Police commissioner to meet road chiefs over A31 fatal crash chaos in New Forest

Police commissioner to meet road chiefs over A31 fatal crash chaos in New Forest

Motorcyclist Daniel Johns who died on A31 last week

Hampshire PCC Simon Hayes

First published in News

HAMPSHIRE’S Police and Crime Commissioner is to meet roads chiefs to draw up a blueprint for the aftermath of major accidents after thousands of motorists were caught up for hours in the wake of a crash that claimed the life of a motorcyclist.

Simon Hayes says the authorities have “social responsibility” to help drivers stuck in jams after incidents such as the fatal smash when two bikers hit a loose horse on the A31 in the New Forest last week.

Drivers were left stranded in their cars for up to seven hours as police investigated and cleared up the scene.

As reported Daniel Robins (above), from Bournemouth, died when he and another rider were in collision with the animal on the westbound carriageway at around 6pm on Wednesday last week.

Drivers were stranded in their cars for several hours until 1am with no food or water – and say they were given virtually no information by police.

Police handling of the incident was initially referred to the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPPC) which has decided not to investigate the incident and will allow Hampshire Police to carry out its own inquiry.

Mr Hayes wants to meet representatives from the Highways Agency and voluntary organisations to put measures in place to protect drivers.

He said he is in no way blaming the police or emergency services but says more should be done to provide members of the public with information, alternative routes to escape the jams and access to food, water and toilets.

Mr Hayes stressed that the widespread gridlock was an “extraordinary incident”, but said: “For people to be stuck in their vehicles for seven hours is completely unacceptable.

“We need to try and develop a policy that if a road is going to be closed for a long period of time can we can divert people away from the accident or ensure we help with their welfare.

“It’s right that the emergency services are concentrating on the accident, cutting people out or putting out fires but we need to look at how we can manage everything else.

“Is it really necessary for people to be contained for that long?”

“I’m not saying the police are responsible but it is a case of social responsibility.”

A Highways Agency spokesman said normally during a traffic incident it is for the police to consider the provision of welfare working with other authorities including themselves.

He said: “We would welcome any discussions that would enable the provision of welfare when required.”

Last week campaigners called for former crossover points in the A31’s central reservation to be reopened to allow drivers to be diverted away from the scene of major accidents.

They were closed several years ago after a police motorcyclist was killed in an accident caused by a motorist doing a U-turn.

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10:01am Mon 27 Jan 14

nickynoodah says...

The lying police are so thick they will be blaming the horse next
should have tethered the horse until it was put some where safe
that's it the jobs a good one,
idiots you know.
The lying police are so thick they will be blaming the horse next should have tethered the horse until it was put some where safe that's it the jobs a good one, idiots you know. nickynoodah
  • Score: -18

10:11am Mon 27 Jan 14

Telscombe Cliffy says...

It's easy with hindsight, but a 20mph rolling roadblock both directions while the horses were loose and being looked for would have done and not lead to the second fatal incident. Perhaps that stretch of road also needs half a dozen decent big layby/picnic areas along it with toilets/information screens/phones. After all , it is a tourist area. Slip roads would need to be good though otherwise more accidents with traffic leaving and joining, but that applies to some existing ones like the two Westbound slips at Ringwood.
It's easy with hindsight, but a 20mph rolling roadblock both directions while the horses were loose and being looked for would have done and not lead to the second fatal incident. Perhaps that stretch of road also needs half a dozen decent big layby/picnic areas along it with toilets/information screens/phones. After all , it is a tourist area. Slip roads would need to be good though otherwise more accidents with traffic leaving and joining, but that applies to some existing ones like the two Westbound slips at Ringwood. Telscombe Cliffy
  • Score: -5

10:30am Mon 27 Jan 14

Rhian1983 says...

