Brave shop owner grabbed sawn-off shotgun from robber and chased him down the street

Bournemouth Echo: COURAGE: Michael Guldede, at Bingham Stores in Bournemouth COURAGE: Michael Guldede, at Bingham Stores in Bournemouth

A BRAVE shop boss grabbed a sawn-off shotgun from a robber before chasing him down the street and wrestling him to the ground.

Michael Guldede saw red when a raider struck him in the face with the butt of the gun and demanded cash.

Without thought for his own safety he lunged across the counter to grab the weapon and gave chase down Alma Road in Bournemouth.

Passers-by initially thought Mr Guldede was the armed robber but called police when he explained what had happened.

The drama unfolded at 9.50pm on Sunday when a man wearing a balaclava entered Bingham Stores and made threats.

“He hit me with the gun near my eyebrow and asked for money” said Mr Guldede.

“Then he started getting greedy and asked for more so I just grabbed the gun. I didn’t think about what I was doing and I’d chased him half way down the road before I realised I was still holding the gun.

“I threw it on the ground before I jumped on him and took him down.

“I had to shout at the people around me to explain that he had tried to rob me.”

Mr Guldede’s father, Mehmet, said: “It could have been a lot more serious but I understand why he did it.

“We work long hours so when someone comes in and tries to take the money it makes us angry.”

And friend Ismail Gunduz added: “He made a mistake when he hit him with the gun.”

Mr Guldede said all the cash has been recovered and added: “He kept asking me to let him go and said he would give the money back – I told him I was having the money back anyway.”

Detective Sergeant Andy Bell of Bournemouth CID said: “I am keen to speak to anyone who witnessed people running down the road at the time of this incident or the alleged robbery itself.

“I urge anyone with information to contact me in the strictest confidence."

Anyone with information is asked to call Dorset Police on 101 or the free and anonymous Crimestoppers line on 0800 555 111.

Mobile phone tariffs may apply.

A 50-year-old man, of no fixed address, has been arrested and is helping police with their inquiries.

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6:16am Tue 18 Feb 14

manyogie says...

Good on you Mr!
Good on you Mr! manyogie

8:28am Tue 18 Feb 14

PokesdownMark says...

Top man Michael! One less scumbag on the streets. For a while. Hopefully.
Top man Michael! One less scumbag on the streets. For a while. Hopefully. PokesdownMark

8:29am Tue 18 Feb 14

B.F.G says...

Hero! well done, let's hope the courts dish out some real justice to the vermin.
Hero! well done, let's hope the courts dish out some real justice to the vermin. B.F.G

8:32am Tue 18 Feb 14

bosco1 says...

Lets hope if taken to court he does not appear before Judge Wiggs as we all know what the outcome will be >!! ?
Lets hope if taken to court he does not appear before Judge Wiggs as we all know what the outcome will be >!! ? bosco1

8:50am Tue 18 Feb 14

smhinto says...

Well done that man. He should have shoved both barrells up his 'departure lounge' and squeezed the trigger, assuming the weapon was not a replica of course.
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Then of course knowing Bournemouth Police it is a wonder that the shop owner was not arrested for wrestling the assailant to the ground on some trumped up charge of adssault. It would not surprise me.
Well done that man. He should have shoved both barrells up his 'departure lounge' and squeezed the trigger, assuming the weapon was not a replica of course. . Then of course knowing Bournemouth Police it is a wonder that the shop owner was not arrested for wrestling the assailant to the ground on some trumped up charge of adssault. It would not surprise me. smhinto

9:28am Tue 18 Feb 14

Chris the plumber says...

smhinto wrote:
Well done that man. He should have shoved both barrells up his 'departure lounge' and squeezed the trigger, assuming the weapon was not a replica of course.
.
Then of course knowing Bournemouth Police it is a wonder that the shop owner was not arrested for wrestling the assailant to the ground on some trumped up charge of adssault. It would not surprise me.
not sure I like your type of justice if it was a replica the alleged robber
would know that and pulling the trigger would have had no effect.............T
he echo seem convinced of this man guilt ,the police on the other hand seem less sure as the comments from DS A Bell would indicate.
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: Well done that man. He should have shoved both barrells up his 'departure lounge' and squeezed the trigger, assuming the weapon was not a replica of course. . Then of course knowing Bournemouth Police it is a wonder that the shop owner was not arrested for wrestling the assailant to the ground on some trumped up charge of adssault. It would not surprise me.[/p][/quote]not sure I like your type of justice if it was a replica the alleged robber would know that and pulling the trigger would have had no effect.............T he echo seem convinced of this man guilt ,the police on the other hand seem less sure as the comments from DS A Bell would indicate. Chris the plumber

9:44am Tue 18 Feb 14

mudefordguy says...

Poor quality writing / proof reading again - I spotted two typos from just a skim-read:

"cash ahs been"

"n A 50-year-old"
Poor quality writing / proof reading again - I spotted two typos from just a skim-read: "cash ahs been" "n A 50-year-old" mudefordguy

10:11am Tue 18 Feb 14

BIGTONE says...

He might have been brave but was stupid. If the gun was real and gone off....game over. If it was a replica he could have had a knife as a plan B.
It's not worth losing your life for.
The shop insurance (assuming they have some) would have covered them in a robbery situation.
He might have been brave but was stupid. If the gun was real and gone off....game over. If it was a replica he could have had a knife as a plan B. It's not worth losing your life for. The shop insurance (assuming they have some) would have covered them in a robbery situation. BIGTONE

10:13am Tue 18 Feb 14

Controversial But True says...

mudefordguy wrote:
Poor quality writing / proof reading again - I spotted two typos from just a skim-read:

"cash ahs been"

"n A 50-year-old"
Maybey yew shud gett ay jobb ut thee Ecow....

