"Enough is enough" - frustrated residents call on Christchurch council to honour Druitt Gardens covenant

"Enough is enough" - frustrated residents call on council to honour Druitt Gardens covenant

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"Enough is enough."

That was the message from frustrated residents to councillors at Christchurch over continuing issues with Druitt Gardens.

More than 50 residents gathered at the Civic Offices for a meeting of the full council on Tuesday night, with two petitions presented over the protected land in the town centre.

Elliot Marx, a campaigner for Druitt Hall and Druitt Gardens called for the council to "listen to the people of Christchurch" and abide by the covenant put on the gardens by Charlotte Druitt, who bequeathed them to Dorset County Council in 1946.

She said "significant damage" had already been done to the area, intended by the benefactor to be a garden of rest and bird sanctuary for the people of Christchurch.

The felling of four protected trees earlier this month had already breached the covenant, she told the meeting.

In a speech to members before presenting her 184-signature petition, Ms Marx said: "In my honestly held opinion, I believe that views expressed by the leader of the council (Cllr Ray Nottage) in October 2011 were widely known and would appear to have influenced council attitudes to both Druitt Hall and the Gardens."

She detailed a number of incidents but was interrupted by the Mayor, Cllr John Lofts, who told her to finish her speech.

He was shouted down by residents, urging for her to be allowed to continue.

Finishing her speech to applause from the public gallery she said: "Like the signatories of this petition, I want to see the covenants honoured by a council which listens to people."

Another petition was presented by resident Bob McNair, supported by Christchurch Labour Party, calling for the council to instruct developers of the Cornfactor site to move the large hoardings surrounding their compound next to Druitt Gardens.

The area has been sealed off and one access route from Wick Lane car park blocked.

Both petitions will be passed to the community services committee for their consideration.

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9:15pm Tue 25 Feb 14

kalebmoledirt says...

A tree with a damaged root takes some time to die so standbye for more casualties of reckless excavation.
A tree with a damaged root takes some time to die so standbye for more casualties of reckless excavation. kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 16

9:28pm Tue 25 Feb 14

brian74 says...

well done Elliot Marx with her speech.

there is also a petition on e-petition running.

if you agree that we need an independent inquiry then PLEASE sign this government petition and let as many people know as possible.

http://epetitions.di
rect.gov.uk/petition
s/60678

thanks
well done Elliot Marx with her speech. there is also a petition on e-petition running. if you agree that we need an independent inquiry then PLEASE sign this government petition and let as many people know as possible. http://epetitions.di rect.gov.uk/petition s/60678 thanks brian74
  • Score: 25

10:28pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Crank says...

A courageous contribution from Elliot, but absolutely nothing can be done to recover our lost woodland habitat - let alone the demolished silk stocking factory which stood for 250 years or so where a huge block of flats will now rise, looming over Druitt Gardens like a hideous, triumphant insult to the homeless birds, bees, bats, butterflies and wildflowers. Utter sacrilegious ecocide by Christchurch Borough Council's councillors, officers, and their admirers, the developers. Gone, gone. We should hold a public funeral for Druitt Gardens.
A courageous contribution from Elliot, but absolutely nothing can be done to recover our lost woodland habitat - let alone the demolished silk stocking factory which stood for 250 years or so where a huge block of flats will now rise, looming over Druitt Gardens like a hideous, triumphant insult to the homeless birds, bees, bats, butterflies and wildflowers. Utter sacrilegious ecocide by Christchurch Borough Council's councillors, officers, and their admirers, the developers. Gone, gone. We should hold a public funeral for Druitt Gardens. Crank
  • Score: 29

11:04pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Yankee1 says...

Good luck.

You will need it, with this lot.
Good luck. You will need it, with this lot. Yankee1
  • Score: 27

6:40am Wed 26 Feb 14

Phixer says...

