Chaos as A338 closed at Springbourne after accident

Bournemouth Echo: A338 closed at Springbourne after accident A338 closed at Springbourne after accident

TWO people had a lucky escape after their car was sandwiched in a multi-vehicle smash on the Wessex Way last night.

The collision caused traffic chaos across the area as motorists struggled to find alternative routes to avoid the A338, which was closed at Springbourne roundabout for about an hour.
 

The driver and passenger of the silver Smart car had to be cut free from the vehicle as a result of the three-car collision, which took place just before the Cooper Dean slip road around 4pm.

Police were forced to close the northbound carriageway at Springbourne roundabout to Cooper Dean as three fire crews worked to free the pair, who were taken to hospital by ambulance.

Their injuries are not believed to be serious although one of the casualties was removed on a spinal board.

Alternative routes quickly became congested with rush hour traffic backed up to County Gates roundabout while Richmond Park Road and Charminster Road were also at a standstill as drivers struggled to avoid the tailbacks.

Ashley Road in Boscombe and Castle Lane were also affected by the incident.

One motorist said: “It's a nightmare. Whatever route you take, it's snarled up, the tailbacks are horrendous.

“Whichever way you go, you're going to get stuck.”

The accident, which took place in lane one, just before the Cooper Dean turn off, closed the road for around an hour as firefighters worked to extract the pair by removing the doors of the car.

One driver, the first in the queue on the Wessex Way, said: “Police told us to turn our engine off and didn't say how long it would be.

“We can see the fire engines and police cars and ambulances in front of us but nothing is moving.

“Fire crews are having to cut out two people and we can see one in an ambulance.

“All the cars are just bunched up together.”

Police opened the road around 5.15pm.

The Smart car and the Toyota were both recovered.

 

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4:36pm Wed 12 Dec 12

EGHH says...

Is this anything to do with the continual failure of the traffic lights there?
Is this anything to do with the continual failure of the traffic lights there? EGHH
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4:38pm Wed 12 Dec 12

politicaltrainspotter says...

Looking from my front window,traffic in all direction at a standstill.
Looking from my front window,traffic in all direction at a standstill. politicaltrainspotter
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5:38pm Wed 12 Dec 12

lionheart says...

Is pin B on your map supposed to be the site of the accident?

If it is it should be at the Cooper Dean intersection!

Bit late now I know but surely you should check first?
Is pin B on your map supposed to be the site of the accident? If it is it should be at the Cooper Dean intersection! Bit late now I know but surely you should check first? lionheart
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5:39pm Wed 12 Dec 12

lionheart says...

Forget that. I've just expanded the map.
Forget that. I've just expanded the map. lionheart
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6:07pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Phixer says...

EGHH wrote:
Is this anything to do with the continual failure of the traffic lights there?
Why should it? And twice in one week is hardly 'continual'.

One does exagerate.
[quote][p][bold]EGHH[/bold] wrote: Is this anything to do with the continual failure of the traffic lights there?[/p][/quote]Why should it? And twice in one week is hardly 'continual'. One does exagerate. Phixer
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6:24pm Wed 12 Dec 12

corozin says...

Just by the speed cameras. Again.
Just by the speed cameras. Again. corozin
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7:01pm Wed 12 Dec 12

b26b says...

Would not want to be in a Smart car in a prang. I hope those that were involved recover.
Why does it take so long for a road to re-open after a crash? And why did they have to park a car on the slip road with lights going and two coppers inside doing nothing? I think you could speed up the process up after a crash.The Police need to be a bit more proactive.Get the casaulties sorted, mess cleaned up and road opened as a matter of urgency.
Would not want to be in a Smart car in a prang. I hope those that were involved recover. Why does it take so long for a road to re-open after a crash? And why did they have to park a car on the slip road with lights going and two coppers inside doing nothing? I think you could speed up the process up after a crash.The Police need to be a bit more proactive.Get the casaulties sorted, mess cleaned up and road opened as a matter of urgency. b26b
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7:59pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Bmthanon says...

b26b wrote:
Would not want to be in a Smart car in a prang. I hope those that were involved recover.
Why does it take so long for a road to re-open after a crash? And why did they have to park a car on the slip road with lights going and two coppers inside doing nothing? I think you could speed up the process up after a crash.The Police need to be a bit more proactive.Get the casaulties sorted, mess cleaned up and road opened as a matter of urgency.
The police were brilliant actually it takes time for fire crew to cut people out of a car!!! And had nothing to do with the speed camera it was passed there, It was only closed for about an hour and a half.
[quote][p][bold]b26b[/bold] wrote: Would not want to be in a Smart car in a prang. I hope those that were involved recover. Why does it take so long for a road to re-open after a crash? And why did they have to park a car on the slip road with lights going and two coppers inside doing nothing? I think you could speed up the process up after a crash.The Police need to be a bit more proactive.Get the casaulties sorted, mess cleaned up and road opened as a matter of urgency.[/p][/quote]The police were brilliant actually it takes time for fire crew to cut people out of a car!!! And had nothing to do with the speed camera it was passed there, It was only closed for about an hour and a half. Bmthanon
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10:44pm Wed 12 Dec 12

The Renegade Master says...

I'm surprised the Police didn't close the road for six hours just to cause maximum chaos to the town.
I'm surprised the Police didn't close the road for six hours just to cause maximum chaos to the town. The Renegade Master
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11:23pm Wed 12 Dec 12

GAHmusic says...

Well it's 11:30pm and I'm off to bed. The headlines says "updated, chaos" so if it's still chaos by the morning I'm staying in bed
Well it's 11:30pm and I'm off to bed. The headlines says "updated, chaos" so if it's still chaos by the morning I'm staying in bed GAHmusic
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12:47am Thu 13 Dec 12

stevehiggi says...

b26b wrote:
Would not want to be in a Smart car in a prang. I hope those that were involved recover.
Why does it take so long for a road to re-open after a crash? And why did they have to park a car on the slip road with lights going and two coppers inside doing nothing? I think you could speed up the process up after a crash.The Police need to be a bit more proactive.Get the casaulties sorted, mess cleaned up and road opened as a matter of urgency.
Actually Smart cars are safer than you think.
[quote][p][bold]b26b[/bold] wrote: Would not want to be in a Smart car in a prang. I hope those that were involved recover. Why does it take so long for a road to re-open after a crash? And why did they have to park a car on the slip road with lights going and two coppers inside doing nothing? I think you could speed up the process up after a crash.The Police need to be a bit more proactive.Get the casaulties sorted, mess cleaned up and road opened as a matter of urgency.[/p][/quote]Actually Smart cars are safer than you think. stevehiggi
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6:05am Thu 13 Dec 12

retry69 says...

As normal hardly any praise for the emergency services who have to deal with the aftermath of accidents also this sort of discussion brings out the comments from certain road users who in my opinion are the worst nightmares of others the "i know it all" they are the accidents waiting to happen and would be the first to fail any retest yet and when their opinion is challenged they resort to abusive remarks PATHETIC
As normal hardly any praise for the emergency services who have to deal with the aftermath of accidents also this sort of discussion brings out the comments from certain road users who in my opinion are the worst nightmares of others the "i know it all" they are the accidents waiting to happen and would be the first to fail any retest yet and when their opinion is challenged they resort to abusive remarks PATHETIC retry69
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7:35am Thu 13 Dec 12

retry69 says...

Huey wrote:
Some feeble minded idiot with limited driving abilities rear ends another car, and a large town ginds to a halt....
When you bear in mind the number of hours and cost of fuel wasted it is worth banning the driver who caused the accident for life to make sure they can't balls everything up again in the future.
Just for research purposes and future reference i dont suppose you would share you age and how long you been driving with us?
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Some feeble minded idiot with limited driving abilities rear ends another car, and a large town ginds to a halt.... When you bear in mind the number of hours and cost of fuel wasted it is worth banning the driver who caused the accident for life to make sure they can't balls everything up again in the future.[/p][/quote]Just for research purposes and future reference i dont suppose you would share you age and how long you been driving with us? retry69
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8:19am Thu 13 Dec 12

Bmthanon says...

retry69 wrote:
As normal hardly any praise for the emergency services who have to deal with the aftermath of accidents also this sort of discussion brings out the comments from certain road users who in my opinion are the worst nightmares of others the "i know it all" they are the accidents waiting to happen and would be the first to fail any retest yet and when their opinion is challenged they resort to abusive remarks PATHETIC
Exactly!!! I tried to say how well it was handled but people always have an oppinion even if they were not there.
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: As normal hardly any praise for the emergency services who have to deal with the aftermath of accidents also this sort of discussion brings out the comments from certain road users who in my opinion are the worst nightmares of others the "i know it all" they are the accidents waiting to happen and would be the first to fail any retest yet and when their opinion is challenged they resort to abusive remarks PATHETIC[/p][/quote]Exactly!!! I tried to say how well it was handled but people always have an oppinion even if they were not there. Bmthanon
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8:25am Thu 13 Dec 12

blakieboy7 says...

