Traders fear loss of business when major roadworks start in Ashley Road and Poole Road

Bournemouth Echo: UP IN ARMS: Ashley Road Traders, who are concerned roadworks will lead to a drop in takings. UP IN ARMS: Ashley Road Traders, who are concerned roadworks will lead to a drop in takings.

TRADERS fear they could lose business when major works start along two of Poole’s busiest thoroughfares in the New Year.

Road users have also been warned to expect disruptions when the project starts.

Parts of Ashley Road and Poole Road are set to be redeveloped as part of the £12.1 million Three Towns Travel scheme, a national Government-funded project deliver improved travel links across Bournemouth, Poole and Christchurch.

Engineers start in Ashley Road, on January 2, where the first phase of the localised £1m works will be centred around the Mansfield Road junction.

Claire Tisley, owner of Tom Dick and Harry’s hairdressers, opposite the junction, described the planned works as “absolutely horrendous”.

Meanwhile, Teresa Davies, landlady at The Victoria Cross pub – which is on the corner of Ashley Road and Mansfield Road – said: “A lot of my locals walk here, but those who drive may be put off by the roadworks and avoid us. January is quite a problem month anyway.”

Cemal Altun, owner of Ashley Road’s Best-One convenience store, told the Daily Echo: “I believe that this is going to be a big problem. Ashley Road is a very busy road and most of our customers drive here and stop outside.

“With the roadworks it means they may not be able to.”

On the same day work is also due to start in Poole Road, where £450,000 improvements have been identified following public consultation, says Borough of Poole.

Poole council cabinet member Cllr Xena Dion warned: “Unfortunately, there will be some disruption to road users but we have scheduled the work in such a way as to minimise the impact to the community.

“We would like to thank drivers in advance for their patience and understanding while these improvements are carried out.”

The main Poole Road works and the first phase at Ashley Road are both scheduled for completion in the spring.

Further works at key locations will be undertaken later in 2014, officials have confirmed.

Poole Road’s works include revamping the area in front of the shops opposite John Lewis; altering the parking slightly; adding an additional bus lane that can be used by cyclists; a new bus stop near Eagle Road; a toucan crossing on Lindsay Road and a shared cycleway linking Lindsay Road to Poole Road along St Aldhelm’s Road.

What works will deliver

THE Ashley Road project includes the installation of new cycling facilities; the renewal of kerb lines together with carriageway and footway resurfacing; traffic signal replacement and the removal of the existing banned left turn for vehicles from Mansfield Road into Ashley Road.

Cllr Xena Dion said: “We have carried out extensive consultation with the local community to identify a range of improvement schemes along the main Poole to Bournemouth corridor as part of the Three Towns Travel project.

“I am delighted that these two important schemes are now starting to be delivered and will be of benefit to everyone, whether you wal

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12:20pm Fri 27 Dec 13

losthope says...

Council showing how out of touch they are. Businesses are saying they're worried about loss of trade, so Councillor Dion thanks motorists for their patience...
Council showing how out of touch they are. Businesses are saying they're worried about loss of trade, so Councillor Dion thanks motorists for their patience... losthope

12:50pm Fri 27 Dec 13

rayc says...

I don't know how the traders were led to believe the Three Town Travel Project is anything to do with their businesses or their profits. It's mainly about getting bus passengers between the three towns without them stopping to shop on the way. Were business owners not part of the "extensive consultation with the local community"?
I don't know how the traders were led to believe the Three Town Travel Project is anything to do with their businesses or their profits. It's mainly about getting bus passengers between the three towns without them stopping to shop on the way. Were business owners not part of the "extensive consultation with the local community"? rayc

1:20pm Fri 27 Dec 13

muscliffman says...

Rather predictably local Councils are interpreting the 'Three Town Travel Project' as just another means to simply further their old ill considered and outdated anti-motorist policies, as we have already seen on Richmond Hill roundabout - old habits die hard.