Surely this is not about people being stuck in their cars for a few hours what is a few hours in comparison to the loss of Daniels life. The investigation here is why was the road re opened who said it was safe to proceed the road ahead when clearly it was not. This is a tragedy because of someone's impatience and incompetence and we want answers. Closing the inquiry is an absolute disgrace. Investigating how the traffic jam could of been handled better is an absolute disgrace, what needs to be investigated is why Daniels death happened and who is responsible.

Rhian
Surely this is not about people being stuck in their cars for a few hours what is a few hours in comparison to the loss of Daniels life. The investigation here is why was the road re opened who said it was safe to proceed the road ahead when clearly it was not. This is a tragedy because of someone's impatience and incompetence and we want answers. Closing the inquiry is an absolute disgrace. Investigating how the traffic jam could of been handled better is an absolute disgrace, what needs to be investigated is why Daniels death happened and who is responsible. Rhian Rhian1983
  • Score: -13

11:19am Mon 27 Jan 14

High Treason says...

Rhian1983 wrote:
Surely this is not about people being stuck in their cars for a few hours what is a few hours in comparison to the loss of Daniels life. The investigation here is why was the road re opened who said it was safe to proceed the road ahead when clearly it was not. This is a tragedy because of someone's impatience and incompetence and we want answers. Closing the inquiry is an absolute disgrace. Investigating how the traffic jam could of been handled better is an absolute disgrace, what needs to be investigated is why Daniels death happened and who is responsible.

Rhian
I do not think we should speculate on who is responsible until we have results of the accident
[quote][p][bold]Rhian1983[/bold] wrote: Surely this is not about people being stuck in their cars for a few hours what is a few hours in comparison to the loss of Daniels life. The investigation here is why was the road re opened who said it was safe to proceed the road ahead when clearly it was not. This is a tragedy because of someone's impatience and incompetence and we want answers. Closing the inquiry is an absolute disgrace. Investigating how the traffic jam could of been handled better is an absolute disgrace, what needs to be investigated is why Daniels death happened and who is responsible. Rhian[/p][/quote]I do not think we should speculate on who is responsible until we have results of the accident High Treason
  • Score: 7

12:43pm Mon 27 Jan 14

jimbob32 says...

High Treason wrote:
Rhian1983 wrote:
Surely this is not about people being stuck in their cars for a few hours what is a few hours in comparison to the loss of Daniels life. The investigation here is why was the road re opened who said it was safe to proceed the road ahead when clearly it was not. This is a tragedy because of someone's impatience and incompetence and we want answers. Closing the inquiry is an absolute disgrace. Investigating how the traffic jam could of been handled better is an absolute disgrace, what needs to be investigated is why Daniels death happened and who is responsible.

Rhian
I do not think we should speculate on who is responsible until we have results of the accident
Rhian was not speculating, simply stating that the investigation should be about ' the cause of Daniels death', not that people were held in a queue. Someone thought that a horse being in the road was a dangerous enough reason to close the road, and yet even though the horse had not been found, they then changed their minds and reopened the road resulting in a fatality. Now I know who I would be blaming if I was part of the family, and this is why a serious investigation should be taking place.
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rhian1983[/bold] wrote: Surely this is not about people being stuck in their cars for a few hours what is a few hours in comparison to the loss of Daniels life. The investigation here is why was the road re opened who said it was safe to proceed the road ahead when clearly it was not. This is a tragedy because of someone's impatience and incompetence and we want answers. Closing the inquiry is an absolute disgrace. Investigating how the traffic jam could of been handled better is an absolute disgrace, what needs to be investigated is why Daniels death happened and who is responsible. Rhian[/p][/quote]I do not think we should speculate on who is responsible until we have results of the accident[/p][/quote]Rhian was not speculating, simply stating that the investigation should be about ' the cause of Daniels death', not that people were held in a queue. Someone thought that a horse being in the road was a dangerous enough reason to close the road, and yet even though the horse had not been found, they then changed their minds and reopened the road resulting in a fatality. Now I know who I would be blaming if I was part of the family, and this is why a serious investigation should be taking place. jimbob32
  • Score: -2

