Public toilets in Parkstone could be closed - with traders offering shoppers use of their facilities

Bournemouth Echo: NEW SCHEME: Jubilee Road public toilets could be handed over to the traders NEW SCHEME: Jubilee Road public toilets could be handed over to the traders

THE public toilets in Jubilee Road may be closed and replaced by a community scheme, it has been suggested.

Shops in Parkstone could be offered the chance to take part in the Community Toilet Scheme, which would allow members of the public to use their facilities, if the proposal gets the go-ahead from full council at Borough of Poole.

A recommendation was put before the environment overview and scrutiny committee at Borough of Poole and has been unanimously backed.

The proposal could bring a saving of around £12,500 to the council in the first year.

Currently, the Jubilee Road toilets attract the highest number of complaints out of all of the 32 sites that the council maintains, the committee was told.

Richard Wilson, chairman of Ashley Road Traders’ Association, said that many traders believed that the scheme could potentially increase their customer base.

He said: “The association’s committee believes that it could be of benefit to those traders who opt into the scheme, because it could attract people into the shop to use the toilets and may then purchase something after.

"I know personally that a while ago when Jubilee Road was shut off and people couldn’t access the toilets, the number of people who came into our shop was a lot more than normal.

“I’m going to personally go round to some of the traders and ask how they feel about the scheme.”

Shaun Robson, head of environmental and consumer protection services, said: “The proposal represents an opportunity to improve public toilet provision to members of the public, and strengthen community links in the local centre and to close a facility that reflects poorly on the council.”

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1:26pm Mon 20 Jan 14

we-shall-see says...

The use of community facilities is fine except for one thing - if you are driving in the area and get caught short, you would have to pay for the car park in order to go find a toilet to use. I have had to stop and let my toddler grandchildren use that toilet many times and disgusting and dirty though it is, it is better than them wetting their pants!

This town is full of older people and children who may have problems holding their bladder and need to use a toilet quickly. Shame on the council for closing this one. Yet another public loo gone - so much for "public convenience" :o/
The use of community facilities is fine except for one thing - if you are driving in the area and get caught short, you would have to pay for the car park in order to go find a toilet to use. I have had to stop and let my toddler grandchildren use that toilet many times and disgusting and dirty though it is, it is better than them wetting their pants! This town is full of older people and children who may have problems holding their bladder and need to use a toilet quickly. Shame on the council for closing this one. Yet another public loo gone - so much for "public convenience" :o/ we-shall-see

1:26pm Mon 20 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

What if the traders say no
What if the traders say no kalebmoledirt

1:55pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Narwhal says...

Don't pooh-pooh the idea, it might seem a wee sum to save, but as the old saying goes save a penny and the pounds will look after themselves.
Don't pooh-pooh the idea, it might seem a wee sum to save, but as the old saying goes save a penny and the pounds will look after themselves. Narwhal

2:07pm Mon 20 Jan 14

smhinto says...

Then I suppose the Council will wonder why the less respectful of our community will start urinating up alley-ways etc, and late at night it will be in shop door-ways. Not that I condone this sort of thing, but that is what happened up here in Lincoln when such a stupid idea was introduced.
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Naturally the Council would not have thought of this seeing that they are so out of touch with reality.
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Don't you just love Poole Council !!
Then I suppose the Council will wonder why the less respectful of our community will start urinating up alley-ways etc, and late at night it will be in shop door-ways. Not that I condone this sort of thing, but that is what happened up here in Lincoln when such a stupid idea was introduced. . Naturally the Council would not have thought of this seeing that they are so out of touch with reality. . Don't you just love Poole Council !! smhinto

2:12pm Mon 20 Jan 14

speedy231278 says...

Great response by the council. People complain about the facilities, so rather than renovate them close them, and get the traders to provide them instead.

Seeing as the council gets lots of complaints about itself, how about it shuts entirely, and they let someone else do the job?
Great response by the council. People complain about the facilities, so rather than renovate them close them, and get the traders to provide them instead. Seeing as the council gets lots of complaints about itself, how about it shuts entirely, and they let someone else do the job? speedy231278

2:38pm Mon 20 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Why will closing this lav save more than £2500 more than closing the one in Hamworthy.Is the extra paperwork required when there is a Greggs around the corner
Why will closing this lav save more than £2500 more than closing the one in Hamworthy.Is the extra paperwork required when there is a Greggs around the corner kalebmoledirt

2:48pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Arthur Maureen says...

