VIDEO: Campaigners hold mock funeral for Boscombe's BCCA building

Campaigners hold mock funeral for Boscombe's BCCA building

Campaigners hold mock funeral for Boscombe's BCCA building

Campaigners hold mock funeral for Boscombe's BCCA building

Campaigners hold mock funeral for Boscombe's BCCA building

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CAMPAIGNERS in Victorian dress held a mock funeral march to highlight their anger at the impending demolition of Boscombe’s BCCA building.

The Bournemouth Centre for Community Arts building in Haviland Road will be knocked down to make way for 11 homes and a new “creative hub”, which protesters say will be inadequate.

Some 40 of those opposed to the plans marched through the precinct from Chaplain’s bar in Christchurch Road to the BCCA for its funeral service, all dressed in Victorian clothing to highlight the partially-listed building’s history.

Linda Ni’man, of the Friends of the BCCA, which organised the event, said: “It ironic that our route took us past the tents where the Great Exhibition of Boscombe events were taking place in the precinct.

“If Boscombe apparently already has art venues, why did this event have to be held outside in the rain and in shop windows?

“This area has been degenerated, courtesy of the council, and it is great to see all the people who have turned out to register their support for the BCCA.”

She denied that the march was a futile gesture. “There is always hope that the councillors might change their minds,” she said.

“And we won’t stop until the last brick falls.

“This building was granted to the people of Boscombe by Sir Percy Florence Shelley, and others, and it was granted ‘forever’.”

Among those taking part was Paul Tucker, 49, from Pokesdown. He said: “It is a travesty knocking down the arts centre. There is nothing for young people to do around here.

“The council keep knocking down community buildings. One day we will stop them.”

Bournemouth council says the Gladstone Mews development, which will also include a community orchard and allotments, will provide much-needed affordable housing in Boscombe.

The scheme should be complete by next summer, when the ownership of the site will transfer to the Bournemouth 2026 Trust.

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6:29pm Sun 13 Oct 13

ab8 says...

In a week that has seen a murder in Boscombe, this bunch of self-indulgent idiots think it is OK to parade through the streets with a coffin? Fools!
In a week that has seen a murder in Boscombe, this bunch of self-indulgent idiots think it is OK to parade through the streets with a coffin? Fools! ab8
  • Score: -7

6:50pm Sun 13 Oct 13

Boscomite says...

ab8 wrote:
In a week that has seen a murder in Boscombe, this bunch of self-indulgent idiots think it is OK to parade through the streets with a coffin? Fools!
The two events were un-related. This was planned long before the murder took place. If you stopped to think for a momment before posting your sanctimonious comments, you would see that this was a protest against Bournemouth council letting Boscombe slide into the depths by knocking this building down, to build "affordable housing", that will probably be bought by the property developers to rent out. The same property developers that have been responsible for Boscombe's decline for many years now, with full council backing.
[quote][p][bold]ab8[/bold] wrote: In a week that has seen a murder in Boscombe, this bunch of self-indulgent idiots think it is OK to parade through the streets with a coffin? Fools![/p][/quote]The two events were un-related. This was planned long before the murder took place. If you stopped to think for a momment before posting your sanctimonious comments, you would see that this was a protest against Bournemouth council letting Boscombe slide into the depths by knocking this building down, to build "affordable housing", that will probably be bought by the property developers to rent out. The same property developers that have been responsible for Boscombe's decline for many years now, with full council backing. Boscomite
  • Score: 19

7:12pm Sun 13 Oct 13

UZZY says...

Knock down the rest of Boscombe...then we are talking !!
Knock down the rest of Boscombe...then we are talking !! UZZY
  • Score: -8

7:42pm Sun 13 Oct 13

muscliffman says...

These well intended people of Boscombe should concentrate on why the decisions on this BCCA site were taken and which bodies/individuals were able to influence them.

They may then also happen upon why the major issues of their unfortunate suburb (despite plenty of lip service) are NOT likely to be seriously tackled in the foreseeable future.
These well intended people of Boscombe should concentrate on why the decisions on this BCCA site were taken and which bodies/individuals were able to influence them. They may then also happen upon why the major issues of their unfortunate suburb (despite plenty of lip service) are NOT likely to be seriously tackled in the foreseeable future. muscliffman
  • Score: 3

7:48pm Sun 13 Oct 13

BIGTONE says...

