Ex-soldier hits out at council staff calling for him to repaint beach hut in more ‘uniform’ colours

Bournemouth Echo: ‘RIDICULOUS’: John Sandford-Hart with his striped beach hut at Avon beach ‘RIDICULOUS’: John Sandford-Hart with his striped beach hut at Avon beach

AN ex-soldier has hit out at council staff who are demanding that he repaints his traditional beach hut in more ‘uniform’ colours.

Amputee John Sandford-Hart, of Mudeford, bought his hut at Friar’s Cliff five years ago, when it featured the same blue and white stripes that it does today.

However, Christchurch Borough Council workers have now contacted the 47-year-old to tell him he must change the colour scheme by April next year.

Mr Sandford-Hart, who lost his right leg following a boating accident but continues to run marathons for charity, said: “I do feel very strongly indeed about this.

“When I bought the beach hut, it was stripy. I repaint it in fresh colours every year to keep it looking nice and stripy. And now, for some unknown reason, I am being told that stripes are not ‘uniform’.”

The former Territorial Army soldier said he refuses to concede defeat, and will keep the property – which is named Felicity – stripy.

“It’s ridiculous, and I won’t have it,” he said.

“When I first bought Felicity, she looked the same as she does today. I just cannot understand where this is all coming from. I have asked them to give me one actual reason why I suddenly need to change the paint scheme, but they’ve been unable to do that, unsurprisingly.”

He added that stripes are often the first image people have of traditional beach huts.

“If it was painted some awful colour, or had graffiti over it, I would understand,” he said.

“But every year, I make sure it has been repainted, and it’s in lovely condition. It’s absolutely ludicrous.”

Judith Plumley, council head of community and leisure, said beach hut owners were informed two years ago that stripes were not permitted. “The decoration of huts is restricted to avoid contrasting styles which could be detrimental to the overall appearance of the beach huts and promenade,” she said.

“Having been fully informed of the council’s decisions and been allowed plenty of time to make very modest changes most owners have made the necessary modifications.”

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5:53pm Fri 27 Dec 13

60plus says...

Good on him ,it's his beach hut let him paint it what colour he wants,
Good on him ,it's his beach hut let him paint it what colour he wants, 60plus

5:59pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Old Colonial says...

Perhaps it needs to be pointed out to Judith Plumley, council head of community and leisure (whatever that entails), that some of the best exhibition, calendar, and postcard images show beach huts in all their diversity. Isn't that supposed to be one of their attractions? Get a life woman.
Perhaps it needs to be pointed out to Judith Plumley, council head of community and leisure (whatever that entails), that some of the best exhibition, calendar, and postcard images show beach huts in all their diversity. Isn't that supposed to be one of their attractions? Get a life woman. Old Colonial

6:21pm Fri 27 Dec 13

BIGTONE says...

Ve Vill make you comply......
Ve Vill make you comply...... BIGTONE

6:43pm Fri 27 Dec 13

rayc says...

Remember this when councils tell you they need more money to operate their essential services. They obviously have enough to fund a community and leisure department who have too much time on their hands. Too much power as well it would seem.
Remember this when councils tell you they need more money to operate their essential services. They obviously have enough to fund a community and leisure department who have too much time on their hands. Too much power as well it would seem. rayc

6:50pm Fri 27 Dec 13

MMM444 says...

Judith Plumley, What about all the blue and white striped deckchairs ??, Maybe you should change them to, Stop wasting council tax payers money with your pathetic enforcements, and do us all a favour, resign from this pointless no doubt £40 K plus a year pathetic job you have, Rant over
Judith Plumley, What about all the blue and white striped deckchairs ??, Maybe you should change them to, Stop wasting council tax payers money with your pathetic enforcements, and do us all a favour, resign from this pointless no doubt £40 K plus a year pathetic job you have, Rant over MMM444

6:55pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Hessenford says...

I would have thought the council had more pressing problems than what color a beach hut should be, personally I think it looks great, much better that the disgusting colors the council would prefer.
I would have thought the council had more pressing problems than what color a beach hut should be, personally I think it looks great, much better that the disgusting colors the council would prefer. Hessenford

6:55pm Fri 27 Dec 13

nickynoodah says...

Come on you Baggies boing boing.
Come on you Baggies boing boing. nickynoodah

7:23pm Fri 27 Dec 13

kalebmoledirt says...

Why so much emphasis on ex solider ,amputee. Not sure they want special treatment so why as this this man been singled out or as he ? .let's not start treating hero,s as victims they have the same level of dignity and respect as those that choose to portray them as victims by cheap journalism
Why so much emphasis on ex solider ,amputee. Not sure they want special treatment so why as this this man been singled out or as he ? .let's not start treating hero,s as victims they have the same level of dignity and respect as those that choose to portray them as victims by cheap journalism kalebmoledirt

7:33pm Fri 27 Dec 13

politicaltrainspotter says...

I know John.Great bloke.Does a lot for charity.Keep it as it is,mate and stuff the council.
I know John.Great bloke.Does a lot for charity.Keep it as it is,mate and stuff the council. politicaltrainspotter

7:38pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Yer Tis says...

Sorry but this is about the first time I have ever said this of a council or even a councillor but Sieg Heil!

Does the ORIGINAL covenants of the lease say what is or isn't allowed or are the council IMPOSING their will on the Lease Holder!

Hmmmm I wonder


BTW I know hence my rather nasty comments, which as I said is a first for me!
Sorry but this is about the first time I have ever said this of a council or even a councillor but Sieg Heil! Does the ORIGINAL covenants of the lease say what is or isn't allowed or are the council IMPOSING their will on the Lease Holder! Hmmmm I wonder BTW I know hence my rather nasty comments, which as I said is a first for me! Yer Tis

7:59pm Fri 27 Dec 13

nickynoodah says...

It looks very nice John
I don't like the colour of the one on the right
its the same colour as pigs liver
it needs painting in WBAs blue and white stripes
you know
Ignore Judith Plumley I've seen her
and her dress sense
shes colour blind you know
must be to dress like she does.
It looks very nice John I don't like the colour of the one on the right its the same colour as pigs liver it needs painting in WBAs blue and white stripes you know Ignore Judith Plumley I've seen her and her dress sense shes colour blind you know must be to dress like she does. nickynoodah

8:00pm Fri 27 Dec 13

live-and-let-live says...

sickening. why do we allow these jobsworths to dictate to us? fight back. lets all do stripes.
sickening. why do we allow these jobsworths to dictate to us? fight back. lets all do stripes. live-and-let-live

8:03pm Fri 27 Dec 13

High Treason says...

Name: Judith Plumley
Employed in this role since: January, 2011
Salary Band: £59,400 - £66,000.

HOW MUCH!!!!!

Which equates to the council tax of 50 council residents.
Name: Judith Plumley Employed in this role since: January, 2011 Salary Band: £59,400 - £66,000. HOW MUCH!!!!! Which equates to the council tax of 50 council residents. High Treason

8:11pm Fri 27 Dec 13

JHC2 says...

The Beach Hut looks very smart , more QPR than WBA .
Why don't Christchurch do something more constructive with
their time and stop being "jobsworths" .
Remember this waste of time and money when the Elections come !
The Beach Hut looks very smart , more QPR than WBA . Why don't Christchurch do something more constructive with their time and stop being "jobsworths" . Remember this waste of time and money when the Elections come ! JHC2

8:42pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Gordon Clifton says...

High Treason wrote:
Name: Judith Plumley
Employed in this role since: January, 2011
Salary Band: £59,400 - £66,000.

HOW MUCH!!!!!

Which equates to the council tax of 50 council residents.
£59K+????? I have a couple of free days each week - I'll do the job at a fraction of that salary. Can someone post the role description here?
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Name: Judith Plumley Employed in this role since: January, 2011 Salary Band: £59,400 - £66,000. HOW MUCH!!!!! Which equates to the council tax of 50 council residents.[/p][/quote]£59K+????? I have a couple of free days each week - I'll do the job at a fraction of that salary. Can someone post the role description here? Gordon Clifton

8:47pm Fri 27 Dec 13

hooplaa says...

Sack her!
Sack her! hooplaa

9:02pm Fri 27 Dec 13

twynham says...

Part of Ms Plumley's brief is: "Ensure that effective, customer focused systems and services are provided to maintain high levels of service provision and customer satisfaction".
In this instance I would consider it FAIL.
Read more on her cost effective duties here.
http://www.dorsetfor
you.com/404720
Part of Ms Plumley's brief is: "Ensure that effective, customer focused systems and services are provided to maintain high levels of service provision and customer satisfaction". In this instance I would consider it FAIL. Read more on her cost effective duties here. http://www.dorsetfor you.com/404720 twynham

9:05pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Roginthesouth says...

Ignoring irrelevant details, anybody who purchases a beach hut knows very well there are significant limitations on the construction and colours it can be painted. If, you don't like the rules and regulations, then don't buy one!
Ignoring irrelevant details, anybody who purchases a beach hut knows very well there are significant limitations on the construction and colours it can be painted. If, you don't like the rules and regulations, then don't buy one! Roginthesouth

9:40pm Fri 27 Dec 13

steelpaul says...

