‘Favouritism’ row after mayor chooses own grandson to be his official Scout

Bournemouth Echo: Cllr Chris Mayne Cllr Chris Mayne

BOURNEMOUTH’S mayor elect has been forced into an embarrassing climbdown after he selected his own grandson as the official ‘Mayor’s Scout.’

Conservative Cllr Chris Mayne, who becomes Mayor today, originally rejected the candidate put forward by the Bournemouth Scouting Association in favour of his 11-year-old grandson.

The decision sparked accusations of foul play from scout leaders and parents.

Council chief executive Tony Williams had to intervene.

Following negotiations with all parties, a compromise has now been agreed that will see the Mayor’s grandson Noah Mayne-Venables hold the position for the first half of the year and Explorer Scout Charlie Pike, the scouts’ recommendation, take over for the second half.

Cllr Mayne said: “I thought it would be a nice opportunity for my grandson who is 11 years old and a keen scout.

“I went to democratic services who said they didn’t see a problem with it so that’s what I did.

“This has probably never happened before which is perhaps why it caused such a fuss. I didn’t expect any repercussions like this.”

Kieran Selby, the youth representative on Bourne-mouth Scouts’ Executive Committee, said: “We were disappointed that the mayor elect chose not to follow usual process. He ignored our advice and recommendation.

“A statement to Bourne-mouth Scouts’ members was made by the executive committee. This led many leaders, scouts and parents to contact the council.”

He said he was pleased with the compromise: “We believe that the strength of feeling was so strong that the council’s hand was forced. I am pleased we have reached an agreement on the matter.”

Tony Williams, the chief executive, said: “The council is happy to clarify the position. For 2014/15 the mayor-elect, Councillor Chris Mayne, will nominate two Mayor Scouts, Charlie Pike and Noah Mayne-Venables.

“This arrangement is not unusual as it is often the case to have two representatives of differing institutions over the year, for example the mayor’s chaplain.

“The announcement of the mayor’s two scouts and all mayoral representative posi-tions will be made at the council’s annual meeting this Friday.”

Darren Gilbert, Scouts district commissioner, said: “We are pleased that the mayor has recognised the value of two of our local scouts for the coming mayoral year. Bourne-mouth scouts will be focused on supporting the mayor for a successful year.”

The Mayor’s Scout and Guide accompany the mayor at civic engagements.

Comments (64)

Please log in to enable comment sorting

6:07am Fri 30 May 14

churchill gardens resident says...

So I guess there will be a lot of skulduggery & rubbish going on down at the clown hall this coming year .......
So I guess there will be a lot of skulduggery & rubbish going on down at the clown hall this coming year ....... churchill gardens resident
  • Score: 45

6:53am Fri 30 May 14

oversee says...

the blind leading the bland.......who cares...more seaside town drama.
the blind leading the bland.......who cares...more seaside town drama. oversee
  • Score: -11

7:13am Fri 30 May 14

arthur1948 says...

Nothing surprises me any more with this council.....

More happy days ahead...
Nothing surprises me any more with this council..... More happy days ahead... arthur1948
  • Score: 47

7:16am Fri 30 May 14

Baysider says...

Big news.
Big news. Baysider
  • Score: -20

7:43am Fri 30 May 14

High Treason says...

Just the tip of the iceberg and a small insight into how our council awards business contracts.
Just the tip of the iceberg and a small insight into how our council awards business contracts. High Treason
  • Score: 69

7:56am Fri 30 May 14

pete woodley says...

It stinks.
It stinks. pete woodley
  • Score: 43

7:57am Fri 30 May 14

djd says...

He has been elected as Mayor, surely he can choose which Scout he wants as the Mayor's Scout. Why does he have to choose someone chosen by others? I don't doubt the skills of the Scout put forward by the association, but at the end of the day surely the Mayor has the last word.
Great compromise though.
He has been elected as Mayor, surely he can choose which Scout he wants as the Mayor's Scout. Why does he have to choose someone chosen by others? I don't doubt the skills of the Scout put forward by the association, but at the end of the day surely the Mayor has the last word. Great compromise though. djd
  • Score: -83

8:07am Fri 30 May 14

TheDistrict says...

If any grandparent on this forum were ever to become Mayor, I would wager that the majority would choose a grandchild, if that grandchild was in a youth organisation. Moreso if the right steps were taken in the first place.

Lets face it, it was only the barking of the Scout Leaders who's son or daughter did not get chosen.
If any grandparent on this forum were ever to become Mayor, I would wager that the majority would choose a grandchild, if that grandchild was in a youth organisation. Moreso if the right steps were taken in the first place. Lets face it, it was only the barking of the Scout Leaders who's son or daughter did not get chosen. TheDistrict
  • Score: -77

8:13am Fri 30 May 14

Baysider says...

High Treason wrote:
Just the tip of the iceberg and a small insight into how our council awards business contracts.
Oh for gawds sake get over yourself. The bloke's tried to do a nice thing for his grandson, nothing more, nothing less. There's nothing cynister or corrupt about it and btw all council contracts are subject to way more scrutiny and legislation than in the "real" world where backhanders, free trips to Wimbledon and mutual backscratching are very much still the order of the day.

Seriously, there's some proper plums who frequent this site who must spend all day looking for things to beat up the public sector with. Mind you it wouldn't have happened under UKIP...blah...blah..
.blah...wibble, wibble.
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Just the tip of the iceberg and a small insight into how our council awards business contracts.[/p][/quote]Oh for gawds sake get over yourself. The bloke's tried to do a nice thing for his grandson, nothing more, nothing less. There's nothing cynister or corrupt about it and btw all council contracts are subject to way more scrutiny and legislation than in the "real" world where backhanders, free trips to Wimbledon and mutual backscratching are very much still the order of the day. Seriously, there's some proper plums who frequent this site who must spend all day looking for things to beat up the public sector with. Mind you it wouldn't have happened under UKIP...blah...blah.. .blah...wibble, wibble. Baysider
  • Score: -45

8:29am Fri 30 May 14

pete woodley says...

The system of choosing the mayors scout has been good enough for many years,so why does "Mayne" alter it,does it make the little man feel big,will it make his grandson feel he earned the position ?.No matter what political side you are, there is always someone who gets above themselves.My sympathy is with the grandson,who must realize he was not the scouts choice.
The system of choosing the mayors scout has been good enough for many years,so why does "Mayne" alter it,does it make the little man feel big,will it make his grandson feel he earned the position ?.No matter what political side you are, there is always someone who gets above themselves.My sympathy is with the grandson,who must realize he was not the scouts choice. pete woodley
  • Score: 56

8:55am Fri 30 May 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

So who's the consult going to be ? Watch the Jeremy Kyle Mayoral special !
So who's the consult going to be ? Watch the Jeremy Kyle Mayoral special ! politicaltrainspotter
  • Score: 1

9:12am Fri 30 May 14

Arjay says...

Understandable thing for a grandfather to do... probably not the most sensible thing for a mayor-elect to do.
He should have checked on the 'normal' selection procedure, before saying anything to the boy......
And this compromise is not likely to do the lad any favours, in his relationship with his fellow scouts....
Understandable thing for a grandfather to do... probably not the most sensible thing for a mayor-elect to do. He should have checked on the 'normal' selection procedure, before saying anything to the boy...... And this compromise is not likely to do the lad any favours, in his relationship with his fellow scouts.... Arjay
  • Score: 51

9:22am Fri 30 May 14

TheDistrict says...

Arjay wrote:
Understandable thing for a grandfather to do... probably not the most sensible thing for a mayor-elect to do.
He should have checked on the 'normal' selection procedure, before saying anything to the boy......
And this compromise is not likely to do the lad any favours, in his relationship with his fellow scouts....
“I went to democratic services who said they didn’t see a problem with it so that’s what I did.

He did Arjay...............
....................
....
[quote][p][bold]Arjay[/bold] wrote: Understandable thing for a grandfather to do... probably not the most sensible thing for a mayor-elect to do. He should have checked on the 'normal' selection procedure, before saying anything to the boy...... And this compromise is not likely to do the lad any favours, in his relationship with his fellow scouts....[/p][/quote]“I went to democratic services who said they didn’t see a problem with it so that’s what I did. He did Arjay............... .................... .... TheDistrict
  • Score: -24

9:25am Fri 30 May 14

Wackerone says...

Stupid name anyway, out of the Ark.
Stupid name anyway, out of the Ark. Wackerone
  • Score: 1

9:30am Fri 30 May 14

Controversial But True says...

Mayors:

Out of date
Out of touch
Out of mind

Move on.......
Mayors: Out of date Out of touch Out of mind Move on....... Controversial But True
  • Score: 18

9:30am Fri 30 May 14

Thestickmeister says...

