French gas leak closes Kinson Primary school

Bournemouth Echo: French gas leak closes Kinson Primary school French gas leak closes Kinson Primary school

RESIDENTS were urged not to panic after a smell of gas wafting over the county yesterday sparked safety scares.

The whiff was coming from a French chemical company 200 miles away – but was enough for Kinson Primary School in Bournemouth to send children home early for fear it had a gas leak on site. Emergency services were bombarded with calls reporting a foul smell like rotten eggs from around 1pm.

As we reported yesterday, Dorset Fire and Rescue Service took around a dozen calls from concerned residents, many of whom had struggled to get through to the Transco emergency number, which was inundated by alarmed residents. Gas company Transco had thousands.

Some people even reported feeling dizzy after breathing in the foul air.

One Daily Echo reader said: “Smelt it around 1.50pm walking up East Way hill and felt really dizzy for around five minutes, not nice.”

However, the Health Protection Agency insisted the smell drifting across the English Channel posed no risk to public health.

Parents at Kinson Primary were texted at around 2.45pm to ask them to collect children early.

A spokesman for Bournemouth council said: “The decision to evacuate the school was made following advice from Southern Gas Networks. Southern Gas Networks wanted to attend the school in order to rule out a gas leak on site, which they have now done. The evacuation of pupils was a precautionary measure to ensure the children’s safety.”

The council’s health and safety team also received concerned calls from St Katherine’s School and King’s Park Primary School. They were informed that the smell posed no risk.

The unpleasant odour was reported across southern England after the leak at a chemical factory in Rouen, 75 miles west of Paris. Strong winds blew the foul-smelling gas, called Mercaptan, across the channel yesterday following the leak on Monday.

French officials said the concentration of the gas leaked from the Lubrizol factory was “very low”.

A statement issued by the Seine-Maritime prefecture said: “The gas has an unpleasant smell but is not toxic.”

The odour is caused by a particularly smelly chemical that is added to odourless natural gas to give that its characteristic smell.

Livio Ferrone, of Warnford Road, Bournemouth, said: “I spent 45 minutes trying to get through to British gas to report the smell of gas along our road. I eventually tried the ‘Do you want a new boiler?’ telephone number and was told the gas cloud from France was passing over, thus the smell.”

A Dorset Fire and Rescue Spokesman said: “We’ve take numerous calls which we believe are related to this massive plume in France. Transco are aware and have taken thousands of calls about it as well.

“If the smell of gas is coming from outside your home, please shut your windows and doors. In all probability it is related to this French chemical escape.

“Calls need to go through to Transco in the first instance, as there is little we can do.”

Fire crews were dispatched to Mill Lane, Christchurch, yesterday afternoon, to check on the stink.

The Health Protection Agency said: “The chemical leak has blown across the Channel overnight. It is not toxic and has also been diluted before entering the air over England, so people should be reassured it will cause no harm.”

 

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9:42am Wed 23 Jan 13

Por Speller says...

Parents were asked not to smoke when they picked their children up- so they stood around smoking outside the gates- brilliant!
Parents were asked not to smoke when they picked their children up- so they stood around smoking outside the gates- brilliant! Por Speller
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9:44am Wed 23 Jan 13

Wesoblind says...

i dont believe it was not toxic for one second! lets face it heilium is dangerous to breath in!
i dont believe it was not toxic for one second! lets face it heilium is dangerous to breath in! Wesoblind
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9:59am Wed 23 Jan 13

Carolyn43 says...

So Southern Gas Networks advised the evacuation and attended. So the school followed the advice of those with experience of gas smells and wasn't stupid as some of yesterday's posters maintained. Even knowing that I expect they'll still be saying it was a stupid decision.
So Southern Gas Networks advised the evacuation and attended. So the school followed the advice of those with experience of gas smells and wasn't stupid as some of yesterday's posters maintained. Even knowing that I expect they'll still be saying it was a stupid decision. Carolyn43
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10:02am Wed 23 Jan 13

polblagger says...

Pathetic, 10 seconds on Google and the school would have discovered the cause.

Schools really do look for the slightest opportunity for an early day or day off
Pathetic, 10 seconds on Google and the school would have discovered the cause. Schools really do look for the slightest opportunity for an early day or day off polblagger
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10:12am Wed 23 Jan 13

Carolyn43 says...

polblagger wrote:
Pathetic, 10 seconds on Google and the school would have discovered the cause.