Regrettably this scheme will permanently disadvantage Ashley Road traders whose customers mainly are motorists, in future these will be staying away or driving straight by in ever increasing numbers.
Rather predictably local Councils are interpreting the 'Three Town Travel Project' as just another means to simply further their old ill considered and outdated anti-motorist policies, as we have already seen on Richmond Hill roundabout - old habits die hard. Regrettably this scheme will permanently disadvantage Ashley Road traders whose customers mainly are motorists, in future these will be staying away or driving straight by in ever increasing numbers. muscliffman

1:29pm Fri 27 Dec 13

steelpaul says...

It needs doing, why put it off, at least its getting done out of season
It needs doing, why put it off, at least its getting done out of season steelpaul

1:54pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Wackerone says...

It is about time that everybody realised that once all this money has been spent and all works complete, nothing will be achieved! Buses and cars will still be stuck in the same old jams and traffic gridlock, leaving a few cyclists cocking a finger as they ride by! None of the recommendations and suggestions flagged up by Joe Public have been instigated at all.
It is about time that everybody realised that once all this money has been spent and all works complete, nothing will be achieved! Buses and cars will still be stuck in the same old jams and traffic gridlock, leaving a few cyclists cocking a finger as they ride by! None of the recommendations and suggestions flagged up by Joe Public have been instigated at all. Wackerone

3:18pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Jeff in Parkstone says...

In accord with all feedback published on BoP website improvements are to include environmental and amenity improvements - that is wider pavements in some locations, less congested traffic, better and coordinated crossings, limited bus numbers (there are clearly far too many bunching into groups as many as seven counted at one time - five not unusual) and the planting of TREES along Ashley Road - which we have been appealing for seven years. Tree to improve appearance - trees to absorb at least some of the air pollution (carbons, nitrates, sulphur - all that blackens buildings and homes) ...

Indeed £1 million much heralded is very poor for a high street the size of Ashley Road - I hope one and all, including particularly businesses, will note that £1.5 million has just been spent on refurbishing Poole Park cafe - £1.5 million on ONE cafe and we get £1 million for a whole high street - and add to that council organising funding of another £2.5 million for Poole Park ...

What we are getting is "about time to" - should have been delivered ten years ago - and much more is needed not least making Richmond Road a servicable road as in its so rough strewn with so many potholes its near unusable for bikes and small vehicles ....

And the disruption - understandable of course that businesses will be concerned that the works will disrupt business but then as some vendors say many customers do walk to local outlets.. Otherwise I very much hope one and all will keep their eyes on the outcomes we expect which is a much improved high streets : better pavements, better crossings, synchronised lights, trees at key locations, and we need installed stands for summer florals. If these are not put in this year they will never go in .... all this helping lift our high street and surely improving foot-fall and business .... Ashley Road an attractive high street drawing in businesses and shoppers ....

In all I am sure we all hope the impovements when finished will have made the cost of all the incovenience worth-while .... and on that note I personally wish council well in delivering these long needed improvements ....

Jeff Williams
Upper Parkstone
In accord with all feedback published on BoP website improvements are to include environmental and amenity improvements - that is wider pavements in some locations, less congested traffic, better and coordinated crossings, limited bus numbers (there are clearly far too many bunching into groups as many as seven counted at one time - five not unusual) and the planting of TREES along Ashley Road - which we have been appealing for seven years. Tree to improve appearance - trees to absorb at least some of the air pollution (carbons, nitrates, sulphur - all that blackens buildings and homes) ... Indeed £1 million much heralded is very poor for a high street the size of Ashley Road - I hope one and all, including particularly businesses, will note that £1.5 million has just been spent on refurbishing Poole Park cafe - £1.5 million on ONE cafe and we get £1 million for a whole high street - and add to that council organising funding of another £2.5 million for Poole Park ... What we are getting is "about time to" - should have been delivered ten years ago - and much more is needed not least making Richmond Road a servicable road as in its so rough strewn with so many potholes its near unusable for bikes and small vehicles .... And the disruption - understandable of course that businesses will be concerned that the works will disrupt business but then as some vendors say many customers do walk to local outlets.. Otherwise I very much hope one and all will keep their eyes on the outcomes we expect which is a much improved high streets : better pavements, better crossings, synchronised lights, trees at key locations, and we need installed stands for summer florals. If these are not put in this year they will never go in .... all this helping lift our high street and surely improving foot-fall and business .... Ashley Road an attractive high street drawing in businesses and shoppers .... In all I am sure we all hope the impovements when finished will have made the cost of all the incovenience worth-while .... and on that note I personally wish council well in delivering these long needed improvements .... Jeff Williams Upper Parkstone Jeff in Parkstone

5:35pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Wackerone says...

