Motorcyclist seriously injured after Dorset Way crash

Motorcyclist seriously injured after Dorset Way crash

Part of Dorset Way closed after 'serious crash'

UPDATE: Part of Dorset Way in Poole closed after 'serious crash'

UPDATE: Part of Dorset Way in Poole closed after 'serious crash'

UPDATE: Part of Dorset Way in Poole closed after 'serious crash'

UPDATE: Part of Dorset Way in Poole closed after 'serious crash'

UPDATE: Part of Dorset Way in Poole closed after 'serious crash'

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A MOTORCYCLIST remains in a critical condition after a serious crash on Dorset Way in Poole yesterday.

The single vehicle accident took place on the westbound carriageway between the Tower Park roundabout and Oakdale Road.

Police were called at 4.05pm to reports of a man unconscious in the road, 400 metres from the Tower Park roundabout.

The motorcycle was a single blue Yamaha R6 being ridden by 28-year-old male from the Bulford area in Wiltshire.

The Yamaha left the carriageway and collided with a lamppost.

The man suffered serious injuries and is being treated in Poole Hospital where he remains in a critical condition.

Witnesses to the crash are asked to contact PC Munro of Dorset Police on 101.

The road was closed until late on Wednesday night to allow for investigation and debris to be cleared from the road.

 

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6:08pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Huey says...

Another accident involving a motorcyclist, hardly surprising given the way a sizeable minority of them ride.
Another accident involving a motorcyclist, hardly surprising given the way a sizeable minority of them ride. Huey
  • Score: -89

6:14pm Wed 9 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

Is it really necessary to post such detailed pics of a clearly extremely nasty crash? Everyone knows the extent of the damage that can be done to a bike in a high speed crash. It's the equivalent of posting pics of the inside of the house that someone died in this afternoon in a fire!

I hope the rider makes a full recovery. Of course, the poster above is assuming that they were doing something wrong, but we will not know until there is a police report. If the bike has collided with an immovable object at something approaching the speed limit it is not impossible to have caused that much damage.
Is it really necessary to post such detailed pics of a clearly extremely nasty crash? Everyone knows the extent of the damage that can be done to a bike in a high speed crash. It's the equivalent of posting pics of the inside of the house that someone died in this afternoon in a fire! I hope the rider makes a full recovery. Of course, the poster above is assuming that they were doing something wrong, but we will not know until there is a police report. If the bike has collided with an immovable object at something approaching the speed limit it is not impossible to have caused that much damage. speedy231278
  • Score: 53

6:19pm Wed 9 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

"The Daily Echo has been unable to contact Dorset Police for details."

Have they lost the phone number?
"The Daily Echo has been unable to contact Dorset Police for details." Have they lost the phone number? speedy231278
  • Score: 18

6:29pm Wed 9 Jul 14

burgerson says...

speedy231278 wrote:
Is it really necessary to post such detailed pics of a clearly extremely nasty crash? Everyone knows the extent of the damage that can be done to a bike in a high speed crash. It's the equivalent of posting pics of the inside of the house that someone died in this afternoon in a fire!

I hope the rider makes a full recovery. Of course, the poster above is assuming that they were doing something wrong, but we will not know until there is a police report. If the bike has collided with an immovable object at something approaching the speed limit it is not impossible to have caused that much damage.
I think it is necessary,hopefully a wake up call for motorcyclists who feel the need to ride like idiots.not all are like it but unfortunately there are a large number who put themselves and other road users at risk.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: Is it really necessary to post such detailed pics of a clearly extremely nasty crash? Everyone knows the extent of the damage that can be done to a bike in a high speed crash. It's the equivalent of posting pics of the inside of the house that someone died in this afternoon in a fire! I hope the rider makes a full recovery. Of course, the poster above is assuming that they were doing something wrong, but we will not know until there is a police report. If the bike has collided with an immovable object at something approaching the speed limit it is not impossible to have caused that much damage.[/p][/quote]I think it is necessary,hopefully a wake up call for motorcyclists who feel the need to ride like idiots.not all are like it but unfortunately there are a large number who put themselves and other road users at risk. burgerson
  • Score: 60

6:43pm Wed 9 Jul 14

d15 says...

Firstly I hope the motorcycle rider recovers quickly.
Secondly let us see what the police report says before making comments about riding/driving skills.
And lastly what is the person taking the pictures and video doing walking through the middle of a crash scene,especially as this accident is so serious that the road is closed until 7pm.
Firstly I hope the motorcycle rider recovers quickly. Secondly let us see what the police report says before making comments about riding/driving skills. And lastly what is the person taking the pictures and video doing walking through the middle of a crash scene,especially as this accident is so serious that the road is closed until 7pm. d15
  • Score: 79

6:46pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Becci120508 says...

Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"!
Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"! Becci120508
  • Score: 93

6:49pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Haveasaytoday says...

Who took this video and why have The Echo published such insensitve footage? I'm sure that this video wasn't obtained from the Police but from a member of the public. If this is the case, be ashamed of yourself for accessing an investigation and taking footage then contacting The Echo with the video, and The Echo for publishing it. Somebody has had an awful accident and voyeurism is disgusting. Have a thought for the person involved and their family.
Who took this video and why have The Echo published such insensitve footage? I'm sure that this video wasn't obtained from the Police but from a member of the public. If this is the case, be ashamed of yourself for accessing an investigation and taking footage then contacting The Echo with the video, and The Echo for publishing it. Somebody has had an awful accident and voyeurism is disgusting. Have a thought for the person involved and their family. Haveasaytoday
  • Score: 41

6:54pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Huey says...

Haveasaytoday wrote:
Who took this video and why have The Echo published such insensitve footage? I'm sure that this video wasn't obtained from the Police but from a member of the public. If this is the case, be ashamed of yourself for accessing an investigation and taking footage then contacting The Echo with the video, and The Echo for publishing it. Somebody has had an awful accident and voyeurism is disgusting. Have a thought for the person involved and their family.
It happened in a public place
It has affected thousands of members of the public
It is in the public interest to explain why, and a picture paints a thousand words
And yes it will happen again and again, look at the other story on here involving another motorbike crash.
Get used to it, or don't come back if it upsets you so much. No one is making you look at this story, are they?
[quote][p][bold]Haveasaytoday[/bold] wrote: Who took this video and why have The Echo published such insensitve footage? I'm sure that this video wasn't obtained from the Police but from a member of the public. If this is the case, be ashamed of yourself for accessing an investigation and taking footage then contacting The Echo with the video, and The Echo for publishing it. Somebody has had an awful accident and voyeurism is disgusting. Have a thought for the person involved and their family.[/p][/quote]It happened in a public place It has affected thousands of members of the public It is in the public interest to explain why, and a picture paints a thousand words And yes it will happen again and again, look at the other story on here involving another motorbike crash. Get used to it, or don't come back if it upsets you so much. No one is making you look at this story, are they? Huey
  • Score: 20

7:09pm Wed 9 Jul 14

MotorbikeSam says...

Becci120508 wrote:
Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"!
Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..
[quote][p][bold]Becci120508[/bold] wrote: Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"![/p][/quote]Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it.. MotorbikeSam
  • Score: -32

7:14pm Wed 9 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

burgerson wrote:
speedy231278 wrote:
Is it really necessary to post such detailed pics of a clearly extremely nasty crash? Everyone knows the extent of the damage that can be done to a bike in a high speed crash. It's the equivalent of posting pics of the inside of the house that someone died in this afternoon in a fire!

I hope the rider makes a full recovery. Of course, the poster above is assuming that they were doing something wrong, but we will not know until there is a police report. If the bike has collided with an immovable object at something approaching the speed limit it is not impossible to have caused that much damage.
I think it is necessary,hopefully a wake up call for motorcyclists who feel the need to ride like idiots.not all are like it but unfortunately there are a large number who put themselves and other road users at risk.
So, you know for certain that the bike rider was riding like an idiot! Were you a witness?
[quote][p][bold]burgerson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: Is it really necessary to post such detailed pics of a clearly extremely nasty crash? Everyone knows the extent of the damage that can be done to a bike in a high speed crash. It's the equivalent of posting pics of the inside of the house that someone died in this afternoon in a fire! I hope the rider makes a full recovery. Of course, the poster above is assuming that they were doing something wrong, but we will not know until there is a police report. If the bike has collided with an immovable object at something approaching the speed limit it is not impossible to have caused that much damage.[/p][/quote]I think it is necessary,hopefully a wake up call for motorcyclists who feel the need to ride like idiots.not all are like it but unfortunately there are a large number who put themselves and other road users at risk.[/p][/quote]So, you know for certain that the bike rider was riding like an idiot! Were you a witness? speedy231278
  • Score: 36

7:15pm Wed 9 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

Huey wrote:
burgerson wrote:
speedy231278 wrote:
Is it really necessary to post such detailed pics of a clearly extremely nasty crash? Everyone knows the extent of the damage that can be done to a bike in a high speed crash. It's the equivalent of posting pics of the inside of the house that someone died in this afternoon in a fire!

I hope the rider makes a full recovery. Of course, the poster above is assuming that they were doing something wrong, but we will not know until there is a police report. If the bike has collided with an immovable object at something approaching the speed limit it is not impossible to have caused that much damage.
I think it is necessary,hopefully a wake up call for motorcyclists who feel the need to ride like idiots.not all are like it but unfortunately there are a large number who put themselves and other road users at risk.
Plus the several thousand people held up might want to see what caused the accident that affected them as well.
Looking at the bike and given no other vehicles being involved it seems like yet another biker riding like their backside is on fire.
Maybe this object lesson will slow them down.
Hopefully I am wrong but I doubt it.
Funny, but there have been plenty of serious car crashes in the area recently. Has that stopped car drivers driving like idiots and crashing? No, it has not.
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]burgerson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: Is it really necessary to post such detailed pics of a clearly extremely nasty crash? Everyone knows the extent of the damage that can be done to a bike in a high speed crash. It's the equivalent of posting pics of the inside of the house that someone died in this afternoon in a fire! I hope the rider makes a full recovery. Of course, the poster above is assuming that they were doing something wrong, but we will not know until there is a police report. If the bike has collided with an immovable object at something approaching the speed limit it is not impossible to have caused that much damage.[/p][/quote]I think it is necessary,hopefully a wake up call for motorcyclists who feel the need to ride like idiots.not all are like it but unfortunately there are a large number who put themselves and other road users at risk.[/p][/quote]Plus the several thousand people held up might want to see what caused the accident that affected them as well. Looking at the bike and given no other vehicles being involved it seems like yet another biker riding like their backside is on fire. Maybe this object lesson will slow them down. Hopefully I am wrong but I doubt it.[/p][/quote]Funny, but there have been plenty of serious car crashes in the area recently. Has that stopped car drivers driving like idiots and crashing? No, it has not. speedy231278
  • Score: 45

7:17pm Wed 9 Jul 14

alasdair1967 says...

Having now seen the footage and pictures I ask the question would a motorcycle disintegrate like this in an accident at 50 mph which is the speed limit on this stretch of road , it took me 2 hours to travel from castle point to Hamworthy as a result of this accident
Having now seen the footage and pictures I ask the question would a motorcycle disintegrate like this in an accident at 50 mph which is the speed limit on this stretch of road , it took me 2 hours to travel from castle point to Hamworthy as a result of this accident alasdair1967
  • Score: -43

7:36pm Wed 9 Jul 14

BarrHumbug says...