Dirt cheap land for developers to make a fortune.......no brainier.
Dirt cheap land for developers to make a fortune.......no brainier. BIGTONE
  • Score: 24

8:18pm Sun 13 Oct 13

Boscomite says...

muscliffman wrote:
These well intended people of Boscombe should concentrate on why the decisions on this BCCA site were taken and which bodies/individuals were able to influence them.

They may then also happen upon why the major issues of their unfortunate suburb (despite plenty of lip service) are NOT likely to be seriously tackled in the foreseeable future.
I think everybody realises who is influencing the BBC. The problem is that even if everybody in Boscombe voted for independent councilors, they would still be up against the rest of BBC. It's time that everybody realised that Boscombe is not an isolated area, but a part of the local community. The people of Boscombe are trying to do their bit, but need the rest of Bournemouth behind them.
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: These well intended people of Boscombe should concentrate on why the decisions on this BCCA site were taken and which bodies/individuals were able to influence them. They may then also happen upon why the major issues of their unfortunate suburb (despite plenty of lip service) are NOT likely to be seriously tackled in the foreseeable future.[/p][/quote]I think everybody realises who is influencing the BBC. The problem is that even if everybody in Boscombe voted for independent councilors, they would still be up against the rest of BBC. It's time that everybody realised that Boscombe is not an isolated area, but a part of the local community. The people of Boscombe are trying to do their bit, but need the rest of Bournemouth behind them. Boscomite
  • Score: 17

9:26pm Sun 13 Oct 13

b26b says...

Boscomite wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
These well intended people of Boscombe should concentrate on why the decisions on this BCCA site were taken and which bodies/individuals were able to influence them.

They may then also happen upon why the major issues of their unfortunate suburb (despite plenty of lip service) are NOT likely to be seriously tackled in the foreseeable future.
I think everybody realises who is influencing the BBC. The problem is that even if everybody in Boscombe voted for independent councilors, they would still be up against the rest of BBC. It's time that everybody realised that Boscombe is not an isolated area, but a part of the local community. The people of Boscombe are trying to do their bit, but need the rest of Bournemouth behind them.
Agree 100% The BBC have successfully managed to get the rest of the town to turn against Boscombe. Beesely has got to go
[quote][p][bold]Boscomite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: These well intended people of Boscombe should concentrate on why the decisions on this BCCA site were taken and which bodies/individuals were able to influence them. They may then also happen upon why the major issues of their unfortunate suburb (despite plenty of lip service) are NOT likely to be seriously tackled in the foreseeable future.[/p][/quote]I think everybody realises who is influencing the BBC. The problem is that even if everybody in Boscombe voted for independent councilors, they would still be up against the rest of BBC. It's time that everybody realised that Boscombe is not an isolated area, but a part of the local community. The people of Boscombe are trying to do their bit, but need the rest of Bournemouth behind them.[/p][/quote]Agree 100% The BBC have successfully managed to get the rest of the town to turn against Boscombe. Beesely has got to go b26b
  • Score: 14

10:07pm Sun 13 Oct 13

dog the hunter says...

Leave it alone, it was gifted for life. Don,t let Dave Wells get his hands on it.
Leave it alone, it was gifted for life. Don,t let Dave Wells get his hands on it. dog the hunter
  • Score: 11

10:26pm Sun 13 Oct 13

politicaltrainspotter says...

the tories in this town are not going to get the majority that they held in the past.They know it and insiders have told me.

We must kill apathy and understand the power of the ballot box.The tories in Boscombe reach out to the stable area on the southside of Christchurch Road toward the sea-front.The north side is still too transient.Their core strategy is to use their private cars as taxis to the polling station.Phone calls are made to the elderly and those without transport to get them there.

But lets remember that the tory candidate in the police and crime commisioners election took a battering in his own back yard.