.....then maybe admire this brave fellow for his courageous act instead of ridiculing the article!!
[quote][p][bold]mudefordguy[/bold] wrote: Poor quality writing / proof reading again - I spotted two typos from just a skim-read: "cash ahs been" "n A 50-year-old"[/p][/quote]Maybey yew shud gett ay jobb ut thee Ecow.... .....then maybe admire this brave fellow for his courageous act instead of ridiculing the article!! Controversial But True

10:31am Tue 18 Feb 14

saynomore says...

mudefordguy wrote:
Poor quality writing / proof reading again - I spotted two typos from just a skim-read:

"cash ahs been"

"n A 50-year-old"
Get a life,why don't you.What a saddo.
[quote][p][bold]mudefordguy[/bold] wrote: Poor quality writing / proof reading again - I spotted two typos from just a skim-read: "cash ahs been" "n A 50-year-old"[/p][/quote]Get a life,why don't you.What a saddo. saynomore

10:31am Tue 18 Feb 14

stevobath says...

Chris the plumber wrote:
smhinto wrote:
Well done that man. He should have shoved both barrells up his 'departure lounge' and squeezed the trigger, assuming the weapon was not a replica of course.
.
Then of course knowing Bournemouth Police it is a wonder that the shop owner was not arrested for wrestling the assailant to the ground on some trumped up charge of adssault. It would not surprise me.
not sure I like your type of justice if it was a replica the alleged robber
would know that and pulling the trigger would have had no effect.............T

he echo seem convinced of this man guilt ,the police on the other hand seem less sure as the comments from DS A Bell would indicate.
Until charged & found guilty, the crime is ALWAYS 'alleged'.
Just standard police language.
[quote][p][bold]Chris the plumber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: Well done that man. He should have shoved both barrells up his 'departure lounge' and squeezed the trigger, assuming the weapon was not a replica of course. . Then of course knowing Bournemouth Police it is a wonder that the shop owner was not arrested for wrestling the assailant to the ground on some trumped up charge of adssault. It would not surprise me.[/p][/quote]not sure I like your type of justice if it was a replica the alleged robber would know that and pulling the trigger would have had no effect.............T he echo seem convinced of this man guilt ,the police on the other hand seem less sure as the comments from DS A Bell would indicate.[/p][/quote]Until charged & found guilty, the crime is ALWAYS 'alleged'. Just standard police language. stevobath

11:02am Tue 18 Feb 14

l'anglais says...

BIGTONE wrote:
He might have been brave but was stupid. If the gun was real and gone off....game over. If it was a replica he could have had a knife as a plan B.
It's not worth losing your life for.
The shop insurance (assuming they have some) would have covered them in a robbery situation.
So if he had backed away and cowered in the corner what would have been the reprisals?
1. An armed thief on the run waiting to do the same again to some other Innocent hard working shop keeper.
2. Insurance companies are given another reason to hike up their premiums.

More police and harsher penalties, but until that happens, good on yer sunshine.
[quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: He might have been brave but was stupid. If the gun was real and gone off....game over. If it was a replica he could have had a knife as a plan B. It's not worth losing your life for. The shop insurance (assuming they have some) would have covered them in a robbery situation.[/p][/quote]So if he had backed away and cowered in the corner what would have been the reprisals? 1. An armed thief on the run waiting to do the same again to some other Innocent hard working shop keeper. 2. Insurance companies are given another reason to hike up their premiums. More police and harsher penalties, but until that happens, good on yer sunshine. l'anglais

11:41am Tue 18 Feb 14

suzigirl says...

A few pounds is not worth dying for!
A few pounds is not worth dying for! suzigirl

12:11pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Vikki27 says...

Well done!!!! These people should understand they will not always get away with trying to intimidate people.

I agree it wasn't the most sensible course of action BUT adrenaline obviously took over and in this case the body went for fight instead of flight. Any criticism over the action can be largely ignored because everyone who has criticised might be surprised to find themselves reacting the same way if they were in the same situation.
Well done!!!! These people should understand they will not always get away with trying to intimidate people. I agree it wasn't the most sensible course of action BUT adrenaline obviously took over and in this case the body went for fight instead of flight. Any criticism over the action can be largely ignored because everyone who has criticised might be surprised to find themselves reacting the same way if they were in the same situation. Vikki27

12:56pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

Well done!! The only mistake you made was not shooting the ****** when you caught him!
Well done!! The only mistake you made was not shooting the ****** when you caught him! Letcommonsenseprevail

12:56pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

suzigirl wrote:
A few pounds is not worth dying for!
It is if it's the last few pounds you have......
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: A few pounds is not worth dying for![/p][/quote]It is if it's the last few pounds you have...... Letcommonsenseprevail

12:56pm Tue 18 Feb 14

hamworthygirl says...

I imagine instinct would be to stop someone taking whats yours, silly of him maybe but i reckon most people would do the same. Im sure if some low broke in to my house i would struggle to sit back and watch them take things despite being insured.
I imagine instinct would be to stop someone taking whats yours, silly of him maybe but i reckon most people would do the same. Im sure if some low broke in to my house i would struggle to sit back and watch them take things despite being insured. hamworthygirl

1:03pm Tue 18 Feb 14

cycle commuter says...

Regular customer of Mike's here. He and his team work b***** long hours, never short of a smile and a chat - genuine, friendly guys. Well liked around here.

Was shocked to hear this story but not surprised how it turned out - don't mess with the Turks! :)
Regular customer of Mike's here. He and his team work b***** long hours, never short of a smile and a chat - genuine, friendly guys. Well liked around here. Was shocked to hear this story but not surprised how it turned out - don't mess with the Turks! :) cycle commuter

1:15pm Tue 18 Feb 14

seaviews says...

I think maybe the point is being missed in that just because the armed thief hadn't shot him as he was emptying the till did not mean he was not going to. You have to remember people get out of the heads on drugs. My friend was pushed over had her bag stolen then was beaten to a pulp by a thief there was no need to beat her she had let go of the bag and was on the ground. So I would say he did exactly the right thing to protect himself.
I think maybe the point is being missed in that just because the armed thief hadn't shot him as he was emptying the till did not mean he was not going to. You have to remember people get out of the heads on drugs. My friend was pushed over had her bag stolen then was beaten to a pulp by a thief there was no need to beat her she had let go of the bag and was on the ground. So I would say he did exactly the right thing to protect himself. seaviews

2:15pm Tue 18 Feb 14

suzigirl says...