Schools really do look for the slightest opportunity for an early day or day off
As I said, people will still be saying it was a stupid decision - and take another opportunity to knock teachers.
......
What if there had actually been a gas leak at the same time? Southern Gas Networks obviously thought it was worth investigating. The school has a duty of care for the children and can't take that duty lightly.
......
I can imagine the comments on how stupid the school was for NOT evacuating if there HAD been a gas leak and children were killed or injured. It would likely be the same people as now saying they were stupid in this case.
[quote][p][bold]polblagger[/bold] wrote: Pathetic, 10 seconds on Google and the school would have discovered the cause. Schools really do look for the slightest opportunity for an early day or day off[/p][/quote]As I said, people will still be saying it was a stupid decision - and take another opportunity to knock teachers. ...... What if there had actually been a gas leak at the same time? Southern Gas Networks obviously thought it was worth investigating. The school has a duty of care for the children and can't take that duty lightly. ...... I can imagine the comments on how stupid the school was for NOT evacuating if there HAD been a gas leak and children were killed or injured. It would likely be the same people as now saying they were stupid in this case. Carolyn43
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10:12am Wed 23 Jan 13

canfordcherry says...

T-butyl Mercaptan should be handled with care even in well ventilated areas not due to it's toxicity but due to it's foul smell. This is because it can cause nausea in people. Although it will have been 'well ventilated' in it's travel over from Rouen people would still have been concerned for their health. People have different levels at which they feel sick. Personally it just seemed like an oily engine smell in the air here in Poole. Wasn't it a few years ago we had the smell of manure from the German (or French?) farmers spreading on their fields. Shame these things are never pleasant odours! When are we going to etract revenge with our own formula?
T-butyl Mercaptan should be handled with care even in well ventilated areas not due to it's toxicity but due to it's foul smell. This is because it can cause nausea in people. Although it will have been 'well ventilated' in it's travel over from Rouen people would still have been concerned for their health. People have different levels at which they feel sick. Personally it just seemed like an oily engine smell in the air here in Poole. Wasn't it a few years ago we had the smell of manure from the German (or French?) farmers spreading on their fields. Shame these things are never pleasant odours! When are we going to etract revenge with our own formula? canfordcherry
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10:32am Wed 23 Jan 13

hamworthygirl says...

That explains the strong smell of gas near me yesterday.
That explains the strong smell of gas near me yesterday. hamworthygirl
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10:36am Wed 23 Jan 13

Buddles says...

canfordcherry wrote:
T-butyl Mercaptan should be handled with care even in well ventilated areas not due to it's toxicity but due to it's foul smell. This is because it can cause nausea in people. Although it will have been 'well ventilated' in it's travel over from Rouen people would still have been concerned for their health. People have different levels at which they feel sick. Personally it just seemed like an oily engine smell in the air here in Poole. Wasn't it a few years ago we had the smell of manure from the German (or French?) farmers spreading on their fields. Shame these things are never pleasant odours! When are we going to etract revenge with our own formula?
I think people have different perceptions of smell.
Like Canfordcherry says, it was more of an oily, coal tar type smell. It certainly didn't smell like the additive to domestic gas, so I dismissed the possibility of a gas leak. In fact I thought that maybe there had been an incident at Fawley refinery until I Googled it.
[quote][p][bold]canfordcherry[/bold] wrote: T-butyl Mercaptan should be handled with care even in well ventilated areas not due to it's toxicity but due to it's foul smell. This is because it can cause nausea in people. Although it will have been 'well ventilated' in it's travel over from Rouen people would still have been concerned for their health. People have different levels at which they feel sick. Personally it just seemed like an oily engine smell in the air here in Poole. Wasn't it a few years ago we had the smell of manure from the German (or French?) farmers spreading on their fields. Shame these things are never pleasant odours! When are we going to etract revenge with our own formula?[/p][/quote]I think people have different perceptions of smell. Like Canfordcherry says, it was more of an oily, coal tar type smell. It certainly didn't smell like the additive to domestic gas, so I dismissed the possibility of a gas leak. In fact I thought that maybe there had been an incident at Fawley refinery until I Googled it. Buddles
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10:42am Wed 23 Jan 13

alasdair1967 says...

Gross incompetence on both sides here was the gas engineer not aware of the leak in France ,it was all over the news bulletins yesterday and as someone earlier stated seconds on google would have found the answer maybe the snow flurries around that time added to the schools concerns KNEEJERK reaction
Gross incompetence on both sides here was the gas engineer not aware of the leak in France ,it was all over the news bulletins yesterday and as someone earlier stated seconds on google would have found the answer maybe the snow flurries around that time added to the schools concerns KNEEJERK reaction alasdair1967
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10:42am Wed 23 Jan 13

alasdair1967 says...

Gross incompetence on both sides here was the gas engineer not aware of the leak in France ,it was all over the news bulletins yesterday and as someone earlier stated seconds on google would have found the answer maybe the snow flurries around that time added to the schools concerns KNEEJERK reaction
Gross incompetence on both sides here was the gas engineer not aware of the leak in France ,it was all over the news bulletins yesterday and as someone earlier stated seconds on google would have found the answer maybe the snow flurries around that time added to the schools concerns KNEEJERK reaction alasdair1967
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10:57am Wed 23 Jan 13

l'anglais says...

