Travellers leave Baiter Park - but 12 caravans arrive in Branksome

Travellers leave Baiter Park - but 12 caravans arrive in Branksome

Travellers leave Baiter Park - but 12 caravans arrive in Branksome

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TRAVELLERS are playing a game of cat and mouse with council officials, pulling onto Branksome’s Beach Road car park just hours before an eviction notice would have forced them to leave Poole’s Baiter Park.

A dozen traveller caravans and two motor homes drove onto the upper tier of the Beach Road car park earlier today, hours after the unauthorised encampment was served with an eviction notice at Baiter.

Borough of Poole have confirmed that some of the travellers at Beach Road are the same as those who moved on from Baiter around 7am on Friday.  

 

Poole council’s regulatory team manager Jeff Morley said: “We are aware that the travellers who have recently been occupying Baiter Park have now left the site.

“Some of these travellers have now set up an unauthorised encampment on the top part of Beach Road car park.

“The remaining areas of the car park are however still open for public use. 

“As this car park is particularly well-used during the school summer holidays we will be serving the group with direction orders on Monday.”

Direction orders are a pre-cursor to securing court time, where officers will apply for an eviction order.

Mr Morley, said: “If they do not move on we will take this matter to court on Wednesday.”

The borough also insists moves will soon be underway to secure the site at Baiter – by placing a large number of Purbeck stones around the entrance to prevent further vehicle access.

Holiday-makers continued to use Beach Road car park, as it is close to Poole’s popular Branksome Beach.

Visitor Thomas Morrison said: “I can see why some people may feel uncomfortable parking their cars when there’s a lot of traveller caravans parked up, but if anything, at least there’s a human presence here to deter criminals.”

Nearby residents had a different take on the situation. 

One, who asked not to be named by the Daily Echo, said: “Frankly, it is worrying for a lot of neighbours to have them setting up home in the car park. 

“They’ve been in there before and it does feel intimidating to a certain degree.”

Borough of Poole also served direction orders on the unauthorised encampment adjacent to Staples car park, Fleetsbridge.

If this group do not leave the site, the council will go to court on Wednesday to seek an eviction order.

Comments have been opened on this story but please note: any reference to gypsies or any racially offensive term will cause them to be closed and you may find your account suspended. Romany Gypsies and Irish Travellers are legally recognised as ethnic groups, and protected by the Race Relations Act. Please keep your comments to this particular incident and do not generalise. Thanks for your co-operation.

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1:50pm Fri 25 Jul 14

adspacebroker says...

'Council officials confirmed the travellers left this morning'....with the driver of the lead tranny van waving and shouting, thanks for the rent free holiday with beautiful harbour views and lovely toilets, see you at Branksome later on!
'Council officials confirmed the travellers left this morning'....with the driver of the lead tranny van waving and shouting, thanks for the rent free holiday with beautiful harbour views and lovely toilets, see you at Branksome later on! adspacebroker
  • Score: 62

1:57pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Wackerone says...

Nobody from Poole Council or the Echo has yet answered my question as to how Portsmouth Council and Hampshire Police can remove travellers who set up on portsmouth park and ride car park within 24 hours after being threatened with prosecution if they didn't move immediately. As in Poole, Portsmouth have no transit camp so none of the usual drivel from councillors, police or the PCC please.
Nobody from Poole Council or the Echo has yet answered my question as to how Portsmouth Council and Hampshire Police can remove travellers who set up on portsmouth park and ride car park within 24 hours after being threatened with prosecution if they didn't move immediately. As in Poole, Portsmouth have no transit camp so none of the usual drivel from councillors, police or the PCC please. Wackerone
  • Score: 63

2:02pm Fri 25 Jul 14

skydriver says...

These people are just giving the courts and council the run around .
And they are all powerless to act, as it politically correct to say and do nothing , for fear of upsetting them, what a joke, spineless courts,council
and police .fine them clamp them that should do the trick , after all that's what would happen to the rest of us normal folk who try to do things right
These people are just giving the courts and council the run around . And they are all powerless to act, as it politically correct to say and do nothing , for fear of upsetting them, what a joke, spineless courts,council and police .fine them clamp them that should do the trick , after all that's what would happen to the rest of us normal folk who try to do things right skydriver
  • Score: 57

2:09pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Wackerone says...

skydriver wrote:
These people are just giving the courts and council the run around .
And they are all powerless to act, as it politically correct to say and do nothing , for fear of upsetting them, what a joke, spineless courts,council
and police .fine them clamp them that should do the trick , after all that's what would happen to the rest of us normal folk who try to do things right
You have obviously not read my post. The police and council are not powerless to act. It just appears that the authorities in Poole are for some reason reluctant to do so. Turn up in Portsmouth on a Sunday evening, kick off on monad evening. Turn up in Poole, free holiday for a week, no questions asked.
[quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: These people are just giving the courts and council the run around . And they are all powerless to act, as it politically correct to say and do nothing , for fear of upsetting them, what a joke, spineless courts,council and police .fine them clamp them that should do the trick , after all that's what would happen to the rest of us normal folk who try to do things right[/p][/quote]You have obviously not read my post. The police and council are not powerless to act. It just appears that the authorities in Poole are for some reason reluctant to do so. Turn up in Portsmouth on a Sunday evening, kick off on monad evening. Turn up in Poole, free holiday for a week, no questions asked. Wackerone
  • Score: 43

2:10pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Wackerone says...