More bad driving in Bournemouth again!!! Conditions were fine yesterday afternoon. I hope everyone injured recovers
More bad driving in Bournemouth again!!! Conditions were fine yesterday afternoon. I hope everyone injured recovers blakieboy7
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8:30am Thu 13 Dec 12

jobsworthwatch says...

retry69 wrote:
Huey wrote:
Some feeble minded idiot with limited driving abilities rear ends another car, and a large town ginds to a halt....
When you bear in mind the number of hours and cost of fuel wasted it is worth banning the driver who caused the accident for life to make sure they can't balls everything up again in the future.
Just for research purposes and future reference i dont suppose you would share you age and how long you been driving with us?
Retry is hoping that Huey is going to admit to being over 50 and never had an accident since passing his test aged 17? If he's over 60 and never had an accident then by retrys reckoning he must be lethal!
[quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Some feeble minded idiot with limited driving abilities rear ends another car, and a large town ginds to a halt.... When you bear in mind the number of hours and cost of fuel wasted it is worth banning the driver who caused the accident for life to make sure they can't balls everything up again in the future.[/p][/quote]Just for research purposes and future reference i dont suppose you would share you age and how long you been driving with us?[/p][/quote]Retry is hoping that Huey is going to admit to being over 50 and never had an accident since passing his test aged 17? If he's over 60 and never had an accident then by retrys reckoning he must be lethal! jobsworthwatch
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9:21am Thu 13 Dec 12

retry69 says...

jobsworthwatch wrote:
retry69 wrote:
Huey wrote:
Some feeble minded idiot with limited driving abilities rear ends another car, and a large town ginds to a halt....
When you bear in mind the number of hours and cost of fuel wasted it is worth banning the driver who caused the accident for life to make sure they can't balls everything up again in the future.
Just for research purposes and future reference i dont suppose you would share you age and how long you been driving with us?
Retry is hoping that Huey is going to admit to being over 50 and never had an accident since passing his test aged 17? If he's over 60 and never had an accident then by retrys reckoning he must be lethal!
Calm down! as i said purely for research purposes, nothing else LOL
[quote][p][bold]jobsworthwatch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]retry69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Some feeble minded idiot with limited driving abilities rear ends another car, and a large town ginds to a halt.... When you bear in mind the number of hours and cost of fuel wasted it is worth banning the driver who caused the accident for life to make sure they can't balls everything up again in the future.[/p][/quote]Just for research purposes and future reference i dont suppose you would share you age and how long you been driving with us?[/p][/quote]Retry is hoping that Huey is going to admit to being over 50 and never had an accident since passing his test aged 17? If he's over 60 and never had an accident then by retrys reckoning he must be lethal![/p][/quote]Calm down! as i said purely for research purposes, nothing else LOL retry69
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9:34am Thu 13 Dec 12

super_soup says...

This isn't about the emergency services who were only doing their jobs. And, might I add a fantastic job.

This isn't about 3 cars involved in an accident - accidents happen.

This is about a town whose entire road network ground to a halt after an accident involving 3 cars.

A town whose population grew 13% between 2001 and 2011, yet I doubt the road capacity grew by the same percentage...

We need some answers from the council as to what their strategic plan is for the infrastructure of the conurbation as it's only going to get worse...
This isn't about the emergency services who were only doing their jobs. And, might I add a fantastic job. This isn't about 3 cars involved in an accident - accidents happen. This is about a town whose entire road network ground to a halt after an accident involving 3 cars. A town whose population grew 13% between 2001 and 2011, yet I doubt the road capacity grew by the same percentage... We need some answers from the council as to what their strategic plan is for the infrastructure of the conurbation as it's only going to get worse... super_soup
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10:09am Thu 13 Dec 12

mmmmmmm says...

Is it about a town full of idiots who think cars are a sensible means if transport?
Is it about a town full of idiots who think cars are a sensible means if transport? mmmmmmm
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10:44am Thu 13 Dec 12

BackOfTheNet says...

mmmmmmm wrote:
Is it about a town full of idiots who think cars are a sensible means if transport?
Yes. It's also a town full of idiots that all feel they have a right to commute at exactly the same time.

Sadly, most of them don't even realise they ARE the traffic.

Time to ban passengerless vehicles from some lanes and roads at peak times, then they'll be a bit more likely to car-share.
[quote][p][bold]mmmmmmm[/bold] wrote: Is it about a town full of idiots who think cars are a sensible means if transport?[/p][/quote]Yes. It's also a town full of idiots that all feel they have a right to commute at exactly the same time. Sadly, most of them don't even realise they ARE the traffic. Time to ban passengerless vehicles from some lanes and roads at peak times, then they'll be a bit more likely to car-share. BackOfTheNet
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11:16am Thu 13 Dec 12

tricky1007 says...

BackOfTheNet wrote:
mmmmmmm wrote:
Is it about a town full of idiots who think cars are a sensible means if transport?
Yes. It's also a town full of idiots that all feel they have a right to commute at exactly the same time.

Sadly, most of them don't even realise they ARE the traffic.

Time to ban passengerless vehicles from some lanes and roads at peak times, then they'll be a bit more likely to car-share.
what happens if your self employed and work on your own?
[quote][p][bold]BackOfTheNet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mmmmmmm[/bold] wrote: Is it about a town full of idiots who think cars are a sensible means if transport?[/p][/quote]Yes. It's also a town full of idiots that all feel they have a right to commute at exactly the same time. Sadly, most of them don't even realise they ARE the traffic. Time to ban passengerless vehicles from some lanes and roads at peak times, then they'll be a bit more likely to car-share.[/p][/quote]what happens if your self employed and work on your own? tricky1007
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12:01pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Lord Spring says...

tricky1007 wrote:
BackOfTheNet wrote:
mmmmmmm wrote:
Is it about a town full of idiots who think cars are a sensible means if transport?
Yes. It's also a town full of idiots that all feel they have a right to commute at exactly the same time.

Sadly, most of them don't even realise they ARE the traffic.

Time to ban passengerless vehicles from some lanes and roads at peak times, then they'll be a bit more likely to car-share.
what happens if your self employed and work on your own?
Buy a blow up doll and put it in the passenger seat.
But dont buy one from Derek Trotter.
[quote][p][bold]tricky1007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BackOfTheNet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mmmmmmm[/bold] wrote: Is it about a town full of idiots who think cars are a sensible means if transport?[/p][/quote]Yes. It's also a town full of idiots that all feel they have a right to commute at exactly the same time. Sadly, most of them don't even realise they ARE the traffic. Time to ban passengerless vehicles from some lanes and roads at peak times, then they'll be a bit more likely to car-share.[/p][/quote]what happens if your self employed and work on your own?[/p][/quote]Buy a blow up doll and put it in the passenger seat. But dont buy one from Derek Trotter. Lord Spring
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12:12pm Thu 13 Dec 12

BackOfTheNet says...

I'd have thought changing your hours would be easier and less embarrassing!

The majority of peak time car drivers could either car share or use public transport but refuse. These people are the traffic problem.

Anyone that doesn't take commuting onto account when moving or changing job is daft.
I'd have thought changing your hours would be easier and less embarrassing! The majority of peak time car drivers could either car share or use public transport but refuse. These people are the traffic problem. Anyone that doesn't take commuting onto account when moving or changing job is daft. BackOfTheNet
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12:48pm Thu 13 Dec 12

EscapefromBournemouth says...

