LiveRoadworks shambles: council to remove cones from the A35 but Blandford Road to be closed BOTH ways

First published in News Bournemouth Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Digital Projects Coordinator

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Summary

  • Drivers are reporting total standstill for a second day on the Upton bypass.
  • Wessex Water announce total closure of a section of Blandford Road for five days from 9.30am on Thursday because of collapsed sewer, leaving Turlin Moor and Hamworthy residents stuck going the long way round
  • The A35 has been down to a single lane because of resurfacing and bridge strengthening works although the work is only taking place overnight
  • Dorset County Council are removing the lane closures from the section of the A35 between the A350 and Upton Country Park during rush hour from tomorrow
  • The Sandbanks ferry is also closed for its biennial refit
  • Traffic also backed up on Wessex Way thanks to roadworks on Cooper Dean and Kings Park slip roads

5:31pm

It doesn't look like the Blandford Road closure is causing any major issues so we're going to call it a day.

You can still email us at digital@bournemouthecho.co.uk if you know of any problems relating to Blandford Road or the Upton bypass.

 

4:56pm

We're starting to see reports of slow traffic on the A35 again and on the A351 up to the Bakers Arms - but we think that's because the cones aren't being removed until 5pm

10:47am

Reporter Jim Durkin is out at Turlin Moor - he says a lot of people obviously didn't know about the closure bnecause there's a steady stream of cars coming from the Poole direction being forced to turn around...

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Talking to Poole reporter Di Henderson, she think the main traffic issues with the Blandford Road closure won't be until this afternoon - going towards Turlin Moor this morning should be easy because there's not much other traffic going that way, but this evening's rush hour could prove a pinch point as everyone tries to take Holes Bay Road.

Fingers crossed the Twin Sails bridge doesn't choose today for a breakdown.

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8:24am

And a letter from a very disgruntled reader who says DCC based their decision to do the eatbound lane first on the flow of traffic, but...

Having contacted Dorset Council this morning a highways official informed me that the eastern direction of the bypass was less busy than the western direction according to the survey they did earlier on in the year. (then the ferry was working, the Blandford road was not closed and due to the recession, there were generally fewer cars around).

8:23am

An email overnight from a reader:

I live in Upton and I'm furious about it, so much so that I've set up a website and facebook page about it.


It would be great if you could give it a mention, if we can capture the public feeling and work together about this rather than a few people letting off steam individually we might be able to do something about it.

The website is at www.pooletraffic.co.uk

8:22am

Katie Clark is out in Turlin Moor to see what the score is on Blandford Road, so we'll keep you updated.

8:22am

Morning all. It seems as though the reopening of the carriageway between the A350 and Upton COuntry Park is making a difference to traffic this morning although do let us know if you know differently...

5:18pm

Okay folks - we think we've given you all the information we can for tonight but we'll be back in the morning to report on what's happening with Blandford Road and to see if there's an improvement on the Upton bypass.

Should anything else happen tonight we will post it here - and if you want to tell us anything, email using the link below.

5:05pm

As ever, if you're not registered to comment but you want to have a say, email me at digital@bournemouthecho.co.uk...

5:02pm

Di Henderson has just sent us this from a chat she's been having with Fred Winwood, Hamworthy resident and chairman of Hamside Residents Association:

“I’m fuming. I do think the people of Hamworthy are being very flexible in this situation,” he said.

“The way this has all happened at the same time is an absolute disgrace. They haven’t got the capability to organise something like this, it could only happen by accident.”

4:58pm

Re the Blandford Road closure, some clarification: The road will be closed from 9.30am, from north of Turlin Road to the south of Allens Lane. It's not a very long stretch at all, but because of the railway line (and of course the sea!) there's no easy way around it.

4:49pm

One of our reporters has been speaking to St Edwards school about the Blandford Road closures: 

THE head teacher at St Edward's school on Dale Valley Road, Poole, said both her staff and pupils were being affected by road works.

Mrs Tola Bevan said: “It's not just Blandford Road that is affected; the disruption is widespread with quite a few staff having to set off considerably earlier and having to take alternative routes.

“Our students come from a wide catchment area; some live in Upton and Hamworthy. People setting off from Kinson are also having to take alternative routes and one of our coaches will not be able to go to Turlin Moor until Monday.”

I'm not sure what that last means for students who live in Turlin Moor... two free days off maybe? 

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4:42pm

Here's a map to try and demonstrate that:

Cones will be removed between C and B but remain in place between A and C

4:40pm

To summarise:

  • Cones will be removed from the section of road between the A350 and Upton COuntry park during rush hour but WILL remain from the Bakers Arms roundabout to the A350 until November 16
  •  patching and drainage work will be done tonight to allow the closures to be removed
  • the cones will be back in place from 9am-5pm

4:35pm

Okay, we've now got the statement from DCC re the cones on the A35. Here it is in full:

Traffic management on the A35 Upton Bypass is being altered to help ease congestion.

From Thursday 8 November, cones between the A350 junction with the A35 Upton Bypass and the Upton Park junction will be removed during the morning and evening rush hour traffic.

Listening to concerns from residents and the business community, the additional work being undertaken on the bypass is being reprogrammed and accelerated.

Tonight, work will jump to the eastern section of the road for surface patching and drainage work and the lane closure will be removed in time for the morning peak traffic.

The lane closure will come back into effect after the morning rush hour has finished, with the cones being walked back out from 9am. The lane closure will be removed by 5pm each day.

Dorset County Council Cabinet member for transport Peter Finney said: “We’ve listened to people’s frustrations over the last three days and have reviewed the traffic management and programme of works to see how we can ease the situation.

“We believe that removing this section of lane closure should alleviate congestion where the A350 joins with the bypass, easing the flow of traffic.

“Unfortunately, we are unable to remove the lane closure between the Bakers Arms Roundabout and the A350 junction, but – weather permitting – this work will be completed on Friday 16 November.”

From Saturday 17 November, there will be minimal traffic management left in place while the bridge strengthening work continues, as the additional road maintenance will have been finished.

4:34pm

A good question from one of our Twitter followers. We don't know the answer but we'll try and find out.

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4:21pm Wed 7 Nov 12

vicjoaid says

I live in Hamworthy and am getting married on Saturday morning! Traffic is bad enough now but when they close the road in both directions it'll be worse!! Glad I have a week off work next week-I might just hibernate!! :(
Stressed.com

4:16pm

We're not sure what the effect on the schools is as yet but we're asking the questions...

4:16pm

Comment from Facebook re the Blandford Road closure: 

Hazel Christopher I know my kids are at school at St Edwards and no idea how this will effect the school bus, just going to see my daughter who just had a baby has cost me a fortune as she lives in Hamworthy and I am on the moor and having to drive all the way round everytime is a nightmare and now this.....its a total joke !

 

3:58pm

We're still waiting for the official statement from the county council on when and how the A35O junction will be reopened - we haven't forgotten, we promise!

3:36pm

We've just had a statement from Wessex Water to say Blandford Road is to close from Thursday until Sunday evening for emergency repairs. Here it is in full:

Blandford Road will close in both directions from tomorrow (Thursday 8 November) until Sunday evening (11 November) to carry out emergency repairs to a collapsed sewer.

The road has been closed to southbound vehicles since 22 October to allow Wessex Water to renew a water main.    

Unfortunately, unrelated to the water supply work, it was discovered yesterday that a storm water sewer, also along Blandford Road, had collapsed.

Emergency repairs to the sewer will start tomorrow and the road will be closed in both directions. Residents who live in the Turlin Moor estate, who have previously only been able to travel northbound towards Poole, will now only be able to travel southbound.

A diversion route will be in place that will take vehicles via Rigler Road, Twin Sails Bridge, West Quay Road, Holes Bay Road, A35.

A Wessex Water spokesman said: “We understand the inconvenience our work has caused local people and motorists and we are sorry that we have to close the road in both directions for this emergency work to take place.

“The road is unsafe for vehicles so it is essential we carry out the repairs as soon as possible.

“Our workforce will be working 24 hours a day and over the weekend to complete the work so the road can be reopened on Sunday evening.

“We sincerely apologise for the disruption and would urge motorists to allow extra time for their journeys over the next couple of days.”

Wessex Water said the collapsed sewer would not affect the current water supply scheme to renew the water main that had been prone to bursting.

The spokesman said: “Initially the water supply work was scheduled to finish on 21 December, however, due to the progress which has been made on site we hope to complete the work by the end of this month.”

 

3:11pm

Don't forget, if you're not registered to comment you can email us at digital@bournemouthecho.co.uk

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2:56pm Wed 7 Nov 12

refman says

Panic over! Echo travel news states Upton Bypass only medium severity so ok then!! Perhaps Poole Borough Council have put up Poole closed until further notice signs.

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2:26pm

Confirmed: Dorset highway chiefs have taken emergency measures to ease the traffic chaos on the bypass. From Thursday morning all the cones from the A350 junction will be removed. 

We'll have more when we get the full statement but we're being told that will be totally removed, not just peak times.

2:24pm

An interesting comment posted under our top story - we're checking whether it's true or not now...

1:28pm Wed 7 Nov 12

thevisitor says

My mate has just been on the phone. They are lifting the lane restrictions during peak times from tmrw. The cones wont be down until 9.15am!!! The DCC have just had a crisis meeting and the BBC are there now so it will be on the news I guess.

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12:26pm Wed 7 Nov 12

hamworthygirl says

Firstly all the smug walkers, cyclist on here are able to get to their schools and places of works with out problems. Good for you, i am a walker myself but not everyone can walk , disabled people for a start there are some that still work and need cars. Bear in mind that some of the people on Turlin Moor have children at Hamworthy schools so have to get to the schools via upton and then go to work. The buses can only run one way VIA upton, its timing isnt it? they leave early but the schools dont open until 830, then they have to allow extra time to get to work, but the children cant be left early at school. So if any of the people who have suggested cycling and walking can come up with a good plan for just that then please do.

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11:13am

Don't forget, if you want to let us know what you think of the works or tell us how you're trying to avoid the queues then you can email digital@bournemouthecho.co.uk or post a comment below.

10:57am

Lytchett Matravers resident Davina Chapman fears there may be a "serious accident" if cars continue to be pushed through the village.

Read more about what local residents had to say here

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Fortunately this isn't something we have to worry about at the moment...
 

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One Poole to Swanage commuter said the following of their journey this morning:

The queue was at least a mile long on the Sandford Road leading to the Bakers Arms roundabout.

While Sandra Palmer of Farmer Palmers at Organford said her journeytime was halved today:

It took me just under 20 minutes from Organford to take the children to school at Upton. Yesterday it was 40 minutes.

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Some more pictures from the Bakers Arms this morning

Bournemouth Echo: bakrs arms traffic

Bournemouth Echo: Bakers Arms traffic

9:57am

Michelle says traffic is much lighter in Lytchetts Minster and Matravers this morning - the talk at the school gates is that most people have left much earlier to avoid the jams. It still took her 20 minutes to do a journey that would normally take five, though.

9:55am

A flashback to yesterday, when some drivers were complaining that the road was closed overnight on Monday, causing them to miss Poole's fireworks display because they were stuck in traffic. Our photographic assistant Michelle Luther has just sent this pic of the signs which do indeed say work starts on Nov 6, not Nov 5.

Bournemouth Echo: A35 sgins

9:53am

A comment from Geoff Beck, on our Facebook page:

Corfe Mullen, once again, bears the brunt of being the 'rat-run' whenever there's any A31, Upton, bypass or Gravel Hill work.
Queues back the Lamb's Green and all the way through the village, as the Wingreen roundabout acts as a intersection for all the short-cuts. Utterly ridiculous 

9:32am

However, we will try and get a timeline of what happened in what order for those who you who like to know these details...

9:31am

A question from Wintonian

9:28am Wed 7 Nov 12

Wintonian says

It's all very well blaming Dorset County Council, but they published the works months ago so must have organised it even before that.

The question surely is, who booked it first, DCC or Wessex Water.

As far as I know, the utilities don't have to get permission from any local authority to dig up a road.

While it's always fashionable to blame the councils in the Echo, it would be good to know exactly who arranged what, when.

You can read all about the problems with the Blandford Road water main - but essentially this is an issue that's been ongoing all year. It's the fourth time the pipe has been dug up, and works have been delayed from August after the Wessex Water team found a hole under the road that needed to be investigated by Borough of Poole council. 

The pipe in question does urgently need repair - it burst three times in a month earlier this year.

9:28am

Don't forget you can email us your thoughts if you're not registered to comment - digital@bournemouthecho.co.uk

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TThe knock-on effect...

9:08am

David Cain, managing director of Marine Components, who are based in Poole, has just sent us a copy of this email he's sent to Borough of Poole council.

Congratulations Poole Council – in conjunction with Purbeck Council, Dorset county Council and D-o-T you have instituted the ultimate road safety programme in Upton by totally stopping all movement of traffic!