Jeff in Parkstone wrote:
In accord with all feedback published on BoP website improvements are to include environmental and amenity improvements - that is wider pavements in some locations, less congested traffic, better and coordinated crossings, limited bus numbers (there are clearly far too many bunching into groups as many as seven counted at one time - five not unusual) and the planting of TREES along Ashley Road - which we have been appealing for seven years. Tree to improve appearance - trees to absorb at least some of the air pollution (carbons, nitrates, sulphur - all that blackens buildings and homes) ...

Indeed £1 million much heralded is very poor for a high street the size of Ashley Road - I hope one and all, including particularly businesses, will note that £1.5 million has just been spent on refurbishing Poole Park cafe - £1.5 million on ONE cafe and we get £1 million for a whole high street - and add to that council organising funding of another £2.5 million for Poole Park ...

What we are getting is "about time to" - should have been delivered ten years ago - and much more is needed not least making Richmond Road a servicable road as in its so rough strewn with so many potholes its near unusable for bikes and small vehicles ....

And the disruption - understandable of course that businesses will be concerned that the works will disrupt business but then as some vendors say many customers do walk to local outlets.. Otherwise I very much hope one and all will keep their eyes on the outcomes we expect which is a much improved high streets : better pavements, better crossings, synchronised lights, trees at key locations, and we need installed stands for summer florals. If these are not put in this year they will never go in .... all this helping lift our high street and surely improving foot-fall and business .... Ashley Road an attractive high street drawing in businesses and shoppers ....

In all I am sure we all hope the impovements when finished will have made the cost of all the incovenience worth-while .... and on that note I personally wish council well in delivering these long needed improvements ....

Jeff Williams
Upper Parkstone
......and how will there be less congested traffic? It will still be backing up from Redlands along Ashley Road and down along Poole Road. One of the biggest problems are the amount of pedestrian crossings, now even more are planned! Those funny men in their long white coats will soon be coming for you Jeff!, you're living on a totally different planet to the rest of us and we all know that your utopia would be penny farthings and no cars at all!
[quote][p][bold]Jeff in Parkstone[/bold] wrote: In accord with all feedback published on BoP website improvements are to include environmental and amenity improvements - that is wider pavements in some locations, less congested traffic, better and coordinated crossings, limited bus numbers (there are clearly far too many bunching into groups as many as seven counted at one time - five not unusual) and the planting of TREES along Ashley Road - which we have been appealing for seven years. Tree to improve appearance - trees to absorb at least some of the air pollution (carbons, nitrates, sulphur - all that blackens buildings and homes) ... Indeed £1 million much heralded is very poor for a high street the size of Ashley Road - I hope one and all, including particularly businesses, will note that £1.5 million has just been spent on refurbishing Poole Park cafe - £1.5 million on ONE cafe and we get £1 million for a whole high street - and add to that council organising funding of another £2.5 million for Poole Park ... What we are getting is "about time to" - should have been delivered ten years ago - and much more is needed not least making Richmond Road a servicable road as in its so rough strewn with so many potholes its near unusable for bikes and small vehicles .... And the disruption - understandable of course that businesses will be concerned that the works will disrupt business but then as some vendors say many customers do walk to local outlets.. Otherwise I very much hope one and all will keep their eyes on the outcomes we expect which is a much improved high streets : better pavements, better crossings, synchronised lights, trees at key locations, and we need installed stands for summer florals. If these are not put in this year they will never go in .... all this helping lift our high street and surely improving foot-fall and business .... Ashley Road an attractive high street drawing in businesses and shoppers .... In all I am sure we all hope the impovements when finished will have made the cost of all the incovenience worth-while .... and on that note I personally wish council well in delivering these long needed improvements .... Jeff Williams Upper Parkstone[/p][/quote]......and how will there be less congested traffic? It will still be backing up from Redlands along Ashley Road and down along Poole Road. One of the biggest problems are the amount of pedestrian crossings, now even more are planned! Those funny men in their long white coats will soon be coming for you Jeff!, you're living on a totally different planet to the rest of us and we all know that your utopia would be penny farthings and no cars at all! Wackerone

7:06pm Fri 27 Dec 13

fairandsquared says...