Baysider wrote:
High Treason wrote:
Just the tip of the iceberg and a small insight into how our council awards business contracts.
Oh for gawds sake get over yourself. The bloke's tried to do a nice thing for his grandson, nothing more, nothing less. There's nothing cynister or corrupt about it and btw all council contracts are subject to way more scrutiny and legislation than in the "real" world where backhanders, free trips to Wimbledon and mutual backscratching are very much still the order of the day.

Seriously, there's some proper plums who frequent this site who must spend all day looking for things to beat up the public sector with. Mind you it wouldn't have happened under UKIP...blah...blah..

.blah...wibble, wibble.
I totally disagree; this action is indicative of his character. He has assumed a position of responsibility and despite being given a recommendation through the accepted protocols, he chose to ignore it in favour of a relative.

It doesn't matter what the democratic committee said. Do we really want any councillor in place who will contrive to serve his own personal agenda over that encouraged by the wider audience he is serving?

His very first decision shows he's not fit for his office. The right mayor would know that his family would be precluded from such opportunities in order that he may remain objective with any appointment.

Yes, it's small town politics and not really big news, but it's indicative of the wider issue of self-serving public servants that shouldn't be in office.
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Just the tip of the iceberg and a small insight into how our council awards business contracts.[/p][/quote]Oh for gawds sake get over yourself. The bloke's tried to do a nice thing for his grandson, nothing more, nothing less. There's nothing cynister or corrupt about it and btw all council contracts are subject to way more scrutiny and legislation than in the "real" world where backhanders, free trips to Wimbledon and mutual backscratching are very much still the order of the day. Seriously, there's some proper plums who frequent this site who must spend all day looking for things to beat up the public sector with. Mind you it wouldn't have happened under UKIP...blah...blah.. .blah...wibble, wibble.[/p][/quote]I totally disagree; this action is indicative of his character. He has assumed a position of responsibility and despite being given a recommendation through the accepted protocols, he chose to ignore it in favour of a relative. It doesn't matter what the democratic committee said. Do we really want any councillor in place who will contrive to serve his own personal agenda over that encouraged by the wider audience he is serving? His very first decision shows he's not fit for his office. The right mayor would know that his family would be precluded from such opportunities in order that he may remain objective with any appointment. Yes, it's small town politics and not really big news, but it's indicative of the wider issue of self-serving public servants that shouldn't be in office. Thestickmeister
  • Score: 92

9:41am Fri 30 May 14

breamoreboy says...

I'd like to dedicate a song to the mayor elect. By Level 42, it's called "Running In The Family".
I'd like to dedicate a song to the mayor elect. By Level 42, it's called "Running In The Family". breamoreboy
  • Score: 22

9:50am Fri 30 May 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

Nepotism, ah yes it'll never die out. Very popular amongst the elected.
Nepotism, ah yes it'll never die out. Very popular amongst the elected. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 34

10:02am Fri 30 May 14

pete woodley says...

Thestickmeister wrote:
Baysider wrote:
High Treason wrote:
Just the tip of the iceberg and a small insight into how our council awards business contracts.
Oh for gawds sake get over yourself. The bloke's tried to do a nice thing for his grandson, nothing more, nothing less. There's nothing cynister or corrupt about it and btw all council contracts are subject to way more scrutiny and legislation than in the "real" world where backhanders, free trips to Wimbledon and mutual backscratching are very much still the order of the day.

Seriously, there's some proper plums who frequent this site who must spend all day looking for things to beat up the public sector with. Mind you it wouldn't have happened under UKIP...blah...blah..


.blah...wibble, wibble.
I totally disagree; this action is indicative of his character. He has assumed a position of responsibility and despite being given a recommendation through the accepted protocols, he chose to ignore it in favour of a relative.

It doesn't matter what the democratic committee said. Do we really want any councillor in place who will contrive to serve his own personal agenda over that encouraged by the wider audience he is serving?

His very first decision shows he's not fit for his office. The right mayor would know that his family would be precluded from such opportunities in order that he may remain objective with any appointment.

Yes, it's small town politics and not really big news, but it's indicative of the wider issue of self-serving public servants that shouldn't be in office.
Very well put,it was what i wanted to say,but you have put it better.
[quote][p][bold]Thestickmeister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Just the tip of the iceberg and a small insight into how our council awards business contracts.[/p][/quote]Oh for gawds sake get over yourself. The bloke's tried to do a nice thing for his grandson, nothing more, nothing less. There's nothing cynister or corrupt about it and btw all council contracts are subject to way more scrutiny and legislation than in the "real" world where backhanders, free trips to Wimbledon and mutual backscratching are very much still the order of the day. Seriously, there's some proper plums who frequent this site who must spend all day looking for things to beat up the public sector with. Mind you it wouldn't have happened under UKIP...blah...blah.. .blah...wibble, wibble.[/p][/quote]I totally disagree; this action is indicative of his character. He has assumed a position of responsibility and despite being given a recommendation through the accepted protocols, he chose to ignore it in favour of a relative. It doesn't matter what the democratic committee said. Do we really want any councillor in place who will contrive to serve his own personal agenda over that encouraged by the wider audience he is serving? His very first decision shows he's not fit for his office. The right mayor would know that his family would be precluded from such opportunities in order that he may remain objective with any appointment. Yes, it's small town politics and not really big news, but it's indicative of the wider issue of self-serving public servants that shouldn't be in office.[/p][/quote]Very well put,it was what i wanted to say,but you have put it better. pete woodley
  • Score: 40

10:09am Fri 30 May 14

jinglebell says...

It appears the Council's attitude of doing what they wish, irrespective of the electorate, morals, or even a nod to values like honour, whilst telling each other what a grand job they are doing, has infected Cllr. Mayne's clarity of thought and good judgement - assuming of course he had any prior to being elected.
It appears the Council's attitude of doing what they wish, irrespective of the electorate, morals, or even a nod to values like honour, whilst telling each other what a grand job they are doing, has infected Cllr. Mayne's clarity of thought and good judgement - assuming of course he had any prior to being elected. jinglebell
  • Score: 33

10:15am Fri 30 May 14

Carolyn43 says...

Who decides on who the Mayoress is then - can't be his wife can it? That would show nepotism too.
Who decides on who the Mayoress is then - can't be his wife can it? That would show nepotism too. Carolyn43
  • Score: -17

10:15am Fri 30 May 14

Baysider says...

Thestickmeister wrote:
Baysider wrote:
High Treason wrote:
Just the tip of the iceberg and a small insight into how our council awards business contracts.
Oh for gawds sake get over yourself. The bloke's tried to do a nice thing for his grandson, nothing more, nothing less. There's nothing cynister or corrupt about it and btw all council contracts are subject to way more scrutiny and legislation than in the "real" world where backhanders, free trips to Wimbledon and mutual backscratching are very much still the order of the day.

Seriously, there's some proper plums who frequent this site who must spend all day looking for things to beat up the public sector with. Mind you it wouldn't have happened under UKIP...blah...blah..


.blah...wibble, wibble.
I totally disagree; this action is indicative of his character. He has assumed a position of responsibility and despite being given a recommendation through the accepted protocols, he chose to ignore it in favour of a relative.

It doesn't matter what the democratic committee said. Do we really want any councillor in place who will contrive to serve his own personal agenda over that encouraged by the wider audience he is serving?

His very first decision shows he's not fit for his office. The right mayor would know that his family would be precluded from such opportunities in order that he may remain objective with any appointment.

Yes, it's small town politics and not really big news, but it's indicative of the wider issue of self-serving public servants that shouldn't be in office.
Strewth get a grip man.

It was a recommendation, not an edict. He decided that he would like to do something nice for his grandson and checked with the appropriate party whether this was possible and was told it was okay so he went ahead. How some posters are extrapolating from the appointment of a flipping scout that all councillors are corrupt, self serving, nepotists says more about their abysmal attitude to the public sector than anything else.

