Dorset to get £130,000 towards traffic-free cycleway as government gets "serious about cycling"

Bournemouth Echo: Bournemouth to get £130,000 towards traffic-free cycleway as government gets "serious about cycling" Bournemouth to get £130,000 towards traffic-free cycleway as government gets "serious about cycling"

CYCLE facilities in Dorset are in line for a cash boost after the government announced plans to spend £62million promoting cycling.

Dorset will receive £130,000 to upgrade a bridleway and create a traffic-free cycleway route from Trickett’s Cross to Bournemouth Airport.

And £495,000 will be spent creating 258 new cycle parking spaces at 11 railway stations across the south, including Bournemouth, Brockenhurst, Christchurch,. Southampton Airport Parkway and Weymouth.

Sue McGowan, management engineer for Dorset County Council, said the bridleway improvements would encourage commuters to cycle rather than drive.

“We are upgrading the surface and widening it in some parts,” he said.

“We want to provide a better route to link the local communities of Tricketts Cross and Ferndown with the airport and its adjacent business park, so that people can cycle to work more easily. The work will be managed by our rights of way team and will be delivered as part of the Bournemouth, Poole and Dorset Local Transport Plan.”

Transport minister Norman Baker said it is the biggest ever allocation of cycling funds.
“We are serious about cycling, as this latest wave of funding shows,” he said.

“We have already seen how schemes can quickly deliver economic and environmental benefits as well as improving public health.

“Anyone who rides a bike will know it is important to keep the impetus going and this record level of funding will provide a shot in the arm to cycling in England.”

This map shows Trickett's Cross and Bournemouth Airport

  • See a breakdown of how the money will be shared by region here

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11:40am Wed 30 Jan 13

wonderway says...

time the consultants and council officers get their share it should leave 20k to paint a few more cycleways of 20 metres in lenght
time the consultants and council officers get their share it should leave 20k to paint a few more cycleways of 20 metres in lenght wonderway

11:45am Wed 30 Jan 13

mysticalshoelace says...

Another waste of money, what we need are road improvements, ones that don't entail adding more traffic lights!
Another waste of money, what we need are road improvements, ones that don't entail adding more traffic lights! mysticalshoelace

11:46am Wed 30 Jan 13

Isosceles says...

It is about time that they had a cycleway from the M3 at Eastleigh through to Exeter to get some of these dang cyclists off the other roads (:o)
It is about time that they had a cycleway from the M3 at Eastleigh through to Exeter to get some of these dang cyclists off the other roads (:o) Isosceles

11:47am Wed 30 Jan 13

suzigirl says...

What a waste of money! What is the point of cycle lanes when most cyclists don't use them - they prefer the pavements! Pedestrians should try walking in the cycle lanes......
What a waste of money! What is the point of cycle lanes when most cyclists don't use them - they prefer the pavements! Pedestrians should try walking in the cycle lanes...... suzigirl

11:52am Wed 30 Jan 13

Isosceles says...

'traffic-free cycleway route from Trickett’s Cross to Bournemouth Airport.'
There will still be a drop-off fee, won't there?
'traffic-free cycleway route from Trickett’s Cross to Bournemouth Airport.' There will still be a drop-off fee, won't there? Isosceles

12:16pm Wed 30 Jan 13

mudeford7 says...

How many people cycle from Tricketts cross to the Airport >there is a pavement beside the runways never used by pedestrians. Cyclists could use that ,for free without spending £1000,s on it It is needed around the Uni area
How many people cycle from Tricketts cross to the Airport >there is a pavement beside the runways never used by pedestrians. Cyclists could use that ,for free without spending £1000,s on it It is needed around the Uni area mudeford7

12:16pm Wed 30 Jan 13

glennzilla says...

Which part of the bridal way between Trickett's Cross and Bournemouth Airport runs through Bournemouth?
Which part of the bridal way between Trickett's Cross and Bournemouth Airport runs through Bournemouth? glennzilla

12:20pm Wed 30 Jan 13

rayc says...

"£495,000 for a total of 258 new cycle parking spaces at 11 railway stations "

That's approx. £2000 per space. Great business for some organisations, I wonder who will get the bulk of it?
"£495,000 for a total of 258 new cycle parking spaces at 11 railway stations " That's approx. £2000 per space. Great business for some organisations, I wonder who will get the bulk of it? rayc

12:22pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Holes Bay Curve says...

Open up the old right of access (disused bridge) across the river at Old Ham Lane, Canford Bottom (Google Earth it ;) ) - and a very useful cycle way from Poole via Canford Heath to Ferndown could exist.

PS, Cycle paths should be designed by cyclists - not planers who delight in placing meaningless 'Cycleway Ends' signage everywhere etc etc.
Open up the old right of access (disused bridge) across the river at Old Ham Lane, Canford Bottom (Google Earth it ;) ) - and a very useful cycle way from Poole via Canford Heath to Ferndown could exist. PS, Cycle paths should be designed by cyclists - not planers who delight in placing meaningless 'Cycleway Ends' signage everywhere etc etc. Holes Bay Curve

12:23pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Perihelion says...

Excuse me Echo, but all the route between Trickett's Cross and The Airport is outside Bournemouth. And another thing - how many people would cycle to the airport with their suitcases to go on holiday? What an odd choice of route to fund.
Excuse me Echo, but all the route between Trickett's Cross and The Airport is outside Bournemouth. And another thing - how many people would cycle to the airport with their suitcases to go on holiday? What an odd choice of route to fund. Perihelion

12:27pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Gordon Cann says...

Make Friday a traffic free day i,e, no cars with only public emergency services; it would cause some problems to start with but it could be done and slowly,people , especially young people would begin to recapture a world where cycling was safe.

I recall a day in April 1945 cycling with school friends from Blandford down to Bournemouth to go on to the beach or cycling down to Lulworth Cove

No car until the age of 32.old fashioned may be , but healthy!!!
Make Friday a traffic free day i,e, no cars with only public emergency services; it would cause some problems to start with but it could be done and slowly,people , especially young people would begin to recapture a world where cycling was safe. I recall a day in April 1945 cycling with school friends from Blandford down to Bournemouth to go on to the beach or cycling down to Lulworth Cove No car until the age of 32.old fashioned may be , but healthy!!! Gordon Cann

12:28pm Wed 30 Jan 13

HRH of Boscombe says...

mysticalshoelace wrote:
Another waste of money, what we need are road improvements, ones that don't entail adding more traffic lights!
How is trying to get lazy toads out of their motors a waste of money?
[quote][p][bold]mysticalshoelace[/bold] wrote: Another waste of money, what we need are road improvements, ones that don't entail adding more traffic lights![/p][/quote]How is trying to get lazy toads out of their motors a waste of money? HRH of Boscombe

12:31pm Wed 30 Jan 13

beachcomber1 says...

rather droll the accompanying picture is of a group of cyclists on the Prom. pity the poor people trying for a relaxing stroll along it.

clearly cycling and cyclists have the political clout at the moment, so us poor pedestrians will have to continue to suck it up as they further illegally take over the pavements and prom.
rather droll the accompanying picture is of a group of cyclists on the Prom. pity the poor people trying for a relaxing stroll along it. clearly cycling and cyclists have the political clout at the moment, so us poor pedestrians will have to continue to suck it up as they further illegally take over the pavements and prom. beachcomber1

12:32pm Wed 30 Jan 13

beachcomber1 says...

suzigirl wrote:
What a waste of money! What is the point of cycle lanes when most cyclists don't use them - they prefer the pavements! Pedestrians should try walking in the cycle lanes......
lol sad but true
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: What a waste of money! What is the point of cycle lanes when most cyclists don't use them - they prefer the pavements! Pedestrians should try walking in the cycle lanes......[/p][/quote]lol sad but true beachcomber1

12:35pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Hessenford says...

So the government wants to spend 62 million to encourage cycling, only a few months ago the chancellor was complaining that duty from petrol and diesel sales were down by 2 billion, what does he want, more revenue or more cyclists, if it's the latter who will make up the revenue lost on fuel sales.
So the government wants to spend 62 million to encourage cycling, only a few months ago the chancellor was complaining that duty from petrol and diesel sales were down by 2 billion, what does he want, more revenue or more cyclists, if it's the latter who will make up the revenue lost on fuel sales. Hessenford

12:35pm Wed 30 Jan 13

John T says...

Transport minister Norman Baker said: 'We have already seen how schemes can quickly deliver economic and environmental benefits.'
Isn't it ironic that our Government is robustly pursuing its Green Agenda to get people out of cars and onto bikes, just at the time when hundreds of millions of Chinese are ditching their bicycles for motor cars?
Transport minister Norman Baker said: 'We have already seen how schemes can quickly deliver economic and environmental benefits.' Isn't it ironic that our Government is robustly pursuing its Green Agenda to get people out of cars and onto bikes, just at the time when hundreds of millions of Chinese are ditching their bicycles for motor cars? John T

12:42pm Wed 30 Jan 13

steveafcb says...

For thrills and excitement try using the cycle path on Christchurch Road just past Kings Park...as you fly down the hill in the cycle lane it comes to an abrupt halt near the bottom...usually with a car parked at the end!
For thrills and excitement try using the cycle path on Christchurch Road just past Kings Park...as you fly down the hill in the cycle lane it comes to an abrupt halt near the bottom...usually with a car parked at the end! steveafcb

12:46pm Wed 30 Jan 13

InkZ says...

Wouldn't be so bad if they extended it across throop so you could get right in to Bournemouth without having to climb over fences with your bike.

I wonder if it will be a useful cycleway that you can take a roadbike on. If not then you may as well leave it as a bridalway.

I hate Bournemouth cycle lanes. I spend more time trying not to get run over coming out of the lanes to dodge buses and parked cars than feeling safe.
Wouldn't be so bad if they extended it across throop so you could get right in to Bournemouth without having to climb over fences with your bike. I wonder if it will be a useful cycleway that you can take a roadbike on. If not then you may as well leave it as a bridalway. I hate Bournemouth cycle lanes. I spend more time trying not to get run over coming out of the lanes to dodge buses and parked cars than feeling safe. InkZ

1:01pm Wed 30 Jan 13

ekimnoslen says...