You people of Boscombe deserve better than this.'Judas Jane and Wimpy Wakefield'.They don't care about you. Puppets and you don't need to look closely to see the strings and who pulls them.Look at Harry Cutler, he may of made mistakes but you could never take away from him that his heart was with the people of Boscombe.Since his de-selection many year's ago the ward has never, ever been served.Copeland, Markwell to name a few.Copeland took the money, disappeared to Eastleigh and then resigned.

Forget about regeneration.There isn't any.They've just started to pay the rent on the office in Roumelia Lane and even then i think there is a shortfall.The place is in a mess but that is not a bad thing.When the puppets come out of denial then things will prosper but slowly.

Cosying up to the Boscombe Community Interest Company an organisation that has done nothing and is very selective in who gets in.Come on if your a community company, wheres the minutes and where the funds kept ? Subject Access Request would reveal those details.

I am sick and tired of puesdo councillors who are businessmen, property developers and clown running this town.It's time for change.People with coal face politics and understanding the man, woman, family in the street.
the tories in this town are not going to get the majority that they held in the past.They know it and insiders have told me. We must kill apathy and understand the power of the ballot box.The tories in Boscombe reach out to the stable area on the southside of Christchurch Road toward the sea-front.The north side is still too transient.Their core strategy is to use their private cars as taxis to the polling station.Phone calls are made to the elderly and those without transport to get them there. But lets remember that the tory candidate in the police and crime commisioners election took a battering in his own back yard. You people of Boscombe deserve better than this.'Judas Jane and Wimpy Wakefield'.They don't care about you. Puppets and you don't need to look closely to see the strings and who pulls them.Look at Harry Cutler, he may of made mistakes but you could never take away from him that his heart was with the people of Boscombe.Since his de-selection many year's ago the ward has never, ever been served.Copeland, Markwell to name a few.Copeland took the money, disappeared to Eastleigh and then resigned. Forget about regeneration.There isn't any.They've just started to pay the rent on the office in Roumelia Lane and even then i think there is a shortfall.The place is in a mess but that is not a bad thing.When the puppets come out of denial then things will prosper but slowly. Cosying up to the Boscombe Community Interest Company an organisation that has done nothing and is very selective in who gets in.Come on if your a community company, wheres the minutes and where the funds kept ? Subject Access Request would reveal those details. I am sick and tired of puesdo councillors who are businessmen, property developers and clown running this town.It's time for change.People with coal face politics and understanding the man, woman, family in the street. politicaltrainspotter
  • Score: 16

1:50am Mon 14 Oct 13

hrryseccombe says...

muscliffman wrote:
These well intended people of Boscombe should concentrate on why the decisions on this BCCA site were taken and which bodies/individuals were able to influence them.

They may then also happen upon why the major issues of their unfortunate suburb (despite plenty of lip service) are NOT likely to be seriously tackled in the foreseeable future.
You always comment with a level head and a judicious reserve, you obviously have a thorough comprehension of the machinations and inner workings of our council. If you ever feel you wish to pass some more detailed information on feel free to email me, anonymously if you like, on harrysecombe@virginm
edia.com
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: These well intended people of Boscombe should concentrate on why the decisions on this BCCA site were taken and which bodies/individuals were able to influence them. They may then also happen upon why the major issues of their unfortunate suburb (despite plenty of lip service) are NOT likely to be seriously tackled in the foreseeable future.[/p][/quote]You always comment with a level head and a judicious reserve, you obviously have a thorough comprehension of the machinations and inner workings of our council. If you ever feel you wish to pass some more detailed information on feel free to email me, anonymously if you like, on harrysecombe@virginm edia.com hrryseccombe
  • Score: 1

1:53am Mon 14 Oct 13

hrryseccombe says...