My staff cannot get to and from work, my customers are not coming near the area, deliveries are delayed or cancelled and the pollution level s from all the stationary traffic must be sky-high.

 

I read that you claim the combination of works currently grid locking the area is ‘unavoidable’ and must be all done at once.

I find this unbelievable – the Wessex Water works may well be considered necessary after their incompetence over the past months at their many attempts to repair their water mains, but I cannot see why the Upton bypass works could not have been delayed until the water works were completed – particularly as the Sandbanks ferry is also out of service and compounding the problem. After all you only have a year’s foreknowledge of the ferry maintenance programme!

This is sheer incompetence on the part of everyone involved in the various organisations supposedly planning these works – if you displayed this level of incompetence in the private sector none of you would be employed.

 

As things stand if I still have a business after Christmas I will be surprised – please review your planning on this and for God’s sake postpone the A35 works until Wessex Water have finished.

9:03am

Our favourite tweet of the morning so far...
 

8:58am

In response to live-and-let-live's comment, yesterday Borough of Poole told us: 

The Dorset County Council works are also essential, as the structural integrity of the Policeman's Lane bridge over the Upton Bypass is at risk unless the structure is repaired. If the bridge were to fail then there would be many months of disruption while a new structure is built.

The implication of course being that the bridge is at risk of collapse. However Dorset County Council say the bridge is definitely not about to collapse, but it does not meet the required standards, main issue being what would happen if a car were to hit one of the pillars. 

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8:34am Wed 7 Nov 12

Shogun50 says

They not only disrupt our lives during the day but also at night. We were awoken at 0100 this morning with a hammering, thumping, banging noise which lasted well over an hour - it must be those night roadworks. We are in Hamworthy, so how bad was it for those living nearby.

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8:45am Wed 7 Nov 12

live-and-let-live says

i'd like to know what exactly is the urgency regarding work on the upton bypass. would it be that dcc havent got much else lined up for employees at this time of year?

8:52am

Councillor Fred Drane, who represents Lytchett on the county council, has called for the work to be stopped until after Christmas: “Now they have seen the chaos it’s causing, why can’t they say it’s too much and call it off?”

You can read his full comments and the rest of our front page story here

 

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10:33pm Tue 6 Nov 12

mysticalshoelace says

As I see it we pay to use the roads via road taxes so that makes us paying customers and if we can't use the roads that we've paid to drive on then we should be entitled to a rebate. If everyone that's been inconvenienced by the complete incompetence shown by the DoT and Council wrote and invoiced them for the working time lost then at the very least having to open and respond to all those letters would inconvenience them too.

8:26am

An interesting comment from last night:

6:41pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Dorsetstrider says

There is another way the people could air their views.

If everyone that needs to travel in to Poole for work, school, college etc called in sick blaming the traffic chaos I'm sure this would get someone to take action. Shops, buisnesses, schools, colleges, all closed due to staffing issues I'm sure would even raise eyebrows at central government level. You watch DCC, Wessex Water, Town Planners etc move then as they try to save their jobs.

Alternatively overwhelm your local MP with letters demanding he raise this as an issue in the House of Commons.

Affermative action people, it's a good thing!

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7:23am

Morning everyone. Reports are it's just starting to slow down on the A35  - we'll be back at about 8.15 (I'm writing this from home and I need to get to the office!) - keep updated via the ttraffic feed and as ever let us know your thoughts in the comments, via email on or #uptonbypass

7:32pm

That's all for tonight, folks.

We'll be back tomorrow with the latest on how the traffic is moving on day two of the roadworks plus there's two pages of coverage and reaction on the jams inside tomorrow's Echo.

You can continue to let us know what you think of the works by commenting below, via Twitter using the hashtag #uptonbypass or by emailing us at digital@bournemouthecho.co.uk

In case you missed it earlier, here's what exactly is going to be happening on the Upton bypass:

From now until December 7 - five weeks - the eastbound carriageway is down to one lane. And the end of that five weeks we'll be back to two lanes eastbound and the ferry will be running again.

The Blandford Road works continue until December 24.

There's then a break until after Christmas. From Jan 14 for five weeks the westbound carriageway of the Upton bypass will be down to one lane.

Then from Feb 18, the fast lanes on both carriageways will be closed until Mar 15. And from Mar 11 -22 the westbound lane will be closed completely at night.

The council estimates 36,000 cars use the route every day.

 

 

 

 

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6:41pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Dorsetstrider says

There is another way the people could air their views.

If everyone that needs to travel in to Poole for work, school, college etc called in sick blaming the traffic chaos I'm sure this would get someone to take action. Shops, buisnesses, schools, colleges, all closed due to staffing issues I'm sure would even raise eyebrows at central government level. You watch DCC, Wessex Water, Town Planners etc move then as they try to save their jobs.

Alternatively overwhelm your local MP with letters demanding he raise this as an issue in the House of Commons.

Affermative action people, it's a good thing!

5:57pm

Time for another change of personnel. I'm passing you over to Darren Slade for the rest of the evening.

Let us know what you think of the roadworks in the comments below or by emailing us at digital@bournemouthecho.co.uk

Don't forget you can find out what's happening on the roads by visiting our live traffic feed

 

5:23pm

We can't help you with that third question unfortunately spooki, but we will pass your comments on to our central team:

5:10pm Tue 6 Nov 12

spooki says

I have three questions:
1. What idiot OK'd all this works to be done at the same time?
2. Can I get from Townsend to Farmer Palmers without sitting in my car all day? Actually, I also don't want to get in the way of people who have no choice but to go that way. It's a shame for businesses on the routes as they're going to lose out over the next few weeks.
3. Can the Echo please get rid of the fancy moving adverts a my iPad doesn't like them & keeps freezing.

5:14pm

Keith has got in touch with the following:

The main problem this morning was caused by the fact that DCC do not seem to be doing just what was proprosed in the original Echo article.

Today, they closed down to one lane, the road from the Upton/A350 Junction, Eastbound to the Upton House turn off.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the Policemans Lane bridge which is much further East. This appears to be additional work not notified.

Typically, there was no one working. This planning is an absolute dsigrace and somone needs to fix this urgently as with the other road works in Hamworthy this cannot continue.

Just to clarify; the work on Policeman's Lane Bridge was mentioned in a previous article published by the Echo, which you can read here

5:12pm

Our traffic feed has picked up slow traffic on the A35 at Lytchett Minster due to the roadworks.

If you're just getting home and want to give us a picture of what your journey on the Upton bypass has been like today, we'd still like to hear from you. Email digital@bournemouthecho.co.uk or add your comment below. Not registered? sign up here

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3:57pm Tue 6 Nov 12

tubsy says

Dorset council's advice of allowing extra time for journeys doesn't work. I live in Poole and have to get one child to school in Hamworthy for a certain time and the other to preschool in Upton shortly after.
So, in other words, our children's educational needs mean nothing to local councils nor the impact that sitting in traffic will cause to our finances considering the cost of fuel these days.

4:31pm

Our feed is currently showing heavy traffic on the A3049 Ringwood Road at Alderney between the B3068 / Canford Way (Alderney Roundabout) and A348 / Francis Avenue (Mountbatten Roundabout).

4:11pm

Iain Odhams has emailed us to say the councils should have put their heads together to discuss the knock-on effect the works would have on the various routes:

Monday morning my journey from Upton to St Leonards took 25 minutes, about normal for 8:15am.  Today the exact same journey took me 1hr 25 minutes. What is interesting though is that I was going in the opposite direction to the traffic! 

It took me 10 minutes to turn right out of my driveway on Dorchester Road, Upton and then another 10 minutes to move the half mile to the double roundabout, 20 minutes for half a mile! 

The traffic was stacked up well into Corfe Mullen and towards Lychett Matravers. The A31 from Corfe Mullen heading to Canford Bottom was also gridlock as the traffic coming from Dorchester direction was having to find alternative routes into Bournemouth / Poole. 

I do not believe the statements from Poole Council, Dorset Council and the Ferry Operators.  I cannot believe that nobody has realised that blocking EVERY route from the West and Purbecks into Poole and Bournemouth at the same time is a good idea. 

On the Upton bypass, no work has even started, just lanes closed off with cones.  erhaps the overpaid powers that be could decide to work in the best insterest of the public for once and pull the plug on the Upton bypass roadworks until the Hamworthy roadworks have finished and the ferry is back. 

It would mean that different councils actually have to talk to one another....we will see.

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2:57pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Dorsetstrider says

If and when there is a serious accident as a result of these unplanned planned roadworks will the local police have the bottle to lauch a criminal investogation into the negligence of DCC, town planners and wessex water for their part in contributing any accident?

3:47pm

Nothing as yet on the traffic feed about how the Upton bypass is flowing but we'll keep you posted as soon as we know what the situation is for this evening's rush hour.

3:45pm

Here's a picture Corin Messer took of the Sandbanks Chain Ferry making its way across to Southampton for its biennial refit:

Bournemouth Echo: Sandbanks ferry refit

3:19pm

Reader Dawn emailed in to say:

I live in Turlin Moor and I don’t understand why it’s going to take so long to complete the works there, they seem to be cracking on with it with certain parts of the road all complete.

But for the Upton Bypass to then have roadworks on at the same time seems ridiculous, the roads are not dangerous and the statement from Poole council is rubbish that they could not avoid them taking place together. 

I think the Bypass could have been postponed until after the New Year as they’re resurfacing and there is no potential danger as far as I can see.

I do normally cycle to work, but to have to go out in my car seems such an effort at the moment as it takes so long to get back to the Moor, even if you’re just popping out to Upton or Town. 

I was an hour and a half late this morning for work as I needed to take my car in today of all days, I shall be cycling again tomorrow and that’ll take me 20mins.

3:06pm

Rush hour is edging closer and we want you to keep us posted with how your journey home goes if you're heading into Poole.

Let us know in the comments or you can tweet @Bournemouthecho using the hashtag #uptonbypass.

 

2:37pm

We asked you earlier what you were planning to do tomorrow about the works, as it stands 68 per cent of you are planning on leaving earlier. Will this just cause earlier jams? There's still time to vote:

2:19pm

Hi everyone, Sarah hosting here now.

As Sam mentioned earlier we have some video footage for you, so if you weren't sat in the traffic this morning and are wondering what all the fuss is about, you can see it for yourself:

2:10pm

Change of personnel for the afternoon, Sarah Cartlidge will be your host for the evening rush hour. Don't forget to let us know what you thinl via Twitter (hashtag #uptonbypass) or on the email below. 

We'd like to hear from some people in Lytchett Matravers - how do you feel about all this traffic coming past your houses? What sort of impact is it having on you?

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1:58pm Tue 6 Nov 12

bluto999 says

If you want to avoid sitting in a queue you could try cycling instead.

I appreciate that some folk may have too long a journey, or not be able to ride, but if all those that are able cycled then the people who can't avoid driving would have a shorter queue.

1:58pm

If you're going to be heading into Poole this evening, will you be leaving earlier?

Don't forget, if you were stuck in traffic this morning and haven't yet commented on the gridlock then you can still email your thoughts to us at digital@bournemouthecho.co.uk

1:51pm

We've got some video of the traffic this morning which should be online shortly, if you like that sort of thing.

1:36pm

And Corin Messer took this picture on the Upton bypass this morning.

Bournemouth Echo: Upton bypass

1:33pm

Here's the traffic trying to get on the Wessex Way...

Bournemouth Echo: Wessex Way traffixc 

1:19pm

And as if that wasn't enough, Avon Causeway is closed until November 16 from Matchams Lane to Ringwood Road. I *think* we've run out of roadworks to tell you about now.

1:16pm

It seems the people of Bournemouth aren't going to escape the queues this week - two sets of roadworks planned on the Wessex Way. 

There's work being done all week on the slip road at Cooper Dean and today and tomorrow there's also work being done on the Kings Park slip road. We're not sure in which direction as there's not a lot of info here and the link provided to DCC, who are doing the works, is not working, so we'll get back to you when we know more.

1:09pm

With reference to Mrs Chapman's point about Huntick Road below, one of our friendly local weather forecasters says flooding could be an issue over the next couple of weeks:

12:58pm

Another reader emails to say: 

I’m not usually one to complain and just sit in the traffic and get on with it but today was awful. 

We live in Creekmoor, had to drop my daughter off to school at Lytchett Minster and then get to work in Poole. 

Our journey which normally takes around 20 minutes in total today took an hour!!!  Why are these roadworks being started the same time as the roadworks in Hamworthy!!  Surely these roadworks could have waited until the Hamworthy ones had finished.

 

My son has to get a bus every day from Creekmoor to Poole then catch the connection bus to Bournemouth Uni.  This means he is going to be late everyday for University.

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12:55pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Letcommonsenseprevail says

As usual, we'll get the 'unavoidable delays' and 'urgent repairs' rubbish from the authorities. Are they seriously trying to kid us that all these roadworks could only be performed simultaneously and couldn't have been staggered to minimise disruption? These civil SERVANTS should remember we pay their wages and they are there to serve us, not make life as difficult as possible. They're all **** lucky they don't work in the real world or they'd all have been out on the ear a long time ago. Complete and utter numpties and they should all be sacked.

