Former fireman David Bryant jailed for six years for raping schoolboy almost 40 years ago

Former fireman David Bryant jailed for six years for raping schoolboy almost 40 years ago

Former fireman David Bryant jailed for six years for raping schoolboy almost 40 years ago

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FORMER retained firefighter David Bryant was jailed for six years today after being found guilty of raping a schoolboy in Christchurch almost 40 years ago.

The 63-year-old was silent as he was led from the courtroom, watched by family members and friends in the public gallery, and also by his victim, Danny Day, who has waived his right to anonymity.

Sentencing him at Bournemouth Crown Court, Judge Samuel Wiggs said he was jailing him for the least possible time he was allowed, reduced from a starting point for the offence of ten years imprisonment.

“It is difficult to think of anybody who has shown, over the years, a stronger sense of civic and public duty than you have,” he said.

“It may be as your counsel said, that you were trying to repay in some way what you did on that day almost 40 years ago.”

During the trial, the court heard that Bryant and a fellow retained firefighter, Dennis Goodman, who is now deceased, had befriended Mr Day and invited him to play darts with them at Christchurch Fire Station during the 1970s.

During the incident in question, the victim, then aged 14, was held down over a table by the pair, who then took it in turns to rape him while having sex with each other.

Mr Day said his decision to go to the police was partly inspired by the Jimmy Savile revelations.

Judge Wiggs said he believed Bryant, then 26, was strongly influenced in the crime by Mr Goodman.

“On that one occasion, the only one in your life, you committed a very serious criminal offence,” he said.

The court heard that more than 30 letters from friends, family and former colleagues of Bryant had been written to the judge, and one of the writers, former Dorset Chief Fire Officer Martin Chapman, addressed the court in mitigation.

“Over the past 18 years I have known him (Bryant) to be considerate, courteous and dependable,” he said.

“I was stunned by this conviction; this is not the man I have known.”

Mr Day, 50, said he was very disappointed with the sentence.

“I don’t think justice has yet been fully served in this case,” he said.

“It is as though because he has led an unblemished life since then that somehow makes up for it.

“But I do still want to encourage anybody who has experience this sort of thing to come forward. It can’t be left alone.

“I also want to thank the police and the Crown Prosecution Service who did a sterling job, and to say that I think this incident has no bearing on the fire service itself.”

Bryant, of Grove Road East, Christchurch, still denies his guilt. He was also ordered to sign the Sex Offenders Register for life.

DURING the sentencing hearing the court heard evidence that Bryant’s accomplice, Mr Goodman, had a prior conviction for a sexual crime against children.

Prosecutor Rob Griffiths said Goodman had been convicted of inappropriately touching boys aged 13-15 through their clothes while “play-fighting”, also at Christchurch Fire Station.

He said Goodman was fined for the offence, which took place some years after the rape.

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6:21pm Fri 24 Jan 14

TheBogeyMan says...

I doubt he was guilty.
I doubt he was guilty. TheBogeyMan
  • Score: -56

6:30pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.
They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: -61

6:39pm Fri 24 Jan 14

MCAME1989 says...

This is so stupid!
Why leave it all theses years then come forward!
This is so stupid! Why leave it all theses years then come forward! MCAME1989
  • Score: -59

6:57pm Fri 24 Jan 14

BournemouthMum says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.
Completely agree. These cases are very difficult to prove after so many years, and apart from cases where there is very strong evidence (i.e. independent witnesses and idential crimes reported by different individuals) there's always doubt as to whether the offences actually took place. I also can't help wondering what purpose it serves to jail an old person and disrupt their life for something that 'may' have happened so long ago. Even if David Bryant is guilty, he has led an exemplary life since and I find it strange that someone with a propensity for sexual crime hasn't committed at least one other such crime in all these years. There should definitely be a time limit in which victims have to report the crime.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.[/p][/quote]Completely agree. These cases are very difficult to prove after so many years, and apart from cases where there is very strong evidence (i.e. independent witnesses and idential crimes reported by different individuals) there's always doubt as to whether the offences actually took place. I also can't help wondering what purpose it serves to jail an old person and disrupt their life for something that 'may' have happened so long ago. Even if David Bryant is guilty, he has led an exemplary life since and I find it strange that someone with a propensity for sexual crime hasn't committed at least one other such crime in all these years. There should definitely be a time limit in which victims have to report the crime. BournemouthMum
  • Score: -57

7:12pm Fri 24 Jan 14

nothingtofear says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.
Completely agree. These cases are very difficult to prove after so many years, and apart from cases where there is very strong evidence (i.e. independent witnesses and idential crimes reported by different individuals) there's always doubt as to whether the offences actually took place. I also can't help wondering what purpose it serves to jail an old person and disrupt their life for something that 'may' have happened so long ago. Even if David Bryant is guilty, he has led an exemplary life since and I find it strange that someone with a propensity for sexual crime hasn't committed at least one other such crime in all these years. There should definitely be a time limit in which victims have to report the crime.
You are right, it is very unusual for someone to commit a sex crime and never go on to re-offend as comprehensive research into this has shown that sex offenders keep on offending time after time until caught.

On another note, Judge Samuel Wiggs said that he was jailing David Bryant for the least possible time allowed. Doesn't he do that with all the cases that he tries?
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.[/p][/quote]Completely agree. These cases are very difficult to prove after so many years, and apart from cases where there is very strong evidence (i.e. independent witnesses and idential crimes reported by different individuals) there's always doubt as to whether the offences actually took place. I also can't help wondering what purpose it serves to jail an old person and disrupt their life for something that 'may' have happened so long ago. Even if David Bryant is guilty, he has led an exemplary life since and I find it strange that someone with a propensity for sexual crime hasn't committed at least one other such crime in all these years. There should definitely be a time limit in which victims have to report the crime.[/p][/quote]You are right, it is very unusual for someone to commit a sex crime and never go on to re-offend as comprehensive research into this has shown that sex offenders keep on offending time after time until caught. On another note, Judge Samuel Wiggs said that he was jailing David Bryant for the least possible time allowed. Doesn't he do that with all the cases that he tries? nothingtofear
  • Score: -29

7:17pm Fri 24 Jan 14

denisjames says...

I still believe this to be a bizarre and unbelievable story knowing the man as I do. I have been in juries on similar cases and we all agreed that without conclusive evidence we couldn't convict. After 40 years where was the evidence I wonder. I hope the jury didn't make a mistake.
I still believe this to be a bizarre and unbelievable story knowing the man as I do. I have been in juries on similar cases and we all agreed that without conclusive evidence we couldn't convict. After 40 years where was the evidence I wonder. I hope the jury didn't make a mistake. denisjames
  • Score: -28

7:28pm Fri 24 Jan 14

nickynoodah says...

Dirty b******
should of got 10years
is he lucky or what
Sack sam wiggs
for being so lenient
Dirty b****** should of got 10years is he lucky or what Sack sam wiggs for being so lenient nickynoodah
  • Score: 1

7:41pm Fri 24 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

denisjames wrote:
I still believe this to be a bizarre and unbelievable story knowing the man as I do. I have been in juries on similar cases and we all agreed that without conclusive evidence we couldn't convict. After 40 years where was the evidence I wonder. I hope the jury didn't make a mistake.
How many people have served on more than one jury especial cases so similar ?????
[quote][p][bold]denisjames[/bold] wrote: I still believe this to be a bizarre and unbelievable story knowing the man as I do. I have been in juries on similar cases and we all agreed that without conclusive evidence we couldn't convict. After 40 years where was the evidence I wonder. I hope the jury didn't make a mistake.[/p][/quote]How many people have served on more than one jury especial cases so similar ????? kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 10

7:45pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Johns66 says...

so let me get this right am i to understand that the comments RE historic crimes that you people think that if crimes arnt reported within 6 months that they then become invalid and void , there was obviously resons that this boy didnt come forward at the time what they are i think only he would know that , with regard to the sentence i believe that the book says between 8 to 13 yrs for this crime so how this man arrived at 6 yrs god only knows , it seems to me that at this time beacuse the fireman has led a normal life since something we all have done he is now allowed a very leen sentence indeed
so let me get this right am i to understand that the comments RE historic crimes that you people think that if crimes arnt reported within 6 months that they then become invalid and void , there was obviously resons that this boy didnt come forward at the time what they are i think only he would know that , with regard to the sentence i believe that the book says between 8 to 13 yrs for this crime so how this man arrived at 6 yrs god only knows , it seems to me that at this time beacuse the fireman has led a normal life since something we all have done he is now allowed a very leen sentence indeed Johns66
  • Score: 47

7:55pm Fri 24 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

MCAME1989 wrote:
This is so stupid!
Why leave it all theses years then come forward!
Perhaps the kid was under privileged an vulnerable
[quote][p][bold]MCAME1989[/bold] wrote: This is so stupid! Why leave it all theses years then come forward![/p][/quote]Perhaps the kid was under privileged an vulnerable kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 27

8:02pm Fri 24 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

According to most on here ,it,s ok to rape your child and just hope they won,t say anything for a few years .you must have very dodgy hard drives .standby for a visit,I,m with Nicky do Dan
According to most on here ,it,s ok to rape your child and just hope they won,t say anything for a few years .you must have very dodgy hard drives .standby for a visit,I,m with Nicky do Dan kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 58

8:08pm Fri 24 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

This is more like a kiddie folders support group
This is more like a kiddie folders support group kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 7

