the Judge's Court. Don't blab about what you know nothing about.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Do these defence lawyers write for Disney when are not trying to blag judges?[/p][/quote]if both pleaded guilty then why are the 'defence' there ? how much were they paid - and for what purpose ? time and time agin some scrote comes up before the court pleading guilty with some pin striped idiot getting paid thousands to waffle a load of old cobblers - the the defendant, the judge and even he knows ............ it's all a load of old cobblers stop this nonsense and spend the money on the genuinely needy instead[/p][/quote]Defence barristers get £60 for a sentence hearing. Take away travel expenses/parking, tax, vat, 23% to Chambers and they're left with an hourly rate of less than £2.30 - sometimes they are at Court all day depending on what else is listed in the Judge's Court. Don't blab about what you know nothing about. smartin6963
  • Score: 4

4:36pm Wed 26 Mar 14

smartin6963 says...

Bob49 wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote: Do these defence lawyers write for Disney when are not trying to blag judges?
if both pleaded guilty then why are the 'defence' there ? how much were they paid - and for what purpose ? time and time agin some scrote comes up before the court pleading guilty with some pin striped idiot getting paid thousands to waffle a load of old cobblers - the the defendant, the judge and even he knows ............ it's all a load of old cobblers stop this nonsense and spend the money on the genuinely needy instead
De
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Do these defence lawyers write for Disney when are not trying to blag judges?[/p][/quote]if both pleaded guilty then why are the 'defence' there ? how much were they paid - and for what purpose ? time and time agin some scrote comes up before the court pleading guilty with some pin striped idiot getting paid thousands to waffle a load of old cobblers - the the defendant, the judge and even he knows ............ it's all a load of old cobblers stop this nonsense and spend the money on the genuinely needy instead[/p][/quote]De smartin6963
  • Score: -5

5:21pm Wed 26 Mar 14

ShuttleX says...

suzigirl wrote:
The disqualified idiot who failed to stop after an RTC involving my son who consequently died was blubbing in Court about his depression and that he could not work or drive and guess what he was caught driving while disqualified again............ so it does not surprise me what these muppets come up with in Court.....
I'm sorry to hear of your loss suzigirl. I do agree with you that the Courts are too soft on these people. Personally I think their cars should be taken off them and crushed. You should not be allowed to buy a car unless you have a valid licence.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: The disqualified idiot who failed to stop after an RTC involving my son who consequently died was blubbing in Court about his depression and that he could not work or drive and guess what he was caught driving while disqualified again............ so it does not surprise me what these muppets come up with in Court.....[/p][/quote]I'm sorry to hear of your loss suzigirl. I do agree with you that the Courts are too soft on these people. Personally I think their cars should be taken off them and crushed. You should not be allowed to buy a car unless you have a valid licence. ShuttleX
  • Score: 9

5:35pm Wed 26 Mar 14

Bob49 says...

smartin6963 wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
Do these defence lawyers write for Disney when are not trying to blag judges?
if both pleaded guilty then why are the 'defence' there ?

how much were they paid - and for what purpose ?

time and time agin some scrote comes up before the court pleading guilty with some pin striped idiot getting paid thousands to waffle a load of old cobblers - the the defendant, the judge and even he knows ............ it's all a load of old cobblers

stop this nonsense and spend the money on the genuinely needy instead
Defence barristers get £60 for a sentence hearing. Take away travel expenses/parking, tax, vat, 23% to Chambers and they're left with an hourly rate of less than £2.30 - sometimes they are at Court all day depending on what else is listed in the Judge's Court. Don't blab about what you know nothing about.
And if to prove they are happy to spout guff - up pops one

No comment about how much is charged in preparing the case,

All; we get is that a defence barrister is earning £2.30 an hour ...... as all the cases last one hour and all expenses can only be assigned to that one case

