New-look Boscombe crescent unveiled after £125k makeover

New-look Boscombe crescent unveiled after £125k makeover

New-look Boscombe crescent unveiled after £125k makeover

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THE new-look Boscombe Crescent has been officially unveiled following its long-awaited makeover.

Mayor of Bournemouth Cllr Rodney Cooper cut the ribbon at the revamped public open space.

The Crescent, which is at the heart of one of the most deprived areas in the south west region, has benefitted from a raft of improvements as part of the Backing Boscombe campaign.

A total of £125,000 has been spent on the improvements, which have been carried out in two separate phases.

The area now boasts new crescent-shaped paths, seating bays for benches, a separate pathway from Walpole Road to Christchurch Road, a new planting bed, additional railings, a paved area for pop-up kiosks and events and a permanent Christmas tree socket. The council’s parks team have planted the new areas and created a direct path to the newly positioned bus stop.

Cllr Jane Kelly, cabinet member for partnerships and regeneration, said: “I am so pleased that improvements at Boscombe Crescent have been completed.

“The space is more inviting – a place families can enjoy.

“It is a really important focal point in Boscombe; both as a first impression to the area and as an opportunity to show how investment and care can start to bring about a positive change. The council, as part of the Backing Boscombe project, has taken time to work with local residents through a variety of consultations.”

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1:16pm Sat 3 May 14

GeorgeW64 says...

It will soon look like part of the old Boscombe when all the staffy owners let their dogs dig holes all over the freshly laid turf while they sit on the benches asking passers by if they got a fag paper or 50p for the phone.
It does look nice but what a waste of time until you get shot of the undesirables.
It will soon look like part of the old Boscombe when all the staffy owners let their dogs dig holes all over the freshly laid turf while they sit on the benches asking passers by if they got a fag paper or 50p for the phone. It does look nice but what a waste of time until you get shot of the undesirables. GeorgeW64
  • Score: 68

1:33pm Sat 3 May 14

muscliffman says...

Still painting over Boscombe's huge fissures, all for a bit of good press and a photo opportunity naturally....

I am sure we would all like to see a detailed breakdown of the £125,000(!) of our money this reportedly cost along with the relevant competitive tenders, it is after all a very small park no bigger than many traffic islands - and large sums have already been spent here in recent years.

You cannot avoid wondering what on earth is really going on!
Still painting over Boscombe's huge fissures, all for a bit of good press and a photo opportunity naturally.... I am sure we would all like to see a detailed breakdown of the £125,000(!) of our money this reportedly cost along with the relevant competitive tenders, it is after all a very small park no bigger than many traffic islands - and large sums have already been spent here in recent years. You cannot avoid wondering what on earth is really going on! muscliffman
  • Score: 54

1:37pm Sat 3 May 14

bosco1 says...

Lets hope our thoughts are wrong and the place will stay and look decent for many years to come, alot of money and time has been spent on this project and thanks to all those people involved.I hope the area is monitored and as the above reader said get rid of the undesirables before they make this a new venue.!!
Lets hope our thoughts are wrong and the place will stay and look decent for many years to come, alot of money and time has been spent on this project and thanks to all those people involved.I hope the area is monitored and as the above reader said get rid of the undesirables before they make this a new venue.!! bosco1
  • Score: 18

1:46pm Sat 3 May 14

Azphreal says...

I am still waiting to be told how this will 'help' Boscombe. Will it stop the loss of stalls at boscombe market? Will it bring people in to the empty shop units? Will it stop the creation of HMO's in that area? Maybe as the police box has its own CCTV and the one that is supposed to cover the street is always aimed at the bloody thing some of the police that guard it can go and guard the crescent now.
I am still waiting to be told how this will 'help' Boscombe. Will it stop the loss of stalls at boscombe market? Will it bring people in to the empty shop units? Will it stop the creation of HMO's in that area? Maybe as the police box has its own CCTV and the one that is supposed to cover the street is always aimed at the bloody thing some of the police that guard it can go and guard the crescent now. Azphreal
  • Score: 21

1:48pm Sat 3 May 14

Azphreal says...

Azphreal wrote:
I am still waiting to be told how this will 'help' Boscombe. Will it stop the loss of stalls at boscombe market? Will it bring people in to the empty shop units? Will it stop the creation of HMO's in that area? Maybe as the police box has its own CCTV and the one that is supposed to cover the street is always aimed at the bloody thing some of the police that guard it can go and guard the crescent now.
Oh and look at the crowds that turned up for the opening,Echo why not tell us how many of them were NOT connected to the council or the creation of this waste of money.
[quote][p][bold]Azphreal[/bold] wrote: I am still waiting to be told how this will 'help' Boscombe. Will it stop the loss of stalls at boscombe market? Will it bring people in to the empty shop units? Will it stop the creation of HMO's in that area? Maybe as the police box has its own CCTV and the one that is supposed to cover the street is always aimed at the bloody thing some of the police that guard it can go and guard the crescent now.[/p][/quote]Oh and look at the crowds that turned up for the opening,Echo why not tell us how many of them were NOT connected to the council or the creation of this waste of money. Azphreal
  • Score: 18

1:51pm Sat 3 May 14

blakieboy7 says...