8:19pm Fri 24 Jan 14

suzanne62 says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.
jesus, obviously you have some serious skeletons in your cupboard, u must be getting scared.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.[/p][/quote]jesus, obviously you have some serious skeletons in your cupboard, u must be getting scared. suzanne62
  • Score: 53

8:31pm Fri 24 Jan 14

suzanne62 says...

have you people on here who think it is ok to rape a child , and then put a time limit on the time these people take to report this terrible crime can you people hear yourselves ask yourself this if that was your child and they coudnt talk to you WOULD YOU IMPOSE A TIME LIMIT ???
have you people on here who think it is ok to rape a child , and then put a time limit on the time these people take to report this terrible crime can you people hear yourselves ask yourself this if that was your child and they coudnt talk to you WOULD YOU IMPOSE A TIME LIMIT ??? suzanne62
  • Score: 51

8:34pm Fri 24 Jan 14

suzanne62 says...

nickynoodah wrote:
Dirty b******
should of got 10years
is he lucky or what
Sack sam wiggs
for being so lenient
im with you on this
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Dirty b****** should of got 10years is he lucky or what Sack sam wiggs for being so lenient[/p][/quote]im with you on this suzanne62
  • Score: 10

8:37pm Fri 24 Jan 14

nickynoodah says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
According to most on here ,it,s ok to rape your child and just hope they won,t say anything for a few years .you must have very dodgy hard drives .standby for a visit,I,m with Nicky do Dan
That's so sweet of you George
we could be BFF ..
best friends forever
this is my lucky year.
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: According to most on here ,it,s ok to rape your child and just hope they won,t say anything for a few years .you must have very dodgy hard drives .standby for a visit,I,m with Nicky do Dan[/p][/quote]That's so sweet of you George we could be BFF .. best friends forever this is my lucky year. nickynoodah
  • Score: -21

8:44pm Fri 24 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

nickynoodah wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
According to most on here ,it,s ok to rape your child and just hope they won,t say anything for a few years .you must have very dodgy hard drives .standby for a visit,I,m with Nicky do Dan
That's so sweet of you George
we could be BFF ..
best friends forever
this is my lucky year.
Shall we start a family ?
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: According to most on here ,it,s ok to rape your child and just hope they won,t say anything for a few years .you must have very dodgy hard drives .standby for a visit,I,m with Nicky do Dan[/p][/quote]That's so sweet of you George we could be BFF .. best friends forever this is my lucky year.[/p][/quote]Shall we start a family ? kalebmoledirt
  • Score: -16

8:46pm Fri 24 Jan 14

suzanne62 says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
MCAME1989 wrote:
This is so stupid!
Why leave it all theses years then come forward!
Perhaps the kid was under privileged an vulnerable
Ok, no more hiding behind an internet comment page, say who you are, show your faces and be as brave as the poor man this happened too. This will be extremely interesting because all people that think that rape hasnt happened unless you have video evidence and witnesses need serious help or investigating.
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MCAME1989[/bold] wrote: This is so stupid! Why leave it all theses years then come forward![/p][/quote]Perhaps the kid was under privileged an vulnerable[/p][/quote]Ok, no more hiding behind an internet comment page, say who you are, show your faces and be as brave as the poor man this happened too. This will be extremely interesting because all people that think that rape hasnt happened unless you have video evidence and witnesses need serious help or investigating. suzanne62
  • Score: 24

8:50pm Fri 24 Jan 14

suzanne62 says...

nickynoodah wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
According to most on here ,it,s ok to rape your child and just hope they won,t say anything for a few years .you must have very dodgy hard drives .standby for a visit,I,m with Nicky do Dan
That's so sweet of you George
we could be BFF ..
best friends forever
this is my lucky year.
me too x x
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: According to most on here ,it,s ok to rape your child and just hope they won,t say anything for a few years .you must have very dodgy hard drives .standby for a visit,I,m with Nicky do Dan[/p][/quote]That's so sweet of you George we could be BFF .. best friends forever this is my lucky year.[/p][/quote]me too x x suzanne62
  • Score: -14

8:58pm Fri 24 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

suzanne62 wrote:
nickynoodah wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
According to most on here ,it,s ok to rape your child and just hope they won,t say anything for a few years .you must have very dodgy hard drives .standby for a visit,I,m with Nicky do Dan
That's so sweet of you George
we could be BFF ..
best friends forever
this is my lucky year.
me too x x
Sure we will meet at the commenters BBQ
[quote][p][bold]suzanne62[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: According to most on here ,it,s ok to rape your child and just hope they won,t say anything for a few years .you must have very dodgy hard drives .standby for a visit,I,m with Nicky do Dan[/p][/quote]That's so sweet of you George we could be BFF .. best friends forever this is my lucky year.[/p][/quote]me too x x[/p][/quote]Sure we will meet at the commenters BBQ kalebmoledirt
  • Score: -9

9:00pm Fri 24 Jan 14

suzanne62 says...

suzanne62 wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
MCAME1989 wrote:
This is so stupid!
Why leave it all theses years then come forward!
Perhaps the kid was under privileged an vulnerable
Ok, no more hiding behind an internet comment page, say who you are, show your faces and be as brave as the poor man this happened too. This will be extremely interesting because all people that think that rape hasnt happened unless you have video evidence and witnesses need serious help or investigating.
can i ask was any of you people in court today just curious
[quote][p][bold]suzanne62[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MCAME1989[/bold] wrote: This is so stupid! Why leave it all theses years then come forward![/p][/quote]Perhaps the kid was under privileged an vulnerable[/p][/quote]Ok, no more hiding behind an internet comment page, say who you are, show your faces and be as brave as the poor man this happened too. This will be extremely interesting because all people that think that rape hasnt happened unless you have video evidence and witnesses need serious help or investigating.[/p][/quote]can i ask was any of you people in court today just curious suzanne62
  • Score: -1

9:02pm Fri 24 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

suzanne62 wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.
jesus, obviously you have some serious skeletons in your cupboard, u must be getting scared.
SIR Richard head your card is marked
[quote][p][bold]suzanne62[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.[/p][/quote]jesus, obviously you have some serious skeletons in your cupboard, u must be getting scared.[/p][/quote]SIR Richard head your card is marked kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 5

9:10pm Fri 24 Jan 14

suzanne62 says...

TheBogeyMan wrote:
I doubt he was guilty.
think your full of the brown smelly stuff
[quote][p][bold]TheBogeyMan[/bold] wrote: I doubt he was guilty.[/p][/quote]think your full of the brown smelly stuff suzanne62
  • Score: 8

9:17pm Fri 24 Jan 14

shaft says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.
There are many reasons why someone may not have the courage to report a crime straight away being scared and the shame to name only a couple. Your comments are sad and VULGAR. A grow man was found guilty of raping a child and should have received 20 years. Think on your comments then crawl back from where you came from. Very sad indeed.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.[/p][/quote]There are many reasons why someone may not have the courage to report a crime straight away being scared and the shame to name only a couple. Your comments are sad and VULGAR. A grow man was found guilty of raping a child and should have received 20 years. Think on your comments then crawl back from where you came from. Very sad indeed. shaft
  • Score: 27

9:20pm Fri 24 Jan 14

suzanne62 says...

shaft wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.
There are many reasons why someone may not have the courage to report a crime straight away being scared and the shame to name only a couple. Your comments are sad and VULGAR. A grow man was found guilty of raping a child and should have received 20 years. Think on your comments then crawl back from where you came from. Very sad indeed.
so well said good on ya fella
[quote][p][bold]shaft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.[/p][/quote]There are many reasons why someone may not have the courage to report a crime straight away being scared and the shame to name only a couple. Your comments are sad and VULGAR. A grow man was found guilty of raping a child and should have received 20 years. Think on your comments then crawl back from where you came from. Very sad indeed.[/p][/quote]so well said good on ya fella suzanne62
  • Score: 17

10:29pm Fri 24 Jan 14

suzanne62 says...

no more comments how strange ???
no more comments how strange ??? suzanne62
  • Score: -2

11:00pm Fri 24 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.
Not ban all, but perhaps the older ones where even an onlooker can so clearly see the £signs in the complainants eyes and or the PR promotional opportunities being so unpleasantly grasped by the Media and the Authorities - Yes!
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.[/p][/quote]Not ban all, but perhaps the older ones where even an onlooker can so clearly see the £signs in the complainants eyes and or the PR promotional opportunities being so unpleasantly grasped by the Media and the Authorities - Yes! muscliffman
  • Score: -37

11:01pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Yankee1 says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
denisjames wrote:
I still believe this to be a bizarre and unbelievable story knowing the man as I do. I have been in juries on similar cases and we all agreed that without conclusive evidence we couldn't convict. After 40 years where was the evidence I wonder. I hope the jury didn't make a mistake.
How many people have served on more than one jury especial cases so similar ?????
Usually on jury selection, lawyers dispose those potential jurors who have served on similar cases. Too much baggage.
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]denisjames[/bold] wrote: I still believe this to be a bizarre and unbelievable story knowing the man as I do. I have been in juries on similar cases and we all agreed that without conclusive evidence we couldn't convict. After 40 years where was the evidence I wonder. I hope the jury didn't make a mistake.[/p][/quote]How many people have served on more than one jury especial cases so similar ?????[/p][/quote]Usually on jury selection, lawyers dispose those potential jurors who have served on similar cases. Too much baggage. Yankee1
  • Score: 5

11:06pm Fri 24 Jan 14

suzanne62 says...