Great - close that skanky toilet asap!!!!
Great - close that skanky toilet asap!!!! Arthur Maureen

3:05pm Mon 20 Jan 14

suzigirl says...

What happens if a member of the public injures themselves in the toilet - is the shop owner liable? Also what happens if a member of the public causes damage to the toilet? The toilets would also have to meet hygiene standards and be cleaned regularly...........
.. The way things are going there are not going to be any public toliets left. When I go to Dorchester I use the Top of Town car park toilets. They always stink of urine and they are definitely not cleaned regularly. A van sometimes pulls up outside the toilets when I am there and he is in and out in a couple of minutes!
What happens if a member of the public injures themselves in the toilet - is the shop owner liable? Also what happens if a member of the public causes damage to the toilet? The toilets would also have to meet hygiene standards and be cleaned regularly........... .. The way things are going there are not going to be any public toliets left. When I go to Dorchester I use the Top of Town car park toilets. They always stink of urine and they are definitely not cleaned regularly. A van sometimes pulls up outside the toilets when I am there and he is in and out in a couple of minutes! suzigirl

3:12pm Mon 20 Jan 14

boyerboy says...

Richard Wilson, chairman of Ashley Road Traders’ Association, said" that many traders believed that the scheme could potentially increase " is he actually a Trader on the Ashley road now ? Plus what shops will actually have toilets that the public could use ?
Richard Wilson, chairman of Ashley Road Traders’ Association, said" that many traders believed that the scheme could potentially increase " is he actually a Trader on the Ashley road now ? Plus what shops will actually have toilets that the public could use ? boyerboy

3:37pm Mon 20 Jan 14

rayc says...

"The proposal could bring a saving of around £12,500 to the council in the first year."
Amazing how they can find many times that to carry out a few 'improvements' for the Three Town Transport Scheme. The toilets were closed in Broadstone and that has not been a success.
"The proposal could bring a saving of around £12,500 to the council in the first year." Amazing how they can find many times that to carry out a few 'improvements' for the Three Town Transport Scheme. The toilets were closed in Broadstone and that has not been a success. rayc

6:47pm Mon 20 Jan 14

BIGTONE says...

I hope the traders have a jet washer after the punters or wino"s with the screaming Ab Dabs have been in.
I hope the traders have a jet washer after the punters or wino"s with the screaming Ab Dabs have been in. BIGTONE

7:37pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Repo says...

suzigirl wrote:
What happens if a member of the public injures themselves in the toilet - is the shop owner liable? Also what happens if a member of the public causes damage to the toilet? The toilets would also have to meet hygiene standards and be cleaned regularly...........

.. The way things are going there are not going to be any public toliets left. When I go to Dorchester I use the Top of Town car park toilets. They always stink of urine and they are definitely not cleaned regularly. A van sometimes pulls up outside the toilets when I am there and he is in and out in a couple of minutes!
Does he use 2 paper bags just in case?
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: What happens if a member of the public injures themselves in the toilet - is the shop owner liable? Also what happens if a member of the public causes damage to the toilet? The toilets would also have to meet hygiene standards and be cleaned regularly........... .. The way things are going there are not going to be any public toliets left. When I go to Dorchester I use the Top of Town car park toilets. They always stink of urine and they are definitely not cleaned regularly. A van sometimes pulls up outside the toilets when I am there and he is in and out in a couple of minutes![/p][/quote]Does he use 2 paper bags just in case? Repo

8:42pm Mon 20 Jan 14

pete woodley says...

Having Prostate and Bladder cancer i need to use toilets frequently,No toilets no shopping.
Having Prostate and Bladder cancer i need to use toilets frequently,No toilets no shopping. pete woodley

9:44pm Mon 20 Jan 14

nigglygrilly says...

There are advantages and disadvantages to any scheme. Yes people know where this toilet is, but I for one hate using it unless I really have to! One advantage is that a number of traders have already said a provisional yes to the scheme which will increase the number of available toilets along the road and will mean that many shoppers will find themselves nearer to a toilet than having to walk all the way to just one toilet!
Obviously the details will have to be negotiated and insurance policies checked etc but these things will be looked at when decisions are being made.
Richard Wilson is not currently a trader along Ashley Road but the Traders committee unanimously voted for him to be re-elected as chairman of the association and he represents the committee's views not just his own.
There are advantages and disadvantages to any scheme. Yes people know where this toilet is, but I for one hate using it unless I really have to! One advantage is that a number of traders have already said a provisional yes to the scheme which will increase the number of available toilets along the road and will mean that many shoppers will find themselves nearer to a toilet than having to walk all the way to just one toilet! Obviously the details will have to be negotiated and insurance policies checked etc but these things will be looked at when decisions are being made. Richard Wilson is not currently a trader along Ashley Road but the Traders committee unanimously voted for him to be re-elected as chairman of the association and he represents the committee's views not just his own. nigglygrilly

10:38pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Turtlebay says...