I hope the riders ok and it's fortunate that no one else was involved in the incident, I'm sure the police will collate the evidence and take witness statements and come to a reasonable conclusion as to the cause of the accident rather than just wildly speculate like those on here are doing?
I hope the riders ok and it's fortunate that no one else was involved in the incident, I'm sure the police will collate the evidence and take witness statements and come to a reasonable conclusion as to the cause of the accident rather than just wildly speculate like those on here are doing? BarrHumbug
  • Score: 28

7:38pm Wed 9 Jul 14

PQBT01 says...

burgerson wrote:
speedy231278 wrote:
Is it really necessary to post such detailed pics of a clearly extremely nasty crash? Everyone knows the extent of the damage that can be done to a bike in a high speed crash. It's the equivalent of posting pics of the inside of the house that someone died in this afternoon in a fire!

I hope the rider makes a full recovery. Of course, the poster above is assuming that they were doing something wrong, but we will not know until there is a police report. If the bike has collided with an immovable object at something approaching the speed limit it is not impossible to have caused that much damage.
I think it is necessary,hopefully a wake up call for motorcyclists who feel the need to ride like idiots.not all are like it but unfortunately there are a large number who put themselves and other road users at risk.
There are also a "large" number of car drivers that put Motorcyclists at risk!
[quote][p][bold]burgerson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: Is it really necessary to post such detailed pics of a clearly extremely nasty crash? Everyone knows the extent of the damage that can be done to a bike in a high speed crash. It's the equivalent of posting pics of the inside of the house that someone died in this afternoon in a fire! I hope the rider makes a full recovery. Of course, the poster above is assuming that they were doing something wrong, but we will not know until there is a police report. If the bike has collided with an immovable object at something approaching the speed limit it is not impossible to have caused that much damage.[/p][/quote]I think it is necessary,hopefully a wake up call for motorcyclists who feel the need to ride like idiots.not all are like it but unfortunately there are a large number who put themselves and other road users at risk.[/p][/quote]There are also a "large" number of car drivers that put Motorcyclists at risk! PQBT01
  • Score: 63

7:41pm Wed 9 Jul 14

PQBT01 says...

MotorbikeSam wrote:
Becci120508 wrote:
Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"!
Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..
You've never broken the speed limit...
[quote][p][bold]MotorbikeSam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Becci120508[/bold] wrote: Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"![/p][/quote]Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..[/p][/quote]You've never broken the speed limit... PQBT01
  • Score: 13

7:41pm Wed 9 Jul 14

RPDraff says...

d15 wrote:
Firstly I hope the motorcycle rider recovers quickly.
Secondly let us see what the police report says before making comments about riding/driving skills.
And lastly what is the person taking the pictures and video doing walking through the middle of a crash scene,especially as this accident is so serious that the road is closed until 7pm.
Your latter part of the comment has no relevance at all to the story infact a very stupid comment. i should imagine the said person taking pictures and filming the video are related to the police somehow and/or have permission from the police. As you can see in the video there are two police officers and im pretty sure if it was a member of the public as you suggest, the police would be running over and telling them to stop filming in the middle of a crash scene. As it is under investigation, no public should be in the cordoned area
[quote][p][bold]d15[/bold] wrote: Firstly I hope the motorcycle rider recovers quickly. Secondly let us see what the police report says before making comments about riding/driving skills. And lastly what is the person taking the pictures and video doing walking through the middle of a crash scene,especially as this accident is so serious that the road is closed until 7pm.[/p][/quote]Your latter part of the comment has no relevance at all to the story infact a very stupid comment. i should imagine the said person taking pictures and filming the video are related to the police somehow and/or have permission from the police. As you can see in the video there are two police officers and im pretty sure if it was a member of the public as you suggest, the police would be running over and telling them to stop filming in the middle of a crash scene. As it is under investigation, no public should be in the cordoned area RPDraff
  • Score: 7

7:41pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Staynor66 says...

alasdair1967 wrote:
Having now seen the footage and pictures I ask the question would a motorcycle disintegrate like this in an accident at 50 mph which is the speed limit on this stretch of road , it took me 2 hours to travel from castle point to Hamworthy as a result of this accident
I am sure those two hours will be a massive loss to your evening, I also travelled from Bmth towards Hamworthy and it took me15 minutes to work out a different route through Canford Heath. Unfortunately some family are sat somewhere tonight with the prospect of a seriously injured loved one...hopefully they will spare a thought for your two hours.
[quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: Having now seen the footage and pictures I ask the question would a motorcycle disintegrate like this in an accident at 50 mph which is the speed limit on this stretch of road , it took me 2 hours to travel from castle point to Hamworthy as a result of this accident[/p][/quote]I am sure those two hours will be a massive loss to your evening, I also travelled from Bmth towards Hamworthy and it took me15 minutes to work out a different route through Canford Heath. Unfortunately some family are sat somewhere tonight with the prospect of a seriously injured loved one...hopefully they will spare a thought for your two hours. Staynor66
  • Score: 98

7:51pm Wed 9 Jul 14

alasdair1967 says...

Staynor66 wrote:
alasdair1967 wrote:
Having now seen the footage and pictures I ask the question would a motorcycle disintegrate like this in an accident at 50 mph which is the speed limit on this stretch of road , it took me 2 hours to travel from castle point to Hamworthy as a result of this accident
I am sure those two hours will be a massive loss to your evening, I also travelled from Bmth towards Hamworthy and it took me15 minutes to work out a different route through Canford Heath. Unfortunately some family are sat somewhere tonight with the prospect of a seriously injured loved one...hopefully they will spare a thought for your two hours.
I still raise the question would a motorcycle disintegrated like this one has after a 50 mph collision ? Somehow I don't think so
[quote][p][bold]Staynor66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: Having now seen the footage and pictures I ask the question would a motorcycle disintegrate like this in an accident at 50 mph which is the speed limit on this stretch of road , it took me 2 hours to travel from castle point to Hamworthy as a result of this accident[/p][/quote]I am sure those two hours will be a massive loss to your evening, I also travelled from Bmth towards Hamworthy and it took me15 minutes to work out a different route through Canford Heath. Unfortunately some family are sat somewhere tonight with the prospect of a seriously injured loved one...hopefully they will spare a thought for your two hours.[/p][/quote]I still raise the question would a motorcycle disintegrated like this one has after a 50 mph collision ? Somehow I don't think so alasdair1967
  • Score: -35

7:58pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Keitarojc says...

I don't see why people are whinging about motorcyclists, I myself drive a car but I barely see motorcyclists acting like idiots. I do however see people in cars everyday who break the speed limit, cut in-front of people, don't indicate where they're going, generally drive like idiots. The majority of road users are in cars and most of them drive like inconsiderate morons, when I do see somebody on a motorcycle acting like an idiot, it's usually some stupid chav on a moped, not even wearing the proper motorcycle gear.
I don't see why people are whinging about motorcyclists, I myself drive a car but I barely see motorcyclists acting like idiots. I do however see people in cars everyday who break the speed limit, cut in-front of people, don't indicate where they're going, generally drive like idiots. The majority of road users are in cars and most of them drive like inconsiderate morons, when I do see somebody on a motorcycle acting like an idiot, it's usually some stupid chav on a moped, not even wearing the proper motorcycle gear. Keitarojc
  • Score: 62

8:02pm Wed 9 Jul 14

cromwell9 says...

Never buy your son or daughter a moter cycle ,or moped.,Sooner or later they will come off it.
Help pay for their driving lessons.We helped our Three Daughters pass their driving lessons,Much safer than 2 Wheels ,.
Hope the guy recovers fully ,and parks his BIKE.
Never buy your son or daughter a moter cycle ,or moped.,Sooner or later they will come off it. Help pay for their driving lessons.We helped our Three Daughters pass their driving lessons,Much safer than 2 Wheels ,. Hope the guy recovers fully ,and parks his BIKE. cromwell9
  • Score: -3

8:07pm Wed 9 Jul 14

drJones says...

I think they echo should not be putting adverts on these videos. This one is of drinking wine?!
I think they echo should not be putting adverts on these videos. This one is of drinking wine?! drJones
  • Score: 15

8:08pm Wed 9 Jul 14

cromwell9 says...

Keitarojc wrote:
I don't see why people are whinging about motorcyclists, I myself drive a car but I barely see motorcyclists acting like idiots. I do however see people in cars everyday who break the speed limit, cut in-front of people, don't indicate where they're going, generally drive like idiots. The majority of road users are in cars and most of them drive like inconsiderate morons, when I do see somebody on a motorcycle acting like an idiot, it's usually some stupid chav on a moped, not even wearing the proper motorcycle gear.
Take a ride down the Upton Bypass on a Tues Eve /Wknd.
Your hair will stand up.
Its like Silverstone on two wheels
[quote][p][bold]Keitarojc[/bold] wrote: I don't see why people are whinging about motorcyclists, I myself drive a car but I barely see motorcyclists acting like idiots. I do however see people in cars everyday who break the speed limit, cut in-front of people, don't indicate where they're going, generally drive like idiots. The majority of road users are in cars and most of them drive like inconsiderate morons, when I do see somebody on a motorcycle acting like an idiot, it's usually some stupid chav on a moped, not even wearing the proper motorcycle gear.[/p][/quote]Take a ride down the Upton Bypass on a Tues Eve /Wknd. Your hair will stand up. Its like Silverstone on two wheels cromwell9
  • Score: 6

8:11pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Marty Caine UKIP says...

speedy231278 wrote:
Is it really necessary to post such detailed pics of a clearly extremely nasty crash? Everyone knows the extent of the damage that can be done to a bike in a high speed crash. It's the equivalent of posting pics of the inside of the house that someone died in this afternoon in a fire!

I hope the rider makes a full recovery. Of course, the poster above is assuming that they were doing something wrong, but we will not know until there is a police report. If the bike has collided with an immovable object at something approaching the speed limit it is not impossible to have caused that much damage.
Couldn't agree more with your comment, the pics and video of the wreckage have been done in extremely bad taste considering the rider has not been named but that bike may well be recognised by some. Though not easily considering the state of the wreckage, so how many people have been worried because they know people who have high powered bikes with blue tanks.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: Is it really necessary to post such detailed pics of a clearly extremely nasty crash? Everyone knows the extent of the damage that can be done to a bike in a high speed crash. It's the equivalent of posting pics of the inside of the house that someone died in this afternoon in a fire! I hope the rider makes a full recovery. Of course, the poster above is assuming that they were doing something wrong, but we will not know until there is a police report. If the bike has collided with an immovable object at something approaching the speed limit it is not impossible to have caused that much damage.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more with your comment, the pics and video of the wreckage have been done in extremely bad taste considering the rider has not been named but that bike may well be recognised by some. Though not easily considering the state of the wreckage, so how many people have been worried because they know people who have high powered bikes with blue tanks. Marty Caine UKIP
  • Score: 4

8:25pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Huey says...