You can roll a turd in glitter.......
You can roll a turd in glitter....... blakieboy7
  • Score: 28

2:07pm Sat 3 May 14

Lord Spring says...

I bet it looks better with unground toilets removed.
I bet it looks better with unground toilets removed. Lord Spring
  • Score: 7

2:25pm Sat 3 May 14

Bob49 says...

bosco1 wrote:
Lets hope our thoughts are wrong and the place will stay and look decent for many years to come, alot of money and time has been spent on this project and thanks to all those people involved.I hope the area is monitored and as the above reader said get rid of the undesirables before they make this a new venue.!!
err, you haven't quite gfrasped this have you

it is the 'undesirables' that make Boscombe such a money spinner ie maximum rent (Hiousing Benefit) for minimum housing (squalid slums) they are hardly likely to get rid of them, are they ?

Iif there was any thought of improving the area the council would start with requiring landlords to keep the gardens and outside of the properties clean and tidy, why not ask yourself why this has not been done

given this lucrative money spinner the majority who live close by are undesirables, so what has been achieved ?

a charade that supposedly let's the council off the hook in regard to the above scam, and if it fools any more folk than then not only has it done it's job but signifies that nothing serious will ever be done, because there is actually NO INTENT WHATSOEVER to stop this 'nice little earner'
[quote][p][bold]bosco1[/bold] wrote: Lets hope our thoughts are wrong and the place will stay and look decent for many years to come, alot of money and time has been spent on this project and thanks to all those people involved.I hope the area is monitored and as the above reader said get rid of the undesirables before they make this a new venue.!![/p][/quote]err, you haven't quite gfrasped this have you it is the 'undesirables' that make Boscombe such a money spinner ie maximum rent (Hiousing Benefit) for minimum housing (squalid slums) they are hardly likely to get rid of them, are they ? Iif there was any thought of improving the area the council would start with requiring landlords to keep the gardens and outside of the properties clean and tidy, why not ask yourself why this has not been done given this lucrative money spinner the majority who live close by are undesirables, so what has been achieved ? a charade that supposedly let's the council off the hook in regard to the above scam, and if it fools any more folk than then not only has it done it's job but signifies that nothing serious will ever be done, because there is actually NO INTENT WHATSOEVER to stop this 'nice little earner' Bob49
  • Score: 6

2:44pm Sat 3 May 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

I expect the Mayor was glad to hop into his chauffeur driven BMW and get home to Admirals Walk, West Cliff Road, a.s.a.p
I expect the Mayor was glad to hop into his chauffeur driven BMW and get home to Admirals Walk, West Cliff Road, a.s.a.p Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 18

2:48pm Sat 3 May 14

SympatheticSam says...

Even if it stays looking nice, no one who cares will see it. Boscum is vile. So is everyone who inhabits the hole. Just knock it all down, and build a carpark. Oh Mr Mitchell....
Even if it stays looking nice, no one who cares will see it. Boscum is vile. So is everyone who inhabits the hole. Just knock it all down, and build a carpark. Oh Mr Mitchell.... SympatheticSam
  • Score: -20

3:46pm Sat 3 May 14

stevobath says...

blakieboy7 wrote:
You can roll a turd in glitter.......
But you'll STILL be 'blakieboy7'...
[quote][p][bold]blakieboy7[/bold] wrote: You can roll a turd in glitter.......[/p][/quote]But you'll STILL be 'blakieboy7'... stevobath
  • Score: 5

4:16pm Sat 3 May 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

Come on,let see some B*lls and challenge the landlords who provide inadequate accomodation at high rentals..This revamping of the Crescent is just vanity.As i previous stated it part of the Boscombe Regeneration-Crescen
t Regeneration Action Plan.The document is called C.R.A.P.

It the same old suspects shying away from the real issues and a recycled town centre manager who will be watch by the 'grim reaper'.h

Also other neighbourhoods deserve this much attention.Since the Boscombe Tardis has been put in police resources have been withdrawn from others to man it.For example a PCSO from the Southbourne SNT can be seen at the Tardis.

Is that me or is that Claire Balding on the far right ?
Come on,let see some B*lls and challenge the landlords who provide inadequate accomodation at high rentals..This revamping of the Crescent is just vanity.As i previous stated it part of the Boscombe Regeneration-Crescen t Regeneration Action Plan.The document is called C.R.A.P. It the same old suspects shying away from the real issues and a recycled town centre manager who will be watch by the 'grim reaper'.h Also other neighbourhoods deserve this much attention.Since the Boscombe Tardis has been put in police resources have been withdrawn from others to man it.For example a PCSO from the Southbourne SNT can be seen at the Tardis. Is that me or is that Claire Balding on the far right ? politicaltrainspotter
  • Score: 11

4:50pm Sat 3 May 14

HRH of Boscombe says...

muscliffman wrote:
Still painting over Boscombe's huge fissures, all for a bit of good press and a photo opportunity naturally....

