French gas leak closes Kinson Primary school (From Bournemouth Echo)

Parents were asked not to smoke when they picked their children up- so they stood around smoking outside the gates- brilliant!

i dont believe it was not toxic for one second! lets face it heilium is dangerous to breath in!

So Southern Gas Networks advised the evacuation and attended. So the school followed the advice of those with experience of gas smells and wasn't stupid as some of yesterday's posters maintained. Even knowing that I expect they'll still be saying it was a stupid decision.

Pathetic, 10 seconds on Google and the school would have discovered the cause.

Schools really do look for the slightest opportunity for an early day or day off

polblagger wrote:
Pathetic, 10 seconds on Google and the school would have discovered the cause.

Schools really do look for the slightest opportunity for an early day or day off

As I said, people will still be saying it was a stupid decision - and take another opportunity to knock teachers.
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What if there had actually been a gas leak at the same time? Southern Gas Networks obviously thought it was worth investigating. The school has a duty of care for the children and can't take that duty lightly.
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I can imagine the comments on how stupid the school was for NOT evacuating if there HAD been a gas leak and children were killed or injured. It would likely be the same people as now saying they were stupid in this case.

T-butyl Mercaptan should be handled with care even in well ventilated areas not due to it's toxicity but due to it's foul smell. This is because it can cause nausea in people. Although it will have been 'well ventilated' in it's travel over from Rouen people would still have been concerned for their health. People have different levels at which they feel sick. Personally it just seemed like an oily engine smell in the air here in Poole. Wasn't it a few years ago we had the smell of manure from the German (or French?) farmers spreading on their fields. Shame these things are never pleasant odours! When are we going to etract revenge with our own formula?

That explains the strong smell of gas near me yesterday.

canfordcherry wrote:
T-butyl Mercaptan should be handled with care even in well ventilated areas not due to it's toxicity but due to it's foul smell. This is because it can cause nausea in people. Although it will have been 'well ventilated' in it's travel over from Rouen people would still have been concerned for their health. People have different levels at which they feel sick. Personally it just seemed like an oily engine smell in the air here in Poole. Wasn't it a few years ago we had the smell of manure from the German (or French?) farmers spreading on their fields. Shame these things are never pleasant odours! When are we going to etract revenge with our own formula?

I think people have different perceptions of smell.
Like Canfordcherry says, it was more of an oily, coal tar type smell. It certainly didn't smell like the additive to domestic gas, so I dismissed the possibility of a gas leak. In fact I thought that maybe there had been an incident at Fawley refinery until I Googled it.

Gross incompetence on both sides here was the gas engineer not aware of the leak in France ,it was all over the news bulletins yesterday and as someone earlier stated seconds on google would have found the answer maybe the snow flurries around that time added to the schools concerns KNEEJERK reaction

Gross incompetence on both sides here was the gas engineer not aware of the leak in France ,it was all over the news bulletins yesterday and as someone earlier stated seconds on google would have found the answer maybe the snow flurries around that time added to the schools concerns KNEEJERK reaction

No smell here in Paris today.
Must be due to that giant fan they installed in South East Rouen yesterday.

alasdair1967 wrote:
Gross incompetence on both sides here was the gas engineer not aware of the leak in France ,it was all over the news bulletins yesterday and as someone earlier stated seconds on google would have found the answer maybe the snow flurries around that time added to the schools concerns KNEEJERK reaction

So it was totally impossible that there was a gas leak at the school at the same time?

Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?

TinyLegacy wrote:
Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?

Nice try at playing the 'what if' game.

If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast?

What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms?

Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe.

Ridiculous comment.

polblagger wrote:

TinyLegacy wrote:
Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?

Nice try at playing the 'what if' game.

If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast?

What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms?

Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe.

Ridiculous comment.

Interesting that the smell of gas travelled all the way from Paris, along the south coast, and it wasn't until it reached Kinson that someone panic'd.