Letcommonsenseprevai
l
wrote:
suzigirl wrote: A few pounds is not worth dying for!
It is if it's the last few pounds you have......
I would still rather be alive and skint!
[quote][p][bold]Letcommonsenseprevai l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: A few pounds is not worth dying for![/p][/quote]It is if it's the last few pounds you have......[/p][/quote]I would still rather be alive and skint! suzigirl

3:05pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Yankee1 says...

In many countries, the shop owner would have been entirely within the law to turn the gun on the robber.

What is happening in Bournemouth? I cannot remember it being as bad as this before.
In many countries, the shop owner would have been entirely within the law to turn the gun on the robber. What is happening in Bournemouth? I cannot remember it being as bad as this before. Yankee1

3:17pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Mudefordman says...

probably get off with a smacked wrist if he blames it on Drink and or Drugs or had a bad upbringing
probably get off with a smacked wrist if he blames it on Drink and or Drugs or had a bad upbringing Mudefordman

3:41pm Tue 18 Feb 14

smhinto says...

Yankee1 wrote:
In many countries, the shop owner would have been entirely within the law to turn the gun on the robber. What is happening in Bournemouth? I cannot remember it being as bad as this before.
Probably because of the lack of effective policing and the general deterioration of society who continually displays an - I don't give a 'toss' - attitude.
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Also the lack of education of society these days, - adults who will not accept responsibility for their behaviour. Drunkenness and people who see nothing wrong with walking around six foot off the ground on cocaine, cannibis and all the crap that they cannot see any wrong in infusing their bodies with.
.
There again according to some high ranking police officers and Council officials - crime is on the decrease !!! If you believe that you will believe anything.
.
All one read about in the Echo on a daily basis is rapes, assaults, robberies, drunkenness, anti-social behavior.
.
Yet accordinf to some people there is nothing wrong with Bournemouth, seemingly.
[quote][p][bold]Yankee1[/bold] wrote: In many countries, the shop owner would have been entirely within the law to turn the gun on the robber. What is happening in Bournemouth? I cannot remember it being as bad as this before.[/p][/quote]Probably because of the lack of effective policing and the general deterioration of society who continually displays an - I don't give a 'toss' - attitude. . Also the lack of education of society these days, - adults who will not accept responsibility for their behaviour. Drunkenness and people who see nothing wrong with walking around six foot off the ground on cocaine, cannibis and all the crap that they cannot see any wrong in infusing their bodies with. . There again according to some high ranking police officers and Council officials - crime is on the decrease !!! If you believe that you will believe anything. . All one read about in the Echo on a daily basis is rapes, assaults, robberies, drunkenness, anti-social behavior. . Yet accordinf to some people there is nothing wrong with Bournemouth, seemingly. smhinto

4:15pm Tue 18 Feb 14

stevobath says...

smhinto wrote:
Yankee1 wrote:
In many countries, the shop owner would have been entirely within the law to turn the gun on the robber. What is happening in Bournemouth? I cannot remember it being as bad as this before.
Probably because of the lack of effective policing and the general deterioration of society who continually displays an - I don't give a 'toss' - attitude.
.
Also the lack of education of society these days, - adults who will not accept responsibility for their behaviour. Drunkenness and people who see nothing wrong with walking around six foot off the ground on cocaine, cannibis and all the crap that they cannot see any wrong in infusing their bodies with.
.
There again according to some high ranking police officers and Council officials - crime is on the decrease !!! If you believe that you will believe anything.
.
All one read about in the Echo on a daily basis is rapes, assaults, robberies, drunkenness, anti-social behavior.
.
Yet accordinf to some people there is nothing wrong with Bournemouth, seemingly.
Let's get it into perspective.

Gun crime in UK is very low. Look at Brazil with 20,000 + murders a year, Mexico the same & the great USA coming up not far behind.

Whatever lurid headlines the ECHO love, this crime is VERY rare in UK
Thank goodness we don't live in a 'Gun Happy' country such as those mentioned.

As for your' 'imagined' view of drugs. Far more violent crime connected with alcohol, a legal poison.

Bournemouth is far safer than lots of other towns/cities of the same size.
Yes, it's important to be aware of these crimes but getting hysterical is pointless.
You'd find it odd if the ECHO didn't report serious crimes. Certainly don't see rapes& robberies everyday. Anti Social behaviour,drunkeness & assaults have been a staple in most towns since year .....

'Paranoia is just another form of ignorance....'
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yankee1[/bold] wrote: In many countries, the shop owner would have been entirely within the law to turn the gun on the robber. What is happening in Bournemouth? I cannot remember it being as bad as this before.[/p][/quote]Probably because of the lack of effective policing and the general deterioration of society who continually displays an - I don't give a 'toss' - attitude. . Also the lack of education of society these days, - adults who will not accept responsibility for their behaviour. Drunkenness and people who see nothing wrong with walking around six foot off the ground on cocaine, cannibis and all the crap that they cannot see any wrong in infusing their bodies with. . There again according to some high ranking police officers and Council officials - crime is on the decrease !!! If you believe that you will believe anything. . All one read about in the Echo on a daily basis is rapes, assaults, robberies, drunkenness, anti-social behavior. . Yet accordinf to some people there is nothing wrong with Bournemouth, seemingly.[/p][/quote]Let's get it into perspective. Gun crime in UK is very low. Look at Brazil with 20,000 + murders a year, Mexico the same & the great USA coming up not far behind. Whatever lurid headlines the ECHO love, this crime is VERY rare in UK Thank goodness we don't live in a 'Gun Happy' country such as those mentioned. As for your' 'imagined' view of drugs. Far more violent crime connected with alcohol, a legal poison. Bournemouth is far safer than lots of other towns/cities of the same size. Yes, it's important to be aware of these crimes but getting hysterical is pointless. You'd find it odd if the ECHO didn't report serious crimes. Certainly don't see rapes& robberies everyday. Anti Social behaviour,drunkeness & assaults have been a staple in most towns since year ..... 'Paranoia is just another form of ignorance....' stevobath

4:16pm Tue 18 Feb 14

BIGTONE says...

l'anglais wrote:
BIGTONE wrote:
He might have been brave but was stupid. If the gun was real and gone off....game over. If it was a replica he could have had a knife as a plan B.
It's not worth losing your life for.
The shop insurance (assuming they have some) would have covered them in a robbery situation.
So if he had backed away and cowered in the corner what would have been the reprisals?
1. An armed thief on the run waiting to do the same again to some other Innocent hard working shop keeper.
2. Insurance companies are given another reason to hike up their premiums.