The law not be an ****, but you certainly are smartin if you think that anyone has fallen for your £2.30 an hour bleat
[quote][p][bold]smartin6963[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Do these defence lawyers write for Disney when are not trying to blag judges?[/p][/quote]if both pleaded guilty then why are the 'defence' there ? how much were they paid - and for what purpose ? time and time agin some scrote comes up before the court pleading guilty with some pin striped idiot getting paid thousands to waffle a load of old cobblers - the the defendant, the judge and even he knows ............ it's all a load of old cobblers stop this nonsense and spend the money on the genuinely needy instead[/p][/quote]Defence barristers get £60 for a sentence hearing. Take away travel expenses/parking, tax, vat, 23% to Chambers and they're left with an hourly rate of less than £2.30 - sometimes they are at Court all day depending on what else is listed in the Judge's Court. Don't blab about what you know nothing about.[/p][/quote]And if to prove they are happy to spout guff - up pops one No comment about how much is charged in preparing the case, All; we get is that a defence barrister is earning £2.30 an hour ...... as all the cases last one hour and all expenses can only be assigned to that one case The law not be an ****, but you certainly are smartin if you think that anyone has fallen for your £2.30 an hour bleat Bob49
  • Score: 8

5:58pm Wed 26 Mar 14

O'Reilly says...

ASM wrote:
set an example of him to his drug dealing mates
It's beyond that............no thought, no consciene anymore, just oblivion.......
[quote][p][bold]ASM[/bold] wrote: set an example of him to his drug dealing mates[/p][/quote]It's beyond that............no thought, no consciene anymore, just oblivion....... O'Reilly
  • Score: 0

6:18pm Wed 26 Mar 14

boardsandphotos says...

Bob49 wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
Do these defence lawyers write for Disney when are not trying to blag judges?
if both pleaded guilty then why are the 'defence' there ?

how much were they paid - and for what purpose ?

time and time agin some scrote comes up before the court pleading guilty with some pin striped idiot getting paid thousands to waffle a load of old cobblers - the the defendant, the judge and even he knows ............ it's all a load of old cobblers

stop this nonsense and spend the money on the genuinely needy instead
The fact of the matter is everyone has the right to a fair trial, the investigation carried out by the Police needs to be presented and the defence has the right to examine it to ensure due diligence has been carried out.

It's not perfect, I imagine it's terribly frustrating for the police carrying out the investigation but we don't live in a facist state,
we live in a democracy where everyone is considered innocent until proven guilty, do you really want to deny the right to councel from anyone the Police decide is guilty?

Slippery slope.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Do these defence lawyers write for Disney when are not trying to blag judges?[/p][/quote]if both pleaded guilty then why are the 'defence' there ? how much were they paid - and for what purpose ? time and time agin some scrote comes up before the court pleading guilty with some pin striped idiot getting paid thousands to waffle a load of old cobblers - the the defendant, the judge and even he knows ............ it's all a load of old cobblers stop this nonsense and spend the money on the genuinely needy instead[/p][/quote]The fact of the matter is everyone has the right to a fair trial, the investigation carried out by the Police needs to be presented and the defence has the right to examine it to ensure due diligence has been carried out. It's not perfect, I imagine it's terribly frustrating for the police carrying out the investigation but we don't live in a facist state, we live in a democracy where everyone is considered innocent until proven guilty, do you really want to deny the right to councel from anyone the Police decide is guilty? Slippery slope. boardsandphotos
  • Score: 3

6:38pm Wed 26 Mar 14

djd says...

boardsandphotos wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
Do these defence lawyers write for Disney when are not trying to blag judges?
if both pleaded guilty then why are the 'defence' there ?

how much were they paid - and for what purpose ?

time and time agin some scrote comes up before the court pleading guilty with some pin striped idiot getting paid thousands to waffle a load of old cobblers - the the defendant, the judge and even he knows ............ it's all a load of old cobblers

stop this nonsense and spend the money on the genuinely needy instead
The fact of the matter is everyone has the right to a fair trial, the investigation carried out by the Police needs to be presented and the defence has the right to examine it to ensure due diligence has been carried out.