It's a lot cheaper than making our highways suitable for both types of traffic and it panders to the cycling Lobby. However if it gets some of them off our footpaths I'm all for it.
It's a lot cheaper than making our highways suitable for both types of traffic and it panders to the cycling Lobby. However if it gets some of them off our footpaths I'm all for it. ekimnoslen

1:08pm Wed 30 Jan 13

suzigirl says...

Arthur Maureen wrote:
suzigirl wrote: What a waste of money! What is the point of cycle lanes when most cyclists don't use them - they prefer the pavements! Pedestrians should try walking in the cycle lanes......
And the award for stupid comment of the day goes to...
Are you an Arthur or a Martha? Don't happen to be a cyclist by any chance. I park my motorbike down at the quay in Poole which is adjacent to a cycle lane. If I am standing by/on the cycle lane and a cyclist approaches the looks and abuse I get is unbelievable - so why is it different when cyclists use the pavements? One rule for one and one rule for another!!
[quote][p][bold]Arthur Maureen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: What a waste of money! What is the point of cycle lanes when most cyclists don't use them - they prefer the pavements! Pedestrians should try walking in the cycle lanes......[/p][/quote]And the award for stupid comment of the day goes to...[/p][/quote]Are you an Arthur or a Martha? Don't happen to be a cyclist by any chance. I park my motorbike down at the quay in Poole which is adjacent to a cycle lane. If I am standing by/on the cycle lane and a cyclist approaches the looks and abuse I get is unbelievable - so why is it different when cyclists use the pavements? One rule for one and one rule for another!! suzigirl

1:15pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Mikeyunibournemouth says...

What moron would risk cycling in this town? The moment you set a bike down, even if it is locked up, I guarantee it will be nicked by one of the staggeringly large population of druggies, alcoholics and general thieves. Stop messing about with details and tackle the real issues!!!
What moron would risk cycling in this town? The moment you set a bike down, even if it is locked up, I guarantee it will be nicked by one of the staggeringly large population of druggies, alcoholics and general thieves. Stop messing about with details and tackle the real issues!!! Mikeyunibournemouth

1:17pm Wed 30 Jan 13

bmthmark says...

suzigirl wrote:
Arthur Maureen wrote:
suzigirl wrote: What a waste of money! What is the point of cycle lanes when most cyclists don't use them - they prefer the pavements! Pedestrians should try walking in the cycle lanes......
And the award for stupid comment of the day goes to...
Are you an Arthur or a Martha? Don't happen to be a cyclist by any chance. I park my motorbike down at the quay in Poole which is adjacent to a cycle lane. If I am standing by/on the cycle lane and a cyclist approaches the looks and abuse I get is unbelievable - so why is it different when cyclists use the pavements? One rule for one and one rule for another!!
If you are standing on the cycle lane what do you expect as you are probably blocking the path. Why don't you move off the cycle lane then you won't get the looks??
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arthur Maureen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: What a waste of money! What is the point of cycle lanes when most cyclists don't use them - they prefer the pavements! Pedestrians should try walking in the cycle lanes......[/p][/quote]And the award for stupid comment of the day goes to...[/p][/quote]Are you an Arthur or a Martha? Don't happen to be a cyclist by any chance. I park my motorbike down at the quay in Poole which is adjacent to a cycle lane. If I am standing by/on the cycle lane and a cyclist approaches the looks and abuse I get is unbelievable - so why is it different when cyclists use the pavements? One rule for one and one rule for another!![/p][/quote]If you are standing on the cycle lane what do you expect as you are probably blocking the path. Why don't you move off the cycle lane then you won't get the looks?? bmthmark

1:19pm Wed 30 Jan 13

UZZY says...

beachcomber1 wrote:
rather droll the accompanying picture is of a group of cyclists on the Prom. pity the poor people trying for a relaxing stroll along it.

clearly cycling and cyclists have the political clout at the moment, so us poor pedestrians will have to continue to suck it up as they further illegally take over the pavements and prom.
Here we go again...give it a rest & live & let live for goodness sake...get a life or a bike !!
[quote][p][bold]beachcomber1[/bold] wrote: rather droll the accompanying picture is of a group of cyclists on the Prom. pity the poor people trying for a relaxing stroll along it. clearly cycling and cyclists have the political clout at the moment, so us poor pedestrians will have to continue to suck it up as they further illegally take over the pavements and prom.[/p][/quote]Here we go again...give it a rest & live & let live for goodness sake...get a life or a bike !! UZZY

1:27pm Wed 30 Jan 13

BIGTONE says...

Should be about 30 grand left after all the hangers on have had their slice.
Should be about 30 grand left after all the hangers on have had their slice. BIGTONE

1:31pm Wed 30 Jan 13

speedy231278 says...

When are they going to get serious about potholes then?
When are they going to get serious about potholes then? speedy231278

1:35pm Wed 30 Jan 13

beachcomber1 says...

UZZY wrote:
beachcomber1 wrote:
rather droll the accompanying picture is of a group of cyclists on the Prom. pity the poor people trying for a relaxing stroll along it.

clearly cycling and cyclists have the political clout at the moment, so us poor pedestrians will have to continue to suck it up as they further illegally take over the pavements and prom.
Here we go again...give it a rest & live & let live for goodness sake...get a life or a bike !!
i don't want a bike. i want to able to walk on the Prom and the pavement without constantly having to look out for lawbreaking cyclists. if you consider that as being unreasonable then i suggest .. actually i better not say that.
[quote][p][bold]UZZY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beachcomber1[/bold] wrote: rather droll the accompanying picture is of a group of cyclists on the Prom. pity the poor people trying for a relaxing stroll along it. clearly cycling and cyclists have the political clout at the moment, so us poor pedestrians will have to continue to suck it up as they further illegally take over the pavements and prom.[/p][/quote]Here we go again...give it a rest & live & let live for goodness sake...get a life or a bike !![/p][/quote]i don't want a bike. i want to able to walk on the Prom and the pavement without constantly having to look out for lawbreaking cyclists. if you consider that as being unreasonable then i suggest .. actually i better not say that. beachcomber1

1:37pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Repo says...

suzigirl wrote:
Arthur Maureen wrote:
suzigirl wrote: What a waste of money! What is the point of cycle lanes when most cyclists don't use them - they prefer the pavements! Pedestrians should try walking in the cycle lanes......
And the award for stupid comment of the day goes to...
Are you an Arthur or a Martha? Don't happen to be a cyclist by any chance. I park my motorbike down at the quay in Poole which is adjacent to a cycle lane. If I am standing by/on the cycle lane and a cyclist approaches the looks and abuse I get is unbelievable - so why is it different when cyclists use the pavements? One rule for one and one rule for another!!
Plenty of cars and motorbikes drive and park on the pavements, and plenty of pedestrians walk on the roads and cycle paths: We are all a bit naughty aren't we ???? We ALL need to show a bit of respect however we choose to travel and I suggest that those of us with the most dangerous modes of transport should show the most consideration and responsibility.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arthur Maureen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: What a waste of money! What is the point of cycle lanes when most cyclists don't use them - they prefer the pavements! Pedestrians should try walking in the cycle lanes......[/p][/quote]And the award for stupid comment of the day goes to...[/p][/quote]Are you an Arthur or a Martha? Don't happen to be a cyclist by any chance. I park my motorbike down at the quay in Poole which is adjacent to a cycle lane. If I am standing by/on the cycle lane and a cyclist approaches the looks and abuse I get is unbelievable - so why is it different when cyclists use the pavements? One rule for one and one rule for another!![/p][/quote]Plenty of cars and motorbikes drive and park on the pavements, and plenty of pedestrians walk on the roads and cycle paths: We are all a bit naughty aren't we ???? We ALL need to show a bit of respect however we choose to travel and I suggest that those of us with the most dangerous modes of transport should show the most consideration and responsibility. Repo

1:43pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Holdenhurst says...

Perihelion wrote:
Excuse me Echo, but all the route between Trickett's Cross and The Airport is outside Bournemouth. And another thing - how many people would cycle to the airport with their suitcases to go on holiday? What an odd choice of route to fund.
I'm guessing the route is aimed at those who work in the large industrial areas at the airport as opposed to those taking flight.
[quote][p][bold]Perihelion[/bold] wrote: Excuse me Echo, but all the route between Trickett's Cross and The Airport is outside Bournemouth. And another thing - how many people would cycle to the airport with their suitcases to go on holiday? What an odd choice of route to fund.[/p][/quote]I'm guessing the route is aimed at those who work in the large industrial areas at the airport as opposed to those taking flight. Holdenhurst

1:51pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Brian Badonde says...

Not sure what all the negativity is here.

Traffic-free routes are what we need more of, not the current practice of painting a white line down the road or turning a pavement into a cycle lane.

We need a network of safe cycle routes - completely separated from traffic - before people will be enticed to leave their cars at home.

It's simply too dangerous to travel by bike on many of Poole and Bournemouth's roads at the moment.
Not sure what all the negativity is here. Traffic-free routes are what we need more of, not the current practice of painting a white line down the road or turning a pavement into a cycle lane. We need a network of safe cycle routes - completely separated from traffic - before people will be enticed to leave their cars at home. It's simply too dangerous to travel by bike on many of Poole and Bournemouth's roads at the moment. Brian Badonde

1:58pm Wed 30 Jan 13

jeebuscripes says...

Just reading the comments on this site makes me sad.

It's not about cycling, it's not about walking or driving. It's about respect for each other.

Sharing space is necessary at times.

Some people can't seem to stand to do so.
Just reading the comments on this site makes me sad. It's not about cycling, it's not about walking or driving. It's about respect for each other. Sharing space is necessary at times. Some people can't seem to stand to do so. jeebuscripes

2:06pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Ayles 10 says...