The irony being of course that most of those moaning are more than likely rapid royalists i.e the most nepotistic organisation to ever exist but when a future mayor of a small seaside council uses the little bit of privilege he's afforded it's somehow indicative of moral corruption of the highest order.
[quote][p][bold]Thestickmeister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Just the tip of the iceberg and a small insight into how our council awards business contracts.[/p][/quote]Oh for gawds sake get over yourself. The bloke's tried to do a nice thing for his grandson, nothing more, nothing less. There's nothing cynister or corrupt about it and btw all council contracts are subject to way more scrutiny and legislation than in the "real" world where backhanders, free trips to Wimbledon and mutual backscratching are very much still the order of the day. Seriously, there's some proper plums who frequent this site who must spend all day looking for things to beat up the public sector with. Mind you it wouldn't have happened under UKIP...blah...blah.. .blah...wibble, wibble.[/p][/quote]I totally disagree; this action is indicative of his character. He has assumed a position of responsibility and despite being given a recommendation through the accepted protocols, he chose to ignore it in favour of a relative. It doesn't matter what the democratic committee said. Do we really want any councillor in place who will contrive to serve his own personal agenda over that encouraged by the wider audience he is serving? His very first decision shows he's not fit for his office. The right mayor would know that his family would be precluded from such opportunities in order that he may remain objective with any appointment. Yes, it's small town politics and not really big news, but it's indicative of the wider issue of self-serving public servants that shouldn't be in office.[/p][/quote]Strewth get a grip man. It was a recommendation, not an edict. He decided that he would like to do something nice for his grandson and checked with the appropriate party whether this was possible and was told it was okay so he went ahead. How some posters are extrapolating from the appointment of a flipping scout that all councillors are corrupt, self serving, nepotists says more about their abysmal attitude to the public sector than anything else. The irony being of course that most of those moaning are more than likely rapid royalists i.e the most nepotistic organisation to ever exist but when a future mayor of a small seaside council uses the little bit of privilege he's afforded it's somehow indicative of moral corruption of the highest order. Baysider
  • Score: -30

10:41am Fri 30 May 14

TheDistrict says...

Where did Cllr Mayne go against protocol, where did Cllr Mayne refuse to accept the decision, Cllr Mayne followed the normal. He chose a child from a youth movement, the Scouts. Normal procedure. It just happens to be his grandchild. Something as I said earlier, we would all do unless it actually states no relatives.

It was only the Parents and Scouts Leaders who complained, no doubt because, oh woe me, they have not picked my child, and he or she so deserves it more.

Why should the grandson be excluded from the list of many children who could have been chosen. Your Grandad is Mayor, you have dippied out, stand at the back.

A mountain out of a mole hill springs to mind. Let both the Scouts enjoy their six months of glory.
Where did Cllr Mayne go against protocol, where did Cllr Mayne refuse to accept the decision, Cllr Mayne followed the normal. He chose a child from a youth movement, the Scouts. Normal procedure. It just happens to be his grandchild. Something as I said earlier, we would all do unless it actually states no relatives. It was only the Parents and Scouts Leaders who complained, no doubt because, oh woe me, they have not picked my child, and he or she so deserves it more. Why should the grandson be excluded from the list of many children who could have been chosen. Your Grandad is Mayor, you have dippied out, stand at the back. A mountain out of a mole hill springs to mind. Let both the Scouts enjoy their six months of glory. TheDistrict
  • Score: -30

10:45am Fri 30 May 14

Fingersonthem says...

If it not on the statute book or written in stone then its his choice.
If it not on the statute book or written in stone then its his choice. Fingersonthem
  • Score: -24

10:59am Fri 30 May 14

charliepike says...

TheDistrict wrote:
Where did Cllr Mayne go against protocol, where did Cllr Mayne refuse to accept the decision, Cllr Mayne followed the normal. He chose a child from a youth movement, the Scouts. Normal procedure. It just happens to be his grandchild. Something as I said earlier, we would all do unless it actually states no relatives.

It was only the Parents and Scouts Leaders who complained, no doubt because, oh woe me, they have not picked my child, and he or she so deserves it more.

Why should the grandson be excluded from the list of many children who could have been chosen. Your Grandad is Mayor, you have dippied out, stand at the back.

A mountain out of a mole hill springs to mind. Let both the Scouts enjoy their six months of glory.
He went against protocol when he decided that he was going to choose his grandson without going through the norm way of the mayors scout being chosen. If his grandson was elected by his scout leader to be interviewed for the role, which is the normal way of doing things, then good luck to him.
On a further note, it was not just the parents and leaders who were complaining about his decision as most of them know the proper way that the mayors scout is selected. They were complaining about it because a mayors scout gets chosen due to their ability to forfil the role, not because their grandfather has a little bit of power.
[quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: Where did Cllr Mayne go against protocol, where did Cllr Mayne refuse to accept the decision, Cllr Mayne followed the normal. He chose a child from a youth movement, the Scouts. Normal procedure. It just happens to be his grandchild. Something as I said earlier, we would all do unless it actually states no relatives. It was only the Parents and Scouts Leaders who complained, no doubt because, oh woe me, they have not picked my child, and he or she so deserves it more. Why should the grandson be excluded from the list of many children who could have been chosen. Your Grandad is Mayor, you have dippied out, stand at the back. A mountain out of a mole hill springs to mind. Let both the Scouts enjoy their six months of glory.[/p][/quote]He went against protocol when he decided that he was going to choose his grandson without going through the norm way of the mayors scout being chosen. If his grandson was elected by his scout leader to be interviewed for the role, which is the normal way of doing things, then good luck to him. On a further note, it was not just the parents and leaders who were complaining about his decision as most of them know the proper way that the mayors scout is selected. They were complaining about it because a mayors scout gets chosen due to their ability to forfil the role, not because their grandfather has a little bit of power. charliepike
  • Score: 35

11:04am Fri 30 May 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

It doesn't bode well for the Mayor when he is involved in scandal on his first day in the role.
It doesn't bode well for the Mayor when he is involved in scandal on his first day in the role. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 28

11:06am Fri 30 May 14

Derf says...

How else will the poor kid get his Nepotism badge?
How else will the poor kid get his Nepotism badge? Derf
  • Score: 31

11:07am Fri 30 May 14

Teddy 1 says...

Feel very sorry for the first choice og the scout association as he has little consideration by the so called mayor here. Also please note that the official choice has the second part of the year which of course doesnt include the air show...the biggest event in the bournemouth calendar....what a surprise! If the system wasnt broke then dont change it mr mayor.

If I were the now second choice I would tell the mayor to stick it as hes obviously not wanted.
Feel very sorry for the first choice og the scout association as he has little consideration by the so called mayor here. Also please note that the official choice has the second part of the year which of course doesnt include the air show...the biggest event in the bournemouth calendar....what a surprise! If the system wasnt broke then dont change it mr mayor. If I were the now second choice I would tell the mayor to stick it as hes obviously not wanted. Teddy 1
  • Score: 31

11:15am Fri 30 May 14

Baysider says...

Baysider wrote:
Thestickmeister wrote:
Baysider wrote:
High Treason wrote:
Just the tip of the iceberg and a small insight into how our council awards business contracts.
Oh for gawds sake get over yourself. The bloke's tried to do a nice thing for his grandson, nothing more, nothing less. There's nothing cynister or corrupt about it and btw all council contracts are subject to way more scrutiny and legislation than in the "real" world where backhanders, free trips to Wimbledon and mutual backscratching are very much still the order of the day.

Seriously, there's some proper plums who frequent this site who must spend all day looking for things to beat up the public sector with. Mind you it wouldn't have happened under UKIP...blah...blah..



.blah...wibble, wibble.
I totally disagree; this action is indicative of his character. He has assumed a position of responsibility and despite being given a recommendation through the accepted protocols, he chose to ignore it in favour of a relative.

It doesn't matter what the democratic committee said. Do we really want any councillor in place who will contrive to serve his own personal agenda over that encouraged by the wider audience he is serving?

His very first decision shows he's not fit for his office. The right mayor would know that his family would be precluded from such opportunities in order that he may remain objective with any appointment.

Yes, it's small town politics and not really big news, but it's indicative of the wider issue of self-serving public servants that shouldn't be in office.
Strewth get a grip man.

It was a recommendation, not an edict. He decided that he would like to do something nice for his grandson and checked with the appropriate party whether this was possible and was told it was okay so he went ahead. How some posters are extrapolating from the appointment of a flipping scout that all councillors are corrupt, self serving, nepotists says more about their abysmal attitude to the public sector than anything else.