Carolyn43 wrote:

alasdair1967 wrote:
Gross incompetence on both sides here was the gas engineer not aware of the leak in France ,it was all over the news bulletins yesterday and as someone earlier stated seconds on google would have found the answer maybe the snow flurries around that time added to the schools concerns KNEEJERK reaction

So it was totally impossible that there was a gas leak at the school at the same time?

The same odour that has been covering the majority of the south coast since yesterday

seems we have been commenting on the wrong thread (yesterday's news, today's "olds). was obliviously to all this as my child was off sick yesterday. here's what we wrote on the other article...

1) Regarding this "tramp about town".
Probably you are a tramp using the library
computers to spout off this utter ignorant
nonsense!
Listen if you don't have children (who are
at school) it should be suggested that you
don't even get involved on a comments
section regarding children... ”

2) Agreed in some ways a lot of today's
youth is disrespectful and out of control,
with no manners. I'll give you that. I put
this down to bad parenting though.
Now, in other ways, back in the day when
the tolly was used in school, and there
was less of this "health and safety"
protocol football hooliganism was rife
(even even during the 70's and 80's let
alone the 90's). Nowadays this is mostly a
thing of the past.
Plus my son went to a very strict, zero
tolerance, no holds barred, all boys
catholic school in the 80's. My point, this
school, along with most other local
schools were full of bullies, very
boisterous and having fights with other
schools, etc.
So you can not ever really fault a school
saying the way contributes to today's
society. Just a thought. Think before you
speak. Stop reading the Daily Mail! ”

3) scrumpyjack wrote:
I hate 'over the top' safety.
But you would have to be an utter fool to
ignore the smell of gas.
Just put 'gas explosion' under google
images.
If people are in school all day how are
they expected to know about something
that was reported in the news during the
day?
In my opinion there are 2 trolls working
today.
And this from somebody who is normally
in the frame.
Very commendable coming from you
Grumpy Jack. Hats off to you sir for
seeing the light ;-) ”

Get a life people!!!

NOT EVERY ONE IS GLUED TO BBC NEWS 24/7. WE AS A HOUSEHOLD, FOR ONE, DON'T EVEN HAVE LIVE TV (Not stupid enough to pay for a "TV License" as we don't ourselves as sheeple)

*we don't COUNT ouslrselves as sheeple (no pun intended)

l'anglais wrote:
No smell here in Paris today. Must be due to that giant fan they installed in South East Rouen yesterday.

With 10 million french people I find that hard to believe.

Good job it wasn't a nuclear 'cloud' leak - just how many nuclear power stations does France have on the Cherbourg/Normandy coastline - four or five? Thanks EDF.

Buy yourself some Febreeze spray
that'll do the trick!

Eloise Fabreeze (sneeze)

polblagger wrote:

TinyLegacy wrote:
Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?

Nice try at playing the 'what if' game.

If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast?

What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms?

Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe.

Ridiculous comment.

You sir, are an idiot. Or troll, which is more likely.

Next time someone smells gas, no matter where they are, it's best they find the nearest internet connection and get on Google, right?

TinyLegacy wrote:

polblagger wrote:

TinyLegacy wrote:
Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?

Nice try at playing the 'what if' game.

If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast?

What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms?

Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe.

Ridiculous comment.

You sir, are an idiot. Or troll, which is more likely.

Next time someone smells gas, no matter where they are, it's best they find the nearest internet connection and get on Google, right?

Why is it when ever somebody has a different opinion to certain commenter's on here they are branded trolls by the same old faces, freedom of speech is a wonderful right which people like TinyLegacy would like to be taken away.

This is the second day this has happened! We were debating this yesterday until some of the usual crowd came along slinging insults.

This is totally unacceptable! Just think of the children and how their education must be suffering.

This school should be investigated by OFSTED immediately to dicover what on earth is going on.

Hessenford wrote:

TinyLegacy wrote:

polblagger wrote:

TinyLegacy wrote:
Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?

Nice try at playing the 'what if' game.

If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast?

What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms?

Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe.