Roginthesouth wrote:
Ignoring irrelevant details, anybody who purchases a beach hut knows very well there are significant limitations on the construction and colours it can be painted. If, you don't like the rules and regulations, then don't buy one!
And if you try reading the article again, you will find that it was this colour when he bought it!

I agree with the other posters, hut looks great, it's just another example of some jobs worth whose trying to justify her ridiculous salary by moving the goalposts once again, start an e-petition and let's show the council people power
[quote][p][bold]Roginthesouth[/bold] wrote: Ignoring irrelevant details, anybody who purchases a beach hut knows very well there are significant limitations on the construction and colours it can be painted. If, you don't like the rules and regulations, then don't buy one![/p][/quote]And if you try reading the article again, you will find that it was this colour when he bought it! I agree with the other posters, hut looks great, it's just another example of some jobs worth whose trying to justify her ridiculous salary by moving the goalposts once again, start an e-petition and let's show the council people power steelpaul

9:53pm Fri 27 Dec 13

ljw1414 says...

Are there not more important things to worry about in this world ? It shouldn't matter if it's lime green with purple spots ,it's his beach hut !
Are there not more important things to worry about in this world ? It shouldn't matter if it's lime green with purple spots ,it's his beach hut ! ljw1414

10:08pm Fri 27 Dec 13

muscliffman says...

High Treason wrote:
Name: Judith Plumley
Employed in this role since: January, 2011
Salary Band: £59,400 - £66,000.

HOW MUCH!!!!!

Which equates to the council tax of 50 council residents.
Around £60-66,000 p/a? It would be interesting to know what this sort of Council jobsworth could expect to earn outside their public sector career doing something useful....... like actually creating some wealth.

The beach hut looks fine!
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Name: Judith Plumley Employed in this role since: January, 2011 Salary Band: £59,400 - £66,000. HOW MUCH!!!!! Which equates to the council tax of 50 council residents.[/p][/quote]Around £60-66,000 p/a? It would be interesting to know what this sort of Council jobsworth could expect to earn outside their public sector career doing something useful....... like actually creating some wealth. The beach hut looks fine! muscliffman

10:32pm Fri 27 Dec 13

chelsea53 says...

Regardless of the cheap journalism of ex soldier etc. I have often walked passed this hut and thought how nice it looks. The ones that need to change colour are the awful regulation green huts. Nothing wrong with this. Get a life Christchurch council and send out the road sweepers all the way up the Somerford road to clear the drains and leave people in peace in their huts.
Regardless of the cheap journalism of ex soldier etc. I have often walked passed this hut and thought how nice it looks. The ones that need to change colour are the awful regulation green huts. Nothing wrong with this. Get a life Christchurch council and send out the road sweepers all the way up the Somerford road to clear the drains and leave people in peace in their huts. chelsea53

10:40pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Old Colonial says...

chelsea53 wrote:
Regardless of the cheap journalism of ex soldier etc. I have often walked passed this hut and thought how nice it looks. The ones that need to change colour are the awful regulation green huts. Nothing wrong with this. Get a life Christchurch council and send out the road sweepers all the way up the Somerford road to clear the drains and leave people in peace in their huts.
Perhaps Ms P would be better employed on drain duty.
[quote][p][bold]chelsea53[/bold] wrote: Regardless of the cheap journalism of ex soldier etc. I have often walked passed this hut and thought how nice it looks. The ones that need to change colour are the awful regulation green huts. Nothing wrong with this. Get a life Christchurch council and send out the road sweepers all the way up the Somerford road to clear the drains and leave people in peace in their huts.[/p][/quote]Perhaps Ms P would be better employed on drain duty. Old Colonial

11:17pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Bournefre says...

Whatever happened to Echo readers' love of obeying the rules or facing the consequences?
When most people think of beach huts they usually imagine rows of uniform sheds, not stripes. It may have had stripes on it when he bought the hut, but he paints it every year so that makes no difference. Besides, if the shed had a leaking roof when he bought it that's no reason to keep it that way. I'm sure John Sandford-Hart would be the first to complain if the owners of the hut next to his decided to build an extra storey, or buy the hut next door and replace the two with one double width hut, stripy or otherwise.

Presumably the stuff about him being in the TA, or an 'ex soldier' and losing his leg in a boating accident is included in an attempt to curry favour with the readers, like when they round up a load of kids (preferably disabled ones) for the photo.
Whatever happened to Echo readers' love of obeying the rules or facing the consequences? When most people think of beach huts they usually imagine rows of uniform sheds, not stripes. It may have had stripes on it when he bought the hut, but he paints it every year so that makes no difference. Besides, if the shed had a leaking roof when he bought it that's no reason to keep it that way. I'm sure John Sandford-Hart would be the first to complain if the owners of the hut next to his decided to build an extra storey, or buy the hut next door and replace the two with one double width hut, stripy or otherwise. Presumably the stuff about him being in the TA, or an 'ex soldier' and losing his leg in a boating accident is included in an attempt to curry favour with the readers, like when they round up a load of kids (preferably disabled ones) for the photo. Bournefre

12:03am Sat 28 Dec 13

Mike Pickering says...

I feel it would behoove Ms P to explain more clearly what it is about stripes that is offensive to the authorities.
She has vaguely indicated that the paint design of the beach hut is 'not uniform', but of course nothing is - the huts are of different colours, each.
What would be the justification for requiring only one colour per hut ?

“The decoration of huts is restricted to avoid contrasting styles which could be detrimental to the overall appearance of the beach huts and promenade,”

This message indicates an implicit assumption that contrast is detrimental to the design wished for the promenade, but as a professional designer or some years, I can, as a free consultative gesture to the council, advise that contrast is an essential element of design, as much as repetition and proportion. I would go so far as to say that the particular design of each hut falls outside the remit of the council to act on behalf of the residents.
This would be a polite way of telling Ms Plumley to sod off, which I would be too scared to do.
I feel it would behoove Ms P to explain more clearly what it is about stripes that is offensive to the authorities. She has vaguely indicated that the paint design of the beach hut is 'not uniform', but of course nothing is - the huts are of different colours, each. What would be the justification for requiring only one colour per hut ? “The decoration of huts is restricted to avoid contrasting styles which could be detrimental to the overall appearance of the beach huts and promenade,” This message indicates an implicit assumption that contrast is detrimental to the design wished for the promenade, but as a professional designer or some years, I can, as a free consultative gesture to the council, advise that contrast is an essential element of design, as much as repetition and proportion. I would go so far as to say that the particular design of each hut falls outside the remit of the council to act on behalf of the residents. This would be a polite way of telling Ms Plumley to sod off, which I would be too scared to do. Mike Pickering

4:00am Sat 28 Dec 13

echor23 says...

Good old council stepping in and demanding for the most trivial of things and yet he's actually done nothing wrong! He's kept up the painting of his beach hut which you would think most councils would be pleased about but no! It's actually laughable.
Why can't you leave this man alone and concentrate on things that matter in the town like anti social behaviour, vandalism, homelessness etc etc etc?
The council really are a pitiful group of bitter people working on pitiful things each and every day.
Good old council stepping in and demanding for the most trivial of things and yet he's actually done nothing wrong! He's kept up the painting of his beach hut which you would think most councils would be pleased about but no! It's actually laughable. Why can't you leave this man alone and concentrate on things that matter in the town like anti social behaviour, vandalism, homelessness etc etc etc? The council really are a pitiful group of bitter people working on pitiful things each and every day. echor23

5:22am Sat 28 Dec 13

The Witch says...

Having been a former owner of a beach hut very close to this one, I know that this particular beach hut has been this colour for several years so why do the council now decide to make such an issue of it? Other seaside towns allow their beach huts to be painted various colours so why not Christchurch. However, having said that you are told in your lease agreement what is permitted and what is not and this is not just colour but size of hut and there are many huts on Friars Cliff beach which do not adhere to these rules, so why is Ms Plumley making such an issue about this particular one? Another post within the council which could disappear and save the taxpayer money.
Having been a former owner of a beach hut very close to this one, I know that this particular beach hut has been this colour for several years so why do the council now decide to make such an issue of it? Other seaside towns allow their beach huts to be painted various colours so why not Christchurch. However, having said that you are told in your lease agreement what is permitted and what is not and this is not just colour but size of hut and there are many huts on Friars Cliff beach which do not adhere to these rules, so why is Ms Plumley making such an issue about this particular one? Another post within the council which could disappear and save the taxpayer money. The Witch

7:28am Sat 28 Dec 13

kalebmoledirt says...

When you earn nearly as much as the prime minister you need to show your authority every now and again
When you earn nearly as much as the prime minister you need to show your authority every now and again kalebmoledirt

7:45am Sat 28 Dec 13

anigel says...

Seems to me that it is the council that needs to make some very modest changes to their attitude. They have had years to do it and failed to do so.
Seems to me that it is the council that needs to make some very modest changes to their attitude. They have had years to do it and failed to do so. anigel

8:39am Sat 28 Dec 13

ohnonothimagen says...