Crank wrote:
A courageous contribution from Elliot, but absolutely nothing can be done to recover our lost woodland habitat - let alone the demolished silk stocking factory which stood for 250 years or so where a huge block of flats will now rise, looming over Druitt Gardens like a hideous, triumphant insult to the homeless birds, bees, bats, butterflies and wildflowers. Utter sacrilegious ecocide by Christchurch Borough Council's councillors, officers, and their admirers, the developers. Gone, gone. We should hold a public funeral for Druitt Gardens.
Whilst I might sympathise with the local situation, it is this tree-hugging mentality of preventing a proper bypass which is causing traffic bedlam around Christchurch. But I expect that you are not affected by that.
[quote][p][bold]Crank[/bold] wrote: A courageous contribution from Elliot, but absolutely nothing can be done to recover our lost woodland habitat - let alone the demolished silk stocking factory which stood for 250 years or so where a huge block of flats will now rise, looming over Druitt Gardens like a hideous, triumphant insult to the homeless birds, bees, bats, butterflies and wildflowers. Utter sacrilegious ecocide by Christchurch Borough Council's councillors, officers, and their admirers, the developers. Gone, gone. We should hold a public funeral for Druitt Gardens.[/p][/quote]Whilst I might sympathise with the local situation, it is this tree-hugging mentality of preventing a proper bypass which is causing traffic bedlam around Christchurch. But I expect that you are not affected by that. Phixer
  • Score: -16

7:33am Wed 26 Feb 14

skydriver says...

When oh when will this council listen, quite simply they do not and will not, until, that is it comes to election time, then they will come begging telling us how sorry they all were for the all the problems they created and for not listening to the people. Well to the leader, not to mention the totally useless mayor, your have had your day,you all have caused havoc in our town now it's time for you all to leave office, better still leave town. For all the articles in the Echo non of them ever praise any member of the council. So what does this tell us, ..........Just who do these people think they are?
When oh when will this council listen, quite simply they do not and will not, until, that is it comes to election time, then they will come begging telling us how sorry they all were for the all the problems they created and for not listening to the people. Well to the leader, not to mention the totally useless mayor, your have had your day,you all have caused havoc in our town now it's time for you all to leave office, better still leave town. For all the articles in the Echo non of them ever praise any member of the council. So what does this tell us, ..........Just who do these people think they are? skydriver
  • Score: 24

7:55am Wed 26 Feb 14

Emmajohnson says...

Well said Elliot !!! And what a rude mayor. Enough is enough. Listen to the people
Well said Elliot !!! And what a rude mayor. Enough is enough. Listen to the people Emmajohnson
  • Score: 25

8:24am Wed 26 Feb 14

FrogKiss says...

This wasn't just about the trees. It's about the whole borough and the council not listening, Supermarkets, bypass, allotments, school placements, hospitals, fairmile traders, town centre traders, parking, highcliffe traders, state of Stoney lane and bridge street, beach huts, sandbags, ....Listen to the People. Well done Elliott ! Shame on you - you octogenarian Lofts!
This wasn't just about the trees. It's about the whole borough and the council not listening, Supermarkets, bypass, allotments, school placements, hospitals, fairmile traders, town centre traders, parking, highcliffe traders, state of Stoney lane and bridge street, beach huts, sandbags, ....Listen to the People. Well done Elliott ! Shame on you - you octogenarian Lofts! FrogKiss
  • Score: 25

8:42am Wed 26 Feb 14

O'Really says...

Bravo Elliot!
Bravo Elliot! O'Really
  • Score: 14

12:04pm Wed 26 Feb 14

SurfReefFunTime says...

Who gives a dam? Not many people. This is the voice of a few vocal people. Fair enough for speaking out though.

We have to many retirement flats being built! Like this one....how many more? How many more second home owners...disgusting! How about some homes for people who can't afford second homes! For example the young people of the town. How about stopping more and more supermarkets and providing some decent leisure facilities - not the run down hut at 2rm.

I very much doubt this vocal bunch which make much dent in the local elections. Nothing has changed in xchurch for years. I doubt a new bunch would change much either. Local Government is there for a reason.

Do remember as well there are two councils not one. Christchurch Borough Council and Dorset County Council both have different functions. Stop voting cllrs in and vote someone in next time if you dont like it? I doubt as i said before any change will happen.