It seems the council cant win! they spent ages doing consultation (how many of you here made your views known) and now people are still complaining. I for one will be glad of the improvements, having to do that journey every day. Ashley Road is full of people shopping, normally on foot - look at the amount of houses we have all around there. I certainly don't have to drive to shop there, same as hundreds of others. Surely this is a quiet time of year for shopping anyway as we try and recover our finances after Christmas. Its just another good Echo opportunity to make people moan about something or other.
It seems the council cant win! they spent ages doing consultation (how many of you here made your views known) and now people are still complaining. I for one will be glad of the improvements, having to do that journey every day. Ashley Road is full of people shopping, normally on foot - look at the amount of houses we have all around there. I certainly don't have to drive to shop there, same as hundreds of others. Surely this is a quiet time of year for shopping anyway as we try and recover our finances after Christmas. Its just another good Echo opportunity to make people moan about something or other. fairandsquared

9:36pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Wackerone says...

fairandsquared wrote:
It seems the council cant win! they spent ages doing consultation (how many of you here made your views known) and now people are still complaining. I for one will be glad of the improvements, having to do that journey every day. Ashley Road is full of people shopping, normally on foot - look at the amount of houses we have all around there. I certainly don't have to drive to shop there, same as hundreds of others. Surely this is a quiet time of year for shopping anyway as we try and recover our finances after Christmas. Its just another good Echo opportunity to make people moan about something or other.
As I have mentioned before, hundreds of people including myself responded to the consultation and made their views clear, none of which have been taken on board. Also, this has nothing to do with shopping, Ashley Road and Poole Road are one of the main through routes from East to West and vice versa and will always be so and as such, nothing is being done that will alleviate the congestion problems as you will soon find out early next year when the problems will be the same, if not worse, after the works are complete! Mark my words.
[quote][p][bold]fairandsquared[/bold] wrote: It seems the council cant win! they spent ages doing consultation (how many of you here made your views known) and now people are still complaining. I for one will be glad of the improvements, having to do that journey every day. Ashley Road is full of people shopping, normally on foot - look at the amount of houses we have all around there. I certainly don't have to drive to shop there, same as hundreds of others. Surely this is a quiet time of year for shopping anyway as we try and recover our finances after Christmas. Its just another good Echo opportunity to make people moan about something or other.[/p][/quote]As I have mentioned before, hundreds of people including myself responded to the consultation and made their views clear, none of which have been taken on board. Also, this has nothing to do with shopping, Ashley Road and Poole Road are one of the main through routes from East to West and vice versa and will always be so and as such, nothing is being done that will alleviate the congestion problems as you will soon find out early next year when the problems will be the same, if not worse, after the works are complete! Mark my words. Wackerone

1:01pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Jeff in Parkstone says...

Wackerone - can you not advance your arguments and views wihout resorting to attemps at personal insult - and this from behind a pseudonym ?

Arguing for less pollution and a healthier and more attractive high street is hardly utopian - more a case of achieving what everyone wants - a busy and successful high street we can be proud of ...

Is it too much to ask Wackerone you go and have a look at Westbourne - dozens of floral displays through the summer - christmas lights all down the high street. Is that Utopian ? - or a high street makign the best of itself, and benefitting ...

Jeff Williams
Wackerone - can you not advance your arguments and views wihout resorting to attemps at personal insult - and this from behind a pseudonym ? Arguing for less pollution and a healthier and more attractive high street is hardly utopian - more a case of achieving what everyone wants - a busy and successful high street we can be proud of ... Is it too much to ask Wackerone you go and have a look at Westbourne - dozens of floral displays through the summer - christmas lights all down the high street. Is that Utopian ? - or a high street makign the best of itself, and benefitting ... Jeff Williams Jeff in Parkstone

1:16pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Jeff in Parkstone says...

