Two members of Poole council’s cabinet oppose travellers transit site – but will keep their post unlike sacked colleague Cllr Judy Butt

Two members of Poole council’s cabinet oppose travellers transit site – but will keep their post unlike sacked colleague Cllr Judy Butt

OBJECTIONS: Land at Fleetsbridge earmarked for a transit site

OPPOSED: Cllr Janet Walton

OPPOSED: Cllr Ian Potter

First published in News by

TWO members of Poole council’s cabinet have come out against controversial plans for a transit site for gypsies and travellers in the town.

But the pair will keep their posts in the cabinet – unlike colleague Cllr Judy Butt, who was sacked after opposing a planned site in her Creekmoor patch.

The members defying the council’s policy on the issue are Cllr Ian Potter, cabinet member for transport and regulatory services, and Cllr Janet Walton, cabinet member for children, families, youth services and public health.

Cllr Potter was only appointed to the cabinet last month after the sacking of Cllr Butt.

The borough is proposing two transit sites for travellers – one with 12 pitches at Marshes End, Creekmoor, and one with four pitches at land north of the B&Q car park at Broadstone Way. Cllrs Potter and Walton are both ward members for Oakdale and oppose the Broadstone Way plan.

They would only comment to the Daily Echo via an emailed statement, which said: “The Oakdale ward councillors were in favour of finding a temporary stopping place for gypsies and travellers, but we do not think that the proposed site along Broadstone Way, north of B&Q, is appropriate for planning and safety reasons and therefore do not support the recommendation.”

In response to a question about their future in the cabinet, they replied: “Any decision regarding cabinet positions is made by the leader and therefore it would not be appropriate for us to comment.”

Council leader Cllr Elaine Atkinson said her colleagues were entitled to oppose the sites.

“They’re allowed to do that – they’re ward councillors,” she said.

“There’s been some suggestion that, as they’re cabinet members, they should go the same way as Judy Butt, but Judy Butt wasn’t sacked for being in disagreement with the cabinet. She was sacked because she was the cabinet portfolio holder who had led the whole issue of how we dealt with the travellers.”

Cllr Butt had held meetings as cabinet member for public engagement and participation but had then opposed the site in her ward, Cllr Atkinson said.

“You can’t lead and challenge on something until it’s in your own back yard and then change your mind,” she said.

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5:55am Tue 18 Mar 14

Mad Karew says...

Once again Cllr Atkinson has lied about this!! Judy Butt was NOT repeat NOT responsible for the traveller site policy. Her responsibility was to hold a meeting last October to inform residents organisations about the Council's traveller policies and report feedback to the Council, which she did very successfully, but her responsibility ended there.

The idea of the temporary stopping place came from Mike White at that meeting, and he has pushed it through since then, including selecting the controversial sites at Creekmoor and Oakdale. These two sites are obviously not tenable and are a cynical attempt to exclude gypsies and travellers from Poole altogether, an attempt which is doomed to failure.

Atkinson has clearly lost the plot completely and it's now past time for her to step down and make way for someone more capable - such as Judy Butt!
Once again Cllr Atkinson has lied about this!! Judy Butt was NOT repeat NOT responsible for the traveller site policy. Her responsibility was to hold a meeting last October to inform residents organisations about the Council's traveller policies and report feedback to the Council, which she did very successfully, but her responsibility ended there. The idea of the temporary stopping place came from Mike White at that meeting, and he has pushed it through since then, including selecting the controversial sites at Creekmoor and Oakdale. These two sites are obviously not tenable and are a cynical attempt to exclude gypsies and travellers from Poole altogether, an attempt which is doomed to failure. Atkinson has clearly lost the plot completely and it's now past time for her to step down and make way for someone more capable - such as Judy Butt! Mad Karew
  • Score: 28

7:04am Tue 18 Mar 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Anyone apposed to travelers should look to UKIP where they will find support .And more importantly no Elaine Atkinson playing our glorious leader
Anyone apposed to travelers should look to UKIP where they will find support .And more importantly no Elaine Atkinson playing our glorious leader kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 14

7:13am Tue 18 Mar 14

Plumber64 says...

This Council is rotten to the Core , it's prejudice against people who have sun glasses stuck to their head . Join the free Rayban party
This Council is rotten to the Core , it's prejudice against people who have sun glasses stuck to their head . Join the free Rayban party Plumber64
  • Score: 11

7:25am Tue 18 Mar 14

muscliffman says...