See if there are any decent opposition cllrs who can do some proper canvassing rather than just posting letters through doors.
Who gives a dam? Not many people. This is the voice of a few vocal people. Fair enough for speaking out though. We have to many retirement flats being built! Like this one....how many more? How many more second home owners...disgusting! How about some homes for people who can't afford second homes! For example the young people of the town. How about stopping more and more supermarkets and providing some decent leisure facilities - not the run down hut at 2rm. I very much doubt this vocal bunch which make much dent in the local elections. Nothing has changed in xchurch for years. I doubt a new bunch would change much either. Local Government is there for a reason. Do remember as well there are two councils not one. Christchurch Borough Council and Dorset County Council both have different functions. Stop voting cllrs in and vote someone in next time if you dont like it? I doubt as i said before any change will happen. See if there are any decent opposition cllrs who can do some proper canvassing rather than just posting letters through doors. SurfReefFunTime
  • Score: 3

1:21pm Wed 26 Feb 14

skydriver says...

Emmajohnson wrote:
Well said Elliot !!! And what a rude mayor. Enough is enough. Listen to the people
I agree the mayor is ignorant , and not worthy to hold such a position. I think they all have forgotten just who they are.!
[quote][p][bold]Emmajohnson[/bold] wrote: Well said Elliot !!! And what a rude mayor. Enough is enough. Listen to the people[/p][/quote]I agree the mayor is ignorant , and not worthy to hold such a position. I think they all have forgotten just who they are.! skydriver
  • Score: 14

1:46pm Wed 26 Feb 14

agp1337 says...

skydriver wrote:
Emmajohnson wrote:
Well said Elliot !!! And what a rude mayor. Enough is enough. Listen to the people
I agree the mayor is ignorant , and not worthy to hold such a position. I think they all have forgotten just who they are.!
The Mayor was in a difficult position last night and did very well under the circumstances. To be fair to everyone there is a fixed time for each speaker, and the points have to be made within that time. At the end of that time the speaker HAS to bring it to a close, otherwise some speakers might go on for hours. The time is the same for everyone, and the Mayor COULD not ignore that: no discretion is allowed. That is as it should be. Having said that, however, Elliot spoke well and received applause from me, as well as most of others there.
[quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Emmajohnson[/bold] wrote: Well said Elliot !!! And what a rude mayor. Enough is enough. Listen to the people[/p][/quote]I agree the mayor is ignorant , and not worthy to hold such a position. I think they all have forgotten just who they are.![/p][/quote]The Mayor was in a difficult position last night and did very well under the circumstances. To be fair to everyone there is a fixed time for each speaker, and the points have to be made within that time. At the end of that time the speaker HAS to bring it to a close, otherwise some speakers might go on for hours. The time is the same for everyone, and the Mayor COULD not ignore that: no discretion is allowed. That is as it should be. Having said that, however, Elliot spoke well and received applause from me, as well as most of others there. agp1337
  • Score: 3

1:56pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Justin Black says...

Christchurch has 24 elected Councillors of which 22 belong to the Conservative Group. Of those 22 Conservative Councillors you will find that only a few, maybe four or five do what they were elected to do, The rest do what they are told to do by the Leader of the Council. Unfortunately Christchurch is full of die hard Tories which means that you could effectively dress a pig or a monkey in blue and put them up for election and they would secure seats on the council, and this is why we are in this situation in Christchurch. The Councillors don't have to care about the people who elected them or indeed care about the views of the constituents who elected them, because they know they will get re-elected time and time again because they are Tories. The current Leader and his group will continue to decimate this beautiful town because they know that no matter how upset the public are with them they will still get re-elected in 2015.