muscliffman wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.
Not ban all, but perhaps the older ones where even an onlooker can so clearly see the £signs in the complainants eyes and or the PR promotional opportunities being so unpleasantly grasped by the Media and the Authorities - Yes!
so are you saying this was done for monitary gain
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.[/p][/quote]Not ban all, but perhaps the older ones where even an onlooker can so clearly see the £signs in the complainants eyes and or the PR promotional opportunities being so unpleasantly grasped by the Media and the Authorities - Yes![/p][/quote]so are you saying this was done for monitary gain suzanne62
  • Score: 8

11:13pm Fri 24 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

shaft wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.
There are many reasons why someone may not have the courage to report a crime straight away being scared and the shame to name only a couple. Your comments are sad and VULGAR. A grow man was found guilty of raping a child and should have received 20 years. Think on your comments then crawl back from where you came from. Very sad indeed.
Absolutely agree with your first point, provided the motivation to finally come forward is confined to obtaining justice.
[quote][p][bold]shaft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.[/p][/quote]There are many reasons why someone may not have the courage to report a crime straight away being scared and the shame to name only a couple. Your comments are sad and VULGAR. A grow man was found guilty of raping a child and should have received 20 years. Think on your comments then crawl back from where you came from. Very sad indeed.[/p][/quote]Absolutely agree with your first point, provided the motivation to finally come forward is confined to obtaining justice. muscliffman
  • Score: -22

11:23pm Fri 24 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

suzanne62 wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.
Not ban all, but perhaps the older ones where even an onlooker can so clearly see the £signs in the complainants eyes and or the PR promotional opportunities being so unpleasantly grasped by the Media and the Authorities - Yes!
so are you saying this was done for monitary gain
No - quite obviously not, I did not even mention this specific case.
[quote][p][bold]suzanne62[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.[/p][/quote]Not ban all, but perhaps the older ones where even an onlooker can so clearly see the £signs in the complainants eyes and or the PR promotional opportunities being so unpleasantly grasped by the Media and the Authorities - Yes![/p][/quote]so are you saying this was done for monitary gain[/p][/quote]No - quite obviously not, I did not even mention this specific case. muscliffman
  • Score: -19

12:14am Sat 25 Jan 14

suzanne62 says...

muscliffman wrote:
suzanne62 wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.
Not ban all, but perhaps the older ones where even an onlooker can so clearly see the £signs in the complainants eyes and or the PR promotional opportunities being so unpleasantly grasped by the Media and the Authorities - Yes!
so are you saying this was done for monitary gain
No - quite obviously not, I did not even mention this specific case.
SORRY FOR THE CAPS. I AM DANS PARTNER, MY ONLY WISH IS THAT BRYANT SAID SORRY WHEN he was contacted. Dan would of dropped the charges and that would of been the end of matter, My Dan is the most amazing loving and caring person you would ever come across. ok, he is not a fireman but the amount he has done in his lifetime to help those that have been suffering is speechless. Dan doesn't want recognition despite many people putting him forward for what ever award is on offer. Dan would give you his last organ to save your life and he would demand his name not be mentioned. Dan is someone you will never meet in a million years because he is so special. I have no idea to express how amazing this guy is and his need to continue his life in peace. He has invested every penny he owns in saving animals that face slaughter, Both Dan and myself are currently nursing piglets whose mothers wanted to eat them. Dan is troubled but he has made sure that his children would never ever in a million years go through what he did. Dan is a stepfather to three of my children, all of whom i had to keep the sentencing date a secret to them because i know they would have wanted to make their voices heard. I understand why Dan didnt say anything at the time. His dad would have slaughtered both bryant and goodman in open public and he would not have given a two monkeys about the fall out. Dans mum had cancer, the poor boy was protecting her. I want to meet you all who support dave byrant.
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzanne62[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.[/p][/quote]Not ban all, but perhaps the older ones where even an onlooker can so clearly see the £signs in the complainants eyes and or the PR promotional opportunities being so unpleasantly grasped by the Media and the Authorities - Yes![/p][/quote]so are you saying this was done for monitary gain[/p][/quote]No - quite obviously not, I did not even mention this specific case.[/p][/quote]SORRY FOR THE CAPS. I AM DANS PARTNER, MY ONLY WISH IS THAT BRYANT SAID SORRY WHEN he was contacted. Dan would of dropped the charges and that would of been the end of matter, My Dan is the most amazing loving and caring person you would ever come across. ok, he is not a fireman but the amount he has done in his lifetime to help those that have been suffering is speechless. Dan doesn't want recognition despite many people putting him forward for what ever award is on offer. Dan would give you his last organ to save your life and he would demand his name not be mentioned. Dan is someone you will never meet in a million years because he is so special. I have no idea to express how amazing this guy is and his need to continue his life in peace. He has invested every penny he owns in saving animals that face slaughter, Both Dan and myself are currently nursing piglets whose mothers wanted to eat them. Dan is troubled but he has made sure that his children would never ever in a million years go through what he did. Dan is a stepfather to three of my children, all of whom i had to keep the sentencing date a secret to them because i know they would have wanted to make their voices heard. I understand why Dan didnt say anything at the time. His dad would have slaughtered both bryant and goodman in open public and he would not have given a two monkeys about the fall out. Dans mum had cancer, the poor boy was protecting her. I want to meet you all who support dave byrant. suzanne62
  • Score: 41

6:27am Sat 25 Jan 14

portia6 says...

suzanne62 wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
suzanne62 wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.
Not ban all, but perhaps the older ones where even an onlooker can so clearly see the £signs in the complainants eyes and or the PR promotional opportunities being so unpleasantly grasped by the Media and the Authorities - Yes!
so are you saying this was done for monitary gain
No - quite obviously not, I did not even mention this specific case.
SORRY FOR THE CAPS. I AM DANS PARTNER, MY ONLY WISH IS THAT BRYANT SAID SORRY WHEN he was contacted. Dan would of dropped the charges and that would of been the end of matter, My Dan is the most amazing loving and caring person you would ever come across. ok, he is not a fireman but the amount he has done in his lifetime to help those that have been suffering is speechless. Dan doesn't want recognition despite many people putting him forward for what ever award is on offer. Dan would give you his last organ to save your life and he would demand his name not be mentioned. Dan is someone you will never meet in a million years because he is so special. I have no idea to express how amazing this guy is and his need to continue his life in peace. He has invested every penny he owns in saving animals that face slaughter, Both Dan and myself are currently nursing piglets whose mothers wanted to eat them. Dan is troubled but he has made sure that his children would never ever in a million years go through what he did. Dan is a stepfather to three of my children, all of whom i had to keep the sentencing date a secret to them because i know they would have wanted to make their voices heard. I understand why Dan didnt say anything at the time. His dad would have slaughtered both bryant and goodman in open public and he would not have given a two monkeys about the fall out. Dans mum had cancer, the poor boy was protecting her. I want to meet you all who support dave byrant.
How brave of Dan to confront his disgusting attacker Dave Bryant, words cannot
comprehend anyone being sympathetic to his abusers. So many cases go
unreported because of fear and shame hope you and your family find closure.
[quote][p][bold]suzanne62[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzanne62[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.[/p][/quote]Not ban all, but perhaps the older ones where even an onlooker can so clearly see the £signs in the complainants eyes and or the PR promotional opportunities being so unpleasantly grasped by the Media and the Authorities - Yes![/p][/quote]so are you saying this was done for monitary gain[/p][/quote]No - quite obviously not, I did not even mention this specific case.[/p][/quote]SORRY FOR THE CAPS. I AM DANS PARTNER, MY ONLY WISH IS THAT BRYANT SAID SORRY WHEN he was contacted. Dan would of dropped the charges and that would of been the end of matter, My Dan is the most amazing loving and caring person you would ever come across. ok, he is not a fireman but the amount he has done in his lifetime to help those that have been suffering is speechless. Dan doesn't want recognition despite many people putting him forward for what ever award is on offer. Dan would give you his last organ to save your life and he would demand his name not be mentioned. Dan is someone you will never meet in a million years because he is so special. I have no idea to express how amazing this guy is and his need to continue his life in peace. He has invested every penny he owns in saving animals that face slaughter, Both Dan and myself are currently nursing piglets whose mothers wanted to eat them. Dan is troubled but he has made sure that his children would never ever in a million years go through what he did. Dan is a stepfather to three of my children, all of whom i had to keep the sentencing date a secret to them because i know they would have wanted to make their voices heard. I understand why Dan didnt say anything at the time. His dad would have slaughtered both bryant and goodman in open public and he would not have given a two monkeys about the fall out. Dans mum had cancer, the poor boy was protecting her. I want to meet you all who support dave byrant.[/p][/quote]How brave of Dan to confront his disgusting attacker Dave Bryant, words cannot comprehend anyone being sympathetic to his abusers. So many cases go unreported because of fear and shame hope you and your family find closure. portia6
  • Score: 18

7:17am Sat 25 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.
Think the police will be interested in your very dubious views on the brutal gang rape of a child.I know the data protection act won,t save you.pack your bags .And be prepared for your knighthood to go your be just be plain grubby Richard Head
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.[/p][/quote]Think the police will be interested in your very dubious views on the brutal gang rape of a child.I know the data protection act won,t save you.pack your bags .And be prepared for your knighthood to go your be just be plain grubby Richard Head kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 17

8:05am Sat 25 Jan 14

itsneverblackorwhite says...