I hope in the future every vehicle on the road has a camera recording everything thus making the roads self policing, everyone driving and riding like a copper is behind them.
I hope in the future every vehicle on the road has a camera recording everything thus making the roads self policing, everyone driving and riding like a copper is behind them. Huey
  • Score: 3

8:43pm Wed 9 Jul 14

ragj195 says...

drJones wrote:
I think they echo should not be putting adverts on these videos. This one is of drinking wine?!
You see adverts on TV before the news don't you? If you want to use a free website accept that you will be bombarded by adverts.

As for the accident. Who gives a s**t if he was speeding or not. The poor guy might be fighting for his life yet that doesn't stop people jumping to conclusions and posting ignorant comments.
[quote][p][bold]drJones[/bold] wrote: I think they echo should not be putting adverts on these videos. This one is of drinking wine?![/p][/quote]You see adverts on TV before the news don't you? If you want to use a free website accept that you will be bombarded by adverts. As for the accident. Who gives a s**t if he was speeding or not. The poor guy might be fighting for his life yet that doesn't stop people jumping to conclusions and posting ignorant comments. ragj195
  • Score: 27

8:53pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Huey says...

ragj195 wrote:
drJones wrote:
I think they echo should not be putting adverts on these videos. This one is of drinking wine?!
You see adverts on TV before the news don't you? If you want to use a free website accept that you will be bombarded by adverts.

As for the accident. Who gives a s**t if he was speeding or not. The poor guy might be fighting for his life yet that doesn't stop people jumping to conclusions and posting ignorant comments.
Where does it say he is fighting for his life? Do tell.
All it says is the air ambulance was stood down.
Or you have jumped to a conclusion, and by your own rules posted an ignorant comment.
You'd better give yourself a thumbs down.
[quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]drJones[/bold] wrote: I think they echo should not be putting adverts on these videos. This one is of drinking wine?![/p][/quote]You see adverts on TV before the news don't you? If you want to use a free website accept that you will be bombarded by adverts. As for the accident. Who gives a s**t if he was speeding or not. The poor guy might be fighting for his life yet that doesn't stop people jumping to conclusions and posting ignorant comments.[/p][/quote]Where does it say he is fighting for his life? Do tell. All it says is the air ambulance was stood down. Or you have jumped to a conclusion, and by your own rules posted an ignorant comment. You'd better give yourself a thumbs down. Huey
  • Score: -36

9:07pm Wed 9 Jul 14

ragj195 says...

Huey wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
drJones wrote:
I think they echo should not be putting adverts on these videos. This one is of drinking wine?!
You see adverts on TV before the news don't you? If you want to use a free website accept that you will be bombarded by adverts.

As for the accident. Who gives a s**t if he was speeding or not. The poor guy might be fighting for his life yet that doesn't stop people jumping to conclusions and posting ignorant comments.
Where does it say he is fighting for his life? Do tell.
All it says is the air ambulance was stood down.
Or you have jumped to a conclusion, and by your own rules posted an ignorant comment.
You'd better give yourself a thumbs down.
I said "might" not "is". Try reading it again slowly.
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]drJones[/bold] wrote: I think they echo should not be putting adverts on these videos. This one is of drinking wine?![/p][/quote]You see adverts on TV before the news don't you? If you want to use a free website accept that you will be bombarded by adverts. As for the accident. Who gives a s**t if he was speeding or not. The poor guy might be fighting for his life yet that doesn't stop people jumping to conclusions and posting ignorant comments.[/p][/quote]Where does it say he is fighting for his life? Do tell. All it says is the air ambulance was stood down. Or you have jumped to a conclusion, and by your own rules posted an ignorant comment. You'd better give yourself a thumbs down.[/p][/quote]I said "might" not "is". Try reading it again slowly. ragj195
  • Score: 26

9:07pm Wed 9 Jul 14

moorsie says...

I've just ridden my motorcycle up the Dorset Way, without my a**e on fire and I noticed the remains of what looks like a diesel spillage on the road, diesel is like riding on ice for a motorcyclist.

I would also comment that the vast majority of motorcyclists are extremely competent and well trained and certainly exercise better observational skills than those driving their cars whilst chatting on the phone.

If car drivers were made to do a CBT as part of their driver training, or even if the car test was made as stringent as the bike test, I'm sure there would be a lot less accidents on the road.

Stop tarring all bikers with your one-size-fits-all ignorant brush!

My very best wishes to my fellow biker, I wish you a speedy recovery.
I've just ridden my motorcycle up the Dorset Way, without my a**e on fire and I noticed the remains of what looks like a diesel spillage on the road, diesel is like riding on ice for a motorcyclist. I would also comment that the vast majority of motorcyclists are extremely competent and well trained and certainly exercise better observational skills than those driving their cars whilst chatting on the phone. If car drivers were made to do a CBT as part of their driver training, or even if the car test was made as stringent as the bike test, I'm sure there would be a lot less accidents on the road. Stop tarring all bikers with your one-size-fits-all ignorant brush! My very best wishes to my fellow biker, I wish you a speedy recovery. moorsie
  • Score: 81

9:08pm Wed 9 Jul 14

CoolRoxy says...

alasdair1967 wrote:
Having now seen the footage and pictures I ask the question would a motorcycle disintegrate like this in an accident at 50 mph which is the speed limit on this stretch of road , it took me 2 hours to travel from castle point to Hamworthy as a result of this accident
Yes, a motorcycle could easily disintegrate like this from a crash within the speed limit - it just depends how it hits the road.
As a motorcyclist myself, I object to the rider being demonised in this way - how many car drivers hjave you seen lately sticking to speed limits?

Other road users often think that bikes are going faster than they actually are, because they have higher revving engines than cars and therefore sound different. - Ther is, by the way, a very good reason for this as it's the power of the engine that keeps the bike upright.

Ther are many causes for single bike accidents, like oil on the road, or having to brake sharply because of the antics of some bike hating idiot car driver.

Let's just wait for the police investigation to be completed. Oh and by the way - if it had been you in an accident, I have no doubt you'd want the police to investigate fully.
[quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: Having now seen the footage and pictures I ask the question would a motorcycle disintegrate like this in an accident at 50 mph which is the speed limit on this stretch of road , it took me 2 hours to travel from castle point to Hamworthy as a result of this accident[/p][/quote]Yes, a motorcycle could easily disintegrate like this from a crash within the speed limit - it just depends how it hits the road. As a motorcyclist myself, I object to the rider being demonised in this way - how many car drivers hjave you seen lately sticking to speed limits? Other road users often think that bikes are going faster than they actually are, because they have higher revving engines than cars and therefore sound different. - Ther is, by the way, a very good reason for this as it's the power of the engine that keeps the bike upright. Ther are many causes for single bike accidents, like oil on the road, or having to brake sharply because of the antics of some bike hating idiot car driver. Let's just wait for the police investigation to be completed. Oh and by the way - if it had been you in an accident, I have no doubt you'd want the police to investigate fully. CoolRoxy
  • Score: 49

9:19pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Mga1971 says...

There are a lot of reasons why he may of crashed and could well of involved another motorist. The bike would disintegrate at 50 mph if it had hit anything solid, the rider was probably already separated from the bike before it hit anything and caused the damage shown.

I ride a bike and drive a car, car drivers do tend to treat you like you are invisible, so don't always blame the motorbike, there are good and bad in cars and bikes!
There are a lot of reasons why he may of crashed and could well of involved another motorist. The bike would disintegrate at 50 mph if it had hit anything solid, the rider was probably already separated from the bike before it hit anything and caused the damage shown. I ride a bike and drive a car, car drivers do tend to treat you like you are invisible, so don't always blame the motorbike, there are good and bad in cars and bikes! Mga1971
  • Score: 29

9:35pm Wed 9 Jul 14

gemmie-lou says...

I feel sorry for the family that has to go through this like me and my family has.
This is just the start of it....stay strong and be there for one another because it's gonna be a hell of a long road ahead for recovery.
I feel sorry for the family that has to go through this like me and my family has. This is just the start of it....stay strong and be there for one another because it's gonna be a hell of a long road ahead for recovery. gemmie-lou
  • Score: 18

9:41pm Wed 9 Jul 14

gemmie-lou says...

Staynor66 wrote:
alasdair1967 wrote:
Having now seen the footage and pictures I ask the question would a motorcycle disintegrate like this in an accident at 50 mph which is the speed limit on this stretch of road , it took me 2 hours to travel from castle point to Hamworthy as a result of this accident
I am sure those two hours will be a massive loss to your evening, I also travelled from Bmth towards Hamworthy and it took me15 minutes to work out a different route through Canford Heath. Unfortunately some family are sat somewhere tonight with the prospect of a seriously injured loved one...hopefully they will spare a thought for your two hours.
Well said.all about them selves and not about someone has been badly hurt and worried to death family members
[quote][p][bold]Staynor66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: Having now seen the footage and pictures I ask the question would a motorcycle disintegrate like this in an accident at 50 mph which is the speed limit on this stretch of road , it took me 2 hours to travel from castle point to Hamworthy as a result of this accident[/p][/quote]I am sure those two hours will be a massive loss to your evening, I also travelled from Bmth towards Hamworthy and it took me15 minutes to work out a different route through Canford Heath. Unfortunately some family are sat somewhere tonight with the prospect of a seriously injured loved one...hopefully they will spare a thought for your two hours.[/p][/quote]Well said.all about them selves and not about someone has been badly hurt and worried to death family members gemmie-lou
  • Score: 11

9:43pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Mindvor says...

Lets all start regaining a bit of mutual respect for ALL users of the roads shall we, children? I'm sure the Police will review these comments for all your useful insights into the crash investigation...you all seem to know exactly where the blame lies already, well done you. A result mostly, I imagine, borne out of your almost embarrassing narrow mindedness against .
This site used to be a laugh, there was a time when I thought that most of you were harmless trolls and it was all kind of endearing and twee...unfortunately these days I fear a lot of you genuinely believe the vitriol you spout.
...and, while I'm here, shame on you Echo! Bad paper! Bad!
Lets all start regaining a bit of mutual respect for ALL users of the roads shall we, children? I'm sure the Police will review these comments for all your useful insights into the crash investigation...you all seem to know exactly where the blame lies already, well done you. A result mostly, I imagine, borne out of your almost embarrassing narrow mindedness against . This site used to be a laugh, there was a time when I thought that most of you were harmless trolls and it was all kind of endearing and twee...unfortunately these days I fear a lot of you genuinely believe the vitriol you spout. ...and, while I'm here, shame on you Echo! Bad paper! Bad! Mindvor
  • Score: 11

10:12pm Wed 9 Jul 14

chris100 says...

I went past earlier and it was a mess with bits of bike scattered all over the road and the bike had landed in the grass verge 50 or so yards away

It's not often I say it but respect to the police who were there as they only closed 1 lane whilst doing the measuring ect
I went past earlier and it was a mess with bits of bike scattered all over the road and the bike had landed in the grass verge 50 or so yards away It's not often I say it but respect to the police who were there as they only closed 1 lane whilst doing the measuring ect chris100
  • Score: 13

10:35pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Ragwin says...

This is the 4th serious motor bike incident in a week in Dorset.