12:57pm

It's probably worth clarifying what's actually happening on the Upton bypass because some readers are confused about how long the works go on.

So from now until December 7 - five weeks - the eastbound carriageway is down to one lane. And the end of that five weeks we'll be back to two lanes eastbound and the ferry will be running again.

The Blandford Road works continue until December 24.

There's then a break until after Christmas. From Jan 14 for five weeks the westbound carriageway of the Upton bypass will be down to one lane. 

Then from Feb 18, the fast lanes on both carriageways will be closed until Mar 15. And from Mar 11 -22 the westbound lane will be closed completely at night.

The council estimates 36,000 cars use the route every day.

12:47pm

Mrs Chapman has emailed us to say she's worried there will be an accident due to all the cars using country lanes as a cut through

I live in Lytchett Matravers and this morning Huntick Road (which is a country lane) was more like the M25 as cars from all directions used it as a cut through. 

This road is used for parents to take students to Lytchett Minster School and during bad weather it is often flloded or during cold weather extremely dangerous as it is not gritted.

At the end of the road where it joins the Poole Road students heading to the school from Upton could not cross the road because of the continuos flow of traffic.

The village of Lytchett Matravers is often used as a diversion route when there are accidents on the Blandford Road or the Bere Regis Road, roads such as Huntick Road & Foxhills Lane are country lanes with no pavements and are not suitable for constant flows of traffic I am concerned that there will be a serious accident if cars are continuously pushed through the village.

Here's a map of where Huntick Road is:

The official diversion is through Lytchett Minster - along the B3067 through Upton and back on to the A35 at Upton Country Park or north to the A350.

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12:41pm Tue 6 Nov 12

The Liberal says

BackOfTheNet wrote:
If only there was some form of public transportation system that people could use, say from Dorchester to Poole and beyond which also stopped at Moreton, Wool, Wareham, Holton Heath and Hamworthy...

Perhaps some of the serial moaners could car-share? You've got plenty of time to talk to other individuals in other cars going the same direction while you're stationary so why not try it? Of course not, you all* believe you have a right to drive on your own in your own car.


*Disclaimer: Approximately 5% vehicles have more than one person or are carrying a load unsuitable for other forms of transport.
1. The train is hideously expensive, even for a short journey. And the buses have to use the same roads as cars.
 
2. Finding someone in your small village, say, who will be going to exactly the same destination at exactly the same time as you (and coming back at the same time) isn't that easy.
 
Let's face it, the council have made a major mistake with the timing of these roadworks and it's no use trying to blame the resulting chaos on motorists.

12:37pm

12:37pm

While we're talking about traffic  

12:24pm

Service 387 which is the First Poole/Dorchester route has been running with delays all morning although they are clear now - but expect there to be problems this afternoon.

12:21pm

The Wilts and Dorset Swanage service  (Route 50) is running to an alternative route while the ferry is out of action. Details are here - it does take in the stretch of the A35 affected by the roadworks so we imagine there will be some delays.

12:16pm

BackoftheNet has a point to make about public transport.

12:11pm Tue 6 Nov 12

BackOfTheNet says

If only there was some form of public transportation system that people could use, say from Dorchester to Poole and beyond which also stopped at Moreton, Wool, Wareham, Holton Heath and Hamworthy...

Perhaps some of the serial moaners could car-share? You've got plenty of time to talk to other individuals in other cars going the same direction while you're stationary so why not try it? Of course not, you all* believe you have a right to drive on your own in your own car.


*Disclaimer: Approximately 5% vehicles have more than one person or are carrying a load unsuitable for other forms of transport.

Speaking of which, no word so far on how the roadworks are affecting buses. We'll try and find out.

12:10pm

Cherribare is taking Tricky to task for his "don't live there then" comment from earlier.

12:09pm Tue 6 Nov 12

cherribare says

Living in Hamworthy is hardly the back of beyond we have two bridges now! funnily enough to ease traffic congestion. Im sure the people of Bournemouth will be complaining near Christmas when all roads to Castlepoint are gridlock. I have in the past spent over an hour trying to get out of castlepoint.
The issue is not where you choose to live but the incompetence of the town planners who have ordered two sets of roadworks on the route people take when they cant use the sandbanks ferry.

12:07pm

Here's some totally unconnected news, but since we're all here: The tip at Somerford is closed to the public until further notice because of a fire. We're getting reports of long queues of traffic being turned away. Katie Clark and Corin Messer are there now so we'll have a story up as soon as we can.

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12:00pm

We've just been sent Dorset County Council's statement on the chaos:

Dorset County Council Cabinet member for transport Peter Finney said:

Tuesday was the first morning of the lane closure on the eastbound carriageway of the Upton Bypass, and there were considerable delays in the area as expected.

“There is no alternative way of carrying out these vital improvements and repairs and, due to the busy nature of this road, there will inevitably be delays for the duration of the work.

Drivers should, wherever possible, allow plenty of extra time for their journeys.”

 

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We think Tricky1007 is trying to wind you all up here: 

11:46am Tue 6 Nov 12

tricky1007 says

Dont know what people are moaning about, seems fine over here near castlepoint! If you live in an area with restricted access its obvious if there is an accident/roadworks it will be hard to move about. Need to think about these things when you move into a place!

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11:36am Tue 6 Nov 12

cherribare says

Utter Madness!!!!! I live in Turlin Moor and its been bad enough for the last couple of weeks, not only do I have to do an approx 8 mile detour to get petrol/cash from the cash point or to pop into town I now have to sit in hours of traffic for the privilege. I feel completely trapped in my own home as the only 'way out' is by train' and to think this will carry on until xmas, I wonder if Wessex Water will be compensating the residents of Hamworhy and Turlin Moor or if Poole Borough council will care give a discount on our council tax?? ...... thought not!

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The water main they refer to in that statement has indeed burst more than once. In fact it's been dug up four times in the last six months, and burst three times in just four weeks in May, making Hamworthy "practically a no go area" according to residents. In August Wessex Water found a hole under the road that stopped repair work temporarily.

You can see what the people of Hamworthy think about that in this story and in this story.

11:34am

We have had a response from Borough of Poole, though. It is as follows.

A spokesperson, Borough of Poole, said: "Unfortunately due to the urgency of both sets of works, in this case Blandford Road and the Upton By-Pass, the clash of these two schemes is unfortunate but unavoidable.

"The Wessex Water repairs are essential because of repeated bursting of a critical fresh water supply main. This work has to proceed without delay, as if it were to fail again it could potentially leave large areas of the local community in Hamworthy without drinking water and having to rely on filling containers from standpipes. Wessex Water are doing everything they can to minimise disruption and get the road reopened as soon as possible.

"The Dorset County Council works are also essential, as the structural integrity of the Policeman's Lane bridge over the Upton Bypass is at risk unless the structure is repaired. If the bridge were to fail then there would be many months of disruption while a new structure is built."

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11:31am

For info, we asked Dorset County Council for a statement a couple of hours ago but we've not heard anything yet - we'll post it here as soon as we have something.

11:26am

According to our latest info, the traffic queue now starts at Morden Park Corner, not Bloxworth. So better, but still not ideal. We'd be interested to hear what you're planning if you have to do this journey this evening - detour? Leave earlier? Leave later?

11:23am

Just to throw another spanner in the works, there's a giant Sunseeker on the way to Portland under police escort that's expected to cause delays on the A31, A35, A354 and A357.

It's 17.35m long and weighs 23,000kg. If you get a picture, send it to us!

11:17am

And the folks behind the Dorset Speed website (a name familiar to our commenters I'm sure) have emailed the following to a lot of councillors this morning:

Another DorsetSpeed award: the most ridiculous set of road closures of the year award.


I could not have better planned gridlock on the roads around Poole if I had tried. With the Turlin Moor road closed, and on November the 5th when there is a huge increase in traffic as people try to get to fireworks events, the A35 Upton bypass was closed for non-emergency bridge maintenance I believe.

And just to ensure complete misery in the busy run up to Christmas, the Sandbanks ferry will also be taken out for routine maintenance while these 2 closures are still in place.

I tried to take my sons swimming this evening, we just sat in traffic for half an hour and went home.

What the heck is going on in the brains of the people responsible for the roads in this area?

11:11am

We've been asking people on Twitter about the fireworks traffic last night - this poor soul wasn't stuck on the bypass but it still took a ridiculously long time to get home.

 

10:49am

Reader Ali has been on a mission to find out how this perfect storm of roadworks/closures came about. 

She lives in Upton and works in Hamworthy but her children go to school in Lytchett Matravers. She says it's taken her an hour to do the journeys and wonders if there's any chance of getting four-way traffic lights to help ease the problem.

We'll ask if that's an option or not. If you have thoughts and you're not registered to comment (why on earth not? :) you can email me at digital@bournemouthecho.co.uk.

10:43am

One of our readers has emailed to say she has seen signs on the A35 saying the roadworks are between Nov 6 and December 7, but the road was closed overnight last night which made the traffic problems after Poole's fireworks worse than they needed to be.

She writes "The road signs say the A35 will be closed between Tuesday 6 Nov and Friday 7 December. So how come it was closed last night, 5 Nov, when goodness knows how many people were trying to get to Poole for the fireworks? Like many others we were stuck in a traffic jam down Poole Road from Upton when we should have been enjoying the display."

10:36am

Our traffic feed is still reporting slow traffic and long delays - let us know if you've any more up to date info about what it's like at the moment. 

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10:25am Tue 6 Nov 12

alasdair1967 says

2 sets works try 3 all traffic that's being diverted from Blandford road joining dual carriage way in centre of lane restrictions gross incompetence by all involved in planning if these works

10:25am

Di Henderson has been talking to drivers at the Bakers Arms:

Sarajane Clark, 25,  took 30 minutes to take her child from Lytchet Minster to Upton, a trip that would normally take five minutes.

The roads were clear at 7.30am, said Carly Goddard, 23, when she drove to Lytchet Minster. "But I live at Turlin Moor and I'm not looking forward to going home through this and the one way traffic on Blandford Road."

10:24am

If you're just arriving at work because of the delays, do let us know what it's been like for you in the comments (or you can email digital@bournemouthecho.co.uk)

10:16am

With reference to the tweets below, one of our reporters did see an ambulance making its way through the roadworks this morning. She says it was struggling but did manage to make it through.

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10:11am Tue 6 Nov 12

paul.p says

Talk about restriction of movement.....

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9:57am Tue 6 Nov 12

loyallocal says

DCC told me we will get used to it. They didn't seem to understand the problem at all.

10:02am

10:00am

One motorist who's just driven the other way to Dorchester says the out road is fine, but the traffic coming in to Poole is backed up to Bloxworth. We'll do a map so you can see exactly what that means!

 

9:55am

Meanwhile, the Sandbanks ferry team are preparing for their trip to Southampton:

 

9:52am

Over on our Facebook page people are asking why the various companies involved don't talk to each other.

Natalie Chambers says: Do these organisations not speak to each other? I feel sorry for people in upton and turlin moor as there only way to get out and into town is to use the upton bypass.

9:51am

9:51am

Our reporter Di Henderson is at the Bakers Arms - she says it is moving, but very slowly.

9:50am

Claire Boscarelli, our promotions manager, took an hour and forty minutes to do a journey that normally takes her 45 minutes. She ended up detouring through Lytchett Matravers, Corfe Castle, Wimborne and Gravel Hill but says she doesn't know what she's going to do tomorrow.

"It was horrendous, stop start all the time. I have no idea what I'm going to do this morning except get up at stupid o'clock."

9:48am

The ferry company told us they had not been told about the Upton bypass work: “We didn’t know anything about the work on the Upton bypass,” she told the Daily Echo. “We do this refit every other year at the same time of year.”

9:47am

Today's problems are down to three things, the start of a ten week project to replace a water main in Blandford Road; the start of a 15-week engineering project on the Upton bypass and the biennial refit of the Sandbanks ferry

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We're already getting some strong reactions via Twitter:

9:44am

Morning.  It's pretty awful on the way into Poole this morning - we're going to us this blog to keep up you to date - let us know your thoughts in the comments.

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9:57am Tue 6 Nov 12

loyallocal says...

DCC told me we will get used to it. They didn't seem to understand the problem at all.
DCC told me we will get used to it. They didn't seem to understand the problem at all. loyallocal
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10:11am Tue 6 Nov 12

paul.p says...

Talk about restriction of movement.....
Talk about restriction of movement..... paul.p
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10:25am Tue 6 Nov 12

alasdair1967 says...

2 sets works try 3 all traffic that's being diverted from Blandford road joining dual carriage way in centre of lane restrictions gross incompetence by all involved in planning if these works
2 sets works try 3 all traffic that's being diverted from Blandford road joining dual carriage way in centre of lane restrictions gross incompetence by all involved in planning if these works alasdair1967
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11:36am Tue 6 Nov 12

cherribare says...