Ridiculous comment.

You sir, are an idiot. Or troll, which is more likely.

Next time someone smells gas, no matter where they are, it's best they find the nearest internet connection and get on Google, right?

Why is it when ever somebody has a different opinion to certain commenter's on here they are branded trolls by the same old faces, freedom of speech is a wonderful right which people like TinyLegacy would like to be taken away.

So now you're having a go because im a communist? Not very democratic of you...

Wesoblind wrote:
i dont believe it was not toxic for one second! lets face it heilium is dangerous to breath in!

Yep....it makes you talk and sing like Alvin from the Chipmunks.

TinyLegacy wrote:

Hessenford wrote:

TinyLegacy wrote:

polblagger wrote:

TinyLegacy wrote:
Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?

Nice try at playing the 'what if' game.

If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast?

What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms?

Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe.

Ridiculous comment.

You sir, are an idiot. Or troll, which is more likely.

Next time someone smells gas, no matter where they are, it's best they find the nearest internet connection and get on Google, right?

Why is it when ever somebody has a different opinion to certain commenter's on here they are branded trolls by the same old faces, freedom of speech is a wonderful right which people like TinyLegacy would like to be taken away.

So now you're having a go because im a communist? Not very democratic of you...

Not having a go, posing a question, your reaction to others comments by way of insults leads one to believe that you do not want others to speak freely, especially when they don't agree with your statements.

Well now you're just jumping to conclusions.

TinyLegacy wrote:
Well now you're just jumping to conclusions.

Well prove me wrong and I will apologise, stop calling people trolls just because they have an alternative view to yours.

tramp_about_town wrote:
This is the second day this has happened! We were debating this yesterday until some of the usual crowd came along slinging insults.

This is totally unacceptable! Just think of the children and how their education must be suffering.

This school should be investigated by OFSTED immediately to dicover what on earth is going on.

Well said, first snow the gas, what else can the think up for a triple whammy.

Hessenford wrote:

TinyLegacy wrote:
Well now you're just jumping to conclusions.

Well prove me wrong and I will apologise, stop calling people trolls just because they have an alternative view to yours.

Sorry, how often do I do this? That's rhetorical BTW, I care not for your answer. I am always right.

TinyLegacy wrote:

Hessenford wrote:

TinyLegacy wrote:
Well now you're just jumping to conclusions.

Well prove me wrong and I will apologise, stop calling people trolls just because they have an alternative view to yours.

Sorry, how often do I do this? That's rhetorical BTW, I care not for your answer. I am always right.

Just as I thought, a bigot.

Hessenford wrote:

tramp_about_town wrote:
This is the second day this has happened! We were debating this yesterday until some of the usual crowd came along slinging insults.

This is totally unacceptable! Just think of the children and how their education must be suffering.

This school should be investigated by OFSTED immediately to dicover what on earth is going on.

Well said, first snow the gas, what else can the think up for a triple whammy.

Two of a kind you both are, definitely either trolls or plain idiotic.

Childrens' education suffering??? This school be invesigated by OFSTED???
Because they were evacuated 30 minutes earlier than the usual bell?

You should be investigated by mental health!

So how did this school contact parents about the 'suspected' explosive gas leak on their premises.

Electronically - by text it reports above, when presumably the kids were still on site. (Clue - they ask you to turn off phones at petrol stations because....)

'nuff said' in the circumstances I think.

How many other schools shut in this area because of this smell, how many schools between Kinson and the coast didn't shut, why was it only one school that could smell the gas.

Did schools in France close?, no because there was no panic, it's only the UK when hysteria sets in. And another day off for the teachers, and the head.what have we become!

To my mind it says what a lot of daft types run these schools probably all headmistresses with there heads in the clouds,

Hessenford wrote:
How many other schools shut in this area because of this smell, how many schools between Kinson and the coast didn't shut, why was it only one school that could smell the gas.

Another fair point - but judging by the ignorance on here best to put your comments 'tin hat' on anyway!