Wackerone wrote:
skydriver wrote:
These people are just giving the courts and council the run around .
And they are all powerless to act, as it politically correct to say and do nothing , for fear of upsetting them, what a joke, spineless courts,council
and police .fine them clamp them that should do the trick , after all that's what would happen to the rest of us normal folk who try to do things right
You have obviously not read my post. The police and council are not powerless to act. It just appears that the authorities in Poole are for some reason reluctant to do so. Turn up in Portsmouth on a Sunday evening, kick off on monad evening. Turn up in Poole, free holiday for a week, no questions asked.
.....should read 'kicked out on Monday evening', apologies.
[quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: These people are just giving the courts and council the run around . And they are all powerless to act, as it politically correct to say and do nothing , for fear of upsetting them, what a joke, spineless courts,council and police .fine them clamp them that should do the trick , after all that's what would happen to the rest of us normal folk who try to do things right[/p][/quote]You have obviously not read my post. The police and council are not powerless to act. It just appears that the authorities in Poole are for some reason reluctant to do so. Turn up in Portsmouth on a Sunday evening, kick off on monad evening. Turn up in Poole, free holiday for a week, no questions asked.[/p][/quote].....should read 'kicked out on Monday evening', apologies. Wackerone
  • Score: 22

2:17pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

Travellers leave Baiter Park - but 12 caravans arrive in Branksome.
It remains unclear at this time if any of the Beach Road travellers are the same as those from Baiter Park.

.......

Number plates are clear. In fact mine can be read at 100 meters with good eyesight. Or your reporters 600mm zoom lenses could do so at 400 meters.
Get down there and earn your wages.
Travellers leave Baiter Park - but 12 caravans arrive in Branksome. It remains unclear at this time if any of the Beach Road travellers are the same as those from Baiter Park. ....... Number plates are clear. In fact mine can be read at 100 meters with good eyesight. Or your reporters 600mm zoom lenses could do so at 400 meters. Get down there and earn your wages. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 41

2:27pm Fri 25 Jul 14

muscliffman says...

You have to grudgingly admire them, because these 'travellers' - if that indeed is what they even are - evidently have far more intelligence, initiative and worldly wisdom than most of the laid back and hapless public officials that they are completely running rings around.
You have to grudgingly admire them, because these 'travellers' - if that indeed is what they even are - evidently have far more intelligence, initiative and worldly wisdom than most of the laid back and hapless public officials that they are completely running rings around. muscliffman
  • Score: 25

2:46pm Fri 25 Jul 14

rich53 says...

Once again the council found wanting,this happens every year,so when the season is over this year the council must start planning for next year to stop this annual event!
Once again the council found wanting,this happens every year,so when the season is over this year the council must start planning for next year to stop this annual event! rich53
  • Score: 20

2:50pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

rich53 wrote:
Once again the council found wanting,this happens every year,so when the season is over this year the council must start planning for next year to stop this annual event!
They did that last year. What you are seeing now is the full force of that plan in action.
[quote][p][bold]rich53[/bold] wrote: Once again the council found wanting,this happens every year,so when the season is over this year the council must start planning for next year to stop this annual event![/p][/quote]They did that last year. What you are seeing now is the full force of that plan in action. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 25

2:56pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Telscombe Cliffy says...

So when they are evicted, a council official or two doesn't follow/go with the group to stop them anchoring up at any other of it's sites in Poole or is that too simple. Would save all this constant eviction mullarkey.
They seem to have a liason officer? why doesn't he ride with them and tell them where they can camp legally? Again save all this going to the wrong places. Too simple? Not harassment surely if they are being advised where not to go and pointed in the right direction to a legal site even if it is out of the Poole Borough.
So when they are evicted, a council official or two doesn't follow/go with the group to stop them anchoring up at any other of it's sites in Poole or is that too simple. Would save all this constant eviction mullarkey. They seem to have a liason officer? why doesn't he ride with them and tell them where they can camp legally? Again save all this going to the wrong places. Too simple? Not harassment surely if they are being advised where not to go and pointed in the right direction to a legal site even if it is out of the Poole Borough. Telscombe Cliffy
  • Score: 22

2:59pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Telscombe Cliffy says...

Meanwhile in a similar South Coast City-
http://www.theargus.
co.uk/news/11366877.
Travellers_leave_Bla
ck_Rock_in_Brighton/
Meanwhile in a similar South Coast City- http://www.theargus. co.uk/news/11366877. Travellers_leave_Bla ck_Rock_in_Brighton/ Telscombe Cliffy
  • Score: 6

3:02pm Fri 25 Jul 14

skydriver says...

Wackerone wrote:
skydriver wrote:
These people are just giving the courts and council the run around .
And they are all powerless to act, as it politically correct to say and do nothing , for fear of upsetting them, what a joke, spineless courts,council
and police .fine them clamp them that should do the trick , after all that's what would happen to the rest of us normal folk who try to do things right
You have obviously not read my post. The police and council are not powerless to act. It just appears that the authorities in Poole are for some reason reluctant to do so. Turn up in Portsmouth on a Sunday evening, kick off on monad evening. Turn up in Poole, free holiday for a week, no questions asked.
Well let's see some action , not a load of words, act now .
[quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skydriver[/bold] wrote: These people are just giving the courts and council the run around . And they are all powerless to act, as it politically correct to say and do nothing , for fear of upsetting them, what a joke, spineless courts,council and police .fine them clamp them that should do the trick , after all that's what would happen to the rest of us normal folk who try to do things right[/p][/quote]You have obviously not read my post. The police and council are not powerless to act. It just appears that the authorities in Poole are for some reason reluctant to do so. Turn up in Portsmouth on a Sunday evening, kick off on monad evening. Turn up in Poole, free holiday for a week, no questions asked.[/p][/quote]Well let's see some action , not a load of words, act now . skydriver
  • Score: 10

3:06pm Fri 25 Jul 14

sea poole says...