The irony being of course that most of those moaning are more than likely rapid royalists i.e the most nepotistic organisation to ever exist but when a future mayor of a small seaside council uses the little bit of privilege he's afforded it's somehow indicative of moral corruption of the highest order.
Er...should read "rabid royalists" of course. I doubt too many of today's batch of Echo moaners are very rapid these days.
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Thestickmeister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Just the tip of the iceberg and a small insight into how our council awards business contracts.[/p][/quote]Oh for gawds sake get over yourself. The bloke's tried to do a nice thing for his grandson, nothing more, nothing less. There's nothing cynister or corrupt about it and btw all council contracts are subject to way more scrutiny and legislation than in the "real" world where backhanders, free trips to Wimbledon and mutual backscratching are very much still the order of the day. Seriously, there's some proper plums who frequent this site who must spend all day looking for things to beat up the public sector with. Mind you it wouldn't have happened under UKIP...blah...blah.. .blah...wibble, wibble.[/p][/quote]I totally disagree; this action is indicative of his character. He has assumed a position of responsibility and despite being given a recommendation through the accepted protocols, he chose to ignore it in favour of a relative. It doesn't matter what the democratic committee said. Do we really want any councillor in place who will contrive to serve his own personal agenda over that encouraged by the wider audience he is serving? His very first decision shows he's not fit for his office. The right mayor would know that his family would be precluded from such opportunities in order that he may remain objective with any appointment. Yes, it's small town politics and not really big news, but it's indicative of the wider issue of self-serving public servants that shouldn't be in office.[/p][/quote]Strewth get a grip man. It was a recommendation, not an edict. He decided that he would like to do something nice for his grandson and checked with the appropriate party whether this was possible and was told it was okay so he went ahead. How some posters are extrapolating from the appointment of a flipping scout that all councillors are corrupt, self serving, nepotists says more about their abysmal attitude to the public sector than anything else. The irony being of course that most of those moaning are more than likely rapid royalists i.e the most nepotistic organisation to ever exist but when a future mayor of a small seaside council uses the little bit of privilege he's afforded it's somehow indicative of moral corruption of the highest order.[/p][/quote]Er...should read "rabid royalists" of course. I doubt too many of today's batch of Echo moaners are very rapid these days. Baysider
  • Score: -11

11:27am Fri 30 May 14

Noel. says...

Thestickmeister wrote:
Baysider wrote:
High Treason wrote:
Just the tip of the iceberg and a small insight into how our council awards business contracts.
Oh for gawds sake get over yourself. The bloke's tried to do a nice thing for his grandson, nothing more, nothing less. There's nothing cynister or corrupt about it and btw all council contracts are subject to way more scrutiny and legislation than in the "real" world where backhanders, free trips to Wimbledon and mutual backscratching are very much still the order of the day.

Seriously, there's some proper plums who frequent this site who must spend all day looking for things to beat up the public sector with. Mind you it wouldn't have happened under UKIP...blah...blah..


.blah...wibble, wibble.
I totally disagree; this action is indicative of his character. He has assumed a position of responsibility and despite being given a recommendation through the accepted protocols, he chose to ignore it in favour of a relative.

It doesn't matter what the democratic committee said. Do we really want any councillor in place who will contrive to serve his own personal agenda over that encouraged by the wider audience he is serving?

His very first decision shows he's not fit for his office. The right mayor would know that his family would be precluded from such opportunities in order that he may remain objective with any appointment.

Yes, it's small town politics and not really big news, but it's indicative of the wider issue of self-serving public servants that shouldn't be in office.
Thestickmeister has hit the nail fairly and squarely on the head.

In business, and politics, it's called a conflict of interests.
[quote][p][bold]Thestickmeister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Just the tip of the iceberg and a small insight into how our council awards business contracts.[/p][/quote]Oh for gawds sake get over yourself. The bloke's tried to do a nice thing for his grandson, nothing more, nothing less. There's nothing cynister or corrupt about it and btw all council contracts are subject to way more scrutiny and legislation than in the "real" world where backhanders, free trips to Wimbledon and mutual backscratching are very much still the order of the day. Seriously, there's some proper plums who frequent this site who must spend all day looking for things to beat up the public sector with. Mind you it wouldn't have happened under UKIP...blah...blah.. .blah...wibble, wibble.[/p][/quote]I totally disagree; this action is indicative of his character. He has assumed a position of responsibility and despite being given a recommendation through the accepted protocols, he chose to ignore it in favour of a relative. It doesn't matter what the democratic committee said. Do we really want any councillor in place who will contrive to serve his own personal agenda over that encouraged by the wider audience he is serving? His very first decision shows he's not fit for his office. The right mayor would know that his family would be precluded from such opportunities in order that he may remain objective with any appointment. Yes, it's small town politics and not really big news, but it's indicative of the wider issue of self-serving public servants that shouldn't be in office.[/p][/quote]Thestickmeister has hit the nail fairly and squarely on the head. In business, and politics, it's called a conflict of interests. Noel.
  • Score: 20

11:29am Fri 30 May 14

Stirling151 says...

Whatever next, Dave Wells on the council ?
Whatever next, Dave Wells on the council ? Stirling151
  • Score: 20

11:46am Fri 30 May 14

rozmister says...

Teddy 1 wrote:
Feel very sorry for the first choice og the scout association as he has little consideration by the so called mayor here. Also please note that the official choice has the second part of the year which of course doesnt include the air show...the biggest event in the bournemouth calendar....what a surprise! If the system wasnt broke then dont change it mr mayor.

If I were the now second choice I would tell the mayor to stick it as hes obviously not wanted.
Yeh the air show that the scouts are famous for being an integral part of...
[quote][p][bold]Teddy 1[/bold] wrote: Feel very sorry for the first choice og the scout association as he has little consideration by the so called mayor here. Also please note that the official choice has the second part of the year which of course doesnt include the air show...the biggest event in the bournemouth calendar....what a surprise! If the system wasnt broke then dont change it mr mayor. If I were the now second choice I would tell the mayor to stick it as hes obviously not wanted.[/p][/quote]Yeh the air show that the scouts are famous for being an integral part of... rozmister
  • Score: -14

11:53am Fri 30 May 14

charliepike says...

Teddy 1 wrote:
Feel very sorry for the first choice og the scout association as he has little consideration by the so called mayor here. Also please note that the official choice has the second part of the year which of course doesnt include the air show...the biggest event in the bournemouth calendar....what a surprise! If the system wasnt broke then dont change it mr mayor.

If I were the now second choice I would tell the mayor to stick it as hes obviously not wanted.
Its not too bad, I still get to be mayors scout for at least some time. And from my knolege its the better part of the year with events such as remeberance Sunday and st Georges day next year.
[quote][p][bold]Teddy 1[/bold] wrote: Feel very sorry for the first choice og the scout association as he has little consideration by the so called mayor here. Also please note that the official choice has the second part of the year which of course doesnt include the air show...the biggest event in the bournemouth calendar....what a surprise! If the system wasnt broke then dont change it mr mayor. If I were the now second choice I would tell the mayor to stick it as hes obviously not wanted.[/p][/quote]Its not too bad, I still get to be mayors scout for at least some time. And from my knolege its the better part of the year with events such as remeberance Sunday and st Georges day next year. charliepike
  • Score: 28

11:59am Fri 30 May 14

Teddy 1 says...

rozmister wrote:
Teddy 1 wrote:
Feel very sorry for the first choice og the scout association as he has little consideration by the so called mayor here. Also please note that the official choice has the second part of the year which of course doesnt include the air show...the biggest event in the bournemouth calendar....what a surprise! If the system wasnt broke then dont change it mr mayor.

If I were the now second choice I would tell the mayor to stick it as hes obviously not wanted.
Yeh the air show that the scouts are famous for being an integral part of...
Doh!

To quote from the article 'The Mayor’s Scout and Guide accompany the mayor at civic engagements.'

...not the other way around! Apology accepted
[quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Teddy 1[/bold] wrote: Feel very sorry for the first choice og the scout association as he has little consideration by the so called mayor here. Also please note that the official choice has the second part of the year which of course doesnt include the air show...the biggest event in the bournemouth calendar....what a surprise! If the system wasnt broke then dont change it mr mayor. If I were the now second choice I would tell the mayor to stick it as hes obviously not wanted.[/p][/quote]Yeh the air show that the scouts are famous for being an integral part of...[/p][/quote]Doh! To quote from the article 'The Mayor’s Scout and Guide accompany the mayor at civic engagements.' ...not the other way around! Apology accepted Teddy 1
  • Score: 4

12:10pm Fri 30 May 14

BmthNewshound says...

Nepotism and Bournemouth Council go together like fish and chips – you can’t have one without the other.
.
Over the past few years the current regime has brought the position of mayor into disrepute on more than one occasion. By completely ignoring the usual protocols Chris Mayne has again undermined the neutrality and dignity of the position of mayor and is not fit to hold the position.
Nepotism and Bournemouth Council go together like fish and chips – you can’t have one without the other. . Over the past few years the current regime has brought the position of mayor into disrepute on more than one occasion. By completely ignoring the usual protocols Chris Mayne has again undermined the neutrality and dignity of the position of mayor and is not fit to hold the position. BmthNewshound
  • Score: 12

12:15pm Fri 30 May 14

rozmister says...