Motor bikes account for only a tiny percentage of road trips and yet produce 20% of road deaths. It's just common sense that motor bikes should be completely banned from the roads.
This is the 4th serious motor bike incident in a week in Dorset. Motor bikes account for only a tiny percentage of road trips and yet produce 20% of road deaths. It's just common sense that motor bikes should be completely banned from the roads. Ragwin
  • Score: -33

10:37pm Wed 9 Jul 14

romeo_oscar says...

Huey wrote:
Another accident involving a motorcyclist, hardly surprising given the way a sizeable minority of them ride.
which would be a smaller percentage of bad bike riders than there are bad car drivers so your comment is irrelevant, as you are.
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Another accident involving a motorcyclist, hardly surprising given the way a sizeable minority of them ride.[/p][/quote]which would be a smaller percentage of bad bike riders than there are bad car drivers so your comment is irrelevant, as you are. romeo_oscar
  • Score: 10

10:45pm Wed 9 Jul 14

romeo_oscar says...

Huey wrote:
burgerson wrote:
speedy231278 wrote:
Is it really necessary to post such detailed pics of a clearly extremely nasty crash? Everyone knows the extent of the damage that can be done to a bike in a high speed crash. It's the equivalent of posting pics of the inside of the house that someone died in this afternoon in a fire!

I hope the rider makes a full recovery. Of course, the poster above is assuming that they were doing something wrong, but we will not know until there is a police report. If the bike has collided with an immovable object at something approaching the speed limit it is not impossible to have caused that much damage.
I think it is necessary,hopefully a wake up call for motorcyclists who feel the need to ride like idiots.not all are like it but unfortunately there are a large number who put themselves and other road users at risk.
Plus the several thousand people held up might want to see what caused the accident that affected them as well.
Looking at the bike and given no other vehicles being involved it seems like yet another biker riding like their backside is on fire.
Maybe this object lesson will slow them down.
Hopefully I am wrong but I doubt it.
and you know no other vehicle was involved do you?
AH you must be mystic meg was wondering what she was doing these days.
Just because there's not another vehicle at the scene does not mean some lunatic that cant use their mirrors wasn't involved, maybe the biker had to take avoiding action and as often happens the cager does a runner, maybe the rider span up on diesel dumped on the road by ignorant motorists who over fill their tanks or who cant maintain their vehicles correctly. I see far more people in the 4 wheelers doing risky things than I do Bikers.
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]burgerson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: Is it really necessary to post such detailed pics of a clearly extremely nasty crash? Everyone knows the extent of the damage that can be done to a bike in a high speed crash. It's the equivalent of posting pics of the inside of the house that someone died in this afternoon in a fire! I hope the rider makes a full recovery. Of course, the poster above is assuming that they were doing something wrong, but we will not know until there is a police report. If the bike has collided with an immovable object at something approaching the speed limit it is not impossible to have caused that much damage.[/p][/quote]I think it is necessary,hopefully a wake up call for motorcyclists who feel the need to ride like idiots.not all are like it but unfortunately there are a large number who put themselves and other road users at risk.[/p][/quote]Plus the several thousand people held up might want to see what caused the accident that affected them as well. Looking at the bike and given no other vehicles being involved it seems like yet another biker riding like their backside is on fire. Maybe this object lesson will slow them down. Hopefully I am wrong but I doubt it.[/p][/quote]and you know no other vehicle was involved do you? AH you must be mystic meg was wondering what she was doing these days. Just because there's not another vehicle at the scene does not mean some lunatic that cant use their mirrors wasn't involved, maybe the biker had to take avoiding action and as often happens the cager does a runner, maybe the rider span up on diesel dumped on the road by ignorant motorists who over fill their tanks or who cant maintain their vehicles correctly. I see far more people in the 4 wheelers doing risky things than I do Bikers. romeo_oscar
  • Score: 12

10:52pm Wed 9 Jul 14

sprintervanman says...

cromwell9 wrote:
Never buy your son or daughter a moter cycle ,or moped.,Sooner or later they will come off it.
Help pay for their driving lessons.We helped our Three Daughters pass their driving lessons,Much safer than 2 Wheels ,.
Hope the guy recovers fully ,and parks his BIKE.
Erm so no one has ever been killed or injured whilst driving a car.Have been on motorcycles for 34 years and have yet failed to manage crash, seriously injure myself or Die as the result of being on 2 wheels.
[quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: Never buy your son or daughter a moter cycle ,or moped.,Sooner or later they will come off it. Help pay for their driving lessons.We helped our Three Daughters pass their driving lessons,Much safer than 2 Wheels ,. Hope the guy recovers fully ,and parks his BIKE.[/p][/quote]Erm so no one has ever been killed or injured whilst driving a car.Have been on motorcycles for 34 years and have yet failed to manage crash, seriously injure myself or Die as the result of being on 2 wheels. sprintervanman
  • Score: 17

10:53pm Wed 9 Jul 14

romeo_oscar says...

alasdair1967 wrote:
Having now seen the footage and pictures I ask the question would a motorcycle disintegrate like this in an accident at 50 mph which is the speed limit on this stretch of road , it took me 2 hours to travel from castle point to Hamworthy as a result of this accident
oh dear such a shame I wonder how long the biker is going to be delayed what an ignorant and selfish thing to say.
Oh and let me see near on 200kg of machinery engineered to be as light as possible hitting various pieces of solid road furniture at 50mph very likely it would look like this maybe even at 30.
Bikes do not come with Bumpers, rollcages and airbags unfortunately.
[quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: Having now seen the footage and pictures I ask the question would a motorcycle disintegrate like this in an accident at 50 mph which is the speed limit on this stretch of road , it took me 2 hours to travel from castle point to Hamworthy as a result of this accident[/p][/quote]oh dear such a shame I wonder how long the biker is going to be delayed what an ignorant and selfish thing to say. Oh and let me see near on 200kg of machinery engineered to be as light as possible hitting various pieces of solid road furniture at 50mph very likely it would look like this maybe even at 30. Bikes do not come with Bumpers, rollcages and airbags unfortunately. romeo_oscar
  • Score: 17

11:06pm Wed 9 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

alasdair1967 wrote:
Having now seen the footage and pictures I ask the question would a motorcycle disintegrate like this in an accident at 50 mph which is the speed limit on this stretch of road , it took me 2 hours to travel from castle point to Hamworthy as a result of this accident
If you throw one into a lamp post at 50 mph, I would reckon so.
[quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: Having now seen the footage and pictures I ask the question would a motorcycle disintegrate like this in an accident at 50 mph which is the speed limit on this stretch of road , it took me 2 hours to travel from castle point to Hamworthy as a result of this accident[/p][/quote]If you throw one into a lamp post at 50 mph, I would reckon so. speedy231278
  • Score: 14

11:11pm Wed 9 Jul 14

romeo_oscar says...

Ragwin wrote:
This is the 4th serious motor bike incident in a week in Dorset.

Motor bikes account for only a tiny percentage of road trips and yet produce 20% of road deaths. It's just common sense that motor bikes should be completely banned from the roads.
It would be common sense to ban numptys like you from posting nonsense
[quote][p][bold]Ragwin[/bold] wrote: This is the 4th serious motor bike incident in a week in Dorset. Motor bikes account for only a tiny percentage of road trips and yet produce 20% of road deaths. It's just common sense that motor bikes should be completely banned from the roads.[/p][/quote]It would be common sense to ban numptys like you from posting nonsense romeo_oscar
  • Score: 31

11:17pm Wed 9 Jul 14

sprintervanman says...

speedy231278 wrote:
alasdair1967 wrote:
Having now seen the footage and pictures I ask the question would a motorcycle disintegrate like this in an accident at 50 mph which is the speed limit on this stretch of road , it took me 2 hours to travel from castle point to Hamworthy as a result of this accident
If you throw one into a lamp post at 50 mph, I would reckon so.
considering that many of the panels on a motorcycle are made of plastic the fact that a bike appears to have disintegrated is not an indication of a high speed impact.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alasdair1967[/bold] wrote: Having now seen the footage and pictures I ask the question would a motorcycle disintegrate like this in an accident at 50 mph which is the speed limit on this stretch of road , it took me 2 hours to travel from castle point to Hamworthy as a result of this accident[/p][/quote]If you throw one into a lamp post at 50 mph, I would reckon so.[/p][/quote]considering that many of the panels on a motorcycle are made of plastic the fact that a bike appears to have disintegrated is not an indication of a high speed impact. sprintervanman
  • Score: 15

11:22pm Wed 9 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

speedy231278 wrote:
"The Daily Echo has been unable to contact Dorset Police for details."

Have they lost the phone number?
Have you tried calling them recently? The 101 "service" is less than useless.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: "The Daily Echo has been unable to contact Dorset Police for details." Have they lost the phone number?[/p][/quote]Have you tried calling them recently? The 101 "service" is less than useless. breamoreboy
  • Score: 4

11:25pm Wed 9 Jul 14

breamoreboy says...

Huey wrote:
burgerson wrote:
speedy231278 wrote:
Is it really necessary to post such detailed pics of a clearly extremely nasty crash? Everyone knows the extent of the damage that can be done to a bike in a high speed crash. It's the equivalent of posting pics of the inside of the house that someone died in this afternoon in a fire!

I hope the rider makes a full recovery. Of course, the poster above is assuming that they were doing something wrong, but we will not know until there is a police report. If the bike has collided with an immovable object at something approaching the speed limit it is not impossible to have caused that much damage.
I think it is necessary,hopefully a wake up call for motorcyclists who feel the need to ride like idiots.not all are like it but unfortunately there are a large number who put themselves and other road users at risk.
Plus the several thousand people held up might want to see what caused the accident that affected them as well.
Looking at the bike and given no other vehicles being involved it seems like yet another biker riding like their backside is on fire.
Maybe this object lesson will slow them down.
Hopefully I am wrong but I doubt it.
Or he had a blow out. Or hit a pothole. Why do so many commentators go into complete guesswork mode? Are there no readers interested in strange things like facts?
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]burgerson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: Is it really necessary to post such detailed pics of a clearly extremely nasty crash? Everyone knows the extent of the damage that can be done to a bike in a high speed crash. It's the equivalent of posting pics of the inside of the house that someone died in this afternoon in a fire! I hope the rider makes a full recovery. Of course, the poster above is assuming that they were doing something wrong, but we will not know until there is a police report. If the bike has collided with an immovable object at something approaching the speed limit it is not impossible to have caused that much damage.[/p][/quote]I think it is necessary,hopefully a wake up call for motorcyclists who feel the need to ride like idiots.not all are like it but unfortunately there are a large number who put themselves and other road users at risk.[/p][/quote]Plus the several thousand people held up might want to see what caused the accident that affected them as well. Looking at the bike and given no other vehicles being involved it seems like yet another biker riding like their backside is on fire. Maybe this object lesson will slow them down. Hopefully I am wrong but I doubt it.[/p][/quote]Or he had a blow out. Or hit a pothole. Why do so many commentators go into complete guesswork mode? Are there no readers interested in strange things like facts? breamoreboy
  • Score: 17

12:54am Thu 10 Jul 14

treborkcol says...