So what we were told about Councillor Butt's enforced departure from Cabinet was a little economic with the truth and the actions behind it may even have been personal?

Whilst the Poole Conservative's continue with this public self destruction that new local UKIP office might well find itself rather busy handling membership applications from several more local Councillors.

'Taxi!' for Councillor Atkinson............
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So what we were told about Councillor Butt's enforced departure from Cabinet was a little economic with the truth and the actions behind it may even have been personal? Whilst the Poole Conservative's continue with this public self destruction that new local UKIP office might well find itself rather busy handling membership applications from several more local Councillors. 'Taxi!' for Councillor Atkinson............ ..... muscliffman
  • Score: 15

7:28am Tue 18 Mar 14

TheDistrict says...

What is said above by Mad Karew, should be thrust in the face of Cllr Atkinson as proof of her own lies to oust a cabinet member from office. In her position should not be permitted to pick and choose who she sacks, in particular when the issues are so close.

If anyone should be sacked it should be Cllr Atkinson. The sooner the better so that the council can get on with the priorities for Poole.
What is said above by Mad Karew, should be thrust in the face of Cllr Atkinson as proof of her own lies to oust a cabinet member from office. In her position should not be permitted to pick and choose who she sacks, in particular when the issues are so close. If anyone should be sacked it should be Cllr Atkinson. The sooner the better so that the council can get on with the priorities for Poole. TheDistrict
  • Score: 12

7:33am Tue 18 Mar 14

caravan1 says...

Oh my Cllr. Atkinson, been on the wine again dear.
As pointed out by Mad Karew, and as you well know, Judy Butt was not reponsible for this policy.
What we need to know is at what stage do you lose the concept of reality, is it after the first bottle or well into the second?
If your lies are so consistent over this matter, may we wonder what other policies you have lied about?
Amazingly you have shown no shame over your actions or your contempt for the Creekmoor residents and cllr. Butt, but then again life looks rosy through the bottom of a bottle!
It would seem that Mike White is the driving force behind this,personally involved in discounting 90 other sites, perhaps the Echo could ask the organ grinder next time and spare us the lies of the monkey.
I may add I pointed out the inconsistencies in Atkinson's cabinet selection over a month ago, at last the Echo keeps up!
Oh my Cllr. Atkinson, been on the wine again dear. As pointed out by Mad Karew, and as you well know, Judy Butt was not reponsible for this policy. What we need to know is at what stage do you lose the concept of reality, is it after the first bottle or well into the second? If your lies are so consistent over this matter, may we wonder what other policies you have lied about? Amazingly you have shown no shame over your actions or your contempt for the Creekmoor residents and cllr. Butt, but then again life looks rosy through the bottom of a bottle! It would seem that Mike White is the driving force behind this,personally involved in discounting 90 other sites, perhaps the Echo could ask the organ grinder next time and spare us the lies of the monkey. I may add I pointed out the inconsistencies in Atkinson's cabinet selection over a month ago, at last the Echo keeps up! caravan1
  • Score: 12

7:35am Tue 18 Mar 14

ashleycross says...

Being in Europe is the reason we even have children's play areas left in Poole. They would have all been built over long ago rather than have play equipment on them if we were independent of Europe. And we wouldn't have any maternity leave either. The current unofficial council policy of letting children's play areas be used as gypsy sites has got to stop. The councillors blocking the gypsy site are effectively keeping children out of play areas all summer, as seems to be the accepted norm here in Poole.
This isn't about giving gypsies somewhere to camp,they already have that, its about moving them off the play areas.
Being in Europe is the reason we even have children's play areas left in Poole. They would have all been built over long ago rather than have play equipment on them if we were independent of Europe. And we wouldn't have any maternity leave either. The current unofficial council policy of letting children's play areas be used as gypsy sites has got to stop. The councillors blocking the gypsy site are effectively keeping children out of play areas all summer, as seems to be the accepted norm here in Poole. This isn't about giving gypsies somewhere to camp,they already have that, its about moving them off the play areas. ashleycross
  • Score: -4

7:36am Tue 18 Mar 14

carrrob says...