I am quite near this School and I could smell an odour that was somewhere between stale diesel and old sweat (nice!).

The artficial smell put into UK gas seems to be very different to the 'flavour' used by the French. (This gas, UK or French, has no natural odour).

I did not for one moment suspect a domestic UK gas leak and neither evidently did the vast - and clearly more enlightened in so many ways - majority.

Good intentions - no doubt. Got it wrong - proven without a doubt.

tramp_about_town wrote:
This is the second day this has happened! We were debating this yesterday until some of the usual crowd came along slinging insults.

This is totally unacceptable! Just think of the children and how their education must be suffering.

This school should be investigated by OFSTED immediately to dicover what on earth is going on.

What are you on about? This is the second day this has happened? This is another report of what happened YESTERDAY.

TinyLegacy wrote:

polblagger wrote:

TinyLegacy wrote:
Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?

Nice try at playing the 'what if' game.

If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast?

What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms?

Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe.

Ridiculous comment.

You sir, are an idiot. Or troll, which is more likely.

Next time someone smells gas, no matter where they are, it's best they find the nearest internet connection and get on Google, right?

But they couldn't switch on the leccy for their wi-fi box in case it was a home gas leak...but then again they're too busy trolling on here to think about things like that, you know, safety and such.

whataboutthat wrote:
Good job it wasn't a nuclear 'cloud' leak - just how many nuclear power stations does France have on the Cherbourg/Normandy coastline - four or five? Thanks EDF.

The clue is Electricité de France.

Now if you want to sell your national assets, no point griping when a competent foreigner comes along and cleans up your mess.

I heard the good news about the "British" export figures for Car sales.
What was exported?
British Leyland?
Morris?
Austin?
E Type?

tramp_about_town wrote:

Carolyn43 wrote:

tramp_about_town wrote:
This is the second day this has happened! We were debating this yesterday until some of the usual crowd came along slinging insults.

This is totally unacceptable! Just think of the children and how their education must be suffering.

This school should be investigated by OFSTED immediately to dicover what on earth is going on.

What are you on about? This is the second day this has happened? This is another report of what happened YESTERDAY.

I don't think so. Why on earth would the Echo bother to make it the main headline today if it only happened yesterday? I know that education (or the failure to deliver should I say) is an important story but not in the context of one school!

You need to get a grip!

Another panicky person! This town/country is getting more ridiculous by the day!

Read the article. Throughout it says "yesterday". It's you who needs to get a grip, and I'm certainly not panicking - apart from the fact that I don't panick, the the ONLY incident was on TUESDAY.

Some people are starting to appear genuinely mad.....

The latter part of last year a few commenters labellled Bournemouth as the murder capital of the south,i suggest that due to the recent comments on our snowfall and now this, perhaps the paranoia capital of the south be more apt

TinyLegacy wrote:

polblagger wrote:

TinyLegacy wrote:
Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?

Nice try at playing the 'what if' game.

If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast?

What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms?

Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe.

Ridiculous comment.

You sir, are an idiot. Or troll, which is more likely.

Next time someone smells gas, no matter where they are, it's best they find the nearest internet connection and get on Google, right?

I had hoped to not need to point out the blatantly obvious.

This is a chemical leak that started in France.

How on earth could a group of educators fail to distinguish the level of concentration being stronger OUTSIDE the building rather than INSIDE.

If I was responsible for children's safety, far from pushing them into the concentrated area I'd be inclined to keep them inside.

HRH of Boscombe wrote:

l'anglais wrote:
No smell here in Paris today. Must be due to that giant fan they installed in South East Rouen yesterday.

With 10 million french people I find that hard to believe.

Oh dear HRH, you must be so embarrassed you penned this little retort. OK, laugh out loud folks at his masterfully crafted piece of rib-aching, side-splitting humour. Perhaps you thought it was smart, a bit cutting-edge? Or, perhaps you spend too much time in your bedroom, staring at your computer screen, and picking up all such puerile nonsense. You should get out more often.

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