Teddy 1 wrote:
rozmister wrote:
Teddy 1 wrote:
Feel very sorry for the first choice og the scout association as he has little consideration by the so called mayor here. Also please note that the official choice has the second part of the year which of course doesnt include the air show...the biggest event in the bournemouth calendar....what a surprise! If the system wasnt broke then dont change it mr mayor.

If I were the now second choice I would tell the mayor to stick it as hes obviously not wanted.
Yeh the air show that the scouts are famous for being an integral part of...
Doh!

To quote from the article 'The Mayor’s Scout and Guide accompany the mayor at civic engagements.'

...not the other way around! Apology accepted
I'm not sorry so no apology will be forthcoming. You can whistle for it especially given your arrogance.

The best events for accompanying the mayor are ones with scouting links not tourist traps. It's not about what the scout can blag it's about representing your scout group and the scouting movement within the local community plus the prestige the role carries.
[quote][p][bold]Teddy 1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Teddy 1[/bold] wrote: Feel very sorry for the first choice og the scout association as he has little consideration by the so called mayor here. Also please note that the official choice has the second part of the year which of course doesnt include the air show...the biggest event in the bournemouth calendar....what a surprise! If the system wasnt broke then dont change it mr mayor. If I were the now second choice I would tell the mayor to stick it as hes obviously not wanted.[/p][/quote]Yeh the air show that the scouts are famous for being an integral part of...[/p][/quote]Doh! To quote from the article 'The Mayor’s Scout and Guide accompany the mayor at civic engagements.' ...not the other way around! Apology accepted[/p][/quote]I'm not sorry so no apology will be forthcoming. You can whistle for it especially given your arrogance. The best events for accompanying the mayor are ones with scouting links not tourist traps. It's not about what the scout can blag it's about representing your scout group and the scouting movement within the local community plus the prestige the role carries. rozmister
  • Score: -8

12:31pm Fri 30 May 14

John T says...

Be Prepared ...for any skullduggery from Bournemouth's Conservative Councillors, especially the Mayne man....and I don't mean the Mayor!
Be Prepared ...for any skullduggery from Bournemouth's Conservative Councillors, especially the Mayne man....and I don't mean the Mayor! John T
  • Score: 7

12:38pm Fri 30 May 14

Teddy 1 says...

charliepike wrote:
Teddy 1 wrote:
Feel very sorry for the first choice og the scout association as he has little consideration by the so called mayor here. Also please note that the official choice has the second part of the year which of course doesnt include the air show...the biggest event in the bournemouth calendar....what a surprise! If the system wasnt broke then dont change it mr mayor.

If I were the now second choice I would tell the mayor to stick it as hes obviously not wanted.
Its not too bad, I still get to be mayors scout for at least some time. And from my knolege its the better part of the year with events such as remeberance Sunday and st Georges day next year.
Good for you. I wish you well in your role, well done.
[quote][p][bold]charliepike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Teddy 1[/bold] wrote: Feel very sorry for the first choice og the scout association as he has little consideration by the so called mayor here. Also please note that the official choice has the second part of the year which of course doesnt include the air show...the biggest event in the bournemouth calendar....what a surprise! If the system wasnt broke then dont change it mr mayor. If I were the now second choice I would tell the mayor to stick it as hes obviously not wanted.[/p][/quote]Its not too bad, I still get to be mayors scout for at least some time. And from my knolege its the better part of the year with events such as remeberance Sunday and st Georges day next year.[/p][/quote]Good for you. I wish you well in your role, well done. Teddy 1
  • Score: 23

12:39pm Fri 30 May 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

charliepike wrote:
Teddy 1 wrote:
Feel very sorry for the first choice og the scout association as he has little consideration by the so called mayor here. Also please note that the official choice has the second part of the year which of course doesnt include the air show...the biggest event in the bournemouth calendar....what a surprise! If the system wasnt broke then dont change it mr mayor.

If I were the now second choice I would tell the mayor to stick it as hes obviously not wanted.
Its not too bad, I still get to be mayors scout for at least some time. And from my knolege its the better part of the year with events such as remeberance Sunday and st Georges day next year.
Hello Charlie, how do you really feel about this ?
[quote][p][bold]charliepike[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Teddy 1[/bold] wrote: Feel very sorry for the first choice og the scout association as he has little consideration by the so called mayor here. Also please note that the official choice has the second part of the year which of course doesnt include the air show...the biggest event in the bournemouth calendar....what a surprise! If the system wasnt broke then dont change it mr mayor. If I were the now second choice I would tell the mayor to stick it as hes obviously not wanted.[/p][/quote]Its not too bad, I still get to be mayors scout for at least some time. And from my knolege its the better part of the year with events such as remeberance Sunday and st Georges day next year.[/p][/quote]Hello Charlie, how do you really feel about this ? Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 7

1:16pm Fri 30 May 14

B.A.T.A.G. says...

On my honour, I promise that I will do my best, to do my duty to God and the Queen and to Bournemouth Council, to help my grandson, and to break the Scouting and Council Law.
Dib, Dib, Dib, and to help the Bournemouth residents by doing Bob a Job for them in my year as Mayor.
On my honour, I promise that I will do my best, to do my duty to God and the Queen and to Bournemouth Council, to help my grandson, and to break the Scouting and Council Law. Dib, Dib, Dib, and to help the Bournemouth residents by doing Bob a Job for them in my year as Mayor. B.A.T.A.G.
  • Score: 9

1:44pm Fri 30 May 14

breamoreboy says...

Stirling151 wrote:
Whatever next, Dave Wells on the council ?
Better the devil you know?
[quote][p][bold]Stirling151[/bold] wrote: Whatever next, Dave Wells on the council ?[/p][/quote]Better the devil you know? breamoreboy
  • Score: 4

2:44pm Fri 30 May 14

apm1954 says...

so that excludes the young lad from anything to do with the council, why he may have been the best candidate.
so that excludes the young lad from anything to do with the council, why he may have been the best candidate. apm1954
  • Score: -8

4:00pm Fri 30 May 14

Judaas says...

Obviously he does not believe in democracy he wants to dictate. Clearly the wrong man for the job
Obviously he does not believe in democracy he wants to dictate. Clearly the wrong man for the job Judaas
  • Score: 9

4:06pm Fri 30 May 14

pete woodley says...

Mayne should resign.
Mayne should resign. pete woodley
  • Score: 13

4:45pm Fri 30 May 14

yasinac says...

In my own opinion, as a Councillor Mr Mayne was effective and caring of his local community and I don't see the issue with his decision. He's stated that he checked beforehand that no rules were being broken and his grandson has played an active part in the Scouting movement. If this role were to some financial gain perhaps it would be different, but both of those chosen will have a busy year fronting up different activities. With the pressure put on children of this age in school they may both be glad to only have to do 6 months each.
In my own opinion, as a Councillor Mr Mayne was effective and caring of his local community and I don't see the issue with his decision. He's stated that he checked beforehand that no rules were being broken and his grandson has played an active part in the Scouting movement. If this role were to some financial gain perhaps it would be different, but both of those chosen will have a busy year fronting up different activities. With the pressure put on children of this age in school they may both be glad to only have to do 6 months each. yasinac
  • Score: -13

6:14pm Fri 30 May 14

Glashen says...

TheDistrict wrote:
Arjay wrote:
Understandable thing for a grandfather to do... probably not the most sensible thing for a mayor-elect to do.
He should have checked on the 'normal' selection procedure, before saying anything to the boy......
And this compromise is not likely to do the lad any favours, in his relationship with his fellow scouts....
“I went to democratic services who said they didn’t see a problem with it so that’s what I did.

He did Arjay...............

....................

....
That is the point Chris Mayne got it wrong, it happens what is worrying is the "advice" he received from highly paid council officers. I find it unbelievable that they could not see that this would cause a furore. A Grandparent can be forgiven for not seeing the situation as it is, a council officer should have taken a more hard headed view.
[quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arjay[/bold] wrote: Understandable thing for a grandfather to do... probably not the most sensible thing for a mayor-elect to do. He should have checked on the 'normal' selection procedure, before saying anything to the boy...... And this compromise is not likely to do the lad any favours, in his relationship with his fellow scouts....[/p][/quote]“I went to democratic services who said they didn’t see a problem with it so that’s what I did. He did Arjay............... .................... ....[/p][/quote]That is the point Chris Mayne got it wrong, it happens what is worrying is the "advice" he received from highly paid council officers. I find it unbelievable that they could not see that this would cause a furore. A Grandparent can be forgiven for not seeing the situation as it is, a council officer should have taken a more hard headed view. Glashen
  • Score: 6

6:25pm Fri 30 May 14

Yankee1 says...