yes a bike can break up at the legal speed, depends on what happened and what it did before it stopped. bikes can be and are loud, you don't have to be going fast. just in a low gear. everyone speeds at some point. speeding is speeding. so don't lie to us. going down the middle, is legal, if traffic is stopped or going slower than the speed limit and the road marking permit it and it is safe to do so. don't cry about it get a bike.
and to the parents who paid for there kids car tests. well done i hope they appreciate it, because i doubt they really do. you learn more by earning your own way. yes cars are safer, but so can bikes be. if they want a bike in future they will get one. i know loads of people who deep down want one. oh and if your speeding and said car pulls out on you or changes lane to cause you to crash, i personally blame the car. yes speeding is bad, but if you paid attention it would not matter. why do other countries with higher speed roads and no speed cameras do ok. its because the drivers/riders are looking for said faster vehicle, instead of pulling half across and then looking. 99% of my near missus in 9 years on a bike have been caused by cars, not by speed. signal, look, blind spot/life saver, maneuver, but also judge the other traffic and the surroundings. there are way more cars than bikes in this area. and i see the odd bad car driver every time i go out. i rarely as in nearly never see a bad biker. everyone makes mistakes tho. and i hope this guy is ok.
yes a bike can break up at the legal speed, depends on what happened and what it did before it stopped. bikes can be and are loud, you don't have to be going fast. just in a low gear. everyone speeds at some point. speeding is speeding. so don't lie to us. going down the middle, is legal, if traffic is stopped or going slower than the speed limit and the road marking permit it and it is safe to do so. don't cry about it get a bike. and to the parents who paid for there kids car tests. well done i hope they appreciate it, because i doubt they really do. you learn more by earning your own way. yes cars are safer, but so can bikes be. if they want a bike in future they will get one. i know loads of people who deep down want one. oh and if your speeding and said car pulls out on you or changes lane to cause you to crash, i personally blame the car. yes speeding is bad, but if you paid attention it would not matter. why do other countries with higher speed roads and no speed cameras do ok. its because the drivers/riders are looking for said faster vehicle, instead of pulling half across and then looking. 99% of my near missus in 9 years on a bike have been caused by cars, not by speed. signal, look, blind spot/life saver, maneuver, but also judge the other traffic and the surroundings. there are way more cars than bikes in this area. and i see the odd bad car driver every time i go out. i rarely as in nearly never see a bad biker. everyone makes mistakes tho. and i hope this guy is ok. treborkcol
  • Score: 11

5:45am Thu 10 Jul 14

Fuscia67 says...

For pity's sake people, show some respect! Till the earth's dying day there will be car drivers, motorcyclists, cyclists and pedestrians all laying blame on another following incidents such as this.
All we can read into this at the moment is that there was a single vehicle accident, the bike is obviously more than just written off and the rider was taken to hospital. Whether someone's journey was disrupted or not, I think the well being of the rider is of far more importance than the bickering and/or thoughtless comments posted previously.
We have already read of motorcyclists being killed on our roads recently, lets hope there's a happier end to this particular incident.
For pity's sake people, show some respect! Till the earth's dying day there will be car drivers, motorcyclists, cyclists and pedestrians all laying blame on another following incidents such as this. All we can read into this at the moment is that there was a single vehicle accident, the bike is obviously more than just written off and the rider was taken to hospital. Whether someone's journey was disrupted or not, I think the well being of the rider is of far more importance than the bickering and/or thoughtless comments posted previously. We have already read of motorcyclists being killed on our roads recently, lets hope there's a happier end to this particular incident. Fuscia67
  • Score: 12

6:49am Thu 10 Jul 14

roamer200 says...

burgerson wrote:
speedy231278 wrote:
Is it really necessary to post such detailed pics of a clearly extremely nasty crash? Everyone knows the extent of the damage that can be done to a bike in a high speed crash. It's the equivalent of posting pics of the inside of the house that someone died in this afternoon in a fire!

I hope the rider makes a full recovery. Of course, the poster above is assuming that they were doing something wrong, but we will not know until there is a police report. If the bike has collided with an immovable object at something approaching the speed limit it is not impossible to have caused that much damage.
I think it is necessary,hopefully a wake up call for motorcyclists who feel the need to ride like idiots.not all are like it but unfortunately there are a large number who put themselves and other road users at risk.
Actually your both right.... Everyday I see bikes and cars being driven crazily however I also see so many lorry straps and around the Dorset way debris that didn't make it to the tip . However, as a non biker I do worry about the state our roads are in for these guys. We don't know the facts here and I hope the rider is ok but it is an opportunity for us all to reflect on how we drive or ride and also to start campaigning on the state of our roads. Good luck making a full recovery to the biker
[quote][p][bold]burgerson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: Is it really necessary to post such detailed pics of a clearly extremely nasty crash? Everyone knows the extent of the damage that can be done to a bike in a high speed crash. It's the equivalent of posting pics of the inside of the house that someone died in this afternoon in a fire! I hope the rider makes a full recovery. Of course, the poster above is assuming that they were doing something wrong, but we will not know until there is a police report. If the bike has collided with an immovable object at something approaching the speed limit it is not impossible to have caused that much damage.[/p][/quote]I think it is necessary,hopefully a wake up call for motorcyclists who feel the need to ride like idiots.not all are like it but unfortunately there are a large number who put themselves and other road users at risk.[/p][/quote]Actually your both right.... Everyday I see bikes and cars being driven crazily however I also see so many lorry straps and around the Dorset way debris that didn't make it to the tip . However, as a non biker I do worry about the state our roads are in for these guys. We don't know the facts here and I hope the rider is ok but it is an opportunity for us all to reflect on how we drive or ride and also to start campaigning on the state of our roads. Good luck making a full recovery to the biker roamer200
  • Score: 9

8:22am Thu 10 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

d15 wrote:
Firstly I hope the motorcycle rider recovers quickly.
Secondly let us see what the police report says before making comments about riding/driving skills.
And lastly what is the person taking the pictures and video doing walking through the middle of a crash scene,especially as this accident is so serious that the road is closed until 7pm.
Perhaps due to the fact that the accident happened on the road and not the pavement, hope the rider fully recovers.
[quote][p][bold]d15[/bold] wrote: Firstly I hope the motorcycle rider recovers quickly. Secondly let us see what the police report says before making comments about riding/driving skills. And lastly what is the person taking the pictures and video doing walking through the middle of a crash scene,especially as this accident is so serious that the road is closed until 7pm.[/p][/quote]Perhaps due to the fact that the accident happened on the road and not the pavement, hope the rider fully recovers. Hessenford
  • Score: 3

8:28am Thu 10 Jul 14

Fingersonthem says...

cromwell9 wrote:
Keitarojc wrote:
I don't see why people are whinging about motorcyclists, I myself drive a car but I barely see motorcyclists acting like idiots. I do however see people in cars everyday who break the speed limit, cut in-front of people, don't indicate where they're going, generally drive like idiots. The majority of road users are in cars and most of them drive like inconsiderate morons, when I do see somebody on a motorcycle acting like an idiot, it's usually some stupid chav on a moped, not even wearing the proper motorcycle gear.
Take a ride down the Upton Bypass on a Tues Eve /Wknd.
Your hair will stand up.
Its like Silverstone on two wheels
If you knew anything about motor cycles you would have not mentioned Silverstone as a comparison you could have used the Isle of Man and they do have 3 wheel races there as well . There again you may have got confused with Mark Cavendish's 2 wheels.
[quote][p][bold]cromwell9[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Keitarojc[/bold] wrote: I don't see why people are whinging about motorcyclists, I myself drive a car but I barely see motorcyclists acting like idiots. I do however see people in cars everyday who break the speed limit, cut in-front of people, don't indicate where they're going, generally drive like idiots. The majority of road users are in cars and most of them drive like inconsiderate morons, when I do see somebody on a motorcycle acting like an idiot, it's usually some stupid chav on a moped, not even wearing the proper motorcycle gear.[/p][/quote]Take a ride down the Upton Bypass on a Tues Eve /Wknd. Your hair will stand up. Its like Silverstone on two wheels[/p][/quote]If you knew anything about motor cycles you would have not mentioned Silverstone as a comparison you could have used the Isle of Man and they do have 3 wheel races there as well . There again you may have got confused with Mark Cavendish's 2 wheels. Fingersonthem
  • Score: 0

8:45am Thu 10 Jul 14

rayc says...

All sorts of drivers and vehicles get involved in collisions. Cars, motorcycles, commercial vehicles, cycles, caravan etc etc. Young drivers, elderly drivers, those in between, vocational drivers, police drivers etc etc.
Everyone may have their pet theory but accidents happen. Some types vehicles have more accidents per mile covered than others but it is interesting that motor cycle licences are heavily graduated.
With regards to this particular accident I hope the rider recovers quickly with no permanent injuries. I have no idea why the accident happened but it could be a multitude of things other that driver error.
All sorts of drivers and vehicles get involved in collisions. Cars, motorcycles, commercial vehicles, cycles, caravan etc etc. Young drivers, elderly drivers, those in between, vocational drivers, police drivers etc etc. Everyone may have their pet theory but accidents happen. Some types vehicles have more accidents per mile covered than others but it is interesting that motor cycle licences are heavily graduated. With regards to this particular accident I hope the rider recovers quickly with no permanent injuries. I have no idea why the accident happened but it could be a multitude of things other that driver error. rayc
  • Score: 7

8:45am Thu 10 Jul 14

suzigirl says...

romeo_oscar wrote:
Huey wrote: Another accident involving a motorcyclist, hardly surprising given the way a sizeable minority of them ride.
which would be a smaller percentage of bad bike riders than there are bad car drivers so your comment is irrelevant, as you are.
I bet you he is the kind of car driver that sees a motorbike filtering and moves over to the white line! Idiot! I wish the motorcyclist all the best for his recovery and thoughts are with his family...........
[quote][p][bold]romeo_oscar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Another accident involving a motorcyclist, hardly surprising given the way a sizeable minority of them ride.[/p][/quote]which would be a smaller percentage of bad bike riders than there are bad car drivers so your comment is irrelevant, as you are.[/p][/quote]I bet you he is the kind of car driver that sees a motorbike filtering and moves over to the white line! Idiot! I wish the motorcyclist all the best for his recovery and thoughts are with his family........... suzigirl
  • Score: 8

8:59am Thu 10 Jul 14

miltonarcher says...

Don't wish to comment on this accident. I drive for a living and the majority of bikers I see on the roads , speed, undertake, tailgate and ride without any concern for road safety. The stats back this up. Car drivers are also guilty of bad driving, but an accident on a bike has far worse consequences for the rider.
Don't wish to comment on this accident. I drive for a living and the majority of bikers I see on the roads , speed, undertake, tailgate and ride without any concern for road safety. The stats back this up. Car drivers are also guilty of bad driving, but an accident on a bike has far worse consequences for the rider. miltonarcher
  • Score: -3

9:04am Thu 10 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

suzigirl wrote:
romeo_oscar wrote:
Huey wrote: Another accident involving a motorcyclist, hardly surprising given the way a sizeable minority of them ride.
which would be a smaller percentage of bad bike riders than there are bad car drivers so your comment is irrelevant, as you are.
I bet you he is the kind of car driver that sees a motorbike filtering and moves over to the white line! Idiot! I wish the motorcyclist all the best for his recovery and thoughts are with his family...........
Making assumptions of how someone drives because of a comment he makes is unnecessary and probably driven because he has a different view to you.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]romeo_oscar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Another accident involving a motorcyclist, hardly surprising given the way a sizeable minority of them ride.[/p][/quote]which would be a smaller percentage of bad bike riders than there are bad car drivers so your comment is irrelevant, as you are.[/p][/quote]I bet you he is the kind of car driver that sees a motorbike filtering and moves over to the white line! Idiot! I wish the motorcyclist all the best for his recovery and thoughts are with his family...........[/p][/quote]Making assumptions of how someone drives because of a comment he makes is unnecessary and probably driven because he has a different view to you. Hessenford
  • Score: -4

10:15am Thu 10 Jul 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

speedy231278 wrote:
"The Daily Echo has been unable to contact Dorset Police for details."