Council insisted moves will be soon underway to secure Baiter Park...? Er, isn't that what they did a few weeks ago...?
Council insisted moves will be soon underway to secure Baiter Park...? Er, isn't that what they did a few weeks ago...? sea poole
  • Score: 16

3:13pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Jo__Go says...

Wackerone wrote:
Nobody from Poole Council or the Echo has yet answered my question as to how Portsmouth Council and Hampshire Police can remove travellers who set up on portsmouth park and ride car park within 24 hours after being threatened with prosecution if they didn't move immediately. As in Poole, Portsmouth have no transit camp so none of the usual drivel from councillors, police or the PCC please.
http://www.portsmout
h.co.uk/news/local/t
ravellers-told-to-le
ave-after-setting-up
-at-portsmouth-park-
and-ride-1-6191675
[quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: Nobody from Poole Council or the Echo has yet answered my question as to how Portsmouth Council and Hampshire Police can remove travellers who set up on portsmouth park and ride car park within 24 hours after being threatened with prosecution if they didn't move immediately. As in Poole, Portsmouth have no transit camp so none of the usual drivel from councillors, police or the PCC please.[/p][/quote]http://www.portsmout h.co.uk/news/local/t ravellers-told-to-le ave-after-setting-up -at-portsmouth-park- and-ride-1-6191675 Jo__Go
  • Score: 11

4:56pm Fri 25 Jul 14

kinsonjim says...

Travellers?? here we go again, year after year. Blah Blah Blah, Court order. Council surveillance officers(?), assessment officers(?) sanitary officers awaiting Court judgement etc. etc. Come on Bournemouth and Poole, give the Echo something worth printing such as 'good'news. Incidentally why were not the Police involved as soon as 'it' was realised. Sorry, I forgot, they were probably collecting their take away from KFC, complete with Police motor, stab proof jackets covered in all the usual electonic assets last Saturday evening.
Travellers?? here we go again, year after year. Blah Blah Blah, Court order. Council surveillance officers(?), assessment officers(?) sanitary officers awaiting Court judgement etc. etc. Come on Bournemouth and Poole, give the Echo something worth printing such as 'good'news. Incidentally why were not the Police involved as soon as 'it' was realised. Sorry, I forgot, they were probably collecting their take away from KFC, complete with Police motor, stab proof jackets covered in all the usual electonic assets last Saturday evening. kinsonjim
  • Score: 7

5:01pm Fri 25 Jul 14

rose lockwood says...

Why do Poole not use section 61 to evict them.
Trowbridge used this and they were gone within 3 hours
Why do Poole not use section 61 to evict them. Trowbridge used this and they were gone within 3 hours rose lockwood
  • Score: 18

5:17pm Fri 25 Jul 14

SeafaringMan says...

For how many more years will we have to put up with this farcical situation?
For how many more years will we have to put up with this farcical situation? SeafaringMan
  • Score: 17

5:28pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Dave2207 says...

As usual, these invaders are an affront to the council-taxpayers of Poole and Bournemouth. They commit criminal offences, in plain sight, yet Mr. Plod does nothing.
Littering, public urination and defæcation, not paying for use of a car-park, criminal damage to gates & barriers; the list is endless. They are widely suspected of shop-lifting, too: ask any of the shop-keepers in the area and they will tell you that! Tax and insurance of vehicles is another area that needs attention. (Remember: Al Capone was, finally, jailed for tax-evasion - so it can - and should - be done.)
As usual, these invaders are an affront to the council-taxpayers of Poole and Bournemouth. They commit criminal offences, in plain sight, yet Mr. Plod does nothing. Littering, public urination and defæcation, not paying for use of a car-park, criminal damage to gates & barriers; the list is endless. They are widely suspected of shop-lifting, too: ask any of the shop-keepers in the area and they will tell you that! Tax and insurance of vehicles is another area that needs attention. (Remember: Al Capone was, finally, jailed for tax-evasion - so it can - and should - be done.) Dave2207
  • Score: 26

5:33pm Fri 25 Jul 14

chris100 says...

Dorset police along with bournemouth and Poole councils don't have the balls to confront the so called travellers and force them off
Dorset police along with bournemouth and Poole councils don't have the balls to confront the so called travellers and force them off chris100
  • Score: 22

5:43pm Fri 25 Jul 14

PeteLandis says...

chris100 wrote:
Dorset police along with bournemouth and Poole councils don't have the balls to confront the so called travellers and force them off
Agree, gutless cowards the lot of them!! These "people" continue to take the p1ss out of them every year and the council and police do naff all!!
[quote][p][bold]chris100[/bold] wrote: Dorset police along with bournemouth and Poole councils don't have the balls to confront the so called travellers and force them off[/p][/quote]Agree, gutless cowards the lot of them!! These "people" continue to take the p1ss out of them every year and the council and police do naff all!! PeteLandis
  • Score: 21

6:06pm Fri 25 Jul 14

MattGillett says...

rose lockwood wrote:
Why do Poole not use section 61 to evict them.
Trowbridge used this and they were gone within 3 hours
I would have thought that if travellers left within 3 hours of a section 61 there must have been a fair amount of 'cooperation' on the part of the travellers, had they commited any other offences?
[quote][p][bold]rose lockwood[/bold] wrote: Why do Poole not use section 61 to evict them. Trowbridge used this and they were gone within 3 hours[/p][/quote]I would have thought that if travellers left within 3 hours of a section 61 there must have been a fair amount of 'cooperation' on the part of the travellers, had they commited any other offences? MattGillett
  • Score: 3

6:19pm Fri 25 Jul 14

ashleycross says...