I am sure we would all like to see a detailed breakdown of the £125,000(!) of our money this reportedly cost along with the relevant competitive tenders, it is after all a very small park no bigger than many traffic islands - and large sums have already been spent here in recent years.

You cannot avoid wondering what on earth is really going on!
I would imagine it's made up of a lot of 'consultation' fees...
.
Cllr Jane Kelly says 'The space is more inviting – a place families can enjoy'. Will she be taking her family there on a sunny day I wonder?
[quote][p][bold]muscliffman[/bold] wrote: Still painting over Boscombe's huge fissures, all for a bit of good press and a photo opportunity naturally.... I am sure we would all like to see a detailed breakdown of the £125,000(!) of our money this reportedly cost along with the relevant competitive tenders, it is after all a very small park no bigger than many traffic islands - and large sums have already been spent here in recent years. You cannot avoid wondering what on earth is really going on![/p][/quote]I would imagine it's made up of a lot of 'consultation' fees... . Cllr Jane Kelly says 'The space is more inviting – a place families can enjoy'. Will she be taking her family there on a sunny day I wonder? HRH of Boscombe
  • Score: -26

5:21pm Sat 3 May 14

skydriver says...

Sir Beachy Head wrote:
I expect the Mayor was glad to hop into his chauffeur driven BMW and get home to Admirals Walk, West Cliff Road, a.s.a.p
Did the golden medallion go missing whilst he wasn't looking, that would proberly buy a pack or two for the druggies..........
[quote][p][bold]Sir Beachy Head[/bold] wrote: I expect the Mayor was glad to hop into his chauffeur driven BMW and get home to Admirals Walk, West Cliff Road, a.s.a.p[/p][/quote]Did the golden medallion go missing whilst he wasn't looking, that would proberly buy a pack or two for the druggies.......... skydriver
  • Score: 4

6:03pm Sat 3 May 14

Phixer says...

'Cllr Jane Kelly said: “The space is more inviting – a place families can enjoy."

Yes, they'll be able to watch the drug dealing in comfort!
'Cllr Jane Kelly said: “The space is more inviting – a place families can enjoy." Yes, they'll be able to watch the drug dealing in comfort! Phixer
  • Score: 13

6:14pm Sat 3 May 14

Yankee1 says...

There is an unfortunate saying, made popular by Sarah Palin:

'You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.'

Crumbs. Like a broken clock, she is correct once a day.

Do you want to 'fix' Boscombe? Then adopt a 'zero tolerance' policy toward drugs and alcohol abuse. Stop coddling those with a weakness to opting out of society and opting into a 'soft' system. Be done with it.

Read up on 'Rudy Giuliani'. And adopt Zero Tolerance.
There is an unfortunate saying, made popular by Sarah Palin: 'You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.' Crumbs. Like a broken clock, she is correct once a day. Do you want to 'fix' Boscombe? Then adopt a 'zero tolerance' policy toward drugs and alcohol abuse. Stop coddling those with a weakness to opting out of society and opting into a 'soft' system. Be done with it. Read up on 'Rudy Giuliani'. And adopt Zero Tolerance. Yankee1
  • Score: 13

6:32pm Sat 3 May 14

SympatheticSam says...

Scum breeds scum. They all live in Boscum. Anyone with a drug addiction should be sterilised and any kids taken away. Job done.
Scum breeds scum. They all live in Boscum. Anyone with a drug addiction should be sterilised and any kids taken away. Job done. SympatheticSam
  • Score: 9

7:42pm Sat 3 May 14

shaft says...

Inviting place for families to enjoy - OK Cllr Kelly lets see you take your own advise and go and enjoy this inviting place, what's that to busy more like truth is not really that inviting is it unless you what to en joy it along side the drug taking users or boozers you see there. Poor Poor advise.
Inviting place for families to enjoy - OK Cllr Kelly lets see you take your own advise and go and enjoy this inviting place, what's that to busy more like truth is not really that inviting is it unless you what to en joy it along side the drug taking users or boozers you see there. Poor Poor advise. shaft
  • Score: 11

7:43pm Sat 3 May 14

Bob49 says...

Yankee1 wrote:
There is an unfortunate saying, made popular by Sarah Palin:

'You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.'

Crumbs. Like a broken clock, she is correct once a day.

Do you want to 'fix' Boscombe? Then adopt a 'zero tolerance' policy toward drugs and alcohol abuse. Stop coddling those with a weakness to opting out of society and opting into a 'soft' system. Be done with it.

Read up on 'Rudy Giuliani'. And adopt Zero Tolerance.
err, the qoute was actually ABOUT Sarah Palin, but the sentiment remains the same.

However the 'zero tolerance' idiocy has all the grasp on reality as that dimwitted air head has. You will not stop addicts using drink and drugs. As to Guillani I would suggest you read up on him, behind them myths and headlines that is. The seperate and highly in depth studies by Andrew Karmen and by Wayne Barret will expose the hype for what it is ... hype.