Have they lost the phone number?
To be fair the cops were all very busy with this crash, the fire in Poole and the faller at Hengistbury Head.

The only officer left at the station was a cardboard one. He could hear the phone ringing but couldn't bend his arm to answer it.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: "The Daily Echo has been unable to contact Dorset Police for details." Have they lost the phone number?[/p][/quote]To be fair the cops were all very busy with this crash, the fire in Poole and the faller at Hengistbury Head. The only officer left at the station was a cardboard one. He could hear the phone ringing but couldn't bend his arm to answer it. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 2

10:36am Thu 10 Jul 14

romeo_oscar says...

miltonarcher wrote:
Don't wish to comment on this accident. I drive for a living and the majority of bikers I see on the roads , speed, undertake, tailgate and ride without any concern for road safety. The stats back this up. Car drivers are also guilty of bad driving, but an accident on a bike has far worse consequences for the rider.
I Don't wish to comment on this accident. I drive for a living and the majority of 4wheel drivers I see on the roads , speed, undertake,use the wrong lanes forcing others to take risks by undertaking , leave roundabouts in the wrong lane, creep at junctions, don't look properly at junctions, rarely use indicators , tailgate, use mobile phones, use front fog lights when its not foggy, do their make up, fiddle with their radios, don't use their mirrors and drive without any concern for road safety. The stats back this up. some bike riders are also guilty of bad riding, but an accident on a bike has far worse consequences for the rider.
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: Don't wish to comment on this accident. I drive for a living and the majority of bikers I see on the roads , speed, undertake, tailgate and ride without any concern for road safety. The stats back this up. Car drivers are also guilty of bad driving, but an accident on a bike has far worse consequences for the rider.[/p][/quote]I Don't wish to comment on this accident. I drive for a living and the majority of 4wheel drivers I see on the roads , speed, undertake,use the wrong lanes forcing others to take risks by undertaking , leave roundabouts in the wrong lane, creep at junctions, don't look properly at junctions, rarely use indicators , tailgate, use mobile phones, use front fog lights when its not foggy, do their make up, fiddle with their radios, don't use their mirrors and drive without any concern for road safety. The stats back this up. some bike riders are also guilty of bad riding, but an accident on a bike has far worse consequences for the rider. romeo_oscar
  • Score: 11

10:42am Thu 10 Jul 14

Wesoblind says...

i was sat in the traffic and saw a truck with one of those raising platforms on the back go into the back of a ford puma at about 4 mph, he was clearly on his phone texting!
i was sat in the traffic and saw a truck with one of those raising platforms on the back go into the back of a ford puma at about 4 mph, he was clearly on his phone texting! Wesoblind
  • Score: 4

10:45am Thu 10 Jul 14

Margit says...

MotorbikeSam wrote:
Becci120508 wrote:
Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"!
Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..
Its usually car drivers stuck in a traffic cue who moan about bikes because they can overtake and get from A-B faster. I see bullying car drivers every day pulling towards the middle to stop bikes getting past,those are the one who can and have coursed accidents and not the BIKER. yes it can be annoying sitting in a hot car in a cue , I know , I am a car driver now as well, but used to be a (female!) Biker myself and all to often had to step on to my breaks hard only to be told "sorry mate, i did not see you " when they just came out of a side street without looking and me with my Bike looking like a lit up x-mas tree and HI-Viz.! and yes I was within the speed limit on a 650 yamaha.
Oh btw :you say :Obviously Becci is not a road user....? eh? if she is "just" a pedestrian she is also a road user, and so are pushbike riders!
Most of us pay taxes and are entitled to use the roads safely, NOT JUST CAR DRIVERS, your car tax is not for the road its for the pollution you create!
[quote][p][bold]MotorbikeSam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Becci120508[/bold] wrote: Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"![/p][/quote]Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..[/p][/quote]Its usually car drivers stuck in a traffic cue who moan about bikes because they can overtake and get from A-B faster. I see bullying car drivers every day pulling towards the middle to stop bikes getting past,those are the one who can and have coursed accidents and not the BIKER. yes it can be annoying sitting in a hot car in a cue , I know , I am a car driver now as well, but used to be a (female!) Biker myself and all to often had to step on to my breaks hard only to be told "sorry mate, i did not see you " when they just came out of a side street without looking and me with my Bike looking like a lit up x-mas tree and HI-Viz.! and yes I was within the speed limit on a 650 yamaha. Oh btw :you say :Obviously Becci is not a road user....? eh? if she is "just" a pedestrian she is also a road user, and so are pushbike riders! Most of us pay taxes and are entitled to use the roads safely, NOT JUST CAR DRIVERS, your car tax is not for the road its for the pollution you create! Margit
  • Score: 7

10:52am Thu 10 Jul 14

suzigirl says...

Hessenford wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
romeo_oscar wrote:
Huey wrote: Another accident involving a motorcyclist, hardly surprising given the way a sizeable minority of them ride.
which would be a smaller percentage of bad bike riders than there are bad car drivers so your comment is irrelevant, as you are.
I bet you he is the kind of car driver that sees a motorbike filtering and moves over to the white line! Idiot! I wish the motorcyclist all the best for his recovery and thoughts are with his family...........
Making assumptions of how someone drives because of a comment he makes is unnecessary and probably driven because he has a different view to you.
Whether the accident was due to speed or misjudgement on his part the motorcyclist is in Poole Hospital critically injured. I hope his family do not see comments like "Hessenford".
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]romeo_oscar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Another accident involving a motorcyclist, hardly surprising given the way a sizeable minority of them ride.[/p][/quote]which would be a smaller percentage of bad bike riders than there are bad car drivers so your comment is irrelevant, as you are.[/p][/quote]I bet you he is the kind of car driver that sees a motorbike filtering and moves over to the white line! Idiot! I wish the motorcyclist all the best for his recovery and thoughts are with his family...........[/p][/quote]Making assumptions of how someone drives because of a comment he makes is unnecessary and probably driven because he has a different view to you.[/p][/quote]Whether the accident was due to speed or misjudgement on his part the motorcyclist is in Poole Hospital critically injured. I hope his family do not see comments like "Hessenford". suzigirl
  • Score: 1

10:53am Thu 10 Jul 14

folkprotector says...

Becci120508 wrote:
Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"!
Bad riding attracts publicity. Good riding, practised by most motorcyclists, gets ignored by the press.
[quote][p][bold]Becci120508[/bold] wrote: Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"![/p][/quote]Bad riding attracts publicity. Good riding, practised by most motorcyclists, gets ignored by the press. folkprotector
  • Score: 10

10:58am Thu 10 Jul 14

folkprotector says...

PQBT01 wrote:
MotorbikeSam wrote:
Becci120508 wrote:
Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"!
Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..
You've never broken the speed limit...
Nobody has a valid excuse for consciously breaking the speed limit. So far we do not know the circumstances of this crash.
[quote][p][bold]PQBT01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MotorbikeSam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Becci120508[/bold] wrote: Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"![/p][/quote]Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..[/p][/quote]You've never broken the speed limit...[/p][/quote]Nobody has a valid excuse for consciously breaking the speed limit. So far we do not know the circumstances of this crash. folkprotector
  • Score: -4

11:00am Thu 10 Jul 14

suzigirl says...

Margit the grammar and spelling Police will be after you!
Margit the grammar and spelling Police will be after you! suzigirl
  • Score: 0

11:10am Thu 10 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

suzigirl wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
suzigirl wrote:
romeo_oscar wrote:
Huey wrote: Another accident involving a motorcyclist, hardly surprising given the way a sizeable minority of them ride.
which would be a smaller percentage of bad bike riders than there are bad car drivers so your comment is irrelevant, as you are.
I bet you he is the kind of car driver that sees a motorbike filtering and moves over to the white line! Idiot! I wish the motorcyclist all the best for his recovery and thoughts are with his family...........
Making assumptions of how someone drives because of a comment he makes is unnecessary and probably driven because he has a different view to you.
Whether the accident was due to speed or misjudgement on his part the motorcyclist is in Poole Hospital critically injured. I hope his family do not see comments like "Hessenford".
My comment was directed at the comment you made and there was no disrespect to the motorcyclist who was injured, your comment on how someone drives when you don't know him was unnecessary , why would you accuse him of deliberately cutting up a motorbike considering no other vehicle was involved in this accident, what difference it would make if the riders family saw it I fail to see, your just miffed because I disagree with what you said, grow up for goodness sake.
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]romeo_oscar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Another accident involving a motorcyclist, hardly surprising given the way a sizeable minority of them ride.[/p][/quote]which would be a smaller percentage of bad bike riders than there are bad car drivers so your comment is irrelevant, as you are.[/p][/quote]I bet you he is the kind of car driver that sees a motorbike filtering and moves over to the white line! Idiot! I wish the motorcyclist all the best for his recovery and thoughts are with his family...........[/p][/quote]Making assumptions of how someone drives because of a comment he makes is unnecessary and probably driven because he has a different view to you.[/p][/quote]Whether the accident was due to speed or misjudgement on his part the motorcyclist is in Poole Hospital critically injured. I hope his family do not see comments like "Hessenford".[/p][/quote]My comment was directed at the comment you made and there was no disrespect to the motorcyclist who was injured, your comment on how someone drives when you don't know him was unnecessary , why would you accuse him of deliberately cutting up a motorbike considering no other vehicle was involved in this accident, what difference it would make if the riders family saw it I fail to see, your just miffed because I disagree with what you said, grow up for goodness sake. Hessenford
  • Score: 2

11:15am Thu 10 Jul 14

Fedupwiththe uk says...

I ride a bike as well as dive a car. In both cases its not the vehicle its normally the person in control.

However, diesel is a killer ref bikes and damage on the bike doesn't mean he was speeding hitting a lamp post at 5mph will cause such damage wife wrote 125 off at 25 mph hitting a wall, not recommended...

Too many factors to comment on this accident. Did a car swerve over?

Hope he recovers and can tell what happened.
I ride a bike as well as dive a car. In both cases its not the vehicle its normally the person in control. However, diesel is a killer ref bikes and damage on the bike doesn't mean he was speeding hitting a lamp post at 5mph will cause such damage wife wrote 125 off at 25 mph hitting a wall, not recommended... Too many factors to comment on this accident. Did a car swerve over? Hope he recovers and can tell what happened. Fedupwiththe uk
  • Score: 6

11:39am Thu 10 Jul 14

folkprotector says...