Isosceles wrote:
It is about time that they had a cycleway from the M3 at Eastleigh through to Exeter to get some of these dang cyclists off the other roads (:o)
Fantastic idea, or make all the MAMIL's take road awareness courses before being allowed (for free) to cause merry hell on our roads with no regard to drivers.
[quote][p][bold]Isosceles[/bold] wrote: It is about time that they had a cycleway from the M3 at Eastleigh through to Exeter to get some of these dang cyclists off the other roads (:o)[/p][/quote]Fantastic idea, or make all the MAMIL's take road awareness courses before being allowed (for free) to cause merry hell on our roads with no regard to drivers. Ayles 10

2:09pm Wed 30 Jan 13

FNS-man says...

A few points:

1. It's not that much

The Treasury said that when reducing fuel duty increases last year that "Taken together, the government's support has been worth £5.5bn and means that pump prices are 10p a litre cheaper than they otherwise would have been".

And the government are crowing about £62m for cycling?

The Dutch spend about £15 per head on cycling per year (so about £900m for the UK population), and they've already got excellent facilities.

2. Who wants to cycle from Trickett's Cross to Bournemouth Airport?

I'd imagine people on a leisure cycle at the weekend. It's not that sort of facility that we need. What we need to do is make it safe for children to cycle around: to school, to see their friends and to go to their various activities.

When this is true then we'll have facilities that are suitable for everyone to cycle.
A few points: 1. It's not that much The Treasury said that when reducing fuel duty increases last year that "Taken together, the government's support has been worth £5.5bn and means that pump prices are 10p a litre cheaper than they otherwise would have been". And the government are crowing about £62m for cycling? The Dutch spend about £15 per head on cycling per year (so about £900m for the UK population), and they've already got excellent facilities. 2. Who wants to cycle from Trickett's Cross to Bournemouth Airport? I'd imagine people on a leisure cycle at the weekend. It's not that sort of facility that we need. What we need to do is make it safe for children to cycle around: to school, to see their friends and to go to their various activities. When this is true then we'll have facilities that are suitable for everyone to cycle. FNS-man

2:12pm Wed 30 Jan 13

FNS-man says...

Ayles 10 wrote:
Isosceles wrote: It is about time that they had a cycleway from the M3 at Eastleigh through to Exeter to get some of these dang cyclists off the other roads (:o)
Fantastic idea, or make all the MAMIL's take road awareness courses before being allowed (for free) to cause merry hell on our roads with no regard to drivers.
Merry hell? Please show me where a motorist has been killed or injured by a cyclist.

And for free? The roads are paid for from council tax, and general taxation. Given I pay a shed-load of tax, I pay a ridiculous amount to use the terrible facilities that are provided for cyclists.
[quote][p][bold]Ayles 10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Isosceles[/bold] wrote: It is about time that they had a cycleway from the M3 at Eastleigh through to Exeter to get some of these dang cyclists off the other roads (:o)[/p][/quote]Fantastic idea, or make all the MAMIL's take road awareness courses before being allowed (for free) to cause merry hell on our roads with no regard to drivers.[/p][/quote]Merry hell? Please show me where a motorist has been killed or injured by a cyclist. And for free? The roads are paid for from council tax, and general taxation. Given I pay a shed-load of tax, I pay a ridiculous amount to use the terrible facilities that are provided for cyclists. FNS-man

2:33pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Jacobsmith95 says...

Good, its about time, the amount of times I've almost been knocked off by drivers not giving enough room.
Good, its about time, the amount of times I've almost been knocked off by drivers not giving enough room. Jacobsmith95

2:35pm Wed 30 Jan 13

ranger_bob says...

beachcomber1 wrote:
UZZY wrote:
beachcomber1 wrote:
rather droll the accompanying picture is of a group of cyclists on the Prom. pity the poor people trying for a relaxing stroll along it.

clearly cycling and cyclists have the political clout at the moment, so us poor pedestrians will have to continue to suck it up as they further illegally take over the pavements and prom.
Here we go again...give it a rest & live & let live for goodness sake...get a life or a bike !!
i don't want a bike. i want to able to walk on the Prom and the pavement without constantly having to look out for lawbreaking cyclists. if you consider that as being unreasonable then i suggest .. actually i better not say that.
Cycled along the Prom this morning. It was windy as anything and pouring with rain so i pretty much had it to myself. I cruised down the prom without pesky dog walkers or pedestrians - wonderful!
[quote][p][bold]beachcomber1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]UZZY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beachcomber1[/bold] wrote: rather droll the accompanying picture is of a group of cyclists on the Prom. pity the poor people trying for a relaxing stroll along it. clearly cycling and cyclists have the political clout at the moment, so us poor pedestrians will have to continue to suck it up as they further illegally take over the pavements and prom.[/p][/quote]Here we go again...give it a rest & live & let live for goodness sake...get a life or a bike !![/p][/quote]i don't want a bike. i want to able to walk on the Prom and the pavement without constantly having to look out for lawbreaking cyclists. if you consider that as being unreasonable then i suggest .. actually i better not say that.[/p][/quote]Cycled along the Prom this morning. It was windy as anything and pouring with rain so i pretty much had it to myself. I cruised down the prom without pesky dog walkers or pedestrians - wonderful! ranger_bob

2:36pm Wed 30 Jan 13

oneshortleg says...

I hope this is made DDA compliant and suitable for wheelchairs!
I hope this is made DDA compliant and suitable for wheelchairs! oneshortleg

2:39pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Professor Zaroff says...

After reading the comments on this story I am confused. Should I take a bath with an electric fire myself, encourage other commentators to do so, or both?
After reading the comments on this story I am confused. Should I take a bath with an electric fire myself, encourage other commentators to do so, or both? Professor Zaroff

2:52pm Wed 30 Jan 13

suzigirl says...

bmthmark wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
Arthur Maureen wrote:
suzigirl wrote: What a waste of money! What is the point of cycle lanes when most cyclists don't use them - they prefer the pavements! Pedestrians should try walking in the cycle lanes......
And the award for stupid comment of the day goes to...
Are you an Arthur or a Martha? Don't happen to be a cyclist by any chance. I park my motorbike down at the quay in Poole which is adjacent to a cycle lane. If I am standing by/on the cycle lane and a cyclist approaches the looks and abuse I get is unbelievable - so why is it different when cyclists use the pavements? One rule for one and one rule for another!!
If you are standing on the cycle lane what do you expect as you are probably blocking the path. Why don't you move off the cycle lane then you won't get the looks??
So it is okay for cyclists to use the pavements but pedestrians cannot stand in a cycle lane?
[quote][p][bold]bmthmark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arthur Maureen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: What a waste of money! What is the point of cycle lanes when most cyclists don't use them - they prefer the pavements! Pedestrians should try walking in the cycle lanes......[/p][/quote]And the award for stupid comment of the day goes to...[/p][/quote]Are you an Arthur or a Martha? Don't happen to be a cyclist by any chance. I park my motorbike down at the quay in Poole which is adjacent to a cycle lane. If I am standing by/on the cycle lane and a cyclist approaches the looks and abuse I get is unbelievable - so why is it different when cyclists use the pavements? One rule for one and one rule for another!![/p][/quote]If you are standing on the cycle lane what do you expect as you are probably blocking the path. Why don't you move off the cycle lane then you won't get the looks??[/p][/quote]So it is okay for cyclists to use the pavements but pedestrians cannot stand in a cycle lane? suzigirl

3:39pm Wed 30 Jan 13

cmci2012 says...

I have to agree with jeebuscripes, it is about respect for others and its a sad world we live in when its all about dividing people... cyclists v motorists yet again. I admit that I cycle on some of the pavements, personally I find it far too scary and dangerous to ride on the roads. I'll cycle on quiet back street roads but some of these main roads are just lethal. But when I do cycle on pavements I do it slowly and sensibly and have respect for pedestrians, I always slow down for them and I simply wont cycle on pavements that are busy. It's about common sense and respect. There are far more serious issues going on in the world.
I have to agree with jeebuscripes, it is about respect for others and its a sad world we live in when its all about dividing people... cyclists v motorists yet again. I admit that I cycle on some of the pavements, personally I find it far too scary and dangerous to ride on the roads. I'll cycle on quiet back street roads but some of these main roads are just lethal. But when I do cycle on pavements I do it slowly and sensibly and have respect for pedestrians, I always slow down for them and I simply wont cycle on pavements that are busy. It's about common sense and respect. There are far more serious issues going on in the world. cmci2012

3:46pm Wed 30 Jan 13

bmthmark says...

suzigirl wrote:
bmthmark wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
Arthur Maureen wrote:
suzigirl wrote: What a waste of money! What is the point of cycle lanes when most cyclists don't use them - they prefer the pavements! Pedestrians should try walking in the cycle lanes......
And the award for stupid comment of the day goes to...
Are you an Arthur or a Martha? Don't happen to be a cyclist by any chance. I park my motorbike down at the quay in Poole which is adjacent to a cycle lane. If I am standing by/on the cycle lane and a cyclist approaches the looks and abuse I get is unbelievable - so why is it different when cyclists use the pavements? One rule for one and one rule for another!!
If you are standing on the cycle lane what do you expect as you are probably blocking the path. Why don't you move off the cycle lane then you won't get the looks??
So it is okay for cyclists to use the pavements but pedestrians cannot stand in a cycle lane?
I haven't said that at all. All I have said is that the reason you are getting funny looks is because you are standing in the way of the bikes attempting to get pass. Try moving your butt out of the way then they will be happy and hopefully you will be happy as they won't give you strange looks.
It is quite simple
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bmthmark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arthur Maureen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: What a waste of money! What is the point of cycle lanes when most cyclists don't use them - they prefer the pavements! Pedestrians should try walking in the cycle lanes......[/p][/quote]And the award for stupid comment of the day goes to...[/p][/quote]Are you an Arthur or a Martha? Don't happen to be a cyclist by any chance. I park my motorbike down at the quay in Poole which is adjacent to a cycle lane. If I am standing by/on the cycle lane and a cyclist approaches the looks and abuse I get is unbelievable - so why is it different when cyclists use the pavements? One rule for one and one rule for another!![/p][/quote]If you are standing on the cycle lane what do you expect as you are probably blocking the path. Why don't you move off the cycle lane then you won't get the looks??[/p][/quote]So it is okay for cyclists to use the pavements but pedestrians cannot stand in a cycle lane?[/p][/quote]I haven't said that at all. All I have said is that the reason you are getting funny looks is because you are standing in the way of the bikes attempting to get pass. Try moving your butt out of the way then they will be happy and hopefully you will be happy as they won't give you strange looks. It is quite simple bmthmark