It's not perfect, I imagine it's terribly frustrating for the police carrying out the investigation but we don't live in a facist state,
we live in a democracy where everyone is considered innocent until proven guilty, do you really want to deny the right to councel from anyone the Police decide is guilty?

Slippery slope.
It's not the police who decide the defendants are guilty. They make that decision themselves. That's why they enter a Guilty plea.
[quote][p][bold]boardsandphotos[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Do these defence lawyers write for Disney when are not trying to blag judges?[/p][/quote]if both pleaded guilty then why are the 'defence' there ? how much were they paid - and for what purpose ? time and time agin some scrote comes up before the court pleading guilty with some pin striped idiot getting paid thousands to waffle a load of old cobblers - the the defendant, the judge and even he knows ............ it's all a load of old cobblers stop this nonsense and spend the money on the genuinely needy instead[/p][/quote]The fact of the matter is everyone has the right to a fair trial, the investigation carried out by the Police needs to be presented and the defence has the right to examine it to ensure due diligence has been carried out. It's not perfect, I imagine it's terribly frustrating for the police carrying out the investigation but we don't live in a facist state, we live in a democracy where everyone is considered innocent until proven guilty, do you really want to deny the right to councel from anyone the Police decide is guilty? Slippery slope.[/p][/quote]It's not the police who decide the defendants are guilty. They make that decision themselves. That's why they enter a Guilty plea. djd
  • Score: 5

7:54pm Wed 26 Mar 14

smartin6963 says...

Bob49 wrote:
smartin6963 wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote: Do these defence lawyers write for Disney when are not trying to blag judges?
if both pleaded guilty then why are the 'defence' there ? how much were they paid - and for what purpose ? time and time agin some scrote comes up before the court pleading guilty with some pin striped idiot getting paid thousands to waffle a load of old cobblers - the the defendant, the judge and even he knows ............ it's all a load of old cobblers stop this nonsense and spend the money on the genuinely needy instead
Defence barristers get £60 for a sentence hearing. Take away travel expenses/parking, tax, vat, 23% to Chambers and they're left with an hourly rate of less than £2.30 - sometimes they are at Court all day depending on what else is listed in the Judge's Court. Don't blab about what you know nothing about.
And if to prove they are happy to spout guff - up pops one No comment about how much is charged in preparing the case, All; we get is that a defence barrister is earning £2.30 an hour ...... as all the cases last one hour and all expenses can only be assigned to that one case The law not be an ****, but you certainly are smartin if you think that anyone has fallen for your £2.30 an hour bleat
Happy to report I am not a Barrister, but there is no prep fee, no hearing lasts one hour and no expenses are paid, get your facts straight before commenting, that's all my comment was hi-lighting.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smartin6963[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Do these defence lawyers write for Disney when are not trying to blag judges?[/p][/quote]if both pleaded guilty then why are the 'defence' there ? how much were they paid - and for what purpose ? time and time agin some scrote comes up before the court pleading guilty with some pin striped idiot getting paid thousands to waffle a load of old cobblers - the the defendant, the judge and even he knows ............ it's all a load of old cobblers stop this nonsense and spend the money on the genuinely needy instead[/p][/quote]Defence barristers get £60 for a sentence hearing. Take away travel expenses/parking, tax, vat, 23% to Chambers and they're left with an hourly rate of less than £2.30 - sometimes they are at Court all day depending on what else is listed in the Judge's Court. Don't blab about what you know nothing about.[/p][/quote]And if to prove they are happy to spout guff - up pops one No comment about how much is charged in preparing the case, All; we get is that a defence barrister is earning £2.30 an hour ...... as all the cases last one hour and all expenses can only be assigned to that one case The law not be an ****, but you certainly are smartin if you think that anyone has fallen for your £2.30 an hour bleat[/p][/quote]Happy to report I am not a Barrister, but there is no prep fee, no hearing lasts one hour and no expenses are paid, get your facts straight before commenting, that's all my comment was hi-lighting. smartin6963
  • Score: -4