3:22pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Phixer says...

jimbob32 wrote:
High Treason wrote:
Rhian1983 wrote:
Surely this is not about people being stuck in their cars for a few hours what is a few hours in comparison to the loss of Daniels life. The investigation here is why was the road re opened who said it was safe to proceed the road ahead when clearly it was not. This is a tragedy because of someone's impatience and incompetence and we want answers. Closing the inquiry is an absolute disgrace. Investigating how the traffic jam could of been handled better is an absolute disgrace, what needs to be investigated is why Daniels death happened and who is responsible.

Rhian
I do not think we should speculate on who is responsible until we have results of the accident
Rhian was not speculating, simply stating that the investigation should be about ' the cause of Daniels death', not that people were held in a queue. Someone thought that a horse being in the road was a dangerous enough reason to close the road, and yet even though the horse had not been found, they then changed their minds and reopened the road resulting in a fatality. Now I know who I would be blaming if I was part of the family, and this is why a serious investigation should be taking place.
That is a matter for the inquest but it doesn't stop an investigation on why people should be stuck in cars for 7 hours. The function of the police is to keep society moving; trapping people and holding them hostage for 7 hours is not the mark of a civilised society.
[quote][p][bold]jimbob32[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rhian1983[/bold] wrote: Surely this is not about people being stuck in their cars for a few hours what is a few hours in comparison to the loss of Daniels life. The investigation here is why was the road re opened who said it was safe to proceed the road ahead when clearly it was not. This is a tragedy because of someone's impatience and incompetence and we want answers. Closing the inquiry is an absolute disgrace. Investigating how the traffic jam could of been handled better is an absolute disgrace, what needs to be investigated is why Daniels death happened and who is responsible. Rhian[/p][/quote]I do not think we should speculate on who is responsible until we have results of the accident[/p][/quote]Rhian was not speculating, simply stating that the investigation should be about ' the cause of Daniels death', not that people were held in a queue. Someone thought that a horse being in the road was a dangerous enough reason to close the road, and yet even though the horse had not been found, they then changed their minds and reopened the road resulting in a fatality. Now I know who I would be blaming if I was part of the family, and this is why a serious investigation should be taking place.[/p][/quote]That is a matter for the inquest but it doesn't stop an investigation on why people should be stuck in cars for 7 hours. The function of the police is to keep society moving; trapping people and holding them hostage for 7 hours is not the mark of a civilised society. Phixer
  • Score: 0

4:52pm Mon 27 Jan 14

rudolph_hucker says...

The A31 is a single point of failure - if it goes down, everything stops.
So, we should build a new dual carriageway right next to the existing one.
Then whenever there is an accident or roadworks and the road is blocked, traffic can switch over to the other one and carry on.
Might cost a bit of money and upset a few people, but that is the price of progress.
The A31 is a single point of failure - if it goes down, everything stops. So, we should build a new dual carriageway right next to the existing one. Then whenever there is an accident or roadworks and the road is blocked, traffic can switch over to the other one and carry on. Might cost a bit of money and upset a few people, but that is the price of progress. rudolph_hucker
  • Score: -2

4:59pm Mon 27 Jan 14

rayc says...

High Treason wrote:
Rhian1983 wrote:
Surely this is not about people being stuck in their cars for a few hours what is a few hours in comparison to the loss of Daniels life. The investigation here is why was the road re opened who said it was safe to proceed the road ahead when clearly it was not. This is a tragedy because of someone's impatience and incompetence and we want answers. Closing the inquiry is an absolute disgrace. Investigating how the traffic jam could of been handled better is an absolute disgrace, what needs to be investigated is why Daniels death happened and who is responsible.