3:50pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Repo says...

suzigirl wrote:
bmthmark wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
Arthur Maureen wrote:
suzigirl wrote: What a waste of money! What is the point of cycle lanes when most cyclists don't use them - they prefer the pavements! Pedestrians should try walking in the cycle lanes......
And the award for stupid comment of the day goes to...
Are you an Arthur or a Martha? Don't happen to be a cyclist by any chance. I park my motorbike down at the quay in Poole which is adjacent to a cycle lane. If I am standing by/on the cycle lane and a cyclist approaches the looks and abuse I get is unbelievable - so why is it different when cyclists use the pavements? One rule for one and one rule for another!!
If you are standing on the cycle lane what do you expect as you are probably blocking the path. Why don't you move off the cycle lane then you won't get the looks??
So it is okay for cyclists to use the pavements but pedestrians cannot stand in a cycle lane?
are you for real ???
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bmthmark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arthur Maureen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: What a waste of money! What is the point of cycle lanes when most cyclists don't use them - they prefer the pavements! Pedestrians should try walking in the cycle lanes......[/p][/quote]And the award for stupid comment of the day goes to...[/p][/quote]Are you an Arthur or a Martha? Don't happen to be a cyclist by any chance. I park my motorbike down at the quay in Poole which is adjacent to a cycle lane. If I am standing by/on the cycle lane and a cyclist approaches the looks and abuse I get is unbelievable - so why is it different when cyclists use the pavements? One rule for one and one rule for another!![/p][/quote]If you are standing on the cycle lane what do you expect as you are probably blocking the path. Why don't you move off the cycle lane then you won't get the looks??[/p][/quote]So it is okay for cyclists to use the pavements but pedestrians cannot stand in a cycle lane?[/p][/quote]are you for real ??? Repo

3:50pm Wed 30 Jan 13

mmmmmmm says...

It's vehicular apartheid , the money would be better spent telling drivers to be considerate.
It's vehicular apartheid , the money would be better spent telling drivers to be considerate. mmmmmmm

4:22pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Phixer says...

HRH of Boscombe wrote:
mysticalshoelace wrote:
Another waste of money, what we need are road improvements, ones that don't entail adding more traffic lights!
How is trying to get lazy toads out of their motors a waste of money?
Because it won't work. Too much cash will be thrown away at consultants and useless signage.
[quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mysticalshoelace[/bold] wrote: Another waste of money, what we need are road improvements, ones that don't entail adding more traffic lights![/p][/quote]How is trying to get lazy toads out of their motors a waste of money?[/p][/quote]Because it won't work. Too much cash will be thrown away at consultants and useless signage. Phixer

4:29pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Phixer says...

John T wrote:
Transport minister Norman Baker said: 'We have already seen how schemes can quickly deliver economic and environmental benefits.'
Isn't it ironic that our Government is robustly pursuing its Green Agenda to get people out of cars and onto bikes, just at the time when hundreds of millions of Chinese are ditching their bicycles for motor cars?
If you had ever travelled further east than Cyprus, you would have seen that the Chineses and other Asians have actually ditched their bicycles for mopeds, not cars.
[quote][p][bold]John T[/bold] wrote: Transport minister Norman Baker said: 'We have already seen how schemes can quickly deliver economic and environmental benefits.' Isn't it ironic that our Government is robustly pursuing its Green Agenda to get people out of cars and onto bikes, just at the time when hundreds of millions of Chinese are ditching their bicycles for motor cars?[/p][/quote]If you had ever travelled further east than Cyprus, you would have seen that the Chineses and other Asians have actually ditched their bicycles for mopeds, not cars. Phixer

4:33pm Wed 30 Jan 13

nothingtofear says...

FNS-man wrote:
Ayles 10 wrote:
Isosceles wrote: It is about time that they had a cycleway from the M3 at Eastleigh through to Exeter to get some of these dang cyclists off the other roads (:o)
Fantastic idea, or make all the MAMIL's take road awareness courses before being allowed (for free) to cause merry hell on our roads with no regard to drivers.
Merry hell? Please show me where a motorist has been killed or injured by a cyclist.

And for free? The roads are paid for from council tax, and general taxation. Given I pay a shed-load of tax, I pay a ridiculous amount to use the terrible facilities that are provided for cyclists.
And what on earth is a MAMIL?
[quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ayles 10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Isosceles[/bold] wrote: It is about time that they had a cycleway from the M3 at Eastleigh through to Exeter to get some of these dang cyclists off the other roads (:o)[/p][/quote]Fantastic idea, or make all the MAMIL's take road awareness courses before being allowed (for free) to cause merry hell on our roads with no regard to drivers.[/p][/quote]Merry hell? Please show me where a motorist has been killed or injured by a cyclist. And for free? The roads are paid for from council tax, and general taxation. Given I pay a shed-load of tax, I pay a ridiculous amount to use the terrible facilities that are provided for cyclists.[/p][/quote]And what on earth is a MAMIL? nothingtofear

4:45pm Wed 30 Jan 13

suzigirl says...

cmci2012 wrote:
I have to agree with jeebuscripes, it is about respect for others and its a sad world we live in when its all about dividing people... cyclists v motorists yet again. I admit that I cycle on some of the pavements, personally I find it far too scary and dangerous to ride on the roads. I'll cycle on quiet back street roads but some of these main roads are just lethal. But when I do cycle on pavements I do it slowly and sensibly and have respect for pedestrians, I always slow down for them and I simply wont cycle on pavements that are busy. It's about common sense and respect. There are far more serious issues going on in the world.
That is really good of you to have respect for pedestrians cycling on the pavement when it is illegal. So basically you are admitting to breaking the law then. Do you also go through red traffic lights?
[quote][p][bold]cmci2012[/bold] wrote: I have to agree with jeebuscripes, it is about respect for others and its a sad world we live in when its all about dividing people... cyclists v motorists yet again. I admit that I cycle on some of the pavements, personally I find it far too scary and dangerous to ride on the roads. I'll cycle on quiet back street roads but some of these main roads are just lethal. But when I do cycle on pavements I do it slowly and sensibly and have respect for pedestrians, I always slow down for them and I simply wont cycle on pavements that are busy. It's about common sense and respect. There are far more serious issues going on in the world.[/p][/quote]That is really good of you to have respect for pedestrians cycling on the pavement when it is illegal. So basically you are admitting to breaking the law then. Do you also go through red traffic lights? suzigirl

4:53pm Wed 30 Jan 13

suzigirl says...

bmthmark wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
bmthmark wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
Arthur Maureen wrote:
suzigirl wrote: What a waste of money! What is the point of cycle lanes when most cyclists don't use them - they prefer the pavements! Pedestrians should try walking in the cycle lanes......
And the award for stupid comment of the day goes to...
Are you an Arthur or a Martha? Don't happen to be a cyclist by any chance. I park my motorbike down at the quay in Poole which is adjacent to a cycle lane. If I am standing by/on the cycle lane and a cyclist approaches the looks and abuse I get is unbelievable - so why is it different when cyclists use the pavements? One rule for one and one rule for another!!
If you are standing on the cycle lane what do you expect as you are probably blocking the path. Why don't you move off the cycle lane then you won't get the looks??
So it is okay for cyclists to use the pavements but pedestrians cannot stand in a cycle lane?
I haven't said that at all. All I have said is that the reason you are getting funny looks is because you are standing in the way of the bikes attempting to get pass. Try moving your butt out of the way then they will be happy and hopefully you will be happy as they won't give you strange looks. It is quite simple
The point I am trying to make is why do cyclists think it is okay to ride on the pavements which is illegal, irritating pedestrians and in some cases causing injuries to pedestrians who get in their way but they get annoyed if a pedestrian is standing in a cycle lane?

I also do not like your reference to "my butt" which looks very good in leathers thank you very much!
[quote][p][bold]bmthmark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bmthmark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arthur Maureen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: What a waste of money! What is the point of cycle lanes when most cyclists don't use them - they prefer the pavements! Pedestrians should try walking in the cycle lanes......[/p][/quote]And the award for stupid comment of the day goes to...[/p][/quote]Are you an Arthur or a Martha? Don't happen to be a cyclist by any chance. I park my motorbike down at the quay in Poole which is adjacent to a cycle lane. If I am standing by/on the cycle lane and a cyclist approaches the looks and abuse I get is unbelievable - so why is it different when cyclists use the pavements? One rule for one and one rule for another!![/p][/quote]If you are standing on the cycle lane what do you expect as you are probably blocking the path. Why don't you move off the cycle lane then you won't get the looks??[/p][/quote]So it is okay for cyclists to use the pavements but pedestrians cannot stand in a cycle lane?[/p][/quote]I haven't said that at all. All I have said is that the reason you are getting funny looks is because you are standing in the way of the bikes attempting to get pass. Try moving your butt out of the way then they will be happy and hopefully you will be happy as they won't give you strange looks. It is quite simple[/p][/quote]The point I am trying to make is why do cyclists think it is okay to ride on the pavements which is illegal, irritating pedestrians and in some cases causing injuries to pedestrians who get in their way but they get annoyed if a pedestrian is standing in a cycle lane? I also do not like your reference to "my butt" which looks very good in leathers thank you very much! suzigirl

4:53pm Wed 30 Jan 13

drJones says...

why do you lot continue to moan and complain, it makes no difference what you say. As someone else mentioned much bigger issues in this world to be worried about. Wake up and do something productive, just a thread of people moaning and complaining.
why do you lot continue to moan and complain, it makes no difference what you say. As someone else mentioned much bigger issues in this world to be worried about. Wake up and do something productive, just a thread of people moaning and complaining. drJones

5:05pm Wed 30 Jan 13

bobsworthforever says...

FNS-man wrote:
Ayles 10 wrote:
Isosceles wrote: It is about time that they had a cycleway from the M3 at Eastleigh through to Exeter to get some of these dang cyclists off the other roads (:o)
Fantastic idea, or make all the MAMIL's take road awareness courses before being allowed (for free) to cause merry hell on our roads with no regard to drivers.
Merry hell? Please show me where a motorist has been killed or injured by a cyclist.