What happens when the shops are closed?

Do you have to relieve yourself in a shop doorway?
What happens when the shops are closed? Do you have to relieve yourself in a shop doorway? Turtlebay

10:56pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Yankee1 says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
What if the traders say no
They say no.

Will there be a symbol outside shops that welcome loo visiits?

How about this:

'Spend a pound....and spend a penny!'
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: What if the traders say no[/p][/quote]They say no. Will there be a symbol outside shops that welcome loo visiits? How about this: 'Spend a pound....and spend a penny!' Yankee1

10:57pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Yankee1 says...

suzigirl wrote:
What happens if a member of the public injures themselves in the toilet - is the shop owner liable? Also what happens if a member of the public causes damage to the toilet? The toilets would also have to meet hygiene standards and be cleaned regularly...........

.. The way things are going there are not going to be any public toliets left. When I go to Dorchester I use the Top of Town car park toilets. They always stink of urine and they are definitely not cleaned regularly. A van sometimes pulls up outside the toilets when I am there and he is in and out in a couple of minutes!
Any sane shopowner - or the landlord - carries public liability insurance.

Even your best customer can slip on a carpet..............
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[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: What happens if a member of the public injures themselves in the toilet - is the shop owner liable? Also what happens if a member of the public causes damage to the toilet? The toilets would also have to meet hygiene standards and be cleaned regularly........... .. The way things are going there are not going to be any public toliets left. When I go to Dorchester I use the Top of Town car park toilets. They always stink of urine and they are definitely not cleaned regularly. A van sometimes pulls up outside the toilets when I am there and he is in and out in a couple of minutes![/p][/quote]Any sane shopowner - or the landlord - carries public liability insurance. Even your best customer can slip on a carpet.............. ..... Yankee1

10:58pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Yankee1 says...

pete woodley wrote:
Having Prostate and Bladder cancer i need to use toilets frequently,No toilets no shopping.
Depends.
[quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: Having Prostate and Bladder cancer i need to use toilets frequently,No toilets no shopping.[/p][/quote]Depends. Yankee1

1:31am Tue 21 Jan 14

billd766 says...

I think that the key word here is "public".

They councillors seem to say a lot about the public without doing much about it.

If it a PUBLIC toilet then it is the sole responsibility of the council to clean, maintain and repair ALL public toilets and notto sneakily close one here or there to save money. The toilets are there for the use of all citizens local and visitors and it is the councils duty to maintain them.
I think that the key word here is "public". They councillors seem to say a lot about the public without doing much about it. If it a PUBLIC toilet then it is the sole responsibility of the council to clean, maintain and repair ALL public toilets and notto sneakily close one here or there to save money. The toilets are there for the use of all citizens local and visitors and it is the councils duty to maintain them. billd766

7:49am Tue 21 Jan 14

a.g.o.g. says...

Cholera here we come!
Cholera here we come! a.g.o.g.

9:23am Tue 21 Jan 14

suzigirl says...

Repo wrote:
suzigirl wrote: What happens if a member of the public injures themselves in the toilet - is the shop owner liable? Also what happens if a member of the public causes damage to the toilet? The toilets would also have to meet hygiene standards and be cleaned regularly........... .. The way things are going there are not going to be any public toliets left. When I go to Dorchester I use the Top of Town car park toilets. They always stink of urine and they are definitely not cleaned regularly. A van sometimes pulls up outside the toilets when I am there and he is in and out in a couple of minutes!
Does he use 2 paper bags just in case?
Very funny NOT!
[quote][p][bold]Repo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: What happens if a member of the public injures themselves in the toilet - is the shop owner liable? Also what happens if a member of the public causes damage to the toilet? The toilets would also have to meet hygiene standards and be cleaned regularly........... .. The way things are going there are not going to be any public toliets left. When I go to Dorchester I use the Top of Town car park toilets. They always stink of urine and they are definitely not cleaned regularly. A van sometimes pulls up outside the toilets when I am there and he is in and out in a couple of minutes![/p][/quote]Does he use 2 paper bags just in case?[/p][/quote]Very funny NOT! suzigirl

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