As per usual, full of quotes from a bunch of wanchors. Firstly, we don't have accidents we have collisions which are normally caused by errors. Secondly, the doors could not be opened without assistance because the collision jammed them. Thirdly, as you can see, there is hardly any crumple zone at the rear of a Smart car hence the risk for greater injury when hit from the rear. Fourthly, when operating on a highway with rescue equipment and trolley cots where other road users cannot be trusted or indeed may be subject to causing a further collision due to an inability to stop rubbernecking it is unfortunate to have to stop traffic flow but imperative for the safety of emergency personnel and the casualties. And finally, just like a jigsaw, the pieces all came together being, rush hour, impending darkness, rescue operations and therefore the only answer was to close the carriageway for the shortest time possible. Local radio were giving additional updates every few minutes.....so as this thing does not happen every hour of everyday in this sleepy one horse town...grow up and deal with it...before you have an accident!
As per usual, full of quotes from a bunch of wanchors. Firstly, we don't have accidents we have collisions which are normally caused by errors. Secondly, the doors could not be opened without assistance because the collision jammed them. Thirdly, as you can see, there is hardly any crumple zone at the rear of a Smart car hence the risk for greater injury when hit from the rear. Fourthly, when operating on a highway with rescue equipment and trolley cots where other road users cannot be trusted or indeed may be subject to causing a further collision due to an inability to stop rubbernecking it is unfortunate to have to stop traffic flow but imperative for the safety of emergency personnel and the casualties. And finally, just like a jigsaw, the pieces all came together being, rush hour, impending darkness, rescue operations and therefore the only answer was to close the carriageway for the shortest time possible. Local radio were giving additional updates every few minutes.....so as this thing does not happen every hour of everyday in this sleepy one horse town...grow up and deal with it...before you have an accident! EscapefromBournemouth
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12:49pm Thu 13 Dec 12

spooki says...

mmmmmmm wrote:
Is it about a town full of idiots who think cars are a sensible means if transport?
Does 'a town full of idiots' include everyone who lives in Bournemouth? I for one am a careful driver and use Wessex Way at least once a week. I am constantly amazed by bad or aggressive drivers and what they get up to. Yes they are idiots but don't class us all the same! If you use public transport, I will just say I prefer to get to my destination of around 5 miles in less than an hour, which is how long it took the bus to get from Castlepoint to Bmth Square last time I used it.
[quote][p][bold]mmmmmmm[/bold] wrote: Is it about a town full of idiots who think cars are a sensible means if transport?[/p][/quote]Does 'a town full of idiots' include everyone who lives in Bournemouth? I for one am a careful driver and use Wessex Way at least once a week. I am constantly amazed by bad or aggressive drivers and what they get up to. Yes they are idiots but don't class us all the same! If you use public transport, I will just say I prefer to get to my destination of around 5 miles in less than an hour, which is how long it took the bus to get from Castlepoint to Bmth Square last time I used it. spooki
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1:03pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Molecatcher says...

super_soup wrote:
This isn't about the emergency services who were only doing their jobs. And, might I add a fantastic job. This isn't about 3 cars involved in an accident - accidents happen. This is about a town whose entire road network ground to a halt after an accident involving 3 cars. A town whose population grew 13% between 2001 and 2011, yet I doubt the road capacity grew by the same percentage... We need some answers from the council as to what their strategic plan is for the infrastructure of the conurbation as it's only going to get worse...
You will only get some answers from the Council if there is something in it for them. The first bit of strategy they will work out is how far they can get their fat snouts into the trough... If the answer to that is good enough, then there might be a 'plan'. The plan of course will not make sense and will be doomed to over-run in terms of budget and/or time (see stupid roundabout at Canford Bottom) but hey, who cares - it's only the tax payers money and the Councillors will have their noses in the trough. Everyone's a winner.
[quote][p][bold]super_soup[/bold] wrote: This isn't about the emergency services who were only doing their jobs. And, might I add a fantastic job. This isn't about 3 cars involved in an accident - accidents happen. This is about a town whose entire road network ground to a halt after an accident involving 3 cars. A town whose population grew 13% between 2001 and 2011, yet I doubt the road capacity grew by the same percentage... We need some answers from the council as to what their strategic plan is for the infrastructure of the conurbation as it's only going to get worse...[/p][/quote]You will only get some answers from the Council if there is something in it for them. The first bit of strategy they will work out is how far they can get their fat snouts into the trough... If the answer to that is good enough, then there might be a 'plan'. The plan of course will not make sense and will be doomed to over-run in terms of budget and/or time (see stupid roundabout at Canford Bottom) but hey, who cares - it's only the tax payers money and the Councillors will have their noses in the trough. Everyone's a winner. Molecatcher
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1:15pm Thu 13 Dec 12

super_soup says...

EscapefromBournemout
h says...
12:48pm Thu 13 Dec 12

"Firstly, we don't have accidents we have collisions which are normally caused by errors."

- an accident is defined as 'An unexpected and undesirable event, especially one resulting in damage or harm' - I think yesterday's event matches that description. "Collision" is a legal term.

"so as this thing does not happen every hour of everyday in this sleepy one horse town...grow up and deal with it"

- we live in the South East Dorset Conurbation (SEDC); the 16th largest population in the UK, larger than Southampton and only a slightly smaller population than Edinburgh.

Hardly a one horse town, and one which needs a lot of investment to prevent the traffic chaos which is becoming more frequent. Do you think the whole of Cardiff (which has a smaller population than SEDC) grinds to a halt when there is a 'Road Traffic Collision'?
EscapefromBournemout h says... 12:48pm Thu 13 Dec 12 "Firstly, we don't have accidents we have collisions which are normally caused by errors." - an accident is defined as 'An unexpected and undesirable event, especially one resulting in damage or harm' - I think yesterday's event matches that description. "Collision" is a legal term. "so as this thing does not happen every hour of everyday in this sleepy one horse town...grow up and deal with it" - we live in the South East Dorset Conurbation (SEDC); the 16th largest population in the UK, larger than Southampton and only a slightly smaller population than Edinburgh. Hardly a one horse town, and one which needs a lot of investment to prevent the traffic chaos which is becoming more frequent. Do you think the whole of Cardiff (which has a smaller population than SEDC) grinds to a halt when there is a 'Road Traffic Collision'? super_soup
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1:19pm Thu 13 Dec 12

EscapefromBournemouth says...

Cardiff........oh it does indeed and all you can hear are alot of Whales!
Cardiff........oh it does indeed and all you can hear are alot of Whales! EscapefromBournemouth
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1:49pm Thu 13 Dec 12

BournemouthMatt says...

Yet another accident? Can people please stop crashing. Driving really isn't that difficult.
Yet another accident? Can people please stop crashing. Driving really isn't that difficult. BournemouthMatt
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3:53pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Molecatcher says...

BournemouthMatt wrote:
Yet another accident? Can people please stop crashing. Driving really isn't that difficult.
Maybe... But driving safely and with consideration to other road uses does seem to present a bit of a challenge to some... You only have to read the comments on this site whenever there is an 'incident'. The comments on 'speed cameras' should give you an idea about people's attitude to safety on the roads.

The recent 'incident' at Bear Cross says it all really. This 'incident' should give you some clue as to the quality of the gene pool in this part of the world... There should have been a nomination for a Darwin Award if nothing else. It's the emergency services people I feel for... I would not want to deal with a mess like that. They have my greatest admiration.
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMatt[/bold] wrote: Yet another accident? Can people please stop crashing. Driving really isn't that difficult.[/p][/quote]Maybe... But driving safely and with consideration to other road uses does seem to present a bit of a challenge to some... You only have to read the comments on this site whenever there is an 'incident'. The comments on 'speed cameras' should give you an idea about people's attitude to safety on the roads. The recent 'incident' at Bear Cross says it all really. This 'incident' should give you some clue as to the quality of the gene pool in this part of the world... There should have been a nomination for a Darwin Award if nothing else. It's the emergency services people I feel for... I would not want to deal with a mess like that. They have my greatest admiration. Molecatcher
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4:24pm Thu 13 Dec 12

TinyLegacy says...

For the love of GOD people. READ THE ROADSIGNS at that speedcamera. The max speed is STILL 50. It does NOT drop to 40mph. I'm sick and tired of idiots slamming their brakes on at that camera.
For the love of GOD people. READ THE ROADSIGNS at that speedcamera. The max speed is STILL 50. It does NOT drop to 40mph. I'm sick and tired of idiots slamming their brakes on at that camera. TinyLegacy
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4:45pm Thu 13 Dec 12

EGHH says...