10:20pm Wed 26 Mar 14

hooplaa says...

smartin6963 wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
smartin6963 wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote: Do these defence lawyers write for Disney when are not trying to blag judges?
if both pleaded guilty then why are the 'defence' there ? how much were they paid - and for what purpose ? time and time agin some scrote comes up before the court pleading guilty with some pin striped idiot getting paid thousands to waffle a load of old cobblers - the the defendant, the judge and even he knows ............ it's all a load of old cobblers stop this nonsense and spend the money on the genuinely needy instead
Defence barristers get £60 for a sentence hearing. Take away travel expenses/parking, tax, vat, 23% to Chambers and they're left with an hourly rate of less than £2.30 - sometimes they are at Court all day depending on what else is listed in the Judge's Court. Don't blab about what you know nothing about.
And if to prove they are happy to spout guff - up pops one No comment about how much is charged in preparing the case, All; we get is that a defence barrister is earning £2.30 an hour ...... as all the cases last one hour and all expenses can only be assigned to that one case The law not be an ****, but you certainly are smartin if you think that anyone has fallen for your £2.30 an hour bleat
Happy to report I am not a Barrister, but there is no prep fee, no hearing lasts one hour and no expenses are paid, get your facts straight before commenting, that's all my comment was hi-lighting.
What are you talking about £2.30 an hour?! Dont be so ridiculous!
[quote][p][bold]smartin6963[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smartin6963[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Do these defence lawyers write for Disney when are not trying to blag judges?[/p][/quote]if both pleaded guilty then why are the 'defence' there ? how much were they paid - and for what purpose ? time and time agin some scrote comes up before the court pleading guilty with some pin striped idiot getting paid thousands to waffle a load of old cobblers - the the defendant, the judge and even he knows ............ it's all a load of old cobblers stop this nonsense and spend the money on the genuinely needy instead[/p][/quote]Defence barristers get £60 for a sentence hearing. Take away travel expenses/parking, tax, vat, 23% to Chambers and they're left with an hourly rate of less than £2.30 - sometimes they are at Court all day depending on what else is listed in the Judge's Court. Don't blab about what you know nothing about.[/p][/quote]And if to prove they are happy to spout guff - up pops one No comment about how much is charged in preparing the case, All; we get is that a defence barrister is earning £2.30 an hour ...... as all the cases last one hour and all expenses can only be assigned to that one case The law not be an ****, but you certainly are smartin if you think that anyone has fallen for your £2.30 an hour bleat[/p][/quote]Happy to report I am not a Barrister, but there is no prep fee, no hearing lasts one hour and no expenses are paid, get your facts straight before commenting, that's all my comment was hi-lighting.[/p][/quote]What are you talking about £2.30 an hour?! Dont be so ridiculous! hooplaa
  • Score: 6

9:04am Thu 27 Mar 14

suzigirl says...

ShuttleX wrote:
suzigirl wrote: The disqualified idiot who failed to stop after an RTC involving my son who consequently died was blubbing in Court about his depression and that he could not work or drive and guess what he was caught driving while disqualified again............ so it does not surprise me what these muppets come up with in Court.....
I'm sorry to hear of your loss suzigirl. I do agree with you that the Courts are too soft on these people. Personally I think their cars should be taken off them and crushed. You should not be allowed to buy a car unless you have a valid licence.
Thanks for your comment. It is the anniversary of my son's death on the 2nd April and it is a very hard time for me. I am still a great believer is what goes around comes around...........
[quote][p][bold]ShuttleX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: The disqualified idiot who failed to stop after an RTC involving my son who consequently died was blubbing in Court about his depression and that he could not work or drive and guess what he was caught driving while disqualified again............ so it does not surprise me what these muppets come up with in Court.....[/p][/quote]I'm sorry to hear of your loss suzigirl. I do agree with you that the Courts are too soft on these people. Personally I think their cars should be taken off them and crushed. You should not be allowed to buy a car unless you have a valid licence.[/p][/quote]Thanks for your comment. It is the anniversary of my son's death on the 2nd April and it is a very hard time for me. I am still a great believer is what goes around comes around........... suzigirl
  • Score: 0