Oh poor old Judy I am sure she will be back on the gravy train soon !
Oh poor old Judy I am sure she will be back on the gravy train soon ! carrrob
  • Score: -12

7:56am Tue 18 Mar 14

kalebmoledirt says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
Anyone apposed to travelers should look to UKIP where they will find support .And more importantly no Elaine Atkinson playing our glorious leader
Must say Janet Walton is very fragrant which does not help if the boss looks like a pro darts player
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Anyone apposed to travelers should look to UKIP where they will find support .And more importantly no Elaine Atkinson playing our glorious leader[/p][/quote]Must say Janet Walton is very fragrant which does not help if the boss looks like a pro darts player kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 3

8:11am Tue 18 Mar 14

moleman says...

If Judy Butt was responsible for the plan to have temporary stopping sites for travellers in the Poole area, then she had a duty to step down when she found out that the site was in Creekmoor because she could not sell the idea to residents and get re-elected next time. She also couldn't refuse to have the site in her own back yard and then try and sell the idea to other councillors to have a TSP in their ward.
A no-win situation..
If Judy Butt was responsible for the plan to have temporary stopping sites for travellers in the Poole area, then she had a duty to step down when she found out that the site was in Creekmoor because she could not sell the idea to residents and get re-elected next time. She also couldn't refuse to have the site in her own back yard and then try and sell the idea to other councillors to have a TSP in their ward. A no-win situation.. moleman
  • Score: 2

8:24am Tue 18 Mar 14

Carolyn43 says...

The whole thing is being dealt with in an underhand manner.
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I read the contamination report last night - goodness knows how much money was wasted on that. The consultancy firm was told not to test for asbestos if none could be seen, even though a builder has said he dumped asbestos there. So there could be asbestos dust or small particles.
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They say there is methane and have a photo of it bubbling in one of their tests pits, and there's an amusing drawing of methane rising under a caravan and a man, but say this will not happen if a trench is dug around the perimeter so the methane can migrate there and escape to air there.
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They say there is lead there, but as the travellers won't be there for more than 30 days at a time, that's OK. Lead poisoning is cumulative.
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Do those results suggest they were told what outcomes the council expected of them?
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As for the sacking of Judy Butt but not these two, Judy Butt completed what she was asked to do, and, from what's been written here since her sacking, obviously is respected far more than the Atkinson woman.
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There are sites that don't have the same problems that the two chosen ones have in terms of safety, contamination, flooding, closeness to residents and businesses, health of occupants, .e.t.c., and which would be far more suitable, one of which is on the other side of the A350 between that road and PC World car park, but that was rejected in favour of Marshes end. Why?
The whole thing is being dealt with in an underhand manner. ..... I read the contamination report last night - goodness knows how much money was wasted on that. The consultancy firm was told not to test for asbestos if none could be seen, even though a builder has said he dumped asbestos there. So there could be asbestos dust or small particles. ..... They say there is methane and have a photo of it bubbling in one of their tests pits, and there's an amusing drawing of methane rising under a caravan and a man, but say this will not happen if a trench is dug around the perimeter so the methane can migrate there and escape to air there. ..... They say there is lead there, but as the travellers won't be there for more than 30 days at a time, that's OK. Lead poisoning is cumulative. ...... Do those results suggest they were told what outcomes the council expected of them? ..... As for the sacking of Judy Butt but not these two, Judy Butt completed what she was asked to do, and, from what's been written here since her sacking, obviously is respected far more than the Atkinson woman. ...... There are sites that don't have the same problems that the two chosen ones have in terms of safety, contamination, flooding, closeness to residents and businesses, health of occupants, .e.t.c., and which would be far more suitable, one of which is on the other side of the A350 between that road and PC World car park, but that was rejected in favour of Marshes end. Why? Carolyn43
  • Score: 3

8:26am Tue 18 Mar 14

Jo__Go says...