TinyLegacy wrote:
For the love of GOD people. READ THE ROADSIGNS at that speedcamera. The max speed is STILL 50. It does NOT drop to 40mph. I'm sick and tired of idiots slamming their brakes on at that camera.
Agreed. The fear of speed cameras cause more rear end shunts than anything else. Even when drivers are doing 30 some still brake unnecessarily. Its a pleasure to drive in Wiltshire where there heave been no speed cameras since late 2010. I bet the accident rate has gone down too!
[quote][p][bold]TinyLegacy[/bold] wrote: For the love of GOD people. READ THE ROADSIGNS at that speedcamera. The max speed is STILL 50. It does NOT drop to 40mph. I'm sick and tired of idiots slamming their brakes on at that camera.[/p][/quote]Agreed. The fear of speed cameras cause more rear end shunts than anything else. Even when drivers are doing 30 some still brake unnecessarily. Its a pleasure to drive in Wiltshire where there heave been no speed cameras since late 2010. I bet the accident rate has gone down too! EGHH
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5:00pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Earl says...

Phixer wrote:
EGHH wrote:
Is this anything to do with the continual failure of the traffic lights there?
Why should it? And twice in one week is hardly 'continual'.

One does exagerate.
Actually the traffic had backed up from the Cooper Dean along the slip road as Seimens appeared to be playing around with the traffic lights, and traffic heading towards Ringwood were suddenly confronted with stationary traffic whilst supposing the show of brake lights ahead of them was caused by the usual slowing down at the speed cameras and not realizing that the vehicles ahead were in fact stationary.
[quote][p][bold]Phixer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EGHH[/bold] wrote: Is this anything to do with the continual failure of the traffic lights there?[/p][/quote]Why should it? And twice in one week is hardly 'continual'. One does exagerate.[/p][/quote]Actually the traffic had backed up from the Cooper Dean along the slip road as Seimens appeared to be playing around with the traffic lights, and traffic heading towards Ringwood were suddenly confronted with stationary traffic whilst supposing the show of brake lights ahead of them was caused by the usual slowing down at the speed cameras and not realizing that the vehicles ahead were in fact stationary. Earl
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6:43pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Beckywaite87 says...

I like how hardly anyone on here has asked how the people involved are! That was my mum and her partner in that car. Who gives a **** about the traffic. Everyone is in a rush all the time which is why these kind of accidents happen, get Ur priorities straight!!
I like how hardly anyone on here has asked how the people involved are! That was my mum and her partner in that car. Who gives a **** about the traffic. Everyone is in a rush all the time which is why these kind of accidents happen, get Ur priorities straight!! Beckywaite87
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7:30pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Bmthanon says...

Beckywaite87 wrote:
I like how hardly anyone on here has asked how the people involved are! That was my mum and her partner in that car. Who gives a **** about the traffic. Everyone is in a rush all the time which is why these kind of accidents happen, get Ur priorities straight!!
How's your mum and partner? Paramedic said they were going to be ok at the time?
[quote][p][bold]Beckywaite87[/bold] wrote: I like how hardly anyone on here has asked how the people involved are! That was my mum and her partner in that car. Who gives a **** about the traffic. Everyone is in a rush all the time which is why these kind of accidents happen, get Ur priorities straight!![/p][/quote]How's your mum and partner? Paramedic said they were going to be ok at the time? Bmthanon
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9:09pm Thu 13 Dec 12

B.F.G says...

I agree Becky, how is your mother and her partner?
I agree Becky, how is your mother and her partner? B.F.G
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9:40pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Sammyy1991 says...

i hope the pair are recovering well and quickly! i really hate stories like this and there is to many of them!!

The speed cameras are at no fault for any accident on the wessex way. if your driving at 70 and brake hard to slow down to 50 then you are the one causing the accidents!! if you stick the rules of the road you are driving on speed cameras are not a distraction at all as you would not have to worry about them!

And as to finding alternative ways to commute to work... catching a bus from Poole to Christchurch to work is VERY expensive and takes a very long time! its just not feasible. Its actually cheaper to drive a 3 litre car!
i hope the pair are recovering well and quickly! i really hate stories like this and there is to many of them!! The speed cameras are at no fault for any accident on the wessex way. if your driving at 70 and brake hard to slow down to 50 then you are the one causing the accidents!! if you stick the rules of the road you are driving on speed cameras are not a distraction at all as you would not have to worry about them! And as to finding alternative ways to commute to work... catching a bus from Poole to Christchurch to work is VERY expensive and takes a very long time! its just not feasible. Its actually cheaper to drive a 3 litre car! Sammyy1991
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9:56pm Thu 13 Dec 12

ceri_smarty says...

It really annoys me when people judge without looking up the facts. You may think your safer in a big estate of truck but actually a Smart car has a 5 star rating on safety in European tests, which, the new one has been proven to protect the chest and head and spine better than your average Ford. Please use google, that is what it is there for!! Notice that the air bag didn't go off? Or the fact that the steel 'roll cage' hasn't given way?! Seriously do some research as the Smart is the safest small car on the road! Coming from someone who has had two. The first was written off due to being so expensive to repair - which this one will be - been there, done that! Same spot even! Hope the smart occupants are recovering well. They were smart enough to buy a proper decent and safe car.
It really annoys me when people judge without looking up the facts. You may think your safer in a big estate of truck but actually a Smart car has a 5 star rating on safety in European tests, which, the new one has been proven to protect the chest and head and spine better than your average Ford. Please use google, that is what it is there for!! Notice that the air bag didn't go off? Or the fact that the steel 'roll cage' hasn't given way?! Seriously do some research as the Smart is the safest small car on the road! Coming from someone who has had two. The first was written off due to being so expensive to repair - which this one will be - been there, done that! Same spot even! Hope the smart occupants are recovering well. They were smart enough to buy a proper decent and safe car. ceri_smarty
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10:09pm Thu 13 Dec 12

DansAFCB says...

Molecatcher wrote:
BournemouthMatt wrote:
Yet another accident? Can people please stop crashing. Driving really isn't that difficult.
Maybe... But driving safely and with consideration to other road uses does seem to present a bit of a challenge to some... You only have to read the comments on this site whenever there is an 'incident'. The comments on 'speed cameras' should give you an idea about people's attitude to safety on the roads.

The recent 'incident' at Bear Cross says it all really. This 'incident' should give you some clue as to the quality of the gene pool in this part of the world... There should have been a nomination for a Darwin Award if nothing else. It's the emergency services people I feel for... I would not want to deal with a mess like that. They have my greatest admiration.
The incident at Bear Cross was down to two people and one drunk behind the wheel being the big clever I am! At taxpayers costs!!!!!!
A lot of accidents are caused by drivers not driving too often and coming out once a week "driving miss daisy", I do in excess of 60k miles a year and I don't hang about, but I drive safe but it is the incompetence that causes accidents not necessarily speed all the time. In all the miles I drive I have never had a fault accident and not had one for 13 years, both accidents I have been involved in are when I have been stationary at a junction........ I see so many near misses due to incompetence but hardly any relating to speed!
[quote][p][bold]Molecatcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMatt[/bold] wrote: Yet another accident? Can people please stop crashing. Driving really isn't that difficult.[/p][/quote]Maybe... But driving safely and with consideration to other road uses does seem to present a bit of a challenge to some... You only have to read the comments on this site whenever there is an 'incident'. The comments on 'speed cameras' should give you an idea about people's attitude to safety on the roads. The recent 'incident' at Bear Cross says it all really. This 'incident' should give you some clue as to the quality of the gene pool in this part of the world... There should have been a nomination for a Darwin Award if nothing else. It's the emergency services people I feel for... I would not want to deal with a mess like that. They have my greatest admiration.[/p][/quote]The incident at Bear Cross was down to two people and one drunk behind the wheel being the big clever I am! At taxpayers costs!!!!!! A lot of accidents are caused by drivers not driving too often and coming out once a week "driving miss daisy", I do in excess of 60k miles a year and I don't hang about, but I drive safe but it is the incompetence that causes accidents not necessarily speed all the time. In all the miles I drive I have never had a fault accident and not had one for 13 years, both accidents I have been involved in are when I have been stationary at a junction........ I see so many near misses due to incompetence but hardly any relating to speed! DansAFCB
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11:10pm Thu 13 Dec 12