11:14am Thu 27 Mar 14

Bob49 says...

hooplaa wrote:
smartin6963 wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
smartin6963 wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote: Do these defence lawyers write for Disney when are not trying to blag judges?
if both pleaded guilty then why are the 'defence' there ? how much were they paid - and for what purpose ? time and time agin some scrote comes up before the court pleading guilty with some pin striped idiot getting paid thousands to waffle a load of old cobblers - the the defendant, the judge and even he knows ............ it's all a load of old cobblers stop this nonsense and spend the money on the genuinely needy instead
Defence barristers get £60 for a sentence hearing. Take away travel expenses/parking, tax, vat, 23% to Chambers and they're left with an hourly rate of less than £2.30 - sometimes they are at Court all day depending on what else is listed in the Judge's Court. Don't blab about what you know nothing about.
And if to prove they are happy to spout guff - up pops one No comment about how much is charged in preparing the case, All; we get is that a defence barrister is earning £2.30 an hour ...... as all the cases last one hour and all expenses can only be assigned to that one case The law not be an ****, but you certainly are smartin if you think that anyone has fallen for your £2.30 an hour bleat
Happy to report I am not a Barrister, but there is no prep fee, no hearing lasts one hour and no expenses are paid, get your facts straight before commenting, that's all my comment was hi-lighting.
What are you talking about £2.30 an hour?! Dont be so ridiculous!
pretty obvious by your comments

i was not claiming that hearings last an hour, but that by your calculations they must

neiither was I claiming that barristers were paid expenses, but that you were infering that the expenses they incurred over a day were ascribed to one case

and you are wrong about Barristers fees - or maybe you could tell us why costs are so high if a barrister only gets paid £2.30 an hour

as to the bit earlier about a fair hearing then of course that is imperative, but when the person has pleade guilty why cannot his statement of mitigation be preseted written, not needing this ' £2.30' an hour' barrister ?

the law as practised in this country is on the whole a money making racket,with these type of trials a cosy snouts in the trough for all concerned.
[quote][p][bold]hooplaa[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smartin6963[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smartin6963[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Do these defence lawyers write for Disney when are not trying to blag judges?[/p][/quote]if both pleaded guilty then why are the 'defence' there ? how much were they paid - and for what purpose ? time and time agin some scrote comes up before the court pleading guilty with some pin striped idiot getting paid thousands to waffle a load of old cobblers - the the defendant, the judge and even he knows ............ it's all a load of old cobblers stop this nonsense and spend the money on the genuinely needy instead[/p][/quote]Defence barristers get £60 for a sentence hearing. Take away travel expenses/parking, tax, vat, 23% to Chambers and they're left with an hourly rate of less than £2.30 - sometimes they are at Court all day depending on what else is listed in the Judge's Court. Don't blab about what you know nothing about.[/p][/quote]And if to prove they are happy to spout guff - up pops one No comment about how much is charged in preparing the case, All; we get is that a defence barrister is earning £2.30 an hour ...... as all the cases last one hour and all expenses can only be assigned to that one case The law not be an ****, but you certainly are smartin if you think that anyone has fallen for your £2.30 an hour bleat[/p][/quote]Happy to report I am not a Barrister, but there is no prep fee, no hearing lasts one hour and no expenses are paid, get your facts straight before commenting, that's all my comment was hi-lighting.[/p][/quote]What are you talking about £2.30 an hour?! Dont be so ridiculous![/p][/quote]pretty obvious by your comments i was not claiming that hearings last an hour, but that by your calculations they must neiither was I claiming that barristers were paid expenses, but that you were infering that the expenses they incurred over a day were ascribed to one case and you are wrong about Barristers fees - or maybe you could tell us why costs are so high if a barrister only gets paid £2.30 an hour as to the bit earlier about a fair hearing then of course that is imperative, but when the person has pleade guilty why cannot his statement of mitigation be preseted written, not needing this ' £2.30' an hour' barrister ? the law as practised in this country is on the whole a money making racket,with these type of trials a cosy snouts in the trough for all concerned. Bob49
  • Score: 2