What should be understood is that these flawed initiatives are as much part of the problem as ever they are an answer. they are merely attempting to deal with the effects rather than the cause.

The 'bull in the china shop' does not need better glue to try and patch up the broken bits of crockery - it needs the bull taken out. It's as simple as that.

Remove the incentives for landlords to house addicts in slum housing. Get the council to pay the true worth of these slums and NOT the maximum allowance possible. Landlords would then face the choice of having vastly reduced rents or using part of the rent to maintain the properties to a decent standard. The latter option would attract a 'better class' of tenant and so begin the long climb back to Boscombe being the place it could and should be.

But don't hold your breathe, as long as idiotic 'starbursts' such as these continue then the council can claim 'something is being done'. And the lucrative gravy train does not get stopped.

Trebles all round, old boy !
[quote][p][bold]Yankee1[/bold] wrote: There is an unfortunate saying, made popular by Sarah Palin: 'You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.' Crumbs. Like a broken clock, she is correct once a day. Do you want to 'fix' Boscombe? Then adopt a 'zero tolerance' policy toward drugs and alcohol abuse. Stop coddling those with a weakness to opting out of society and opting into a 'soft' system. Be done with it. Read up on 'Rudy Giuliani'. And adopt Zero Tolerance.[/p][/quote]err, the qoute was actually ABOUT Sarah Palin, but the sentiment remains the same. However the 'zero tolerance' idiocy has all the grasp on reality as that dimwitted air head has. You will not stop addicts using drink and drugs. As to Guillani I would suggest you read up on him, behind them myths and headlines that is. The seperate and highly in depth studies by Andrew Karmen and by Wayne Barret will expose the hype for what it is ... hype. What should be understood is that these flawed initiatives are as much part of the problem as ever they are an answer. they are merely attempting to deal with the effects rather than the cause. The 'bull in the china shop' does not need better glue to try and patch up the broken bits of crockery - it needs the bull taken out. It's as simple as that. Remove the incentives for landlords to house addicts in slum housing. Get the council to pay the true worth of these slums and NOT the maximum allowance possible. Landlords would then face the choice of having vastly reduced rents or using part of the rent to maintain the properties to a decent standard. The latter option would attract a 'better class' of tenant and so begin the long climb back to Boscombe being the place it could and should be. But don't hold your breathe, as long as idiotic 'starbursts' such as these continue then the council can claim 'something is being done'. And the lucrative gravy train does not get stopped. Trebles all round, old boy ! Bob49
  • Score: 3

7:45pm Sat 3 May 14

Bob49 says...

SympatheticSam wrote:
Scum breeds scum. They all live in Boscum. Anyone with a drug addiction should be sterilised and any kids taken away. Job done.
I think many on here my be more concerned with the effect not taking their medication has on some poor folk
[quote][p][bold]SympatheticSam[/bold] wrote: Scum breeds scum. They all live in Boscum. Anyone with a drug addiction should be sterilised and any kids taken away. Job done.[/p][/quote]I think many on here my be more concerned with the effect not taking their medication has on some poor folk Bob49
  • Score: 2

7:55pm Sat 3 May 14

Richard 1976 says...

Wow, a permenant socket for a christmas tree. An essential part of the scheme I'm sure.
Wow, a permenant socket for a christmas tree. An essential part of the scheme I'm sure. Richard 1976
  • Score: 13

8:29pm Sat 3 May 14

Old Colonial says...

"The Crescent, which is at the heart of one of the most deprived areas in the south west region,"

For heavens sake, could somebody please explain just what the area is supposed to be deprived of? Shelter, clean water supply, lack of educational opportunities?
"The Crescent, which is at the heart of one of the most deprived areas in the south west region," For heavens sake, could somebody please explain just what the area is supposed to be deprived of? Shelter, clean water supply, lack of educational opportunities? Old Colonial
  • Score: 6

8:34pm Sat 3 May 14

Bob49 says...

Old Colonial wrote:
"The Crescent, which is at the heart of one of the most deprived areas in the south west region,"

For heavens sake, could somebody please explain just what the area is supposed to be deprived of? Shelter, clean water supply, lack of educational opportunities?
sensible ideas
[quote][p][bold]Old Colonial[/bold] wrote: "The Crescent, which is at the heart of one of the most deprived areas in the south west region," For heavens sake, could somebody please explain just what the area is supposed to be deprived of? Shelter, clean water supply, lack of educational opportunities?[/p][/quote]sensible ideas Bob49
  • Score: 9

8:58pm Sat 3 May 14

Judaas says...

Money could have been better spent -
My road needs a makeover but I don't think we would get 25p let alone £1.25p - £125k is unreal.
This world has gone crazy - who made this decision?
Money could have been better spent - My road needs a makeover but I don't think we would get 25p let alone £1.25p - £125k is unreal. This world has gone crazy - who made this decision? Judaas
  • Score: 7

12:54am Sun 4 May 14

old buffer says...