Teucer2000 says...

ceri_smarty wrote:
It really annoys me when people judge without looking up the facts. You may think your safer in a big estate of truck but actually a Smart car has a 5 star rating on safety in European tests, which, the new one has been proven to protect the chest and head and spine better than your average Ford. Please use google, that is what it is there for!! Notice that the air bag didn't go off? Or the fact that the steel 'roll cage' hasn't given way?! Seriously do some research as the Smart is the safest small car on the road! Coming from someone who has had two. The first was written off due to being so expensive to repair - which this one will be - been there, done that! Same spot even! Hope the smart occupants are recovering well. They were smart enough to buy a proper decent and safe car.
I'm afraid you need to check your facts. The EuroNCAP ratings are based on classes of cars. You can't compare different classes of cars. Thus a car of a larger class rated only 3 star may in fact be safer than a small car rated 5. The Smart is compared with cars like the Toyota IQ.
[quote][p][bold]ceri_smarty[/bold] wrote: It really annoys me when people judge without looking up the facts. You may think your safer in a big estate of truck but actually a Smart car has a 5 star rating on safety in European tests, which, the new one has been proven to protect the chest and head and spine better than your average Ford. Please use google, that is what it is there for!! Notice that the air bag didn't go off? Or the fact that the steel 'roll cage' hasn't given way?! Seriously do some research as the Smart is the safest small car on the road! Coming from someone who has had two. The first was written off due to being so expensive to repair - which this one will be - been there, done that! Same spot even! Hope the smart occupants are recovering well. They were smart enough to buy a proper decent and safe car.[/p][/quote]I'm afraid you need to check your facts. The EuroNCAP ratings are based on classes of cars. You can't compare different classes of cars. Thus a car of a larger class rated only 3 star may in fact be safer than a small car rated 5. The Smart is compared with cars like the Toyota IQ. Teucer2000
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11:54pm Thu 13 Dec 12

ragj195 says...

I saw top gear drive one into a concrete wall at 50mph when they first came out. They're tough little cars.

On another note, putting a speed camera before a busy exit slip road is daft. Cars slowing down for no reason causes bunching, then you get the cars in the outer lane that want to pull off pulling into gaps that aren't there which causes further braking. All this sooner or later ends with a shut. Yes we should all leave more space but the easiest solution is to move the camera!
I saw top gear drive one into a concrete wall at 50mph when they first came out. They're tough little cars. On another note, putting a speed camera before a busy exit slip road is daft. Cars slowing down for no reason causes bunching, then you get the cars in the outer lane that want to pull off pulling into gaps that aren't there which causes further braking. All this sooner or later ends with a shut. Yes we should all leave more space but the easiest solution is to move the camera! ragj195
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6:36am Fri 14 Dec 12

retry69 says...

DansAFCB wrote:
Molecatcher wrote:
BournemouthMatt wrote:
Yet another accident? Can people please stop crashing. Driving really isn't that difficult.
Maybe... But driving safely and with consideration to other road uses does seem to present a bit of a challenge to some... You only have to read the comments on this site whenever there is an 'incident'. The comments on 'speed cameras' should give you an idea about people's attitude to safety on the roads.

The recent 'incident' at Bear Cross says it all really. This 'incident' should give you some clue as to the quality of the gene pool in this part of the world... There should have been a nomination for a Darwin Award if nothing else. It's the emergency services people I feel for... I would not want to deal with a mess like that. They have my greatest admiration.
The incident at Bear Cross was down to two people and one drunk behind the wheel being the big clever I am! At taxpayers costs!!!!!!
A lot of accidents are caused by drivers not driving too often and coming out once a week "driving miss daisy", I do in excess of 60k miles a year and I don't hang about, but I drive safe but it is the incompetence that causes accidents not necessarily speed all the time. In all the miles I drive I have never had a fault accident and not had one for 13 years, both accidents I have been involved in are when I have been stationary at a junction........ I see so many near misses due to incompetence but hardly any relating to speed!
Just for research i dont suppose nah forget it! Football supporter also LOL
[quote][p][bold]DansAFCB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Molecatcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMatt[/bold] wrote: Yet another accident? Can people please stop crashing. Driving really isn't that difficult.[/p][/quote]Maybe... But driving safely and with consideration to other road uses does seem to present a bit of a challenge to some... You only have to read the comments on this site whenever there is an 'incident'. The comments on 'speed cameras' should give you an idea about people's attitude to safety on the roads. The recent 'incident' at Bear Cross says it all really. This 'incident' should give you some clue as to the quality of the gene pool in this part of the world... There should have been a nomination for a Darwin Award if nothing else. It's the emergency services people I feel for... I would not want to deal with a mess like that. They have my greatest admiration.[/p][/quote]The incident at Bear Cross was down to two people and one drunk behind the wheel being the big clever I am! At taxpayers costs!!!!!! A lot of accidents are caused by drivers not driving too often and coming out once a week "driving miss daisy", I do in excess of 60k miles a year and I don't hang about, but I drive safe but it is the incompetence that causes accidents not necessarily speed all the time. In all the miles I drive I have never had a fault accident and not had one for 13 years, both accidents I have been involved in are when I have been stationary at a junction........ I see so many near misses due to incompetence but hardly any relating to speed![/p][/quote]Just for research i dont suppose nah forget it! Football supporter also LOL retry69
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6:39am Fri 14 Dec 12

BackOfTheNet says...

Sammyy1991 wrote:
i hope the pair are recovering well and quickly! i really hate stories like this and there is to many of them!!

The speed cameras are at no fault for any accident on the wessex way. if your driving at 70 and brake hard to slow down to 50 then you are the one causing the accidents!! if you stick the rules of the road you are driving on speed cameras are not a distraction at all as you would not have to worry about them!

And as to finding alternative ways to commute to work... catching a bus from Poole to Christchurch to work is VERY expensive and takes a very long time! its just not feasible. Its actually cheaper to drive a 3 litre car!
£956 a year on the train and you get to relax during your 21 minute journey.

Is it cheaper than that in a 3 litre car with road tax, insurance, petrol, wear and tear, loss in car value, etc?

My guess is that you wouldn't like the 15 minute walk at either end :)
[quote][p][bold]Sammyy1991[/bold] wrote: i hope the pair are recovering well and quickly! i really hate stories like this and there is to many of them!! The speed cameras are at no fault for any accident on the wessex way. if your driving at 70 and brake hard to slow down to 50 then you are the one causing the accidents!! if you stick the rules of the road you are driving on speed cameras are not a distraction at all as you would not have to worry about them! And as to finding alternative ways to commute to work... catching a bus from Poole to Christchurch to work is VERY expensive and takes a very long time! its just not feasible. Its actually cheaper to drive a 3 litre car![/p][/quote]£956 a year on the train and you get to relax during your 21 minute journey. Is it cheaper than that in a 3 litre car with road tax, insurance, petrol, wear and tear, loss in car value, etc? My guess is that you wouldn't like the 15 minute walk at either end :) BackOfTheNet
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6:51am Fri 14 Dec 12

retry69 says...

I must say that is a little concerning that over the last week reading the comments posted on various motoring articles there seems to be an increase in the self assessed safe driver,a worrying trend because the "incident" at Bear Cross that driver may have thought he was safe, although we know different and am i the only one to find the verdict accidental death slightly worrying also as surely it was no accident getting drunk then getting behind a steering wheel.
I must say that is a little concerning that over the last week reading the comments posted on various motoring articles there seems to be an increase in the self assessed safe driver,a worrying trend because the "incident" at Bear Cross that driver may have thought he was safe, although we know different and am i the only one to find the verdict accidental death slightly worrying also as surely it was no accident getting drunk then getting behind a steering wheel. retry69
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7:24am Fri 14 Dec 12

Molecatcher says...