ashleycross wrote:
Being in Europe is the reason we even have children's play areas left in Poole. They would have all been built over long ago rather than have play equipment on them if we were independent of Europe. And we wouldn't have any maternity leave either. The current unofficial council policy of letting children's play areas be used as gypsy sites has got to stop. The councillors blocking the gypsy site are effectively keeping children out of play areas all summer, as seems to be the accepted norm here in Poole.
This isn't about giving gypsies somewhere to camp,they already have that, its about moving them off the play areas.
And the fact that the B&Q site is right next to a well-used skate park doesn't matter?
So .long as it doesn't affect YOUR kids then, that's OK...
[quote][p][bold]ashleycross[/bold] wrote: Being in Europe is the reason we even have children's play areas left in Poole. They would have all been built over long ago rather than have play equipment on them if we were independent of Europe. And we wouldn't have any maternity leave either. The current unofficial council policy of letting children's play areas be used as gypsy sites has got to stop. The councillors blocking the gypsy site are effectively keeping children out of play areas all summer, as seems to be the accepted norm here in Poole. This isn't about giving gypsies somewhere to camp,they already have that, its about moving them off the play areas.[/p][/quote]And the fact that the B&Q site is right next to a well-used skate park doesn't matter? So .long as it doesn't affect YOUR kids then, that's OK... Jo__Go
  • Score: 11

8:37am Tue 18 Mar 14

Jo__Go says...

Echo 13th February...
"until today the Conservative councillor was also cabinet portfolio holder for public engagement and participation.

Council leader, Cllr Elaine Atkinson, gave her two weeks in which to stand down and when she declined to do so, removed her from the seven-strong cabinet.

“It was a conflict with her portfolio responsibilities,” said Cllr Atkinson, who hand-delivered a letter with her decision to Cllr Butt"

When your ramblings are quoted in a newspaper, it's a bit silly to try and tell completely the opposite story four weeks later. Bad enough being an incompetent leader, but a not very good liar as well??

The Dud should go!
Echo 13th February... "until today the Conservative councillor was also cabinet portfolio holder for public engagement and participation. Council leader, Cllr Elaine Atkinson, gave her two weeks in which to stand down and when she declined to do so, removed her from the seven-strong cabinet. “It was a conflict with her portfolio responsibilities,” said Cllr Atkinson, who hand-delivered a letter with her decision to Cllr Butt" When your ramblings are quoted in a newspaper, it's a bit silly to try and tell completely the opposite story four weeks later. Bad enough being an incompetent leader, but a not very good liar as well?? The Dud should go! Jo__Go
  • Score: 11

8:40am Tue 18 Mar 14

Carolyn43 says...

moleman wrote:
If Judy Butt was responsible for the plan to have temporary stopping sites for travellers in the Poole area, then she had a duty to step down when she found out that the site was in Creekmoor because she could not sell the idea to residents and get re-elected next time. She also couldn't refuse to have the site in her own back yard and then try and sell the idea to other councillors to have a TSP in their ward.
A no-win situation..
As has already been said, Judy Butt was not responsible for the plan to have temporary stopping sites for travellers. She was responsible for bringing together interested parties to discuss and report back to the council. She was not involved in consideration of sites or the selection process - just on the policy. According to the council's constitution her primary responsibility is to her residents - there is nothing which says this responsibility ends when on the cabinet. She has done exactly what she was elected to do. Obviously Atkinson chooses to ignore the constitution.
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Objections to the site have nothing to do with it being in her ward - it would be unsuitable whereever it was. If you read the objections and the planners report, you will see that there are very real concerns that the site is totally unsuitable in terms of road safety, contamination, flooding, health and safety of anyone using the site, e.t.c., but the planning report, while acknowledging the problems, says businesses don't matter, residents don't matter, the safety of road users don't matter, the fact that it will be an eyesore at the gateway to Poole doesn't matter, the health and safety of the travellers don't matter, the fact that the gypsy and traveller community say they won't use it because of those doesn't matter, they'll waste the money on it anyway.
[quote][p][bold]moleman[/bold] wrote: If Judy Butt was responsible for the plan to have temporary stopping sites for travellers in the Poole area, then she had a duty to step down when she found out that the site was in Creekmoor because she could not sell the idea to residents and get re-elected next time. She also couldn't refuse to have the site in her own back yard and then try and sell the idea to other councillors to have a TSP in their ward. A no-win situation..[/p][/quote]As has already been said, Judy Butt was not responsible for the plan to have temporary stopping sites for travellers. She was responsible for bringing together interested parties to discuss and report back to the council. She was not involved in consideration of sites or the selection process - just on the policy. According to the council's constitution her primary responsibility is to her residents - there is nothing which says this responsibility ends when on the cabinet. She has done exactly what she was elected to do. Obviously Atkinson chooses to ignore the constitution. ....... Objections to the site have nothing to do with it being in her ward - it would be unsuitable whereever it was. If you read the objections and the planners report, you will see that there are very real concerns that the site is totally unsuitable in terms of road safety, contamination, flooding, health and safety of anyone using the site, e.t.c., but the planning report, while acknowledging the problems, says businesses don't matter, residents don't matter, the safety of road users don't matter, the fact that it will be an eyesore at the gateway to Poole doesn't matter, the health and safety of the travellers don't matter, the fact that the gypsy and traveller community say they won't use it because of those doesn't matter, they'll waste the money on it anyway. Carolyn43
  • Score: 12