And for free? The roads are paid for from council tax, and general taxation. Given I pay a shed-load of tax, I pay a ridiculous amount to use the terrible facilities that are provided for cyclists.
absolute garbage i pay all those taxes and pay fuel duty road tax insurance costs on top thats why motorists should be considered before cyclists there are loads of better things to finance than this daft scheme
[quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ayles 10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Isosceles[/bold] wrote: It is about time that they had a cycleway from the M3 at Eastleigh through to Exeter to get some of these dang cyclists off the other roads (:o)[/p][/quote]Fantastic idea, or make all the MAMIL's take road awareness courses before being allowed (for free) to cause merry hell on our roads with no regard to drivers.[/p][/quote]Merry hell? Please show me where a motorist has been killed or injured by a cyclist. And for free? The roads are paid for from council tax, and general taxation. Given I pay a shed-load of tax, I pay a ridiculous amount to use the terrible facilities that are provided for cyclists.[/p][/quote]absolute garbage i pay all those taxes and pay fuel duty road tax insurance costs on top thats why motorists should be considered before cyclists there are loads of better things to finance than this daft scheme bobsworthforever

5:07pm Wed 30 Jan 13

The-Bleeding-Obvious says...

suzigirl wrote:
bmthmark wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
bmthmark wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
Arthur Maureen wrote:
suzigirl wrote: What a waste of money! What is the point of cycle lanes when most cyclists don't use them - they prefer the pavements! Pedestrians should try walking in the cycle lanes......
And the award for stupid comment of the day goes to...
Are you an Arthur or a Martha? Don't happen to be a cyclist by any chance. I park my motorbike down at the quay in Poole which is adjacent to a cycle lane. If I am standing by/on the cycle lane and a cyclist approaches the looks and abuse I get is unbelievable - so why is it different when cyclists use the pavements? One rule for one and one rule for another!!
If you are standing on the cycle lane what do you expect as you are probably blocking the path. Why don't you move off the cycle lane then you won't get the looks??
So it is okay for cyclists to use the pavements but pedestrians cannot stand in a cycle lane?
I haven't said that at all. All I have said is that the reason you are getting funny looks is because you are standing in the way of the bikes attempting to get pass. Try moving your butt out of the way then they will be happy and hopefully you will be happy as they won't give you strange looks. It is quite simple
The point I am trying to make is why do cyclists think it is okay to ride on the pavements which is illegal, irritating pedestrians and in some cases causing injuries to pedestrians who get in their way but they get annoyed if a pedestrian is standing in a cycle lane? I also do not like your reference to "my butt" which looks very good in leathers thank you very much!
Most pavements are deserted most of the time, well over a hundred cyclists are killed on the roads every year but less than one pedestrian is killed per year by cyclists on pavements. Thus cyclists are at far greater risk from cars than pedestrians are from cyclists so making all pavements shared routes would save lives.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bmthmark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bmthmark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arthur Maureen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: What a waste of money! What is the point of cycle lanes when most cyclists don't use them - they prefer the pavements! Pedestrians should try walking in the cycle lanes......[/p][/quote]And the award for stupid comment of the day goes to...[/p][/quote]Are you an Arthur or a Martha? Don't happen to be a cyclist by any chance. I park my motorbike down at the quay in Poole which is adjacent to a cycle lane. If I am standing by/on the cycle lane and a cyclist approaches the looks and abuse I get is unbelievable - so why is it different when cyclists use the pavements? One rule for one and one rule for another!![/p][/quote]If you are standing on the cycle lane what do you expect as you are probably blocking the path. Why don't you move off the cycle lane then you won't get the looks??[/p][/quote]So it is okay for cyclists to use the pavements but pedestrians cannot stand in a cycle lane?[/p][/quote]I haven't said that at all. All I have said is that the reason you are getting funny looks is because you are standing in the way of the bikes attempting to get pass. Try moving your butt out of the way then they will be happy and hopefully you will be happy as they won't give you strange looks. It is quite simple[/p][/quote]The point I am trying to make is why do cyclists think it is okay to ride on the pavements which is illegal, irritating pedestrians and in some cases causing injuries to pedestrians who get in their way but they get annoyed if a pedestrian is standing in a cycle lane? I also do not like your reference to "my butt" which looks very good in leathers thank you very much![/p][/quote]Most pavements are deserted most of the time, well over a hundred cyclists are killed on the roads every year but less than one pedestrian is killed per year by cyclists on pavements. Thus cyclists are at far greater risk from cars than pedestrians are from cyclists so making all pavements shared routes would save lives. The-Bleeding-Obvious

5:09pm Wed 30 Jan 13

geoffro says...

thats it government hype up about getting on yer bike then tax the bloody lot and spend the money on filling up the holes in the road for us poor car drivers lol
thats it government hype up about getting on yer bike then tax the bloody lot and spend the money on filling up the holes in the road for us poor car drivers lol geoffro

5:21pm Wed 30 Jan 13

rayc says...

drJones wrote:
why do you lot continue to moan and complain, it makes no difference what you say. As someone else mentioned much bigger issues in this world to be worried about. Wake up and do something productive, just a thread of people moaning and complaining.
"why do you lot continue to moan and complain, it makes no difference what you say."

Exactly. The views of the average person will make not one bit of difference to what local and central governments do. Talk of democracy is just that - talk.
[quote][p][bold]drJones[/bold] wrote: why do you lot continue to moan and complain, it makes no difference what you say. As someone else mentioned much bigger issues in this world to be worried about. Wake up and do something productive, just a thread of people moaning and complaining.[/p][/quote]"why do you lot continue to moan and complain, it makes no difference what you say." Exactly. The views of the average person will make not one bit of difference to what local and central governments do. Talk of democracy is just that - talk. rayc

5:27pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Chiqqy says...

I have to cycle everywhere. I have been a driver too. It makes me sad that people have such a chip on their shoulder about cyclists. There are good and bad cyclists just as there are good and bad drivers.

Everyone should have a bit more respect for each other and look out for each other.

And that's the worst thing....people who don't look, both drivers and cyclists.

As for the cycle lane to the airport idea, loads of people work in and around the airport and it would encourage more people maybe to cycle to work if they only live a few miles away.

Personally I'd love a cycle lane from Christchurch to Ringwood. The Avon Causeway etc is too dangerous for cyclists and it would be nice to get to the New Forest without getting a train in between.
I have to cycle everywhere. I have been a driver too. It makes me sad that people have such a chip on their shoulder about cyclists. There are good and bad cyclists just as there are good and bad drivers. Everyone should have a bit more respect for each other and look out for each other. And that's the worst thing....people who don't look, both drivers and cyclists. As for the cycle lane to the airport idea, loads of people work in and around the airport and it would encourage more people maybe to cycle to work if they only live a few miles away. Personally I'd love a cycle lane from Christchurch to Ringwood. The Avon Causeway etc is too dangerous for cyclists and it would be nice to get to the New Forest without getting a train in between. Chiqqy

5:52pm Wed 30 Jan 13

mmmmmmm says...

I ride tha Avon Causeway sometimes,it's great ,with good smooth tarmac.
I ride tha Avon Causeway sometimes,it's great ,with good smooth tarmac. mmmmmmm

6:27pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Ayles 10 says...

nothingtofear wrote:
FNS-man wrote:
Ayles 10 wrote:
Isosceles wrote: It is about time that they had a cycleway from the M3 at Eastleigh through to Exeter to get some of these dang cyclists off the other roads (:o)
Fantastic idea, or make all the MAMIL's take road awareness courses before being allowed (for free) to cause merry hell on our roads with no regard to drivers.
Merry hell? Please show me where a motorist has been killed or injured by a cyclist.

And for free? The roads are paid for from council tax, and general taxation. Given I pay a shed-load of tax, I pay a ridiculous amount to use the terrible facilities that are provided for cyclists.
And what on earth is a MAMIL?
A MAMIL is a middle aged man in Lycra
[quote][p][bold]nothingtofear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ayles 10[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Isosceles[/bold] wrote: It is about time that they had a cycleway from the M3 at Eastleigh through to Exeter to get some of these dang cyclists off the other roads (:o)[/p][/quote]Fantastic idea, or make all the MAMIL's take road awareness courses before being allowed (for free) to cause merry hell on our roads with no regard to drivers.[/p][/quote]Merry hell? Please show me where a motorist has been killed or injured by a cyclist. And for free? The roads are paid for from council tax, and general taxation. Given I pay a shed-load of tax, I pay a ridiculous amount to use the terrible facilities that are provided for cyclists.[/p][/quote]And what on earth is a MAMIL?[/p][/quote]A MAMIL is a middle aged man in Lycra Ayles 10

7:18pm Wed 30 Jan 13

cmci2012 says...

