Bus drivers vote for strike action

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BUS drivers from Wilts and Dorset voted today to take strike action over changes to their shift times and the imposition of unpaid meal breaks.

The RMT union ballot, which began on January 23, saw 277 votes cast, with 190 in favour of strike action. Also, 228 workers voted in favour of taking industrial action short of a strike.

According to the union, the company, which operates in Dorset, Wiltshire, Hampshire and Somerset and is part of the national Go Ahead group, has threatened to cut some of its bus routes if workers don’t accept the changes.

Wilts and Dorset has not been informed of the date of any potential strike.

In a statement to customers they said: “As your bus operator we want to reassure you that discussions are ongoing with the trade union to find a sensible resolution so that you are not affected in anyway.

“Even if there were to be a strike called, we can assure customers we will be running services and any disruption would be kept to a minimum.”

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8:21pm Thu 7 Feb 13

BIGTONE says...

No difference to services then?
No difference to services then? BIGTONE
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8:29pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Lewcee says...

More info please... are they imposing what amounts to "split shifts"? (They went out with the ark). Does this mean that a driver can legally abandon his bus, mid-route, and claim that "It is my meal-break, I am no longer responsible for the bus, and cannot drive it as I am not insured, I am off-duty on meal break..."? C'mon, Wilts & Dorset, what's the real problem? The Echo story says diddley-squat in facts.
More info please... are they imposing what amounts to "split shifts"? (They went out with the ark). Does this mean that a driver can legally abandon his bus, mid-route, and claim that "It is my meal-break, I am no longer responsible for the bus, and cannot drive it as I am not insured, I am off-duty on meal break..."? C'mon, Wilts & Dorset, what's the real problem? The Echo story says diddley-squat in facts. Lewcee
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8:55pm Thu 7 Feb 13

rich53 says...

Now get the teachers to strike and the roads will be empty,
no buses or school runs!!
Now get the teachers to strike and the roads will be empty, no buses or school runs!! rich53
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9:14pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Baywolf says...

The tip of the ice berg..when employers start to impose changes to employment rights for the betterment of the services they provide to the public it's a slippery process of diminishing workers rights. Strike action is the only course employees have to protect themselves, sadly in this age of austerity imposed by central government there will be more of this to come.
The tip of the ice berg..when employers start to impose changes to employment rights for the betterment of the services they provide to the public it's a slippery process of diminishing workers rights. Strike action is the only course employees have to protect themselves, sadly in this age of austerity imposed by central government there will be more of this to come. Baywolf
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9:15pm Thu 7 Feb 13

paulthefish says...

Lewcee wrote:
More info please... are they imposing what amounts to "split shifts"? (They went out with the ark). Does this mean that a driver can legally abandon his bus, mid-route, and claim that "It is my meal-break, I am no longer responsible for the bus, and cannot drive it as I am not insured, I am off-duty on meal break..."? C'mon, Wilts & Dorset, what's the real problem? The Echo story says diddley-squat in facts.
split shifts do still exsist at w&d. though most of these shifts are worked by those who wish to do so. and, no,a driver cannot abandon his bus. what a stupid comment!!
[quote][p][bold]Lewcee[/bold] wrote: More info please... are they imposing what amounts to "split shifts"? (They went out with the ark). Does this mean that a driver can legally abandon his bus, mid-route, and claim that "It is my meal-break, I am no longer responsible for the bus, and cannot drive it as I am not insured, I am off-duty on meal break..."? C'mon, Wilts & Dorset, what's the real problem? The Echo story says diddley-squat in facts.[/p][/quote]split shifts do still exsist at w&d. though most of these shifts are worked by those who wish to do so. and, no,a driver cannot abandon his bus. what a stupid comment!! paulthefish
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9:25pm Thu 7 Feb 13

Mocov1 says...

rich53 wrote:
Now get the teachers to strike and the roads will be empty,
no buses or school runs!!
Good point, clearly the removal of buses will obviously reduce traffic on our roads. Next time you drive past a bus count the passengers v your car and work the rest out yourself!
[quote][p][bold]rich53[/bold] wrote: Now get the teachers to strike and the roads will be empty, no buses or school runs!![/p][/quote]Good point, clearly the removal of buses will obviously reduce traffic on our roads. Next time you drive past a bus count the passengers v your car and work the rest out yourself! Mocov1
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10:23pm Thu 7 Feb 13

what i think says...