8:57am Tue 18 Mar 14

mimi55 says...

Penn Hill car park was discounted as a Temporary site for being' too close
to the centre ' If the Travellers are no problem to any resident, as
the Council and police would have us believe, why is there a problem with
this??? Are the residents there especially sensitive to the proximity of
Travellers?? (The car park has the capacity, and existing hard standing)
Penn Hill car park was discounted as a Temporary site for being' too close to the centre ' If the Travellers are no problem to any resident, as the Council and police would have us believe, why is there a problem with this??? Are the residents there especially sensitive to the proximity of Travellers?? (The car park has the capacity, and existing hard standing) mimi55
  • Score: 11

9:40am Tue 18 Mar 14

disquiet says...

Given that the following companies & commercial property specialists have all strongly objected to the two proposed TSPs:

Royal Mail (Parcelforce), B&Q, Next, Towergate Group, Forelle Estates (representing WDS, Deverill & other Marshes End businesses), Goadsby Commercial, Cowling & West and Sibbett Gregory.

I would like to ask Cllrs Atkinson, Eades & White whether Poole is truly 'Open for Business'?
Given that the following companies & commercial property specialists have all strongly objected to the two proposed TSPs: Royal Mail (Parcelforce), B&Q, Next, Towergate Group, Forelle Estates (representing WDS, Deverill & other Marshes End businesses), Goadsby Commercial, Cowling & West and Sibbett Gregory. I would like to ask Cllrs Atkinson, Eades & White whether Poole is truly 'Open for Business'? disquiet
  • Score: 17

10:31am Tue 18 Mar 14

apm1954 says...

just get on and run the council ,
just get on and run the council , apm1954
  • Score: -6

10:33am Tue 18 Mar 14

Jo__Go says...

apm1954 wrote:
just get on and run the council ,
...into the ground.
[quote][p][bold]apm1954[/bold] wrote: just get on and run the council ,[/p][/quote]...into the ground. Jo__Go
  • Score: 6

10:35am Tue 18 Mar 14

speedy231278 says...

If there's gas bubbling about under this land, then if a transit camp is built on it, is there the potential to ignite it once occupied?
If there's gas bubbling about under this land, then if a transit camp is built on it, is there the potential to ignite it once occupied? speedy231278
  • Score: 1

1:11pm Tue 18 Mar 14

DorsetFerret says...

mimi55 wrote:
Penn Hill car park was discounted as a Temporary site for being' too close
to the centre ' If the Travellers are no problem to any resident, as
the Council and police would have us believe, why is there a problem with
this??? Are the residents there especially sensitive to the proximity of
Travellers?? (The car park has the capacity, and existing hard standing)
Councillor Eades, or The Mayor of Poole lives in Parkstone and represents Branksome (another favoured cosultants choice). A clue there perhaps?
[quote][p][bold]mimi55[/bold] wrote: Penn Hill car park was discounted as a Temporary site for being' too close to the centre ' If the Travellers are no problem to any resident, as the Council and police would have us believe, why is there a problem with this??? Are the residents there especially sensitive to the proximity of Travellers?? (The car park has the capacity, and existing hard standing)[/p][/quote]Councillor Eades, or The Mayor of Poole lives in Parkstone and represents Branksome (another favoured cosultants choice). A clue there perhaps? DorsetFerret
  • Score: 9

1:37pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Mad Karew says...

speedy231278 wrote:
If there's gas bubbling about under this land, then if a transit camp is built on it, is there the potential to ignite it once occupied?
Only if someone lights a cooking fire - now gypsies wouldn't do that would they?
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: If there's gas bubbling about under this land, then if a transit camp is built on it, is there the potential to ignite it once occupied?[/p][/quote]Only if someone lights a cooking fire - now gypsies wouldn't do that would they? Mad Karew
  • Score: 1

2:09pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Jeff in Parkstone says...