suzigirl wrote:
cmci2012 wrote:
I have to agree with jeebuscripes, it is about respect for others and its a sad world we live in when its all about dividing people... cyclists v motorists yet again. I admit that I cycle on some of the pavements, personally I find it far too scary and dangerous to ride on the roads. I'll cycle on quiet back street roads but some of these main roads are just lethal. But when I do cycle on pavements I do it slowly and sensibly and have respect for pedestrians, I always slow down for them and I simply wont cycle on pavements that are busy. It's about common sense and respect. There are far more serious issues going on in the world.
That is really good of you to have respect for pedestrians cycling on the pavement when it is illegal. So basically you are admitting to breaking the law then. Do you also go through red traffic lights?
Bit hard to go through red lights when riding on a pavement!!
Basically I treasure my life so I feel safer on a pavement, every week we hear about a cyclist injured or killed on our roads, I dont recall many reports of injured cyclists on pavements or pedestrians injured by cyclists on pavements. My neices and nephews also come with us out on their bikes to the local park, they are 5 and 6, shall they go on the road too? As I said its using common sense and giving respect for others and having awareness of whats around you. Funny thing is a few weeks ago I was riding on the road when a couple suddenly decided to cross the road, didn't bother looking just kept chatting away and didn't even see me. I'm assuming as they couldnt hear me (or any other traffic) they thought it was ok to cross. Luckily I managed to avoid them. It seems us cyclists can do nothing right. And yes I do drive also.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cmci2012[/bold] wrote: I have to agree with jeebuscripes, it is about respect for others and its a sad world we live in when its all about dividing people... cyclists v motorists yet again. I admit that I cycle on some of the pavements, personally I find it far too scary and dangerous to ride on the roads. I'll cycle on quiet back street roads but some of these main roads are just lethal. But when I do cycle on pavements I do it slowly and sensibly and have respect for pedestrians, I always slow down for them and I simply wont cycle on pavements that are busy. It's about common sense and respect. There are far more serious issues going on in the world.[/p][/quote]That is really good of you to have respect for pedestrians cycling on the pavement when it is illegal. So basically you are admitting to breaking the law then. Do you also go through red traffic lights?[/p][/quote]Bit hard to go through red lights when riding on a pavement!! Basically I treasure my life so I feel safer on a pavement, every week we hear about a cyclist injured or killed on our roads, I dont recall many reports of injured cyclists on pavements or pedestrians injured by cyclists on pavements. My neices and nephews also come with us out on their bikes to the local park, they are 5 and 6, shall they go on the road too? As I said its using common sense and giving respect for others and having awareness of whats around you. Funny thing is a few weeks ago I was riding on the road when a couple suddenly decided to cross the road, didn't bother looking just kept chatting away and didn't even see me. I'm assuming as they couldnt hear me (or any other traffic) they thought it was ok to cross. Luckily I managed to avoid them. It seems us cyclists can do nothing right. And yes I do drive also. cmci2012

9:19pm Wed 30 Jan 13

The Liberal says...

rayc wrote:
"£495,000 for a total of 258 new cycle parking spaces at 11 railway stations "

That's approx. £2000 per space. Great business for some organisations, I wonder who will get the bulk of it?
I noticed that too. It does seem an awful lot. Apparently, the spaces are in 'new secure cycle compounds'.
[quote][p][bold]rayc[/bold] wrote: "£495,000 for a total of 258 new cycle parking spaces at 11 railway stations " That's approx. £2000 per space. Great business for some organisations, I wonder who will get the bulk of it?[/p][/quote]I noticed that too. It does seem an awful lot. Apparently, the spaces are in 'new secure cycle compounds'. The Liberal

9:22pm Wed 30 Jan 13

The Liberal says...

What I can't understand is why some people are so angry towards cyclists in general (not just the minority who ride recklessly etc). It's bigotry really.
What I can't understand is why some people are so angry towards cyclists in general (not just the minority who ride recklessly etc). It's bigotry really. The Liberal

9:34pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

beachcomber1 wrote:
rather droll the accompanying picture is of a group of cyclists on the Prom. pity the poor people trying for a relaxing stroll along it.

clearly cycling and cyclists have the political clout at the moment, so us poor pedestrians will have to continue to suck it up as they further illegally take over the pavements and prom.
Er, check your facts, not illegal to ride on the pavement.....
[quote][p][bold]beachcomber1[/bold] wrote: rather droll the accompanying picture is of a group of cyclists on the Prom. pity the poor people trying for a relaxing stroll along it. clearly cycling and cyclists have the political clout at the moment, so us poor pedestrians will have to continue to suck it up as they further illegally take over the pavements and prom.[/p][/quote]Er, check your facts, not illegal to ride on the pavement..... Letcommonsenseprevail

9:37pm Wed 30 Jan 13

bournenbred says...

So when we've all got on our bikes !

Where will all the revenue from fuel duty come from ?
So when we've all got on our bikes ! Where will all the revenue from fuel duty come from ? bournenbred

9:37pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

manyogie wrote:
HRH of Boscombe wrote:
mysticalshoelace wrote:
Another waste of money, what we need are road improvements, ones that don't entail adding more traffic lights!
How is trying to get lazy toads out of their motors a waste of money?
because, without the lazy toads money, you would'nt have roads, let alone cycle paths
The motorists support the roads, cyclists don't, argue, deny, rant and rave,but, you don't pay a penny whilst on the roads.
Think again. I pay road tax for my car, but choose to leave it at home and ride my bike. My bike wears out the road less than your car, so arguably I pay more tax than a car driver ....... Food for thought?
[quote][p][bold]manyogie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mysticalshoelace[/bold] wrote: Another waste of money, what we need are road improvements, ones that don't entail adding more traffic lights![/p][/quote]How is trying to get lazy toads out of their motors a waste of money?[/p][/quote]because, without the lazy toads money, you would'nt have roads, let alone cycle paths The motorists support the roads, cyclists don't, argue, deny, rant and rave,but, you don't pay a penny whilst on the roads.[/p][/quote]Think again. I pay road tax for my car, but choose to leave it at home and ride my bike. My bike wears out the road less than your car, so arguably I pay more tax than a car driver ....... Food for thought? Letcommonsenseprevail

9:43pm Wed 30 Jan 13

bournenbred says...

To all the know it all CYCLISTS !!

PLEAE READ and ABIDE !!!

https://www.gov.uk/r
ules-for-cyclists-59
-to-82/overview-59-t
o-71
To all the know it all CYCLISTS !! PLEAE READ and ABIDE !!! https://www.gov.uk/r ules-for-cyclists-59 -to-82/overview-59-t o-71 bournenbred

10:22pm Wed 30 Jan 13

sollie says...

What a waste of money. There is already an off road cycle track from St Leonard's to Mathams Lane.
When are we going to get a cycle track along Ham Lane. When a cyclist is killed or injured bay vehicle?
What a waste of money. There is already an off road cycle track from St Leonard's to Mathams Lane. When are we going to get a cycle track along Ham Lane. When a cyclist is killed or injured bay vehicle? sollie

10:34pm Wed 30 Jan 13

itsallaboutthebike says...

@ manyogie

As mentioned above, roads are paid for out of general taxation, so we would have roads whether you decided to leave your car at home or not.
@ manyogie As mentioned above, roads are paid for out of general taxation, so we would have roads whether you decided to leave your car at home or not. itsallaboutthebike

10:35pm Wed 30 Jan 13

BBC Escapee says...

suzigirl wrote:
What a waste of money! What is the point of cycle lanes when most cyclists don't use them - they prefer the pavements! Pedestrians should try walking in the cycle lanes......
.............a lot of them also prefer to use
the roads even when there is a cycle
path provided!

Like along the Christchurch Bypass where I regularly see cyclists that would prefer to cycle along this fast dual carriageway rather than use the purpose built cycle path.(Even on a dark wet night where sections of it are unlit)
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: What a waste of money! What is the point of cycle lanes when most cyclists don't use them - they prefer the pavements! Pedestrians should try walking in the cycle lanes......[/p][/quote].............a lot of them also prefer to use the roads even when there is a cycle path provided! Like along the Christchurch Bypass where I regularly see cyclists that would prefer to cycle along this fast dual carriageway rather than use the purpose built cycle path.(Even on a dark wet night where sections of it are unlit) BBC Escapee

7:52am Thu 31 Jan 13

MandinVerwood says...

Oh how I have missed a good rant at those awful cyclists.

I see the usual protagonists are out in force under new pseudonyms (Hi Heather! are you a Quatro fan too?).

The money is being provided and at least our councils are going to try and do something with it. Hopefully it will be much better planned than the existing cycle paths that seem to be planned from behind a desk with no thought of the implications.

If road planners were to make a new road and then make it strewn with rubbish, big holes and drain covers to damage your wheels, and junctions where you have to stop and start every 20 metres to cross other roads, then I'm not sure many users would want to use it. But that is exactly what is expected of cyclists.

The traffic free cycle way seems a very good idea, and other ones in the country like the Bristol-Bath cycleway are very very popular.
Oh how I have missed a good rant at those awful cyclists. I see the usual protagonists are out in force under new pseudonyms (Hi Heather! are you a Quatro fan too?). The money is being provided and at least our councils are going to try and do something with it. Hopefully it will be much better planned than the existing cycle paths that seem to be planned from behind a desk with no thought of the implications. If road planners were to make a new road and then make it strewn with rubbish, big holes and drain covers to damage your wheels, and junctions where you have to stop and start every 20 metres to cross other roads, then I'm not sure many users would want to use it. But that is exactly what is expected of cyclists. The traffic free cycle way seems a very good idea, and other ones in the country like the Bristol-Bath cycleway are very very popular. MandinVerwood

9:15am Thu 31 Jan 13

suzigirl says...