Utter Madness!!!!! I live in Turlin Moor and its been bad enough for the last couple of weeks, not only do I have to do an approx 8 mile detour to get petrol/cash from the cash point or to pop into town I now have to sit in hours of traffic for the privilege. I feel completely trapped in my own home as the only 'way out' is by train' and to think this will carry on until xmas, I wonder if Wessex Water will be compensating the residents of Hamworhy and Turlin Moor or if Poole Borough council will care give a discount on our council tax?? ...... thought not!
Utter Madness!!!!! I live in Turlin Moor and its been bad enough for the last couple of weeks, not only do I have to do an approx 8 mile detour to get petrol/cash from the cash point or to pop into town I now have to sit in hours of traffic for the privilege. I feel completely trapped in my own home as the only 'way out' is by train' and to think this will carry on until xmas, I wonder if Wessex Water will be compensating the residents of Hamworhy and Turlin Moor or if Poole Borough council will care give a discount on our council tax?? ...... thought not! cherribare
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11:46am Tue 6 Nov 12

tricky1007 says...

Dont know what people are moaning about, seems fine over here near castlepoint! If you live in an area with restricted access its obvious if there is an accident/roadworks it will be hard to move about. Need to think about these things when you move into a place!
Dont know what people are moaning about, seems fine over here near castlepoint! If you live in an area with restricted access its obvious if there is an accident/roadworks it will be hard to move about. Need to think about these things when you move into a place! tricky1007
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12:09pm Tue 6 Nov 12

cherribare says...

Living in Hamworthy is hardly the back of beyond we have two bridges now! funnily enough to ease traffic congestion. Im sure the people of Bournemouth will be complaining near Christmas when all roads to Castlepoint are gridlock. I have in the past spent over an hour trying to get out of castlepoint.
The issue is not where you choose to live but the incompetence of the town planners who have ordered two sets of roadworks on the route people take when they cant use the sandbanks ferry.
Living in Hamworthy is hardly the back of beyond we have two bridges now! funnily enough to ease traffic congestion. Im sure the people of Bournemouth will be complaining near Christmas when all roads to Castlepoint are gridlock. I have in the past spent over an hour trying to get out of castlepoint. The issue is not where you choose to live but the incompetence of the town planners who have ordered two sets of roadworks on the route people take when they cant use the sandbanks ferry. cherribare
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12:11pm Tue 6 Nov 12

BackOfTheNet says...

If only there was some form of public transportation system that people could use, say from Dorchester to Poole and beyond which also stopped at Moreton, Wool, Wareham, Holton Heath and Hamworthy...

Perhaps some of the serial moaners could car-share? You've got plenty of time to talk to other individuals in other cars going the same direction while you're stationary so why not try it? Of course not, you all* believe you have a right to drive on your own in your own car.


*Disclaimer: Approximately 5% vehicles have more than one person or are carrying a load unsuitable for other forms of transport.
If only there was some form of public transportation system that people could use, say from Dorchester to Poole and beyond which also stopped at Moreton, Wool, Wareham, Holton Heath and Hamworthy... Perhaps some of the serial moaners could car-share? You've got plenty of time to talk to other individuals in other cars going the same direction while you're stationary so why not try it? Of course not, you all* believe you have a right to drive on your own in your own car. *Disclaimer: Approximately 5% vehicles have more than one person or are carrying a load unsuitable for other forms of transport. BackOfTheNet
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12:41pm Tue 6 Nov 12

The Liberal says...

BackOfTheNet wrote:
If only there was some form of public transportation system that people could use, say from Dorchester to Poole and beyond which also stopped at Moreton, Wool, Wareham, Holton Heath and Hamworthy...

Perhaps some of the serial moaners could car-share? You've got plenty of time to talk to other individuals in other cars going the same direction while you're stationary so why not try it? Of course not, you all* believe you have a right to drive on your own in your own car.


*Disclaimer: Approximately 5% vehicles have more than one person or are carrying a load unsuitable for other forms of transport.
1. The train is hideously expensive, even for a short journey. And the buses have to use the same roads as cars.
 
2. Finding someone in your small village, say, who will be going to exactly the same destination at exactly the same time as you (and coming back at the same time) isn't that easy.
 
Let's face it, the council have made a major mistake with the timing of these roadworks and it's no use trying to blame the resulting chaos on motorists.
[quote][p][bold]BackOfTheNet[/bold] wrote: If only there was some form of public transportation system that people could use, say from Dorchester to Poole and beyond which also stopped at Moreton, Wool, Wareham, Holton Heath and Hamworthy... Perhaps some of the serial moaners could car-share? You've got plenty of time to talk to other individuals in other cars going the same direction while you're stationary so why not try it? Of course not, you all* believe you have a right to drive on your own in your own car. *Disclaimer: Approximately 5% vehicles have more than one person or are carrying a load unsuitable for other forms of transport.[/p][/quote]1. The train is hideously expensive, even for a short journey. And the buses have to use the same roads as cars.   2. Finding someone in your small village, say, who will be going to exactly the same destination at exactly the same time as you (and coming back at the same time) isn't that easy.   Let's face it, the council have made a major mistake with the timing of these roadworks and it's no use trying to blame the resulting chaos on motorists. The Liberal
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12:55pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

As usual, we'll get the 'unavoidable delays' and 'urgent repairs' rubbish from the authorities. Are they seriously trying to kid us that all these roadworks could only be performed simultaneously and couldn't have been staggered to minimise disruption? These civil SERVANTS should remember we pay their wages and they are there to serve us, not make life as difficult as possible. They're all **** lucky they don't work in the real world or they'd all have been out on the ear a long time ago. Complete and utter numpties and they should all be sacked.
As usual, we'll get the 'unavoidable delays' and 'urgent repairs' rubbish from the authorities. Are they seriously trying to kid us that all these roadworks could only be performed simultaneously and couldn't have been staggered to minimise disruption? These civil SERVANTS should remember we pay their wages and they are there to serve us, not make life as difficult as possible. They're all **** lucky they don't work in the real world or they'd all have been out on the ear a long time ago. Complete and utter numpties and they should all be sacked. Letcommonsenseprevail
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1:02pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Never Under Opionated says...

I saw loads (and I mean *loads*) of grossly overweight people in their cars queued in traffic this morning.

The current congestion problems could be easily sorted if these good folk tried walking or getting on their bikes.

It would be great for their health too, - so we're all winners! Result!
I saw loads (and I mean *loads*) of grossly overweight people in their cars queued in traffic this morning. The current congestion problems could be easily sorted if these good folk tried walking or getting on their bikes. It would be great for their health too, - so we're all winners! Result! Never Under Opionated
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1:21pm Tue 6 Nov 12

muscliffman says...

When I commented at the weekend that the Echo were hyping closure of the Sandbanks Ferry to ensure Dorset County Council dimwits could see it and plan roadworks on the alternative routes I had no idea the usless unaccountable Officers actually already had!

More awards to themselves in the pipeline for this unfit for purpose DCC highways outfit no doubt.
When I commented at the weekend that the Echo were hyping closure of the Sandbanks Ferry to ensure Dorset County Council dimwits could see it and plan roadworks on the alternative routes I had no idea the usless unaccountable Officers actually already had! More awards to themselves in the pipeline for this unfit for purpose DCC highways outfit no doubt. muscliffman
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1:58pm Tue 6 Nov 12

bluto999 says...

If you want to avoid sitting in a queue you could try cycling instead.

I appreciate that some folk may have too long a journey, or not be able to ride, but if all those that are able cycled then the people who can't avoid driving would have a shorter queue.
If you want to avoid sitting in a queue you could try cycling instead. I appreciate that some folk may have too long a journey, or not be able to ride, but if all those that are able cycled then the people who can't avoid driving would have a shorter queue. bluto999
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2:57pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Dorsetstrider says...

If and when there is a serious accident as a result of these unplanned planned roadworks will the local police have the bottle to lauch a criminal investogation into the negligence of DCC, town planners and wessex water for their part in contributing any accident?
If and when there is a serious accident as a result of these unplanned planned roadworks will the local police have the bottle to lauch a criminal investogation into the negligence of DCC, town planners and wessex water for their part in contributing any accident? Dorsetstrider
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3:57pm Tue 6 Nov 12

tubsy says...

Dorset council's advice of allowing extra time for journeys doesn't work. I live in Poole and have to get one child to school in Hamworthy for a certain time and the other to preschool in Upton shortly after.
So, in other words, our children's educational needs mean nothing to local councils nor the impact that sitting in traffic will cause to our finances considering the cost of fuel these days.
Dorset council's advice of allowing extra time for journeys doesn't work. I live in Poole and have to get one child to school in Hamworthy for a certain time and the other to preschool in Upton shortly after. So, in other words, our children's educational needs mean nothing to local councils nor the impact that sitting in traffic will cause to our finances considering the cost of fuel these days. tubsy
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5:10pm Tue 6 Nov 12

spooki says...

I have three questions:
1. What idiot OK'd all this works to be done at the same time?
2. Can I get from Townsend to Farmer Palmers without sitting in my car all day? Actually, I also don't want to get in the way of people who have no choice but to go that way. It's a shame for businesses on the routes as they're going to lose out over the next few weeks.
3. Can the Echo please get rid of the fancy moving adverts a my iPad doesn't like them & keeps freezing.
I have three questions: 1. What idiot OK'd all this works to be done at the same time? 2. Can I get from Townsend to Farmer Palmers without sitting in my car all day? Actually, I also don't want to get in the way of people who have no choice but to go that way. It's a shame for businesses on the routes as they're going to lose out over the next few weeks. 3. Can the Echo please get rid of the fancy moving adverts a my iPad doesn't like them & keeps freezing. spooki
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5:15pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

Come On - somebody must know who is responsible for this complete and utter fiasco. Somebody name names. Bournemouth Echo - do some proper investigative journalism for a change and find out who's neck needs putting on the block.......
Come On - somebody must know who is responsible for this complete and utter fiasco. Somebody name names. Bournemouth Echo - do some proper investigative journalism for a change and find out who's neck needs putting on the block....... Letcommonsenseprevail
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5:58pm Tue 6 Nov 12

all4one says...

tubsy says

Dorset council's advice of allowing extra time for journeys doesn't work. I live in Poole and have to get one child to school in Hamworthy for a certain time and the other to preschool in Upton shortly after.
So, in other words, our children's educational needs mean nothing to local councils nor the impact that sitting in traffic will cause to our finances considering the cost of fuel these days.
---> totally agree and this should be addressed. how do they expect people to add extra time to journeys when they can not advise how long you will be delayed and when you are unable to leave your child at school unattended? what kind of stupid advice is that from the council anyway? if whoever planned these roadworks is reading this you are an absolute idiot and should not be in that job.
tubsy says Dorset council's advice of allowing extra time for journeys doesn't work. I live in Poole and have to get one child to school in Hamworthy for a certain time and the other to preschool in Upton shortly after. So, in other words, our children's educational needs mean nothing to local councils nor the impact that sitting in traffic will cause to our finances considering the cost of fuel these days. ---> totally agree and this should be addressed. how do they expect people to add extra time to journeys when they can not advise how long you will be delayed and when you are unable to leave your child at school unattended? what kind of stupid advice is that from the council anyway? if whoever planned these roadworks is reading this you are an absolute idiot and should not be in that job. all4one
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6:19pm Tue 6 Nov 12

anti wrinkle says...

Studland
Its so tranquil in this bucolic place
thank you road workers.
Studland Its so tranquil in this bucolic place thank you road workers. anti wrinkle
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6:41pm Tue 6 Nov 12

Dorsetstrider says...

There is another way the people could air their views.

If everyone that needs to travel in to Poole for work, school, college etc called in sick blaming the traffic chaos I'm sure this would get someone to take action. Shops, buisnesses, schools, colleges, all closed due to staffing issues I'm sure would even raise eyebrows at central government level. You watch DCC, Wessex Water, Town Planners etc move then as they try to save their jobs.

Alternatively overwhelm your local MP with letters demanding he raise this as an issue in the House of Commons.

Affermative action people, it's a good thing!
There is another way the people could air their views. If everyone that needs to travel in to Poole for work, school, college etc called in sick blaming the traffic chaos I'm sure this would get someone to take action. Shops, buisnesses, schools, colleges, all closed due to staffing issues I'm sure would even raise eyebrows at central government level. You watch DCC, Wessex Water, Town Planners etc move then as they try to save their jobs. Alternatively overwhelm your local MP with letters demanding he raise this as an issue in the House of Commons. Affermative action people, it's a good thing! Dorsetstrider
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7:59pm Tue 6 Nov 12

dorsetspeed says...

I've started a facebook page for this, PooleTraffic. It will take a couple of days to show in the search, here's the direct link for now:

http://www.facebook.
com/groups/441566705
879882/


Please join the group, perhaps if we get together we can do something about these buffoons.