It is common knowledge that the lack of sites in poole because of the councillors who gave in to the rowdy mob who didn't want poole abide by the law like other councils and provide sites, means that travellers can legally park wherever and whenever they choose on any open site in Poole. Please Poole people, don't let the cylcist hating,UKIP loving warmongering grumpy old men and women next door in Bournemouth drag you down to their level and get your councillors to put in proper sites like in Hampshire, Southampton and now even Dorset councils areas.
It is common knowledge that the lack of sites in poole because of the councillors who gave in to the rowdy mob who didn't want poole abide by the law like other councils and provide sites, means that travellers can legally park wherever and whenever they choose on any open site in Poole. Please Poole people, don't let the cylcist hating,UKIP loving warmongering grumpy old men and women next door in Bournemouth drag you down to their level and get your councillors to put in proper sites like in Hampshire, Southampton and now even Dorset councils areas. ashleycross
  • Score: -20

6:19pm Fri 25 Jul 14

ashleycross says...

It is common knowledge that the lack of sites in poole because of the councillors who gave in to the rowdy mob who didn't want poole abide by the law like other councils and provide sites, means that travellers can legally park wherever and whenever they choose on any open site in Poole. Please Poole people, don't let the cylcist hating,UKIP loving warmongering grumpy old men and women next door in Bournemouth drag you down to their level and get your councillors to put in proper sites like in Hampshire, Southampton and now even Dorset councils areas.
It is common knowledge that the lack of sites in poole because of the councillors who gave in to the rowdy mob who didn't want poole abide by the law like other councils and provide sites, means that travellers can legally park wherever and whenever they choose on any open site in Poole. Please Poole people, don't let the cylcist hating,UKIP loving warmongering grumpy old men and women next door in Bournemouth drag you down to their level and get your councillors to put in proper sites like in Hampshire, Southampton and now even Dorset councils areas. ashleycross
  • Score: -21

6:19pm Fri 25 Jul 14

ashleycross says...

It is common knowledge that the lack of sites in poole because of the councillors who gave in to the rowdy mob who didn't want poole abide by the law like other councils and provide sites, means that travellers can legally park wherever and whenever they choose on any open site in Poole. Please Poole people, don't let the cylcist hating,UKIP loving warmongering grumpy old men and women next door in Bournemouth drag you down to their level and get your councillors to put in proper sites like in Hampshire, Southampton and now even Dorset councils areas.
It is common knowledge that the lack of sites in poole because of the councillors who gave in to the rowdy mob who didn't want poole abide by the law like other councils and provide sites, means that travellers can legally park wherever and whenever they choose on any open site in Poole. Please Poole people, don't let the cylcist hating,UKIP loving warmongering grumpy old men and women next door in Bournemouth drag you down to their level and get your councillors to put in proper sites like in Hampshire, Southampton and now even Dorset councils areas. ashleycross
  • Score: -20

6:19pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Minty Fresh says...

Well done Echo on reporting that the free loading nomads are on their way to another (almost certainly) local site where they will get away with breaking the law and leaving us local tax payers to pick up the bill fro the mess they leave.

Well done Toby Whatsyournameagain (the Editor? pffft) and the Daily Echo on failing your local community (who you claim to represent) yet again by failing to launch a campaign for a law change that would stop these undesirables breaking our laws with impunity.

The Daily Echo is a shameful example of their owners putting profit before actually doing what a local newspaper should be doing: FIGHTING FOR IT'S READERS on important local issues.

Gannet/Newsquest/Dai
ly Echo: you should be utterly ASHAMED of yourselves. You're a pathetic excuse of a publication.
Well done Echo on reporting that the free loading nomads are on their way to another (almost certainly) local site where they will get away with breaking the law and leaving us local tax payers to pick up the bill fro the mess they leave. Well done Toby Whatsyournameagain (the Editor? pffft) and the Daily Echo on failing your local community (who you claim to represent) yet again by failing to launch a campaign for a law change that would stop these undesirables breaking our laws with impunity. The Daily Echo is a shameful example of their owners putting profit before actually doing what a local newspaper should be doing: FIGHTING FOR IT'S READERS on important local issues. Gannet/Newsquest/Dai ly Echo: you should be utterly ASHAMED of yourselves. You're a pathetic excuse of a publication. Minty Fresh
  • Score: 12

6:57pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Carolyn43 says...

ashleycross wrote:
It is common knowledge that the lack of sites in poole because of the councillors who gave in to the rowdy mob who didn't want poole abide by the law like other councils and provide sites, means that travellers can legally park wherever and whenever they choose on any open site in Poole. Please Poole people, don't let the cylcist hating,UKIP loving warmongering grumpy old men and women next door in Bournemouth drag you down to their level and get your councillors to put in proper sites like in Hampshire, Southampton and now even Dorset councils areas.
Doesn't matter whether you post this comment once or the three times you have, there is nowhere in Poole or Bournemouth for a site.