cmci2012 wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
cmci2012 wrote: I have to agree with jeebuscripes, it is about respect for others and its a sad world we live in when its all about dividing people... cyclists v motorists yet again. I admit that I cycle on some of the pavements, personally I find it far too scary and dangerous to ride on the roads. I'll cycle on quiet back street roads but some of these main roads are just lethal. But when I do cycle on pavements I do it slowly and sensibly and have respect for pedestrians, I always slow down for them and I simply wont cycle on pavements that are busy. It's about common sense and respect. There are far more serious issues going on in the world.
That is really good of you to have respect for pedestrians cycling on the pavement when it is illegal. So basically you are admitting to breaking the law then. Do you also go through red traffic lights?
Bit hard to go through red lights when riding on a pavement!! Basically I treasure my life so I feel safer on a pavement, every week we hear about a cyclist injured or killed on our roads, I dont recall many reports of injured cyclists on pavements or pedestrians injured by cyclists on pavements. My neices and nephews also come with us out on their bikes to the local park, they are 5 and 6, shall they go on the road too? As I said its using common sense and giving respect for others and having awareness of whats around you. Funny thing is a few weeks ago I was riding on the road when a couple suddenly decided to cross the road, didn't bother looking just kept chatting away and didn't even see me. I'm assuming as they couldnt hear me (or any other traffic) they thought it was ok to cross. Luckily I managed to avoid them. It seems us cyclists can do nothing right. And yes I do drive also.
1. Does a bicycle make a lot of noise? How would they hear you? When walking my dog at Whitecliff or Dorset Way (on the pavement) the cyclists come whizzing past me from behind which can be alarming. One cyclist actually hit my dog and he went over his handlebars. Luckily he was okay but it could have been quite nasty. He was just going too fast!
2. It is also unbelievable that you are teaching your neices and nephews to break the law at such a young age.
3. I am not against all cyclists just rogue ones - there are a lot of useless car drivers as well!
[quote][p][bold]cmci2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cmci2012[/bold] wrote: I have to agree with jeebuscripes, it is about respect for others and its a sad world we live in when its all about dividing people... cyclists v motorists yet again. I admit that I cycle on some of the pavements, personally I find it far too scary and dangerous to ride on the roads. I'll cycle on quiet back street roads but some of these main roads are just lethal. But when I do cycle on pavements I do it slowly and sensibly and have respect for pedestrians, I always slow down for them and I simply wont cycle on pavements that are busy. It's about common sense and respect. There are far more serious issues going on in the world.[/p][/quote]That is really good of you to have respect for pedestrians cycling on the pavement when it is illegal. So basically you are admitting to breaking the law then. Do you also go through red traffic lights?[/p][/quote]Bit hard to go through red lights when riding on a pavement!! Basically I treasure my life so I feel safer on a pavement, every week we hear about a cyclist injured or killed on our roads, I dont recall many reports of injured cyclists on pavements or pedestrians injured by cyclists on pavements. My neices and nephews also come with us out on their bikes to the local park, they are 5 and 6, shall they go on the road too? As I said its using common sense and giving respect for others and having awareness of whats around you. Funny thing is a few weeks ago I was riding on the road when a couple suddenly decided to cross the road, didn't bother looking just kept chatting away and didn't even see me. I'm assuming as they couldnt hear me (or any other traffic) they thought it was ok to cross. Luckily I managed to avoid them. It seems us cyclists can do nothing right. And yes I do drive also.[/p][/quote]1. Does a bicycle make a lot of noise? How would they hear you? When walking my dog at Whitecliff or Dorset Way (on the pavement) the cyclists come whizzing past me from behind which can be alarming. One cyclist actually hit my dog and he went over his handlebars. Luckily he was okay but it could have been quite nasty. He was just going too fast! 2. It is also unbelievable that you are teaching your neices and nephews to break the law at such a young age. 3. I am not against all cyclists just rogue ones - there are a lot of useless car drivers as well! suzigirl

9:24am Thu 31 Jan 13

The Liberal says...

bournenbred wrote:
To all the know it all CYCLISTS !!

PLEAE READ and ABIDE !!!

https://www.gov.uk/r

ules-for-cyclists-59

-to-82/overview-59-t

o-71
The 1835 Act prohibits cycling on a footpath "by the side of any road" and "set apart" for use by pedestrians only – and of course, some cycle paths are actually on pavements.
 
So there is no blanket ban on cyclists riding on pavements/footpaths.
[quote][p][bold]bournenbred[/bold] wrote: To all the know it all CYCLISTS !! PLEAE READ and ABIDE !!! https://www.gov.uk/r ules-for-cyclists-59 -to-82/overview-59-t o-71[/p][/quote]The 1835 Act prohibits cycling on a footpath "by the side of any road" and "set apart" for use by pedestrians only – and of course, some cycle paths are actually on pavements.   So there is no blanket ban on cyclists riding on pavements/footpaths. The Liberal

9:29am Thu 31 Jan 13

The Liberal says...

suzigirl wrote:
I am not against all cyclists just rogue ones

That's very magnanimous of you. Now perhaps you would care to stop being a 'rogue' pedestrian and avoid standing in cycle lanes?
suzigirl wrote: [quote]I am not against all cyclists just rogue ones[/quote] That's very magnanimous of you. Now perhaps you would care to stop being a 'rogue' pedestrian and avoid standing in cycle lanes? The Liberal

9:58am Thu 31 Jan 13

Azphreal says...

Anyone who lives on Tricketts cross knows that you can get to the airport by going down the 'River road' past the sewage works and its a gravel road from there,ok its a sod when its wet but its a major reduction in distance from using the roads.
Anyone who lives on Tricketts cross knows that you can get to the airport by going down the 'River road' past the sewage works and its a gravel road from there,ok its a sod when its wet but its a major reduction in distance from using the roads. Azphreal

10:32am Thu 31 Jan 13

Brian Badonde says...

suzigirl wrote:
cmci2012 wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
cmci2012 wrote: I have to agree with jeebuscripes, it is about respect for others and its a sad world we live in when its all about dividing people... cyclists v motorists yet again. I admit that I cycle on some of the pavements, personally I find it far too scary and dangerous to ride on the roads. I'll cycle on quiet back street roads but some of these main roads are just lethal. But when I do cycle on pavements I do it slowly and sensibly and have respect for pedestrians, I always slow down for them and I simply wont cycle on pavements that are busy. It's about common sense and respect. There are far more serious issues going on in the world.
That is really good of you to have respect for pedestrians cycling on the pavement when it is illegal. So basically you are admitting to breaking the law then. Do you also go through red traffic lights?
Bit hard to go through red lights when riding on a pavement!! Basically I treasure my life so I feel safer on a pavement, every week we hear about a cyclist injured or killed on our roads, I dont recall many reports of injured cyclists on pavements or pedestrians injured by cyclists on pavements. My neices and nephews also come with us out on their bikes to the local park, they are 5 and 6, shall they go on the road too? As I said its using common sense and giving respect for others and having awareness of whats around you. Funny thing is a few weeks ago I was riding on the road when a couple suddenly decided to cross the road, didn't bother looking just kept chatting away and didn't even see me. I'm assuming as they couldnt hear me (or any other traffic) they thought it was ok to cross. Luckily I managed to avoid them. It seems us cyclists can do nothing right. And yes I do drive also.
1. Does a bicycle make a lot of noise? How would they hear you? When walking my dog at Whitecliff or Dorset Way (on the pavement) the cyclists come whizzing past me from behind which can be alarming. One cyclist actually hit my dog and he went over his handlebars. Luckily he was okay but it could have been quite nasty. He was just going too fast!
2. It is also unbelievable that you are teaching your neices and nephews to break the law at such a young age.
3. I am not against all cyclists just rogue ones - there are a lot of useless car drivers as well!
The pavement on Dorset way is not a shared pedestrian/cycle route, it is a cycle route only, which is why the blue signs show a picture of a bicycle and not a picture showing both pedestrians and cyclists.

Additionally there are 'no pedestrians' signs at both ends of Canford Way and the Dorset Way/Canford Way roundabout, so I'm not sure you should be walking along there anyway.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cmci2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cmci2012[/bold] wrote: I have to agree with jeebuscripes, it is about respect for others and its a sad world we live in when its all about dividing people... cyclists v motorists yet again. I admit that I cycle on some of the pavements, personally I find it far too scary and dangerous to ride on the roads. I'll cycle on quiet back street roads but some of these main roads are just lethal. But when I do cycle on pavements I do it slowly and sensibly and have respect for pedestrians, I always slow down for them and I simply wont cycle on pavements that are busy. It's about common sense and respect. There are far more serious issues going on in the world.[/p][/quote]That is really good of you to have respect for pedestrians cycling on the pavement when it is illegal. So basically you are admitting to breaking the law then. Do you also go through red traffic lights?[/p][/quote]Bit hard to go through red lights when riding on a pavement!! Basically I treasure my life so I feel safer on a pavement, every week we hear about a cyclist injured or killed on our roads, I dont recall many reports of injured cyclists on pavements or pedestrians injured by cyclists on pavements. My neices and nephews also come with us out on their bikes to the local park, they are 5 and 6, shall they go on the road too? As I said its using common sense and giving respect for others and having awareness of whats around you. Funny thing is a few weeks ago I was riding on the road when a couple suddenly decided to cross the road, didn't bother looking just kept chatting away and didn't even see me. I'm assuming as they couldnt hear me (or any other traffic) they thought it was ok to cross. Luckily I managed to avoid them. It seems us cyclists can do nothing right. And yes I do drive also.[/p][/quote]1. Does a bicycle make a lot of noise? How would they hear you? When walking my dog at Whitecliff or Dorset Way (on the pavement) the cyclists come whizzing past me from behind which can be alarming. One cyclist actually hit my dog and he went over his handlebars. Luckily he was okay but it could have been quite nasty. He was just going too fast! 2. It is also unbelievable that you are teaching your neices and nephews to break the law at such a young age. 3. I am not against all cyclists just rogue ones - there are a lot of useless car drivers as well![/p][/quote]The pavement on Dorset way is not a shared pedestrian/cycle route, it is a cycle route only, which is why the blue signs show a picture of a bicycle and not a picture showing both pedestrians and cyclists. Additionally there are 'no pedestrians' signs at both ends of Canford Way and the Dorset Way/Canford Way roundabout, so I'm not sure you should be walking along there anyway. Brian Badonde

10:57am Thu 31 Jan 13

cmci2012 says...