Well said fairandsquared - I have given my share of criticism of Poole Council over many years but on this one council certainly did do a huge consultation - and this all part of what they are calling the Localism agenda ... we all have every right to input, and to be kept informed ...

The survey results are at this url Ashley Road Survey Engagement Results - http://www.boroughof
poole.com/transport-
and-streets/transpor
t-policy/poole-three
-towns-travel/pooles
-three-towns-travel-
projects/three-towns
-travel-project-ashl
ey-road/what-people-
said/

However, being Poole Councol with truly 3rd rate IT management of their third rate web-site they still havn't worked out out how to post pdf documents as urls, rather than download pdfs ....

So we can't win them all but well said fairnsquare - all that wanted to had input into Ashley Improvements and council has collated and should now deliver .... like you I am looking forward to the improvements. I hope we will see some nice trees - and floral stands for displays, as well as the new pavements, crossings & bus stops ....

Jeff
Well said fairandsquared - I have given my share of criticism of Poole Council over many years but on this one council certainly did do a huge consultation - and this all part of what they are calling the Localism agenda ... we all have every right to input, and to be kept informed ... The survey results are at this url Ashley Road Survey Engagement Results - http://www.boroughof poole.com/transport- and-streets/transpor t-policy/poole-three -towns-travel/pooles -three-towns-travel- projects/three-towns -travel-project-ashl ey-road/what-people- said/ However, being Poole Councol with truly 3rd rate IT management of their third rate web-site they still havn't worked out out how to post pdf documents as urls, rather than download pdfs .... So we can't win them all but well said fairnsquare - all that wanted to had input into Ashley Improvements and council has collated and should now deliver .... like you I am looking forward to the improvements. I hope we will see some nice trees - and floral stands for displays, as well as the new pavements, crossings & bus stops .... Jeff Jeff in Parkstone

1:29pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Jeff in Parkstone says...

Wackerone - yes there are serious congestion problems and not all of them will be resolved - congestion in rush hour will continue at Redlands as you say ... with 300 yard tailback ....

Sorting one jammed area as ever moving the problem to the next bottle-neck ...

So next step how about one-way circular sytem around Ashley Road, Richmond Road, and B'mouth Road ?

It may come to the point where council has do this - no option, as in volume of traffic mounting higher every year. I hardly know a house in Upper Parkstone north side that has a front garden left - they've near all gone for parking ...

And council policy - from DoT - we all walk more, use bikes, use buses - makes sense to me ....
Wackerone - yes there are serious congestion problems and not all of them will be resolved - congestion in rush hour will continue at Redlands as you say ... with 300 yard tailback .... Sorting one jammed area as ever moving the problem to the next bottle-neck ... So next step how about one-way circular sytem around Ashley Road, Richmond Road, and B'mouth Road ? It may come to the point where council has do this - no option, as in volume of traffic mounting higher every year. I hardly know a house in Upper Parkstone north side that has a front garden left - they've near all gone for parking ... And council policy - from DoT - we all walk more, use bikes, use buses - makes sense to me .... Jeff in Parkstone

1:47pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Wackerone says...

Jeff in Parkstone wrote:
Wackerone - can you not advance your arguments and views wihout resorting to attemps at personal insult - and this from behind a pseudonym ?

Arguing for less pollution and a healthier and more attractive high street is hardly utopian - more a case of achieving what everyone wants - a busy and successful high street we can be proud of ...

Is it too much to ask Wackerone you go and have a look at Westbourne - dozens of floral displays through the summer - christmas lights all down the high street. Is that Utopian ? - or a high street makign the best of itself, and benefitting ...