Do we now have the first Conservative Communists?
Christchurch has 24 elected Councillors of which 22 belong to the Conservative Group. Of those 22 Conservative Councillors you will find that only a few, maybe four or five do what they were elected to do, The rest do what they are told to do by the Leader of the Council. Unfortunately Christchurch is full of die hard Tories which means that you could effectively dress a pig or a monkey in blue and put them up for election and they would secure seats on the council, and this is why we are in this situation in Christchurch. The Councillors don't have to care about the people who elected them or indeed care about the views of the constituents who elected them, because they know they will get re-elected time and time again because they are Tories. The current Leader and his group will continue to decimate this beautiful town because they know that no matter how upset the public are with them they will still get re-elected in 2015. Do we now have the first Conservative Communists? Justin Black
  • Score: 6

2:26pm Wed 26 Feb 14

Crank says...

Justin Black wrote:
Christchurch has 24 elected Councillors of which 22 belong to the Conservative Group. Of those 22 Conservative Councillors you will find that only a few, maybe four or five do what they were elected to do, The rest do what they are told to do by the Leader of the Council. Unfortunately Christchurch is full of die hard Tories which means that you could effectively dress a pig or a monkey in blue and put them up for election and they would secure seats on the council, and this is why we are in this situation in Christchurch. The Councillors don't have to care about the people who elected them or indeed care about the views of the constituents who elected them, because they know they will get re-elected time and time again because they are Tories. The current Leader and his group will continue to decimate this beautiful town because they know that no matter how upset the public are with them they will still get re-elected in 2015.

Do we now have the first Conservative Communists?
I'm not so sure. UKIP is snapping at their heels and only failed to get a seat by 90 votes last time. I'd have agreed with you entirely beforehand, but the political climate is heading for a much-needed upset.
[quote][p][bold]Justin Black[/bold] wrote: Christchurch has 24 elected Councillors of which 22 belong to the Conservative Group. Of those 22 Conservative Councillors you will find that only a few, maybe four or five do what they were elected to do, The rest do what they are told to do by the Leader of the Council. Unfortunately Christchurch is full of die hard Tories which means that you could effectively dress a pig or a monkey in blue and put them up for election and they would secure seats on the council, and this is why we are in this situation in Christchurch. The Councillors don't have to care about the people who elected them or indeed care about the views of the constituents who elected them, because they know they will get re-elected time and time again because they are Tories. The current Leader and his group will continue to decimate this beautiful town because they know that no matter how upset the public are with them they will still get re-elected in 2015. Do we now have the first Conservative Communists?[/p][/quote]I'm not so sure. UKIP is snapping at their heels and only failed to get a seat by 90 votes last time. I'd have agreed with you entirely beforehand, but the political climate is heading for a much-needed upset. Crank
  • Score: 6

2:39pm Wed 26 Feb 14

skydriver says...

agp1337 wrote:
skydriver wrote:
Emmajohnson wrote:
Well said Elliot !!! And what a rude mayor. Enough is enough. Listen to the people
I agree the mayor is ignorant , and not worthy to hold such a position. I think they all have forgotten just who they are.!
The Mayor was in a difficult position last night and did very well under the circumstances. To be fair to everyone there is a fixed time for each speaker, and the points have to be made within that time. At the end of that time the speaker HAS to bring it to a close, otherwise some speakers might go on for hours. The time is the same for everyone, and the Mayor COULD not ignore that: no discretion is allowed. That is as it should be. Having said that, however, Elliot spoke well and received applause from me, as well as most of others there.
Er just a moment why should the time be limited ? If the public have something to say let it be said, after all the rubbish doled out by the councillors theory don't have a time limit.
Another item due for changing.time limit indeed, this is the 21 century .
[quote][p][bold]agp1337[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Emmajohnson[/bold] wrote: Well said Elliot !!! And what a rude mayor. Enough is enough. Listen to the people[/p][/quote]I agree the mayor is ignorant , and not worthy to hold such a position. I think they all have forgotten just who they are.![/p][/quote]The Mayor was in a difficult position last night and did very well under the circumstances. To be fair to everyone there is a fixed time for each speaker, and the points have to be made within that time. At the end of that time the speaker HAS to bring it to a close, otherwise some speakers might go on for hours. The time is the same for everyone, and the Mayor COULD not ignore that: no discretion is allowed. That is as it should be. Having said that, however, Elliot spoke well and received applause from me, as well as most of others there.[/p][/quote]Er just a moment why should the time be limited ? If the public have something to say let it be said, after all the rubbish doled out by the councillors theory don't have a time limit. Another item due for changing.time limit indeed, this is the 21 century . skydriver
  • Score: 4

5:11pm Wed 26 Feb 14

SurfReefFunTime says...