DansAFCB wrote:
Molecatcher wrote:
BournemouthMatt wrote: Yet another accident? Can people please stop crashing. Driving really isn't that difficult.
Maybe... But driving safely and with consideration to other road uses does seem to present a bit of a challenge to some... You only have to read the comments on this site whenever there is an 'incident'. The comments on 'speed cameras' should give you an idea about people's attitude to safety on the roads. The recent 'incident' at Bear Cross says it all really. This 'incident' should give you some clue as to the quality of the gene pool in this part of the world... There should have been a nomination for a Darwin Award if nothing else. It's the emergency services people I feel for... I would not want to deal with a mess like that. They have my greatest admiration.
The incident at Bear Cross was down to two people and one drunk behind the wheel being the big clever I am! At taxpayers costs!!!!!! A lot of accidents are caused by drivers not driving too often and coming out once a week "driving miss daisy", I do in excess of 60k miles a year and I don't hang about, but I drive safe but it is the incompetence that causes accidents not necessarily speed all the time. In all the miles I drive I have never had a fault accident and not had one for 13 years, both accidents I have been involved in are when I have been stationary at a junction........ I see so many near misses due to incompetence but hardly any relating to speed!
Your categorical statement about the cause of 'accidents', your self professed 'not hanging about' and to cap it all a statement of how safe a driver you are. You prove my point exactly. Thank you.
[quote][p][bold]DansAFCB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Molecatcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMatt[/bold] wrote: Yet another accident? Can people please stop crashing. Driving really isn't that difficult.[/p][/quote]Maybe... But driving safely and with consideration to other road uses does seem to present a bit of a challenge to some... You only have to read the comments on this site whenever there is an 'incident'. The comments on 'speed cameras' should give you an idea about people's attitude to safety on the roads. The recent 'incident' at Bear Cross says it all really. This 'incident' should give you some clue as to the quality of the gene pool in this part of the world... There should have been a nomination for a Darwin Award if nothing else. It's the emergency services people I feel for... I would not want to deal with a mess like that. They have my greatest admiration.[/p][/quote]The incident at Bear Cross was down to two people and one drunk behind the wheel being the big clever I am! At taxpayers costs!!!!!! A lot of accidents are caused by drivers not driving too often and coming out once a week "driving miss daisy", I do in excess of 60k miles a year and I don't hang about, but I drive safe but it is the incompetence that causes accidents not necessarily speed all the time. In all the miles I drive I have never had a fault accident and not had one for 13 years, both accidents I have been involved in are when I have been stationary at a junction........ I see so many near misses due to incompetence but hardly any relating to speed![/p][/quote]Your categorical statement about the cause of 'accidents', your self professed 'not hanging about' and to cap it all a statement of how safe a driver you are. You prove my point exactly. Thank you. Molecatcher
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7:59am Fri 14 Dec 12

Sammyy1991 says...

BackOfTheNet wrote:
Sammyy1991 wrote:
i hope the pair are recovering well and quickly! i really hate stories like this and there is to many of them!!

The speed cameras are at no fault for any accident on the wessex way. if your driving at 70 and brake hard to slow down to 50 then you are the one causing the accidents!! if you stick the rules of the road you are driving on speed cameras are not a distraction at all as you would not have to worry about them!

And as to finding alternative ways to commute to work... catching a bus from Poole to Christchurch to work is VERY expensive and takes a very long time! its just not feasible. Its actually cheaper to drive a 3 litre car!
£956 a year on the train and you get to relax during your 21 minute journey.

Is it cheaper than that in a 3 litre car with road tax, insurance, petrol, wear and tear, loss in car value, etc?

My guess is that you wouldn't like the 15 minute walk at either end :)
From Christchurch train station to somerford... Abit longer than a 15 minute walk :).. But I could get a bus for that but.. Increasing the total too a lot more than £956 .. You are probaly right about how much I spend on the car other than petrol... But I also enjoy driving so it's the price I pay.. Fair point though!
[quote][p][bold]BackOfTheNet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammyy1991[/bold] wrote: i hope the pair are recovering well and quickly! i really hate stories like this and there is to many of them!! The speed cameras are at no fault for any accident on the wessex way. if your driving at 70 and brake hard to slow down to 50 then you are the one causing the accidents!! if you stick the rules of the road you are driving on speed cameras are not a distraction at all as you would not have to worry about them! And as to finding alternative ways to commute to work... catching a bus from Poole to Christchurch to work is VERY expensive and takes a very long time! its just not feasible. Its actually cheaper to drive a 3 litre car![/p][/quote]£956 a year on the train and you get to relax during your 21 minute journey. Is it cheaper than that in a 3 litre car with road tax, insurance, petrol, wear and tear, loss in car value, etc? My guess is that you wouldn't like the 15 minute walk at either end :)[/p][/quote]From Christchurch train station to somerford... Abit longer than a 15 minute walk :).. But I could get a bus for that but.. Increasing the total too a lot more than £956 .. You are probaly right about how much I spend on the car other than petrol... But I also enjoy driving so it's the price I pay.. Fair point though! Sammyy1991
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8:25am Fri 14 Dec 12

scrumpyjack says...

Beckywaite87 wrote:
I like how hardly anyone on here has asked how the people involved are! That was my mum and her partner in that car. Who gives a **** about the traffic. Everyone is in a rush all the time which is why these kind of accidents happen, get Ur priorities straight!!
Oh right. And when was the last time you came on here just to post your best wishes to some strangers?

Ummm....

Who gives a **** about traffic? Err maybe the person sat for 2 hours in it?

It’s not about ‘priorities’ or even whether or not a bit of incompetent driving caused a bucket full of cost and stress so grow up and less of the belly button gazing.

Maybe your mum and her partner want to come on here and apologise for their imcompetence?
[quote][p][bold]Beckywaite87[/bold] wrote: I like how hardly anyone on here has asked how the people involved are! That was my mum and her partner in that car. Who gives a **** about the traffic. Everyone is in a rush all the time which is why these kind of accidents happen, get Ur priorities straight!![/p][/quote]Oh right. And when was the last time you came on here just to post your best wishes to some strangers? Ummm.... Who gives a **** about traffic? Err maybe the person sat for 2 hours in it? It’s not about ‘priorities’ or even whether or not a bit of incompetent driving caused a bucket full of cost and stress so grow up and less of the belly button gazing. Maybe your mum and her partner want to come on here and apologise for their imcompetence? scrumpyjack
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8:33am Fri 14 Dec 12

ceri_smarty says...

Teucer2000 wrote:
ceri_smarty wrote:
It really annoys me when people judge without looking up the facts. You may think your safer in a big estate of truck but actually a Smart car has a 5 star rating on safety in European tests, which, the new one has been proven to protect the chest and head and spine better than your average Ford. Please use google, that is what it is there for!! Notice that the air bag didn't go off? Or the fact that the steel 'roll cage' hasn't given way?! Seriously do some research as the Smart is the safest small car on the road! Coming from someone who has had two. The first was written off due to being so expensive to repair - which this one will be - been there, done that! Same spot even! Hope the smart occupants are recovering well. They were smart enough to buy a proper decent and safe car.
I'm afraid you need to check your facts. The EuroNCAP ratings are based on classes of cars. You can't compare different classes of cars. Thus a car of a larger class rated only 3 star may in fact be safer than a small car rated 5. The Smart is compared with cars like the Toyota IQ.
My point proven exactly, why thank you! -_-

And if you don't believe me or the person who commented after, YouTube is another really interesting way to back up facts before you speak?
[quote][p][bold]Teucer2000[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ceri_smarty[/bold] wrote: It really annoys me when people judge without looking up the facts. You may think your safer in a big estate of truck but actually a Smart car has a 5 star rating on safety in European tests, which, the new one has been proven to protect the chest and head and spine better than your average Ford. Please use google, that is what it is there for!! Notice that the air bag didn't go off? Or the fact that the steel 'roll cage' hasn't given way?! Seriously do some research as the Smart is the safest small car on the road! Coming from someone who has had two. The first was written off due to being so expensive to repair - which this one will be - been there, done that! Same spot even! Hope the smart occupants are recovering well. They were smart enough to buy a proper decent and safe car.[/p][/quote]I'm afraid you need to check your facts. The EuroNCAP ratings are based on classes of cars. You can't compare different classes of cars. Thus a car of a larger class rated only 3 star may in fact be safer than a small car rated 5. The Smart is compared with cars like the Toyota IQ.[/p][/quote]My point proven exactly, why thank you! -_- And if you don't believe me or the person who commented after, YouTube is another really interesting way to back up facts before you speak? ceri_smarty
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8:38am Fri 14 Dec 12

scrumpyjack says...

ceri_smarty wrote:
It really annoys me when people judge without looking up the facts. You may think your safer in a big estate of truck but actually a Smart car has a 5 star rating on safety in European tests, which, the new one has been proven to protect the chest and head and spine better than your average Ford. Please use google, that is what it is there for!! Notice that the air bag didn't go off? Or the fact that the steel 'roll cage' hasn't given way?! Seriously do some research as the Smart is the safest small car on the road! Coming from someone who has had two. The first was written off due to being so expensive to repair - which this one will be - been there, done that! Same spot even! Hope the smart occupants are recovering well. They were smart enough to buy a proper decent and safe car.
it really annoys me when silly cows are really up their own ar5e.