When I asked Leader of the Council, Cllr Beesley, at full council why he had not responded to award winning regeneration architect John Burrell who wrote in his email to Cllr Beesley and Bob Boulton of B2026, that the plans for this site were likely to have "significant ongoing in-use , management, sustainability, security and safety issues" and urged attending to them as a priority, even offering his services for free. John Beesley responded on public record that he felt it ok to ignore John Burrell's concerns as they were not raised at the planning meeting a year and a half before. To say I was astounded at this response is an understatement. I find it shocking that serious concerns from a leading British architect (currently regenerating Spittlefields market in London) would be completely ignored, John Burrell had not seen the plans at the time of the planning meeting. these concerns should have been tackled not ignored, this is called due diligence and it is the least that could be done whilst handling such a complex and controversial project. It shows a clear lack of concern for due process from a council that has made error after error over the last few years ( such as allowing the surf reef to be built without a construction contract in place, handing over 5 departments to a near bankrupt mouchel against the advice of the chief finance officer amongst other terrible and costly mistakes). So it seems we will have a Gladstone Mews Development which may be beset with problems and will potentially cause more problems than it is claimed it will solve.



I also asked at the last council meeting about whether it was wise to demolish this facility before the independent report into community provision is released. (commissioned by Bournemouth 2026 to resolve the fears of the community over a lack of community provision which was shown in the independent study from Boscombe Charity Creative Kids which sat at odds with the council report used by the officer at planning after which Cllr Roger West said he had felt "misled" by the council report which quoted bars and clubs and restaurants as similar community facities to the bcca). Mr Beesley gave me a vague sprawling response which did not really answer the question, and he even stated that the judge ruled that the Friends of the Bcca's court case was "without merit". This was thoroughly disingenuous for 2 reasons. Firstly I am not part of this friends group, I represent business and art interests in the area, so this had very little to do with my question and concerns. Secondly I have seen a solicitors letter which explains that the judge in question only ruled on the reasons why the Friends case was brought late and did not consider the actual evidence of improper procedure and other evidence that the friends were bringing against the council, time constraints are very strict for appeal and the judge ruled the friends reasons for bringing a late appeal (which I believe were largely financial ) was "without merit. It seems Cllr Beesley received some bad advice from his officers in quoting this ruling in such an unclear way that might be considered to mislead or confuse less well informed people and councillors, indeed this very same issue was brought up in the Boscombe Forum by Cllr Jane Kelly and was answered by Mrs Linda Ni'man and is on public record, there should be no reason for such a faux pas. I asked if it was prudent to demolish in advance of the findings of the report. It is interesting to note that this report was presented in August 2013 and payments have been made by Bournemouth 2026, yet the report has not been made available to the public by Bournemouth 2026. I have a copy and it is very clear from reading it why Bournemouth 2026 are withholding it until the demolition is completed. A commentator on a previous thread was quite right in that one of the recommendations is to turn the burnt out Cliff End Hotel into an Arts Centre, but there is much more in this report for the discerning reader. Again we see a complete lack of transparency from not only the council but also from Bournemouth 2026.



The council keeps referring to the Friends of the BCCA as if this group were the only group capable or interested in reopening this site for the public. I know of at least 3 other groups. The council often states, without evidence or any substantiation whatsoever, that the business plan from the friends of the BCCA was not viable. I have looked at the plan and at over 100 pages I have never seen such a thorough and detailed plan in all my time in business. The plan had the backing of council officers at one time and many other people, including Mark Cribb and Andy Lennox from the successful Urban and Koh Thai chains, they removed their support when the occupy protest took place, for obvious reasons which had nothing to do with the viability of the plan. This statement regarding the plans which I frequently hear from people is disingenuous and I still await some reasoning and evidence to support this seemingly misleading assertation. The focus on BCCA friends as the only viable group is also misleading and had the council allowed Localism to take place we would have seen several Community Bids to run this site. This would have been a chance for the council to allow community groups to bid and would have allowed a much more transparent reasoning for the site. The delay would have been 6 months and that would have ended in June this year (so no delay) but the council chose to interpret the localism law in such a way as to not allow this process to happen which I see as very cynical and not in the spirit of working together and healthy community relations.