Rhian
I do not think we should speculate on who is responsible until we have results of the accident
It doesn't have to be that any one person or agency is responsible. Most incidents are a culmination of events and perhaps there are a number of them, carried out by different people, which led to the tragedy coming about.
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rhian1983[/bold] wrote: Surely this is not about people being stuck in their cars for a few hours what is a few hours in comparison to the loss of Daniels life. The investigation here is why was the road re opened who said it was safe to proceed the road ahead when clearly it was not. This is a tragedy because of someone's impatience and incompetence and we want answers. Closing the inquiry is an absolute disgrace. Investigating how the traffic jam could of been handled better is an absolute disgrace, what needs to be investigated is why Daniels death happened and who is responsible. Rhian[/p][/quote]I do not think we should speculate on who is responsible until we have results of the accident[/p][/quote]It doesn't have to be that any one person or agency is responsible. Most incidents are a culmination of events and perhaps there are a number of them, carried out by different people, which led to the tragedy coming about. rayc
  • Score: 2

5:04pm Mon 27 Jan 14

itsneverblackorwhite says...

I hope the inquest investigates this incident fully and if the Police were at fault for causing the death of the motorcyclist and the injuries of the other motorcyclist let us hope they are brought to book, and also the highways agency, and horse-owner likewise.
I hope the inquest investigates this incident fully and if the Police were at fault for causing the death of the motorcyclist and the injuries of the other motorcyclist let us hope they are brought to book, and also the highways agency, and horse-owner likewise. itsneverblackorwhite
  • Score: -1

5:32pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Bonkeydollocks says...

rudolph_hucker wrote:
The A31 is a single point of failure - if it goes down, everything stops.
So, we should build a new dual carriageway right next to the existing one.
Then whenever there is an accident or roadworks and the road is blocked, traffic can switch over to the other one and carry on.
Might cost a bit of money and upset a few people, but that is the price of progress.
That wouldn't be progress, would be a total waste of money! The right proper option is to upgrade the existing A31 to M27 standard - as a minumum to 2 lanes plus emergency shoulder and provide some breaks in the central reserve for traffic to have a controlled u-turn in the event of closure. In the short term this would only need a lockable gate at each crossover to be installed - from memory there are 2-3 crossovers between Stony Cross and Pickets Post which is the long 8 mile stretch with no exits at present.

A lockable gate with only the emergency services having a key would solve the problem - but is so simple it will never be implemented.
[quote][p][bold]rudolph_hucker[/bold] wrote: The A31 is a single point of failure - if it goes down, everything stops. So, we should build a new dual carriageway right next to the existing one. Then whenever there is an accident or roadworks and the road is blocked, traffic can switch over to the other one and carry on. Might cost a bit of money and upset a few people, but that is the price of progress.[/p][/quote]That wouldn't be progress, would be a total waste of money! The right proper option is to upgrade the existing A31 to M27 standard - as a minumum to 2 lanes plus emergency shoulder and provide some breaks in the central reserve for traffic to have a controlled u-turn in the event of closure. In the short term this would only need a lockable gate at each crossover to be installed - from memory there are 2-3 crossovers between Stony Cross and Pickets Post which is the long 8 mile stretch with no exits at present. A lockable gate with only the emergency services having a key would solve the problem - but is so simple it will never be implemented. Bonkeydollocks
  • Score: 2

6:47pm Mon 27 Jan 14

smhinto says...

You all know what the outcome of all these alledged meetings will be don't you ??
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Yes you've guessed it.!!
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ABSOLUTLY NOTHING !!!
You all know what the outcome of all these alledged meetings will be don't you ?? . Yes you've guessed it.!! . ABSOLUTLY NOTHING !!! smhinto
  • Score: -1

7:00pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Hessenford says...