I feel sorry for the young lad. At 11, I doubt he was part of any shenanigans.

His grandfather should know better. It looks as though Bournemouth has another 'prize' for its Mayor.
I feel sorry for the young lad. At 11, I doubt he was part of any shenanigans. His grandfather should know better. It looks as though Bournemouth has another 'prize' for its Mayor. Yankee1
  • Score: 9

7:12pm Fri 30 May 14

Baysider says...

Glashen wrote:
TheDistrict wrote:
Arjay wrote:
Understandable thing for a grandfather to do... probably not the most sensible thing for a mayor-elect to do.
He should have checked on the 'normal' selection procedure, before saying anything to the boy......
And this compromise is not likely to do the lad any favours, in his relationship with his fellow scouts....
“I went to democratic services who said they didn’t see a problem with it so that’s what I did.

He did Arjay...............


....................


....
That is the point Chris Mayne got it wrong, it happens what is worrying is the "advice" he received from highly paid council officers. I find it unbelievable that they could not see that this would cause a furore. A Grandparent can be forgiven for not seeing the situation as it is, a council officer should have taken a more hard headed view.
Jeez...why, why, why are the words Council Officer ALWAYS flipping prefixed by "Highly Paid' on this website??? The fact is that the average council worker earns far LESS than the average salary not more. That's a matter of statistical fact.

Moving on, you have no evidence that this "highly paid" officer got it wrong at all. We all know what happened here, it was within the rules for him to elect his grandson but it all kicked off afterwards and they reached a compromise. In other words Glashen, they got it RIGHT not wrong.
[quote][p][bold]Glashen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Arjay[/bold] wrote: Understandable thing for a grandfather to do... probably not the most sensible thing for a mayor-elect to do. He should have checked on the 'normal' selection procedure, before saying anything to the boy...... And this compromise is not likely to do the lad any favours, in his relationship with his fellow scouts....[/p][/quote]“I went to democratic services who said they didn’t see a problem with it so that’s what I did. He did Arjay............... .................... ....[/p][/quote]That is the point Chris Mayne got it wrong, it happens what is worrying is the "advice" he received from highly paid council officers. I find it unbelievable that they could not see that this would cause a furore. A Grandparent can be forgiven for not seeing the situation as it is, a council officer should have taken a more hard headed view.[/p][/quote]Jeez...why, why, why are the words Council Officer ALWAYS flipping prefixed by "Highly Paid' on this website??? The fact is that the average council worker earns far LESS than the average salary not more. That's a matter of statistical fact. Moving on, you have no evidence that this "highly paid" officer got it wrong at all. We all know what happened here, it was within the rules for him to elect his grandson but it all kicked off afterwards and they reached a compromise. In other words Glashen, they got it RIGHT not wrong. Baysider
  • Score: -1

7:17pm Fri 30 May 14

ctrewyou says...

yasinac wrote:
In my own opinion, as a Councillor Mr Mayne was effective and caring of his local community and I don't see the issue with his decision. He's stated that he checked beforehand that no rules were being broken and his grandson has played an active part in the Scouting movement. If this role were to some financial gain perhaps it would be different, but both of those chosen will have a busy year fronting up different activities. With the pressure put on children of this age in school they may both be glad to only have to do 6 months each.
But the problem in Bournemouth is that if it were a financial decision, things would actually not be very different at all. The politicians in power just want to "do something nice" for their family or friends. Nothing wrong with that, except it's called corruption, I'm afraid. Of course they check that no rules are actually broken, but still award contracts to their friends and family. It's the culture in the town, unfortunately, politicians only want to get into positions of power so they can get something out of it for themselves.
[quote][p][bold]yasinac[/bold] wrote: In my own opinion, as a Councillor Mr Mayne was effective and caring of his local community and I don't see the issue with his decision. He's stated that he checked beforehand that no rules were being broken and his grandson has played an active part in the Scouting movement. If this role were to some financial gain perhaps it would be different, but both of those chosen will have a busy year fronting up different activities. With the pressure put on children of this age in school they may both be glad to only have to do 6 months each.[/p][/quote]But the problem in Bournemouth is that if it were a financial decision, things would actually not be very different at all. The politicians in power just want to "do something nice" for their family or friends. Nothing wrong with that, except it's called corruption, I'm afraid. Of course they check that no rules are actually broken, but still award contracts to their friends and family. It's the culture in the town, unfortunately, politicians only want to get into positions of power so they can get something out of it for themselves. ctrewyou
  • Score: 5

7:50pm Fri 30 May 14

O'Reilly says...

Fingersonthem wrote:
If it not on the statute book or written in stone then its his choice.
No....I checked. It's not one of the Noahide Laws.
[quote][p][bold]Fingersonthem[/bold] wrote: If it not on the statute book or written in stone then its his choice.[/p][/quote]No....I checked. It's not one of the Noahide Laws. O'Reilly
  • Score: 3

9:40pm Fri 30 May 14

chris colledge says...

I rarely make comments on this site.
I have always held the greatest respect for Chris Maine when I was part of the Bournemouth Town Centre Parish as a retired priest.....and who caught the lead thief at St.Stephen's!!

I am sad to say his actions on this issue is totally wrong and misjudged.

I believe personal circumstances have dictated his decision and in the responsibility of being a forthcoming Mayor of Bournemouth this totally undermines respect and confidence.
Reverend Chris Colledge.
I rarely make comments on this site. I have always held the greatest respect for Chris Maine when I was part of the Bournemouth Town Centre Parish as a retired priest.....and who caught the lead thief at St.Stephen's!! I am sad to say his actions on this issue is totally wrong and misjudged. I believe personal circumstances have dictated his decision and in the responsibility of being a forthcoming Mayor of Bournemouth this totally undermines respect and confidence. Reverend Chris Colledge. chris colledge
  • Score: 8

11:16pm Fri 30 May 14

chris colledge says...

Is there any reason why the two selected 'deputies' for the year cannot fulfil the full year of office jointly?
All of this debate undermines the position of 'Mayor Elect' for the next year...before Chris Mayne has even begun!
Is there any reason why the two selected 'deputies' for the year cannot fulfil the full year of office jointly? All of this debate undermines the position of 'Mayor Elect' for the next year...before Chris Mayne has even begun! chris colledge
  • Score: 7

11:19pm Fri 30 May 14

whataboutthat says...

?
? whataboutthat
  • Score: -2

11:21pm Fri 30 May 14

whataboutthat says...

Quite something to see trolls trolling trolls...amazing...g
ood night (gents)
Quite something to see trolls trolling trolls...amazing...g ood night (gents) whataboutthat
  • Score: -3

11:45pm Fri 30 May 14

Western Sunset says...

Getting back to the main part of this story.

If you're a teacher with one of your own children in your class, you know (and your child knows) that they will not be chosen for the leading role in the school play - no matter how good they are.

Hence an established councillor should know that chosing a close relative in such a situation as this, not withstanding their innocent motives, is not the right thing to do.

It's called common sense and doing the right thing.
Getting back to the main part of this story. If you're a teacher with one of your own children in your class, you know (and your child knows) that they will not be chosen for the leading role in the school play - no matter how good they are. Hence an established councillor should know that chosing a close relative in such a situation as this, not withstanding their innocent motives, is not the right thing to do. It's called common sense and doing the right thing. Western Sunset
  • Score: 9

11:52pm Fri 30 May 14

yasinac says...