Nice try but just who has 'long awaited' this makeover? If I wanted space for my kids to play outdoors this would not be top (or even bottom) of my list. It is not a park by any stretch of the imagination and the beach is just down the road. Who needs the noise and smell of constant traffic and a view of empty, dilapidated shops and bedsits whilst having their picnic?
Nice try but just who has 'long awaited' this makeover? If I wanted space for my kids to play outdoors this would not be top (or even bottom) of my list. It is not a park by any stretch of the imagination and the beach is just down the road. Who needs the noise and smell of constant traffic and a view of empty, dilapidated shops and bedsits whilst having their picnic? old buffer
  • Score: 14

3:10am Sun 4 May 14

Chris@Bmouth says...

Judaas wrote:
Money could have been better spent -
My road needs a makeover but I don't think we would get 25p let alone £1.25p - £125k is unreal.
This world has gone crazy - who made this decision?
125k is maybe a lot of money to you, but not to the council. The area needed a cleanup so stop with the same rant of...'if only they spent it elsewhere'....they would only sink it on a bicycle program....
[quote][p][bold]Judaas[/bold] wrote: Money could have been better spent - My road needs a makeover but I don't think we would get 25p let alone £1.25p - £125k is unreal. This world has gone crazy - who made this decision?[/p][/quote]125k is maybe a lot of money to you, but not to the council. The area needed a cleanup so stop with the same rant of...'if only they spent it elsewhere'....they would only sink it on a bicycle program.... Chris@Bmouth
  • Score: 1

5:52am Sun 4 May 14

Ginny nz says...

I'm sure it will soon be filled with the drunk and the homeless as it was when I was growing up in Bournemouth . Hopefully not a waste of tax payers money !!
I'm sure it will soon be filled with the drunk and the homeless as it was when I was growing up in Bournemouth . Hopefully not a waste of tax payers money !! Ginny nz
  • Score: 11

9:14am Sun 4 May 14

jinglebell says...

Old Colonial wrote:
"The Crescent, which is at the heart of one of the most deprived areas in the south west region,"

For heavens sake, could somebody please explain just what the area is supposed to be deprived of? Shelter, clean water supply, lack of educational opportunities?
According to government statistics Boscombe is the most - not one of the most - but the most deprived community in the entire South West. What catagorises deprivation in the UK cannot be compared to deprivation, for example, in India or Africa or America or anywhere.
The majority of people living or working in Boscombe and those that live in Bournemouth - and know Boscombe - are very aware that the Council's failure to compel landlords to improve properties is at the heart of its problems. Whilst rogue landlords make vast sums of money out of slum properties with the Council paying top dollar for them, Boscombe will never improve.
The Council are also hand in glove with various other agencies such as Bournemouth Churches Housing, who make millions from those suffering from drug and alcohol addiction in Boscombe. The Council have failed for 50 years now to improve Boscombe - not because they are too stupid to understand what needs to be done - but because they are hand in glove with those who are making money from poverty.
The old saying, "Where there's muck, there's money." should be B'mth Council's motto.....certainly they live up to it with their 1/2 a century of failure to improve the area.
Absurdly, the Council are still arrogant enough to image that a few photo opportunities with a Tardis or flowers will assure voters they are fulfilling their civil duty toward the Boscombe electorate....
[quote][p][bold]Old Colonial[/bold] wrote: "The Crescent, which is at the heart of one of the most deprived areas in the south west region," For heavens sake, could somebody please explain just what the area is supposed to be deprived of? Shelter, clean water supply, lack of educational opportunities?[/p][/quote]According to government statistics Boscombe is the most - not one of the most - but the most deprived community in the entire South West. What catagorises deprivation in the UK cannot be compared to deprivation, for example, in India or Africa or America or anywhere. The majority of people living or working in Boscombe and those that live in Bournemouth - and know Boscombe - are very aware that the Council's failure to compel landlords to improve properties is at the heart of its problems. Whilst rogue landlords make vast sums of money out of slum properties with the Council paying top dollar for them, Boscombe will never improve. The Council are also hand in glove with various other agencies such as Bournemouth Churches Housing, who make millions from those suffering from drug and alcohol addiction in Boscombe. The Council have failed for 50 years now to improve Boscombe - not because they are too stupid to understand what needs to be done - but because they are hand in glove with those who are making money from poverty. The old saying, "Where there's muck, there's money." should be B'mth Council's motto.....certainly they live up to it with their 1/2 a century of failure to improve the area. Absurdly, the Council are still arrogant enough to image that a few photo opportunities with a Tardis or flowers will assure voters they are fulfilling their civil duty toward the Boscombe electorate.... jinglebell
  • Score: 13

10:31am Sun 4 May 14

Azphreal says...