I am thoroughly disappointed in the conduct of the council, the lack of essential community engagement, the lack of due diligence and process in this whole sorrowful affair. I believe a PUBLIC INQUIRY should take place into this affair and an immediate HALT to the ongoing demolition until this investigation is completed, it is the Boscombe community who will lose out and this will be IRREVERSIBLE. The Bcca has served the Boscombe community for over 100 years and is much loved, it could make a huge difference to the well being of a 20,000 strong community as well as servicing the arts needs of the entire town. It could help socially regenerate the area as well as bringing in tourists into the heart of the area (unlike the Shelley Theatre which is away from the businesses and only able to open at weekends and evenings) and could play a vital role in an economic regeneration of Boscombe. It would of course be central to the plan of regenerating the area via the creative industries which is a good idea and was recommended to use the bcca in such a way in the STRATEGIC ASSESSMENT REPORT commissioned by Bournemouth 2026, why the council chose to ignore this and instead demolish is totally perplexing.
When I asked Leader of the Council, Cllr Beesley, at full council why he had not responded to award winning regeneration architect John Burrell who wrote in his email to Cllr Beesley and Bob Boulton of B2026, that the plans for this site were likely to have "significant ongoing in-use , management, sustainability, security and safety issues" and urged attending to them as a priority, even offering his services for free. John Beesley responded on public record that he felt it ok to ignore John Burrell's concerns as they were not raised at the planning meeting a year and a half before. To say I was astounded at this response is an understatement. I find it shocking that serious concerns from a leading British architect (currently regenerating Spittlefields market in London) would be completely ignored, John Burrell had not seen the plans at the time of the planning meeting. these concerns should have been tackled not ignored, this is called due diligence and it is the least that could be done whilst handling such a complex and controversial project. It shows a clear lack of concern for due process from a council that has made error after error over the last few years ( such as allowing the surf reef to be built without a construction contract in place, handing over 5 departments to a near bankrupt mouchel against the advice of the chief finance officer amongst other terrible and costly mistakes). So it seems we will have a Gladstone Mews Development which may be beset with problems and will potentially cause more problems than it is claimed it will solve. I also asked at the last council meeting about whether it was wise to demolish this facility before the independent report into community provision is released. (commissioned by Bournemouth 2026 to resolve the fears of the community over a lack of community provision which was shown in the independent study from Boscombe Charity Creative Kids which sat at odds with the council report used by the officer at planning after which Cllr Roger West said he had felt "misled" by the council report which quoted bars and clubs and restaurants as similar community facities to the bcca). Mr Beesley gave me a vague sprawling response which did not really answer the question, and he even stated that the judge ruled that the Friends of the Bcca's court case was "without merit". This was thoroughly disingenuous for 2 reasons. Firstly I am not part of this friends group, I represent business and art interests in the area, so this had very little to do with my question and concerns. Secondly I have seen a solicitors letter which explains that the judge in question only ruled on the reasons why the Friends case was brought late and did not consider the actual evidence of improper procedure and other evidence that the friends were bringing against the council, time constraints are very strict for appeal and the judge ruled the friends reasons for bringing a late appeal (which I believe were largely financial ) was "without merit. It seems Cllr Beesley received some bad advice from his officers in quoting this ruling in such an unclear way that might be considered to mislead or confuse less well informed people and councillors, indeed this very same issue was brought up in the Boscombe Forum by Cllr Jane Kelly and was answered by Mrs Linda Ni'man and is on public record, there should be no reason for such a faux pas. I asked if it was prudent to demolish in advance of the findings of the report. It is interesting to note that this report was presented in August 2013 and payments have been made by Bournemouth 2026, yet the report has not been made available to the public by Bournemouth 2026. I have a copy and it is very clear from reading it why Bournemouth 2026 are withholding it until the demolition is completed. A commentator on a previous thread was quite right in that one of the recommendations is to turn the burnt out Cliff End Hotel into an Arts Centre, but there is much more in this report for the discerning reader. Again we see a complete lack of transparency from not only the council but also from Bournemouth 2026. The council keeps referring to the Friends of the BCCA as if this group were the only group capable or interested in reopening this site for the public. I know of at least 3 other groups. The council often states, without evidence or any substantiation whatsoever, that the business plan from the friends of the BCCA was not viable. I have looked at the plan and at over 100 pages I have never seen such a thorough and detailed plan in all my time in business. The plan had the backing of council officers at one time and many other people, including Mark Cribb and Andy Lennox from the successful Urban and Koh Thai chains, they removed their support when the occupy protest took place, for obvious reasons which had nothing to do with the viability of the plan. This statement regarding the plans which I frequently hear from people is disingenuous and I still await some reasoning and evidence to support this seemingly misleading assertation. The focus on BCCA friends as the only viable group is also misleading and had the council allowed Localism to take place we would have seen several Community Bids to run this site. This would have been a chance for the council to allow community groups to bid and would have allowed a much more transparent reasoning for the site. The delay would have been 6 months and that would have ended in June this year (so no delay) but the council chose to interpret the localism law in such a way as to not allow this process to happen which I see as very cynical and not in the spirit of working together and healthy community relations. I am thoroughly disappointed in the conduct of the council, the lack of essential community engagement, the lack of due diligence and process in this whole sorrowful affair. I believe a PUBLIC INQUIRY should take place into this affair and an immediate HALT to the ongoing demolition until this investigation is completed, it is the Boscombe community who will lose out and this will be IRREVERSIBLE. The Bcca has served the Boscombe community for over 100 years and is much loved, it could make a huge difference to the well being of a 20,000 strong community as well as servicing the arts needs of the entire town. It could help socially regenerate the area as well as bringing in tourists into the heart of the area (unlike the Shelley Theatre which is away from the businesses and only able to open at weekends and evenings) and could play a vital role in an economic regeneration of Boscombe. It would of course be central to the plan of regenerating the area via the creative industries which is a good idea and was recommended to use the bcca in such a way in the STRATEGIC ASSESSMENT REPORT commissioned by Bournemouth 2026, why the council chose to ignore this and instead demolish is totally perplexing. hrryseccombe
  • Score: 12

