HAVE YOUR SAY: Would advertising Britain's downsides keep migrants away? (From Bournemouth Echo)
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HAVE YOUR SAY: Would advertising Britain's downsides keep migrants away?
1:12pm Monday 28th January 2013 in News
An advertising campaign highlighting the pitfalls of life in the UK such as the rain expected to drench the country this week could be used by the Government to put off would-be immigrants from Romania and Bulgaria.
The measure is reported to be among ideas being considered by officials seeking ways to curb the expected arrivals from the two newest EU member states when temporary restrictions expire in December.
They are also looking at the potential to deport anyone who failed to find work within three months of arriving or to show they could support themselves for six months.
No official estimate has been put on the anticipated number of arrivals - with ministers wary of the situation when Poland joined the Union and much larger numbers than predicted came to the UK.
Communities Secretary Eric Pickles has admitted the influx would ''cause problems'' with services such as housing, with the highest numbers likely to pick London boroughs which already have significant populations from the countries.
However, he insisted it was not ''reasonable'' to assume that 300,000 would move to the UK - the figure suggested by some Tories based on migration levels after Poland, the Czech Republic, Latvia and Lithuania acceded.
The Government has confirmed it will not seek to extend temporary curbs on 29 million Romanian and Bulgarian nationals' right to live and work in Britain, which are due to expire in December.
Prime Minister David Cameron's official spokesman declined to comment on reports of an advertising campaign to put off would-be migrants from Romania and Bulgaria coming to the UK.
The spokesman told a regular Westminster media briefing: ''As you would expect, the Government is considering what options there may be and the process of looking into these and considering them is under way.
''The issue here is around dealing with potential damage to the UK labour market and potential scope for curbing immigration to that end.
''We are in the process of considering what we may be able to do. Clearly, there is a European legal framework within which we have to operate.''
Comments(26)
twynham
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1:27pm Mon 28 Jan 13
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Would be enough to put me off!
Rustynails
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1:28pm Mon 28 Jan 13
sarahinpoole
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1:43pm Mon 28 Jan 13
muscliffman
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1:55pm Mon 28 Jan 13
As soon as we are forced to open our border by the EU they will be heading here - where we will of course also provide them with benefits and a shed load more.
It cannot be unreasonble to put a qualification bar on our UK benefits, just like any other form of insurance would.
NHS, benefit payments of all kinds, legal-aid, the lot, if people have no history period of contributing in the UK (like paying a premium) then you don't get them. (Other than in exceptional circumstances of course).
Just common sense surely. People are so angry about this, I anticipate someone will soon put a more frank comment on here and we posters will all disappear - branded as 'racists' no doubt.
politicaltrainspotter
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2:02pm Mon 28 Jan 13
FNS-man
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2:05pm Mon 28 Jan 13
scrumpyjack
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2:11pm Mon 28 Jan 13
sarahinpoole wrote:That's the point - they are being prevented at the moment, even though they are in th EU.
or try just not letting them in...
These restrictions are going to be lifted.
scrumpyjack
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2:13pm Mon 28 Jan 13
FNS-man wrote:Complete cliche.
It was terrible when all those Polish people came over. I mean, getting plumbing done by people who turned up on time, worked hard and ... oh.
Rustynails
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2:13pm Mon 28 Jan 13
muscliffman wrote:Those are just the ones in Spain, there is a similar number in Italy enjoying The Italian sun.. A possible good point tho.Non of the vehicles they are driving would ever pass a MOT & in all probability they are not insured, let alone that any of them have a licence to drive.. so perhaps our BORDER FORCE could do a job properly & not let them in ????
It is reported that 700,000 of them are already in Spain where they only get a tan for doing nothing.
As soon as we are forced to open our border by the EU they will be heading here - where we will of course also provide them with benefits and a shed load more.
It cannot be unreasonble to put a qualification bar on our UK benefits, just like any other form of insurance would.
NHS, benefit payments of all kinds, legal-aid, the lot, if people have no history period of contributing in the UK (like paying a premium) then you don't get them. (Other than in exceptional circumstances of course).
Just common sense surely. People are so angry about this, I anticipate someone will soon put a more frank comment on here and we posters will all disappear - branded as 'racists' no doubt.
muscliffman
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2:39pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Rustynails wrote:Just like the same agencies deal with foreign trucks.
muscliffman wrote:Those are just the ones in Spain, there is a similar number in Italy enjoying The Italian sun.. A possible good point tho.Non of the vehicles they are driving would ever pass a MOT & in all probability they are not insured, let alone that any of them have a licence to drive.. so perhaps our BORDER FORCE could do a job properly & not let them in ????