cutting routes if drivers dont oblige, i say the government needs to enforce the need to provide a decent reliable public transport, i hardly think go ahead are in trouble, what did the new fleet of m1/2's cost? dont see many new buses on yellow? go to berlin pay 6 euros 20 cents per day for unlimited any mode of public transport til 3am. go ahead seem to be progressive but forcing staff to take down grades in rights and standards is a miserable out dated management style that i have no respect for. its a load of rubbish go ahead, sort your selves out and look after your staff!
cutting routes if drivers dont oblige, i say the government needs to enforce the need to provide a decent reliable public transport, i hardly think go ahead are in trouble, what did the new fleet of m1/2's cost? dont see many new buses on yellow? go to berlin pay 6 euros 20 cents per day for unlimited any mode of public transport til 3am. go ahead seem to be progressive but forcing staff to take down grades in rights and standards is a miserable out dated management style that i have no respect for. its a load of rubbish go ahead, sort your selves out and look after your staff! what i think
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1:13am Fri 8 Feb 13

billd766 says...

In all my 50 years of working life I never got paid for my meal breaks.
I also worked shifts as and when required especially as it was explained to me beforehand what the terms and conditions were.
I never joined a union either but have never minded those who do. What I would like to see however is that every time any union ballots its members and a strike results the union staff should get the same money as the strikers.
In all my 50 years of working life I never got paid for my meal breaks. I also worked shifts as and when required especially as it was explained to me beforehand what the terms and conditions were. I never joined a union either but have never minded those who do. What I would like to see however is that every time any union ballots its members and a strike results the union staff should get the same money as the strikers. billd766
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4:26am Fri 8 Feb 13

Linguist says...

Mocov1 wrote:
rich53 wrote:
Now get the teachers to strike and the roads will be empty,
no buses or school runs!!
Good point, clearly the removal of buses will obviously reduce traffic on our roads. Next time you drive past a bus count the passengers v your car and work the rest out yourself!
Next time you are stuck in a traffic jam between Ashley road, Parkstone and Bournemouth town centre count the number of W&D + yellow buses in the traffic with NOT many people on.
[quote][p][bold]Mocov1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rich53[/bold] wrote: Now get the teachers to strike and the roads will be empty, no buses or school runs!![/p][/quote]Good point, clearly the removal of buses will obviously reduce traffic on our roads. Next time you drive past a bus count the passengers v your car and work the rest out yourself![/p][/quote]Next time you are stuck in a traffic jam between Ashley road, Parkstone and Bournemouth town centre count the number of W&D + yellow buses in the traffic with NOT many people on. Linguist
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5:55am Fri 8 Feb 13

justsayithowitis says...

billd766 wrote:
In all my 50 years of working life I never got paid for my meal breaks.
I also worked shifts as and when required especially as it was explained to me beforehand what the terms and conditions were.
I never joined a union either but have never minded those who do. What I would like to see however is that every time any union ballots its members and a strike results the union staff should get the same money as the strikers.
I have never been paid for my meal breaks either. Lucky bus drivers. Perhaps I should go on strike to get my breaks paid for.
[quote][p][bold]billd766[/bold] wrote: In all my 50 years of working life I never got paid for my meal breaks. I also worked shifts as and when required especially as it was explained to me beforehand what the terms and conditions were. I never joined a union either but have never minded those who do. What I would like to see however is that every time any union ballots its members and a strike results the union staff should get the same money as the strikers.[/p][/quote]I have never been paid for my meal breaks either. Lucky bus drivers. Perhaps I should go on strike to get my breaks paid for. justsayithowitis
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8:16am Fri 8 Feb 13

Baywolf says...