No smell here in Paris today.
Must be due to that giant fan they installed in South East Rouen yesterday.
No smell here in Paris today. Must be due to that giant fan they installed in South East Rouen yesterday. l'anglais
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12:04pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Carolyn43 says...

alasdair1967 wrote:
Gross incompetence on both sides here was the gas engineer not aware of the leak in France ,it was all over the news bulletins yesterday and as someone earlier stated seconds on google would have found the answer maybe the snow flurries around that time added to the schools concerns KNEEJERK reaction
So it was totally impossible that there was a gas leak at the school at the same time?
[quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: Gross incompetence on both sides here was the gas engineer not aware of the leak in France ,it was all over the news bulletins yesterday and as someone earlier stated seconds on google would have found the answer maybe the snow flurries around that time added to the schools concerns KNEEJERK reaction[/p][/quote]So it was totally impossible that there was a gas leak at the school at the same time? Carolyn43
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12:33pm Wed 23 Jan 13

TinyLegacy says...

Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?
Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school? TinyLegacy
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1:03pm Wed 23 Jan 13

polblagger says...

TinyLegacy wrote:
Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?
Nice try at playing the 'what if' game.

If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast?

What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms?

Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe.

Ridiculous comment.
[quote][p][bold]TinyLegacy[/bold] wrote: Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?[/p][/quote]Nice try at playing the 'what if' game. If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast? What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms? Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe. Ridiculous comment. polblagger
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1:43pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Phixer says...

polblagger wrote:
TinyLegacy wrote:
Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?
Nice try at playing the 'what if' game.

If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast?

What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms?

Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe.

Ridiculous comment.
Interesting that the smell of gas travelled all the way from Paris, along the south coast, and it wasn't until it reached Kinson that someone panic'd.
[quote][p][bold]polblagger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TinyLegacy[/bold] wrote: Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?[/p][/quote]Nice try at playing the 'what if' game. If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast? What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms? Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe. Ridiculous comment.[/p][/quote]Interesting that the smell of gas travelled all the way from Paris, along the south coast, and it wasn't until it reached Kinson that someone panic'd. Phixer
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1:43pm Wed 23 Jan 13

alasdair1967 says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
alasdair1967 wrote:
Gross incompetence on both sides here was the gas engineer not aware of the leak in France ,it was all over the news bulletins yesterday and as someone earlier stated seconds on google would have found the answer maybe the snow flurries around that time added to the schools concerns KNEEJERK reaction
So it was totally impossible that there was a gas leak at the school at the same time?
The same odour that has been covering the majority of the south coast since yesterday
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: Gross incompetence on both sides here was the gas engineer not aware of the leak in France ,it was all over the news bulletins yesterday and as someone earlier stated seconds on google would have found the answer maybe the snow flurries around that time added to the schools concerns KNEEJERK reaction[/p][/quote]So it was totally impossible that there was a gas leak at the school at the same time?[/p][/quote]The same odour that has been covering the majority of the south coast since yesterday alasdair1967
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1:54pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Bournesouthmouth Downpokes says...

seems we have been commenting on the wrong thread (yesterday's news, today's "olds). was obliviously to all this as my child was off sick yesterday. here's what we wrote on the other article...

1) Regarding this "tramp about town".
Probably you are a tramp using the library
computers to spout off this utter ignorant
nonsense!
Listen if you don't have children (who are
at school) it should be suggested that you
don't even get involved on a comments
section regarding children... ”

2) Agreed in some ways a lot of today's
youth is disrespectful and out of control,
with no manners. I'll give you that. I put
this down to bad parenting though.
Now, in other ways, back in the day when
the tolly was used in school, and there
was less of this "health and safety"
protocol football hooliganism was rife
(even even during the 70's and 80's let
alone the 90's). Nowadays this is mostly a
thing of the past.
Plus my son went to a very strict, zero
tolerance, no holds barred, all boys
catholic school in the 80's. My point, this
school, along with most other local
schools were full of bullies, very
boisterous and having fights with other
schools, etc.
So you can not ever really fault a school
saying the way contributes to today's
society. Just a thought. Think before you
speak. Stop reading the Daily Mail! ”