History has taught us that child abusers rarely admit their guilt, and if you have committed a serious crime such as this then you should be brought to justice regardless of when the crime was perpetrated. The fact this person has done good things since the attack is admirable however is this a reason for a reduced sentence? Judge Samuel Wiggs previous judgements on child sex abuse cases and the sentences he has given is cause for concern and surely it is time some of his cases are reviewed for undue leniency.
History has taught us that child abusers rarely admit their guilt, and if you have committed a serious crime such as this then you should be brought to justice regardless of when the crime was perpetrated. The fact this person has done good things since the attack is admirable however is this a reason for a reduced sentence? Judge Samuel Wiggs previous judgements on child sex abuse cases and the sentences he has given is cause for concern and surely it is time some of his cases are reviewed for undue leniency. itsneverblackorwhite
  • Score: 14

11:04am Sat 25 Jan 14

pete woodley says...

David bryant is not the nice guy some are making him out to be,he is very arrogant and bullying.
David bryant is not the nice guy some are making him out to be,he is very arrogant and bullying. pete woodley
  • Score: 12

11:34am Sat 25 Jan 14

Lucy Lastick says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.
There used to be a statute of limitations of one year and a day but Blair's government removed thelimit.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.[/p][/quote]There used to be a statute of limitations of one year and a day but Blair's government removed thelimit. Lucy Lastick
  • Score: -7

11:35am Sat 25 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

suzanne62 wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
suzanne62 wrote:
muscliffman wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.
Not ban all, but perhaps the older ones where even an onlooker can so clearly see the £signs in the complainants eyes and or the PR promotional opportunities being so unpleasantly grasped by the Media and the Authorities - Yes!
so are you saying this was done for monitary gain
No - quite obviously not, I did not even mention this specific case.
SORRY FOR THE CAPS. I AM DANS PARTNER, MY ONLY WISH IS THAT BRYANT SAID SORRY WHEN he was contacted. Dan would of dropped the charges and that would of been the end of matter, My Dan is the most amazing loving and caring person you would ever come across. ok, he is not a fireman but the amount he has done in his lifetime to help those that have been suffering is speechless. Dan doesn't want recognition despite many people putting him forward for what ever award is on offer. Dan would give you his last organ to save your life and he would demand his name not be mentioned. Dan is someone you will never meet in a million years because he is so special. I have no idea to express how amazing this guy is and his need to continue his life in peace. He has invested every penny he owns in saving animals that face slaughter, Both Dan and myself are currently nursing piglets whose mothers wanted to eat them. Dan is troubled but he has made sure that his children would never ever in a million years go through what he did. Dan is a stepfather to three of my children, all of whom i had to keep the sentencing date a secret to them because i know they would have wanted to make their voices heard. I understand why Dan didnt say anything at the time. His dad would have slaughtered both bryant and goodman in open public and he would not have given a two monkeys about the fall out. Dans mum had cancer, the poor boy was protecting her. I want to meet you all who support dave byrant.
I unreservedly admire what your partner did in the circumstances and I sincerely hope the final conclusion of this legal case allows you all closure. Perhaps you misunderstand the point I was/am trying to make because I am not (unlike others) for one second seeking to defend the convicted criminal in this instance. Victims like your partner deserve to be heard whenever they are ready or able to speak and the opportunity arises for them to seek justice - I did not actually suggest otherwise.

But unlike this case there can be no denying that a media frenzy often encouraged by those who should know better (E.G. media pre-arrest tip offs) has developed around some older historic cases of abuse where the accused is either very wealthy and/or a celebrity. We do already know this has encouraged some compensation seeking and story selling, anonymous opportunists to come forward with unfounded allegations - not least because some quite high profile media reported 'abuse' cases have already been aborted without charge/s, or been found in the defendants favour in a Court case.

If people regularly find that those accused of historic abuse are being cleared in these 'celebrity' cases because the accuser is found to have been motivated for reasons which did not remotely include seeking proper justice it will undoubtedly adversely impact on the ability of the perfectly genuine cases (like this one) to do so. That is my principle concern and why I believe more caution needs to be shown before our Authorities unquestionably and publicly advance SOME of these potentially higher profile historic allegations - I do hope this clarifies.
[quote][p][bold]suzanne62[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]suzanne62[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.[/p][/quote]Not ban all, but perhaps the older ones where even an onlooker can so clearly see the £signs in the complainants eyes and or the PR promotional opportunities being so unpleasantly grasped by the Media and the Authorities - Yes![/p][/quote]so are you saying this was done for monitary gain[/p][/quote]No - quite obviously not, I did not even mention this specific case.[/p][/quote]SORRY FOR THE CAPS. I AM DANS PARTNER, MY ONLY WISH IS THAT BRYANT SAID SORRY WHEN he was contacted. Dan would of dropped the charges and that would of been the end of matter, My Dan is the most amazing loving and caring person you would ever come across. ok, he is not a fireman but the amount he has done in his lifetime to help those that have been suffering is speechless. Dan doesn't want recognition despite many people putting him forward for what ever award is on offer. Dan would give you his last organ to save your life and he would demand his name not be mentioned. Dan is someone you will never meet in a million years because he is so special. I have no idea to express how amazing this guy is and his need to continue his life in peace. He has invested every penny he owns in saving animals that face slaughter, Both Dan and myself are currently nursing piglets whose mothers wanted to eat them. Dan is troubled but he has made sure that his children would never ever in a million years go through what he did. Dan is a stepfather to three of my children, all of whom i had to keep the sentencing date a secret to them because i know they would have wanted to make their voices heard. I understand why Dan didnt say anything at the time. His dad would have slaughtered both bryant and goodman in open public and he would not have given a two monkeys about the fall out. Dans mum had cancer, the poor boy was protecting her. I want to meet you all who support dave byrant.[/p][/quote]I unreservedly admire what your partner did in the circumstances and I sincerely hope the final conclusion of this legal case allows you all closure. Perhaps you misunderstand the point I was/am trying to make because I am not (unlike others) for one second seeking to defend the convicted criminal in this instance. Victims like your partner deserve to be heard whenever they are ready or able to speak and the opportunity arises for them to seek justice - I did not actually suggest otherwise. But unlike this case there can be no denying that a media frenzy often encouraged by those who should know better (E.G. media pre-arrest tip offs) has developed around some older historic cases of abuse where the accused is either very wealthy and/or a celebrity. We do already know this has encouraged some compensation seeking and story selling, anonymous opportunists to come forward with unfounded allegations - not least because some quite high profile media reported 'abuse' cases have already been aborted without charge/s, or been found in the defendants favour in a Court case. If people regularly find that those accused of historic abuse are being cleared in these 'celebrity' cases because the accuser is found to have been motivated for reasons which did not remotely include seeking proper justice it will undoubtedly adversely impact on the ability of the perfectly genuine cases (like this one) to do so. That is my principle concern and why I believe more caution needs to be shown before our Authorities unquestionably and publicly advance SOME of these potentially higher profile historic allegations - I do hope this clarifies. muscliffman
  • Score: 0

11:50am Sat 25 Jan 14

muscliffman says...

muscliffman wrote:
shaft wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.
There are many reasons why someone may not have the courage to report a crime straight away being scared and the shame to name only a couple. Your comments are sad and VULGAR. A grow man was found guilty of raping a child and should have received 20 years. Think on your comments then crawl back from where you came from. Very sad indeed.
Absolutely agree with your first point, provided the motivation to finally come forward is confined to obtaining justice.
At the moment 18 (-) people do not apparently agree that the only motivation for reporting historic abuse like this should be to obtain justice.

So please do tell us all what motive/s you folk believe should be behind the reporting of such dreadful crimes? Because this would be most fascinating to know!
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.[/p][/quote]There are many reasons why someone may not have the courage to report a crime straight away being scared and the shame to name only a couple. Your comments are sad and VULGAR. A grow man was found guilty of raping a child and should have received 20 years. Think on your comments then crawl back from where you came from. Very sad indeed.[/p][/quote]Absolutely agree with your first point, provided the motivation to finally come forward is confined to obtaining justice.[/p][/quote]At the moment 18 (-) people do not apparently agree that the only motivation for reporting historic abuse like this should be to obtain justice. So please do tell us all what motive/s you folk believe should be behind the reporting of such dreadful crimes? Because this would be most fascinating to know! muscliffman
  • Score: -8

1:38pm Sat 25 Jan 14

poolebabe says...