John, your beach hut looks absolutely wonderful and it would be great if other beach hut owners smartened theirs up too. It would look so picturesque and cheerful to see a line of beach huts all painted in bright colours. Don't ever give in to these overpaid, waste of time, council staff. I'm with you all the way.
John, your beach hut looks absolutely wonderful and it would be great if other beach hut owners smartened theirs up too. It would look so picturesque and cheerful to see a line of beach huts all painted in bright colours. Don't ever give in to these overpaid, waste of time, council staff. I'm with you all the way. ohnonothimagen

8:43am Sat 28 Dec 13

Lord Spring says...

If it is Blue and White stripes well he should change it to White and Blue hoops . Harry would approve it.
If it is Blue and White stripes well he should change it to White and Blue hoops . Harry would approve it. Lord Spring

8:48am Sat 28 Dec 13

Phixer says...

twynham wrote:
Part of Ms Plumley's brief is: "Ensure that effective, customer focused systems and services are provided to maintain high levels of service provision and customer satisfaction".
In this instance I would consider it FAIL.
Read more on her cost effective duties here.
http://www.dorsetfor

you.com/404720
She is paid by local taxpayers to look after the interests of those same taxpayers - not to impose her own dictatorial views.

She is our employee; no doubt many will be pleased to accept her resignation on our behalf.
[quote][p][bold]twynham[/bold] wrote: Part of Ms Plumley's brief is: "Ensure that effective, customer focused systems and services are provided to maintain high levels of service provision and customer satisfaction". In this instance I would consider it FAIL. Read more on her cost effective duties here. http://www.dorsetfor you.com/404720[/p][/quote]She is paid by local taxpayers to look after the interests of those same taxpayers - not to impose her own dictatorial views. She is our employee; no doubt many will be pleased to accept her resignation on our behalf. Phixer

8:54am Sat 28 Dec 13

ohnonothimagen says...

Roginthesouth wrote:
Ignoring irrelevant details, anybody who purchases a beach hut knows very well there are significant limitations on the construction and colours it can be painted. If, you don't like the rules and regulations, then don't buy one!
Not really a very worthy comment you've made, is it? The beach hut was painted in this style when John bought it!
[quote][p][bold]Roginthesouth[/bold] wrote: Ignoring irrelevant details, anybody who purchases a beach hut knows very well there are significant limitations on the construction and colours it can be painted. If, you don't like the rules and regulations, then don't buy one![/p][/quote]Not really a very worthy comment you've made, is it? The beach hut was painted in this style when John bought it! ohnonothimagen

9:23am Sat 28 Dec 13

tobybruce says...

over the top Bureaucracy, leave him alone the colours are quite tame.
over the top Bureaucracy, leave him alone the colours are quite tame. tobybruce

9:37am Sat 28 Dec 13

MissAnne says...

How preposterous, ignore the council, they are talking rubbish. the beach hut looks lovely. Individuality is key in life.
How preposterous, ignore the council, they are talking rubbish. the beach hut looks lovely. Individuality is key in life. MissAnne

9:43am Sat 28 Dec 13

Reader Echo says...

ohnonothimagen wrote:
Roginthesouth wrote:
Ignoring irrelevant details, anybody who purchases a beach hut knows very well there are significant limitations on the construction and colours it can be painted. If, you don't like the rules and regulations, then don't buy one!
Not really a very worthy comment you've made, is it? The beach hut was painted in this style when John bought it!
I think that your comment is not a 'very worthy comment'.

I'm afraid it makes no difference what colour it was when it was purchased.

When a property is purchased/rented you agree to abide by the restrictions in the tenure/leasehold (in this case). If you don't, then you could be legally made to conform.

So regardless of what you may think about the colour etc,etc if the council want to pursue the matter they will win at the end of the day, unfortunately costing John money in the process.

However in my opinion the beachut looks fine in the colours it is in, and yes I do think it seems like a waste of money even bringing the matter up by the council. Beach huts in other parts of the county are left to the lessee to paint in what ever colour they choose.
[quote][p][bold]ohnonothimagen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roginthesouth[/bold] wrote: Ignoring irrelevant details, anybody who purchases a beach hut knows very well there are significant limitations on the construction and colours it can be painted. If, you don't like the rules and regulations, then don't buy one![/p][/quote]Not really a very worthy comment you've made, is it? The beach hut was painted in this style when John bought it![/p][/quote]I think that your comment is not a 'very worthy comment'. I'm afraid it makes no difference what colour it was when it was purchased. When a property is purchased/rented you agree to abide by the restrictions in the tenure/leasehold (in this case). If you don't, then you could be legally made to conform. So regardless of what you may think about the colour etc,etc if the council want to pursue the matter they will win at the end of the day, unfortunately costing John money in the process. However in my opinion the beachut looks fine in the colours it is in, and yes I do think it seems like a waste of money even bringing the matter up by the council. Beach huts in other parts of the county are left to the lessee to paint in what ever colour they choose. Reader Echo

10:01am Sat 28 Dec 13

4stands says...

What does being an amputee have to do with anything?
What does being an amputee have to do with anything? 4stands

10:18am Sat 28 Dec 13

skydriver says...

Good for you, we have to stand up to these councils,and councillors, just who do they think they are , ...nothing more than our representatives . From the top to the bottom of the pile they have become a pain in the bottom These people should be working with the people of Christchurch,not against them . .When will they realise .....oh of course when it's time to vote they will be prowling around begging for us to vote them in. So this is yet another fiasco brought on by OUR council. Time for a change I feel.
Good for you, we have to stand up to these councils,and councillors, just who do they think they are , ...nothing more than our representatives . From the top to the bottom of the pile they have become a pain in the bottom These people should be working with the people of Christchurch,not against them . .When will they realise .....oh of course when it's time to vote they will be prowling around begging for us to vote them in. So this is yet another fiasco brought on by OUR council. Time for a change I feel. skydriver

10:23am Sat 28 Dec 13

Western Sunset says...

This is not the place for a personal vendetta against an individual council employee, no matter how daft we may think their policy is towards the exterior finish of beach huts.

Neither should the "Echo" be bigging-up the fact that Mr Sandford-Hart is a disabled ex-soldier. He's obviously capable of looking after a beach hut so his personal circumstances are irrelevant. Of course, in journalistic eyes these facts are seen as adding to the story.

I don't know what the council regulations are, but it looks like they need to be reviewed. "Felicity" the beach hut looks very smart to me; nothing over the top there. She looks much better than the ones either side of her. The one on the right doesn't even look as if it's been painted at all.

Methinks the council should be spending their time and energy on more important things within the community.
This is not the place for a personal vendetta against an individual council employee, no matter how daft we may think their policy is towards the exterior finish of beach huts. Neither should the "Echo" be bigging-up the fact that Mr Sandford-Hart is a disabled ex-soldier. He's obviously capable of looking after a beach hut so his personal circumstances are irrelevant. Of course, in journalistic eyes these facts are seen as adding to the story. I don't know what the council regulations are, but it looks like they need to be reviewed. "Felicity" the beach hut looks very smart to me; nothing over the top there. She looks much better than the ones either side of her. The one on the right doesn't even look as if it's been painted at all. Methinks the council should be spending their time and energy on more important things within the community. Western Sunset

10:37am Sat 28 Dec 13

speedy231278 says...

Roginthesouth wrote:
Ignoring irrelevant details, anybody who purchases a beach hut knows very well there are significant limitations on the construction and colours it can be painted. If, you don't like the rules and regulations, then don't buy one!
Then why did the council not paint it plain before selling it on?
[quote][p][bold]Roginthesouth[/bold] wrote: Ignoring irrelevant details, anybody who purchases a beach hut knows very well there are significant limitations on the construction and colours it can be painted. If, you don't like the rules and regulations, then don't buy one![/p][/quote]Then why did the council not paint it plain before selling it on? speedy231278

10:42am Sat 28 Dec 13

speedy231278 says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
When you earn nearly as much as the prime minister you need to show your authority every now and again
She earns nearly the same as an MP. The PM gets paid double an MPs salary. £66396 versus £142500. The PM gets paid a salary as an MP plus about £76K extra for trying to kill off all the elderly, sick and disabled people.
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: When you earn nearly as much as the prime minister you need to show your authority every now and again[/p][/quote]She earns nearly the same as an MP. The PM gets paid double an MPs salary. £66396 versus £142500. The PM gets paid a salary as an MP plus about £76K extra for trying to kill off all the elderly, sick and disabled people. speedy231278

10:50am Sat 28 Dec 13

The-Bleeding-Obvious says...

The Ex-soldier should do as the headline is suggesting.
Re-paint the hut in standard uniform camouflage pattern and colours, with any luck the jobsworths won't notice!
The Ex-soldier should do as the headline is suggesting. Re-paint the hut in standard uniform camouflage pattern and colours, with any luck the jobsworths won't notice! The-Bleeding-Obvious

11:29am Sat 28 Dec 13

Gonetothebeach says...