Scrap the meetings, they solve nothing, go and look at other countries where the main priority is to keep the traffic moving as well as taking care of any injured people involved in accidents, every time there is an accident in this country the first thing that happens is to shut down half the road network while the police stand around doing nothing, funny though that when an accident occurs there is an abundance of police around, when a criminal act is reported there is never anyone available.
Scrap the meetings, they solve nothing, go and look at other countries where the main priority is to keep the traffic moving as well as taking care of any injured people involved in accidents, every time there is an accident in this country the first thing that happens is to shut down half the road network while the police stand around doing nothing, funny though that when an accident occurs there is an abundance of police around, when a criminal act is reported there is never anyone available. Hessenford
  • Score: 0

8:20pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Huey says...

Bonkeydollocks wrote:
rudolph_hucker wrote:
The A31 is a single point of failure - if it goes down, everything stops.
So, we should build a new dual carriageway right next to the existing one.
Then whenever there is an accident or roadworks and the road is blocked, traffic can switch over to the other one and carry on.
Might cost a bit of money and upset a few people, but that is the price of progress.
That wouldn't be progress, would be a total waste of money! The right proper option is to upgrade the existing A31 to M27 standard - as a minumum to 2 lanes plus emergency shoulder and provide some breaks in the central reserve for traffic to have a controlled u-turn in the event of closure. In the short term this would only need a lockable gate at each crossover to be installed - from memory there are 2-3 crossovers between Stony Cross and Pickets Post which is the long 8 mile stretch with no exits at present.

A lockable gate with only the emergency services having a key would solve the problem - but is so simple it will never be implemented.
I like the idea of a backup road
[quote][p][bold]Bonkeydollocks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rudolph_hucker[/bold] wrote: The A31 is a single point of failure - if it goes down, everything stops. So, we should build a new dual carriageway right next to the existing one. Then whenever there is an accident or roadworks and the road is blocked, traffic can switch over to the other one and carry on. Might cost a bit of money and upset a few people, but that is the price of progress.[/p][/quote]That wouldn't be progress, would be a total waste of money! The right proper option is to upgrade the existing A31 to M27 standard - as a minumum to 2 lanes plus emergency shoulder and provide some breaks in the central reserve for traffic to have a controlled u-turn in the event of closure. In the short term this would only need a lockable gate at each crossover to be installed - from memory there are 2-3 crossovers between Stony Cross and Pickets Post which is the long 8 mile stretch with no exits at present. A lockable gate with only the emergency services having a key would solve the problem - but is so simple it will never be implemented.[/p][/quote]I like the idea of a backup road Huey
  • Score: 0

8:43pm Mon 27 Jan 14

cheeriedriteup says...

Extend the M27 right through to ferndown
Extend the M27 right through to ferndown cheeriedriteup
  • Score: 0

9:35pm Mon 27 Jan 14

jimbob32 says...

We all know the reason it took so long for the police to investigate...... Because THEY shouldn't have opened the road in the first place!
We all know the reason it took so long for the police to investigate...... Because THEY shouldn't have opened the road in the first place! jimbob32
  • Score: 1

9:45pm Mon 27 Jan 14

jimbob32 says...

They made the decision to open the road and it was the wrong one!
They made the decision to open the road and it was the wrong one! jimbob32
  • Score: 0

10:13pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Rhian1983 says...

Phixer wrote:
jimbob32 wrote:
High Treason wrote:
Rhian1983 wrote:
Surely this is not about people being stuck in their cars for a few hours what is a few hours in comparison to the loss of Daniels life. The investigation here is why was the road re opened who said it was safe to proceed the road ahead when clearly it was not. This is a tragedy because of someone's impatience and incompetence and we want answers. Closing the inquiry is an absolute disgrace. Investigating how the traffic jam could of been handled better is an absolute disgrace, what needs to be investigated is why Daniels death happened and who is responsible.