From Carolyn43 "According to the council's constitution her (Cllr Butt) primary responsibility is to her residents - there is nothing which says this responsibility ends when on the cabinet"

The key point - if not how can we claim to have representative democracy ?
From Carolyn43 "According to the council's constitution her (Cllr Butt) primary responsibility is to her residents - there is nothing which says this responsibility ends when on the cabinet" The key point - if not how can we claim to have representative democracy ? Jeff in Parkstone
  • Score: 3

3:50pm Tue 18 Mar 14

disquiet says...

disquiet wrote:
Given that the following companies & commercial property specialists have all strongly objected to the two proposed TSPs:

Royal Mail (Parcelforce), B&Q, Next, Towergate Group, Forelle Estates (representing WDS, Deverill & other Marshes End businesses), Goadsby Commercial, Cowling & West and Sibbett Gregory.

I would like to ask Cllrs Atkinson, Eades & White whether Poole is truly 'Open for Business'?
Add Standard Life Insurance to this list too!

Given the obvious strength of feeling against these proposals from local businesses I do hope, if the proposals were to go ahead, that these businesses (either collectively or individually) take things further.

Would the next step be Judicial review / High Court?
[quote][p][bold]disquiet[/bold] wrote: Given that the following companies & commercial property specialists have all strongly objected to the two proposed TSPs: Royal Mail (Parcelforce), B&Q, Next, Towergate Group, Forelle Estates (representing WDS, Deverill & other Marshes End businesses), Goadsby Commercial, Cowling & West and Sibbett Gregory. I would like to ask Cllrs Atkinson, Eades & White whether Poole is truly 'Open for Business'?[/p][/quote]Add Standard Life Insurance to this list too! Given the obvious strength of feeling against these proposals from local businesses I do hope, if the proposals were to go ahead, that these businesses (either collectively or individually) take things further. Would the next step be Judicial review / High Court? disquiet
  • Score: 8

3:55pm Tue 18 Mar 14

cunone says...

The Conservatives have completely lost the plot on this issue. Councillors defecting to UKIP are the probable reason why the Oakdale members are allowed to oppose the scheme.
Atkinson has such inflated ideas about herself that she refused to attend a public meeting on the issue at Creekmoor. Her reason she claims the police could not guarantee her safety. Robert Syms MP attended along with the Police Commissioner a local police inspector and the local bobby. I am sure they did not feel threatened
Frankly Mrs Atkinson few people in this town like you or care about you the only thing threatening you is the ballot box
The Conservatives have completely lost the plot on this issue. Councillors defecting to UKIP are the probable reason why the Oakdale members are allowed to oppose the scheme. Atkinson has such inflated ideas about herself that she refused to attend a public meeting on the issue at Creekmoor. Her reason she claims the police could not guarantee her safety. Robert Syms MP attended along with the Police Commissioner a local police inspector and the local bobby. I am sure they did not feel threatened Frankly Mrs Atkinson few people in this town like you or care about you the only thing threatening you is the ballot box cunone
  • Score: 6

4:12pm Tue 18 Mar 14

ashleycross says...

Jo__Go wrote:
ashleycross wrote:
Being in Europe is the reason we even have children's play areas left in Poole. They would have all been built over long ago rather than have play equipment on them if we were independent of Europe. And we wouldn't have any maternity leave either. The current unofficial council policy of letting children's play areas be used as gypsy sites has got to stop. The councillors blocking the gypsy site are effectively keeping children out of play areas all summer, as seems to be the accepted norm here in Poole.
This isn't about giving gypsies somewhere to camp,they already have that, its about moving them off the play areas.
And the fact that the B&Q site is right next to a well-used skate park doesn't matter?
So .long as it doesn't affect YOUR kids then, that's OK...
The existing sites used for temporary sites in Poole include Baiter which has a skate park on it as well.
[quote][p][bold]Jo__Go[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ashleycross[/bold] wrote: Being in Europe is the reason we even have children's play areas left in Poole. They would have all been built over long ago rather than have play equipment on them if we were independent of Europe. And we wouldn't have any maternity leave either. The current unofficial council policy of letting children's play areas be used as gypsy sites has got to stop. The councillors blocking the gypsy site are effectively keeping children out of play areas all summer, as seems to be the accepted norm here in Poole. This isn't about giving gypsies somewhere to camp,they already have that, its about moving them off the play areas.[/p][/quote]And the fact that the B&Q site is right next to a well-used skate park doesn't matter? So .long as it doesn't affect YOUR kids then, that's OK...[/p][/quote]The existing sites used for temporary sites in Poole include Baiter which has a skate park on it as well. ashleycross
  • Score: -5