More police and harsher penalties, but until that happens, good on yer sunshine.
Don't talk through your ar5e

1....The shop owner was lucky the thief didn't have an armed accomplice waiting outside and either shot him or beat him to death.

2.....insurance companies don't need a reason to raise premiums.
They follow the utility companies.

You have to be a frog to think like that. Typical.

As for more police etc....dream on.....the only certainty in this country is Sharia law. Can't wait.....then we can stone them to death.
[quote][p][bold]l'anglais[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: He might have been brave but was stupid. If the gun was real and gone off....game over. If it was a replica he could have had a knife as a plan B. It's not worth losing your life for. The shop insurance (assuming they have some) would have covered them in a robbery situation.[/p][/quote]So if he had backed away and cowered in the corner what would have been the reprisals? 1. An armed thief on the run waiting to do the same again to some other Innocent hard working shop keeper. 2. Insurance companies are given another reason to hike up their premiums. More police and harsher penalties, but until that happens, good on yer sunshine.[/p][/quote]Don't talk through your ar5e 1....The shop owner was lucky the thief didn't have an armed accomplice waiting outside and either shot him or beat him to death. 2.....insurance companies don't need a reason to raise premiums. They follow the utility companies. You have to be a frog to think like that. Typical. As for more police etc....dream on.....the only certainty in this country is Sharia law. Can't wait.....then we can stone them to death. BIGTONE

4:19pm Tue 18 Feb 14

Tarquins says...

It's no wonder I barricade myself in with my pooch at night. I used to be such a night owl but you never know what some of these naughty boys will do! Stop it! Eww, makes me shudder. Stay safe everyone x
It's no wonder I barricade myself in with my pooch at night. I used to be such a night owl but you never know what some of these naughty boys will do! Stop it! Eww, makes me shudder. Stay safe everyone x Tarquins

4:59pm Tue 18 Feb 14

manyogie says...

suzigirl wrote:
A few pounds is not worth dying for!
But the moral stance is, you cannot cave in every time your faced with a challenge, that's why our society is broken at the moment, the ones with the guns (a metaphore for big mouths, self assesed wrongdoings to themselves or hiding in the cowardly anonimityof a crowd) are ruling.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: A few pounds is not worth dying for![/p][/quote]But the moral stance is, you cannot cave in every time your faced with a challenge, that's why our society is broken at the moment, the ones with the guns (a metaphore for big mouths, self assesed wrongdoings to themselves or hiding in the cowardly anonimityof a crowd) are ruling. manyogie

5:07pm Tue 18 Feb 14

manyogie says...

Mudefordman wrote:
probably get off with a smacked wrist if he blames it on Drink and or Drugs or had a bad upbringing
A 50 year old has been arrested, so, following the flow chart,
A. A fine, of which there is no hope at all of ever successfully collecting will be issued.
B. A jail sentence will be issued which will include a roof over their head, 3 meals a day, free heating,lighting and hot water, free health care, free dentistry, free access to health care and legal professional s (in case their human rights are breached)
Tell you what, when I retire, I,m buying a Balaclava and a fake fire arm!
[quote][p][bold]Mudefordman[/bold] wrote: probably get off with a smacked wrist if he blames it on Drink and or Drugs or had a bad upbringing[/p][/quote]A 50 year old has been arrested, so, following the flow chart, A. A fine, of which there is no hope at all of ever successfully collecting will be issued. B. A jail sentence will be issued which will include a roof over their head, 3 meals a day, free heating,lighting and hot water, free health care, free dentistry, free access to health care and legal professional s (in case their human rights are breached) Tell you what, when I retire, I,m buying a Balaclava and a fake fire arm! manyogie

5:07pm Tue 18 Feb 14

manyogie says...

Mudefordman wrote:
probably get off with a smacked wrist if he blames it on Drink and or Drugs or had a bad upbringing
A 50 year old has been arrested, so, following the flow chart,
A. A fine, of which there is no hope at all of ever successfully collecting will be issued.
B. A jail sentence will be issued which will include a roof over their head, 3 meals a day, free heating,lighting and hot water, free health care, free dentistry, free access to health care and legal professional s (in case their human rights are breached)
Tell you what, when I retire, I,m buying a Balaclava and a fake fire arm!
[quote][p][bold]Mudefordman[/bold] wrote: probably get off with a smacked wrist if he blames it on Drink and or Drugs or had a bad upbringing[/p][/quote]A 50 year old has been arrested, so, following the flow chart, A. A fine, of which there is no hope at all of ever successfully collecting will be issued. B. A jail sentence will be issued which will include a roof over their head, 3 meals a day, free heating,lighting and hot water, free health care, free dentistry, free access to health care and legal professional s (in case their human rights are breached) Tell you what, when I retire, I,m buying a Balaclava and a fake fire arm! manyogie

5:15pm Tue 18 Feb 14

smhinto says...