There has been much concern for many years about poor road safety policing in Dorset, Poole and Bournemouth. The councils provide a good part of this concern, proving time and time again that they are incompetent and unconcerned about the public they are meant to serve.

We now have a perfect example: the roadworks going on in Upton / Hamworthy, coinciding also with routine maintenance of the Sandbanks ferry.

No doubt these things need doing but none of them are surprises – the water main has been dug up countless times over more than a year. Bridge inspections should reveal required work well before that work becomes critical. Routine maintenance can be rescheduled so that we don’t have 3 main routes out of action at the same time. It really isn’t rocket science.

These people seem not to have the faintest clue about the level of misery and cost they are putting on the people and businesses paying their wages.

Enough is enough. Please join this group, together we can put some proper pressure on the councils to start giving the public some degree of respect on these important matters.
I've started a facebook page for this, PooleTraffic. It will take a couple of days to show in the search, here's the direct link for now: http://www.facebook. com/groups/441566705 879882/ Please join the group, perhaps if we get together we can do something about these buffoons. There has been much concern for many years about poor road safety policing in Dorset, Poole and Bournemouth. The councils provide a good part of this concern, proving time and time again that they are incompetent and unconcerned about the public they are meant to serve. We now have a perfect example: the roadworks going on in Upton / Hamworthy, coinciding also with routine maintenance of the Sandbanks ferry. No doubt these things need doing but none of them are surprises – the water main has been dug up countless times over more than a year. Bridge inspections should reveal required work well before that work becomes critical. Routine maintenance can be rescheduled so that we don’t have 3 main routes out of action at the same time. It really isn’t rocket science. These people seem not to have the faintest clue about the level of misery and cost they are putting on the people and businesses paying their wages. Enough is enough. Please join this group, together we can put some proper pressure on the councils to start giving the public some degree of respect on these important matters. dorsetspeed
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10:33pm Tue 6 Nov 12

mysticalshoelace says...

As I see it we pay to use the roads via road taxes so that makes us paying customers and if we can't use the roads that we've paid to drive on then we should be entitled to a rebate. If everyone that's been inconvenienced by the complete incompetence shown by the DoT and Council wrote and invoiced them for the working time lost then at the very least having to open and respond to all those letters would inconvenience them too.
As I see it we pay to use the roads via road taxes so that makes us paying customers and if we can't use the roads that we've paid to drive on then we should be entitled to a rebate. If everyone that's been inconvenienced by the complete incompetence shown by the DoT and Council wrote and invoiced them for the working time lost then at the very least having to open and respond to all those letters would inconvenience them too. mysticalshoelace
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6:52am Wed 7 Nov 12

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

tricky1007 wrote:
Dont know what people are moaning about, seems fine over here near castlepoint! If you live in an area with restricted access its obvious if there is an accident/roadworks it will be hard to move about. Need to think about these things when you move into a place!
Moved away from Castlepoint because of the crime and the tramps..............
[quote][p][bold]tricky1007[/bold] wrote: Dont know what people are moaning about, seems fine over here near castlepoint! If you live in an area with restricted access its obvious if there is an accident/roadworks it will be hard to move about. Need to think about these things when you move into a place![/p][/quote]Moved away from Castlepoint because of the crime and the tramps.............. Letcommonsenseprevail
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6:53am Wed 7 Nov 12

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

anti wrinkle wrote:
Studland Its so tranquil in this bucolic place thank you road workers.
you won't be saying that next time it catches fire and the emeregency vehicles can't get through. Muppet.
[quote][p][bold]anti wrinkle[/bold] wrote: Studland Its so tranquil in this bucolic place thank you road workers.[/p][/quote]you won't be saying that next time it catches fire and the emeregency vehicles can't get through. Muppet. Letcommonsenseprevail
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8:26am Wed 7 Nov 12

anti wrinkle says...

Letcommonsenseprevai
l
wrote:
anti wrinkle wrote:
Studland Its so tranquil in this bucolic place thank you road workers.
you won't be saying that next time it catches fire and the emeregency vehicles can't get through. Muppet.
Is this your real name,
We don't have heath fires when the visitors stay away
Also why do bedsit dwellers always sign off with Muppet
Are you a ..........
[quote][p][bold]Letcommonsenseprevai l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]anti wrinkle[/bold] wrote: Studland Its so tranquil in this bucolic place thank you road workers.[/p][/quote]you won't be saying that next time it catches fire and the emeregency vehicles can't get through. Muppet.[/p][/quote]Is this your real name, We don't have heath fires when the visitors stay away Also why do bedsit dwellers always sign off with Muppet Are you a .......... anti wrinkle
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8:34am Wed 7 Nov 12

Shogun50 says...

They not only disrupt our lives during the day but also at night. We were awoken at 0100 this morning with a hammering, thumping, banging noise which lasted well over an hour - it must be those night roadworks. We are in Hamworthy, so how bad was it for those living nearby.
They not only disrupt our lives during the day but also at night. We were awoken at 0100 this morning with a hammering, thumping, banging noise which lasted well over an hour - it must be those night roadworks. We are in Hamworthy, so how bad was it for those living nearby. Shogun50
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8:45am Wed 7 Nov 12

live-and-let-live says...

i'd like to know what exactly is the urgency regarding work on the upton bypass. would it be that dcc havent got much else lined up for employees at this time of year?
i'd like to know what exactly is the urgency regarding work on the upton bypass. would it be that dcc havent got much else lined up for employees at this time of year? live-and-let-live
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9:28am Wed 7 Nov 12

Wintonian says...

It's all very well blaming Dorset County Council, but they published the works months ago so must have organised it even before that.

The question surely is, who booked it first, DCC or Wessex Water.

As far as I know, the utilities don't have to get permission from any local authority to dig up a road.

While it's always fashionable to blame the councils in the Echo, it would be good to know exactly who arranged what, when.
It's all very well blaming Dorset County Council, but they published the works months ago so must have organised it even before that. The question surely is, who booked it first, DCC or Wessex Water. As far as I know, the utilities don't have to get permission from any local authority to dig up a road. While it's always fashionable to blame the councils in the Echo, it would be good to know exactly who arranged what, when. Wintonian
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12:26pm Wed 7 Nov 12

hamworthygirl says...

Firstly all the smug walkers, cyclist on here are able to get to their schools and places of works with out problems. Good for you, i am a walker myself but not everyone can walk , disabled people for a start there are some that still work and need cars. Bear in mind that some of the people on Turlin Moor have children at Hamworthy schools so have to get to the schools via upton and then go to work. The buses can only run one way VIA upton, its timing isnt it? they leave early but the schools dont open until 830, then they have to allow extra time to get to work, but the children cant be left early at school. So if any of the people who have suggested cycling and walking can come up with a good plan for just that then please do.
Firstly all the smug walkers, cyclist on here are able to get to their schools and places of works with out problems. Good for you, i am a walker myself but not everyone can walk , disabled people for a start there are some that still work and need cars. Bear in mind that some of the people on Turlin Moor have children at Hamworthy schools so have to get to the schools via upton and then go to work. The buses can only run one way VIA upton, its timing isnt it? they leave early but the schools dont open until 830, then they have to allow extra time to get to work, but the children cant be left early at school. So if any of the people who have suggested cycling and walking can come up with a good plan for just that then please do. hamworthygirl
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2:56pm Wed 7 Nov 12

refman says...

Panic over! Echo travel news states Upton Bypass only medium severity so ok then!! Perhaps Poole Borough Council have put up Poole closed until further notice signs.
Panic over! Echo travel news states Upton Bypass only medium severity so ok then!! Perhaps Poole Borough Council have put up Poole closed until further notice signs. refman
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3:49pm Wed 7 Nov 12

cyclejim says...

mysticalshoelace wrote:
As I see it we pay to use the roads via road taxes so that makes us paying customers and if we can't use the roads that we've paid to drive on then we should be entitled to a rebate. If everyone that's been inconvenienced by the complete incompetence shown by the DoT and Council wrote and invoiced them for the working time lost then at the very least having to open and respond to all those letters would inconvenience them too.
If you want to complain using that avenue, I'd change your tack. We pay for the roads through general taxation through having a job, buying things, council tax etc.

We do NOT pay for the roads via road tax as that no longer exists and Vehicle Excise Duty (the tax on emissions), does not go into that pot either.
[quote][p][bold]mysticalshoelace[/bold] wrote: As I see it we pay to use the roads via road taxes so that makes us paying customers and if we can't use the roads that we've paid to drive on then we should be entitled to a rebate. If everyone that's been inconvenienced by the complete incompetence shown by the DoT and Council wrote and invoiced them for the working time lost then at the very least having to open and respond to all those letters would inconvenience them too.[/p][/quote]If you want to complain using that avenue, I'd change your tack. We pay for the roads through general taxation through having a job, buying things, council tax etc. We do NOT pay for the roads via road tax as that no longer exists and Vehicle Excise Duty (the tax on emissions), does not go into that pot either. cyclejim
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4:01pm Wed 7 Nov 12

Huey says...

So now they have realised their monumental balls up and **cked off thousands, will we get a "sorry" from the bunch of incompetent buffons who thought the sceme up in the first place?
So now they have realised their monumental balls up and **cked off thousands, will we get a "sorry" from the bunch of incompetent buffons who thought the sceme up in the first place? Huey
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4:21pm Wed 7 Nov 12

vicjoaid says...

I live in Hamworthy and am getting married on Saturday morning! Traffic is bad enough now but when they close the road in both directions it'll be worse!! Glad I have a week off work next week-I might just hibernate!! :(
Stressed.com
I live in Hamworthy and am getting married on Saturday morning! Traffic is bad enough now but when they close the road in both directions it'll be worse!! Glad I have a week off work next week-I might just hibernate!! :( Stressed.com vicjoaid
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4:27pm Wed 7 Nov 12

EGHH says...

DCC could not organise a P up in a brewery. To do major roadworks when Wessex Water is doing work on a main road plus when the Sandbanks Ferry is out of action is just stupid. How much do the morons at DCC get paid!
DCC could not organise a P up in a brewery. To do major roadworks when Wessex Water is doing work on a main road plus when the Sandbanks Ferry is out of action is just stupid. How much do the morons at DCC get paid! EGHH
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4:49pm Wed 7 Nov 12

Huey says...

vicjoaid wrote:
I live in Hamworthy and am getting married on Saturday morning! Traffic is bad enough now but when they close the road in both directions it'll be worse!! Glad I have a week off work next week-I might just hibernate!! :( Stressed.com
Congratulations on your wedding, leave plenty of time to get to the church!
[quote][p][bold]vicjoaid[/bold] wrote: I live in Hamworthy and am getting married on Saturday morning! Traffic is bad enough now but when they close the road in both directions it'll be worse!! Glad I have a week off work next week-I might just hibernate!! :( Stressed.com[/p][/quote]Congratulations on your wedding, leave plenty of time to get to the church! Huey
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5:18pm Wed 7 Nov 12

diddydot1 says...

ok so road is closed from basically murco garage to train tunnel. road is about to collapse and is unsafe for cars to drive on turlin moor residents can only turn right to go out and come back over bridges and up. road hopefully should b re-opened to southbound traffic from monday morning

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ok so road is closed from basically murco garage to train tunnel. road is about to collapse and is unsafe for cars to drive on turlin moor residents can only turn right to go out and come back over bridges and up. road hopefully should b re-opened to southbound traffic from monday morning A few seconds ago · Like diddydot1
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5:30pm Wed 7 Nov 12

yesitsmeagain says...

emergancy repairs again to the same sewer that they repaired not long ago , hope they fix it for good lol
emergancy repairs again to the same sewer that they repaired not long ago , hope they fix it for good lol yesitsmeagain
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5:37pm Wed 7 Nov 12

diddydot1 says...

cherribare wrote:
Utter Madness!!!!! I live in Turlin Moor and its been bad enough for the last couple of weeks, not only do I have to do an approx 8 mile detour to get petrol/cash from the cash point or to pop into town I now have to sit in hours of traffic for the privilege. I feel completely trapped in my own home as the only 'way out' is by train' and to think this will carry on until xmas, I wonder if Wessex Water will be compensating the residents of Hamworhy and Turlin Moor or if Poole Borough council will care give a discount on our council tax?? ...... thought not!
lol no compensation for us turlin moor residents ive asked that already... is beyond a joke the money its costing us all in fuel/public transport AAARRRGGG
[quote][p][bold]cherribare[/bold] wrote: Utter Madness!!!!! I live in Turlin Moor and its been bad enough for the last couple of weeks, not only do I have to do an approx 8 mile detour to get petrol/cash from the cash point or to pop into town I now have to sit in hours of traffic for the privilege. I feel completely trapped in my own home as the only 'way out' is by train' and to think this will carry on until xmas, I wonder if Wessex Water will be compensating the residents of Hamworhy and Turlin Moor or if Poole Borough council will care give a discount on our council tax?? ...... thought not![/p][/quote]lol no compensation for us turlin moor residents ive asked that already... is beyond a joke the money its costing us all in fuel/public transport AAARRRGGG diddydot1
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5:41pm Wed 7 Nov 12

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

anti wrinkle wrote:
Letcommonsenseprevai

l
wrote:
anti wrinkle wrote:
Studland Its so tranquil in this bucolic place thank you road workers.
you won't be saying that next time it catches fire and the emeregency vehicles can't get through. Muppet.
Is this your real name,
We don't have heath fires when the visitors stay away
Also why do bedsit dwellers always sign off with Muppet
Are you a ..........
Yeah, course that's my real name........ Anyway, I like coming to Studland. I especially like the way all the locals stand and point, opened mouthed, at cars as they go past (with one of their twelve fingers).
[quote][p][bold]anti wrinkle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Letcommonsenseprevai l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]anti wrinkle[/bold] wrote: Studland Its so tranquil in this bucolic place thank you road workers.[/p][/quote]you won't be saying that next time it catches fire and the emeregency vehicles can't get through. Muppet.[/p][/quote]Is this your real name, We don't have heath fires when the visitors stay away Also why do bedsit dwellers always sign off with Muppet Are you a ..........[/p][/quote]Yeah, course that's my real name........ Anyway, I like coming to Studland. I especially like the way all the locals stand and point, opened mouthed, at cars as they go past (with one of their twelve fingers). Letcommonsenseprevail
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5:42pm Wed 7 Nov 12

Dorsetstrider says...