Companies large and small have the right to recognise a union membership if a third of the company employees request union ergo notion. This is where negotiations take place for workers rights once agreed any changes made by the employer for whatever reason has to be renegotiated with the respective unions and their employees to do so without such negotiation is undermines employer union relations and strike action usually results. Unions do not call out a strike for the love of it as employees do not get paid while on industrial action, but is a message to employers that conditions imposed are unfair or unjust.
Companies large and small have the right to recognise a union membership if a third of the company employees request union ergo notion. This is where negotiations take place for workers rights once agreed any changes made by the employer for whatever reason has to be renegotiated with the respective unions and their employees to do so without such negotiation is undermines employer union relations and strike action usually results. Unions do not call out a strike for the love of it as employees do not get paid while on industrial action, but is a message to employers that conditions imposed are unfair or unjust. Baywolf
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8:32am Fri 8 Feb 13

Lord Spring says...

justsayithowitis wrote:
billd766 wrote:
In all my 50 years of working life I never got paid for my meal breaks.
I also worked shifts as and when required especially as it was explained to me beforehand what the terms and conditions were.
I never joined a union either but have never minded those who do. What I would like to see however is that every time any union ballots its members and a strike results the union staff should get the same money as the strikers.
I have never been paid for my meal breaks either. Lucky bus drivers. Perhaps I should go on strike to get my breaks paid for.
I believe if you worked for more than 5 hours continuous you were entiled to 10 min paid break.
[quote][p][bold]justsayithowitis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billd766[/bold] wrote: In all my 50 years of working life I never got paid for my meal breaks. I also worked shifts as and when required especially as it was explained to me beforehand what the terms and conditions were. I never joined a union either but have never minded those who do. What I would like to see however is that every time any union ballots its members and a strike results the union staff should get the same money as the strikers.[/p][/quote]I have never been paid for my meal breaks either. Lucky bus drivers. Perhaps I should go on strike to get my breaks paid for.[/p][/quote]I believe if you worked for more than 5 hours continuous you were entiled to 10 min paid break. Lord Spring
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9:11am Fri 8 Feb 13

Hessenford says...

Lord Spring wrote:
justsayithowitis wrote:
billd766 wrote:
In all my 50 years of working life I never got paid for my meal breaks.
I also worked shifts as and when required especially as it was explained to me beforehand what the terms and conditions were.
I never joined a union either but have never minded those who do. What I would like to see however is that every time any union ballots its members and a strike results the union staff should get the same money as the strikers.
I have never been paid for my meal breaks either. Lucky bus drivers. Perhaps I should go on strike to get my breaks paid for.
I believe if you worked for more than 5 hours continuous you were entiled to 10 min paid break.
PSV and HGV drivers are governed by the working time directive.
Their rights to breaks come under the Road Transport (Working Time) Regulations and the Tachograph regulations and tend to be more generous and which need to take into account issues of fatigue.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justsayithowitis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billd766[/bold] wrote: In all my 50 years of working life I never got paid for my meal breaks. I also worked shifts as and when required especially as it was explained to me beforehand what the terms and conditions were. I never joined a union either but have never minded those who do. What I would like to see however is that every time any union ballots its members and a strike results the union staff should get the same money as the strikers.[/p][/quote]I have never been paid for my meal breaks either. Lucky bus drivers. Perhaps I should go on strike to get my breaks paid for.[/p][/quote]I believe if you worked for more than 5 hours continuous you were entiled to 10 min paid break.[/p][/quote]PSV and HGV drivers are governed by the working time directive. Their rights to breaks come under the Road Transport (Working Time) Regulations and the Tachograph regulations and tend to be more generous and which need to take into account issues of fatigue. Hessenford
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10:54am Fri 8 Feb 13

buickboy says...

W+D drivers do not get paid meal breaks except in special circumstances
Split shifts have to be worked by most drivers at some time or another whether they wish to or not, a small bonus is paid for this.
Night bus drivers are paid a shift 'bonus',
originally offered as an inducement for unsociable hours and carrying 'late night revellers' ( would you want to?), this has been drastically reduced.
Coincidently when 'free' wi-fi was introduced last year W+D managment issued a statement saying that fares would not be increased to pay for it but only if the drivers insisted on a pay rise or fuel costs went up up. There has been no pay increase and fuel is bought months in advance at a very favorable price .
W+D drivers do not get paid meal breaks except in special circumstances Split shifts have to be worked by most drivers at some time or another whether they wish to or not, a small bonus is paid for this. Night bus drivers are paid a shift 'bonus', originally offered as an inducement for unsociable hours and carrying 'late night revellers' ( would you want to?), this has been drastically reduced. Coincidently when 'free' wi-fi was introduced last year W+D managment issued a statement saying that fares would not be increased to pay for it but only if the drivers insisted on a pay rise or fuel costs went up up. There has been no pay increase and fuel is bought months in advance at a very favorable price . buickboy
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4:03pm Fri 8 Feb 13