Instead of blubbering on a time limit is in place to stop people going on and on. Fair enough.

UKIP did well in the Dorset CC elections. Heel snapping is indeed happening. I forsee a few seats going next year to UKIP. However a hung council is never a good thing. Decisions will never get made. Lets see if they can do a decent job in their campaign for election.
Instead of blubbering on a time limit is in place to stop people going on and on. Fair enough. UKIP did well in the Dorset CC elections. Heel snapping is indeed happening. I forsee a few seats going next year to UKIP. However a hung council is never a good thing. Decisions will never get made. Lets see if they can do a decent job in their campaign for election. SurfReefFunTime
  • Score: 4

5:34pm Wed 26 Feb 14

mytown1 says...

If you look at the picture you will see a window in the rear in the council offices. The Leader of the Council chose to draw the curtains on the crowd gathered outside. Most councils would wish to engage with the public when a substantial number are gathered especially when one of the banners says "listen to the people", but no true to form councillors draw the curtains, residents do not exist, forget their rights and carry on as normal. Surely even these councillors could understand the message that was being put across - that they too have a right to be heard!.
If you look at the picture you will see a window in the rear in the council offices. The Leader of the Council chose to draw the curtains on the crowd gathered outside. Most councils would wish to engage with the public when a substantial number are gathered especially when one of the banners says "listen to the people", but no true to form councillors draw the curtains, residents do not exist, forget their rights and carry on as normal. Surely even these councillors could understand the message that was being put across - that they too have a right to be heard!. mytown1
  • Score: 9

6:37pm Wed 26 Feb 14

agp1337 says...

mytown1 wrote:
If you look at the picture you will see a window in the rear in the council offices. The Leader of the Council chose to draw the curtains on the crowd gathered outside. Most councils would wish to engage with the public when a substantial number are gathered especially when one of the banners says "listen to the people", but no true to form councillors draw the curtains, residents do not exist, forget their rights and carry on as normal. Surely even these councillors could understand the message that was being put across - that they too have a right to be heard!.
It was getting dark! I draw my curtains at around 5-6pm. Nothing sinister in it. There was also standing room inside if more wanted to attend.
[quote][p][bold]mytown1[/bold] wrote: If you look at the picture you will see a window in the rear in the council offices. The Leader of the Council chose to draw the curtains on the crowd gathered outside. Most councils would wish to engage with the public when a substantial number are gathered especially when one of the banners says "listen to the people", but no true to form councillors draw the curtains, residents do not exist, forget their rights and carry on as normal. Surely even these councillors could understand the message that was being put across - that they too have a right to be heard!.[/p][/quote]It was getting dark! I draw my curtains at around 5-6pm. Nothing sinister in it. There was also standing room inside if more wanted to attend. agp1337
  • Score: -3

7:41pm Wed 26 Feb 14

localratepayer says...

agp1337 says..
It was getting dark! I draw my curtains at around 5-6pm. Nothing sinister in it. There was also standing room inside if more wanted to attend.

Obviously agp1337 didn't see the fury on Nottage's face when he snatched the curtains across to the jeers of the crowd! And did he attempt to curtail Elliot's speech by urging the mayor to close it down ? He's having a really bad week --time to spend more time on his boat?
agp1337 says.. It was getting dark! I draw my curtains at around 5-6pm. Nothing sinister in it. There was also standing room inside if more wanted to attend. Obviously agp1337 didn't see the fury on Nottage's face when he snatched the curtains across to the jeers of the crowd! And did he attempt to curtail Elliot's speech by urging the mayor to close it down ? He's having a really bad week --time to spend more time on his boat? localratepayer
  • Score: 4

8:53pm Wed 26 Feb 14

agp1337 says...

localratepayer wrote:
agp1337 says..
It was getting dark! I draw my curtains at around 5-6pm. Nothing sinister in it. There was also standing room inside if more wanted to attend.