Personally, I think the striped hut looks great - and wouldn't it be fab if other owners joined in to create a really vibrant, colourful seaside scene! Yes - there have to be some limits, so let's not pillory individual council officers for seeking to enforce the Council's policy - just get your councillors to adopt a new policy that is less stuffy!
Personally, I think the striped hut looks great - and wouldn't it be fab if other owners joined in to create a really vibrant, colourful seaside scene! Yes - there have to be some limits, so let's not pillory individual council officers for seeking to enforce the Council's policy - just get your councillors to adopt a new policy that is less stuffy! Gonetothebeach

11:42am Sat 28 Dec 13

BmthNewshound says...

High Treason wrote:
Name: Judith Plumley
Employed in this role since: January, 2011
Salary Band: £59,400 - £66,000.

HOW MUCH!!!!!

Which equates to the council tax of 50 council residents.
Pity the BBC programme That's Life isn't still being broadcast, Ms Plumbley would be a worthy recipient of the Jobsworth Award.
.
Rather than victimise John in this way he should be praised for taking pride in his beach hut. Ms Plumbley is obviously a woman with far too much time on her hands perhaps the Council should find her something more worthwhile to do with her time or better still save the taxpayers some money by scrapping her job.
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Name: Judith Plumley Employed in this role since: January, 2011 Salary Band: £59,400 - £66,000. HOW MUCH!!!!! Which equates to the council tax of 50 council residents.[/p][/quote]Pity the BBC programme That's Life isn't still being broadcast, Ms Plumbley would be a worthy recipient of the Jobsworth Award. . Rather than victimise John in this way he should be praised for taking pride in his beach hut. Ms Plumbley is obviously a woman with far too much time on her hands perhaps the Council should find her something more worthwhile to do with her time or better still save the taxpayers some money by scrapping her job. BmthNewshound

12:36pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Evo1978 says...

60+ THOUSAND POUNDS a year?!!, She is one of many on this kind of salary with name badges the length of your arm to accommodate these ridiculous titles they give themselves in their pointless meetings! The thing is theres one for Christchurch, one for Bournemouth another for Poole, Purbeck, North Dorset, East Dorset. You name it, theres another 60K job with a long name badge included.

Nice Beach hut by the way!
60+ THOUSAND POUNDS a year?!!, She is one of many on this kind of salary with name badges the length of your arm to accommodate these ridiculous titles they give themselves in their pointless meetings! The thing is theres one for Christchurch, one for Bournemouth another for Poole, Purbeck, North Dorset, East Dorset. You name it, theres another 60K job with a long name badge included. Nice Beach hut by the way! Evo1978

1:06pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Vikki27 says...

You know what? If they make him change it, I say we all band together, sneak there overnight and paint it back! HA!
You know what? If they make him change it, I say we all band together, sneak there overnight and paint it back! HA! Vikki27

1:14pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Ophilum says...

Paint it Brown like the council idiot.
Paint it Brown like the council idiot. Ophilum

1:26pm Sat 28 Dec 13

kalebmoledirt says...

speedy231278 wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
When you earn nearly as much as the prime minister you need to show your authority every now and again
She earns nearly the same as an MP. The PM gets paid double an MPs salary. £66396 versus £142500. The PM gets paid a salary as an MP plus about £76K extra for trying to kill off all the elderly, sick and disabled people.
So the PM could order him to paint and reroof his shed,thanks speedy ,PS how much does Eddie Jordon get per show ?
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: When you earn nearly as much as the prime minister you need to show your authority every now and again[/p][/quote]She earns nearly the same as an MP. The PM gets paid double an MPs salary. £66396 versus £142500. The PM gets paid a salary as an MP plus about £76K extra for trying to kill off all the elderly, sick and disabled people.[/p][/quote]So the PM could order him to paint and reroof his shed,thanks speedy ,PS how much does Eddie Jordon get per show ? kalebmoledirt

1:53pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Reader Echo says...

Vikki27 wrote:
You know what? If they make him change it, I say we all band together, sneak there overnight and paint it back! HA!
Perhaps you would like to pick up the legal costs that Mr Sandford-Hart could be saddled with when some idiot actually takes your advice? HA!
[quote][p][bold]Vikki27[/bold] wrote: You know what? If they make him change it, I say we all band together, sneak there overnight and paint it back! HA![/p][/quote]Perhaps you would like to pick up the legal costs that Mr Sandford-Hart could be saddled with when some idiot actually takes your advice? HA! Reader Echo

2:19pm Sat 28 Dec 13

nickynoodah says...

you in the army then George,
which one
SALVATION
is that where you learned to bang a drum.
you in the army then George, which one SALVATION is that where you learned to bang a drum. nickynoodah

2:29pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Buddles says...

I think the stripey beach hut looks lovely. As others have pointed out, there are stripey deckchairs and stripey wind breaks for the beach so why not stripey beach huts. This is England not a Nazi-occupied country (though sometimes I do wonder).
I think the stripey beach hut looks lovely. As others have pointed out, there are stripey deckchairs and stripey wind breaks for the beach so why not stripey beach huts. This is England not a Nazi-occupied country (though sometimes I do wonder). Buddles

3:34pm Sat 28 Dec 13

seaviews says...

Part of her job is to 'Promote the Councils commitment to valuing diversity' which if nothing else she is failing to do.
Part of her job is to 'Promote the Councils commitment to valuing diversity' which if nothing else she is failing to do. seaviews

3:51pm Sat 28 Dec 13

harryonthecoast says...

60plus wrote:
Good on him ,it's his beach hut let him paint it what colour he wants,
Couldn't agree more.Pity the council have nothing more to worry about
[quote][p][bold]60plus[/bold] wrote: Good on him ,it's his beach hut let him paint it what colour he wants,[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more.Pity the council have nothing more to worry about harryonthecoast

3:57pm Sat 28 Dec 13

keith milton says...

OBEY your masters,
OBEY your masters, keith milton

4:16pm Sat 28 Dec 13

simcal says...

Who exactly decide what is an appropriate colour anyway? It's very subjective.
Reminds me of those lovely painted cottages at Ballornoray. I can think of so many other things that should be sorted before this. It's not as if it's permanent anyway.
Who exactly decide what is an appropriate colour anyway? It's very subjective. Reminds me of those lovely painted cottages at Ballornoray. I can think of so many other things that should be sorted before this. It's not as if it's permanent anyway. simcal

4:32pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Lindalegs says...

I have lived in the States for 30+ years, but grew up in Westbourne (Went to BSG) in the 50s. We had a private beach hut on the Cloisters at Alum Chine. I believe we could have had it any colour (Except maybe bright red or royal blue) but my father always had it dark green to go with the others. On the other hand, my aunties rented a council hut on the promenade in the direction of the pier. They had to have theirs green, as it was in their lease.
However, Mr Sanford Hart, ....................
............... I think the stripes are PERFECT. So beachy and fresh, and if you look in any of hundreds of magazines about homes, architecture, even food, you will see that almost ALL beach inspired homes, huts, even table decor etc., is light blue with white, or pale yellow, or even pale grey.
It's a matter of good taste and pleasing surroundings with are good for one's health and well being.
Bournemouth is known for being picturesque and old fashioned and I think the colours should reflect that!
(I think that intimating that the man was a 'war hero' was bad journalism. He does not need any more sympathy that what he deserves for being bullied by the awful sounding Plumley woman)
I have lived in the States for 30+ years, but grew up in Westbourne (Went to BSG) in the 50s. We had a private beach hut on the Cloisters at Alum Chine. I believe we could have had it any colour (Except maybe bright red or royal blue) but my father always had it dark green to go with the others. On the other hand, my aunties rented a council hut on the promenade in the direction of the pier. They had to have theirs green, as it was in their lease. However, Mr Sanford Hart, .................... ............... I think the stripes are PERFECT. So beachy and fresh, and if you look in any of hundreds of magazines about homes, architecture, even food, you will see that almost ALL beach inspired homes, huts, even table decor etc., is light blue with white, or pale yellow, or even pale grey. It's a matter of good taste and pleasing surroundings with are good for one's health and well being. Bournemouth is known for being picturesque and old fashioned and I think the colours should reflect that! (I think that intimating that the man was a 'war hero' was bad journalism. He does not need any more sympathy that what he deserves for being bullied by the awful sounding Plumley woman) Lindalegs

4:49pm Sat 28 Dec 13

O'Reilly says...

Do they want him to paint it in camo colours? That would be more uniform........
Do they want him to paint it in camo colours? That would be more uniform........ O'Reilly

5:02pm Sat 28 Dec 13

O'Reilly says...