The only two sites in Poole that were considered were turned down by the planning committee because they were totally unsuitable for a number of reasons. There is nowhere else.

And please don't suggest the Creekmoor Park and Ride - it's been explained several times why this can't be used.
[quote][p][bold]ashleycross[/bold] wrote: It is common knowledge that the lack of sites in poole because of the councillors who gave in to the rowdy mob who didn't want poole abide by the law like other councils and provide sites, means that travellers can legally park wherever and whenever they choose on any open site in Poole. Please Poole people, don't let the cylcist hating,UKIP loving warmongering grumpy old men and women next door in Bournemouth drag you down to their level and get your councillors to put in proper sites like in Hampshire, Southampton and now even Dorset councils areas.[/p][/quote]Doesn't matter whether you post this comment once or the three times you have, there is nowhere in Poole or Bournemouth for a site. The only two sites in Poole that were considered were turned down by the planning committee because they were totally unsuitable for a number of reasons. There is nowhere else. And please don't suggest the Creekmoor Park and Ride - it's been explained several times why this can't be used. Carolyn43
  • Score: 9

7:30pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Boganish says...

I support the freeloaders , Good on them , exposing deficiencies in corrupt , incompetent councils , Im going to join them for a fosters and a quick dump.
I support the freeloaders , Good on them , exposing deficiencies in corrupt , incompetent councils , Im going to join them for a fosters and a quick dump. Boganish
  • Score: -8

7:45pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Slapmytickle says...

Good on em I say! People need to give them a break. It's a free world and they should be allowed to enjoy our wonderful countryside. I mean the car parks really do have the best to offer
Good on em I say! People need to give them a break. It's a free world and they should be allowed to enjoy our wonderful countryside. I mean the car parks really do have the best to offer Slapmytickle
  • Score: -18

8:33pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Townee says...

Perhaps the entry to the car park needs blocking with a ten ton truck, that would stop the moving on and we would know where they were.
Perhaps the entry to the car park needs blocking with a ten ton truck, that would stop the moving on and we would know where they were. Townee
  • Score: 7

8:37pm Fri 25 Jul 14

O'Reilly says...

rich53 wrote:
Once again the council found wanting,this happens every year,so when the season is over this year the council must start planning for next year to stop this annual event!
Spot on... the 7 P's - Proper Prior Planning Prevents P*ss Poor Performance.
[quote][p][bold]rich53[/bold] wrote: Once again the council found wanting,this happens every year,so when the season is over this year the council must start planning for next year to stop this annual event![/p][/quote]Spot on... the 7 P's - Proper Prior Planning Prevents P*ss Poor Performance. O'Reilly
  • Score: 5

8:39pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Hobad1 says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
Travellers leave Baiter Park - but 12 caravans arrive in Branksome.
It remains unclear at this time if any of the Beach Road travellers are the same as those from Baiter Park.

.......

Number plates are clear. In fact mine can be read at 100 meters with good eyesight. Or your reporters 600mm zoom lenses could do so at 400 meters.
Get down there and earn your wages.
Everyone knows your number plate.......its "W4NK3R".
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: Travellers leave Baiter Park - but 12 caravans arrive in Branksome. It remains unclear at this time if any of the Beach Road travellers are the same as those from Baiter Park. ....... Number plates are clear. In fact mine can be read at 100 meters with good eyesight. Or your reporters 600mm zoom lenses could do so at 400 meters. Get down there and earn your wages.[/p][/quote]Everyone knows your number plate.......its "W4NK3R". Hobad1
  • Score: -12

9:22pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Tripod says...

Wackerone wrote:
Nobody from Poole Council or the Echo has yet answered my question as to how Portsmouth Council and Hampshire Police can remove travellers who set up on portsmouth park and ride car park within 24 hours after being threatened with prosecution if they didn't move immediately. As in Poole, Portsmouth have no transit camp so none of the usual drivel from councillors, police or the PCC please.
Ever thought you might be asking the wrong people, and maybe you'd be better-off asking Portsmouth Council/Hampshire Police?
[quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: Nobody from Poole Council or the Echo has yet answered my question as to how Portsmouth Council and Hampshire Police can remove travellers who set up on portsmouth park and ride car park within 24 hours after being threatened with prosecution if they didn't move immediately. As in Poole, Portsmouth have no transit camp so none of the usual drivel from councillors, police or the PCC please.[/p][/quote]Ever thought you might be asking the wrong people, and maybe you'd be better-off asking Portsmouth Council/Hampshire Police? Tripod
  • Score: 4

9:23pm Fri 25 Jul 14

orange_mctwist says...

What makes me really cross is, I pay a huge amount for council tax and for beach parking locally. The second I park for a few seconds in a non authorised area I get a fine of £70.. I have no problem with peoples alternative lifestyles but all I ask is some fairness...
What makes me really cross is, I pay a huge amount for council tax and for beach parking locally. The second I park for a few seconds in a non authorised area I get a fine of £70.. I have no problem with peoples alternative lifestyles but all I ask is some fairness... orange_mctwist
  • Score: 20

9:35pm Fri 25 Jul 14

carrrob says...