manyogie wrote:
Mudefordman wrote:
probably get off with a smacked wrist if he blames it on Drink and or Drugs or had a bad upbringing
A 50 year old has been arrested, so, following the flow chart,
A. A fine, of which there is no hope at all of ever successfully collecting will be issued.
B. A jail sentence will be issued which will include a roof over their head, 3 meals a day, free heating,lighting and hot water, free health care, free dentistry, free access to health care and legal professional s (in case their human rights are breached)
Tell you what, when I retire, I,m buying a Balaclava and a fake fire arm!
Agreed, I will certainly consider this option in my retirement plans also. .
.
Seemingly, by getting arrested and locked away one is treated much better than having ones freedom and having to survive on the state pension!!
.
Don't you just love this country!!
[quote][p][bold]manyogie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mudefordman[/bold] wrote: probably get off with a smacked wrist if he blames it on Drink and or Drugs or had a bad upbringing[/p][/quote]A 50 year old has been arrested, so, following the flow chart, A. A fine, of which there is no hope at all of ever successfully collecting will be issued. B. A jail sentence will be issued which will include a roof over their head, 3 meals a day, free heating,lighting and hot water, free health care, free dentistry, free access to health care and legal professional s (in case their human rights are breached) Tell you what, when I retire, I,m buying a Balaclava and a fake fire arm![/p][/quote]Agreed, I will certainly consider this option in my retirement plans also. . . Seemingly, by getting arrested and locked away one is treated much better than having ones freedom and having to survive on the state pension!! . Don't you just love this country!! smhinto

5:27pm Tue 18 Feb 14

beachcomber1 says...

hamworthygirl wrote:
I imagine instinct would be to stop someone taking whats yours, silly of him maybe but i reckon most people would do the same. Im sure if some low broke in to my house i would struggle to sit back and watch them take things despite being insured.
maybe one day your thinking will evolve enough to realise that the concepts of "ownership" and "possessions" are pretty meaningless. though if you're unlucky it might not be until you're on your deathbed.
[quote][p][bold]hamworthygirl[/bold] wrote: I imagine instinct would be to stop someone taking whats yours, silly of him maybe but i reckon most people would do the same. Im sure if some low broke in to my house i would struggle to sit back and watch them take things despite being insured.[/p][/quote]maybe one day your thinking will evolve enough to realise that the concepts of "ownership" and "possessions" are pretty meaningless. though if you're unlucky it might not be until you're on your deathbed. beachcomber1

5:45pm Tue 18 Feb 14

simcal says...

BIGTONE wrote:
l'anglais wrote:
BIGTONE wrote: He might have been brave but was stupid. If the gun was real and gone off....game over. If it was a replica he could have had a knife as a plan B. It's not worth losing your life for. The shop insurance (assuming they have some) would have covered them in a robbery situation.
So if he had backed away and cowered in the corner what would have been the reprisals? 1. An armed thief on the run waiting to do the same again to some other Innocent hard working shop keeper. 2. Insurance companies are given another reason to hike up their premiums. More police and harsher penalties, but until that happens, good on yer sunshine.
Don't talk through your ar5e 1....The shop owner was lucky the thief didn't have an armed accomplice waiting outside and either shot him or beat him to death. 2.....insurance companies don't need a reason to raise premiums. They follow the utility companies. You have to be a frog to think like that. Typical. As for more police etc....dream on.....the only certainty in this country is Sharia law. Can't wait.....then we can stone them to death.
Yeah and stone women.
[quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]l'anglais[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: He might have been brave but was stupid. If the gun was real and gone off....game over. If it was a replica he could have had a knife as a plan B. It's not worth losing your life for. The shop insurance (assuming they have some) would have covered them in a robbery situation.[/p][/quote]So if he had backed away and cowered in the corner what would have been the reprisals? 1. An armed thief on the run waiting to do the same again to some other Innocent hard working shop keeper. 2. Insurance companies are given another reason to hike up their premiums. More police and harsher penalties, but until that happens, good on yer sunshine.[/p][/quote]Don't talk through your ar5e 1....The shop owner was lucky the thief didn't have an armed accomplice waiting outside and either shot him or beat him to death. 2.....insurance companies don't need a reason to raise premiums. They follow the utility companies. You have to be a frog to think like that. Typical. As for more police etc....dream on.....the only certainty in this country is Sharia law. Can't wait.....then we can stone them to death.[/p][/quote]Yeah and stone women. simcal

6:43pm Tue 18 Feb 14

BIGTONE says...

simcal wrote:
BIGTONE wrote:
l'anglais wrote:
BIGTONE wrote: He might have been brave but was stupid. If the gun was real and gone off....game over. If it was a replica he could have had a knife as a plan B. It's not worth losing your life for. The shop insurance (assuming they have some) would have covered them in a robbery situation.
So if he had backed away and cowered in the corner what would have been the reprisals? 1. An armed thief on the run waiting to do the same again to some other Innocent hard working shop keeper. 2. Insurance companies are given another reason to hike up their premiums. More police and harsher penalties, but until that happens, good on yer sunshine.
Don't talk through your ar5e 1....The shop owner was lucky the thief didn't have an armed accomplice waiting outside and either shot him or beat him to death. 2.....insurance companies don't need a reason to raise premiums. They follow the utility companies. You have to be a frog to think like that. Typical. As for more police etc....dream on.....the only certainty in this country is Sharia law. Can't wait.....then we can stone them to death.
Yeah and stone women.
In for a penny in for ashfari.
[quote][p][bold]simcal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]l'anglais[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: He might have been brave but was stupid. If the gun was real and gone off....game over. If it was a replica he could have had a knife as a plan B. It's not worth losing your life for. The shop insurance (assuming they have some) would have covered them in a robbery situation.[/p][/quote]So if he had backed away and cowered in the corner what would have been the reprisals? 1. An armed thief on the run waiting to do the same again to some other Innocent hard working shop keeper. 2. Insurance companies are given another reason to hike up their premiums. More police and harsher penalties, but until that happens, good on yer sunshine.[/p][/quote]Don't talk through your ar5e 1....The shop owner was lucky the thief didn't have an armed accomplice waiting outside and either shot him or beat him to death. 2.....insurance companies don't need a reason to raise premiums. They follow the utility companies. You have to be a frog to think like that. Typical. As for more police etc....dream on.....the only certainty in this country is Sharia law. Can't wait.....then we can stone them to death.[/p][/quote]Yeah and stone women.[/p][/quote]In for a penny in for ashfari. BIGTONE