Howdie says...

buickboy wrote:
W+D drivers do not get paid meal breaks except in special circumstances
Split shifts have to be worked by most drivers at some time or another whether they wish to or not, a small bonus is paid for this.
Night bus drivers are paid a shift 'bonus',
originally offered as an inducement for unsociable hours and carrying 'late night revellers' ( would you want to?), this has been drastically reduced.
Coincidently when 'free' wi-fi was introduced last year W+D managment issued a statement saying that fares would not be increased to pay for it but only if the drivers insisted on a pay rise or fuel costs went up up. There has been no pay increase and fuel is bought months in advance at a very favorable price .
fares went up on Sunday 3rd feb 2013.....but still bad timekeeping on M2 in mornings and not always a wi-fi bus!!!
[quote][p][bold]buickboy[/bold] wrote: W+D drivers do not get paid meal breaks except in special circumstances Split shifts have to be worked by most drivers at some time or another whether they wish to or not, a small bonus is paid for this. Night bus drivers are paid a shift 'bonus', originally offered as an inducement for unsociable hours and carrying 'late night revellers' ( would you want to?), this has been drastically reduced. Coincidently when 'free' wi-fi was introduced last year W+D managment issued a statement saying that fares would not be increased to pay for it but only if the drivers insisted on a pay rise or fuel costs went up up. There has been no pay increase and fuel is bought months in advance at a very favorable price .[/p][/quote]fares went up on Sunday 3rd feb 2013.....but still bad timekeeping on M2 in mornings and not always a wi-fi bus!!! Howdie
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3:18pm Sat 9 Feb 13

Bomo JP says...

justsayithowitis wrote:
billd766 wrote:
In all my 50 years of working life I never got paid for my meal breaks.
I also worked shifts as and when required especially as it was explained to me beforehand what the terms and conditions were.
I never joined a union either but have never minded those who do. What I would like to see however is that every time any union ballots its members and a strike results the union staff should get the same money as the strikers.
I have never been paid for my meal breaks either. Lucky bus drivers. Perhaps I should go on strike to get my breaks paid for.
Typical race to the bottom daily mail comment. I don't get it nor should you!

often made by office staff who only work monday - friday 9-5ish, get bank holidays off, get to choose when they have their leave, maybe get a bit of photcopying done, or a few private letters sent or maybe a bit of internet access.

All jobs have their perks and their draw backs. attacking others for trying to keep their few perks just because you don't get the same is very weak!

I am not a bus driver but I do get my meal breaks paid, i however do not get any of the "perks" listed above however I wont tell you because I don't have it nor should you!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]justsayithowitis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]billd766[/bold] wrote: In all my 50 years of working life I never got paid for my meal breaks. I also worked shifts as and when required especially as it was explained to me beforehand what the terms and conditions were. I never joined a union either but have never minded those who do. What I would like to see however is that every time any union ballots its members and a strike results the union staff should get the same money as the strikers.[/p][/quote]I have never been paid for my meal breaks either. Lucky bus drivers. Perhaps I should go on strike to get my breaks paid for.[/p][/quote]Typical race to the bottom daily mail comment. I don't get it nor should you! often made by office staff who only work monday - friday 9-5ish, get bank holidays off, get to choose when they have their leave, maybe get a bit of photcopying done, or a few private letters sent or maybe a bit of internet access. All jobs have their perks and their draw backs. attacking others for trying to keep their few perks just because you don't get the same is very weak! I am not a bus driver but I do get my meal breaks paid, i however do not get any of the "perks" listed above however I wont tell you because I don't have it nor should you!!!!! Bomo JP
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