What's this that comes to my attention....?

http://www.theguardi
an.com/travel/2008/j
ul/05/fivebest.beach


Hello, hello! ...calling Ms Plumley...come in Ms Plumley.....
What's this that comes to my attention....? http://www.theguardi an.com/travel/2008/j ul/05/fivebest.beach Hello, hello! ...calling Ms Plumley...come in Ms Plumley..... O'Reilly

6:26pm Sat 28 Dec 13

stumpy123 says...

papers report thing to get a reaction, Don't blame me for that, I don't write it.
I started in the Ta like a lot of guys when i was 16. I left 18 mths ago lastly training Norwegians,not in the TA . Yes it need not have been used. The point I think they were making is the council pick on everyone.
The point here is that we live in a tourism town and business needs the pull whatever it is. The main part of the area is the beach and its facilities, including the cafe's and beach huts.
My hut was painted for several years before I bought it in stripe. I have only refreshed it every year in the same colour. We have to pay about £600 a year to have the hut there and are now told that they need to look drab and regimented. I defy anyone to say that a beach hut looks wrong striped. More so I would say the first thought of a beach hut IS 'Stripes'.
So no offence meant by me or the paper for a silly old guy with one leg. I have done about 15 years of charity for several forces and childrens charities and I guess the paper was just looking as all journalism for an angle. Lets get to the main story nad not just use this as a way to sound off because its Xmas..............Hu
mbug. :-) !! john S.H
papers report thing to get a reaction, Don't blame me for that, I don't write it. I started in the Ta like a lot of guys when i was 16. I left 18 mths ago lastly training Norwegians,not in the TA . Yes it need not have been used. The point I think they were making is the council pick on everyone. The point here is that we live in a tourism town and business needs the pull whatever it is. The main part of the area is the beach and its facilities, including the cafe's and beach huts. My hut was painted for several years before I bought it in stripe. I have only refreshed it every year in the same colour. We have to pay about £600 a year to have the hut there and are now told that they need to look drab and regimented. I defy anyone to say that a beach hut looks wrong striped. More so I would say the first thought of a beach hut IS 'Stripes'. So no offence meant by me or the paper for a silly old guy with one leg. I have done about 15 years of charity for several forces and childrens charities and I guess the paper was just looking as all journalism for an angle. Lets get to the main story nad not just use this as a way to sound off because its Xmas..............Hu mbug. :-) !! john S.H stumpy123

7:13pm Sat 28 Dec 13

BoscombeWarLord says...

The council and its muppets are adept at hounding tax payers over trivial matters. Sadly when the travelers/degenerate
s descend in droves during Easter/Summer period nothing is done about their illegal encampments, littering, dog fouling, noise, mayhem, destruction, abusive behaviour.

Judith Plumley you jumped up jobsworth instead of harassing some poor sod in his beach hut get down the Rec wherever they might be or and move the gypsies on!
The council and its muppets are adept at hounding tax payers over trivial matters. Sadly when the travelers/degenerate s descend in droves during Easter/Summer period nothing is done about their illegal encampments, littering, dog fouling, noise, mayhem, destruction, abusive behaviour. Judith Plumley you jumped up jobsworth instead of harassing some poor sod in his beach hut get down the Rec wherever they might be or and move the gypsies on! BoscombeWarLord

7:19pm Sat 28 Dec 13

The-Bleeding-Obvious says...

This is why we need Swiss style direct democracy. Do away with councillors, we're all connected to the net so lets have e-government via our PCs!
This is why we need Swiss style direct democracy. Do away with councillors, we're all connected to the net so lets have e-government via our PCs! The-Bleeding-Obvious

7:51pm Sat 28 Dec 13

kalebmoledirt says...

Let,s hear from the Mr Sandford Holmes as to what this debate as impacted on his mispainted shed
Let,s hear from the Mr Sandford Holmes as to what this debate as impacted on his mispainted shed kalebmoledirt

8:50pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Vikki27 says...

Reader Echo wrote:
Vikki27 wrote:
You know what? If they make him change it, I say we all band together, sneak there overnight and paint it back! HA!
Perhaps you would like to pick up the legal costs that Mr Sandford-Hart could be saddled with when some idiot actually takes your advice? HA!
Oh how clever of you!

Now if only we could hold a collection to buy you a sense of humour you could read my post and realise it was a joke!
[quote][p][bold]Reader Echo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Vikki27[/bold] wrote: You know what? If they make him change it, I say we all band together, sneak there overnight and paint it back! HA![/p][/quote]Perhaps you would like to pick up the legal costs that Mr Sandford-Hart could be saddled with when some idiot actually takes your advice? HA![/p][/quote]Oh how clever of you! Now if only we could hold a collection to buy you a sense of humour you could read my post and realise it was a joke! Vikki27

11:06pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Yankee1 says...

4stands wrote:
What does being an amputee have to do with anything?
If the gentlemen were an Olympic Gold medal winner, the Echo would still look for a 'slant'.

This story is worthy on its own merit: I would headline it 'Council Employee Steps in the Merde!'.
[quote][p][bold]4stands[/bold] wrote: What does being an amputee have to do with anything?[/p][/quote]If the gentlemen were an Olympic Gold medal winner, the Echo would still look for a 'slant'. This story is worthy on its own merit: I would headline it 'Council Employee Steps in the Merde!'. Yankee1

11:17pm Sat 28 Dec 13

rusty james says...

How sad. The hut looks great. Don't give in to the grey thinking pencil necked by-the-book dullard.
How sad. The hut looks great. Don't give in to the grey thinking pencil necked by-the-book dullard. rusty james

12:00am Sun 29 Dec 13

whataboutthat says...

I think we should all go down in the Spring and spray the beach huts with spots. Hirst gets a way with this in his shi# art. Is this sugestion illegal? Don't worry. I won't come quietly...
I think we should all go down in the Spring and spray the beach huts with spots. Hirst gets a way with this in his shi# art. Is this sugestion illegal? Don't worry. I won't come quietly... whataboutthat

5:10am Sun 29 Dec 13

Old Boscombe Lad says...

Tell her I don't like the colour of her house. Go and repaint it!
Tell her I don't like the colour of her house. Go and repaint it! Old Boscombe Lad

8:25am Sun 29 Dec 13

stumpy123 says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
Let,s hear from the Mr Sandford Holmes as to what this debate as impacted on his mispainted shed
erm its open for a fee cuppa tea sunday morning between 10 and 12 ! :-/
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Let,s hear from the Mr Sandford Holmes as to what this debate as impacted on his mispainted shed[/p][/quote]erm its open for a fee cuppa tea sunday morning between 10 and 12 ! :-/ stumpy123

9:03am Sun 29 Dec 13

nickynoodah says...

This tiny hut needs some balloons and buntings flags and get the visitors to Boing Boing on the beach and prom
paint the prom wall Poole to Bournemouth in the Baggies colours
and attract millions of Brummies from up north
Take them all to Boscombe and Bournmouth town centres where they cannot see the sea
they will think they are back home in Handsworth
It looks the same you know.
This tiny hut needs some balloons and buntings flags and get the visitors to Boing Boing on the beach and prom paint the prom wall Poole to Bournemouth in the Baggies colours and attract millions of Brummies from up north Take them all to Boscombe and Bournmouth town centres where they cannot see the sea they will think they are back home in Handsworth It looks the same you know. nickynoodah

10:29am Sun 29 Dec 13

The Witch says...

speedy231278 wrote:
Roginthesouth wrote:
Ignoring irrelevant details, anybody who purchases a beach hut knows very well there are significant limitations on the construction and colours it can be painted. If, you don't like the rules and regulations, then don't buy one!
Then why did the council not paint it plain before selling it on?
The council don't own these beach huts, each beach hut is individual owned they only own the land that the beach huts are placed on and this is what you pay your lease for.
Quite a few of the beach huts are owned by people who do not live within the borough and they have to pay more for their lease than those who are paying CBC tax or at least this was the case when I owned mine. I think I'm right in saying that the council also take a fee for change of ownership?
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roginthesouth[/bold] wrote: Ignoring irrelevant details, anybody who purchases a beach hut knows very well there are significant limitations on the construction and colours it can be painted. If, you don't like the rules and regulations, then don't buy one![/p][/quote]Then why did the council not paint it plain before selling it on?[/p][/quote]The council don't own these beach huts, each beach hut is individual owned they only own the land that the beach huts are placed on and this is what you pay your lease for. Quite a few of the beach huts are owned by people who do not live within the borough and they have to pay more for their lease than those who are paying CBC tax or at least this was the case when I owned mine. I think I'm right in saying that the council also take a fee for change of ownership? The Witch

10:37am Sun 29 Dec 13

Ayles 10 says...

I think it looks lovely! The brightly painted beach huts are part of the Mudeford attraction in my opinion
I think it looks lovely! The brightly painted beach huts are part of the Mudeford attraction in my opinion Ayles 10

11:43am Sun 29 Dec 13

fedupwithjobsworths says...

High Treason wrote:
Name: Judith Plumley
Employed in this role since: January, 2011
Salary Band: £59,400 - £66,000.

HOW MUCH!!!!!