As many other posters have pointed out the council are hand in glove with some people who are making disgusting amounts of money from renting out poor properties in the area,so landlords are happy to put anyone in them. We all know about one company that the council are hand in glove with and they even send people to it but where are the checks on the properties? I know of one building owned by a private landlord that has windows that leak around the glass,windows with no catches that you can feel the wind blowing around the edges,all the fire extinguishers have been fired off,the secure front door is left open as it does not fit the doorway and when you contact the landlord nothing is done but the council are still happy to pay them.
As many other posters have pointed out the council are hand in glove with some people who are making disgusting amounts of money from renting out poor properties in the area,so landlords are happy to put anyone in them. We all know about one company that the council are hand in glove with and they even send people to it but where are the checks on the properties? I know of one building owned by a private landlord that has windows that leak around the glass,windows with no catches that you can feel the wind blowing around the edges,all the fire extinguishers have been fired off,the secure front door is left open as it does not fit the doorway and when you contact the landlord nothing is done but the council are still happy to pay them. Azphreal
  • Score: 11

10:45am Sun 4 May 14

muscliffman says...

jinglebell wrote:
Old Colonial wrote:
"The Crescent, which is at the heart of one of the most deprived areas in the south west region,"

For heavens sake, could somebody please explain just what the area is supposed to be deprived of? Shelter, clean water supply, lack of educational opportunities?
According to government statistics Boscombe is the most - not one of the most - but the most deprived community in the entire South West. What catagorises deprivation in the UK cannot be compared to deprivation, for example, in India or Africa or America or anywhere.
The majority of people living or working in Boscombe and those that live in Bournemouth - and know Boscombe - are very aware that the Council's failure to compel landlords to improve properties is at the heart of its problems. Whilst rogue landlords make vast sums of money out of slum properties with the Council paying top dollar for them, Boscombe will never improve.
The Council are also hand in glove with various other agencies such as Bournemouth Churches Housing, who make millions from those suffering from drug and alcohol addiction in Boscombe. The Council have failed for 50 years now to improve Boscombe - not because they are too stupid to understand what needs to be done - but because they are hand in glove with those who are making money from poverty.
The old saying, "Where there's muck, there's money." should be B'mth Council's motto.....certainly they live up to it with their 1/2 a century of failure to improve the area.
Absurdly, the Council are still arrogant enough to image that a few photo opportunities with a Tardis or flowers will assure voters they are fulfilling their civil duty toward the Boscombe electorate....
Well explained and exactly what others have been suggesting for some time, where there is a will there IS a way. And as far a Boscombe is concerned there is NO will from this Council or indeed some of the other public Agencies to improve things because their interests and close connections are the very ones doing extremely nicely from leaving Boscombe in exactly the appalling state it is currently in. The unspoken official policy on Boscombe appears to be to ensure things remain precisely as they are whilst providing plenty of pointless but expensive window dressing 'projects' to suggest the exact opposite to a gullible public.

The situation is probably ethically, morally and even legally criminal, but what can we do about it for so long as voters keep blindly reinstating the old Town Hall 'establishment'?
[quote][p][bold]jinglebell[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Old Colonial[/bold] wrote: "The Crescent, which is at the heart of one of the most deprived areas in the south west region," For heavens sake, could somebody please explain just what the area is supposed to be deprived of? Shelter, clean water supply, lack of educational opportunities?[/p][/quote]According to government statistics Boscombe is the most - not one of the most - but the most deprived community in the entire South West. What catagorises deprivation in the UK cannot be compared to deprivation, for example, in India or Africa or America or anywhere. The majority of people living or working in Boscombe and those that live in Bournemouth - and know Boscombe - are very aware that the Council's failure to compel landlords to improve properties is at the heart of its problems. Whilst rogue landlords make vast sums of money out of slum properties with the Council paying top dollar for them, Boscombe will never improve. The Council are also hand in glove with various other agencies such as Bournemouth Churches Housing, who make millions from those suffering from drug and alcohol addiction in Boscombe. The Council have failed for 50 years now to improve Boscombe - not because they are too stupid to understand what needs to be done - but because they are hand in glove with those who are making money from poverty. The old saying, "Where there's muck, there's money." should be B'mth Council's motto.....certainly they live up to it with their 1/2 a century of failure to improve the area. Absurdly, the Council are still arrogant enough to image that a few photo opportunities with a Tardis or flowers will assure voters they are fulfilling their civil duty toward the Boscombe electorate....[/p][/quote]Well explained and exactly what others have been suggesting for some time, where there is a will there IS a way. And as far a Boscombe is concerned there is NO will from this Council or indeed some of the other public Agencies to improve things because their interests and close connections are the very ones doing extremely nicely from leaving Boscombe in exactly the appalling state it is currently in. The unspoken official policy on Boscombe appears to be to ensure things remain precisely as they are whilst providing plenty of pointless but expensive window dressing 'projects' to suggest the exact opposite to a gullible public. The situation is probably ethically, morally and even legally criminal, but what can we do about it for so long as voters keep blindly reinstating the old Town Hall 'establishment'? muscliffman
  • Score: 10

10:46am Sun 4 May 14

rozmister says...