It is reported that 700,000 of them are already in Spain where they only get a tan for doing nothing.
As soon as we are forced to open our border by the EU they will be heading here - where we will of course also provide them with benefits and a shed load more.
It cannot be unreasonble to put a qualification bar on our UK benefits, just like any other form of insurance would.
NHS, benefit payments of all kinds, legal-aid, the lot, if people have no history period of contributing in the UK (like paying a premium) then you don't get them. (Other than in exceptional circumstances of course).
Just common sense surely. People are so angry about this, I anticipate someone will soon put a more frank comment on here and we posters will all disappear - branded as 'racists' no doubt.
Leave them alone or perhaps issue meaningless unenforcable penalties whilst persecuting the British (easy target) truckers.
Sorry - no chance this would work.
mikey2gorgeous
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3:11pm Mon 28 Jan 13
muscliffman wrote:Bulgarians and Romanians who come to the UK will have to be working for at least 12 months before being eligible for any housing or benefits.
It is reported that 700,000 of them are already in Spain where they only get a tan for doing nothing.
As soon as we are forced to open our border by the EU they will be heading here - where we will of course also provide them with benefits and a shed load more.
It cannot be unreasonble to put a qualification bar on our UK benefits, just like any other form of insurance would.
NHS, benefit payments of all kinds, legal-aid, the lot, if people have no history period of contributing in the UK (like paying a premium) then you don't get them. (Other than in exceptional circumstances of course).
Just common sense surely. People are so angry about this, I anticipate someone will soon put a more frank comment on here and we posters will all disappear - branded as 'racists' no doubt.
The idea they can just turn up and start claiming is a lie. The DO have to have been contributing. Happy now?
Gastines3
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3:12pm Mon 28 Jan 13
ff and crooks and several hundred thousand are already here and we seem unable to deport the trash.
The Renegade Master
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3:24pm Mon 28 Jan 13
It's time for the UK to shut it's borders to all immigrants and to deport all those who are currently here on benefits. They should NOT be our problem. Send them all back where they came from and let's get our once great country out of the EU.
Phixer
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3:32pm Mon 28 Jan 13
scrumpyjack wrote:Vote to come out of the EU.
sarahinpoole wrote:That's the point - they are being prevented at the moment, even though they are in th EU.
or try just not letting them in...
These restrictions are going to be lifted.
Rustynails
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3:36pm Mon 28 Jan 13
muscliffman wrote:Any vehicle, Truck or otherwise, arriving at any UK Port that does Not have the required documentation or is deemed unroadworthy is impounded, this has been the case for at least the last 4 years, in addition, as you will have seen on the TV, any vehicle stopped on a UK road by the Police or Vehicle Inspectorate, that is found to be un roadworthy condition or has incorrect or missing documentation is again impounded, these vehicles remain impounded until repaired or documents corrected. After a period of time, if repairs /documentation is not corrected the vehicle is crushed. From what I have seen, most Roma drive clapped out cars & light vans, often towing caravans, they will not be difficult to spot.
Rustynails wrote:Just like the same agencies deal with foreign trucks.
muscliffman wrote:Those are just the ones in Spain, there is a similar number in Italy enjoying The Italian sun.. A possible good point tho.Non of the vehicles they are driving would ever pass a MOT & in all probability they are not insured, let alone that any of them have a licence to drive.. so perhaps our BORDER FORCE could do a job properly & not let them in ????
It is reported that 700,000 of them are already in Spain where they only get a tan for doing nothing.
As soon as we are forced to open our border by the EU they will be heading here - where we will of course also provide them with benefits and a shed load more.
It cannot be unreasonble to put a qualification bar on our UK benefits, just like any other form of insurance would.
NHS, benefit payments of all kinds, legal-aid, the lot, if people have no history period of contributing in the UK (like paying a premium) then you don't get them. (Other than in exceptional circumstances of course).
Just common sense surely. People are so angry about this, I anticipate someone will soon put a more frank comment on here and we posters will all disappear - branded as 'racists' no doubt.
Leave them alone or perhaps issue meaningless unenforcable penalties whilst persecuting the British (easy target) truckers.
Sorry - no chance this would work.