Telscombe Cliffy wrote:
So when they are evicted, a council official or two doesn't follow/go with the group to stop them anchoring up at any other of it's sites in Poole or is that too simple. Would save all this constant eviction mullarkey.
They seem to have a liason officer? why doesn't he ride with them and tell them where they can camp legally? Again save all this going to the wrong places. Too simple? Not harassment surely if they are being advised where not to go and pointed in the right direction to a legal site even if it is out of the Poole Borough.
The liason officer is probably a direct descendant .
[quote][p][bold]Telscombe Cliffy[/bold] wrote: So when they are evicted, a council official or two doesn't follow/go with the group to stop them anchoring up at any other of it's sites in Poole or is that too simple. Would save all this constant eviction mullarkey. They seem to have a liason officer? why doesn't he ride with them and tell them where they can camp legally? Again save all this going to the wrong places. Too simple? Not harassment surely if they are being advised where not to go and pointed in the right direction to a legal site even if it is out of the Poole Borough.[/p][/quote]The liason officer is probably a direct descendant . carrrob
  • Score: 5

10:09pm Fri 25 Jul 14

cromwell9 says...

ashleycross wrote:
It is common knowledge that the lack of sites in poole because of the councillors who gave in to the rowdy mob who didn't want poole abide by the law like other councils and provide sites, means that travellers can legally park wherever and whenever they choose on any open site in Poole. Please Poole people, don't let the cylcist hating,UKIP loving warmongering grumpy old men and women next door in Bournemouth drag you down to their level and get your councillors to put in proper sites like in Hampshire, Southampton and now even Dorset councils areas.
You are living in a dream world mate.
Last year Exeter City council,put a Travellers camp up for 66 at a cost of £300,000 ,
When the travelors found out they had to register ,and pay council tax they all left,
If you want the situation to remain the same then vote for Lib /Lab /Con
Otherwise UKIP is the only party to sort it out ,and get OUR country back from the EU ,ETC.
I dont want my Daughters /Grand daughters living in a non christian country by 2050,DO you ?.
[quote][p][bold]ashleycross[/bold] wrote: It is common knowledge that the lack of sites in poole because of the councillors who gave in to the rowdy mob who didn't want poole abide by the law like other councils and provide sites, means that travellers can legally park wherever and whenever they choose on any open site in Poole. Please Poole people, don't let the cylcist hating,UKIP loving warmongering grumpy old men and women next door in Bournemouth drag you down to their level and get your councillors to put in proper sites like in Hampshire, Southampton and now even Dorset councils areas.[/p][/quote]You are living in a dream world mate. Last year Exeter City council,put a Travellers camp up for 66 at a cost of £300,000 , When the travelors found out they had to register ,and pay council tax they all left, If you want the situation to remain the same then vote for Lib /Lab /Con Otherwise UKIP is the only party to sort it out ,and get OUR country back from the EU ,ETC. I dont want my Daughters /Grand daughters living in a non christian country by 2050,DO you ?. cromwell9
  • Score: 5

10:27pm Fri 25 Jul 14

peterm8264 says...

isn't it funny that the echo did not report the 4 caravans that were living next to the park and ride at creekmoor for 2 weeks and then moved on without a court order although they did get a skip and a toilet .police need to get to grips with these unauthorised encampents and use the powers that are there ,not me guv for breaking a barrier , get real do something about it , now taxpayers pay your wages , lets get something back for the costs we incur for these non paying holiday makers that make the council and police look like fools
isn't it funny that the echo did not report the 4 caravans that were living next to the park and ride at creekmoor for 2 weeks and then moved on without a court order although they did get a skip and a toilet .police need to get to grips with these unauthorised encampents and use the powers that are there ,not me guv for breaking a barrier , get real do something about it , now taxpayers pay your wages , lets get something back for the costs we incur for these non paying holiday makers that make the council and police look like fools peterm8264
  • Score: 6

10:30pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Driven says...

The convoy has just headed north on Alder Road. Watch out North Bournemouth, they will be with you tonight with no sign of court action until Monday morning!
The convoy has just headed north on Alder Road. Watch out North Bournemouth, they will be with you tonight with no sign of court action until Monday morning! Driven
  • Score: 8

10:36pm Fri 25 Jul 14

dogsoftheworld says...

rose lockwood wrote:
Why do Poole not use section 61 to evict them.
Trowbridge used this and they were gone within 3 hours
Because Poole Council don't have the power under the law to do so. However Dorset Police do. Unfortunately they choose not to use those powers under guidance from the Association of Chief Police Officers. If you search the net you'll find the relevant document.
Your question should be answered by the PCC. He could make them do it upon request from the Council.
[quote][p][bold]rose lockwood[/bold] wrote: Why do Poole not use section 61 to evict them. Trowbridge used this and they were gone within 3 hours[/p][/quote]Because Poole Council don't have the power under the law to do so. However Dorset Police do. Unfortunately they choose not to use those powers under guidance from the Association of Chief Police Officers. If you search the net you'll find the relevant document. Your question should be answered by the PCC. He could make them do it upon request from the Council. dogsoftheworld
  • Score: 8

10:36pm Fri 25 Jul 14

peterm8264 says...