6:45pm Tue 18 Feb 14

BIGTONE says...

simcal wrote:
BIGTONE wrote:
l'anglais wrote:
BIGTONE wrote: He might have been brave but was stupid. If the gun was real and gone off....game over. If it was a replica he could have had a knife as a plan B. It's not worth losing your life for. The shop insurance (assuming they have some) would have covered them in a robbery situation.
So if he had backed away and cowered in the corner what would have been the reprisals? 1. An armed thief on the run waiting to do the same again to some other Innocent hard working shop keeper. 2. Insurance companies are given another reason to hike up their premiums. More police and harsher penalties, but until that happens, good on yer sunshine.
Don't talk through your ar5e 1....The shop owner was lucky the thief didn't have an armed accomplice waiting outside and either shot him or beat him to death. 2.....insurance companies don't need a reason to raise premiums. They follow the utility companies. You have to be a frog to think like that. Typical. As for more police etc....dream on.....the only certainty in this country is Sharia law. Can't wait.....then we can stone them to death.
Yeah and stone women.
The women are already stoned.....
[quote][p][bold]simcal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]l'anglais[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: He might have been brave but was stupid. If the gun was real and gone off....game over. If it was a replica he could have had a knife as a plan B. It's not worth losing your life for. The shop insurance (assuming they have some) would have covered them in a robbery situation.[/p][/quote]So if he had backed away and cowered in the corner what would have been the reprisals? 1. An armed thief on the run waiting to do the same again to some other Innocent hard working shop keeper. 2. Insurance companies are given another reason to hike up their premiums. More police and harsher penalties, but until that happens, good on yer sunshine.[/p][/quote]Don't talk through your ar5e 1....The shop owner was lucky the thief didn't have an armed accomplice waiting outside and either shot him or beat him to death. 2.....insurance companies don't need a reason to raise premiums. They follow the utility companies. You have to be a frog to think like that. Typical. As for more police etc....dream on.....the only certainty in this country is Sharia law. Can't wait.....then we can stone them to death.[/p][/quote]Yeah and stone women.[/p][/quote]The women are already stoned..... BIGTONE

7:02pm Tue 18 Feb 14

simcal says...

BIGTONE wrote:
simcal wrote:
BIGTONE wrote:
l'anglais wrote:
BIGTONE wrote: He might have been brave but was stupid. If the gun was real and gone off....game over. If it was a replica he could have had a knife as a plan B. It's not worth losing your life for. The shop insurance (assuming they have some) would have covered them in a robbery situation.
So if he had backed away and cowered in the corner what would have been the reprisals? 1. An armed thief on the run waiting to do the same again to some other Innocent hard working shop keeper. 2. Insurance companies are given another reason to hike up their premiums. More police and harsher penalties, but until that happens, good on yer sunshine.
Don't talk through your ar5e 1....The shop owner was lucky the thief didn't have an armed accomplice waiting outside and either shot him or beat him to death. 2.....insurance companies don't need a reason to raise premiums. They follow the utility companies. You have to be a frog to think like that. Typical. As for more police etc....dream on.....the only certainty in this country is Sharia law. Can't wait.....then we can stone them to death.
Yeah and stone women.
The women are already stoned.....
Had to laugh.
[quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]simcal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]l'anglais[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: He might have been brave but was stupid. If the gun was real and gone off....game over. If it was a replica he could have had a knife as a plan B. It's not worth losing your life for. The shop insurance (assuming they have some) would have covered them in a robbery situation.[/p][/quote]So if he had backed away and cowered in the corner what would have been the reprisals? 1. An armed thief on the run waiting to do the same again to some other Innocent hard working shop keeper. 2. Insurance companies are given another reason to hike up their premiums. More police and harsher penalties, but until that happens, good on yer sunshine.[/p][/quote]Don't talk through your ar5e 1....The shop owner was lucky the thief didn't have an armed accomplice waiting outside and either shot him or beat him to death. 2.....insurance companies don't need a reason to raise premiums. They follow the utility companies. You have to be a frog to think like that. Typical. As for more police etc....dream on.....the only certainty in this country is Sharia law. Can't wait.....then we can stone them to death.[/p][/quote]Yeah and stone women.[/p][/quote]The women are already stoned.....[/p][/quote]Had to laugh. simcal

7:19pm Tue 18 Feb 14

chris77 says...

X
X chris77

7:23pm Tue 18 Feb 14

chris77 says...

We'll done. I live rite near hillview shop when Michael use to work with his dad.
He works long hours and days and works hard for his money so why should he hand it over.
Well done top man and fair play. Chris
We'll done. I live rite near hillview shop when Michael use to work with his dad. He works long hours and days and works hard for his money so why should he hand it over. Well done top man and fair play. Chris chris77

7:56pm Tue 18 Feb 14

ashleycross says...

These people hang around christchurch train station begging. Its a bit harder to get the police out to deal with that but the same thing applies. why should I spend all day working hard for my money just to hand it over to someone on their way back to Pokesdown for Boscombe. The cctv is clearly useless and even if you report them no one comes back to you to look at the footage. I would urge anyone approached by beggars to report it immediately to the police before they turn to this sort of nonsense. This includes all Bournemouth shopkeepers. It astonishes me that they don't realise that this is what drives people away from town centres and into castle point and the dolphin centre.
These people hang around christchurch train station begging. Its a bit harder to get the police out to deal with that but the same thing applies. why should I spend all day working hard for my money just to hand it over to someone on their way back to Pokesdown for Boscombe. The cctv is clearly useless and even if you report them no one comes back to you to look at the footage. I would urge anyone approached by beggars to report it immediately to the police before they turn to this sort of nonsense. This includes all Bournemouth shopkeepers. It astonishes me that they don't realise that this is what drives people away from town centres and into castle point and the dolphin centre. ashleycross

8:03pm Tue 18 Feb 14

ashleycross says...