8:02am Mon 14 Oct 13

madislaine@gmail.com says...

This is primarily a Conservative Town the redevelopment of this site in a
chronically densely populated suburb reflects the idealogy of this Party
If our local Councillors really do want to regenerate this part of Town
three of four well built good quality family houses should be Built on this site
with Freehold tenures these type of properties may attract working families
I am not sure the Council can sell the properties Freehold because of rights
of ownership another dilemma Not many people would want to buy a house
with a Leashold Tenure
If anyone really is trying to solve Boscombe's Social Problems stop the
constant development of Low Cost Housing
There are lots of situations and land where houses can be built in and around Bournemouth
The Policy of containment is not working
The majority of people now living in Boscombe are not local do not have roots locally
The constant supply of cheap low cost rentals has destroyed Boscombe
as it would any suburb
The Conservative Club in Boscombe in such a prominent place what an absolute Blot on the Landscape Prime Central Site
Isnt it about time the Council cleaned up its own Buildings before looking
further afield in its new found zest for Boscombe
This is primarily a Conservative Town the redevelopment of this site in a chronically densely populated suburb reflects the idealogy of this Party If our local Councillors really do want to regenerate this part of Town three of four well built good quality family houses should be Built on this site with Freehold tenures these type of properties may attract working families I am not sure the Council can sell the properties Freehold because of rights of ownership another dilemma Not many people would want to buy a house with a Leashold Tenure If anyone really is trying to solve Boscombe's Social Problems stop the constant development of Low Cost Housing There are lots of situations and land where houses can be built in and around Bournemouth The Policy of containment is not working The majority of people now living in Boscombe are not local do not have roots locally The constant supply of cheap low cost rentals has destroyed Boscombe as it would any suburb The Conservative Club in Boscombe in such a prominent place what an absolute Blot on the Landscape Prime Central Site Isnt it about time the Council cleaned up its own Buildings before looking further afield in its new found zest for Boscombe madislaine@gmail.com
  • Score: 2

10:01am Mon 14 Oct 13

TalkToTheTrees says...

What involvement does Bournemouth Council's arts team (AKA 'Arts Bournemouth) have in this process? Surely it is part of Chris Morgan and Carol Maund's jobs to support and develop arts across the town?
What involvement does Bournemouth Council's arts team (AKA 'Arts Bournemouth) have in this process? Surely it is part of Chris Morgan and Carol Maund's jobs to support and develop arts across the town? TalkToTheTrees
  • Score: 4

3:32pm Mon 14 Oct 13

muscliffman says...

b26b wrote:
Boscomite wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
These well intended people of Boscombe should concentrate on why the decisions on this BCCA site were taken and which bodies/individuals were able to influence them.