Rhian
I do not think we should speculate on who is responsible until we have results of the accident
Rhian was not speculating, simply stating that the investigation should be about ' the cause of Daniels death', not that people were held in a queue. Someone thought that a horse being in the road was a dangerous enough reason to close the road, and yet even though the horse had not been found, they then changed their minds and reopened the road resulting in a fatality. Now I know who I would be blaming if I was part of the family, and this is why a serious investigation should be taking place.
That is a matter for the inquest but it doesn't stop an investigation on why people should be stuck in cars for 7 hours. The function of the police is to keep society moving; trapping people and holding them hostage for 7 hours is not the mark of a civilised society.
Holding people HOSTAGE, they all got home safely did they not, one didn't, one person has lost her only son, family and friends will never forget that vibrant young person. The reason why someone made the decision to reopen the road is beyond comprehension to me.
[quote][p][bold]Phixer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jimbob32[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rhian1983[/bold] wrote: Surely this is not about people being stuck in their cars for a few hours what is a few hours in comparison to the loss of Daniels life. The investigation here is why was the road re opened who said it was safe to proceed the road ahead when clearly it was not. This is a tragedy because of someone's impatience and incompetence and we want answers. Closing the inquiry is an absolute disgrace. Investigating how the traffic jam could of been handled better is an absolute disgrace, what needs to be investigated is why Daniels death happened and who is responsible. Rhian[/p][/quote]I do not think we should speculate on who is responsible until we have results of the accident[/p][/quote]Rhian was not speculating, simply stating that the investigation should be about ' the cause of Daniels death', not that people were held in a queue. Someone thought that a horse being in the road was a dangerous enough reason to close the road, and yet even though the horse had not been found, they then changed their minds and reopened the road resulting in a fatality. Now I know who I would be blaming if I was part of the family, and this is why a serious investigation should be taking place.[/p][/quote]That is a matter for the inquest but it doesn't stop an investigation on why people should be stuck in cars for 7 hours. The function of the police is to keep society moving; trapping people and holding them hostage for 7 hours is not the mark of a civilised society.[/p][/quote]Holding people HOSTAGE, they all got home safely did they not, one didn't, one person has lost her only son, family and friends will never forget that vibrant young person. The reason why someone made the decision to reopen the road is beyond comprehension to me. Rhian1983
  • Score: 1

10:16pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Rhian1983 says...

Rhian1983 wrote:
Phixer wrote:
jimbob32 wrote:
High Treason wrote:
Rhian1983 wrote:
Surely this is not about people being stuck in their cars for a few hours what is a few hours in comparison to the loss of Daniels life. The investigation here is why was the road re opened who said it was safe to proceed the road ahead when clearly it was not. This is a tragedy because of someone's impatience and incompetence and we want answers. Closing the inquiry is an absolute disgrace. Investigating how the traffic jam could of been handled better is an absolute disgrace, what needs to be investigated is why Daniels death happened and who is responsible.