Can someone provide clarity on what precisely "Blandford Road closed in both directions" actually means?

Are we saying that the residents of Turlin Moor who are stuck slap bang in the middle of the road works only mode of transport for the duration will be by foot?

Wessex waters attitude to the disruption caused to the residents of Turlin Moor is a disgrace. This I beleive is the 5th time since January that this junction has been torn up. I've lost count of how many times it has been worked on since the junction was redesigned when Lidl opened.

I would like to know what (if anything) the local MP is doing to secure compensation from Wessex Water for the residence of Turlin Moor for the current unacceptable state of affairs wessex water have created as a result of the incompitence of their workers?
Can someone provide clarity on what precisely "Blandford Road closed in both directions" actually means? Are we saying that the residents of Turlin Moor who are stuck slap bang in the middle of the road works only mode of transport for the duration will be by foot? Wessex waters attitude to the disruption caused to the residents of Turlin Moor is a disgrace. This I beleive is the 5th time since January that this junction has been torn up. I've lost count of how many times it has been worked on since the junction was redesigned when Lidl opened. I would like to know what (if anything) the local MP is doing to secure compensation from Wessex Water for the residence of Turlin Moor for the current unacceptable state of affairs wessex water have created as a result of the incompitence of their workers? Dorsetstrider
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5:44pm Wed 7 Nov 12

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

Wintonian wrote:
It's all very well blaming Dorset County Council, but they published the works months ago so must have organised it even before that.

The question surely is, who booked it first, DCC or Wessex Water.

As far as I know, the utilities don't have to get permission from any local authority to dig up a road.

While it's always fashionable to blame the councils in the Echo, it would be good to know exactly who arranged what, when.
Er, wrong, actually. No announcement was ever made that the uptown bypass would be closed eastbound at intersection with blandford road. That's what is causing most of the problems.........
[quote][p][bold]Wintonian[/bold] wrote: It's all very well blaming Dorset County Council, but they published the works months ago so must have organised it even before that. The question surely is, who booked it first, DCC or Wessex Water. As far as I know, the utilities don't have to get permission from any local authority to dig up a road. While it's always fashionable to blame the councils in the Echo, it would be good to know exactly who arranged what, when.[/p][/quote]Er, wrong, actually. No announcement was ever made that the uptown bypass would be closed eastbound at intersection with blandford road. That's what is causing most of the problems......... Letcommonsenseprevail
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5:55pm Wed 7 Nov 12

live-and-let-live says...

any other country would have arranged a temporary detour round the back of turlin moor rec. or through allens lane.
any other country would have arranged a temporary detour round the back of turlin moor rec. or through allens lane. live-and-let-live
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6:04pm Wed 7 Nov 12

diddydot1 says...

Dorsetstrider wrote:
Can someone provide clarity on what precisely "Blandford Road closed in both directions" actually means?

Are we saying that the residents of Turlin Moor who are stuck slap bang in the middle of the road works only mode of transport for the duration will be by foot?

Wessex waters attitude to the disruption caused to the residents of Turlin Moor is a disgrace. This I beleive is the 5th time since January that this junction has been torn up. I've lost count of how many times it has been worked on since the junction was redesigned when Lidl opened.

I would like to know what (if anything) the local MP is doing to secure compensation from Wessex Water for the residence of Turlin Moor for the current unacceptable state of affairs wessex water have created as a result of the incompitence of their workers?
ok so road is closed from basically murco garage to train tunnel. road is about to collapse and is unsafe for cars to drive on turlin moor residents can only turn right to go out and come back over bridges and up. road hopefully should b re-opened to southbound traffic from monday morning. i spoke to w/w about compo guess wot the reply was lol

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[quote][p][bold]Dorsetstrider[/bold] wrote: Can someone provide clarity on what precisely "Blandford Road closed in both directions" actually means? Are we saying that the residents of Turlin Moor who are stuck slap bang in the middle of the road works only mode of transport for the duration will be by foot? Wessex waters attitude to the disruption caused to the residents of Turlin Moor is a disgrace. This I beleive is the 5th time since January that this junction has been torn up. I've lost count of how many times it has been worked on since the junction was redesigned when Lidl opened. I would like to know what (if anything) the local MP is doing to secure compensation from Wessex Water for the residence of Turlin Moor for the current unacceptable state of affairs wessex water have created as a result of the incompitence of their workers?[/p][/quote]ok so road is closed from basically murco garage to train tunnel. road is about to collapse and is unsafe for cars to drive on turlin moor residents can only turn right to go out and come back over bridges and up. road hopefully should b re-opened to southbound traffic from monday morning. i spoke to w/w about compo guess wot the reply was lol A few seconds ago · Like diddydot1
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6:57pm Wed 7 Nov 12

vicjoaid says...

Have Wessex Water said what time they are going to close Blandford Road?
Have Wessex Water said what time they are going to close Blandford Road? vicjoaid
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8:27pm Wed 7 Nov 12

cmryan says...

Dorset Highways dept has no consideration for local people and businesses. All it takes is some planning & coordination to avoid the A35 roadworks and Hamworthy sewage repairs clashing but do they care?
Let's put some pressure on Wessex Water too - 3 months for a short stretch of sewerage is too long. Get some manpower on the job!

And to all those advocating bikes: try getting 2 kids to school in Upton and 1 to Lytchett Matravers in 15 minutes by bike!
Dorset Highways dept has no consideration for local people and businesses. All it takes is some planning & coordination to avoid the A35 roadworks and Hamworthy sewage repairs clashing but do they care? Let's put some pressure on Wessex Water too - 3 months for a short stretch of sewerage is too long. Get some manpower on the job! And to all those advocating bikes: try getting 2 kids to school in Upton and 1 to Lytchett Matravers in 15 minutes by bike! cmryan
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11:02pm Wed 7 Nov 12

Treaclej says...

I keep seeing DCC's statements saying that the work on the Policemans Lane bridge is essential..is it because there is something they are not telling the residents of Upton..we have been fighting their plans to build 80 houses on the small green belt field at Policemans Lane (next to the by-pass) for ages..is it that they have passed plans for these properties against all the residents wishes, and are strengthening the bridge for all the extra traffic that will be using it to get to these properties?
I keep seeing DCC's statements saying that the work on the Policemans Lane bridge is essential..is it because there is something they are not telling the residents of Upton..we have been fighting their plans to build 80 houses on the small green belt field at Policemans Lane (next to the by-pass) for ages..is it that they have passed plans for these properties against all the residents wishes, and are strengthening the bridge for all the extra traffic that will be using it to get to these properties? Treaclej
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11:11pm Wed 7 Nov 12

s-pb2 says...

Road repairs & sewage and water works have to be done at some point and there will never be a time which is convenient to everybody. They obviously need to be done. If they wernt people would be moaning about that as well. So stop winging like petulant children with whiny voices and adjust routines. It really isnt difficult. People are behaving as if roadworks have never happened before.
Road repairs & sewage and water works have to be done at some point and there will never be a time which is convenient to everybody. They obviously need to be done. If they wernt people would be moaning about that as well. So stop winging like petulant children with whiny voices and adjust routines. It really isnt difficult. People are behaving as if roadworks have never happened before. s-pb2
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11:20pm Wed 7 Nov 12

Dorsetstrider says...

s-pb2 wrote:
Road repairs & sewage and water works have to be done at some point and there will never be a time which is convenient to everybody. They obviously need to be done. If they wernt people would be moaning about that as well. So stop winging like petulant children with whiny voices and adjust routines. It really isnt difficult. People are behaving as if roadworks have never happened before.
I don't think anyone here is complaining about the fact that work has to be done... The reason people are complaining is because of the total lack of organisation and foresight demonstrated by the people that organised these roadworks... and in the case of Wessex Water why these roadworks have had to be done 5 times in the last 10 months and countless times over the past 3 years.

Perhaps if the organisations involved gave people a proper explaination rather than a sound byte people would be a little more understanding.
[quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: Road repairs & sewage and water works have to be done at some point and there will never be a time which is convenient to everybody. They obviously need to be done. If they wernt people would be moaning about that as well. So stop winging like petulant children with whiny voices and adjust routines. It really isnt difficult. People are behaving as if roadworks have never happened before.[/p][/quote]I don't think anyone here is complaining about the fact that work has to be done... The reason people are complaining is because of the total lack of organisation and foresight demonstrated by the people that organised these roadworks... and in the case of Wessex Water why these roadworks have had to be done 5 times in the last 10 months and countless times over the past 3 years. Perhaps if the organisations involved gave people a proper explaination rather than a sound byte people would be a little more understanding. Dorsetstrider
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11:50pm Wed 7 Nov 12

s-pb2 says...

Dorsetstrider wrote:
s-pb2 wrote:
Road repairs & sewage and water works have to be done at some point and there will never be a time which is convenient to everybody. They obviously need to be done. If they wernt people would be moaning about that as well. So stop winging like petulant children with whiny voices and adjust routines. It really isnt difficult. People are behaving as if roadworks have never happened before.
I don't think anyone here is complaining about the fact that work has to be done... The reason people are complaining is because of the total lack of organisation and foresight demonstrated by the people that organised these roadworks... and in the case of Wessex Water why these roadworks have had to be done 5 times in the last 10 months and countless times over the past 3 years.

Perhaps if the organisations involved gave people a proper explaination rather than a sound byte people would be a little more understanding.
I can give you an explanation why. The works done so far hasnt sorted the problem so Wessex Water need to investigate more and try different solutions. Leaving it would cost more money which would be reflected in peoples water bills. Simple really.
[quote][p][bold]Dorsetstrider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: Road repairs & sewage and water works have to be done at some point and there will never be a time which is convenient to everybody. They obviously need to be done. If they wernt people would be moaning about that as well. So stop winging like petulant children with whiny voices and adjust routines. It really isnt difficult. People are behaving as if roadworks have never happened before.[/p][/quote]I don't think anyone here is complaining about the fact that work has to be done... The reason people are complaining is because of the total lack of organisation and foresight demonstrated by the people that organised these roadworks... and in the case of Wessex Water why these roadworks have had to be done 5 times in the last 10 months and countless times over the past 3 years. Perhaps if the organisations involved gave people a proper explaination rather than a sound byte people would be a little more understanding.[/p][/quote]I can give you an explanation why. The works done so far hasnt sorted the problem so Wessex Water need to investigate more and try different solutions. Leaving it would cost more money which would be reflected in peoples water bills. Simple really. s-pb2
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8:07am Thu 8 Nov 12

diddydot1 says...

s-pb2 wrote:
Dorsetstrider wrote:
s-pb2 wrote:
Road repairs & sewage and water works have to be done at some point and there will never be a time which is convenient to everybody. They obviously need to be done. If they wernt people would be moaning about that as well. So stop winging like petulant children with whiny voices and adjust routines. It really isnt difficult. People are behaving as if roadworks have never happened before.
I don't think anyone here is complaining about the fact that work has to be done... The reason people are complaining is because of the total lack of organisation and foresight demonstrated by the people that organised these roadworks... and in the case of Wessex Water why these roadworks have had to be done 5 times in the last 10 months and countless times over the past 3 years.