3) scrumpyjack wrote:
I hate 'over the top' safety.
But you would have to be an utter fool to
ignore the smell of gas.
Just put 'gas explosion' under google
images.
If people are in school all day how are
they expected to know about something
that was reported in the news during the
day?
In my opinion there are 2 trolls working
today.
And this from somebody who is normally
in the frame.
Very commendable coming from you
Grumpy Jack. Hats off to you sir for
seeing the light ;-) ”
seems we have been commenting on the wrong thread (yesterday's news, today's "olds). was obliviously to all this as my child was off sick yesterday. here's what we wrote on the other article... 1) Regarding this "tramp about town". Probably you are a tramp using the library computers to spout off this utter ignorant nonsense! Listen if you don't have children (who are at school) it should be suggested that you don't even get involved on a comments section regarding children... ” 2) Agreed in some ways a lot of today's youth is disrespectful and out of control, with no manners. I'll give you that. I put this down to bad parenting though. Now, in other ways, back in the day when the tolly was used in school, and there was less of this "health and safety" protocol football hooliganism was rife (even even during the 70's and 80's let alone the 90's). Nowadays this is mostly a thing of the past. Plus my son went to a very strict, zero tolerance, no holds barred, all boys catholic school in the 80's. My point, this school, along with most other local schools were full of bullies, very boisterous and having fights with other schools, etc. So you can not ever really fault a school saying the way contributes to today's society. Just a thought. Think before you speak. Stop reading the Daily Mail! ” 3) scrumpyjack wrote: I hate 'over the top' safety. But you would have to be an utter fool to ignore the smell of gas. Just put 'gas explosion' under google images. If people are in school all day how are they expected to know about something that was reported in the news during the day? In my opinion there are 2 trolls working today. And this from somebody who is normally in the frame. Very commendable coming from you Grumpy Jack. Hats off to you sir for seeing the light ;-) ” Bournesouthmouth Downpokes
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1:57pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Bournesouthmouth Downpokes says...

Get a life people!!!

NOT EVERY ONE IS GLUED TO BBC NEWS 24/7. WE AS A HOUSEHOLD, FOR ONE, DON'T EVEN HAVE LIVE TV (Not stupid enough to pay for a "TV License" as we don't ourselves as sheeple)
Get a life people!!! NOT EVERY ONE IS GLUED TO BBC NEWS 24/7. WE AS A HOUSEHOLD, FOR ONE, DON'T EVEN HAVE LIVE TV (Not stupid enough to pay for a "TV License" as we don't ourselves as sheeple) Bournesouthmouth Downpokes
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1:58pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Bournesouthmouth Downpokes says...

*we don't COUNT ouslrselves as sheeple (no pun intended)
*we don't COUNT ouslrselves as sheeple (no pun intended) Bournesouthmouth Downpokes
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2:11pm Wed 23 Jan 13

HRH of Boscombe says...

l'anglais wrote:
No smell here in Paris today. Must be due to that giant fan they installed in South East Rouen yesterday.
With 10 million french people I find that hard to believe.
[quote][p][bold]l'anglais[/bold] wrote: No smell here in Paris today. Must be due to that giant fan they installed in South East Rouen yesterday.[/p][/quote]With 10 million french people I find that hard to believe. HRH of Boscombe
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2:27pm Wed 23 Jan 13

whataboutthat says...

Good job it wasn't a nuclear 'cloud' leak - just how many nuclear power stations does France have on the Cherbourg/Normandy coastline - four or five? Thanks EDF.
Good job it wasn't a nuclear 'cloud' leak - just how many nuclear power stations does France have on the Cherbourg/Normandy coastline - four or five? Thanks EDF. whataboutthat
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2:52pm Wed 23 Jan 13

guisselle says...

Buy yourself some Febreeze spray
that'll do the trick!

Eloise Fabreeze (sneeze)
Buy yourself some Febreeze spray that'll do the trick! Eloise Fabreeze (sneeze) guisselle
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3:08pm Wed 23 Jan 13

TinyLegacy says...

polblagger wrote:
TinyLegacy wrote:
Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?
Nice try at playing the 'what if' game.

If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast?

What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms?

Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe.

Ridiculous comment.
You sir, are an idiot. Or troll, which is more likely.

Next time someone smells gas, no matter where they are, it's best they find the nearest internet connection and get on Google, right?
[quote][p][bold]polblagger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TinyLegacy[/bold] wrote: Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?[/p][/quote]Nice try at playing the 'what if' game. If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast? What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms? Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe. Ridiculous comment.[/p][/quote]You sir, are an idiot. Or troll, which is more likely. Next time someone smells gas, no matter where they are, it's best they find the nearest internet connection and get on Google, right? TinyLegacy
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3:25pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Hessenford says...

TinyLegacy wrote:
polblagger wrote:
TinyLegacy wrote:
Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?
Nice try at playing the 'what if' game.

If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast?

What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms?

Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe.

Ridiculous comment.
You sir, are an idiot. Or troll, which is more likely.

Next time someone smells gas, no matter where they are, it's best they find the nearest internet connection and get on Google, right?
Why is it when ever somebody has a different opinion to certain commenter's on here they are branded trolls by the same old faces, freedom of speech is a wonderful right which people like TinyLegacy would like to be taken away.
[quote][p][bold]TinyLegacy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]polblagger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TinyLegacy[/bold] wrote: Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?[/p][/quote]Nice try at playing the 'what if' game. If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast? What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms? Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe. Ridiculous comment.[/p][/quote]You sir, are an idiot. Or troll, which is more likely. Next time someone smells gas, no matter where they are, it's best they find the nearest internet connection and get on Google, right?[/p][/quote]Why is it when ever somebody has a different opinion to certain commenter's on here they are branded trolls by the same old faces, freedom of speech is a wonderful right which people like TinyLegacy would like to be taken away. Hessenford
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3:39pm Wed 23 Jan 13

tramp_about_town says...