If there is a starting point for sentencing, then what possible reason is there for almost halving that? His public duty does not make up for what he did to a child. It makes it worse, because he abused his position of trust, and his life was a facade. Shame his public duty didn't not extend to at least saying sorry to his victim, who has had to live with the consequences for the past 40 years.
If there is a starting point for sentencing, then what possible reason is there for almost halving that? His public duty does not make up for what he did to a child. It makes it worse, because he abused his position of trust, and his life was a facade. Shame his public duty didn't not extend to at least saying sorry to his victim, who has had to live with the consequences for the past 40 years. poolebabe
  • Score: 12

1:48pm Sat 25 Jan 14

nosuchluck54 says...

suzanne62 wrote:
no more comments how strange ???
As you can see there are more, but suzanne62 do not take what some say on face value, they are called serial trolls who thrive on this sort of story and just out to seek attention so best ignore them,although they wont go away
[quote][p][bold]suzanne62[/bold] wrote: no more comments how strange ???[/p][/quote]As you can see there are more, but suzanne62 do not take what some say on face value, they are called serial trolls who thrive on this sort of story and just out to seek attention so best ignore them,although they wont go away nosuchluck54
  • Score: 21

1:51pm Sat 25 Jan 14

shifty035 says...

suzanne62 wrote:
have you people on here who think it is ok to rape a child , and then put a time limit on the time these people take to report this terrible crime can you people hear yourselves ask yourself this if that was your child and they coudnt talk to you WOULD YOU IMPOSE A TIME LIMIT ???
yeah life for the dirty sick people that does it.... if he did it he deserves more than 6 years he should have his bits cut off so he cant do it again and how the hell can people write things bout haveing a time limit on when they **** forward the only sad thing bout this is the other bloke died he should have got a hard sentence as well,,, people that are supporting him on here need to go see a shrink u r some way disturbed to think that he shouldnt have got time for this in fact it should have benn MORE
[quote][p][bold]suzanne62[/bold] wrote: have you people on here who think it is ok to rape a child , and then put a time limit on the time these people take to report this terrible crime can you people hear yourselves ask yourself this if that was your child and they coudnt talk to you WOULD YOU IMPOSE A TIME LIMIT ???[/p][/quote]yeah life for the dirty sick people that does it.... if he did it he deserves more than 6 years he should have his bits cut off so he cant do it again and how the hell can people write things bout haveing a time limit on when they **** forward the only sad thing bout this is the other bloke died he should have got a hard sentence as well,,, people that are supporting him on here need to go see a shrink u r some way disturbed to think that he shouldnt have got time for this in fact it should have benn MORE shifty035
  • Score: 20

2:35pm Sat 25 Jan 14

kalebmoledirt says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.
Think the police will be interested in your very dubious views on the brutal gang rape of a child.I know the data protection act won,t save you.pack your bags .And be prepared for your knighthood to go your be just be plain grubby Richard Head
Will some closer get in touch with St Edmunds Campion church where Sir beachhead attends every Sunday mass and make them aware he,s probably grooming the choir boys for what he believes is a harmless relationship
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.[/p][/quote]Think the police will be interested in your very dubious views on the brutal gang rape of a child.I know the data protection act won,t save you.pack your bags .And be prepared for your knighthood to go your be just be plain grubby Richard Head[/p][/quote]Will some closer get in touch with St Edmunds Campion church where Sir beachhead attends every Sunday mass and make them aware he,s probably grooming the choir boys for what he believes is a harmless relationship kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 0

3:20pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

So how much compensation is the bloke going to be claiming ?
So how much compensation is the bloke going to be claiming ? Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: -9

4:38pm Sat 25 Jan 14

pete woodley says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
So how much compensation is the bloke going to be claiming ?
You are obviously a sick man.ve3ry sick to make comments like that.No wonder you do not give your name.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: So how much compensation is the bloke going to be claiming ?[/p][/quote]You are obviously a sick man.ve3ry sick to make comments like that.No wonder you do not give your name. pete woodley
  • Score: 7

4:44pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Johns66 says...

Well after reading all of your comments, some very good and constructive and some extremely stupid I think after almost 38 years, this man has had this in his mind about the dreadful events that surrounding as a young 13 year old boy. I think that the legal system is good just the way it is and allowing historic crimes to be investigated and brought to justice. The young man in question has done a lot with his life although had this event not had taken place he could of achieved a lot more. I understand he now runs an animal sanctuary for unwanted and ill treated animals as well as looking after x drinkers and drug abusers. So on the whole I would say he has used his life much more meaningful than Bryant ever did, as Bryant life was built on a web of lies, deceit, and mistrust. The sentence handed down was very lenient bearing in mind the severity of the crime. It is a shame that Goodman died having effectively got away with the rape however, as it was told in court, he had been convicted twice before of sexual changes for which mrs bryant knew, these were also conducted in the firestation. This too me only cements the version of events. I told someone yesterday that i was going to comment on this page. They asked in what capacity, the simple truth is my name is Danny Day. There will not be any compensation claims for this and the fight against bryant is now finished. Having said that, Mr. Beach head if you feel you need to take his place with your snide comments then please be brave enough to identify who you are, or maybe your just a coward like the two firemen.
Well after reading all of your comments, some very good and constructive and some extremely stupid I think after almost 38 years, this man has had this in his mind about the dreadful events that surrounding as a young 13 year old boy. I think that the legal system is good just the way it is and allowing historic crimes to be investigated and brought to justice. The young man in question has done a lot with his life although had this event not had taken place he could of achieved a lot more. I understand he now runs an animal sanctuary for unwanted and ill treated animals as well as looking after x drinkers and drug abusers. So on the whole I would say he has used his life much more meaningful than Bryant ever did, as Bryant life was built on a web of lies, deceit, and mistrust. The sentence handed down was very lenient bearing in mind the severity of the crime. It is a shame that Goodman died having effectively got away with the rape however, as it was told in court, he had been convicted twice before of sexual changes for which mrs bryant knew, these were also conducted in the firestation. This too me only cements the version of events. I told someone yesterday that i was going to comment on this page. They asked in what capacity, the simple truth is my name is Danny Day. There will not be any compensation claims for this and the fight against bryant is now finished. Having said that, Mr. Beach head if you feel you need to take his place with your snide comments then please be brave enough to identify who you are, or maybe your just a coward like the two firemen. Johns66
  • Score: 21

6:58pm Sat 25 Jan 14

pete woodley says...

Well said Danny,I cannot believe the misguided ones who have supported Bryant,society is sick.All pals together.
Well said Danny,I cannot believe the misguided ones who have supported Bryant,society is sick.All pals together. pete woodley
  • Score: 9

7:41pm Sat 25 Jan 14

clerk69 says...

I am disgusted by the comments supporting Bryant . It's people with your attitude Beachyhead that stop victims coming forward in this situation. I would ask you to imagine how you would feel if you were in that situation but something makes me think you're incapable of empathy.
I am disgusted by the comments supporting Bryant . It's people with your attitude Beachyhead that stop victims coming forward in this situation. I would ask you to imagine how you would feel if you were in that situation but something makes me think you're incapable of empathy. clerk69
  • Score: 11

7:59pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Johns66 says...

pete woodley wrote:
Well said Danny,I cannot believe the misguided ones who have supported Bryant,society is sick.All pals together.
thanks pete for the support
[quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: Well said Danny,I cannot believe the misguided ones who have supported Bryant,society is sick.All pals together.[/p][/quote]thanks pete for the support Johns66
  • Score: 3

8:44pm Sat 25 Jan 14

shaft says...

Johns66 wrote:
pete woodley wrote:
Well said Danny,I cannot believe the misguided ones who have supported Bryant,society is sick.All pals together.
thanks pete for the support
Forever be strong
[quote][p][bold]Johns66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: Well said Danny,I cannot believe the misguided ones who have supported Bryant,society is sick.All pals together.[/p][/quote]thanks pete for the support[/p][/quote]Forever be strong shaft
  • Score: 4

9:19pm Sat 25 Jan 14

simcal says...

shaft wrote:
Johns66 wrote:
pete woodley wrote: Well said Danny,I cannot believe the misguided ones who have supported Bryant,society is sick.All pals together.
thanks pete for the support
Forever be strong
No, it's just you not liking people expressing a different view to yours. You should be the Pope, he is infallible too.
[quote][p][bold]shaft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Johns66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: Well said Danny,I cannot believe the misguided ones who have supported Bryant,society is sick.All pals together.[/p][/quote]thanks pete for the support[/p][/quote]Forever be strong[/p][/quote]No, it's just you not liking people expressing a different view to yours. You should be the Pope, he is infallible too. simcal
  • Score: -3

8:16am Sun 26 Jan 14

ctrewyou says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
So how much compensation is the bloke going to be claiming ?
How much money do you feel would make up for being raped as a child? A few thousand quid would obviously make it all better...
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: So how much compensation is the bloke going to be claiming ?[/p][/quote]How much money do you feel would make up for being raped as a child? A few thousand quid would obviously make it all better... ctrewyou
  • Score: 0

8:18am Sun 26 Jan 14

ctrewyou says...

simcal wrote:
shaft wrote:
Johns66 wrote:
pete woodley wrote: Well said Danny,I cannot believe the misguided ones who have supported Bryant,society is sick.All pals together.
thanks pete for the support
Forever be strong
No, it's just you not liking people expressing a different view to yours. You should be the Pope, he is infallible too.
You are of course very welcome to support a child rapist, that is your right. It is good to support friends, but if a friend of mine had raped a child, I perhaps would not be so public in my support for him.
[quote][p][bold]simcal[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]shaft[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Johns66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pete woodley[/bold] wrote: Well said Danny,I cannot believe the misguided ones who have supported Bryant,society is sick.All pals together.[/p][/quote]thanks pete for the support[/p][/quote]Forever be strong[/p][/quote]No, it's just you not liking people expressing a different view to yours. You should be the Pope, he is infallible too.[/p][/quote]You are of course very welcome to support a child rapist, that is your right. It is good to support friends, but if a friend of mine had raped a child, I perhaps would not be so public in my support for him. ctrewyou
  • Score: 7

1:35pm Sun 26 Jan 14

poolebabe says...