Perhaps if the organisations involved gave people a proper explaination rather than a sound byte people would be a little more understanding.
I can give you an explanation why. The works done so far hasnt sorted the problem so Wessex Water need to investigate more and try different solutions. Leaving it would cost more money which would be reflected in peoples water bills. Simple really.
ok so u want to b of us who live on turlin moor and in the last year have had our routine disrupted many times lots more cost to us havin to re-route having teachers complain of kids being late for school and so on and so on. Stop whingein indeed. im betting if u were one of the unfortunate people this was affecting u would be the first one "whingeing" gggggggrrrrrrrrrr
[quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorsetstrider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: Road repairs & sewage and water works have to be done at some point and there will never be a time which is convenient to everybody. They obviously need to be done. If they wernt people would be moaning about that as well. So stop winging like petulant children with whiny voices and adjust routines. It really isnt difficult. People are behaving as if roadworks have never happened before.[/p][/quote]I don't think anyone here is complaining about the fact that work has to be done... The reason people are complaining is because of the total lack of organisation and foresight demonstrated by the people that organised these roadworks... and in the case of Wessex Water why these roadworks have had to be done 5 times in the last 10 months and countless times over the past 3 years. Perhaps if the organisations involved gave people a proper explaination rather than a sound byte people would be a little more understanding.[/p][/quote]I can give you an explanation why. The works done so far hasnt sorted the problem so Wessex Water need to investigate more and try different solutions. Leaving it would cost more money which would be reflected in peoples water bills. Simple really.[/p][/quote]ok so u want to b of us who live on turlin moor and in the last year have had our routine disrupted many times lots more cost to us havin to re-route having teachers complain of kids being late for school and so on and so on. Stop whingein indeed. im betting if u were one of the unfortunate people this was affecting u would be the first one "whingeing" gggggggrrrrrrrrrr diddydot1
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8:07am Thu 8 Nov 12

dorsetspeed says...

s-pb2 wrote:
Dorsetstrider wrote:
s-pb2 wrote:
Road repairs & sewage and water works have to be done at some point and there will never be a time which is convenient to everybody. They obviously need to be done. If they wernt people would be moaning about that as well. So stop winging like petulant children with whiny voices and adjust routines. It really isnt difficult. People are behaving as if roadworks have never happened before.
I don't think anyone here is complaining about the fact that work has to be done... The reason people are complaining is because of the total lack of organisation and foresight demonstrated by the people that organised these roadworks... and in the case of Wessex Water why these roadworks have had to be done 5 times in the last 10 months and countless times over the past 3 years.

Perhaps if the organisations involved gave people a proper explaination rather than a sound byte people would be a little more understanding.
I can give you an explanation why. The works done so far hasnt sorted the problem so Wessex Water need to investigate more and try different solutions. Leaving it would cost more money which would be reflected in peoples water bills. Simple really.
Dear oh dear. What costs money is bodging the job over and over and over again (with serious disruption every time), and finally, having the cost of ripping it all out and doing it properly anyway.

Do you work for the council by any chance?
[quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorsetstrider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: Road repairs & sewage and water works have to be done at some point and there will never be a time which is convenient to everybody. They obviously need to be done. If they wernt people would be moaning about that as well. So stop winging like petulant children with whiny voices and adjust routines. It really isnt difficult. People are behaving as if roadworks have never happened before.[/p][/quote]I don't think anyone here is complaining about the fact that work has to be done... The reason people are complaining is because of the total lack of organisation and foresight demonstrated by the people that organised these roadworks... and in the case of Wessex Water why these roadworks have had to be done 5 times in the last 10 months and countless times over the past 3 years. Perhaps if the organisations involved gave people a proper explaination rather than a sound byte people would be a little more understanding.[/p][/quote]I can give you an explanation why. The works done so far hasnt sorted the problem so Wessex Water need to investigate more and try different solutions. Leaving it would cost more money which would be reflected in peoples water bills. Simple really.[/p][/quote]Dear oh dear. What costs money is bodging the job over and over and over again (with serious disruption every time), and finally, having the cost of ripping it all out and doing it properly anyway. Do you work for the council by any chance? dorsetspeed
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10:40am Thu 8 Nov 12

jeebuscripes says...

diddydot1 wrote:
s-pb2 wrote:
Dorsetstrider wrote:
s-pb2 wrote:
Road repairs & sewage and water works have to be done at some point and there will never be a time which is convenient to everybody. They obviously need to be done. If they wernt people would be moaning about that as well. So stop winging like petulant children with whiny voices and adjust routines. It really isnt difficult. People are behaving as if roadworks have never happened before.
I don't think anyone here is complaining about the fact that work has to be done... The reason people are complaining is because of the total lack of organisation and foresight demonstrated by the people that organised these roadworks... and in the case of Wessex Water why these roadworks have had to be done 5 times in the last 10 months and countless times over the past 3 years.

Perhaps if the organisations involved gave people a proper explaination rather than a sound byte people would be a little more understanding.
I can give you an explanation why. The works done so far hasnt sorted the problem so Wessex Water need to investigate more and try different solutions. Leaving it would cost more money which would be reflected in peoples water bills. Simple really.
ok so u want to b of us who live on turlin moor and in the last year have had our routine disrupted many times lots more cost to us havin to re-route having teachers complain of kids being late for school and so on and so on. Stop whingein indeed. im betting if u were one of the unfortunate people this was affecting u would be the first one "whingeing" gggggggrrrrrrrrrr
I wouldn't like to live in Turlin Moor.
[quote][p][bold]diddydot1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorsetstrider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: Road repairs & sewage and water works have to be done at some point and there will never be a time which is convenient to everybody. They obviously need to be done. If they wernt people would be moaning about that as well. So stop winging like petulant children with whiny voices and adjust routines. It really isnt difficult. People are behaving as if roadworks have never happened before.[/p][/quote]I don't think anyone here is complaining about the fact that work has to be done... The reason people are complaining is because of the total lack of organisation and foresight demonstrated by the people that organised these roadworks... and in the case of Wessex Water why these roadworks have had to be done 5 times in the last 10 months and countless times over the past 3 years. Perhaps if the organisations involved gave people a proper explaination rather than a sound byte people would be a little more understanding.[/p][/quote]I can give you an explanation why. The works done so far hasnt sorted the problem so Wessex Water need to investigate more and try different solutions. Leaving it would cost more money which would be reflected in peoples water bills. Simple really.[/p][/quote]ok so u want to b of us who live on turlin moor and in the last year have had our routine disrupted many times lots more cost to us havin to re-route having teachers complain of kids being late for school and so on and so on. Stop whingein indeed. im betting if u were one of the unfortunate people this was affecting u would be the first one "whingeing" gggggggrrrrrrrrrr[/p][/quote]I wouldn't like to live in Turlin Moor. jeebuscripes
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11:28am Thu 8 Nov 12

Wintonian says...

Letcommonsenseprevai
l
wrote:
Wintonian wrote:
It's all very well blaming Dorset County Council, but they published the works months ago so must have organised it even before that.

The question surely is, who booked it first, DCC or Wessex Water.

As far as I know, the utilities don't have to get permission from any local authority to dig up a road.

While it's always fashionable to blame the councils in the Echo, it would be good to know exactly who arranged what, when.
Er, wrong, actually. No announcement was ever made that the uptown bypass would be closed eastbound at intersection with blandford road. That's what is causing most of the problems.........
I was simply saying, the works were arranged months ago. Presumably manpower, traffic orders and other legal matters take a lot of organising. So they had planned this date and all the legal paperwork supporting it.

If Wessex Water have come along afterwards and done their work, then surely it is Wessex Water rather than DCC who are at fault for the clash? (But, if it is genuinely an unforeseeable emergency, then it's just one of those things.)

Without having been told who did what, when, we can't really say who is at fault.
[quote][p][bold]Letcommonsenseprevai l[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wintonian[/bold] wrote: It's all very well blaming Dorset County Council, but they published the works months ago so must have organised it even before that. The question surely is, who booked it first, DCC or Wessex Water. As far as I know, the utilities don't have to get permission from any local authority to dig up a road. While it's always fashionable to blame the councils in the Echo, it would be good to know exactly who arranged what, when.[/p][/quote]Er, wrong, actually. No announcement was ever made that the uptown bypass would be closed eastbound at intersection with blandford road. That's what is causing most of the problems.........[/p][/quote]I was simply saying, the works were arranged months ago. Presumably manpower, traffic orders and other legal matters take a lot of organising. So they had planned this date and all the legal paperwork supporting it. If Wessex Water have come along afterwards and done their work, then surely it is Wessex Water rather than DCC who are at fault for the clash? (But, if it is genuinely an unforeseeable emergency, then it's just one of those things.) Without having been told who did what, when, we can't really say who is at fault. Wintonian
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11:50am Thu 8 Nov 12

diddydot1 says...

jeebuscripes wrote:
diddydot1 wrote:
s-pb2 wrote:
Dorsetstrider wrote:
s-pb2 wrote:
Road repairs & sewage and water works have to be done at some point and there will never be a time which is convenient to everybody. They obviously need to be done. If they wernt people would be moaning about that as well. So stop winging like petulant children with whiny voices and adjust routines. It really isnt difficult. People are behaving as if roadworks have never happened before.
I don't think anyone here is complaining about the fact that work has to be done... The reason people are complaining is because of the total lack of organisation and foresight demonstrated by the people that organised these roadworks... and in the case of Wessex Water why these roadworks have had to be done 5 times in the last 10 months and countless times over the past 3 years.

Perhaps if the organisations involved gave people a proper explaination rather than a sound byte people would be a little more understanding.
I can give you an explanation why. The works done so far hasnt sorted the problem so Wessex Water need to investigate more and try different solutions. Leaving it would cost more money which would be reflected in peoples water bills. Simple really.
ok so u want to b of us who live on turlin moor and in the last year have had our routine disrupted many times lots more cost to us havin to re-route having teachers complain of kids being late for school and so on and so on. Stop whingein indeed. im betting if u were one of the unfortunate people this was affecting u would be the first one "whingeing" gggggggrrrrrrrrrr
I wouldn't like to live in Turlin Moor.
wot an absolutely childish statement to make "i wouldnt want to live in Turlin Moor" have u ever lived here or just heard the gossip from other mindless people who judge before knowinganything???? grow up
[quote][p][bold]jeebuscripes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]diddydot1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorsetstrider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: Road repairs & sewage and water works have to be done at some point and there will never be a time which is convenient to everybody. They obviously need to be done. If they wernt people would be moaning about that as well. So stop winging like petulant children with whiny voices and adjust routines. It really isnt difficult. People are behaving as if roadworks have never happened before.[/p][/quote]I don't think anyone here is complaining about the fact that work has to be done... The reason people are complaining is because of the total lack of organisation and foresight demonstrated by the people that organised these roadworks... and in the case of Wessex Water why these roadworks have had to be done 5 times in the last 10 months and countless times over the past 3 years. Perhaps if the organisations involved gave people a proper explaination rather than a sound byte people would be a little more understanding.[/p][/quote]I can give you an explanation why. The works done so far hasnt sorted the problem so Wessex Water need to investigate more and try different solutions. Leaving it would cost more money which would be reflected in peoples water bills. Simple really.[/p][/quote]ok so u want to b of us who live on turlin moor and in the last year have had our routine disrupted many times lots more cost to us havin to re-route having teachers complain of kids being late for school and so on and so on. Stop whingein indeed. im betting if u were one of the unfortunate people this was affecting u would be the first one "whingeing" gggggggrrrrrrrrrr[/p][/quote]I wouldn't like to live in Turlin Moor.[/p][/quote]wot an absolutely childish statement to make "i wouldnt want to live in Turlin Moor" have u ever lived here or just heard the gossip from other mindless people who judge before knowinganything???? grow up diddydot1
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11:51am Thu 8 Nov 12

diddydot1 says...

jeebuscripes wrote:
diddydot1 wrote:
s-pb2 wrote:
Dorsetstrider wrote:
s-pb2 wrote:
Road repairs & sewage and water works have to be done at some point and there will never be a time which is convenient to everybody. They obviously need to be done. If they wernt people would be moaning about that as well. So stop winging like petulant children with whiny voices and adjust routines. It really isnt difficult. People are behaving as if roadworks have never happened before.
I don't think anyone here is complaining about the fact that work has to be done... The reason people are complaining is because of the total lack of organisation and foresight demonstrated by the people that organised these roadworks... and in the case of Wessex Water why these roadworks have had to be done 5 times in the last 10 months and countless times over the past 3 years.