Which equates to the council tax of 50 council residents.
You must also add 20% to this figure to cover funding of her gold plated pension - the Council Tax of 60 residents!
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Name: Judith Plumley Employed in this role since: January, 2011 Salary Band: £59,400 - £66,000. HOW MUCH!!!!! Which equates to the council tax of 50 council residents.[/p][/quote]You must also add 20% to this figure to cover funding of her gold plated pension - the Council Tax of 60 residents! fedupwithjobsworths

12:00pm Sun 29 Dec 13

stevobath says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
Why so much emphasis on ex solider ,amputee. Not sure they want special treatment so why as this this man been singled out or as he ? .let's not start treating hero,s as victims they have the same level of dignity and respect as those that choose to portray them as victims by cheap journalism
Exactly my thoughts.
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Why so much emphasis on ex solider ,amputee. Not sure they want special treatment so why as this this man been singled out or as he ? .let's not start treating hero,s as victims they have the same level of dignity and respect as those that choose to portray them as victims by cheap journalism[/p][/quote]Exactly my thoughts. stevobath

12:15pm Sun 29 Dec 13

Rabbitman64 says...

This Judith Plumley does not sound a very nice person? At least I don't know her!
This Judith Plumley does not sound a very nice person? At least I don't know her! Rabbitman64

1:09pm Sun 29 Dec 13

gameon says...

rusty james wrote:
How sad. The hut looks great. Don't give in to the grey thinking pencil necked by-the-book dullard.
Well commented i got removed for very similar comments about Frau Plumley
[quote][p][bold]rusty james[/bold] wrote: How sad. The hut looks great. Don't give in to the grey thinking pencil necked by-the-book dullard.[/p][/quote]Well commented i got removed for very similar comments about Frau Plumley gameon

7:09pm Sun 29 Dec 13

MngsMnr says...

I see in her job description
"Promote the Councils commitment to valuing diversity"
Well that's a load of **** tosh
I see in her job description "Promote the Councils commitment to valuing diversity" Well that's a load of **** tosh MngsMnr

10:28pm Sun 29 Dec 13

localopinion says...

At Mudeford Sandbank similar rules were introduced decades ago to "control a possible nuisance" Bournemouth Council is even tougher, and Dr Kathryn Ferry, an architectural historian has concluded it is as far as she can find out a matter of taste to have uniformity, camouflage or gay variety. New Forest District Council treads a wary middle line. If they said just a natural wooden appearance that would encourage superior huts. But some fool would try imitating the beauty of just slightly more exotic woods with cheap wood and not so cheap wood stain. Just imagine if Councils' said instead, you can get have unusual domestic or foreign sourced wood, , or larch, or redwood, or something a bit tasty from so and so and we hope you will use it. You see this flexibility of ambition on Grand designs. The Stanpit visitor centre was to use local larch but then the committee baulked at the price! And consumers are no better. At Mudeford the local builder had problems with the poor Council building control official (Mrs Paris) so as everybody was impatient he just submitted the same plans each time once the Council agreed to a boring limiting design and materials. He has put up 30 huts and a meaningful sign just before she retired, saying "We will always have Paris". Today the huts are jaded monuments not to paris, but the metro-politan mentality that undermines the few who have achieved greatness despite this, being told their wood was "hardwood" and would have to come down. I tell no lie.
At Mudeford Sandbank similar rules were introduced decades ago to "control a possible nuisance" Bournemouth Council is even tougher, and Dr Kathryn Ferry, an architectural historian has concluded it is as far as she can find out a matter of taste to have uniformity, camouflage or gay variety. New Forest District Council treads a wary middle line. If they said just a natural wooden appearance that would encourage superior huts. But some fool would try imitating the beauty of just slightly more exotic woods with cheap wood and not so cheap wood stain. Just imagine if Councils' said instead, you can get have unusual domestic or foreign sourced wood, , or larch, or redwood, or something a bit tasty from so and so and we hope you will use it. You see this flexibility of ambition on Grand designs. The Stanpit visitor centre was to use local larch but then the committee baulked at the price! And consumers are no better. At Mudeford the local builder had problems with the poor Council building control official (Mrs Paris) so as everybody was impatient he just submitted the same plans each time once the Council agreed to a boring limiting design and materials. He has put up 30 huts and a meaningful sign just before she retired, saying "We will always have Paris". Today the huts are jaded monuments not to paris, but the metro-politan mentality that undermines the few who have achieved greatness despite this, being told their wood was "hardwood" and would have to come down. I tell no lie. localopinion

11:01pm Sun 29 Dec 13

The Kaptain says...

Gordon Clifton wrote:
High Treason wrote:
Name: Judith Plumley
Employed in this role since: January, 2011
Salary Band: £59,400 - £66,000.

HOW MUCH!!!!!

Which equates to the council tax of 50 council residents.
£59K+????? I have a couple of free days each week - I'll do the job at a fraction of that salary. Can someone post the role description here?
Dear Daily Echo,

Maybe something could be arranged so that Gordon can make good his claim in some way. Let him state what salary he will do the job for, then let him have a go for a few months. You could report how he gets on. It would make for a great piece of journalism,

How about it, Gordon? Are you willing to do the official's job for a couple of months (in your spare time, as you claim) for a salary of your choosing, and have the results reported for all to see? I'm sure everyone will be eager to see how easy the job actually is.
[quote][p][bold]Gordon Clifton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Name: Judith Plumley Employed in this role since: January, 2011 Salary Band: £59,400 - £66,000. HOW MUCH!!!!! Which equates to the council tax of 50 council residents.[/p][/quote]£59K+????? I have a couple of free days each week - I'll do the job at a fraction of that salary. Can someone post the role description here?[/p][/quote]Dear Daily Echo, Maybe something could be arranged so that Gordon can make good his claim in some way. Let him state what salary he will do the job for, then let him have a go for a few months. You could report how he gets on. It would make for a great piece of journalism, How about it, Gordon? Are you willing to do the official's job for a couple of months (in your spare time, as you claim) for a salary of your choosing, and have the results reported for all to see? I'm sure everyone will be eager to see how easy the job actually is. The Kaptain

12:27am Mon 30 Dec 13

power_ranger says...

These feckin idiots need to get a grip on reality.

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12:37am Mon 30 Dec 13

Steve G says...

As a user of another hut in the same row I know that the conditions were imposed with minimal consultation quite recently. There is no limit on the colour, apart from 'luminous or fluorescent colours'. Visitors comment positively about this hut and the bright colours of some of the other huts. Frequently they compare them with the dull colours that used to be allowed!
Interestingly there is no requirement to paint/maintain the huts regularly! What matters more - the colour or regular maintenance!
As a user of another hut in the same row I know that the conditions were imposed with minimal consultation quite recently. There is no limit on the colour, apart from 'luminous or fluorescent colours'. Visitors comment positively about this hut and the bright colours of some of the other huts. Frequently they compare them with the dull colours that used to be allowed! Interestingly there is no requirement to paint/maintain the huts regularly! What matters more - the colour or regular maintenance! Steve G

12:48am Mon 30 Dec 13

power_ranger says...

The Kaptain wrote:
Gordon Clifton wrote:
High Treason wrote:
Name: Judith Plumley
Employed in this role since: January, 2011
Salary Band: £59,400 - £66,000.

HOW MUCH!!!!!

Which equates to the council tax of 50 council residents.
£59K+????? I have a couple of free days each week - I'll do the job at a fraction of that salary. Can someone post the role description here?
Dear Daily Echo,

Maybe something could be arranged so that Gordon can make good his claim in some way. Let him state what salary he will do the job for, then let him have a go for a few months. You could report how he gets on. It would make for a great piece of journalism,

How about it, Gordon? Are you willing to do the official's job for a couple of months (in your spare time, as you claim) for a salary of your choosing, and have the results reported for all to see? I'm sure everyone will be eager to see how easy the job actually is.
I'll do it for that money!
[quote][p][bold]The Kaptain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gordon Clifton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Name: Judith Plumley Employed in this role since: January, 2011 Salary Band: £59,400 - £66,000. HOW MUCH!!!!! Which equates to the council tax of 50 council residents.[/p][/quote]£59K+????? I have a couple of free days each week - I'll do the job at a fraction of that salary. Can someone post the role description here?[/p][/quote]Dear Daily Echo, Maybe something could be arranged so that Gordon can make good his claim in some way. Let him state what salary he will do the job for, then let him have a go for a few months. You could report how he gets on. It would make for a great piece of journalism, How about it, Gordon? Are you willing to do the official's job for a couple of months (in your spare time, as you claim) for a salary of your choosing, and have the results reported for all to see? I'm sure everyone will be eager to see how easy the job actually is.[/p][/quote]I'll do it for that money! power_ranger

4:08am Mon 30 Dec 13

rusty james says...