Johns66 wrote:
Well after reading all of your comments, some very good and constructive and some extremely stupid I think after almost 38 years, this man has had this in his mind about the dreadful events that surrounding as a young 13 year old boy. I think that the legal system is good just the way it is and allowing historic crimes to be investigated and brought to justice. The young man in question has done a lot with his life although had this event not had taken place he could of achieved a lot more. I understand he now runs an animal sanctuary for unwanted and ill treated animals as well as looking after x drinkers and drug abusers. So on the whole I would say he has used his life much more meaningful than Bryant ever did, as Bryant life was built on a web of lies, deceit, and mistrust. The sentence handed down was very lenient bearing in mind the severity of the crime. It is a shame that Goodman died having effectively got away with the rape however, as it was told in court, he had been convicted twice before of sexual changes for which mrs bryant knew, these were also conducted in the firestation. This too me only cements the version of events. I told someone yesterday that i was going to comment on this page. They asked in what capacity, the simple truth is my name is Danny Day. There will not be any compensation claims for this and the fight against bryant is now finished. Having said that, Mr. Beach head if you feel you need to take his place with your snide comments then please be brave enough to identify who you are, or maybe your just a coward like the two firemen.
Danny I just want to say that that I think you are very brave for not only speaking out, but waiving your annonimity as well. Pay no attention to the few negative comments on here, their views are the minority. There should never be a statute of limitations I agree. Some crimes are so horrific, that a statute of limitations would only force a victim to put up or shut up. That isn't fair, and we should listen to the victims, whenever they choose or feel ready to speak out. Rape of a child is a crime, no matter when it was committed. I agree also with you, that bryants sentence was too lenient. His crime was a terrible one, and as such his life and service was a façade, and does not make up for what he did. I do hope you can find some peace now "justice" has been done, but of course, some acknowledgement of what he did would make things a bit better for you still.
[quote][p][bold]Johns66[/bold] wrote: Well after reading all of your comments, some very good and constructive and some extremely stupid I think after almost 38 years, this man has had this in his mind about the dreadful events that surrounding as a young 13 year old boy. I think that the legal system is good just the way it is and allowing historic crimes to be investigated and brought to justice. The young man in question has done a lot with his life although had this event not had taken place he could of achieved a lot more. I understand he now runs an animal sanctuary for unwanted and ill treated animals as well as looking after x drinkers and drug abusers. So on the whole I would say he has used his life much more meaningful than Bryant ever did, as Bryant life was built on a web of lies, deceit, and mistrust. The sentence handed down was very lenient bearing in mind the severity of the crime. It is a shame that Goodman died having effectively got away with the rape however, as it was told in court, he had been convicted twice before of sexual changes for which mrs bryant knew, these were also conducted in the firestation. This too me only cements the version of events. I told someone yesterday that i was going to comment on this page. They asked in what capacity, the simple truth is my name is Danny Day. There will not be any compensation claims for this and the fight against bryant is now finished. Having said that, Mr. Beach head if you feel you need to take his place with your snide comments then please be brave enough to identify who you are, or maybe your just a coward like the two firemen.[/p][/quote]Danny I just want to say that that I think you are very brave for not only speaking out, but waiving your annonimity as well. Pay no attention to the few negative comments on here, their views are the minority. There should never be a statute of limitations I agree. Some crimes are so horrific, that a statute of limitations would only force a victim to put up or shut up. That isn't fair, and we should listen to the victims, whenever they choose or feel ready to speak out. Rape of a child is a crime, no matter when it was committed. I agree also with you, that bryants sentence was too lenient. His crime was a terrible one, and as such his life and service was a façade, and does not make up for what he did. I do hope you can find some peace now "justice" has been done, but of course, some acknowledgement of what he did would make things a bit better for you still. poolebabe
  • Score: 5

4:54pm Sun 26 Jan 14

ctrewyou says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.
Quite right, let's make the system fairer for men who rape children. If a child hasn't made a complaint within 3 months, then they were obviously not really that upset by what had happened. Men who rape children get enough bad press as it is, they should not actually be prosecuted for their crimes.
Idiot.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.[/p][/quote]Quite right, let's make the system fairer for men who rape children. If a child hasn't made a complaint within 3 months, then they were obviously not really that upset by what had happened. Men who rape children get enough bad press as it is, they should not actually be prosecuted for their crimes. Idiot. ctrewyou
  • Score: 6

10:31am Mon 27 Jan 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.
After a rethink I've changed my mind. It should be 1 month. That way an innocent person has a fair chance of being able to prove she/he didn't do it.
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.[/p][/quote]After a rethink I've changed my mind. It should be 1 month. That way an innocent person has a fair chance of being able to prove she/he didn't do it. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: -3

2:31pm Mon 27 Jan 14

IG1983 says...

Im sat on the fence when it comes to a "statue of limitation". There is a positive and obviously a negative.

I believe if the victim was under the age of 18 e.g. a child by law. Then there should be a longer period of time that they can report a crime. Perhaps on some kind of a sliding scale. With the consensus that when they are of an adult age, they have a concept of what happened to them. However, the longer a crime goes unreported, there is an issue of young memories becoming disjointed and not always accurate..

If this happens to an adult, I do agree a shorter period of time, when someone is able to report a crime of this nature.

Im guessing, the idea of removing the statue of limitation is to get rid of the number of false allegations made surrounding this topic. With the significant increase in the number of reported cases to the police, they are sending a whole lot more people straight to court with a slight chance of conviction. Meaning you can go to court based on no actual evidence apart from the accusers word. Which is quite a scary thought if someone wants revenge or compensation. Plus, it is very hard to defend allegations of this nature...

With regards to Mr Bryant, the jury found him guilty. The judge has summed up his sentence based on a number on what he has done and the way he has lived his life. I agree that the "system" has done its job. I also think the man who got sentenced will be a shadow of the man he was when he committed the crime as such I believe the judge has accurately pointed this out.

To the victim: I do think you are very brave for coming forward. I hope you find some resolve in this matter.. move forward and look to brighter things.

Just my thoughts..
Cheers
Im sat on the fence when it comes to a "statue of limitation". There is a positive and obviously a negative. I believe if the victim was under the age of 18 e.g. a child by law. Then there should be a longer period of time that they can report a crime. Perhaps on some kind of a sliding scale. With the consensus that when they are of an adult age, they have a concept of what happened to them. However, the longer a crime goes unreported, there is an issue of young memories becoming disjointed and not always accurate.. If this happens to an adult, I do agree a shorter period of time, when someone is able to report a crime of this nature. Im guessing, the idea of removing the statue of limitation is to get rid of the number of false allegations made surrounding this topic. With the significant increase in the number of reported cases to the police, they are sending a whole lot more people straight to court with a slight chance of conviction. Meaning you can go to court based on no actual evidence apart from the accusers word. Which is quite a scary thought if someone wants revenge or compensation. Plus, it is very hard to defend allegations of this nature... With regards to Mr Bryant, the jury found him guilty. The judge has summed up his sentence based on a number on what he has done and the way he has lived his life. I agree that the "system" has done its job. I also think the man who got sentenced will be a shadow of the man he was when he committed the crime as such I believe the judge has accurately pointed this out. To the victim: I do think you are very brave for coming forward. I hope you find some resolve in this matter.. move forward and look to brighter things. Just my thoughts.. Cheers IG1983
  • Score: 1

4:47pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Moimccallion says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.
After a rethink I've changed my mind. It should be 1 month. That way an innocent person has a fair chance of being able to prove she/he didn't do it.
What a complete arsehole you are!!! You should change you name from beachy head to **** !!!!
God help your children if you have any!! I hope they never have to go through what Danny has, with you as a parent you'll be patting the attacker on the back if your child doesn't spk up!!!
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.[/p][/quote]After a rethink I've changed my mind. It should be 1 month. That way an innocent person has a fair chance of being able to prove she/he didn't do it.[/p][/quote]What a complete arsehole you are!!! You should change you name from beachy head to **** !!!! God help your children if you have any!! I hope they never have to go through what Danny has, with you as a parent you'll be patting the attacker on the back if your child doesn't spk up!!! Moimccallion
  • Score: 3

9:14pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Macbeth100 says...

So Dan, can you explain the following to us :-
1) why you sent Dave Bryant saying one way or another he was going to pay ? ie a veiled blackmail threat
2) why you description of the crime scene was based on the modern layout of the Fire Station and not the one of 38 years ago, ie there was no billiard table there 38 years ago.
3) That your counsel have explained the consequences of committing perjury to you ?
So Dan, can you explain the following to us :- 1) why you sent Dave Bryant saying one way or another he was going to pay ? ie a veiled blackmail threat 2) why you description of the crime scene was based on the modern layout of the Fire Station and not the one of 38 years ago, ie there was no billiard table there 38 years ago. 3) That your counsel have explained the consequences of committing perjury to you ? Macbeth100
  • Score: 4

9:16pm Mon 27 Jan 14

Macbeth100 says...

Also interesting that you were commenting on this website while the case was still live ? isn't that contempt of court ?

http://www.bournemou
thecho.co.uk/news/10
892648.Fireman_David
_Bryant_found_guilty
_of_raping_schoolboy
_almost_40_years_ago
/

Johns66 making several comments on that thread.
Also interesting that you were commenting on this website while the case was still live ? isn't that contempt of court ? http://www.bournemou thecho.co.uk/news/10 892648.Fireman_David _Bryant_found_guilty _of_raping_schoolboy _almost_40_years_ago / Johns66 making several comments on that thread. Macbeth100
  • Score: 1

6:26am Tue 28 Jan 14

Johns66 says...