This is the second day this has happened! We were debating this yesterday until some of the usual crowd came along slinging insults.

This is totally unacceptable! Just think of the children and how their education must be suffering.

This school should be investigated by OFSTED immediately to dicover what on earth is going on.
This is the second day this has happened! We were debating this yesterday until some of the usual crowd came along slinging insults. This is totally unacceptable! Just think of the children and how their education must be suffering. This school should be investigated by OFSTED immediately to dicover what on earth is going on. tramp_about_town
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4:04pm Wed 23 Jan 13

TinyLegacy says...

Hessenford wrote:
TinyLegacy wrote:
polblagger wrote:
TinyLegacy wrote:
Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?
Nice try at playing the 'what if' game.

If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast?

What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms?

Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe.

Ridiculous comment.
You sir, are an idiot. Or troll, which is more likely.

Next time someone smells gas, no matter where they are, it's best they find the nearest internet connection and get on Google, right?
Why is it when ever somebody has a different opinion to certain commenter's on here they are branded trolls by the same old faces, freedom of speech is a wonderful right which people like TinyLegacy would like to be taken away.
So now you're having a go because im a communist? Not very democratic of you...
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TinyLegacy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]polblagger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TinyLegacy[/bold] wrote: Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?[/p][/quote]Nice try at playing the 'what if' game. If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast? What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms? Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe. Ridiculous comment.[/p][/quote]You sir, are an idiot. Or troll, which is more likely. Next time someone smells gas, no matter where they are, it's best they find the nearest internet connection and get on Google, right?[/p][/quote]Why is it when ever somebody has a different opinion to certain commenter's on here they are branded trolls by the same old faces, freedom of speech is a wonderful right which people like TinyLegacy would like to be taken away.[/p][/quote]So now you're having a go because im a communist? Not very democratic of you... TinyLegacy
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4:07pm Wed 23 Jan 13

O'Reilly says...

Wesoblind wrote:
i dont believe it was not toxic for one second! lets face it heilium is dangerous to breath in!
Yep....it makes you talk and sing like Alvin from the Chipmunks.
[quote][p][bold]Wesoblind[/bold] wrote: i dont believe it was not toxic for one second! lets face it heilium is dangerous to breath in![/p][/quote]Yep....it makes you talk and sing like Alvin from the Chipmunks. O'Reilly
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4:13pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Hessenford says...

TinyLegacy wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
TinyLegacy wrote:
polblagger wrote:
TinyLegacy wrote:
Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?
Nice try at playing the 'what if' game.

If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast?

What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms?

Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe.

Ridiculous comment.
You sir, are an idiot. Or troll, which is more likely.

Next time someone smells gas, no matter where they are, it's best they find the nearest internet connection and get on Google, right?
Why is it when ever somebody has a different opinion to certain commenter's on here they are branded trolls by the same old faces, freedom of speech is a wonderful right which people like TinyLegacy would like to be taken away.
So now you're having a go because im a communist? Not very democratic of you...
Not having a go, posing a question, your reaction to others comments by way of insults leads one to believe that you do not want others to speak freely, especially when they don't agree with your statements.
[quote][p][bold]TinyLegacy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TinyLegacy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]polblagger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TinyLegacy[/bold] wrote: Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?[/p][/quote]Nice try at playing the 'what if' game. If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast? What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms? Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe. Ridiculous comment.[/p][/quote]You sir, are an idiot. Or troll, which is more likely. Next time someone smells gas, no matter where they are, it's best they find the nearest internet connection and get on Google, right?[/p][/quote]Why is it when ever somebody has a different opinion to certain commenter's on here they are branded trolls by the same old faces, freedom of speech is a wonderful right which people like TinyLegacy would like to be taken away.[/p][/quote]So now you're having a go because im a communist? Not very democratic of you...[/p][/quote]Not having a go, posing a question, your reaction to others comments by way of insults leads one to believe that you do not want others to speak freely, especially when they don't agree with your statements. Hessenford
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4:32pm Wed 23 Jan 13

TinyLegacy says...

Well now you're just jumping to conclusions.
Well now you're just jumping to conclusions. TinyLegacy
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4:35pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Hessenford says...

TinyLegacy wrote:
Well now you're just jumping to conclusions.
Well prove me wrong and I will apologise, stop calling people trolls just because they have an alternative view to yours.
[quote][p][bold]TinyLegacy[/bold] wrote: Well now you're just jumping to conclusions.[/p][/quote]Well prove me wrong and I will apologise, stop calling people trolls just because they have an alternative view to yours. Hessenford
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4:37pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Hessenford says...

tramp_about_town wrote:
This is the second day this has happened! We were debating this yesterday until some of the usual crowd came along slinging insults.