Obviously agp1337 didn't see the fury on Nottage's face when he snatched the curtains across to the jeers of the crowd! And did he attempt to curtail Elliot's speech by urging the mayor to close it down ? He's having a really bad week --time to spend more time on his boat?
No, I missed that one! He does seem exceptionally inept and extraordinarily confrontational. The curtains should have been closed, but he was the ONE person who shouldn't have done it; and he didn't understand that. I did, however, witness his expression of (totally innocent, of course!) uncomprehending anger during Elliot's speech. He thinks he's done nothing wrong, and that's his problem. Just look at his blog: he never says sorry, or that he ever made a bad decision. And apparently his running of the (sorry, his) Council has been hunky-dory, according to the latest post there!
[quote][p][bold]localratepayer[/bold] wrote: agp1337 says.. It was getting dark! I draw my curtains at around 5-6pm. Nothing sinister in it. There was also standing room inside if more wanted to attend. Obviously agp1337 didn't see the fury on Nottage's face when he snatched the curtains across to the jeers of the crowd! And did he attempt to curtail Elliot's speech by urging the mayor to close it down ? He's having a really bad week --time to spend more time on his boat?[/p][/quote]No, I missed that one! He does seem exceptionally inept and extraordinarily confrontational. The curtains should have been closed, but he was the ONE person who shouldn't have done it; and he didn't understand that. I did, however, witness his expression of (totally innocent, of course!) uncomprehending anger during Elliot's speech. He thinks he's done nothing wrong, and that's his problem. Just look at his blog: he never says sorry, or that he ever made a bad decision. And apparently his running of the (sorry, his) Council has been hunky-dory, according to the latest post there! agp1337
  • Score: 6

2:46pm Thu 27 Feb 14

MissIngbirds says...

I would just like to thank Elliot Marx for her tireless campaigning on this issue.

The fact that Councillors interrupted her speech is symbolic of the contempt they have shown to local residents over the issue of Druitt Gardens.

I hope this will not be forgotten when it comes to voting in local elections.
I would just like to thank Elliot Marx for her tireless campaigning on this issue. The fact that Councillors interrupted her speech is symbolic of the contempt they have shown to local residents over the issue of Druitt Gardens. I hope this will not be forgotten when it comes to voting in local elections. MissIngbirds
  • Score: 13

7:36pm Thu 27 Feb 14

xchresident says...

In fairness I see that the Mayor should encourage Petition presenters to finish within 5 minutes, and it appears the Petitioner ove-ran by some 18 seconde (?).

Octagenarian councillors are not the issure here surely-- it is the apparent lack of democracy and transparency ot this Council?
In fairness I see that the Mayor should encourage Petition presenters to finish within 5 minutes, and it appears the Petitioner ove-ran by some 18 seconde (?). Octagenarian councillors are not the issure here surely-- it is the apparent lack of democracy and transparency ot this Council? xchresident
  • Score: 4

6:51pm Fri 28 Feb 14

brian74 says...

PLEASE DON'T FORGET - there is also a petition on e-petition running.

if you agree that we need an independent inquiry then PLEASE sign this government petition and let as many people know as possible.

http://epetitions.di
rect.gov.uk/petition
s/60678

thanks
PLEASE DON'T FORGET - there is also a petition on e-petition running. if you agree that we need an independent inquiry then PLEASE sign this government petition and let as many people know as possible. http://epetitions.di rect.gov.uk/petition s/60678 thanks brian74
  • Score: 0

6:53pm Fri 28 Feb 14

brian74 says...

http://epetitions.di
rect.gov.uk/petition
s/60678


http://epetitions.di

rect.gov.uk/petition

s/60678
http://epetitions.di rect.gov.uk/petition s/60678 http://epetitions.di rect.gov.uk/petition s/60678 brian74
  • Score: -1

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