Lot of substance appreciators posting here tonight I see. Just for a change.
Lot of substance appreciators posting here tonight I see. Just for a change. ashleycross

8:05pm Tue 18 Feb 14

drJones says...

Good for him, but does anyone read into this a bit more?

“I am keen to speak to anyone who witnessed people running down the road at the time of this incident or the alleged robbery itself."

that sounds like to me he will have to prove he robbed him and most likely get away with it?
Good for him, but does anyone read into this a bit more? “I am keen to speak to anyone who witnessed people running down the road at the time of this incident or the alleged robbery itself." that sounds like to me he will have to prove he robbed him and most likely get away with it? drJones

8:18pm Tue 18 Feb 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Probably turn out to be the doppiest armed robber this side of the Watford Scorch mark ,tooled up with a couple of bits pipe .but if your on the receiving end of must be frightens.Just hope the judge Wiggs see,s it differently to me ,but I doubt it
Probably turn out to be the doppiest armed robber this side of the Watford Scorch mark ,tooled up with a couple of bits pipe .but if your on the receiving end of must be frightens.Just hope the judge Wiggs see,s it differently to me ,but I doubt it kalebmoledirt

8:30pm Tue 18 Feb 14

hamworthygirl says...

beachcomber1 wrote:
hamworthygirl wrote:
I imagine instinct would be to stop someone taking whats yours, silly of him maybe but i reckon most people would do the same. Im sure if some low broke in to my house i would struggle to sit back and watch them take things despite being insured.
maybe one day your thinking will evolve enough to realise that the concepts of "ownership" and "possessions" are pretty meaningless. though if you're unlucky it might not be until you're on your deathbed.
my possessions mean a lot to me not because they are worth much but that my house is my home and no one has the right to try and steal. What if sit and watch them and they beat me or shoot me anyway i may as well go out fighting.
[quote][p][bold]beachcomber1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hamworthygirl[/bold] wrote: I imagine instinct would be to stop someone taking whats yours, silly of him maybe but i reckon most people would do the same. Im sure if some low broke in to my house i would struggle to sit back and watch them take things despite being insured.[/p][/quote]maybe one day your thinking will evolve enough to realise that the concepts of "ownership" and "possessions" are pretty meaningless. though if you're unlucky it might not be until you're on your deathbed.[/p][/quote]my possessions mean a lot to me not because they are worth much but that my house is my home and no one has the right to try and steal. What if sit and watch them and they beat me or shoot me anyway i may as well go out fighting. hamworthygirl

9:09pm Tue 18 Feb 14

ashleycross says...

hamworthygirl wrote:
beachcomber1 wrote:
hamworthygirl wrote:
I imagine instinct would be to stop someone taking whats yours, silly of him maybe but i reckon most people would do the same. Im sure if some low broke in to my house i would struggle to sit back and watch them take things despite being insured.
maybe one day your thinking will evolve enough to realise that the concepts of "ownership" and "possessions" are pretty meaningless. though if you're unlucky it might not be until you're on your deathbed.
my possessions mean a lot to me not because they are worth much but that my house is my home and no one has the right to try and steal. What if sit and watch them and they beat me or shoot me anyway i may as well go out fighting.
Like your spirit Hamworthygirl. Makes us seem a bit wimpish over here in Ashley Cross.
[quote][p][bold]hamworthygirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beachcomber1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hamworthygirl[/bold] wrote: I imagine instinct would be to stop someone taking whats yours, silly of him maybe but i reckon most people would do the same. Im sure if some low broke in to my house i would struggle to sit back and watch them take things despite being insured.[/p][/quote]maybe one day your thinking will evolve enough to realise that the concepts of "ownership" and "possessions" are pretty meaningless. though if you're unlucky it might not be until you're on your deathbed.[/p][/quote]my possessions mean a lot to me not because they are worth much but that my house is my home and no one has the right to try and steal. What if sit and watch them and they beat me or shoot me anyway i may as well go out fighting.[/p][/quote]Like your spirit Hamworthygirl. Makes us seem a bit wimpish over here in Ashley Cross. ashleycross

10:06pm Tue 18 Feb 14

nickynoodah says...

BIGTONE wrote:
He might have been brave but was stupid. If the gun was real and gone off....game over. If it was a replica he could have had a knife as a plan B.
It's not worth losing your life for.
The shop insurance (assuming they have some) would have covered them in a robbery situation.
Why you talk through your alfie George.
[quote][p][bold]BIGTONE[/bold] wrote: He might have been brave but was stupid. If the gun was real and gone off....game over. If it was a replica he could have had a knife as a plan B. It's not worth losing your life for. The shop insurance (assuming they have some) would have covered them in a robbery situation.[/p][/quote]Why you talk through your alfie George. nickynoodah

10:40pm Tue 18 Feb 14

hooplaa says...

Wouldn't have been smiling if the bloke had pulled the trigger. Not worth it for a few bank notes!
Wouldn't have been smiling if the bloke had pulled the trigger. Not worth it for a few bank notes! hooplaa

9:31am Wed 19 Feb 14

suzigirl says...

hooplaa wrote:
Wouldn't have been smiling if the bloke had pulled the trigger. Not worth it for a few bank notes!
Exactly my point!
[quote][p][bold]hooplaa[/bold] wrote: Wouldn't have been smiling if the bloke had pulled the trigger. Not worth it for a few bank notes![/p][/quote]Exactly my point! suzigirl

6:28pm Wed 19 Feb 14

stevobath says...

ashleycross wrote:
These people hang around christchurch train station begging. Its a bit harder to get the police out to deal with that but the same thing applies. why should I spend all day working hard for my money just to hand it over to someone on their way back to Pokesdown for Boscombe. The cctv is clearly useless and even if you report them no one comes back to you to look at the footage. I would urge anyone approached by beggars to report it immediately to the police before they turn to this sort of nonsense. This includes all Bournemouth shopkeepers. It astonishes me that they don't realise that this is what drives people away from town centres and into castle point and the dolphin centre.
What's armed robbery got to do with begging?