Different area, I know, but I was strolling with the kids from Fisherman's Walk to Boscombe Imaginary Reef yesterday, thinking about this story whilst looking at the rows of huts. Most were pretty dull to be honest, matt black with blue or red doors, various garden stain greens and browns, none as fetching as that pictured above.
Trouble is, I guess, that if you give the public freedom of the paint charts, how many will exercise decent taste? Traditional seaside stripes are one thing, and rows of huts decorated to this standard would look amazing, but I'd hate to see St George's flags, or purple with orange flowers all along the prom.
Different area, I know, but I was strolling with the kids from Fisherman's Walk to Boscombe Imaginary Reef yesterday, thinking about this story whilst looking at the rows of huts. Most were pretty dull to be honest, matt black with blue or red doors, various garden stain greens and browns, none as fetching as that pictured above. Trouble is, I guess, that if you give the public freedom of the paint charts, how many will exercise decent taste? Traditional seaside stripes are one thing, and rows of huts decorated to this standard would look amazing, but I'd hate to see St George's flags, or purple with orange flowers all along the prom. rusty james

9:39am Mon 30 Dec 13

Dorset Logic says...

rusty james wrote:
Different area, I know, but I was strolling with the kids from Fisherman's Walk to Boscombe Imaginary Reef yesterday, thinking about this story whilst looking at the rows of huts. Most were pretty dull to be honest, matt black with blue or red doors, various garden stain greens and browns, none as fetching as that pictured above.
Trouble is, I guess, that if you give the public freedom of the paint charts, how many will exercise decent taste? Traditional seaside stripes are one thing, and rows of huts decorated to this standard would look amazing, but I'd hate to see St George's flags, or purple with orange flowers all along the prom.
And with a glass half full, how many would do a tasteful bright and cheery job on them?
[quote][p][bold]rusty james[/bold] wrote: Different area, I know, but I was strolling with the kids from Fisherman's Walk to Boscombe Imaginary Reef yesterday, thinking about this story whilst looking at the rows of huts. Most were pretty dull to be honest, matt black with blue or red doors, various garden stain greens and browns, none as fetching as that pictured above. Trouble is, I guess, that if you give the public freedom of the paint charts, how many will exercise decent taste? Traditional seaside stripes are one thing, and rows of huts decorated to this standard would look amazing, but I'd hate to see St George's flags, or purple with orange flowers all along the prom.[/p][/quote]And with a glass half full, how many would do a tasteful bright and cheery job on them? Dorset Logic

10:54am Mon 30 Dec 13

LJT1966 says...

Walked past your beach hut yesterday and thought how lovely it looked. Best wishes in your fight with the council.
Walked past your beach hut yesterday and thought how lovely it looked. Best wishes in your fight with the council. LJT1966

12:36pm Mon 30 Dec 13

power_ranger says...

rusty james wrote:
Different area, I know, but I was strolling with the kids from Fisherman's Walk to Boscombe Imaginary Reef yesterday, thinking about this story whilst looking at the rows of huts. Most were pretty dull to be honest, matt black with blue or red doors, various garden stain greens and browns, none as fetching as that pictured above.
Trouble is, I guess, that if you give the public freedom of the paint charts, how many will exercise decent taste? Traditional seaside stripes are one thing, and rows of huts decorated to this standard would look amazing, but I'd hate to see St George's flags, or purple with orange flowers all along the prom.
I don't think people who pay the kind of money these huts cost would really wreck it with something so vile, but if they did I'm sure some vigilante Dulux cowboy would resolve the situation for the good of Gotham..
[quote][p][bold]rusty james[/bold] wrote: Different area, I know, but I was strolling with the kids from Fisherman's Walk to Boscombe Imaginary Reef yesterday, thinking about this story whilst looking at the rows of huts. Most were pretty dull to be honest, matt black with blue or red doors, various garden stain greens and browns, none as fetching as that pictured above. Trouble is, I guess, that if you give the public freedom of the paint charts, how many will exercise decent taste? Traditional seaside stripes are one thing, and rows of huts decorated to this standard would look amazing, but I'd hate to see St George's flags, or purple with orange flowers all along the prom.[/p][/quote]I don't think people who pay the kind of money these huts cost would really wreck it with something so vile, but if they did I'm sure some vigilante Dulux cowboy would resolve the situation for the good of Gotham.. power_ranger

6:17pm Mon 30 Dec 13

ashleycross says...

Protected by Laches I think! One for the local government ombudsman if ever there was one.
Protected by Laches I think! One for the local government ombudsman if ever there was one. ashleycross

8:51am Tue 31 Dec 13

rudestickers says...

I love it! Beach huts are supposed to be stripy! Don't give in to Ms Plumleys demands. it's in keeping with it's surroundings. I wish Ms Plumley was responsible for certain houses around Bournemouth instead. You come across some seriously hideous paint jobs whilst driving around.
I love it! Beach huts are supposed to be stripy! Don't give in to Ms Plumleys demands. it's in keeping with it's surroundings. I wish Ms Plumley was responsible for certain houses around Bournemouth instead. You come across some seriously hideous paint jobs whilst driving around. rudestickers

12:02pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Bournemouth Ohec says...

I just checked out images of the beach huts at Southwold.

That's pretty much as traditional place as you can get.

The diversity of colours and patterns is lovely and heart warming.

Perhaps Judith Plumley would like to pay a visit, at her own expense of course, and see what a bit of imagination can do to brighten things up.
I just checked out images of the beach huts at Southwold. That's pretty much as traditional place as you can get. The diversity of colours and patterns is lovely and heart warming. Perhaps Judith Plumley would like to pay a visit, at her own expense of course, and see what a bit of imagination can do to brighten things up. Bournemouth Ohec

7:04pm Tue 31 Dec 13

username is already in use says...

Can we start a petition to sack Judith Plumley?
Can we start a petition to sack Judith Plumley? username is already in use

9:33pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Gonetothebeach says...

Wouldn't it be great to have a competition open to the likes of Banksy, Grayson Perry, Sir Anthony Gormley, Tracy Emin and others to provide striking designs for beach huts? Now THAT would challenge all of us to really think about what enhances our beaches. I dare the local Councils and The Echo to go for this! Think of the (international) publicity!
Wouldn't it be great to have a competition open to the likes of Banksy, Grayson Perry, Sir Anthony Gormley, Tracy Emin and others to provide striking designs for beach huts? Now THAT would challenge all of us to really think about what enhances our beaches. I dare the local Councils and The Echo to go for this! Think of the (international) publicity! Gonetothebeach

9:32am Wed 1 Jan 14

Phixer says...

power_ranger wrote:
rusty james wrote:
Different area, I know, but I was strolling with the kids from Fisherman's Walk to Boscombe Imaginary Reef yesterday, thinking about this story whilst looking at the rows of huts. Most were pretty dull to be honest, matt black with blue or red doors, various garden stain greens and browns, none as fetching as that pictured above.
Trouble is, I guess, that if you give the public freedom of the paint charts, how many will exercise decent taste? Traditional seaside stripes are one thing, and rows of huts decorated to this standard would look amazing, but I'd hate to see St George's flags, or purple with orange flowers all along the prom.
I don't think people who pay the kind of money these huts cost would really wreck it with something so vile, but if they did I'm sure some vigilante Dulux cowboy would resolve the situation for the good of Gotham..
Having money is not a guarantee of style or good taste. Just take a look at some of the Z-list celebrities.
[quote][p][bold]power_ranger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rusty james[/bold] wrote: Different area, I know, but I was strolling with the kids from Fisherman's Walk to Boscombe Imaginary Reef yesterday, thinking about this story whilst looking at the rows of huts. Most were pretty dull to be honest, matt black with blue or red doors, various garden stain greens and browns, none as fetching as that pictured above. Trouble is, I guess, that if you give the public freedom of the paint charts, how many will exercise decent taste? Traditional seaside stripes are one thing, and rows of huts decorated to this standard would look amazing, but I'd hate to see St George's flags, or purple with orange flowers all along the prom.[/p][/quote]I don't think people who pay the kind of money these huts cost would really wreck it with something so vile, but if they did I'm sure some vigilante Dulux cowboy would resolve the situation for the good of Gotham..[/p][/quote]Having money is not a guarantee of style or good taste. Just take a look at some of the Z-list celebrities. Phixer

8:00pm Wed 1 Jan 14

madras says...

Dear Council - as a council tax payer, could I respectfully request that you find something more serious to concern yourselves with. This looks just fine, relatively muted colours. Now please scuttle off...
Dear Council - as a council tax payer, could I respectfully request that you find something more serious to concern yourselves with. This looks just fine, relatively muted colours. Now please scuttle off... madras

9:26am Thu 2 Jan 14

Highcliffe hut owner says...

I've never written in to the Echo before, but feel I had to this time concerning disgraceful personal attacks on a hard working individual just doing her job for the Council. Why the Echo has allowed such personal attacks to be published on their website alongside those expressing an opinion about Council policy is beyond me. This article has been written in a very emotive journalistic style that has almost encouraged people to respond in such a personal way, and as such the Echo should take responsibility for this and issue an apology. Likewise, I think the Council should demand one from the Echo in support of their employee - one who has worked for them for more than 30 years in an exemplary fashion.