This is totally unacceptable! Just think of the children and how their education must be suffering.

This school should be investigated by OFSTED immediately to dicover what on earth is going on.
Well said, first snow the gas, what else can the think up for a triple whammy.
[quote][p][bold]tramp_about_town[/bold] wrote: This is the second day this has happened! We were debating this yesterday until some of the usual crowd came along slinging insults. This is totally unacceptable! Just think of the children and how their education must be suffering. This school should be investigated by OFSTED immediately to dicover what on earth is going on.[/p][/quote]Well said, first snow the gas, what else can the think up for a triple whammy. Hessenford
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4:44pm Wed 23 Jan 13

TinyLegacy says...

Hessenford wrote:
TinyLegacy wrote:
Well now you're just jumping to conclusions.
Well prove me wrong and I will apologise, stop calling people trolls just because they have an alternative view to yours.
Sorry, how often do I do this? That's rhetorical BTW, I care not for your answer. I am always right.
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TinyLegacy[/bold] wrote: Well now you're just jumping to conclusions.[/p][/quote]Well prove me wrong and I will apologise, stop calling people trolls just because they have an alternative view to yours.[/p][/quote]Sorry, how often do I do this? That's rhetorical BTW, I care not for your answer. I am always right. TinyLegacy
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4:51pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Hessenford says...

TinyLegacy wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
TinyLegacy wrote:
Well now you're just jumping to conclusions.
Well prove me wrong and I will apologise, stop calling people trolls just because they have an alternative view to yours.
Sorry, how often do I do this? That's rhetorical BTW, I care not for your answer. I am always right.
Just as I thought, a bigot.
[quote][p][bold]TinyLegacy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TinyLegacy[/bold] wrote: Well now you're just jumping to conclusions.[/p][/quote]Well prove me wrong and I will apologise, stop calling people trolls just because they have an alternative view to yours.[/p][/quote]Sorry, how often do I do this? That's rhetorical BTW, I care not for your answer. I am always right.[/p][/quote]Just as I thought, a bigot. Hessenford
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5:11pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Bournesouthmouth Downpokes says...

Hessenford wrote:
tramp_about_town wrote:
This is the second day this has happened! We were debating this yesterday until some of the usual crowd came along slinging insults.

This is totally unacceptable! Just think of the children and how their education must be suffering.

This school should be investigated by OFSTED immediately to dicover what on earth is going on.
Well said, first snow the gas, what else can the think up for a triple whammy.
Two of a kind you both are, definitely either trolls or plain idiotic.

Childrens' education suffering??? This school be invesigated by OFSTED???
Because they were evacuated 30 minutes earlier than the usual bell?

You should be investigated by mental health!
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tramp_about_town[/bold] wrote: This is the second day this has happened! We were debating this yesterday until some of the usual crowd came along slinging insults. This is totally unacceptable! Just think of the children and how their education must be suffering. This school should be investigated by OFSTED immediately to dicover what on earth is going on.[/p][/quote]Well said, first snow the gas, what else can the think up for a triple whammy.[/p][/quote]Two of a kind you both are, definitely either trolls or plain idiotic. Childrens' education suffering??? This school be invesigated by OFSTED??? Because they were evacuated 30 minutes earlier than the usual bell? You should be investigated by mental health! Bournesouthmouth Downpokes
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5:32pm Wed 23 Jan 13

muscliffman says...

So how did this school contact parents about the 'suspected' explosive gas leak on their premises.

Electronically - by text it reports above, when presumably the kids were still on site. (Clue - they ask you to turn off phones at petrol stations because....)

'nuff said' in the circumstances I think.
So how did this school contact parents about the 'suspected' explosive gas leak on their premises. Electronically - by text it reports above, when presumably the kids were still on site. (Clue - they ask you to turn off phones at petrol stations because....) 'nuff said' in the circumstances I think. muscliffman
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5:38pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Hessenford says...

How many other schools shut in this area because of this smell, how many schools between Kinson and the coast didn't shut, why was it only one school that could smell the gas.
How many other schools shut in this area because of this smell, how many schools between Kinson and the coast didn't shut, why was it only one school that could smell the gas. Hessenford
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5:44pm Wed 23 Jan 13

skydriver says...

Did schools in France close?, no because there was no panic, it's only the UK when hysteria sets in. And another day off for the teachers, and the head.what have we become!
Did schools in France close?, no because there was no panic, it's only the UK when hysteria sets in. And another day off for the teachers, and the head.what have we become! skydriver
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6:02pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Ophilum says...

To my mind it says what a lot of daft types run these schools probably all headmistresses with there heads in the clouds,
To my mind it says what a lot of daft types run these schools probably all headmistresses with there heads in the clouds, Ophilum
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6:17pm Wed 23 Jan 13

muscliffman says...