Jeff Williams
Nothing that I have said has been intended as a personal insult, if it has been taken as such, I unreservedly apologise.
As you have mentioned Westbourne, yes, I walk through several times a week with all the pollution from cars and buses at a standstill for the whole of the working day all caused by people trying to park on the street, traffic lights and a zebra crossing permantly in use. Most of the time it is gridlocked!! I fail to see how Christmas lights and floral displays will improve the through put of congested traffic in Parkstone, it certainly dosn't in Westbourne. Once again, my sole argument on this subject is that nothing is being done for anybody except a few cyclists. The congestion will remain for the motorist and so will the pollution for the shoppers and pedestrians or may be you could explain to me and others, how the traffic will speed up and continually move from Sea View through Redlands and on to Bournemouth. I wait with baited breath.
[quote][p][bold]Jeff in Parkstone[/bold] wrote: Wackerone - can you not advance your arguments and views wihout resorting to attemps at personal insult - and this from behind a pseudonym ? Arguing for less pollution and a healthier and more attractive high street is hardly utopian - more a case of achieving what everyone wants - a busy and successful high street we can be proud of ... Is it too much to ask Wackerone you go and have a look at Westbourne - dozens of floral displays through the summer - christmas lights all down the high street. Is that Utopian ? - or a high street makign the best of itself, and benefitting ... Jeff Williams[/p][/quote]Nothing that I have said has been intended as a personal insult, if it has been taken as such, I unreservedly apologise. As you have mentioned Westbourne, yes, I walk through several times a week with all the pollution from cars and buses at a standstill for the whole of the working day all caused by people trying to park on the street, traffic lights and a zebra crossing permantly in use. Most of the time it is gridlocked!! I fail to see how Christmas lights and floral displays will improve the through put of congested traffic in Parkstone, it certainly dosn't in Westbourne. Once again, my sole argument on this subject is that nothing is being done for anybody except a few cyclists. The congestion will remain for the motorist and so will the pollution for the shoppers and pedestrians or may be you could explain to me and others, how the traffic will speed up and continually move from Sea View through Redlands and on to Bournemouth. I wait with baited breath. Wackerone

1:59pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Wackerone says...

Jeff in Parkstone wrote:
Wackerone - yes there are serious congestion problems and not all of them will be resolved - congestion in rush hour will continue at Redlands as you say ... with 300 yard tailback ....

Sorting one jammed area as ever moving the problem to the next bottle-neck ...

So next step how about one-way circular sytem around Ashley Road, Richmond Road, and B'mouth Road ?

It may come to the point where council has do this - no option, as in volume of traffic mounting higher every year. I hardly know a house in Upper Parkstone north side that has a front garden left - they've near all gone for parking ...

And council policy - from DoT - we all walk more, use bikes, use buses - makes sense to me ....
Exactly Jeff, you have hit the nail on the head here. This was just one idea that has been mooted along with others at places such as Bourne Valley, but the council has taken no notice of these observations and ideas, just going their own silly way wasting money with minor changes to bus stops, more crossings and cycle lanes and doing nothing to improve the traffic situation. Any fool can see that the bus lane through to Westbourne is on the wrong side of the road with traffic flowing freely while buses sit for hours on end on the opposite side trying to get to Branksome, but no, we'll add a cycle lane somewhere, another crossing point, alter a bus stop here and there, nothing at all to get traffic moving. I rest my case.
[quote][p][bold]Jeff in Parkstone[/bold] wrote: Wackerone - yes there are serious congestion problems and not all of them will be resolved - congestion in rush hour will continue at Redlands as you say ... with 300 yard tailback .... Sorting one jammed area as ever moving the problem to the next bottle-neck ... So next step how about one-way circular sytem around Ashley Road, Richmond Road, and B'mouth Road ? It may come to the point where council has do this - no option, as in volume of traffic mounting higher every year. I hardly know a house in Upper Parkstone north side that has a front garden left - they've near all gone for parking ... And council policy - from DoT - we all walk more, use bikes, use buses - makes sense to me ....[/p][/quote]Exactly Jeff, you have hit the nail on the head here. This was just one idea that has been mooted along with others at places such as Bourne Valley, but the council has taken no notice of these observations and ideas, just going their own silly way wasting money with minor changes to bus stops, more crossings and cycle lanes and doing nothing to improve the traffic situation. Any fool can see that the bus lane through to Westbourne is on the wrong side of the road with traffic flowing freely while buses sit for hours on end on the opposite side trying to get to Branksome, but no, we'll add a cycle lane somewhere, another crossing point, alter a bus stop here and there, nothing at all to get traffic moving. I rest my case. Wackerone

1:47am Mon 30 Dec 13

matthew bell says...