1:44pm Thu 27 Mar 14

RM says...

suzigirl wrote:
ShuttleX wrote:
suzigirl wrote: The disqualified idiot who failed to stop after an RTC involving my son who consequently died was blubbing in Court about his depression and that he could not work or drive and guess what he was caught driving while disqualified again............ so it does not surprise me what these muppets come up with in Court.....
I'm sorry to hear of your loss suzigirl. I do agree with you that the Courts are too soft on these people. Personally I think their cars should be taken off them and crushed. You should not be allowed to buy a car unless you have a valid licence.
Thanks for your comment. It is the anniversary of my son's death on the 2nd April and it is a very hard time for me. I am still a great believer is what goes around comes around...........
Condolences & will be thinking of you & your boy on April 2nd.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ShuttleX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: The disqualified idiot who failed to stop after an RTC involving my son who consequently died was blubbing in Court about his depression and that he could not work or drive and guess what he was caught driving while disqualified again............ so it does not surprise me what these muppets come up with in Court.....[/p][/quote]I'm sorry to hear of your loss suzigirl. I do agree with you that the Courts are too soft on these people. Personally I think their cars should be taken off them and crushed. You should not be allowed to buy a car unless you have a valid licence.[/p][/quote]Thanks for your comment. It is the anniversary of my son's death on the 2nd April and it is a very hard time for me. I am still a great believer is what goes around comes around...........[/p][/quote]Condolences & will be thinking of you & your boy on April 2nd. RM
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11:28am Wed 16 Apr 14

Sampar243 says...

suzigirl wrote:
The disqualified idiot who failed to stop after an RTC involving my son who consequently died was blubbing in Court about his depression and that he could not work or drive and guess what he was caught driving while disqualified again............ so it does not surprise me what these muppets come up with in Court.....
I'm so sorry suzigirl for your loss, was this idiot disqualified at the time of your sons accident. Or was it as a result of this that he was disqualified? I am also a great believer in what goes around comes around.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: The disqualified idiot who failed to stop after an RTC involving my son who consequently died was blubbing in Court about his depression and that he could not work or drive and guess what he was caught driving while disqualified again............ so it does not surprise me what these muppets come up with in Court.....[/p][/quote]I'm so sorry suzigirl for your loss, was this idiot disqualified at the time of your sons accident. Or was it as a result of this that he was disqualified? I am also a great believer in what goes around comes around. Sampar243
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11:28am Wed 16 Apr 14

Sampar243 says...

suzigirl wrote:
The disqualified idiot who failed to stop after an RTC involving my son who consequently died was blubbing in Court about his depression and that he could not work or drive and guess what he was caught driving while disqualified again............ so it does not surprise me what these muppets come up with in Court.....
I'm so sorry suzigirl for your loss, was this idiot disqualified at the time of your sons accident. Or was it as a result of this that he was disqualified? I am also a great believer in what goes around comes around.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: The disqualified idiot who failed to stop after an RTC involving my son who consequently died was blubbing in Court about his depression and that he could not work or drive and guess what he was caught driving while disqualified again............ so it does not surprise me what these muppets come up with in Court.....[/p][/quote]I'm so sorry suzigirl for your loss, was this idiot disqualified at the time of your sons accident. Or was it as a result of this that he was disqualified? I am also a great believer in what goes around comes around. Sampar243
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