suzigirl wrote:
cmci2012 wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
cmci2012 wrote: I have to agree with jeebuscripes, it is about respect for others and its a sad world we live in when its all about dividing people... cyclists v motorists yet again. I admit that I cycle on some of the pavements, personally I find it far too scary and dangerous to ride on the roads. I'll cycle on quiet back street roads but some of these main roads are just lethal. But when I do cycle on pavements I do it slowly and sensibly and have respect for pedestrians, I always slow down for them and I simply wont cycle on pavements that are busy. It's about common sense and respect. There are far more serious issues going on in the world.
That is really good of you to have respect for pedestrians cycling on the pavement when it is illegal. So basically you are admitting to breaking the law then. Do you also go through red traffic lights?
Bit hard to go through red lights when riding on a pavement!! Basically I treasure my life so I feel safer on a pavement, every week we hear about a cyclist injured or killed on our roads, I dont recall many reports of injured cyclists on pavements or pedestrians injured by cyclists on pavements. My neices and nephews also come with us out on their bikes to the local park, they are 5 and 6, shall they go on the road too? As I said its using common sense and giving respect for others and having awareness of whats around you. Funny thing is a few weeks ago I was riding on the road when a couple suddenly decided to cross the road, didn't bother looking just kept chatting away and didn't even see me. I'm assuming as they couldnt hear me (or any other traffic) they thought it was ok to cross. Luckily I managed to avoid them. It seems us cyclists can do nothing right. And yes I do drive also.
1. Does a bicycle make a lot of noise? How would they hear you? When walking my dog at Whitecliff or Dorset Way (on the pavement) the cyclists come whizzing past me from behind which can be alarming. One cyclist actually hit my dog and he went over his handlebars. Luckily he was okay but it could have been quite nasty. He was just going too fast!
2. It is also unbelievable that you are teaching your neices and nephews to break the law at such a young age.
3. I am not against all cyclists just rogue ones - there are a lot of useless car drivers as well!
I was not expecting them to hear me but they should have looked before stepping out, its what I would do when crossing a road, and yes I am quite happy to take my nieces and nephews out to have a bit of childhood fun, something that I imagine most of us would have done, riding your brand new bike to the park, they are hardly hardened criminals.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cmci2012[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cmci2012[/bold] wrote: I have to agree with jeebuscripes, it is about respect for others and its a sad world we live in when its all about dividing people... cyclists v motorists yet again. I admit that I cycle on some of the pavements, personally I find it far too scary and dangerous to ride on the roads. I'll cycle on quiet back street roads but some of these main roads are just lethal. But when I do cycle on pavements I do it slowly and sensibly and have respect for pedestrians, I always slow down for them and I simply wont cycle on pavements that are busy. It's about common sense and respect. There are far more serious issues going on in the world.[/p][/quote]That is really good of you to have respect for pedestrians cycling on the pavement when it is illegal. So basically you are admitting to breaking the law then. Do you also go through red traffic lights?[/p][/quote]Bit hard to go through red lights when riding on a pavement!! Basically I treasure my life so I feel safer on a pavement, every week we hear about a cyclist injured or killed on our roads, I dont recall many reports of injured cyclists on pavements or pedestrians injured by cyclists on pavements. My neices and nephews also come with us out on their bikes to the local park, they are 5 and 6, shall they go on the road too? As I said its using common sense and giving respect for others and having awareness of whats around you. Funny thing is a few weeks ago I was riding on the road when a couple suddenly decided to cross the road, didn't bother looking just kept chatting away and didn't even see me. I'm assuming as they couldnt hear me (or any other traffic) they thought it was ok to cross. Luckily I managed to avoid them. It seems us cyclists can do nothing right. And yes I do drive also.[/p][/quote]1. Does a bicycle make a lot of noise? How would they hear you? When walking my dog at Whitecliff or Dorset Way (on the pavement) the cyclists come whizzing past me from behind which can be alarming. One cyclist actually hit my dog and he went over his handlebars. Luckily he was okay but it could have been quite nasty. He was just going too fast! 2. It is also unbelievable that you are teaching your neices and nephews to break the law at such a young age. 3. I am not against all cyclists just rogue ones - there are a lot of useless car drivers as well![/p][/quote]I was not expecting them to hear me but they should have looked before stepping out, its what I would do when crossing a road, and yes I am quite happy to take my nieces and nephews out to have a bit of childhood fun, something that I imagine most of us would have done, riding your brand new bike to the park, they are hardly hardened criminals. cmci2012

6:42pm Thu 31 Jan 13

itsallaboutthebike says...

I would rather use cycleways to, but if you travelling at 25mph they aren't that safe.
I would rather use cycleways to, but if you travelling at 25mph they aren't that safe. itsallaboutthebike

7:29pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Omni314 says...

bournenbred wrote:
To all the know it all CYCLISTS !!

PLEAE READ and ABIDE !!!

https://www.gov.uk/r

ules-for-cyclists-59

-to-82/overview-59-t

o-71
Turns out I'm a model cyclist. Good to see my common sense fits with the law.
[quote][p][bold]bournenbred[/bold] wrote: To all the know it all CYCLISTS !! PLEAE READ and ABIDE !!! https://www.gov.uk/r ules-for-cyclists-59 -to-82/overview-59-t o-71[/p][/quote]Turns out I'm a model cyclist. Good to see my common sense fits with the law. Omni314

5:41pm Sat 2 Feb 13

cycletourer says...

the 'i pay road tax and cyclist dont' has reared it's head again.Let's sort this one out once and for all.Firstly,'road tax' as a means off collecting money to pay for the road system was scrapped in 1937 so i would strongly suggest that motorists who beleive they are still paying this contact DVLA and get a refund ASAP.What you do pay is V.E.D or vehicle excise duty,which is based on the emisions the vehicle produces and engine size.That is why different car's are charged different amounts.There are 109 models of cars on sale in the UK that are exempt from cost.These are Class A vehicles.As a rule,roads are funded by local taxation so in a sense we all pay for them,pedestrians included.
Now lets say V.E.D was introduced to cyclists.There are an estimated 20 million bicycles in the UK so lets say it would cost £5.00 per bike to set up a regerstration system for all so they can be taxed.That's £100 million cost to start with.It cost about a £1 to produce a V.E.D licence disk so to issue one to all cycles would be another £20 million.
Now we have to work out the class that the bicycle would come under to collect the revenue.A bicycle has zero emisions so would be a class A vehicle,like the 109 models of cars on our market.So the amount a cyclist would pay is £0.00 as does drivers of class A cars.
So in brief to keep the 'i pay road tax' brigade happy,an Approx£100 million outlay of tax payers money for a zero return is the best way to keep these people happy and issue cycles with a V.E.D disc. Simple really.
the 'i pay road tax and cyclist dont' has reared it's head again.Let's sort this one out once and for all.Firstly,'road tax' as a means off collecting money to pay for the road system was scrapped in 1937 so i would strongly suggest that motorists who beleive they are still paying this contact DVLA and get a refund ASAP.What you do pay is V.E.D or vehicle excise duty,which is based on the emisions the vehicle produces and engine size.That is why different car's are charged different amounts.There are 109 models of cars on sale in the UK that are exempt from cost.These are Class A vehicles.As a rule,roads are funded by local taxation so in a sense we all pay for them,pedestrians included. Now lets say V.E.D was introduced to cyclists.There are an estimated 20 million bicycles in the UK so lets say it would cost £5.00 per bike to set up a regerstration system for all so they can be taxed.That's £100 million cost to start with.It cost about a £1 to produce a V.E.D licence disk so to issue one to all cycles would be another £20 million. Now we have to work out the class that the bicycle would come under to collect the revenue.A bicycle has zero emisions so would be a class A vehicle,like the 109 models of cars on our market.So the amount a cyclist would pay is £0.00 as does drivers of class A cars. So in brief to keep the 'i pay road tax' brigade happy,an Approx£100 million outlay of tax payers money for a zero return is the best way to keep these people happy and issue cycles with a V.E.D disc. Simple really. cycletourer

7:09pm Sat 2 Feb 13

An jelly says...

I have read through the comments, I have been a cyclist for many years, I do confess to riding on the pavements with care and respect for pedestrians.I also have felt unsafe on the roads, having been unseen by three cars, been knocked off on a roundabout on a clear day, simply because the motorist did not look in front and kept going without stopping on the roundabout. I go to France regularly, where cycle lanes are everywhere and sometimes split with pedestrians one side and cyclists on the other side. In June last year I spent a week in Poole hospital and reality really hit me, in my ward was a young girl, who had been hit by. A hit and run driver, also a top medical man with terrible brain injuries, this from being hit off of his bike. We are a small country where space is limited, but common sense has to be used for cyclists, pedestrians and drivers.
I have read through the comments, I have been a cyclist for many years, I do confess to riding on the pavements with care and respect for pedestrians.I also have felt unsafe on the roads, having been unseen by three cars, been knocked off on a roundabout on a clear day, simply because the motorist did not look in front and kept going without stopping on the roundabout. I go to France regularly, where cycle lanes are everywhere and sometimes split with pedestrians one side and cyclists on the other side. In June last year I spent a week in Poole hospital and reality really hit me, in my ward was a young girl, who had been hit by. A hit and run driver, also a top medical man with terrible brain injuries, this from being hit off of his bike. We are a small country where space is limited, but common sense has to be used for cyclists, pedestrians and drivers. An jelly

10:52am Sun 3 Feb 13

Avengerboy says...

What a waste, the underused pavement there is fine whilst the cycle safety around Winton and Glenmore Schools is pitiful. The next fatality will result in much hand wringing and soul searching no doubt.
What a waste, the underused pavement there is fine whilst the cycle safety around Winton and Glenmore Schools is pitiful. The next fatality will result in much hand wringing and soul searching no doubt. Avengerboy

11:03am Wed 6 Feb 13

davecook says...

FNS-man wrote:
A few points:

1. It's not that much

The Treasury said that when reducing fuel duty increases last year that "Taken together, the government's support has been worth £5.5bn and means that pump prices are 10p a litre cheaper than they otherwise would have been".

And the government are crowing about £62m for cycling?

The Dutch spend about £15 per head on cycling per year (so about £900m for the UK population), and they've already got excellent facilities.

2. Who wants to cycle from Trickett's Cross to Bournemouth Airport?

I'd imagine people on a leisure cycle at the weekend. It's not that sort of facility that we need. What we need to do is make it safe for children to cycle around: to school, to see their friends and to go to their various activities.

When this is true then we'll have facilities that are suitable for everyone to cycle.
One day we'll get decent roads for cars that are not clogged up by cyclists......
[quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: A few points: 1. It's not that much The Treasury said that when reducing fuel duty increases last year that "Taken together, the government's support has been worth £5.5bn and means that pump prices are 10p a litre cheaper than they otherwise would have been". And the government are crowing about £62m for cycling? The Dutch spend about £15 per head on cycling per year (so about £900m for the UK population), and they've already got excellent facilities. 2. Who wants to cycle from Trickett's Cross to Bournemouth Airport? I'd imagine people on a leisure cycle at the weekend. It's not that sort of facility that we need. What we need to do is make it safe for children to cycle around: to school, to see their friends and to go to their various activities. When this is true then we'll have facilities that are suitable for everyone to cycle.[/p][/quote]One day we'll get decent roads for cars that are not clogged up by cyclists...... davecook

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