'Ooooh look everyone I've got a Smart car and they are like really, really expensive'.

(especially when you are a crud driver and keep crashing it eh?)
[quote][p][bold]ceri_smarty[/bold] wrote: It really annoys me when people judge without looking up the facts. You may think your safer in a big estate of truck but actually a Smart car has a 5 star rating on safety in European tests, which, the new one has been proven to protect the chest and head and spine better than your average Ford. Please use google, that is what it is there for!! Notice that the air bag didn't go off? Or the fact that the steel 'roll cage' hasn't given way?! Seriously do some research as the Smart is the safest small car on the road! Coming from someone who has had two. The first was written off due to being so expensive to repair - which this one will be - been there, done that! Same spot even! Hope the smart occupants are recovering well. They were smart enough to buy a proper decent and safe car.[/p][/quote]it really annoys me when silly cows are really up their own ar5e. 'Ooooh look everyone I've got a Smart car and they are like really, really expensive'. (especially when you are a crud driver and keep crashing it eh?) scrumpyjack
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11:54am Fri 14 Dec 12

ceri_smarty says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
ceri_smarty wrote:
It really annoys me when people judge without looking up the facts. You may think your safer in a big estate of truck but actually a Smart car has a 5 star rating on safety in European tests, which, the new one has been proven to protect the chest and head and spine better than your average Ford. Please use google, that is what it is there for!! Notice that the air bag didn't go off? Or the fact that the steel 'roll cage' hasn't given way?! Seriously do some research as the Smart is the safest small car on the road! Coming from someone who has had two. The first was written off due to being so expensive to repair - which this one will be - been there, done that! Same spot even! Hope the smart occupants are recovering well. They were smart enough to buy a proper decent and safe car.
it really annoys me when silly cows are really up their own ar5e.

'Ooooh look everyone I've got a Smart car and they are like really, really expensive'.

(especially when you are a crud driver and keep crashing it eh?)
Wow, an expert on traffic control and judgement of others! Gold star to you my friend! I am sorry your soooo jealous of my little smart car that I work very hard to pay for. Why don't you go and look at one and see what I am saying? You obviously want a safe car that isn't as expensive as whatever you are driving - sorry, I forgot, you think I am stuck up - your so nieve, that you wish to pay ALOT more to travel than I do. Good luck with that! :) Caring isn't a strong point for you eh?
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ceri_smarty[/bold] wrote: It really annoys me when people judge without looking up the facts. You may think your safer in a big estate of truck but actually a Smart car has a 5 star rating on safety in European tests, which, the new one has been proven to protect the chest and head and spine better than your average Ford. Please use google, that is what it is there for!! Notice that the air bag didn't go off? Or the fact that the steel 'roll cage' hasn't given way?! Seriously do some research as the Smart is the safest small car on the road! Coming from someone who has had two. The first was written off due to being so expensive to repair - which this one will be - been there, done that! Same spot even! Hope the smart occupants are recovering well. They were smart enough to buy a proper decent and safe car.[/p][/quote]it really annoys me when silly cows are really up their own ar5e. 'Ooooh look everyone I've got a Smart car and they are like really, really expensive'. (especially when you are a crud driver and keep crashing it eh?)[/p][/quote]Wow, an expert on traffic control and judgement of others! Gold star to you my friend! I am sorry your soooo jealous of my little smart car that I work very hard to pay for. Why don't you go and look at one and see what I am saying? You obviously want a safe car that isn't as expensive as whatever you are driving - sorry, I forgot, you think I am stuck up - your so nieve, that you wish to pay ALOT more to travel than I do. Good luck with that! :) Caring isn't a strong point for you eh? ceri_smarty
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1:23pm Fri 14 Dec 12

FNS-man says...

EGHH wrote:
TinyLegacy wrote:
For the love of GOD people. READ THE ROADSIGNS at that speedcamera. The max speed is STILL 50. It does NOT drop to 40mph. I'm sick and tired of idiots slamming their brakes on at that camera.
Agreed. The fear of speed cameras cause more rear end shunts than anything else. Even when drivers are doing 30 some still brake unnecessarily. Its a pleasure to drive in Wiltshire where there heave been no speed cameras since late 2010. I bet the accident rate has gone down too!
Or.... people driving too close to the person in front causes shunts.
[quote][p][bold]EGHH[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TinyLegacy[/bold] wrote: For the love of GOD people. READ THE ROADSIGNS at that speedcamera. The max speed is STILL 50. It does NOT drop to 40mph. I'm sick and tired of idiots slamming their brakes on at that camera.[/p][/quote]Agreed. The fear of speed cameras cause more rear end shunts than anything else. Even when drivers are doing 30 some still brake unnecessarily. Its a pleasure to drive in Wiltshire where there heave been no speed cameras since late 2010. I bet the accident rate has gone down too![/p][/quote]Or.... people driving too close to the person in front causes shunts. FNS-man
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1:25pm Fri 14 Dec 12

FNS-man says...

DansAFCB wrote:
Molecatcher wrote:
BournemouthMatt wrote:
Yet another accident? Can people please stop crashing. Driving really isn't that difficult.
Maybe... But driving safely and with consideration to other road uses does seem to present a bit of a challenge to some... You only have to read the comments on this site whenever there is an 'incident'. The comments on 'speed cameras' should give you an idea about people's attitude to safety on the roads.

The recent 'incident' at Bear Cross says it all really. This 'incident' should give you some clue as to the quality of the gene pool in this part of the world... There should have been a nomination for a Darwin Award if nothing else. It's the emergency services people I feel for... I would not want to deal with a mess like that. They have my greatest admiration.
The incident at Bear Cross was down to two people and one drunk behind the wheel being the big clever I am! At taxpayers costs!!!!!!
A lot of accidents are caused by drivers not driving too often and coming out once a week "driving miss daisy", I do in excess of 60k miles a year and I don't hang about, but I drive safe but it is the incompetence that causes accidents not necessarily speed all the time. In all the miles I drive I have never had a fault accident and not had one for 13 years, both accidents I have been involved in are when I have been stationary at a junction........ I see so many near misses due to incompetence but hardly any relating to speed!
You may have been stationary, but if the person who went into you was travelling at 70 mph then I imagine the outcome would have been worse...
[quote][p][bold]DansAFCB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Molecatcher[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BournemouthMatt[/bold] wrote: Yet another accident? Can people please stop crashing. Driving really isn't that difficult.[/p][/quote]Maybe... But driving safely and with consideration to other road uses does seem to present a bit of a challenge to some... You only have to read the comments on this site whenever there is an 'incident'. The comments on 'speed cameras' should give you an idea about people's attitude to safety on the roads. The recent 'incident' at Bear Cross says it all really. This 'incident' should give you some clue as to the quality of the gene pool in this part of the world... There should have been a nomination for a Darwin Award if nothing else. It's the emergency services people I feel for... I would not want to deal with a mess like that. They have my greatest admiration.[/p][/quote]The incident at Bear Cross was down to two people and one drunk behind the wheel being the big clever I am! At taxpayers costs!!!!!! A lot of accidents are caused by drivers not driving too often and coming out once a week "driving miss daisy", I do in excess of 60k miles a year and I don't hang about, but I drive safe but it is the incompetence that causes accidents not necessarily speed all the time. In all the miles I drive I have never had a fault accident and not had one for 13 years, both accidents I have been involved in are when I have been stationary at a junction........ I see so many near misses due to incompetence but hardly any relating to speed![/p][/quote]You may have been stationary, but if the person who went into you was travelling at 70 mph then I imagine the outcome would have been worse... FNS-man
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2:14pm Fri 14 Dec 12

scrumpyjack says...

ceri_smarty wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
ceri_smarty wrote:
It really annoys me when people judge without looking up the facts. You may think your safer in a big estate of truck but actually a Smart car has a 5 star rating on safety in European tests, which, the new one has been proven to protect the chest and head and spine better than your average Ford. Please use google, that is what it is there for!! Notice that the air bag didn't go off? Or the fact that the steel 'roll cage' hasn't given way?! Seriously do some research as the Smart is the safest small car on the road! Coming from someone who has had two. The first was written off due to being so expensive to repair - which this one will be - been there, done that! Same spot even! Hope the smart occupants are recovering well. They were smart enough to buy a proper decent and safe car.
it really annoys me when silly cows are really up their own ar5e.