I am a beach hut owner too and have received a similar letter from the Council asking me to replace the numbers on my hut that were ripped off by vandals last year. I haven't got a problem with this as it is clearly stated in my licence that I must display a number on my hut. I'm not sure why John Sandford-Hart cannot just quietly conform with his licence and re-paint his hut as requested. It is not the Council's staff that has demanded he re-paint it - it is the licence that he signed up to when he took on his hut, that says so.
This whole issue should never have become news - it's not important in the whole world scheme of things - just a local who clearly doesn't want to comply with his hut licence and has used the Echo to have a very public and unjust 'pop at the Council'. I don't have a problem with many of the comments posted by people who have used this opportunity to have a go at the Council - most people do, and while it is predictable it is everyone's right to be able to express their opinion. What I do object to is the personal comments made by people that are not relevant to the issue and are downright upsetting and untrue. What she wears or how much she earns is completely irrelevant and no one else's business. Shame on you all that wrote them and shame on the Echo for publishing them and allowing itself to be used in this very unprofessional manner.
I've never written in to the Echo before, but feel I had to this time concerning disgraceful personal attacks on a hard working individual just doing her job for the Council. Why the Echo has allowed such personal attacks to be published on their website alongside those expressing an opinion about Council policy is beyond me. This article has been written in a very emotive journalistic style that has almost encouraged people to respond in such a personal way, and as such the Echo should take responsibility for this and issue an apology. Likewise, I think the Council should demand one from the Echo in support of their employee - one who has worked for them for more than 30 years in an exemplary fashion. I am a beach hut owner too and have received a similar letter from the Council asking me to replace the numbers on my hut that were ripped off by vandals last year. I haven't got a problem with this as it is clearly stated in my licence that I must display a number on my hut. I'm not sure why John Sandford-Hart cannot just quietly conform with his licence and re-paint his hut as requested. It is not the Council's staff that has demanded he re-paint it - it is the licence that he signed up to when he took on his hut, that says so. This whole issue should never have become news - it's not important in the whole world scheme of things - just a local who clearly doesn't want to comply with his hut licence and has used the Echo to have a very public and unjust 'pop at the Council'. I don't have a problem with many of the comments posted by people who have used this opportunity to have a go at the Council - most people do, and while it is predictable it is everyone's right to be able to express their opinion. What I do object to is the personal comments made by people that are not relevant to the issue and are downright upsetting and untrue. What she wears or how much she earns is completely irrelevant and no one else's business. Shame on you all that wrote them and shame on the Echo for publishing them and allowing itself to be used in this very unprofessional manner. Highcliffe hut owner

1:30pm Thu 2 Jan 14

pete woodley says...

Highcliffe hut owner wrote:
I've never written in to the Echo before, but feel I had to this time concerning disgraceful personal attacks on a hard working individual just doing her job for the Council. Why the Echo has allowed such personal attacks to be published on their website alongside those expressing an opinion about Council policy is beyond me. This article has been written in a very emotive journalistic style that has almost encouraged people to respond in such a personal way, and as such the Echo should take responsibility for this and issue an apology. Likewise, I think the Council should demand one from the Echo in support of their employee - one who has worked for them for more than 30 years in an exemplary fashion.

I am a beach hut owner too and have received a similar letter from the Council asking me to replace the numbers on my hut that were ripped off by vandals last year. I haven't got a problem with this as it is clearly stated in my licence that I must display a number on my hut. I'm not sure why John Sandford-Hart cannot just quietly conform with his licence and re-paint his hut as requested. It is not the Council's staff that has demanded he re-paint it - it is the licence that he signed up to when he took on his hut, that says so.
This whole issue should never have become news - it's not important in the whole world scheme of things - just a local who clearly doesn't want to comply with his hut licence and has used the Echo to have a very public and unjust 'pop at the Council'. I don't have a problem with many of the comments posted by people who have used this opportunity to have a go at the Council - most people do, and while it is predictable it is everyone's right to be able to express their opinion. What I do object to is the personal comments made by people that are not relevant to the issue and are downright upsetting and untrue. What she wears or how much she earns is completely irrelevant and no one else's business. Shame on you all that wrote them and shame on the Echo for publishing them and allowing itself to be used in this very unprofessional manner.
The truth hurts,and obviously Highcliffe hut owner, seems to have a personal grudge,against a fellow hut owner.If council staff want to stick their neck out,then they should expect some flak back.Highcliffe has always been a bit snobbish,the above comments reek of it.
[quote][p][bold]Highcliffe hut owner[/bold] wrote: I've never written in to the Echo before, but feel I had to this time concerning disgraceful personal attacks on a hard working individual just doing her job for the Council. Why the Echo has allowed such personal attacks to be published on their website alongside those expressing an opinion about Council policy is beyond me. This article has been written in a very emotive journalistic style that has almost encouraged people to respond in such a personal way, and as such the Echo should take responsibility for this and issue an apology. Likewise, I think the Council should demand one from the Echo in support of their employee - one who has worked for them for more than 30 years in an exemplary fashion. I am a beach hut owner too and have received a similar letter from the Council asking me to replace the numbers on my hut that were ripped off by vandals last year. I haven't got a problem with this as it is clearly stated in my licence that I must display a number on my hut. I'm not sure why John Sandford-Hart cannot just quietly conform with his licence and re-paint his hut as requested. It is not the Council's staff that has demanded he re-paint it - it is the licence that he signed up to when he took on his hut, that says so. This whole issue should never have become news - it's not important in the whole world scheme of things - just a local who clearly doesn't want to comply with his hut licence and has used the Echo to have a very public and unjust 'pop at the Council'. I don't have a problem with many of the comments posted by people who have used this opportunity to have a go at the Council - most people do, and while it is predictable it is everyone's right to be able to express their opinion. What I do object to is the personal comments made by people that are not relevant to the issue and are downright upsetting and untrue. What she wears or how much she earns is completely irrelevant and no one else's business. Shame on you all that wrote them and shame on the Echo for publishing them and allowing itself to be used in this very unprofessional manner.[/p][/quote]The truth hurts,and obviously Highcliffe hut owner, seems to have a personal grudge,against a fellow hut owner.If council staff want to stick their neck out,then they should expect some flak back.Highcliffe has always been a bit snobbish,the above comments reek of it. pete woodley

4:29pm Thu 2 Jan 14

pete woodley says...

Stumpy,did we meet at Morden ?.
Stumpy,did we meet at Morden ?. pete woodley

6:15pm Thu 2 Jan 14

SympatheticSam says...

Rules are Rules. Is he allowed to jump red lights as well because he is ex army?
Rules are Rules. Is he allowed to jump red lights as well because he is ex army? SympatheticSam

11:06pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Just_Sayin' says...

Felicity....? Oh, I mean, yeah, keep the stripes. They suit her.
Felicity....? Oh, I mean, yeah, keep the stripes. They suit her. Just_Sayin'

11:20pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Gordon Clifton says...

The Kaptain wrote:
Gordon Clifton wrote:
High Treason wrote:
Name: Judith Plumley
Employed in this role since: January, 2011
Salary Band: £59,400 - £66,000.

HOW MUCH!!!!!

Which equates to the council tax of 50 council residents.
£59K+????? I have a couple of free days each week - I'll do the job at a fraction of that salary. Can someone post the role description here?
Dear Daily Echo,

Maybe something could be arranged so that Gordon can make good his claim in some way. Let him state what salary he will do the job for, then let him have a go for a few months. You could report how he gets on. It would make for a great piece of journalism,

How about it, Gordon? Are you willing to do the official's job for a couple of months (in your spare time, as you claim) for a salary of your choosing, and have the results reported for all to see? I'm sure everyone will be eager to see how easy the job actually is.
I'm up for it - but are they? The reality is that for anyone who has had to run / reform private sector for-profit operations the prospect of a public sector cost centre manager's job holds no worries. The 'difficult' bits will be dealing with peers and senior managers who are die-hard public sector types and, of course, the internal politics.

It remains a scandal that this cost-centre manager is paid more than a lot of good design engineers who are instrumental in the creation of wealth without which the public sector and their odd-sounding job titles cannot be afforded. She's also paid a great deal more than midwives, nurses and the like. It's time to reassess what we really value.
[quote][p][bold]The Kaptain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gordon Clifton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Name: Judith Plumley Employed in this role since: January, 2011 Salary Band: £59,400 - £66,000. HOW MUCH!!!!! Which equates to the council tax of 50 council residents.[/p][/quote]£59K+????? I have a couple of free days each week - I'll do the job at a fraction of that salary. Can someone post the role description here?[/p][/quote]Dear Daily Echo, Maybe something could be arranged so that Gordon can make good his claim in some way. Let him state what salary he will do the job for, then let him have a go for a few months. You could report how he gets on. It would make for a great piece of journalism, How about it, Gordon? Are you willing to do the official's job for a couple of months (in your spare time, as you claim) for a salary of your choosing, and have the results reported for all to see? I'm sure everyone will be eager to see how easy the job actually is.[/p][/quote]I'm up for it - but are they? The reality is that for anyone who has had to run / reform private sector for-profit operations the prospect of a public sector cost centre manager's job holds no worries. The 'difficult' bits will be dealing with peers and senior managers who are die-hard public sector types and, of course, the internal politics. It remains a scandal that this cost-centre manager is paid more than a lot of good design engineers who are instrumental in the creation of wealth without which the public sector and their odd-sounding job titles cannot be afforded. She's also paid a great deal more than midwives, nurses and the like. It's time to reassess what we really value. Gordon Clifton

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