ashleycross wrote:
It is common knowledge that the lack of sites in poole because of the councillors who gave in to the rowdy mob who didn't want poole abide by the law like other councils and provide sites, means that travellers can legally park wherever and whenever they choose on any open site in Poole. Please Poole people, don't let the cylcist hating,UKIP loving warmongering grumpy old men and women next door in Bournemouth drag you down to their level and get your councillors to put in proper sites like in Hampshire, Southampton and now even Dorset councils areas.
I think you will find that the rowdy mob did not sway the councillors to abide by the law , it was taken to the planning committee who threw it out as the sites were not acceptable for human habitation, flood plain , asbestos , dangerous road and dangerous access to the sites all contributed to the refusal of the temporary sites . perhaps you should look at the results before writing silly comments
[quote][p][bold]ashleycross[/bold] wrote: It is common knowledge that the lack of sites in poole because of the councillors who gave in to the rowdy mob who didn't want poole abide by the law like other councils and provide sites, means that travellers can legally park wherever and whenever they choose on any open site in Poole. Please Poole people, don't let the cylcist hating,UKIP loving warmongering grumpy old men and women next door in Bournemouth drag you down to their level and get your councillors to put in proper sites like in Hampshire, Southampton and now even Dorset councils areas.[/p][/quote]I think you will find that the rowdy mob did not sway the councillors to abide by the law , it was taken to the planning committee who threw it out as the sites were not acceptable for human habitation, flood plain , asbestos , dangerous road and dangerous access to the sites all contributed to the refusal of the temporary sites . perhaps you should look at the results before writing silly comments peterm8264
  • Score: 4

11:01pm Fri 25 Jul 14

JustForPoole says...

dogsoftheworld wrote:
rose lockwood wrote:
Why do Poole not use section 61 to evict them.
Trowbridge used this and they were gone within 3 hours
Because Poole Council don't have the power under the law to do so. However Dorset Police do. Unfortunately they choose not to use those powers under guidance from the Association of Chief Police Officers. If you search the net you'll find the relevant document.
Your question should be answered by the PCC. He could make them do it upon request from the Council.
The PCC .... don`t make me laugh .... he is just another good example of a waste of taxpayers money!!!
[quote][p][bold]dogsoftheworld[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rose lockwood[/bold] wrote: Why do Poole not use section 61 to evict them. Trowbridge used this and they were gone within 3 hours[/p][/quote]Because Poole Council don't have the power under the law to do so. However Dorset Police do. Unfortunately they choose not to use those powers under guidance from the Association of Chief Police Officers. If you search the net you'll find the relevant document. Your question should be answered by the PCC. He could make them do it upon request from the Council.[/p][/quote]The PCC .... don`t make me laugh .... he is just another good example of a waste of taxpayers money!!! JustForPoole
  • Score: 7

11:02pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Red Leader 1 says...

Let us hope that the latest measures at Baiter car park do include placement of Purbeck boulders at the ENTRANCE to restrict caravan and motorhome (re)-entry.

Placing them on the grass perimeter is not enough as has been amply proven. Take them away in September by all means but carefully re-install them in 2015, preferably before the next incursion . Simples!

Meanwhile Poole Councillors, get it sorted and earn the votes you have been given.
Let us hope that the latest measures at Baiter car park do include placement of Purbeck boulders at the ENTRANCE to restrict caravan and motorhome (re)-entry. Placing them on the grass perimeter is not enough as has been amply proven. Take them away in September by all means but carefully re-install them in 2015, preferably before the next incursion . Simples! Meanwhile Poole Councillors, get it sorted and earn the votes you have been given. Red Leader 1
  • Score: 5

11:06pm Fri 25 Jul 14

cheeriedriteup says...

Bring home all of our troops to deal with these situations
Bring home all of our troops to deal with these situations cheeriedriteup
  • Score: 5

11:09pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Woodlanda says...

Travellers are camped at Slades Farm Bournemouth now.
Travellers are camped at Slades Farm Bournemouth now. Woodlanda
  • Score: 5

11:24pm Fri 25 Jul 14

Wackerone says...

Tripod wrote:
Wackerone wrote:
Nobody from Poole Council or the Echo has yet answered my question as to how Portsmouth Council and Hampshire Police can remove travellers who set up on portsmouth park and ride car park within 24 hours after being threatened with prosecution if they didn't move immediately. As in Poole, Portsmouth have no transit camp so none of the usual drivel from councillors, police or the PCC please.
Ever thought you might be asking the wrong people, and maybe you'd be better-off asking Portsmouth Council/Hampshire Police?
I know the answer. I'm just posing a rhetorical question in the hope that the relevant authorities, agency's and possibly the echo might like to find out for themselves.
[quote][p][bold]Tripod[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wackerone[/bold] wrote: Nobody from Poole Council or the Echo has yet answered my question as to how Portsmouth Council and Hampshire Police can remove travellers who set up on portsmouth park and ride car park within 24 hours after being threatened with prosecution if they didn't move immediately. As in Poole, Portsmouth have no transit camp so none of the usual drivel from councillors, police or the PCC please.[/p][/quote]Ever thought you might be asking the wrong people, and maybe you'd be better-off asking Portsmouth Council/Hampshire Police?[/p][/quote]I know the answer. I'm just posing a rhetorical question in the hope that the relevant authorities, agency's and possibly the echo might like to find out for themselves. Wackerone
  • Score: 1

6:40am Sat 26 Jul 14

kalebmoledirt says...

We know ,it's boring ,same story as last year and be the same next year.
We know ,it's boring ,same story as last year and be the same next year. kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 0

8:09am Sat 26 Jul 14

folkprotector says...