'Ooooh look everyone I've got a Smart car and they are like really, really expensive'.

(especially when you are a crud driver and keep crashing it eh?)
Wow, an expert on traffic control and judgement of others! Gold star to you my friend! I am sorry your soooo jealous of my little smart car that I work very hard to pay for. Why don't you go and look at one and see what I am saying? You obviously want a safe car that isn't as expensive as whatever you are driving - sorry, I forgot, you think I am stuck up - your so nieve, that you wish to pay ALOT more to travel than I do. Good luck with that! :) Caring isn't a strong point for you eh?
Spelling and not rambling is though.
[quote][p][bold]ceri_smarty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ceri_smarty[/bold] wrote: It really annoys me when people judge without looking up the facts. You may think your safer in a big estate of truck but actually a Smart car has a 5 star rating on safety in European tests, which, the new one has been proven to protect the chest and head and spine better than your average Ford. Please use google, that is what it is there for!! Notice that the air bag didn't go off? Or the fact that the steel 'roll cage' hasn't given way?! Seriously do some research as the Smart is the safest small car on the road! Coming from someone who has had two. The first was written off due to being so expensive to repair - which this one will be - been there, done that! Same spot even! Hope the smart occupants are recovering well. They were smart enough to buy a proper decent and safe car.[/p][/quote]it really annoys me when silly cows are really up their own ar5e. 'Ooooh look everyone I've got a Smart car and they are like really, really expensive'. (especially when you are a crud driver and keep crashing it eh?)[/p][/quote]Wow, an expert on traffic control and judgement of others! Gold star to you my friend! I am sorry your soooo jealous of my little smart car that I work very hard to pay for. Why don't you go and look at one and see what I am saying? You obviously want a safe car that isn't as expensive as whatever you are driving - sorry, I forgot, you think I am stuck up - your so nieve, that you wish to pay ALOT more to travel than I do. Good luck with that! :) Caring isn't a strong point for you eh?[/p][/quote]Spelling and not rambling is though. scrumpyjack
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2:19pm Fri 14 Dec 12

ceri_smarty says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
ceri_smarty wrote:
scrumpyjack wrote:
ceri_smarty wrote:
It really annoys me when people judge without looking up the facts. You may think your safer in a big estate of truck but actually a Smart car has a 5 star rating on safety in European tests, which, the new one has been proven to protect the chest and head and spine better than your average Ford. Please use google, that is what it is there for!! Notice that the air bag didn't go off? Or the fact that the steel 'roll cage' hasn't given way?! Seriously do some research as the Smart is the safest small car on the road! Coming from someone who has had two. The first was written off due to being so expensive to repair - which this one will be - been there, done that! Same spot even! Hope the smart occupants are recovering well. They were smart enough to buy a proper decent and safe car.
it really annoys me when silly cows are really up their own ar5e.

'Ooooh look everyone I've got a Smart car and they are like really, really expensive'.

(especially when you are a crud driver and keep crashing it eh?)
Wow, an expert on traffic control and judgement of others! Gold star to you my friend! I am sorry your soooo jealous of my little smart car that I work very hard to pay for. Why don't you go and look at one and see what I am saying? You obviously want a safe car that isn't as expensive as whatever you are driving - sorry, I forgot, you think I am stuck up - your so nieve, that you wish to pay ALOT more to travel than I do. Good luck with that! :) Caring isn't a strong point for you eh?
Spelling and not rambling is though.
Funny! Grammar clearly isn't! :)
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ceri_smarty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ceri_smarty[/bold] wrote: It really annoys me when people judge without looking up the facts. You may think your safer in a big estate of truck but actually a Smart car has a 5 star rating on safety in European tests, which, the new one has been proven to protect the chest and head and spine better than your average Ford. Please use google, that is what it is there for!! Notice that the air bag didn't go off? Or the fact that the steel 'roll cage' hasn't given way?! Seriously do some research as the Smart is the safest small car on the road! Coming from someone who has had two. The first was written off due to being so expensive to repair - which this one will be - been there, done that! Same spot even! Hope the smart occupants are recovering well. They were smart enough to buy a proper decent and safe car.[/p][/quote]it really annoys me when silly cows are really up their own ar5e. 'Ooooh look everyone I've got a Smart car and they are like really, really expensive'. (especially when you are a crud driver and keep crashing it eh?)[/p][/quote]Wow, an expert on traffic control and judgement of others! Gold star to you my friend! I am sorry your soooo jealous of my little smart car that I work very hard to pay for. Why don't you go and look at one and see what I am saying? You obviously want a safe car that isn't as expensive as whatever you are driving - sorry, I forgot, you think I am stuck up - your so nieve, that you wish to pay ALOT more to travel than I do. Good luck with that! :) Caring isn't a strong point for you eh?[/p][/quote]Spelling and not rambling is though.[/p][/quote]Funny! Grammar clearly isn't! :) ceri_smarty
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2:28pm Fri 14 Dec 12

scrumpyjack says...

lol; funny face; exclamation mark ; exclamation mark. Yawn.
lol; funny face; exclamation mark ; exclamation mark. Yawn. scrumpyjack
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2:32pm Fri 14 Dec 12

retry69 says...

I see schools out !
I see schools out ! retry69
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4:46pm Fri 14 Dec 12

EGHH says...

Earl wrote:
Phixer wrote:
EGHH wrote:
Is this anything to do with the continual failure of the traffic lights there?
Why should it? And twice in one week is hardly 'continual'.

One does exagerate.
Actually the traffic had backed up from the Cooper Dean along the slip road as Seimens appeared to be playing around with the traffic lights, and traffic heading towards Ringwood were suddenly confronted with stationary traffic whilst supposing the show of brake lights ahead of them was caused by the usual slowing down at the speed cameras and not realizing that the vehicles ahead were in fact stationary.
Ah I forgot Siemens use this area for testing. Yuo just have drive the length of Broadstone Way to see the number of their cameras / systems on test.
[quote][p][bold]Earl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Phixer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EGHH[/bold] wrote: Is this anything to do with the continual failure of the traffic lights there?[/p][/quote]Why should it? And twice in one week is hardly 'continual'. One does exagerate.[/p][/quote]Actually the traffic had backed up from the Cooper Dean along the slip road as Seimens appeared to be playing around with the traffic lights, and traffic heading towards Ringwood were suddenly confronted with stationary traffic whilst supposing the show of brake lights ahead of them was caused by the usual slowing down at the speed cameras and not realizing that the vehicles ahead were in fact stationary.[/p][/quote]Ah I forgot Siemens use this area for testing. Yuo just have drive the length of Broadstone Way to see the number of their cameras / systems on test. EGHH
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5:10pm Sat 15 Dec 12

phil53 says...

I was the Smart car driver. Just to put the facts straight, I was stationary in a tailback waiting to join the Cooper Dean slip road off the Wessex Way when I was hit from the rear. The paramedics were concerned that both my partner and I had spinal injuries and, as such, they removed us from the car on spinal boards which necessitated the removal of the car doors. This took time. I am grateful that our Smart car protected us so well. I will certainly get another one. Having been stuck in traffic jams myself due to accidents I can totally understand the frustration and I am sorry about that, but I catagorically will not apologise for any driving incompetance on my part.
I was the Smart car driver. Just to put the facts straight, I was stationary in a tailback waiting to join the Cooper Dean slip road off the Wessex Way when I was hit from the rear. The paramedics were concerned that both my partner and I had spinal injuries and, as such, they removed us from the car on spinal boards which necessitated the removal of the car doors. This took time. I am grateful that our Smart car protected us so well. I will certainly get another one. Having been stuck in traffic jams myself due to accidents I can totally understand the frustration and I am sorry about that, but I catagorically will not apologise for any driving incompetance on my part. phil53
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