Hessenford wrote:
How many other schools shut in this area because of this smell, how many schools between Kinson and the coast didn't shut, why was it only one school that could smell the gas.
Another fair point - but judging by the ignorance on here best to put your comments 'tin hat' on anyway!

I am quite near this School and I could smell an odour that was somewhere between stale diesel and old sweat (nice!).

The artficial smell put into UK gas seems to be very different to the 'flavour' used by the French. (This gas, UK or French, has no natural odour).

I did not for one moment suspect a domestic UK gas leak and neither evidently did the vast - and clearly more enlightened in so many ways - majority.

Good intentions - no doubt. Got it wrong - proven without a doubt.
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: How many other schools shut in this area because of this smell, how many schools between Kinson and the coast didn't shut, why was it only one school that could smell the gas.[/p][/quote]Another fair point - but judging by the ignorance on here best to put your comments 'tin hat' on anyway! I am quite near this School and I could smell an odour that was somewhere between stale diesel and old sweat (nice!). The artficial smell put into UK gas seems to be very different to the 'flavour' used by the French. (This gas, UK or French, has no natural odour). I did not for one moment suspect a domestic UK gas leak and neither evidently did the vast - and clearly more enlightened in so many ways - majority. Good intentions - no doubt. Got it wrong - proven without a doubt. muscliffman
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6:43pm Wed 23 Jan 13

Carolyn43 says...

tramp_about_town wrote:
This is the second day this has happened! We were debating this yesterday until some of the usual crowd came along slinging insults.

This is totally unacceptable! Just think of the children and how their education must be suffering.

This school should be investigated by OFSTED immediately to dicover what on earth is going on.
What are you on about? This is the second day this has happened? This is another report of what happened YESTERDAY.
[quote][p][bold]tramp_about_town[/bold] wrote: This is the second day this has happened! We were debating this yesterday until some of the usual crowd came along slinging insults. This is totally unacceptable! Just think of the children and how their education must be suffering. This school should be investigated by OFSTED immediately to dicover what on earth is going on.[/p][/quote]What are you on about? This is the second day this has happened? This is another report of what happened YESTERDAY. Carolyn43
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10:24pm Wed 23 Jan 13

spooki says...

TinyLegacy wrote:
polblagger wrote:
TinyLegacy wrote:
Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?
Nice try at playing the 'what if' game.

If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast?

What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms?

Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe.

Ridiculous comment.
You sir, are an idiot. Or troll, which is more likely.

Next time someone smells gas, no matter where they are, it's best they find the nearest internet connection and get on Google, right?
But they couldn't switch on the leccy for their wi-fi box in case it was a home gas leak...but then again they're too busy trolling on here to think about things like that, you know, safety and such.
[quote][p][bold]TinyLegacy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]polblagger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TinyLegacy[/bold] wrote: Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?[/p][/quote]Nice try at playing the 'what if' game. If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast? What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms? Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe. Ridiculous comment.[/p][/quote]You sir, are an idiot. Or troll, which is more likely. Next time someone smells gas, no matter where they are, it's best they find the nearest internet connection and get on Google, right?[/p][/quote]But they couldn't switch on the leccy for their wi-fi box in case it was a home gas leak...but then again they're too busy trolling on here to think about things like that, you know, safety and such. spooki
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10:42pm Wed 23 Jan 13

l'anglais says...

whataboutthat wrote:
Good job it wasn't a nuclear 'cloud' leak - just how many nuclear power stations does France have on the Cherbourg/Normandy coastline - four or five? Thanks EDF.
The clue is Electricité de France.

Now if you want to sell your national assets, no point griping when a competent foreigner comes along and cleans up your mess.

I heard the good news about the "British" export figures for Car sales.
What was exported?
British Leyland?
Morris?
Austin?
E Type?
[quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: Good job it wasn't a nuclear 'cloud' leak - just how many nuclear power stations does France have on the Cherbourg/Normandy coastline - four or five? Thanks EDF.[/p][/quote]The clue is Electricité de France. Now if you want to sell your national assets, no point griping when a competent foreigner comes along and cleans up your mess. I heard the good news about the "British" export figures for Car sales. What was exported? British Leyland? Morris? Austin? E Type? l'anglais
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8:26am Thu 24 Jan 13

Carolyn43 says...

tramp_about_town wrote:
Carolyn43 wrote:
tramp_about_town wrote:
This is the second day this has happened! We were debating this yesterday until some of the usual crowd came along slinging insults.

This is totally unacceptable! Just think of the children and how their education must be suffering.

This school should be investigated by OFSTED immediately to dicover what on earth is going on.
What are you on about? This is the second day this has happened? This is another report of what happened YESTERDAY.
I don't think so. Why on earth would the Echo bother to make it the main headline today if it only happened yesterday? I know that education (or the failure to deliver should I say) is an important story but not in the context of one school!