Huey wrote:
I hope in the future every vehicle on the road has a camera recording everything thus making the roads self policing, everyone driving and riding like a copper is behind them.
Your hope will turn into reality. Then let's see those who explicitly or implicitly try to defend their bad driving. As regards this particular incident, we do not yet know what happened... Remember, innocent until proved otherwise.
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: I hope in the future every vehicle on the road has a camera recording everything thus making the roads self policing, everyone driving and riding like a copper is behind them.[/p][/quote]Your hope will turn into reality. Then let's see those who explicitly or implicitly try to defend their bad driving. As regards this particular incident, we do not yet know what happened... Remember, innocent until proved otherwise. folkprotector
  • Score: 0

11:42am Thu 10 Jul 14

folkprotector says...

moorsie wrote:
I've just ridden my motorcycle up the Dorset Way, without my a**e on fire and I noticed the remains of what looks like a diesel spillage on the road, diesel is like riding on ice for a motorcyclist.

I would also comment that the vast majority of motorcyclists are extremely competent and well trained and certainly exercise better observational skills than those driving their cars whilst chatting on the phone.

If car drivers were made to do a CBT as part of their driver training, or even if the car test was made as stringent as the bike test, I'm sure there would be a lot less accidents on the road.

Stop tarring all bikers with your one-size-fits-all ignorant brush!

My very best wishes to my fellow biker, I wish you a speedy recovery.
Well said!
[quote][p][bold]moorsie[/bold] wrote: I've just ridden my motorcycle up the Dorset Way, without my a**e on fire and I noticed the remains of what looks like a diesel spillage on the road, diesel is like riding on ice for a motorcyclist. I would also comment that the vast majority of motorcyclists are extremely competent and well trained and certainly exercise better observational skills than those driving their cars whilst chatting on the phone. If car drivers were made to do a CBT as part of their driver training, or even if the car test was made as stringent as the bike test, I'm sure there would be a lot less accidents on the road. Stop tarring all bikers with your one-size-fits-all ignorant brush! My very best wishes to my fellow biker, I wish you a speedy recovery.[/p][/quote]Well said! folkprotector
  • Score: 4

12:00pm Thu 10 Jul 14

Becci120508 says...

MotorbikeSam wrote:
Becci120508 wrote:
Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"!
Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..
What gives you the right to assume I am not a road user. I drive a considerable amount every week. As i said before have some respect and consideration for his family.
[quote][p][bold]MotorbikeSam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Becci120508[/bold] wrote: Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"![/p][/quote]Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..[/p][/quote]What gives you the right to assume I am not a road user. I drive a considerable amount every week. As i said before have some respect and consideration for his family. Becci120508
  • Score: 5

12:02pm Thu 10 Jul 14

Becci120508 says...

folkprotector wrote:
moorsie wrote:
I've just ridden my motorcycle up the Dorset Way, without my a**e on fire and I noticed the remains of what looks like a diesel spillage on the road, diesel is like riding on ice for a motorcyclist.

I would also comment that the vast majority of motorcyclists are extremely competent and well trained and certainly exercise better observational skills than those driving their cars whilst chatting on the phone.

If car drivers were made to do a CBT as part of their driver training, or even if the car test was made as stringent as the bike test, I'm sure there would be a lot less accidents on the road.

Stop tarring all bikers with your one-size-fits-all ignorant brush!

My very best wishes to my fellow biker, I wish you a speedy recovery.
Well said!
Agreed very well said!
[quote][p][bold]folkprotector[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]moorsie[/bold] wrote: I've just ridden my motorcycle up the Dorset Way, without my a**e on fire and I noticed the remains of what looks like a diesel spillage on the road, diesel is like riding on ice for a motorcyclist. I would also comment that the vast majority of motorcyclists are extremely competent and well trained and certainly exercise better observational skills than those driving their cars whilst chatting on the phone. If car drivers were made to do a CBT as part of their driver training, or even if the car test was made as stringent as the bike test, I'm sure there would be a lot less accidents on the road. Stop tarring all bikers with your one-size-fits-all ignorant brush! My very best wishes to my fellow biker, I wish you a speedy recovery.[/p][/quote]Well said![/p][/quote]Agreed very well said! Becci120508
  • Score: 5

12:58pm Thu 10 Jul 14

PokesdownMark says...

Which public body owns responsibility for increasing road safety engineering? In many countries having lamp posts that close to the road without barriers would be considered a disgrace.
Which public body owns responsibility for increasing road safety engineering? In many countries having lamp posts that close to the road without barriers would be considered a disgrace. PokesdownMark
  • Score: 8

1:34pm Thu 10 Jul 14

bmthlad says...

Hope the rider recovers soon, whatever the reason for the accident. There are some careless and irresponsible bikers out there and many more bad drivers, we all have the responsibility to look after ourselves and other road users. There is no such thing as a dangerous road - only drivers.
Hope the rider recovers soon, whatever the reason for the accident. There are some careless and irresponsible bikers out there and many more bad drivers, we all have the responsibility to look after ourselves and other road users. There is no such thing as a dangerous road - only drivers. bmthlad
  • Score: 6

1:55pm Thu 10 Jul 14

Mike R-B says...

miltonarcher wrote:
Don't wish to comment on this accident. I drive for a living and the majority of bikers I see on the roads , speed, undertake, tailgate and ride without any concern for road safety. The stats back this up. Car drivers are also guilty of bad driving, but an accident on a bike has far worse consequences for the rider.
Best comment thus far, unbiased and fair.

Why can't these bikes be electronically restricted with speed and acceleration governors as the scooter types are ?
[quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: Don't wish to comment on this accident. I drive for a living and the majority of bikers I see on the roads , speed, undertake, tailgate and ride without any concern for road safety. The stats back this up. Car drivers are also guilty of bad driving, but an accident on a bike has far worse consequences for the rider.[/p][/quote]Best comment thus far, unbiased and fair. Why can't these bikes be electronically restricted with speed and acceleration governors as the scooter types are ? Mike R-B
  • Score: -9

2:05pm Thu 10 Jul 14

suzigirl says...

Mike R-B wrote:
miltonarcher wrote: Don't wish to comment on this accident. I drive for a living and the majority of bikers I see on the roads , speed, undertake, tailgate and ride without any concern for road safety. The stats back this up. Car drivers are also guilty of bad driving, but an accident on a bike has far worse consequences for the rider.
Best comment thus far, unbiased and fair. Why can't these bikes be electronically restricted with speed and acceleration governors as the scooter types are ?
Why can't cars be electronically restricted? Stupid comment!
[quote][p][bold]Mike R-B[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: Don't wish to comment on this accident. I drive for a living and the majority of bikers I see on the roads , speed, undertake, tailgate and ride without any concern for road safety. The stats back this up. Car drivers are also guilty of bad driving, but an accident on a bike has far worse consequences for the rider.[/p][/quote]Best comment thus far, unbiased and fair. Why can't these bikes be electronically restricted with speed and acceleration governors as the scooter types are ?[/p][/quote]Why can't cars be electronically restricted? Stupid comment! suzigirl
  • Score: 8

2:39pm Thu 10 Jul 14

BarrHumbug says...

Mike R-B wrote:
miltonarcher wrote:
Don't wish to comment on this accident. I drive for a living and the majority of bikers I see on the roads , speed, undertake, tailgate and ride without any concern for road safety. The stats back this up. Car drivers are also guilty of bad driving, but an accident on a bike has far worse consequences for the rider.
Best comment thus far, unbiased and fair.

Why can't these bikes be electronically restricted with speed and acceleration governors as the scooter types are ?
Its a shame your comment isn't as unbiased isn't it?
Why can't cars be restricted, currently to pass a motorcycle test to ride one of these so called high powered death traps a 17 year old rider has to take several practical tests over a period of 7 years on bikes of gradually increased power outputs before they can ride an unrestricted bike and yet a 17 year old car driver can pass their theory and one test and they can, if they have the money to insure it, go out and buy a Turbo charged Japanese missile for under a grand, something in which they can do considerable more damage in to themselves and everyone around them?
[quote][p][bold]Mike R-B[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]miltonarcher[/bold] wrote: Don't wish to comment on this accident. I drive for a living and the majority of bikers I see on the roads , speed, undertake, tailgate and ride without any concern for road safety. The stats back this up. Car drivers are also guilty of bad driving, but an accident on a bike has far worse consequences for the rider.[/p][/quote]Best comment thus far, unbiased and fair. Why can't these bikes be electronically restricted with speed and acceleration governors as the scooter types are ?[/p][/quote]Its a shame your comment isn't as unbiased isn't it? Why can't cars be restricted, currently to pass a motorcycle test to ride one of these so called high powered death traps a 17 year old rider has to take several practical tests over a period of 7 years on bikes of gradually increased power outputs before they can ride an unrestricted bike and yet a 17 year old car driver can pass their theory and one test and they can, if they have the money to insure it, go out and buy a Turbo charged Japanese missile for under a grand, something in which they can do considerable more damage in to themselves and everyone around them? BarrHumbug
  • Score: 19

3:16pm Thu 10 Jul 14

PokesdownMark says...

bmthlad wrote:
Hope the rider recovers soon, whatever the reason for the accident. There are some careless and irresponsible bikers out there and many more bad drivers, we all have the responsibility to look after ourselves and other road users. There is no such thing as a dangerous road - only drivers.
I dunno... the lamp post proved itself to be pretty dangerous.

I believe there are regulations related to crash barrier protection for new items of road furniture. But not being sorted retrospectively? Probably depends of road classification. But a dual carriageway ought to be sufficient?
[quote][p][bold]bmthlad[/bold] wrote: Hope the rider recovers soon, whatever the reason for the accident. There are some careless and irresponsible bikers out there and many more bad drivers, we all have the responsibility to look after ourselves and other road users. There is no such thing as a dangerous road - only drivers.[/p][/quote]I dunno... the lamp post proved itself to be pretty dangerous. I believe there are regulations related to crash barrier protection for new items of road furniture. But not being sorted retrospectively? Probably depends of road classification. But a dual carriageway ought to be sufficient? PokesdownMark
  • Score: 5

4:30pm Thu 10 Jul 14

folkprotector says...

folkprotector wrote:
PQBT01 wrote:
MotorbikeSam wrote:
Becci120508 wrote:
Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"!
Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..
You've never broken the speed limit...
Nobody has a valid excuse for consciously breaking the speed limit. So far we do not know the circumstances of this crash.
How on earth can anybody choose to give a thumbs down to my comment! Whatnarenyou saying about your attititude to, apparently, condoning bad driving.
[quote][p][bold]folkprotector[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PQBT01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MotorbikeSam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Becci120508[/bold] wrote: Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"![/p][/quote]Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..[/p][/quote]You've never broken the speed limit...[/p][/quote]Nobody has a valid excuse for consciously breaking the speed limit. So far we do not know the circumstances of this crash.[/p][/quote]How on earth can anybody choose to give a thumbs down to my comment! Whatnarenyou saying about your attititude to, apparently, condoning bad driving. folkprotector
  • Score: -5

4:30pm Thu 10 Jul 14

folkprotector says...

folkprotector wrote:
PQBT01 wrote:
MotorbikeSam wrote:
Becci120508 wrote:
Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"!
Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..
You've never broken the speed limit...
Nobody has a valid excuse for consciously breaking the speed limit. So far we do not know the circumstances of this crash.
How on earth can anybody choose to give a thumbs down to my comment! Whatnarenyou saying about your attititude to, apparently, condoning bad driving.
[quote][p][bold]folkprotector[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PQBT01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MotorbikeSam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Becci120508[/bold] wrote: Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"![/p][/quote]Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..[/p][/quote]You've never broken the speed limit...[/p][/quote]Nobody has a valid excuse for consciously breaking the speed limit. So far we do not know the circumstances of this crash.[/p][/quote]How on earth can anybody choose to give a thumbs down to my comment! Whatnarenyou saying about your attititude to, apparently, condoning bad driving. folkprotector
  • Score: -4

6:31pm Thu 10 Jul 14

MotorbikeSam says...