They may then also happen upon why the major issues of their unfortunate suburb (despite plenty of lip service) are NOT likely to be seriously tackled in the foreseeable future.
I think everybody realises who is influencing the BBC. The problem is that even if everybody in Boscombe voted for independent councilors, they would still be up against the rest of BBC. It's time that everybody realised that Boscombe is not an isolated area, but a part of the local community. The people of Boscombe are trying to do their bit, but need the rest of Bournemouth behind them.
Agree 100% The BBC have successfully managed to get the rest of the town to turn against Boscombe. Beesely has got to go
Maybe, but then large parts of Winton are becoming indistinguishable from Boscombe in appearance, culture and residential profile - and surprise, surprise the same names crop up (or are well hidden!) raking it in behind the scenes.
[quote][p][bold]b26b[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boscomite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: These well intended people of Boscombe should concentrate on why the decisions on this BCCA site were taken and which bodies/individuals were able to influence them. They may then also happen upon why the major issues of their unfortunate suburb (despite plenty of lip service) are NOT likely to be seriously tackled in the foreseeable future.[/p][/quote]I think everybody realises who is influencing the BBC. The problem is that even if everybody in Boscombe voted for independent councilors, they would still be up against the rest of BBC. It's time that everybody realised that Boscombe is not an isolated area, but a part of the local community. The people of Boscombe are trying to do their bit, but need the rest of Bournemouth behind them.[/p][/quote]Agree 100% The BBC have successfully managed to get the rest of the town to turn against Boscombe. Beesely has got to go[/p][/quote]Maybe, but then large parts of Winton are becoming indistinguishable from Boscombe in appearance, culture and residential profile - and surprise, surprise the same names crop up (or are well hidden!) raking it in behind the scenes. muscliffman
  • Score: 0

4:50pm Mon 14 Oct 13

Boscomite says...

muscliffman wrote:
b26b wrote:
Boscomite wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
These well intended people of Boscombe should concentrate on why the decisions on this BCCA site were taken and which bodies/individuals were able to influence them.

They may then also happen upon why the major issues of their unfortunate suburb (despite plenty of lip service) are NOT likely to be seriously tackled in the foreseeable future.
I think everybody realises who is influencing the BBC. The problem is that even if everybody in Boscombe voted for independent councilors, they would still be up against the rest of BBC. It's time that everybody realised that Boscombe is not an isolated area, but a part of the local community. The people of Boscombe are trying to do their bit, but need the rest of Bournemouth behind them.
Agree 100% The BBC have successfully managed to get the rest of the town to turn against Boscombe. Beesely has got to go
Maybe, but then large parts of Winton are becoming indistinguishable from Boscombe in appearance, culture and residential profile - and surprise, surprise the same names crop up (or are well hidden!) raking it in behind the scenes.
Perhaps we should be looking at where our coucilors choose to live themselves.
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]b26b[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boscomite[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: These well intended people of Boscombe should concentrate on why the decisions on this BCCA site were taken and which bodies/individuals were able to influence them. They may then also happen upon why the major issues of their unfortunate suburb (despite plenty of lip service) are NOT likely to be seriously tackled in the foreseeable future.[/p][/quote]I think everybody realises who is influencing the BBC. The problem is that even if everybody in Boscombe voted for independent councilors, they would still be up against the rest of BBC. It's time that everybody realised that Boscombe is not an isolated area, but a part of the local community. The people of Boscombe are trying to do their bit, but need the rest of Bournemouth behind them.[/p][/quote]Agree 100% The BBC have successfully managed to get the rest of the town to turn against Boscombe. Beesely has got to go[/p][/quote]Maybe, but then large parts of Winton are becoming indistinguishable from Boscombe in appearance, culture and residential profile - and surprise, surprise the same names crop up (or are well hidden!) raking it in behind the scenes.[/p][/quote]Perhaps we should be looking at where our coucilors choose to live themselves. Boscomite
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