Perhaps if the organisations involved gave people a proper explaination rather than a sound byte people would be a little more understanding.
I can give you an explanation why. The works done so far hasnt sorted the problem so Wessex Water need to investigate more and try different solutions. Leaving it would cost more money which would be reflected in peoples water bills. Simple really.
ok so u want to b of us who live on turlin moor and in the last year have had our routine disrupted many times lots more cost to us havin to re-route having teachers complain of kids being late for school and so on and so on. Stop whingein indeed. im betting if u were one of the unfortunate people this was affecting u would be the first one "whingeing" gggggggrrrrrrrrrr
I wouldn't like to live in Turlin Moor.
wot an absolutely childish statement to make "i wouldnt want to live in Turlin Moor" have u ever lived here or just heard the gossip from other mindless people who judge before knowinganything???? grow up
[quote][p][bold]jeebuscripes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]diddydot1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorsetstrider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: Road repairs & sewage and water works have to be done at some point and there will never be a time which is convenient to everybody. They obviously need to be done. If they wernt people would be moaning about that as well. So stop winging like petulant children with whiny voices and adjust routines. It really isnt difficult. People are behaving as if roadworks have never happened before.[/p][/quote]I don't think anyone here is complaining about the fact that work has to be done... The reason people are complaining is because of the total lack of organisation and foresight demonstrated by the people that organised these roadworks... and in the case of Wessex Water why these roadworks have had to be done 5 times in the last 10 months and countless times over the past 3 years. Perhaps if the organisations involved gave people a proper explaination rather than a sound byte people would be a little more understanding.[/p][/quote]I can give you an explanation why. The works done so far hasnt sorted the problem so Wessex Water need to investigate more and try different solutions. Leaving it would cost more money which would be reflected in peoples water bills. Simple really.[/p][/quote]ok so u want to b of us who live on turlin moor and in the last year have had our routine disrupted many times lots more cost to us havin to re-route having teachers complain of kids being late for school and so on and so on. Stop whingein indeed. im betting if u were one of the unfortunate people this was affecting u would be the first one "whingeing" gggggggrrrrrrrrrr[/p][/quote]I wouldn't like to live in Turlin Moor.[/p][/quote]wot an absolutely childish statement to make "i wouldnt want to live in Turlin Moor" have u ever lived here or just heard the gossip from other mindless people who judge before knowinganything???? grow up diddydot1
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12:24pm Thu 8 Nov 12

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

diddydot1 wrote:
jeebuscripes wrote:
diddydot1 wrote:
s-pb2 wrote:
Dorsetstrider wrote:
s-pb2 wrote: Road repairs & sewage and water works have to be done at some point and there will never be a time which is convenient to everybody. They obviously need to be done. If they wernt people would be moaning about that as well. So stop winging like petulant children with whiny voices and adjust routines. It really isnt difficult. People are behaving as if roadworks have never happened before.
I don't think anyone here is complaining about the fact that work has to be done... The reason people are complaining is because of the total lack of organisation and foresight demonstrated by the people that organised these roadworks... and in the case of Wessex Water why these roadworks have had to be done 5 times in the last 10 months and countless times over the past 3 years. Perhaps if the organisations involved gave people a proper explaination rather than a sound byte people would be a little more understanding.
I can give you an explanation why. The works done so far hasnt sorted the problem so Wessex Water need to investigate more and try different solutions. Leaving it would cost more money which would be reflected in peoples water bills. Simple really.
ok so u want to b of us who live on turlin moor and in the last year have had our routine disrupted many times lots more cost to us havin to re-route having teachers complain of kids being late for school and so on and so on. Stop whingein indeed. im betting if u were one of the unfortunate people this was affecting u would be the first one "whingeing" gggggggrrrrrrrrrr
I wouldn't like to live in Turlin Moor.
wot an absolutely childish statement to make "i wouldnt want to live in Turlin Moor" have u ever lived here or just heard the gossip from other mindless people who judge before knowinganything???? grow up
I think it's quite acceptable for someone to say they wouldn't like to live somewhere without actually having lived there before. I've never been to a lot of places, and i know for certain I don't want to live there. I have been to Turlin Moor on 3 occasions and I wasn't impressed - my car got broken into, the rugby posts got stolen and some young scallywags were riding motorcycles across the sports pitches. I know I may have been there on 3 bad days, but on reflection, I wouldn't want to live there either.
[quote][p][bold]diddydot1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jeebuscripes[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]diddydot1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorsetstrider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: Road repairs & sewage and water works have to be done at some point and there will never be a time which is convenient to everybody. They obviously need to be done. If they wernt people would be moaning about that as well. So stop winging like petulant children with whiny voices and adjust routines. It really isnt difficult. People are behaving as if roadworks have never happened before.[/p][/quote]I don't think anyone here is complaining about the fact that work has to be done... The reason people are complaining is because of the total lack of organisation and foresight demonstrated by the people that organised these roadworks... and in the case of Wessex Water why these roadworks have had to be done 5 times in the last 10 months and countless times over the past 3 years. Perhaps if the organisations involved gave people a proper explaination rather than a sound byte people would be a little more understanding.[/p][/quote]I can give you an explanation why. The works done so far hasnt sorted the problem so Wessex Water need to investigate more and try different solutions. Leaving it would cost more money which would be reflected in peoples water bills. Simple really.[/p][/quote]ok so u want to b of us who live on turlin moor and in the last year have had our routine disrupted many times lots more cost to us havin to re-route having teachers complain of kids being late for school and so on and so on. Stop whingein indeed. im betting if u were one of the unfortunate people this was affecting u would be the first one "whingeing" gggggggrrrrrrrrrr[/p][/quote]I wouldn't like to live in Turlin Moor.[/p][/quote]wot an absolutely childish statement to make "i wouldnt want to live in Turlin Moor" have u ever lived here or just heard the gossip from other mindless people who judge before knowinganything???? grow up[/p][/quote]I think it's quite acceptable for someone to say they wouldn't like to live somewhere without actually having lived there before. I've never been to a lot of places, and i know for certain I don't want to live there. I have been to Turlin Moor on 3 occasions and I wasn't impressed - my car got broken into, the rugby posts got stolen and some young scallywags were riding motorcycles across the sports pitches. I know I may have been there on 3 bad days, but on reflection, I wouldn't want to live there either. Letcommonsenseprevail
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12:34pm Thu 8 Nov 12

diddydot1 says...

lol so wher u live u dont have any crime wot so ever huh well lucky u. i have lived here 2 yrs never had my car touched my house damaged or any trouble wot so ever. so your not impressed, like we care and anyway the issue isnt about who finds where we live the pits is it, tell you wot go back to your perfect little world and dont comment on issues you have no idea about
lol so wher u live u dont have any crime wot so ever huh well lucky u. i have lived here 2 yrs never had my car touched my house damaged or any trouble wot so ever. so your not impressed, like we care and anyway the issue isnt about who finds where we live the pits is it, tell you wot go back to your perfect little world and dont comment on issues you have no idea about diddydot1
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1:44pm Thu 8 Nov 12

jeebuscripes says...

diddydot1 wrote:
lol so wher u live u dont have any crime wot so ever huh well lucky u. i have lived here 2 yrs never had my car touched my house damaged or any trouble wot so ever. so your not impressed, like we care and anyway the issue isnt about who finds where we live the pits is it, tell you wot go back to your perfect little world and dont comment on issues you have no idea about
I wasn't making any judgement about Turlin Moor, just saying I wouldn't want to live there.

Do you like living there? It doesn't sound like it, you said your routine has been disrupted many times in the past two years.

Who steals rugby posts anyway?
[quote][p][bold]diddydot1[/bold] wrote: lol so wher u live u dont have any crime wot so ever huh well lucky u. i have lived here 2 yrs never had my car touched my house damaged or any trouble wot so ever. so your not impressed, like we care and anyway the issue isnt about who finds where we live the pits is it, tell you wot go back to your perfect little world and dont comment on issues you have no idea about[/p][/quote]I wasn't making any judgement about Turlin Moor, just saying I wouldn't want to live there. Do you like living there? It doesn't sound like it, you said your routine has been disrupted many times in the past two years. Who steals rugby posts anyway? jeebuscripes
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4:04pm Thu 8 Nov 12

strippervicar says...

diddydot1 wrote:
lol so wher u live u dont have any crime wot so ever huh well lucky u. i have lived here 2 yrs never had my car touched my house damaged or any trouble wot so ever. so your not impressed, like we care and anyway the issue isnt about who finds where we live the pits is it, tell you wot go back to your perfect little world and dont comment on issues you have no idea about
Can anyone translate chav speak for me?
[quote][p][bold]diddydot1[/bold] wrote: lol so wher u live u dont have any crime wot so ever huh well lucky u. i have lived here 2 yrs never had my car touched my house damaged or any trouble wot so ever. so your not impressed, like we care and anyway the issue isnt about who finds where we live the pits is it, tell you wot go back to your perfect little world and dont comment on issues you have no idea about[/p][/quote]Can anyone translate chav speak for me? strippervicar
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7:02pm Thu 8 Nov 12

Dorsetstrider says...

How about we get back to the subject which is the roadworks.

Starting with Wessex water when someone takes 5 attempts in 10 months to fix a problem to say nothing of the numerious times before the year began surely you have to start questioning their compitence? It's very easy to say they are trying different solutions but surely after the first attempt at a quick fix failed it would have been obvious that a more drastic solution was required. And who do you think will end up footing the bill for repeatedly carrying out the same work to "attempt different solutions" my guess is it wont be the chairman or the shareholders!
Maybe I'm being nieve but somehow I doubt that the cost has gone down because of the repeated work before coming to the conclusion that should have been obvious from the start... or at least the 2nd attempt.

As for the A35 fiasco well done to DCC for recognising your mistake and taking steps to mitigate the effects. However the question of who is responsible for the decision to carry out this work when the alternative route for many people was already closed still remains unanswered as does the question of what repercussions can that person expect?
Someone needs to be held accountable to avoid similiar fiascos in future. I would like to make it clear at this point that I am NOT nessicarilly calling for that persons resignation but I do think that at the very least an official repremand and public apology is the least the public should be able to expect.
How about we get back to the subject which is the roadworks. Starting with Wessex water when someone takes 5 attempts in 10 months to fix a problem to say nothing of the numerious times before the year began surely you have to start questioning their compitence? It's very easy to say they are trying different solutions but surely after the first attempt at a quick fix failed it would have been obvious that a more drastic solution was required. And who do you think will end up footing the bill for repeatedly carrying out the same work to "attempt different solutions" my guess is it wont be the chairman or the shareholders! Maybe I'm being nieve but somehow I doubt that the cost has gone down because of the repeated work before coming to the conclusion that should have been obvious from the start... or at least the 2nd attempt. As for the A35 fiasco well done to DCC for recognising your mistake and taking steps to mitigate the effects. However the question of who is responsible for the decision to carry out this work when the alternative route for many people was already closed still remains unanswered as does the question of what repercussions can that person expect? Someone needs to be held accountable to avoid similiar fiascos in future. I would like to make it clear at this point that I am NOT nessicarilly calling for that persons resignation but I do think that at the very least an official repremand and public apology is the least the public should be able to expect. Dorsetstrider
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7:16pm Thu 8 Nov 12

dorsetspeed says...

Dorsetstrider wrote:
How about we get back to the subject which is the roadworks.

Starting with Wessex water when someone takes 5 attempts in 10 months to fix a problem to say nothing of the numerious times before the year began surely you have to start questioning their compitence? It's very easy to say they are trying different solutions but surely after the first attempt at a quick fix failed it would have been obvious that a more drastic solution was required. And who do you think will end up footing the bill for repeatedly carrying out the same work to "attempt different solutions" my guess is it wont be the chairman or the shareholders!
Maybe I'm being nieve but somehow I doubt that the cost has gone down because of the repeated work before coming to the conclusion that should have been obvious from the start... or at least the 2nd attempt.

As for the A35 fiasco well done to DCC for recognising your mistake and taking steps to mitigate the effects. However the question of who is responsible for the decision to carry out this work when the alternative route for many people was already closed still remains unanswered as does the question of what repercussions can that person expect?
Someone needs to be held accountable to avoid similiar fiascos in future. I would like to make it clear at this point that I am NOT nessicarilly calling for that persons resignation but I do think that at the very least an official repremand and public apology is the least the public should be able to expect.
I agree, please check out www.pooletraffic.co.
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[quote][p][bold]Dorsetstrider[/bold] wrote: How about we get back to the subject which is the roadworks. Starting with Wessex water when someone takes 5 attempts in 10 months to fix a problem to say nothing of the numerious times before the year began surely you have to start questioning their compitence? It's very easy to say they are trying different solutions but surely after the first attempt at a quick fix failed it would have been obvious that a more drastic solution was required. And who do you think will end up footing the bill for repeatedly carrying out the same work to "attempt different solutions" my guess is it wont be the chairman or the shareholders! Maybe I'm being nieve but somehow I doubt that the cost has gone down because of the repeated work before coming to the conclusion that should have been obvious from the start... or at least the 2nd attempt. As for the A35 fiasco well done to DCC for recognising your mistake and taking steps to mitigate the effects. However the question of who is responsible for the decision to carry out this work when the alternative route for many people was already closed still remains unanswered as does the question of what repercussions can that person expect? Someone needs to be held accountable to avoid similiar fiascos in future. I would like to make it clear at this point that I am NOT nessicarilly calling for that persons resignation but I do think that at the very least an official repremand and public apology is the least the public should be able to expect.[/p][/quote]I agree, please check out www.pooletraffic.co. uk dorsetspeed
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