4:20pm Tue 18 Mar 14

cunone says...

speedy231278 wrote:
If there's gas bubbling about under this land, then if a transit camp is built on it, is there the potential to ignite it once occupied?
yes BOOOOOOMMMMM and the whole problem has gone
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: If there's gas bubbling about under this land, then if a transit camp is built on it, is there the potential to ignite it once occupied?[/p][/quote]yes BOOOOOOMMMMM and the whole problem has gone cunone
  • Score: 1

4:22pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Jo__Go says...

And that makes it all right to prejudice the safety of the kids that use the one by B&Q??
And that makes it all right to prejudice the safety of the kids that use the one by B&Q?? Jo__Go
  • Score: 1

6:29pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Carolyn43 says...

cunone wrote:
The Conservatives have completely lost the plot on this issue. Councillors defecting to UKIP are the probable reason why the Oakdale members are allowed to oppose the scheme.
Atkinson has such inflated ideas about herself that she refused to attend a public meeting on the issue at Creekmoor. Her reason she claims the police could not guarantee her safety. Robert Syms MP attended along with the Police Commissioner a local police inspector and the local bobby. I am sure they did not feel threatened
Frankly Mrs Atkinson few people in this town like you or care about you the only thing threatening you is the ballot box
What? Just who does she think she is that she needs police protection? And does she think that the residents of Creekmoor are savages and would set upon her? That really does suggest she's paranoid and with such an attitude has no business even being on the council, let alone dictating how it will be run, and what will and will not happen in Poole.
[quote][p][bold]cunone[/bold] wrote: The Conservatives have completely lost the plot on this issue. Councillors defecting to UKIP are the probable reason why the Oakdale members are allowed to oppose the scheme. Atkinson has such inflated ideas about herself that she refused to attend a public meeting on the issue at Creekmoor. Her reason she claims the police could not guarantee her safety. Robert Syms MP attended along with the Police Commissioner a local police inspector and the local bobby. I am sure they did not feel threatened Frankly Mrs Atkinson few people in this town like you or care about you the only thing threatening you is the ballot box[/p][/quote]What? Just who does she think she is that she needs police protection? And does she think that the residents of Creekmoor are savages and would set upon her? That really does suggest she's paranoid and with such an attitude has no business even being on the council, let alone dictating how it will be run, and what will and will not happen in Poole. Carolyn43
  • Score: 6

7:38pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Hobad1 says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
Anyone apposed to travelers should look to UKIP where they will find support .And more importantly no Elaine Atkinson playing our glorious leader
Good point. But don't worry....the way things are going Atkinson wont be leader of the council for too much longer :) Nor will any tory.
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Anyone apposed to travelers should look to UKIP where they will find support .And more importantly no Elaine Atkinson playing our glorious leader[/p][/quote]Good point. But don't worry....the way things are going Atkinson wont be leader of the council for too much longer :) Nor will any tory. Hobad1
  • Score: 3

11:23pm Tue 18 Mar 14

RM says...

Could someone explain to me why with 19 Tory Cllrs, 18 Lib Dems 1 UKIP & 4 Poole People there are only Tory Cllrs in the ruling junta? If the Cabinet is meant to represent the whole of Poole shouldn't there be other party Cllrs there too?
Could someone explain to me why with 19 Tory Cllrs, 18 Lib Dems 1 UKIP & 4 Poole People there are only Tory Cllrs in the ruling junta? If the Cabinet is meant to represent the whole of Poole shouldn't there be other party Cllrs there too? RM
  • Score: 1

2:10am Wed 19 Mar 14

guisselle says...

Swing to the left and swing to the right it don't seem right!
Swing to the left and swing to the right it don't seem right! guisselle
  • Score: 1

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