Redgolfer
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4:31pm Mon 28 Jan 13
muscliffman wrote:Why would they NOT come when this country opens up to all and sundry, paying them so much more in benefits than they can earn in there own country without PAYING ANYTHING IN, lets have the vote NOW as to stay in this EU letting anybody in who resides in flaming block and I am NOT a racist and I SO AGREE with the above POST but the ordinary people of this country DO NOT MATTER, SOON BRITIONS will be a minority in their own country, ENOCH you were right.
It is reported that 700,000 of them are already in Spain where they only get a tan for doing nothing.
As soon as we are forced to open our border by the EU they will be heading here - where we will of course also provide them with benefits and a shed load more.
It cannot be unreasonble to put a qualification bar on our UK benefits, just like any other form of insurance would.
NHS, benefit payments of all kinds, legal-aid, the lot, if people have no history period of contributing in the UK (like paying a premium) then you don't get them. (Other than in exceptional circumstances of course).
Just common sense surely. People are so angry about this, I anticipate someone will soon put a more frank comment on here and we posters will all disappear - branded as 'racists' no doubt.
Redgolfer
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4:34pm Mon 28 Jan 13
The Renegade Master wrote:HEAR HEAR.
What's worse? A bit of rain or a nice cosy life on benefits provided by the UK tax payer? I think I know what many of the immigrants will say to that.
It's time for the UK to shut it's borders to all immigrants and to deport all those who are currently here on benefits. They should NOT be our problem. Send them all back where they came from and let's get our once great country out of the EU.
Tom 'Boscombe' Jones
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6:13pm Mon 28 Jan 13
tramp_about_town
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7:32pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Hobad1
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8:01pm Mon 28 Jan 13
tramp_about_town wrote:Lol. But....it'll probably happen soon ! Time to emigrate.....
I think these people are amazing and we should be welcoming everyone in to this country and looking after them by the amazing public sector peoples. I'd like to suggest that all us undeserving taxpayers pay twice as much tax so we can help all the amazing immigrants and public sector peoples.
billd766
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1:04am Tue 29 Jan 13
I have paid taxes all my life and now despite being retired I still do so even though I get NO benefits at all.I find it very strange that I can return to the UK, my son can enter the UK but unless my income is in excess of £18,600 I cannot bring my wife over.
In addition if I could bring my wife over she has to pass a test proving that the can read, write and speak English BEFORE she is even granted a visa. She has to live in the UK for 5 years before being entitled to UK citizenship and ANY benefits.
Contrast that with anyone coming from the EU countries who will be given so much for free to them but the cost will fall on the UK taxpayers of whom I am one.
The good news for my son and I is that she has no intention of EVER living in the UK and neither do my son or me.
The only way that the UK can keep so many people out is to devise and ENFORCE rules which are very hard to meet and the few who pass will be welcome and the many who fail will not be allowed to enter.
Loyal2AFCB
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2:29am Tue 29 Jan 13
guisselle
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5:35am Tue 29 Jan 13
multicultural.
charlie2004
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8:20am Tue 29 Jan 13
guisselle wrote:Not through choice though. Time to vote OUT of the EU farce. I would like to say more, but would be banned.
Well its a fact of life now England is
multicultural.
scrumpyjack
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8:41am Tue 29 Jan 13
billd766 wrote:My god that's just racist!
I quit the UK many years ago to work offshore and I have made my home in Thailand. I have a Thai wife and a son with dual nationality.
I have paid taxes all my life and now despite being retired I still do so even though I get NO benefits at all.I find it very strange that I can return to the UK, my son can enter the UK but unless my income is in excess of £18,600 I cannot bring my wife over.
In addition if I could bring my wife over she has to pass a test proving that the can read, write and speak English BEFORE she is even granted a visa. She has to live in the UK for 5 years before being entitled to UK citizenship and ANY benefits.
Contrast that with anyone coming from the EU countries who will be given so much for free to them but the cost will fall on the UK taxpayers of whom I am one.
The good news for my son and I is that she has no intention of EVER living in the UK and neither do my son or me.
The only way that the UK can keep so many people out is to devise and ENFORCE rules which are very hard to meet and the few who pass will be welcome and the many who fail will not be allowed to enter.
Ban this sort of comment.
Hang on it isn't, you're just pointing out facts and in fact have a wife of non-UK origin.
Oh, it seems you can point out the negative points of mass immigration and not be racist. Who knew.
supercool says...
1:21pm Mon 28 Jan 13
Sign this petition to restrict Bulgarian and Romanians from entering the UK:
http://epetitions.di
rect.gov.uk/petition
s/41492