ctrewyou wrote:
Baysider wrote:
ctrewyou wrote:
yasinac wrote:
In my own opinion, as a Councillor Mr Mayne was effective and caring of his local community and I don't see the issue with his decision. He's stated that he checked beforehand that no rules were being broken and his grandson has played an active part in the Scouting movement. If this role were to some financial gain perhaps it would be different, but both of those chosen will have a busy year fronting up different activities. With the pressure put on children of this age in school they may both be glad to only have to do 6 months each.
But the problem in Bournemouth is that if it were a financial decision, things would actually not be very different at all. The politicians in power just want to "do something nice" for their family or friends. Nothing wrong with that, except it's called corruption, I'm afraid. Of course they check that no rules are actually broken, but still award contracts to their friends and family. It's the culture in the town, unfortunately, politicians only want to get into positions of power so they can get something out of it for themselves.
Yet another groundless allegation of corruption and IF it were a financial contract under discussion then there would be a whole raft of checks and measures (and legislation) to comply with. Or do you just think every contract's open to the biggest bribe and ALL those involved are bent as a nine bob note???
Yes
Mr Mayne stated that Noah was his grandson and that he would like to make him chief Scout to accompany him on Mayoral engagements. Nothing more than doing something nice and wanting to spend memorable time with his grandson. I only wish our children had such doting grandparents.
No different to someone giving a friend or family a job in their company. We should all want to use our own advantages to improve the lives or experiences of those we love.
It could have been called corruption if Mr Mayne hadn't of been transparent in voicing his interest but he did and as the mum of a scout it doesn't bother me one jot.
[quote][p][bold]ctrewyou[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ctrewyou[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yasinac[/bold] wrote: In my own opinion, as a Councillor Mr Mayne was effective and caring of his local community and I don't see the issue with his decision. He's stated that he checked beforehand that no rules were being broken and his grandson has played an active part in the Scouting movement. If this role were to some financial gain perhaps it would be different, but both of those chosen will have a busy year fronting up different activities. With the pressure put on children of this age in school they may both be glad to only have to do 6 months each.[/p][/quote]But the problem in Bournemouth is that if it were a financial decision, things would actually not be very different at all. The politicians in power just want to "do something nice" for their family or friends. Nothing wrong with that, except it's called corruption, I'm afraid. Of course they check that no rules are actually broken, but still award contracts to their friends and family. It's the culture in the town, unfortunately, politicians only want to get into positions of power so they can get something out of it for themselves.[/p][/quote]Yet another groundless allegation of corruption and IF it were a financial contract under discussion then there would be a whole raft of checks and measures (and legislation) to comply with. Or do you just think every contract's open to the biggest bribe and ALL those involved are bent as a nine bob note???[/p][/quote]Yes[/p][/quote]Mr Mayne stated that Noah was his grandson and that he would like to make him chief Scout to accompany him on Mayoral engagements. Nothing more than doing something nice and wanting to spend memorable time with his grandson. I only wish our children had such doting grandparents. No different to someone giving a friend or family a job in their company. We should all want to use our own advantages to improve the lives or experiences of those we love. It could have been called corruption if Mr Mayne hadn't of been transparent in voicing his interest but he did and as the mum of a scout it doesn't bother me one jot. yasinac
  • Score: 6

11:55pm Fri 30 May 14

pete woodley says...

Western Sunset wrote:
Getting back to the main part of this story.

If you're a teacher with one of your own children in your class, you know (and your child knows) that they will not be chosen for the leading role in the school play - no matter how good they are.

Hence an established councillor should know that chosing a close relative in such a situation as this, not withstanding their innocent motives, is not the right thing to do.

It's called common sense and doing the right thing.
But a lot of councillors nowadays do not use common sense.
[quote][p][bold]Western Sunset[/bold] wrote: Getting back to the main part of this story. If you're a teacher with one of your own children in your class, you know (and your child knows) that they will not be chosen for the leading role in the school play - no matter how good they are. Hence an established councillor should know that chosing a close relative in such a situation as this, not withstanding their innocent motives, is not the right thing to do. It's called common sense and doing the right thing.[/p][/quote]But a lot of councillors nowadays do not use common sense. pete woodley
  • Score: -2

5:07am Sat 31 May 14

BIGTONE says...

Jobs for the boy..........
Jobs for the boy.......... BIGTONE
  • Score: 1

7:58am Sat 31 May 14

nothingtofear says...

s-pb2 wrote:
I cant believe so many are venting their spleens over the choice of head scout!
Seriously!

Yet we have cuts in helping those with learning difficulties and children who are suffering from neglect. Yet so few give a f***.

The best thing the people of Bournemouth are good at is getting their pitchforks and burning torches out, here is a perfect example! What next, moaning about a noddy train? (What do you mean the weirdos have done that already? Freaks!)
Agreed and how many people even knew that there was such a thing as a Mayor's Scout before this story broke?
[quote][p][bold]s-pb2[/bold] wrote: I cant believe so many are venting their spleens over the choice of head scout! Seriously! Yet we have cuts in helping those with learning difficulties and children who are suffering from neglect. Yet so few give a f***. The best thing the people of Bournemouth are good at is getting their pitchforks and burning torches out, here is a perfect example! What next, moaning about a noddy train? (What do you mean the weirdos have done that already? Freaks!)[/p][/quote]Agreed and how many people even knew that there was such a thing as a Mayor's Scout before this story broke? nothingtofear
  • Score: 1

9:30am Sat 31 May 14

Baysider says...

ctrewyou wrote:
Baysider wrote:
ctrewyou wrote:
yasinac wrote:
In my own opinion, as a Councillor Mr Mayne was effective and caring of his local community and I don't see the issue with his decision. He's stated that he checked beforehand that no rules were being broken and his grandson has played an active part in the Scouting movement. If this role were to some financial gain perhaps it would be different, but both of those chosen will have a busy year fronting up different activities. With the pressure put on children of this age in school they may both be glad to only have to do 6 months each.
But the problem in Bournemouth is that if it were a financial decision, things would actually not be very different at all. The politicians in power just want to "do something nice" for their family or friends. Nothing wrong with that, except it's called corruption, I'm afraid. Of course they check that no rules are actually broken, but still award contracts to their friends and family. It's the culture in the town, unfortunately, politicians only want to get into positions of power so they can get something out of it for themselves.
Yet another groundless allegation of corruption and IF it were a financial contract under discussion then there would be a whole raft of checks and measures (and legislation) to comply with. Or do you just think every contract's open to the biggest bribe and ALL those involved are bent as a nine bob note???
Yes
So you think that ALL the various officers involved in drawing up the tender docs, ALL the officers involved in assessing them, ALL the more senior officers /councillors involved making a decision, ALL the finance department officers involved in processing payment, ALL the audit officers scrutinising the contract process and outcome are ALL bent? This in an era when all expenditure over a few hundred pounds is published.

You keep banging on with your allegations of corruption and one day you'll get your chance to prove your crackpot theory to a court...
[quote][p][bold]ctrewyou[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ctrewyou[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yasinac[/bold] wrote: In my own opinion, as a Councillor Mr Mayne was effective and caring of his local community and I don't see the issue with his decision. He's stated that he checked beforehand that no rules were being broken and his grandson has played an active part in the Scouting movement. If this role were to some financial gain perhaps it would be different, but both of those chosen will have a busy year fronting up different activities. With the pressure put on children of this age in school they may both be glad to only have to do 6 months each.[/p][/quote]But the problem in Bournemouth is that if it were a financial decision, things would actually not be very different at all. The politicians in power just want to "do something nice" for their family or friends. Nothing wrong with that, except it's called corruption, I'm afraid. Of course they check that no rules are actually broken, but still award contracts to their friends and family. It's the culture in the town, unfortunately, politicians only want to get into positions of power so they can get something out of it for themselves.[/p][/quote]Yet another groundless allegation of corruption and IF it were a financial contract under discussion then there would be a whole raft of checks and measures (and legislation) to comply with. Or do you just think every contract's open to the biggest bribe and ALL those involved are bent as a nine bob note???[/p][/quote]Yes[/p][/quote]So you think that ALL the various officers involved in drawing up the tender docs, ALL the officers involved in assessing them, ALL the more senior officers /councillors involved making a decision, ALL the finance department officers involved in processing payment, ALL the audit officers scrutinising the contract process and outcome are ALL bent? This in an era when all expenditure over a few hundred pounds is published. You keep banging on with your allegations of corruption and one day you'll get your chance to prove your crackpot theory to a court... Baysider
  • Score: -2

9:30am Sat 31 May 14

Baysider says...

ctrewyou wrote:
Baysider wrote:
ctrewyou wrote:
yasinac wrote:
In my own opinion, as a Councillor Mr Mayne was effective and caring of his local community and I don't see the issue with his decision. He's stated that he checked beforehand that no rules were being broken and his grandson has played an active part in the Scouting movement. If this role were to some financial gain perhaps it would be different, but both of those chosen will have a busy year fronting up different activities. With the pressure put on children of this age in school they may both be glad to only have to do 6 months each.
But the problem in Bournemouth is that if it were a financial decision, things would actually not be very different at all. The politicians in power just want to "do something nice" for their family or friends. Nothing wrong with that, except it's called corruption, I'm afraid. Of course they check that no rules are actually broken, but still award contracts to their friends and family. It's the culture in the town, unfortunately, politicians only want to get into positions of power so they can get something out of it for themselves.
Yet another groundless allegation of corruption and IF it were a financial contract under discussion then there would be a whole raft of checks and measures (and legislation) to comply with. Or do you just think every contract's open to the biggest bribe and ALL those involved are bent as a nine bob note???
Yes
So you think that ALL the various officers involved in drawing up the tender docs, ALL the officers involved in assessing them, ALL the more senior officers /councillors involved making a decision, ALL the finance department officers involved in processing payment, ALL the audit officers scrutinising the contract process and outcome are ALL bent? This in an era when all expenditure over a few hundred pounds is published.