Macbeth100 wrote:
Also interesting that you were commenting on this website while the case was still live ? isn't that contempt of court ?

http://www.bournemou

thecho.co.uk/news/10

892648.Fireman_David

_Bryant_found_guilty

_of_raping_schoolboy

_almost_40_years_ago

/

Johns66 making several comments on that thread.
Well if you feel it was contempt of court please feel free to complain I'm sure someone will listen to you Prob the same fools who supported the fireman any way good luck with your life Macbeth. It sounds like you need some professional help
[quote][p][bold]Macbeth100[/bold] wrote: Also interesting that you were commenting on this website while the case was still live ? isn't that contempt of court ? http://www.bournemou thecho.co.uk/news/10 892648.Fireman_David _Bryant_found_guilty _of_raping_schoolboy _almost_40_years_ago / Johns66 making several comments on that thread.[/p][/quote]Well if you feel it was contempt of court please feel free to complain I'm sure someone will listen to you Prob the same fools who supported the fireman any way good luck with your life Macbeth. It sounds like you need some professional help Johns66
  • Score: -4

12:48pm Tue 28 Jan 14

rickcknight says...

6 Years for raping a Kid? Is this judge on drugs? Judge Samuel Wiggs said “It is difficult to think of anybody who has shown, over the years, a stronger sense of civic and public duty than you have.” So because you're an all round 'good egg' you get a reduced sentence for Raping a Minor and a boy at that? I hope the CPS see sense and appeal the sentence. This dirty **** should be left to rot in Prison for life.
In reply to some of the others above, kids don't always come forward as they're either ashamed afraid that no one will believe them or afraid that they will be in trouble for it. Confidence grows with age.
6 Years for raping a Kid? Is this judge on drugs? Judge Samuel Wiggs said “It is difficult to think of anybody who has shown, over the years, a stronger sense of civic and public duty than you have.” So because you're an all round 'good egg' you get a reduced sentence for Raping a Minor and a boy at that? I hope the CPS see sense and appeal the sentence. This dirty **** should be left to rot in Prison for life. In reply to some of the others above, kids don't always come forward as they're either ashamed afraid that no one will believe them or afraid that they will be in trouble for it. Confidence grows with age. rickcknight
  • Score: 0

3:27pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Johns66 says...

rickcknight wrote:
6 Years for raping a Kid? Is this judge on drugs? Judge Samuel Wiggs said “It is difficult to think of anybody who has shown, over the years, a stronger sense of civic and public duty than you have.” So because you're an all round 'good egg' you get a reduced sentence for Raping a Minor and a boy at that? I hope the CPS see sense and appeal the sentence. This dirty **** should be left to rot in Prison for life.
In reply to some of the others above, kids don't always come forward as they're either ashamed afraid that no one will believe them or afraid that they will be in trouble for it. Confidence grows with age.
Well said mate
[quote][p][bold]rickcknight[/bold] wrote: 6 Years for raping a Kid? Is this judge on drugs? Judge Samuel Wiggs said “It is difficult to think of anybody who has shown, over the years, a stronger sense of civic and public duty than you have.” So because you're an all round 'good egg' you get a reduced sentence for Raping a Minor and a boy at that? I hope the CPS see sense and appeal the sentence. This dirty **** should be left to rot in Prison for life. In reply to some of the others above, kids don't always come forward as they're either ashamed afraid that no one will believe them or afraid that they will be in trouble for it. Confidence grows with age.[/p][/quote]Well said mate Johns66
  • Score: 0

4:11pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Johns66 says...

Macbeth100 wrote:
So Dan, can you explain the following to us :-
1) why you sent Dave Bryant saying one way or another he was going to pay ? ie a veiled blackmail threat
2) why you description of the crime scene was based on the modern layout of the Fire Station and not the one of 38 years ago, ie there was no billiard table there 38 years ago.
3) That your counsel have explained the consequences of committing perjury to you ?
I do not have to explain to you or anyone else you are well aware that I have done all the explaining I needed to do in court. The one thing that bothers me very much is the people on here who seemingly think that I have told untruths , why are you hiding behind a silly name a keyboard and a computer screen give us all your real name the area you live as I have done. Don't hide
[quote][p][bold]Macbeth100[/bold] wrote: So Dan, can you explain the following to us :- 1) why you sent Dave Bryant saying one way or another he was going to pay ? ie a veiled blackmail threat 2) why you description of the crime scene was based on the modern layout of the Fire Station and not the one of 38 years ago, ie there was no billiard table there 38 years ago. 3) That your counsel have explained the consequences of committing perjury to you ?[/p][/quote]I do not have to explain to you or anyone else you are well aware that I have done all the explaining I needed to do in court. The one thing that bothers me very much is the people on here who seemingly think that I have told untruths , why are you hiding behind a silly name a keyboard and a computer screen give us all your real name the area you live as I have done. Don't hide Johns66
  • Score: 0

8:12pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Sir Alan says...

Johns66 wrote:
Macbeth100 wrote:
So Dan, can you explain the following to us :-
1) why you sent Dave Bryant saying one way or another he was going to pay ? ie a veiled blackmail threat
2) why you description of the crime scene was based on the modern layout of the Fire Station and not the one of 38 years ago, ie there was no billiard table there 38 years ago.
3) That your counsel have explained the consequences of committing perjury to you ?
I do not have to explain to you or anyone else you are well aware that I have done all the explaining I needed to do in court. The one thing that bothers me very much is the people on here who seemingly think that I have told untruths , why are you hiding behind a silly name a keyboard and a computer screen give us all your real name the area you live as I have done. Don't hide
yes come on dan answer the questions
[quote][p][bold]Johns66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Macbeth100[/bold] wrote: So Dan, can you explain the following to us :- 1) why you sent Dave Bryant saying one way or another he was going to pay ? ie a veiled blackmail threat 2) why you description of the crime scene was based on the modern layout of the Fire Station and not the one of 38 years ago, ie there was no billiard table there 38 years ago. 3) That your counsel have explained the consequences of committing perjury to you ?[/p][/quote]I do not have to explain to you or anyone else you are well aware that I have done all the explaining I needed to do in court. The one thing that bothers me very much is the people on here who seemingly think that I have told untruths , why are you hiding behind a silly name a keyboard and a computer screen give us all your real name the area you live as I have done. Don't hide[/p][/quote]yes come on dan answer the questions Sir Alan
  • Score: 6

8:25pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Sir Alan says...

i was wondering why when Danny Day claimed he was screaming at the top of his voice for several minutes why no one in the 2 flats upstairs came down to investigate, what was going on. a fire station is not the sort of place if you want privacy as you can never tell who will turn up .
i do not know if you were raped or not, only you will know that but i just feel to send a person to prison there needs to be a bit of evidence other than one word against another. i did not hear anything at the court hearing that to my mind proved the case.
i was wondering why when Danny Day claimed he was screaming at the top of his voice for several minutes why no one in the 2 flats upstairs came down to investigate, what was going on. a fire station is not the sort of place if you want privacy as you can never tell who will turn up . i do not know if you were raped or not, only you will know that but i just feel to send a person to prison there needs to be a bit of evidence other than one word against another. i did not hear anything at the court hearing that to my mind proved the case. Sir Alan
  • Score: 7

10:18pm Tue 28 Jan 14

Not again !! says...

Johns66 wrote:
Macbeth100 wrote:
So Dan, can you explain the following to us :-
1) why you sent Dave Bryant saying one way or another he was going to pay ? ie a veiled blackmail threat
2) why you description of the crime scene was based on the modern layout of the Fire Station and not the one of 38 years ago, ie there was no billiard table there 38 years ago.
3) That your counsel have explained the consequences of committing perjury to you ?
I do not have to explain to you or anyone else you are well aware that I have done all the explaining I needed to do in court. The one thing that bothers me very much is the people on here who seemingly think that I have told untruths , why are you hiding behind a silly name a keyboard and a computer screen give us all your real name the area you live as I have done. Don't hide
Hiding behind silly names on a keyboard !!!!
Is this not what you and your partner were doing while the case was on going? You have made loads of comments in previous articles, even asking ;does any one know about this man who has been abused'. Not very even handed if you ask me.
I have also wanted to ask the questions regarding how you got so much wrong about the building layout and the note that appears to smack of blackmail.
Only you and Dave Bryant really know what happened that night and if this offence really did happen it's a terrible thing, I can't begin to understand how awful it must be. What you have to understand is that from the outside looking in, it looks as if it's just your word against his and that's a bit worrying if any Tom, Dick or Harry wants to make an accusation against any of us in the future.
You have not played fair by using this forum before revealing your real identity and it goes against the good character that you have portrayed yourself as being.
Just for the record I do know Dave Bryant from a distance and he is most certainly not a friend of mine, however he is not the arrogant bully that some have made him out to be. He may be guilty,,,,only you and he know that !
[quote][p][bold]Johns66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Macbeth100[/bold] wrote: So Dan, can you explain the following to us :- 1) why you sent Dave Bryant saying one way or another he was going to pay ? ie a veiled blackmail threat 2) why you description of the crime scene was based on the modern layout of the Fire Station and not the one of 38 years ago, ie there was no billiard table there 38 years ago. 3) That your counsel have explained the consequences of committing perjury to you ?[/p][/quote]I do not have to explain to you or anyone else you are well aware that I have done all the explaining I needed to do in court. The one thing that bothers me very much is the people on here who seemingly think that I have told untruths , why are you hiding behind a silly name a keyboard and a computer screen give us all your real name the area you live as I have done. Don't hide[/p][/quote]Hiding behind silly names on a keyboard !!!! Is this not what you and your partner were doing while the case was on going? You have made loads of comments in previous articles, even asking ;does any one know about this man who has been abused'. Not very even handed if you ask me. I have also wanted to ask the questions regarding how you got so much wrong about the building layout and the note that appears to smack of blackmail. Only you and Dave Bryant really know what happened that night and if this offence really did happen it's a terrible thing, I can't begin to understand how awful it must be. What you have to understand is that from the outside looking in, it looks as if it's just your word against his and that's a bit worrying if any Tom, Dick or Harry wants to make an accusation against any of us in the future. You have not played fair by using this forum before revealing your real identity and it goes against the good character that you have portrayed yourself as being. Just for the record I do know Dave Bryant from a distance and he is most certainly not a friend of mine, however he is not the arrogant bully that some have made him out to be. He may be guilty,,,,only you and he know that ! Not again !!
  • Score: 5

4:09pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Johns66 says...