PQBT01 wrote:
MotorbikeSam wrote:
Becci120508 wrote:
Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"!
Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..
You've never broken the speed limit...
have broken the speed limit, on a motorway in 1984 I caught speeding at 105 mph and a 2week ban made me a better driver and I would never do it again ...
[quote][p][bold]PQBT01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MotorbikeSam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Becci120508[/bold] wrote: Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"![/p][/quote]Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..[/p][/quote]You've never broken the speed limit...[/p][/quote]have broken the speed limit, on a motorway in 1984 I caught speeding at 105 mph and a 2week ban made me a better driver and I would never do it again ... MotorbikeSam
  • Score: 0

9:52pm Thu 10 Jul 14

mythoughts! says...

suzigirl wrote:
romeo_oscar wrote:
Huey wrote: Another accident involving a motorcyclist, hardly surprising given the way a sizeable minority of them ride.
which would be a smaller percentage of bad bike riders than there are bad car drivers so your comment is irrelevant, as you are.
I bet you he is the kind of car driver that sees a motorbike filtering and moves over to the white line! Idiot! I wish the motorcyclist all the best for his recovery and thoughts are with his family...........
I really think that it is not worth replying to huey's comments because he clearly is an idiot and hasn't a clue what he is talking about
[quote][p][bold]suzigirl[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]romeo_oscar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Another accident involving a motorcyclist, hardly surprising given the way a sizeable minority of them ride.[/p][/quote]which would be a smaller percentage of bad bike riders than there are bad car drivers so your comment is irrelevant, as you are.[/p][/quote]I bet you he is the kind of car driver that sees a motorbike filtering and moves over to the white line! Idiot! I wish the motorcyclist all the best for his recovery and thoughts are with his family...........[/p][/quote]I really think that it is not worth replying to huey's comments because he clearly is an idiot and hasn't a clue what he is talking about mythoughts!
  • Score: 5

12:47pm Fri 11 Jul 14

MotorbikeSam says...

Margit wrote:
MotorbikeSam wrote:
Becci120508 wrote:
Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"!
Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..
Its usually car drivers stuck in a traffic cue who moan about bikes because they can overtake and get from A-B faster. I see bullying car drivers every day pulling towards the middle to stop bikes getting past,those are the one who can and have coursed accidents and not the BIKER. yes it can be annoying sitting in a hot car in a cue , I know , I am a car driver now as well, but used to be a (female!) Biker myself and all to often had to step on to my breaks hard only to be told "sorry mate, i did not see you " when they just came out of a side street without looking and me with my Bike looking like a lit up x-mas tree and HI-Viz.! and yes I was within the speed limit on a 650 yamaha.
Oh btw :you say :Obviously Becci is not a road user....? eh? if she is "just" a pedestrian she is also a road user, and so are pushbike riders!
Most of us pay taxes and are entitled to use the roads safely, NOT JUST CAR DRIVERS, your car tax is not for the road its for the pollution you create!
yes indeed you are entitle to use the road but only and always within the speed limit.. and if you Margit stick to the limit you will know I am right because you will be overtaken by most bikers
[quote][p][bold]Margit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MotorbikeSam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Becci120508[/bold] wrote: Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"![/p][/quote]Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..[/p][/quote]Its usually car drivers stuck in a traffic cue who moan about bikes because they can overtake and get from A-B faster. I see bullying car drivers every day pulling towards the middle to stop bikes getting past,those are the one who can and have coursed accidents and not the BIKER. yes it can be annoying sitting in a hot car in a cue , I know , I am a car driver now as well, but used to be a (female!) Biker myself and all to often had to step on to my breaks hard only to be told "sorry mate, i did not see you " when they just came out of a side street without looking and me with my Bike looking like a lit up x-mas tree and HI-Viz.! and yes I was within the speed limit on a 650 yamaha. Oh btw :you say :Obviously Becci is not a road user....? eh? if she is "just" a pedestrian she is also a road user, and so are pushbike riders! Most of us pay taxes and are entitled to use the roads safely, NOT JUST CAR DRIVERS, your car tax is not for the road its for the pollution you create![/p][/quote]yes indeed you are entitle to use the road but only and always within the speed limit.. and if you Margit stick to the limit you will know I am right because you will be overtaken by most bikers MotorbikeSam
  • Score: 0

5:22pm Fri 11 Jul 14

folkprotector says...

folkprotector wrote:
folkprotector wrote:
PQBT01 wrote:
MotorbikeSam wrote:
Becci120508 wrote:
Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"!
Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..
You've never broken the speed limit...
Nobody has a valid excuse for consciously breaking the speed limit. So far we do not know the circumstances of this crash.
How on earth can anybody choose to give a thumbs down to my comment! Whatnarenyou saying about your attititude to, apparently, condoning bad driving.
Absolutely extraordinary that anybody gives a thmbs down to my previous comments. Don't you realise that by doing so you are condoning bad driving?
[quote][p][bold]folkprotector[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]folkprotector[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PQBT01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MotorbikeSam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Becci120508[/bold] wrote: Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"![/p][/quote]Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..[/p][/quote]You've never broken the speed limit...[/p][/quote]Nobody has a valid excuse for consciously breaking the speed limit. So far we do not know the circumstances of this crash.[/p][/quote]How on earth can anybody choose to give a thumbs down to my comment! Whatnarenyou saying about your attititude to, apparently, condoning bad driving.[/p][/quote]Absolutely extraordinary that anybody gives a thmbs down to my previous comments. Don't you realise that by doing so you are condoning bad driving? folkprotector
  • Score: -2

1:53pm Sat 12 Jul 14

folkprotector says...

folkprotector wrote:
folkprotector wrote:
folkprotector wrote:
PQBT01 wrote:
MotorbikeSam wrote:
Becci120508 wrote:
Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"!
Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..
You've never broken the speed limit...
Nobody has a valid excuse for consciously breaking the speed limit. So far we do not know the circumstances of this crash.
How on earth can anybody choose to give a thumbs down to my comment! Whatnarenyou saying about your attititude to, apparently, condoning bad driving.
Absolutely extraordinary that anybody gives a thmbs down to my previous comments. Don't you realise that by doing so you are condoning bad driving?
... and yet they still do it. Mind boggling.
[quote][p][bold]folkprotector[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]folkprotector[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]folkprotector[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PQBT01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MotorbikeSam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Becci120508[/bold] wrote: Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"![/p][/quote]Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..[/p][/quote]You've never broken the speed limit...[/p][/quote]Nobody has a valid excuse for consciously breaking the speed limit. So far we do not know the circumstances of this crash.[/p][/quote]How on earth can anybody choose to give a thumbs down to my comment! Whatnarenyou saying about your attititude to, apparently, condoning bad driving.[/p][/quote]Absolutely extraordinary that anybody gives a thmbs down to my previous comments. Don't you realise that by doing so you are condoning bad driving?[/p][/quote]... and yet they still do it. Mind boggling. folkprotector
  • Score: 0

6:24am Sun 13 Jul 14

ohnonothimagen says...

speedy231278 wrote:
"The Daily Echo has been unable to contact Dorset Police for details."

Have they lost the phone number?
It's just so difficult to get hold of the police nowadays - I called 101 the other day to report a non emergency incident and after waiting for over 10 minutes I gave up waiting for someone to answer.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: "The Daily Echo has been unable to contact Dorset Police for details." Have they lost the phone number?[/p][/quote]It's just so difficult to get hold of the police nowadays - I called 101 the other day to report a non emergency incident and after waiting for over 10 minutes I gave up waiting for someone to answer. ohnonothimagen
  • Score: -1

9:31am Tue 15 Jul 14

speedy231278 says...

MotorbikeSam wrote:
Margit wrote:
MotorbikeSam wrote:
Becci120508 wrote:
Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"!
Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..
Its usually car drivers stuck in a traffic cue who moan about bikes because they can overtake and get from A-B faster. I see bullying car drivers every day pulling towards the middle to stop bikes getting past,those are the one who can and have coursed accidents and not the BIKER. yes it can be annoying sitting in a hot car in a cue , I know , I am a car driver now as well, but used to be a (female!) Biker myself and all to often had to step on to my breaks hard only to be told "sorry mate, i did not see you " when they just came out of a side street without looking and me with my Bike looking like a lit up x-mas tree and HI-Viz.! and yes I was within the speed limit on a 650 yamaha.
Oh btw :you say :Obviously Becci is not a road user....? eh? if she is "just" a pedestrian she is also a road user, and so are pushbike riders!
Most of us pay taxes and are entitled to use the roads safely, NOT JUST CAR DRIVERS, your car tax is not for the road its for the pollution you create!
yes indeed you are entitle to use the road but only and always within the speed limit.. and if you Margit stick to the limit you will know I am right because you will be overtaken by most bikers
Funny, when I'm on my bike and doing the speed limit, I immediately end up with a metal cage badged Audi or Mercedes jammed up my backside, well inside the safe following distance!
[quote][p][bold]MotorbikeSam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Margit[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MotorbikeSam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Becci120508[/bold] wrote: Im not sure why people always assume the worst from motorcyclists, the same isn't written about car crashes. May car drivers drive very badly indeed. Have some respect for the poor person and their family. Before assuming i suggest you wait for the facts. Not all riders ride like "their backsides are on fire"![/p][/quote]Obviously Becci is not a road user or she will have noticed that most bikers break the speed limit the only bike I see within the speed limits are those incapable of exceeding it..[/p][/quote]Its usually car drivers stuck in a traffic cue who moan about bikes because they can overtake and get from A-B faster. I see bullying car drivers every day pulling towards the middle to stop bikes getting past,those are the one who can and have coursed accidents and not the BIKER. yes it can be annoying sitting in a hot car in a cue , I know , I am a car driver now as well, but used to be a (female!) Biker myself and all to often had to step on to my breaks hard only to be told "sorry mate, i did not see you " when they just came out of a side street without looking and me with my Bike looking like a lit up x-mas tree and HI-Viz.! and yes I was within the speed limit on a 650 yamaha. Oh btw :you say :Obviously Becci is not a road user....? eh? if she is "just" a pedestrian she is also a road user, and so are pushbike riders! Most of us pay taxes and are entitled to use the roads safely, NOT JUST CAR DRIVERS, your car tax is not for the road its for the pollution you create![/p][/quote]yes indeed you are entitle to use the road but only and always within the speed limit.. and if you Margit stick to the limit you will know I am right because you will be overtaken by most bikers[/p][/quote]Funny, when I'm on my bike and doing the speed limit, I immediately end up with a metal cage badged Audi or Mercedes jammed up my backside, well inside the safe following distance! speedy231278
  • Score: 2

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