You keep banging on with your allegations of corruption and one day you'll get your chance to prove your crackpot theory to a court...
[quote][p][bold]ctrewyou[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ctrewyou[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yasinac[/bold] wrote: In my own opinion, as a Councillor Mr Mayne was effective and caring of his local community and I don't see the issue with his decision. He's stated that he checked beforehand that no rules were being broken and his grandson has played an active part in the Scouting movement. If this role were to some financial gain perhaps it would be different, but both of those chosen will have a busy year fronting up different activities. With the pressure put on children of this age in school they may both be glad to only have to do 6 months each.[/p][/quote]But the problem in Bournemouth is that if it were a financial decision, things would actually not be very different at all. The politicians in power just want to "do something nice" for their family or friends. Nothing wrong with that, except it's called corruption, I'm afraid. Of course they check that no rules are actually broken, but still award contracts to their friends and family. It's the culture in the town, unfortunately, politicians only want to get into positions of power so they can get something out of it for themselves.[/p][/quote]Yet another groundless allegation of corruption and IF it were a financial contract under discussion then there would be a whole raft of checks and measures (and legislation) to comply with. Or do you just think every contract's open to the biggest bribe and ALL those involved are bent as a nine bob note???[/p][/quote]Yes[/p][/quote]So you think that ALL the various officers involved in drawing up the tender docs, ALL the officers involved in assessing them, ALL the more senior officers /councillors involved making a decision, ALL the finance department officers involved in processing payment, ALL the audit officers scrutinising the contract process and outcome are ALL bent? This in an era when all expenditure over a few hundred pounds is published. You keep banging on with your allegations of corruption and one day you'll get your chance to prove your crackpot theory to a court... Baysider
  • Score: 0

9:30am Sat 31 May 14

Baysider says...

ctrewyou wrote:
Baysider wrote:
ctrewyou wrote:
yasinac wrote:
In my own opinion, as a Councillor Mr Mayne was effective and caring of his local community and I don't see the issue with his decision. He's stated that he checked beforehand that no rules were being broken and his grandson has played an active part in the Scouting movement. If this role were to some financial gain perhaps it would be different, but both of those chosen will have a busy year fronting up different activities. With the pressure put on children of this age in school they may both be glad to only have to do 6 months each.
But the problem in Bournemouth is that if it were a financial decision, things would actually not be very different at all. The politicians in power just want to "do something nice" for their family or friends. Nothing wrong with that, except it's called corruption, I'm afraid. Of course they check that no rules are actually broken, but still award contracts to their friends and family. It's the culture in the town, unfortunately, politicians only want to get into positions of power so they can get something out of it for themselves.
Yet another groundless allegation of corruption and IF it were a financial contract under discussion then there would be a whole raft of checks and measures (and legislation) to comply with. Or do you just think every contract's open to the biggest bribe and ALL those involved are bent as a nine bob note???
Yes
So you think that ALL the various officers involved in drawing up the tender docs, ALL the officers involved in assessing them, ALL the more senior officers /councillors involved making a decision, ALL the finance department officers involved in processing payment, ALL the audit officers scrutinising the contract process and outcome are ALL bent? This in an era when all expenditure over a few hundred pounds is published.

You keep banging on with your allegations of corruption and one day you'll get your chance to prove your crackpot theory to a court...
[quote][p][bold]ctrewyou[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ctrewyou[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yasinac[/bold] wrote: In my own opinion, as a Councillor Mr Mayne was effective and caring of his local community and I don't see the issue with his decision. He's stated that he checked beforehand that no rules were being broken and his grandson has played an active part in the Scouting movement. If this role were to some financial gain perhaps it would be different, but both of those chosen will have a busy year fronting up different activities. With the pressure put on children of this age in school they may both be glad to only have to do 6 months each.[/p][/quote]But the problem in Bournemouth is that if it were a financial decision, things would actually not be very different at all. The politicians in power just want to "do something nice" for their family or friends. Nothing wrong with that, except it's called corruption, I'm afraid. Of course they check that no rules are actually broken, but still award contracts to their friends and family. It's the culture in the town, unfortunately, politicians only want to get into positions of power so they can get something out of it for themselves.[/p][/quote]Yet another groundless allegation of corruption and IF it were a financial contract under discussion then there would be a whole raft of checks and measures (and legislation) to comply with. Or do you just think every contract's open to the biggest bribe and ALL those involved are bent as a nine bob note???[/p][/quote]Yes[/p][/quote]So you think that ALL the various officers involved in drawing up the tender docs, ALL the officers involved in assessing them, ALL the more senior officers /councillors involved making a decision, ALL the finance department officers involved in processing payment, ALL the audit officers scrutinising the contract process and outcome are ALL bent? This in an era when all expenditure over a few hundred pounds is published. You keep banging on with your allegations of corruption and one day you'll get your chance to prove your crackpot theory to a court... Baysider
  • Score: 0

9:46pm Sat 31 May 14

Dorset Logic says...

Baysider wrote:
ctrewyou wrote:
Baysider wrote:
ctrewyou wrote:
yasinac wrote:
In my own opinion, as a Councillor Mr Mayne was effective and caring of his local community and I don't see the issue with his decision. He's stated that he checked beforehand that no rules were being broken and his grandson has played an active part in the Scouting movement. If this role were to some financial gain perhaps it would be different, but both of those chosen will have a busy year fronting up different activities. With the pressure put on children of this age in school they may both be glad to only have to do 6 months each.
But the problem in Bournemouth is that if it were a financial decision, things would actually not be very different at all. The politicians in power just want to "do something nice" for their family or friends. Nothing wrong with that, except it's called corruption, I'm afraid. Of course they check that no rules are actually broken, but still award contracts to their friends and family. It's the culture in the town, unfortunately, politicians only want to get into positions of power so they can get something out of it for themselves.
Yet another groundless allegation of corruption and IF it were a financial contract under discussion then there would be a whole raft of checks and measures (and legislation) to comply with. Or do you just think every contract's open to the biggest bribe and ALL those involved are bent as a nine bob note???
Yes
So you think that ALL the various officers involved in drawing up the tender docs, ALL the officers involved in assessing them, ALL the more senior officers /councillors involved making a decision, ALL the finance department officers involved in processing payment, ALL the audit officers scrutinising the contract process and outcome are ALL bent? This in an era when all expenditure over a few hundred pounds is published.

You keep banging on with your allegations of corruption and one day you'll get your chance to prove your crackpot theory to a court...
unlike public sector to threaten court when someone speaks against them
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ctrewyou[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ctrewyou[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yasinac[/bold] wrote: In my own opinion, as a Councillor Mr Mayne was effective and caring of his local community and I don't see the issue with his decision. He's stated that he checked beforehand that no rules were being broken and his grandson has played an active part in the Scouting movement. If this role were to some financial gain perhaps it would be different, but both of those chosen will have a busy year fronting up different activities. With the pressure put on children of this age in school they may both be glad to only have to do 6 months each.[/p][/quote]But the problem in Bournemouth is that if it were a financial decision, things would actually not be very different at all. The politicians in power just want to "do something nice" for their family or friends. Nothing wrong with that, except it's called corruption, I'm afraid. Of course they check that no rules are actually broken, but still award contracts to their friends and family. It's the culture in the town, unfortunately, politicians only want to get into positions of power so they can get something out of it for themselves.[/p][/quote]Yet another groundless allegation of corruption and IF it were a financial contract under discussion then there would be a whole raft of checks and measures (and legislation) to comply with. Or do you just think every contract's open to the biggest bribe and ALL those involved are bent as a nine bob note???[/p][/quote]Yes[/p][/quote]So you think that ALL the various officers involved in drawing up the tender docs, ALL the officers involved in assessing them, ALL the more senior officers /councillors involved making a decision, ALL the finance department officers involved in processing payment, ALL the audit officers scrutinising the contract process and outcome are ALL bent? This in an era when all expenditure over a few hundred pounds is published. You keep banging on with your allegations of corruption and one day you'll get your chance to prove your crackpot theory to a court...[/p][/quote]unlike public sector to threaten court when someone speaks against them Dorset Logic
  • Score: 3

7:36am Mon 2 Jun 14

shouldknowbetter says...

shame his grandson couldn't wear full uniform to his father's Civic Service choosing school trousers instead!
shame his grandson couldn't wear full uniform to his father's Civic Service choosing school trousers instead! shouldknowbetter
  • Score: -2

Comments are closed on this article.

click2find

About cookies

We want you to enjoy your visit to our website. That's why we use cookies to enhance your experience. By staying on our website you agree to our use of cookies. Find out more about the cookies we use.

I agree