Rhian
I do not think we should speculate on who is responsible until we have results of the accident
Rhian was not speculating, simply stating that the investigation should be about ' the cause of Daniels death', not that people were held in a queue. Someone thought that a horse being in the road was a dangerous enough reason to close the road, and yet even though the horse had not been found, they then changed their minds and reopened the road resulting in a fatality. Now I know who I would be blaming if I was part of the family, and this is why a serious investigation should be taking place.
That is a matter for the inquest but it doesn't stop an investigation on why people should be stuck in cars for 7 hours. The function of the police is to keep society moving; trapping people and holding them hostage for 7 hours is not the mark of a civilised society.
Holding people HOSTAGE, they all got home safely did they not, one didn't, one person has lost her only son, family and friends will never forget that vibrant young person. The reason why someone made the decision to reopen the road is beyond comprehension to me.
Rhians mum
[quote][p][bold]Rhian1983[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Phixer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jimbob32[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rhian1983[/bold] wrote: Surely this is not about people being stuck in their cars for a few hours what is a few hours in comparison to the loss of Daniels life. The investigation here is why was the road re opened who said it was safe to proceed the road ahead when clearly it was not. This is a tragedy because of someone's impatience and incompetence and we want answers. Closing the inquiry is an absolute disgrace. Investigating how the traffic jam could of been handled better is an absolute disgrace, what needs to be investigated is why Daniels death happened and who is responsible. Rhian[/p][/quote]I do not think we should speculate on who is responsible until we have results of the accident[/p][/quote]Rhian was not speculating, simply stating that the investigation should be about ' the cause of Daniels death', not that people were held in a queue. Someone thought that a horse being in the road was a dangerous enough reason to close the road, and yet even though the horse had not been found, they then changed their minds and reopened the road resulting in a fatality. Now I know who I would be blaming if I was part of the family, and this is why a serious investigation should be taking place.[/p][/quote]That is a matter for the inquest but it doesn't stop an investigation on why people should be stuck in cars for 7 hours. The function of the police is to keep society moving; trapping people and holding them hostage for 7 hours is not the mark of a civilised society.[/p][/quote]Holding people HOSTAGE, they all got home safely did they not, one didn't, one person has lost her only son, family and friends will never forget that vibrant young person. The reason why someone made the decision to reopen the road is beyond comprehension to me.[/p][/quote]Rhians mum Rhian1983
  • Score: 1

2:16pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Rhian1983 says...

Phixer wrote:
jimbob32 wrote:
High Treason wrote:
Rhian1983 wrote: Surely this is not about people being stuck in their cars for a few hours what is a few hours in comparison to the loss of Daniels life. The investigation here is why was the road re opened who said it was safe to proceed the road ahead when clearly it was not. This is a tragedy because of someone's impatience and incompetence and we want answers. Closing the inquiry is an absolute disgrace. Investigating how the traffic jam could of been handled better is an absolute disgrace, what needs to be investigated is why Daniels death happened and who is responsible. Rhian
I do not think we should speculate on who is responsible until we have results of the accident
Rhian was not speculating, simply stating that the investigation should be about ' the cause of Daniels death', not that people were held in a queue. Someone thought that a horse being in the road was a dangerous enough reason to close the road, and yet even though the horse had not been found, they then changed their minds and reopened the road resulting in a fatality. Now I know who I would be blaming if I was part of the family, and this is why a serious investigation should be taking place.
That is a matter for the inquest but it doesn't stop an investigation on why people should be stuck in cars for 7 hours. The function of the police is to keep society moving; trapping people and holding them hostage for 7 hours is not the mark of a civilised society.
I would rather be kept "hostage" for seven hours than lose my life - a little selfish dont you think !!!
[quote][p][bold]Phixer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jimbob32[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rhian1983[/bold] wrote: Surely this is not about people being stuck in their cars for a few hours what is a few hours in comparison to the loss of Daniels life. The investigation here is why was the road re opened who said it was safe to proceed the road ahead when clearly it was not. This is a tragedy because of someone's impatience and incompetence and we want answers. Closing the inquiry is an absolute disgrace. Investigating how the traffic jam could of been handled better is an absolute disgrace, what needs to be investigated is why Daniels death happened and who is responsible. Rhian[/p][/quote]I do not think we should speculate on who is responsible until we have results of the accident[/p][/quote]Rhian was not speculating, simply stating that the investigation should be about ' the cause of Daniels death', not that people were held in a queue. Someone thought that a horse being in the road was a dangerous enough reason to close the road, and yet even though the horse had not been found, they then changed their minds and reopened the road resulting in a fatality. Now I know who I would be blaming if I was part of the family, and this is why a serious investigation should be taking place.[/p][/quote]That is a matter for the inquest but it doesn't stop an investigation on why people should be stuck in cars for 7 hours. The function of the police is to keep society moving; trapping people and holding them hostage for 7 hours is not the mark of a civilised society.[/p][/quote]I would rather be kept "hostage" for seven hours than lose my life - a little selfish dont you think !!! Rhian1983
  • Score: 1

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