Bob49 wrote:
bosco1 wrote:
Lets hope our thoughts are wrong and the place will stay and look decent for many years to come, alot of money and time has been spent on this project and thanks to all those people involved.I hope the area is monitored and as the above reader said get rid of the undesirables before they make this a new venue.!!
err, you haven't quite gfrasped this have you

it is the 'undesirables' that make Boscombe such a money spinner ie maximum rent (Hiousing Benefit) for minimum housing (squalid slums) they are hardly likely to get rid of them, are they ?

Iif there was any thought of improving the area the council would start with requiring landlords to keep the gardens and outside of the properties clean and tidy, why not ask yourself why this has not been done

given this lucrative money spinner the majority who live close by are undesirables, so what has been achieved ?

a charade that supposedly let's the council off the hook in regard to the above scam, and if it fools any more folk than then not only has it done it's job but signifies that nothing serious will ever be done, because there is actually NO INTENT WHATSOEVER to stop this 'nice little earner'
The council can't compel people to keep their gardens 'tidy'. Legislation only covers intervention when private land poses a health risk rather than looks a bit rubbish.

I agree full rent shouldn't be paid for substandard accommodation.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bosco1[/bold] wrote: Lets hope our thoughts are wrong and the place will stay and look decent for many years to come, alot of money and time has been spent on this project and thanks to all those people involved.I hope the area is monitored and as the above reader said get rid of the undesirables before they make this a new venue.!![/p][/quote]err, you haven't quite gfrasped this have you it is the 'undesirables' that make Boscombe such a money spinner ie maximum rent (Hiousing Benefit) for minimum housing (squalid slums) they are hardly likely to get rid of them, are they ? Iif there was any thought of improving the area the council would start with requiring landlords to keep the gardens and outside of the properties clean and tidy, why not ask yourself why this has not been done given this lucrative money spinner the majority who live close by are undesirables, so what has been achieved ? a charade that supposedly let's the council off the hook in regard to the above scam, and if it fools any more folk than then not only has it done it's job but signifies that nothing serious will ever be done, because there is actually NO INTENT WHATSOEVER to stop this 'nice little earner'[/p][/quote]The council can't compel people to keep their gardens 'tidy'. Legislation only covers intervention when private land poses a health risk rather than looks a bit rubbish. I agree full rent shouldn't be paid for substandard accommodation. rozmister
  • Score: 6

12:18pm Sun 4 May 14

Mamma Troll says...

That looks like a B&Q makeover.Did the council get oap discount?
That looks like a B&Q makeover.Did the council get oap discount? Mamma Troll
  • Score: 4

3:49pm Sun 4 May 14

BIGTONE says...

blakieboy7 wrote:
You can roll a turd in glitter.......
It depends how wet it is......
[quote][p][bold]blakieboy7[/bold] wrote: You can roll a turd in glitter.......[/p][/quote]It depends how wet it is...... BIGTONE
  • Score: 1

5:57pm Sun 4 May 14

Yankee1 says...

Bob49 wrote:
Yankee1 wrote:
There is an unfortunate saying, made popular by Sarah Palin:

'You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.'

Crumbs. Like a broken clock, she is correct once a day.

Do you want to 'fix' Boscombe? Then adopt a 'zero tolerance' policy toward drugs and alcohol abuse. Stop coddling those with a weakness to opting out of society and opting into a 'soft' system. Be done with it.

Read up on 'Rudy Giuliani'. And adopt Zero Tolerance.
err, the qoute was actually ABOUT Sarah Palin, but the sentiment remains the same.

However the 'zero tolerance' idiocy has all the grasp on reality as that dimwitted air head has. You will not stop addicts using drink and drugs. As to Guillani I would suggest you read up on him, behind them myths and headlines that is. The seperate and highly in depth studies by Andrew Karmen and by Wayne Barret will expose the hype for what it is ... hype.

What should be understood is that these flawed initiatives are as much part of the problem as ever they are an answer. they are merely attempting to deal with the effects rather than the cause.

The 'bull in the china shop' does not need better glue to try and patch up the broken bits of crockery - it needs the bull taken out. It's as simple as that.

Remove the incentives for landlords to house addicts in slum housing. Get the council to pay the true worth of these slums and NOT the maximum allowance possible. Landlords would then face the choice of having vastly reduced rents or using part of the rent to maintain the properties to a decent standard. The latter option would attract a 'better class' of tenant and so begin the long climb back to Boscombe being the place it could and should be.

But don't hold your breathe, as long as idiotic 'starbursts' such as these continue then the council can claim 'something is being done'. And the lucrative gravy train does not get stopped.

Trebles all round, old boy !
Are you buying?

The simple truth is these misfits will continue to be coddled. until there is a sea change in thinking. It is a national issue. Boscombe is quite tame, compared to other places.

The best thing to come out of Boscombe in the last 30 years?