Really and your good character. I thing if people who know you were to read some of your thoughts on here then maybe they would see you in a different light. . As to bryant being a bully he most certainly was in the fire station that night. But look at him now still very arrogant And I detest bully's I hope he know knows what it feels like to be degraded. It such a way. He can never make up for what he and the other pervert done to me I really hope that god forgives him. Coz I won't
Really and your good character. I thing if people who know you were to read some of your thoughts on here then maybe they would see you in a different light. . As to bryant being a bully he most certainly was in the fire station that night. But look at him now still very arrogant And I detest bully's I hope he know knows what it feels like to be degraded. It such a way. He can never make up for what he and the other pervert done to me I really hope that god forgives him. Coz I won't Johns66
  • Score: 0

8:34pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Not again !! says...

Johns66 wrote:
Really and your good character. I thing if people who know you were to read some of your thoughts on here then maybe they would see you in a different light. . As to bryant being a bully he most certainly was in the fire station that night. But look at him now still very arrogant And I detest bully's I hope he know knows what it feels like to be degraded. It such a way. He can never make up for what he and the other pervert done to me I really hope that god forgives him. Coz I won't
I don't understand when you say "Really and your good character".
All I have really said is that you and your partner have used this platform to sway peoples opinions under the guise of someone else while this court case was ongoing, which in my opinion is dishonest.
It is also apparent that anyone who has a slightly opposing view to your own you try and demean and even worse label as a kiddie fiddler.
Most people I have spoken to are of the same view and that is as I stated in my previous comments.
I have no reason to hide my thoughts as they are pretty much in line with most free thinking members of our community.
[quote][p][bold]Johns66[/bold] wrote: Really and your good character. I thing if people who know you were to read some of your thoughts on here then maybe they would see you in a different light. . As to bryant being a bully he most certainly was in the fire station that night. But look at him now still very arrogant And I detest bully's I hope he know knows what it feels like to be degraded. It such a way. He can never make up for what he and the other pervert done to me I really hope that god forgives him. Coz I won't[/p][/quote]I don't understand when you say "Really and your good character". All I have really said is that you and your partner have used this platform to sway peoples opinions under the guise of someone else while this court case was ongoing, which in my opinion is dishonest. It is also apparent that anyone who has a slightly opposing view to your own you try and demean and even worse label as a kiddie fiddler. Most people I have spoken to are of the same view and that is as I stated in my previous comments. I have no reason to hide my thoughts as they are pretty much in line with most free thinking members of our community. Not again !!
  • Score: 2

1:29am Thu 30 Jan 14

Macbeth100 says...

A previous post from "Johns66" on the article from the 21st December on this website :-
Johns66 says...
The man has been found guilty of raping a child. Now let him feel the full force of the law. I hope he goes away for twenty years. And if he does come out he comes in a coffin. But the fire service are also at fault as all this happened on there premises

So Johns66 if you don't get any money from the criminal compensation board can you confirm or deny you'll be seeking money from the Fire Brigade....as it looks like this thought is in your mind...blaming the Fire Brigade possibly in the form of a civil claim ?

Care to comment ?
A previous post from "Johns66" on the article from the 21st December on this website :- Johns66 says... The man has been found guilty of raping a child. Now let him feel the full force of the law. I hope he goes away for twenty years. And if he does come out he comes in a coffin. But the fire service are also at fault as all this happened on there premises So Johns66 if you don't get any money from the criminal compensation board can you confirm or deny you'll be seeking money from the Fire Brigade....as it looks like this thought is in your mind...blaming the Fire Brigade possibly in the form of a civil claim ? Care to comment ? Macbeth100
  • Score: 0

6:33pm Fri 31 Jan 14

Johns66 says...

Macbeth100 wrote:
A previous post from "Johns66" on the article from the 21st December on this website :-
Johns66 says...
The man has been found guilty of raping a child. Now let him feel the full force of the law. I hope he goes away for twenty years. And if he does come out he comes in a coffin. But the fire service are also at fault as all this happened on there premises

So Johns66 if you don't get any money from the criminal compensation board can you confirm or deny you'll be seeking money from the Fire Brigade....as it looks like this thought is in your mind...blaming the Fire Brigade possibly in the form of a civil claim ?

Care to comment ?
Macbeth I was never out to get money from anyone I was lucky in my work life I retired at 47 due to having 3 heart attacks I have enough money. This was about putting right a wrong that happened to me as a young teenager that was all please don't think for one second I enjoyed being in that court. Having my dirty laundry aired in public But the fact remains he done what he done we can go on all night arguing the rights and wrongs of the justice system it will make no difference at all to the was justice works. I needed some sort of closure on this matter and I thought the legal way best but I will be honest with you I feel the same now as I did 3yrs ago the outcome of this trial has made no difference to my thinking the only thing it has done is put the man responcible behind bars there is a couple of points that I found interesting Mrs bryant is the niece of mr goodman the other fireman , after I made the allegation she phoned the police and told them that many yrs before she saw uncle dennis with a young boy in the fire station together if you understand what I mean and secondly goodman have previous on 2 occasions relating to young boys also at the station I knew nothing of these events until after I made the allegations , so that would tell me quite obviously that she knew about her husband and her uncle ???? But as I said this was never ever about money. Dan
[quote][p][bold]Macbeth100[/bold] wrote: A previous post from "Johns66" on the article from the 21st December on this website :- Johns66 says... The man has been found guilty of raping a child. Now let him feel the full force of the law. I hope he goes away for twenty years. And if he does come out he comes in a coffin. But the fire service are also at fault as all this happened on there premises So Johns66 if you don't get any money from the criminal compensation board can you confirm or deny you'll be seeking money from the Fire Brigade....as it looks like this thought is in your mind...blaming the Fire Brigade possibly in the form of a civil claim ? Care to comment ?[/p][/quote]Macbeth I was never out to get money from anyone I was lucky in my work life I retired at 47 due to having 3 heart attacks I have enough money. This was about putting right a wrong that happened to me as a young teenager that was all please don't think for one second I enjoyed being in that court. Having my dirty laundry aired in public But the fact remains he done what he done we can go on all night arguing the rights and wrongs of the justice system it will make no difference at all to the was justice works. I needed some sort of closure on this matter and I thought the legal way best but I will be honest with you I feel the same now as I did 3yrs ago the outcome of this trial has made no difference to my thinking the only thing it has done is put the man responcible behind bars there is a couple of points that I found interesting Mrs bryant is the niece of mr goodman the other fireman , after I made the allegation she phoned the police and told them that many yrs before she saw uncle dennis with a young boy in the fire station together if you understand what I mean and secondly goodman have previous on 2 occasions relating to young boys also at the station I knew nothing of these events until after I made the allegations , so that would tell me quite obviously that she knew about her husband and her uncle ???? But as I said this was never ever about money. Dan Johns66
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9:16pm Sat 8 Feb 14

parkstoneboy says...

BournemouthMum wrote:
Sir Beachy Head wrote:
They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.
Completely agree. These cases are very difficult to prove after so many years, and apart from cases where there is very strong evidence (i.e. independent witnesses and idential crimes reported by different individuals) there's always doubt as to whether the offences actually took place. I also can't help wondering what purpose it serves to jail an old person and disrupt their life for something that 'may' have happened so long ago. Even if David Bryant is guilty, he has led an exemplary life since and I find it strange that someone with a propensity for sexual crime hasn't committed at least one other such crime in all these years. There should definitely be a time limit in which victims have to report the crime.
The filthy piece of scum has probably committed more crimes, just hasn't been caught.
As for putting a time limit of three months on disgusting rape crimes like this, how would you feel if it was one of your kids getting raped, as you like to call yourself a mother.
I hope the filthy piece of scum gets held over a table and butt f**ked by a couple of nasty lifers with nothing to lose, on a daily basis....
[quote][p][bold]BournemouthMum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: They should ban all these historic crime prosecutions. It should be that if you dont come forward with a complaint within 6 months of the supposed crime taking place then tough. Maybe even 3 months.[/p][/quote]Completely agree. These cases are very difficult to prove after so many years, and apart from cases where there is very strong evidence (i.e. independent witnesses and idential crimes reported by different individuals) there's always doubt as to whether the offences actually took place. I also can't help wondering what purpose it serves to jail an old person and disrupt their life for something that 'may' have happened so long ago. Even if David Bryant is guilty, he has led an exemplary life since and I find it strange that someone with a propensity for sexual crime hasn't committed at least one other such crime in all these years. There should definitely be a time limit in which victims have to report the crime.[/p][/quote]The filthy piece of scum has probably committed more crimes, just hasn't been caught. As for putting a time limit of three months on disgusting rape crimes like this, how would you feel if it was one of your kids getting raped, as you like to call yourself a mother. I hope the filthy piece of scum gets held over a table and butt f**ked by a couple of nasty lifers with nothing to lose, on a daily basis.... parkstoneboy
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