When they move on report it to the police using the 101 number. Then, marked police cara can wait at sites known to be favoured by "travellers" to see what they do. Deter them rather than react after they've parked.
When they move on report it to the police using the 101 number. Then, marked police cara can wait at sites known to be favoured by "travellers" to see what they do. Deter them rather than react after they've parked. folkprotector
  • Score: 4

8:27am Sat 26 Jul 14

jill M says...

kinsonjim wrote:
Travellers?? here we go again, year after year. Blah Blah Blah, Court order. Council surveillance officers(?), assessment officers(?) sanitary officers awaiting Court judgement etc. etc. Come on Bournemouth and Poole, give the Echo something worth printing such as 'good'news. Incidentally why were not the Police involved as soon as 'it' was realised. Sorry, I forgot, they were probably collecting their take away from KFC, complete with Police motor, stab proof jackets covered in all the usual electonic assets last Saturday evening.
So the police aren t allowed to eat? They aren t allowed to have time off for meal breaks? They have no canteens at police stations anymore so they have to eat somewhere- I guess it makes a change from donuts. Instead of complaining about the police having something to eat, concentrate on complaining about how our police force are decreasing day by day, something which should be of concern to every law abiding citizen.
[quote][p][bold]kinsonjim[/bold] wrote: Travellers?? here we go again, year after year. Blah Blah Blah, Court order. Council surveillance officers(?), assessment officers(?) sanitary officers awaiting Court judgement etc. etc. Come on Bournemouth and Poole, give the Echo something worth printing such as 'good'news. Incidentally why were not the Police involved as soon as 'it' was realised. Sorry, I forgot, they were probably collecting their take away from KFC, complete with Police motor, stab proof jackets covered in all the usual electonic assets last Saturday evening.[/p][/quote]So the police aren t allowed to eat? They aren t allowed to have time off for meal breaks? They have no canteens at police stations anymore so they have to eat somewhere- I guess it makes a change from donuts. Instead of complaining about the police having something to eat, concentrate on complaining about how our police force are decreasing day by day, something which should be of concern to every law abiding citizen. jill M
  • Score: 2

9:33am Sat 26 Jul 14

Red Leader 1 says...

Just as I thought. Council worker placing more boulders around the perimeter of the Baiter car park today but NOTHING being done to restrict height or width at entrance. Misleading quote from Mr Morley ....or slack reporting? May as well stick a "Welcome" sign up.
Message from travellers.... Back soon.
Just as I thought. Council worker placing more boulders around the perimeter of the Baiter car park today but NOTHING being done to restrict height or width at entrance. Misleading quote from Mr Morley ....or slack reporting? May as well stick a "Welcome" sign up. Message from travellers.... Back soon. Red Leader 1
  • Score: 3

1:34pm Sat 26 Jul 14

burgerboy says...

cheeriedriteup wrote:
Bring home all of our troops to deal with these situations
I don't know about our troops dealing with the situation, I can see a time soon when the fed up locals will take it upon themselves to deal with the situation...........
[quote][p][bold]cheeriedriteup[/bold] wrote: Bring home all of our troops to deal with these situations[/p][/quote]I don't know about our troops dealing with the situation, I can see a time soon when the fed up locals will take it upon themselves to deal with the situation........... burgerboy
  • Score: 5

6:36pm Sat 26 Jul 14

joetheman says...

it baffles me why the echo bother to report on this issue,they allow you to comment and then censor if you dare say anything against this so called ethnic minority group, the idiots in the echo office cause more problems and anger amongst residents who do not live in the vicinity of the travellers encampments when they file their reports, we all know travellers are here for the easy pickings and then move on to the great dorset steam fair, where they are also a law unto themselves,
it baffles me why the echo bother to report on this issue,they allow you to comment and then censor if you dare say anything against this so called ethnic minority group, the idiots in the echo office cause more problems and anger amongst residents who do not live in the vicinity of the travellers encampments when they file their reports, we all know travellers are here for the easy pickings and then move on to the great dorset steam fair, where they are also a law unto themselves, joetheman
  • Score: 3

8:41pm Sat 26 Jul 14

cromwell9 says...

the Council will soon move them on from BEACH road .
Cant have them around there,
the Council will soon move them on from BEACH road . Cant have them around there, cromwell9
  • Score: 2

8:33am Sun 27 Jul 14

Peroni says...

joetheman wrote:
it baffles me why the echo bother to report on this issue,they allow you to comment and then censor if you dare say anything against this so called ethnic minority group, the idiots in the echo office cause more problems and anger amongst residents who do not live in the vicinity of the travellers encampments when they file their reports, we all know travellers are here for the easy pickings and then move on to the great dorset steam fair, where they are also a law unto themselves,
I was thinking the same, it looks like the Echo is intentionally stirring up the local people ,and censoring their views .
[quote][p][bold]joetheman[/bold] wrote: it baffles me why the echo bother to report on this issue,they allow you to comment and then censor if you dare say anything against this so called ethnic minority group, the idiots in the echo office cause more problems and anger amongst residents who do not live in the vicinity of the travellers encampments when they file their reports, we all know travellers are here for the easy pickings and then move on to the great dorset steam fair, where they are also a law unto themselves,[/p][/quote]I was thinking the same, it looks like the Echo is intentionally stirring up the local people ,and censoring their views . Peroni
  • Score: 2

11:32pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Yankee1 says...

Those of us living abroad enjoy this ongoing bit of farce.

Only in Britain would this happen.
Those of us living abroad enjoy this ongoing bit of farce. Only in Britain would this happen. Yankee1
  • Score: 1

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