What drives people away from town centres are lower prices, free parking & a level shopping area.

So you know that this guy was a beggar at some point? Ludicrous assumption & shows once again how feeble minded some people are.
[quote][p][bold]ashleycross[/bold] wrote: These people hang around christchurch train station begging. Its a bit harder to get the police out to deal with that but the same thing applies. why should I spend all day working hard for my money just to hand it over to someone on their way back to Pokesdown for Boscombe. The cctv is clearly useless and even if you report them no one comes back to you to look at the footage. I would urge anyone approached by beggars to report it immediately to the police before they turn to this sort of nonsense. This includes all Bournemouth shopkeepers. It astonishes me that they don't realise that this is what drives people away from town centres and into castle point and the dolphin centre.[/p][/quote]What's armed robbery got to do with begging? What drives people away from town centres are lower prices, free parking & a level shopping area. So you know that this guy was a beggar at some point? Ludicrous assumption & shows once again how feeble minded some people are. stevobath

6:37pm Wed 19 Feb 14

stevobath says...

smhinto wrote:
manyogie wrote:
Mudefordman wrote:
probably get off with a smacked wrist if he blames it on Drink and or Drugs or had a bad upbringing
A 50 year old has been arrested, so, following the flow chart,
A. A fine, of which there is no hope at all of ever successfully collecting will be issued.
B. A jail sentence will be issued which will include a roof over their head, 3 meals a day, free heating,lighting and hot water, free health care, free dentistry, free access to health care and legal professional s (in case their human rights are breached)
Tell you what, when I retire, I,m buying a Balaclava and a fake fire arm!
Agreed, I will certainly consider this option in my retirement plans also. .
.
Seemingly, by getting arrested and locked away one is treated much better than having ones freedom and having to survive on the state pension!!
.
Don't you just love this country!!
I'm sure there's a place for you somewhere in Europe?

Do you seriously think Bournemouth is the only town where this thing happens? If it's so bad in this Country, go live abroad.

You only ever have negative things to say about Bournemouth, be it the town itself or AFCB.
I bet you're a bag of laughs?
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manyogie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mudefordman[/bold] wrote: probably get off with a smacked wrist if he blames it on Drink and or Drugs or had a bad upbringing[/p][/quote]A 50 year old has been arrested, so, following the flow chart, A. A fine, of which there is no hope at all of ever successfully collecting will be issued. B. A jail sentence will be issued which will include a roof over their head, 3 meals a day, free heating,lighting and hot water, free health care, free dentistry, free access to health care and legal professional s (in case their human rights are breached) Tell you what, when I retire, I,m buying a Balaclava and a fake fire arm![/p][/quote]Agreed, I will certainly consider this option in my retirement plans also. . . Seemingly, by getting arrested and locked away one is treated much better than having ones freedom and having to survive on the state pension!! . Don't you just love this country!![/p][/quote]I'm sure there's a place for you somewhere in Europe? Do you seriously think Bournemouth is the only town where this thing happens? If it's so bad in this Country, go live abroad. You only ever have negative things to say about Bournemouth, be it the town itself or AFCB. I bet you're a bag of laughs? stevobath

6:37pm Wed 19 Feb 14

stevobath says...

smhinto wrote:
manyogie wrote:
Mudefordman wrote:
probably get off with a smacked wrist if he blames it on Drink and or Drugs or had a bad upbringing
A 50 year old has been arrested, so, following the flow chart,
A. A fine, of which there is no hope at all of ever successfully collecting will be issued.
B. A jail sentence will be issued which will include a roof over their head, 3 meals a day, free heating,lighting and hot water, free health care, free dentistry, free access to health care and legal professional s (in case their human rights are breached)
Tell you what, when I retire, I,m buying a Balaclava and a fake fire arm!
Agreed, I will certainly consider this option in my retirement plans also. .
.
Seemingly, by getting arrested and locked away one is treated much better than having ones freedom and having to survive on the state pension!!
.
Don't you just love this country!!
I'm sure there's a place for you somewhere in Europe?

Do you seriously think Bournemouth is the only town where this thing happens? If it's so bad in this Country, go live abroad.

You only ever have negative things to say about Bournemouth, be it the town itself or AFCB.
I bet you're a bag of laughs?
[quote][p][bold]smhinto[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manyogie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mudefordman[/bold] wrote: probably get off with a smacked wrist if he blames it on Drink and or Drugs or had a bad upbringing[/p][/quote]A 50 year old has been arrested, so, following the flow chart, A. A fine, of which there is no hope at all of ever successfully collecting will be issued. B. A jail sentence will be issued which will include a roof over their head, 3 meals a day, free heating,lighting and hot water, free health care, free dentistry, free access to health care and legal professional s (in case their human rights are breached) Tell you what, when I retire, I,m buying a Balaclava and a fake fire arm![/p][/quote]Agreed, I will certainly consider this option in my retirement plans also. . . Seemingly, by getting arrested and locked away one is treated much better than having ones freedom and having to survive on the state pension!! . Don't you just love this country!![/p][/quote]I'm sure there's a place for you somewhere in Europe? Do you seriously think Bournemouth is the only town where this thing happens? If it's so bad in this Country, go live abroad. You only ever have negative things to say about Bournemouth, be it the town itself or AFCB. I bet you're a bag of laughs? stevobath

6:59am Thu 20 Feb 14

Phixer says...

suzigirl wrote:
A few pounds is not worth dying for!
Your liberal attitude is why this country is in a bad way. A few pounds today, a few more pounds tomorrow. After that you on your way to the shops, or a bank maybe?

And the rest of us have to pay for this in increased premiums, increased security and scared to go out into a society run by lawless criminals.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: A few pounds is not worth dying for![/p][/quote]Your liberal attitude is why this country is in a bad way. A few pounds today, a few more pounds tomorrow. After that you on your way to the shops, or a bank maybe? And the rest of us have to pay for this in increased premiums, increased security and scared to go out into a society run by lawless criminals. Phixer

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