Wackerone wrote:
Jeff in Parkstone wrote:
Wackerone - can you not advance your arguments and views wihout resorting to attemps at personal insult - and this from behind a pseudonym ?

Arguing for less pollution and a healthier and more attractive high street is hardly utopian - more a case of achieving what everyone wants - a busy and successful high street we can be proud of ...

Is it too much to ask Wackerone you go and have a look at Westbourne - dozens of floral displays through the summer - christmas lights all down the high street. Is that Utopian ? - or a high street makign the best of itself, and benefitting ...

Jeff Williams
Nothing that I have said has been intended as a personal insult, if it has been taken as such, I unreservedly apologise.
As you have mentioned Westbourne, yes, I walk through several times a week with all the pollution from cars and buses at a standstill for the whole of the working day all caused by people trying to park on the street, traffic lights and a zebra crossing permantly in use. Most of the time it is gridlocked!! I fail to see how Christmas lights and floral displays will improve the through put of congested traffic in Parkstone, it certainly dosn't in Westbourne. Once again, my sole argument on this subject is that nothing is being done for anybody except a few cyclists. The congestion will remain for the motorist and so will the pollution for the shoppers and pedestrians or may be you could explain to me and others, how the traffic will speed up and continually move from Sea View through Redlands and on to Bournemouth. I wait with baited breath.
wackerone is correct & got my thumbs up for stating the absolute obvious to you all. My approach is for cllr Dion to;
1st- stop all heavy goods vehicles from using Ashley Road from 0730(going to work) untill 1800(back home from work), fine anyone/company who via camera who ignores the warnings!(cllr Dions revenue goes up massively.
2nd- demand that all buses e.g 'Wilts & Dorset' reduce their fares at the above time by say a 1/4 ammount encouraging people to use public transport.
2 simple ideas easily implemented which guarantees success at no cost to tax payers but a few cameras (which also can be used to fight crime)
[quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jeff in Parkstone[/bold] wrote: Wackerone - can you not advance your arguments and views wihout resorting to attemps at personal insult - and this from behind a pseudonym ? Arguing for less pollution and a healthier and more attractive high street is hardly utopian - more a case of achieving what everyone wants - a busy and successful high street we can be proud of ... Is it too much to ask Wackerone you go and have a look at Westbourne - dozens of floral displays through the summer - christmas lights all down the high street. Is that Utopian ? - or a high street makign the best of itself, and benefitting ... Jeff Williams[/p][/quote]Nothing that I have said has been intended as a personal insult, if it has been taken as such, I unreservedly apologise. As you have mentioned Westbourne, yes, I walk through several times a week with all the pollution from cars and buses at a standstill for the whole of the working day all caused by people trying to park on the street, traffic lights and a zebra crossing permantly in use. Most of the time it is gridlocked!! I fail to see how Christmas lights and floral displays will improve the through put of congested traffic in Parkstone, it certainly dosn't in Westbourne. Once again, my sole argument on this subject is that nothing is being done for anybody except a few cyclists. The congestion will remain for the motorist and so will the pollution for the shoppers and pedestrians or may be you could explain to me and others, how the traffic will speed up and continually move from Sea View through Redlands and on to Bournemouth. I wait with baited breath.[/p][/quote]wackerone is correct & got my thumbs up for stating the absolute obvious to you all. My approach is for cllr Dion to; 1st- stop all heavy goods vehicles from using Ashley Road from 0730(going to work) untill 1800(back home from work), fine anyone/company who via camera who ignores the warnings!(cllr Dions revenue goes up massively. 2nd- demand that all buses e.g 'Wilts & Dorset' reduce their fares at the above time by say a 1/4 ammount encouraging people to use public transport. 2 simple ideas easily implemented which guarantees success at no cost to tax payers but a few cameras (which also can be used to fight crime) matthew bell

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