You need to get a grip!

Another panicky person! This town/country is getting more ridiculous by the day!
Read the article. Throughout it says "yesterday". It's you who needs to get a grip, and I'm certainly not panicking - apart from the fact that I don't panick, the the ONLY incident was on TUESDAY.
[quote][p][bold]tramp_about_town[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tramp_about_town[/bold] wrote: This is the second day this has happened! We were debating this yesterday until some of the usual crowd came along slinging insults. This is totally unacceptable! Just think of the children and how their education must be suffering. This school should be investigated by OFSTED immediately to dicover what on earth is going on.[/p][/quote]What are you on about? This is the second day this has happened? This is another report of what happened YESTERDAY.[/p][/quote]I don't think so. Why on earth would the Echo bother to make it the main headline today if it only happened yesterday? I know that education (or the failure to deliver should I say) is an important story but not in the context of one school! You need to get a grip! Another panicky person! This town/country is getting more ridiculous by the day![/p][/quote]Read the article. Throughout it says "yesterday". It's you who needs to get a grip, and I'm certainly not panicking - apart from the fact that I don't panick, the the ONLY incident was on TUESDAY. Carolyn43
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9:32am Thu 24 Jan 13

scrumpyjack says...

Some people are starting to appear genuinely mad.....
Some people are starting to appear genuinely mad..... scrumpyjack
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9:48am Thu 24 Jan 13

retry69 says...

The latter part of last year a few commenters labellled Bournemouth as the murder capital of the south,i suggest that due to the recent comments on our snowfall and now this, perhaps the paranoia capital of the south be more apt
The latter part of last year a few commenters labellled Bournemouth as the murder capital of the south,i suggest that due to the recent comments on our snowfall and now this, perhaps the paranoia capital of the south be more apt retry69
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10:34am Thu 24 Jan 13

polblagger says...

TinyLegacy wrote:
polblagger wrote:
TinyLegacy wrote:
Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?
Nice try at playing the 'what if' game.

If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast?

What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms?

Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe.

Ridiculous comment.
You sir, are an idiot. Or troll, which is more likely.

Next time someone smells gas, no matter where they are, it's best they find the nearest internet connection and get on Google, right?
I had hoped to not need to point out the blatantly obvious.

This is a chemical leak that started in France.

How on earth could a group of educators fail to distinguish the level of concentration being stronger OUTSIDE the building rather than INSIDE.

If I was responsible for children's safety, far from pushing them into the concentrated area I'd be inclined to keep them inside.
[quote][p][bold]TinyLegacy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]polblagger[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TinyLegacy[/bold] wrote: Dear lord there are some fools on here. 'Better to be safe than sorry' ring a bell? Or would you relish in dealing with a potential gas explosion at a school?[/p][/quote]Nice try at playing the 'what if' game. If we're going to play that, what if the gas smell was coming from a property in Kinson Road or School Lane and evacuating children and parents were caught out in the open, directly in the blast? What if they'd been kept at a safe distance in their classrooms? Making decisions based on no information is like tossing a coin, you can as easily place children in harms way as you can keep them safe. Ridiculous comment.[/p][/quote]You sir, are an idiot. Or troll, which is more likely. Next time someone smells gas, no matter where they are, it's best they find the nearest internet connection and get on Google, right?[/p][/quote]I had hoped to not need to point out the blatantly obvious. This is a chemical leak that started in France. How on earth could a group of educators fail to distinguish the level of concentration being stronger OUTSIDE the building rather than INSIDE. If I was responsible for children's safety, far from pushing them into the concentrated area I'd be inclined to keep them inside. polblagger
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2:15pm Thu 24 Jan 13

kingstonpaul says...

HRH of Boscombe wrote:
l'anglais wrote:
No smell here in Paris today. Must be due to that giant fan they installed in South East Rouen yesterday.
With 10 million french people I find that hard to believe.
Oh dear HRH, you must be so embarrassed you penned this little retort. OK, laugh out loud folks at his masterfully crafted piece of rib-aching, side-splitting humour. Perhaps you thought it was smart, a bit cutting-edge? Or, perhaps you spend too much time in your bedroom, staring at your computer screen, and picking up all such puerile nonsense. You should get out more often.

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[quote][p][bold]HRH of Boscombe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]l'anglais[/bold] wrote: No smell here in Paris today. Must be due to that giant fan they installed in South East Rouen yesterday.[/p][/quote]With 10 million french people I find that hard to believe.[/p][/quote]Oh dear HRH, you must be so embarrassed you penned this little retort. OK, laugh out loud folks at his masterfully crafted piece of rib-aching, side-splitting humour. Perhaps you thought it was smart, a bit cutting-edge? Or, perhaps you spend too much time in your bedroom, staring at your computer screen, and picking up all such puerile nonsense. You should get out more often. . kingstonpaul
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