Alex James.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yankee1[/bold] wrote: There is an unfortunate saying, made popular by Sarah Palin: 'You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.' Crumbs. Like a broken clock, she is correct once a day. Do you want to 'fix' Boscombe? Then adopt a 'zero tolerance' policy toward drugs and alcohol abuse. Stop coddling those with a weakness to opting out of society and opting into a 'soft' system. Be done with it. Read up on 'Rudy Giuliani'. And adopt Zero Tolerance.[/p][/quote]err, the qoute was actually ABOUT Sarah Palin, but the sentiment remains the same. However the 'zero tolerance' idiocy has all the grasp on reality as that dimwitted air head has. You will not stop addicts using drink and drugs. As to Guillani I would suggest you read up on him, behind them myths and headlines that is. The seperate and highly in depth studies by Andrew Karmen and by Wayne Barret will expose the hype for what it is ... hype. What should be understood is that these flawed initiatives are as much part of the problem as ever they are an answer. they are merely attempting to deal with the effects rather than the cause. The 'bull in the china shop' does not need better glue to try and patch up the broken bits of crockery - it needs the bull taken out. It's as simple as that. Remove the incentives for landlords to house addicts in slum housing. Get the council to pay the true worth of these slums and NOT the maximum allowance possible. Landlords would then face the choice of having vastly reduced rents or using part of the rent to maintain the properties to a decent standard. The latter option would attract a 'better class' of tenant and so begin the long climb back to Boscombe being the place it could and should be. But don't hold your breathe, as long as idiotic 'starbursts' such as these continue then the council can claim 'something is being done'. And the lucrative gravy train does not get stopped. Trebles all round, old boy ![/p][/quote]Are you buying? The simple truth is these misfits will continue to be coddled. until there is a sea change in thinking. It is a national issue. Boscombe is quite tame, compared to other places. The best thing to come out of Boscombe in the last 30 years? Alex James. Yankee1
  • Score: -5

6:21pm Sun 4 May 14

Bob49 says...

"Are you buying?

The simple truth is these misfits will continue to be coddled. until there is a sea change in thinking. It is a national issue. Boscombe is quite tame, compared to other places."


eh ?

What's a national issue. Is it a set of commemerative stamps ?

The problem is not one of those with drug and alcohol addictions, but greedy landlords addiction to money. Remove the latter and the former will be dispersed and not concentrated in this part of the country.

As long as landlords are paid maximum housing benefit for slum housing then they will seek to bring in tenants who care little for where they live, nor have the means or wit to expect and demand better.

Cut the handoiuts to the landlords and you begin to end the problem.
"Are you buying? The simple truth is these misfits will continue to be coddled. until there is a sea change in thinking. It is a national issue. Boscombe is quite tame, compared to other places." eh ? What's a national issue. Is it a set of commemerative stamps ? The problem is not one of those with drug and alcohol addictions, but greedy landlords addiction to money. Remove the latter and the former will be dispersed and not concentrated in this part of the country. As long as landlords are paid maximum housing benefit for slum housing then they will seek to bring in tenants who care little for where they live, nor have the means or wit to expect and demand better. Cut the handoiuts to the landlords and you begin to end the problem. Bob49
  • Score: 5

8:12pm Sun 4 May 14

oldfashionedvalueschick says...

GeorgeW64 wrote:
It will soon look like part of the old Boscombe when all the staffy owners let their dogs dig holes all over the freshly laid turf while they sit on the benches asking passers by if they got a fag paper or 50p for the phone. It does look nice but what a waste of time until you get shot of the undesirables.
I agree with the above comment. I love the new look crescent and anything that can be done to improve the look of the area is good for everyone, but already I have seen a woman letting her dog poo on the grass..ok, pooper scooping it in a bag but if all dog owners are allowed to do the same, poo leaves a stain and a stench. Dog owners have to be made to be more considerate to others. If you own a dog, dispose of its waste in YOUR yard!!!
[quote][p][bold]GeorgeW64[/bold] wrote: It will soon look like part of the old Boscombe when all the staffy owners let their dogs dig holes all over the freshly laid turf while they sit on the benches asking passers by if they got a fag paper or 50p for the phone. It does look nice but what a waste of time until you get shot of the undesirables.[/p][/quote]I agree with the above comment. I love the new look crescent and anything that can be done to improve the look of the area is good for everyone, but already I have seen a woman letting her dog poo on the grass..ok, pooper scooping it in a bag but if all dog owners are allowed to do the same, poo leaves a stain and a stench. Dog owners have to be made to be more considerate to others. If you own a dog, dispose of its waste in YOUR yard!!! oldfashionedvalueschick
  • Score: 0

9:20pm Sun 4 May 14

nevernever says...

Talking about HMO's ,I notice there is a new landlord up coming that will equal the old renown landlord !!!
Talking about HMO's ,I notice there is a new landlord up coming that will equal the old renown landlord !!! nevernever
  • Score: 4

1:45pm Mon 5 May 14

Rally says...

SympatheticSam wrote:
Even if it stays looking nice, no one who cares will see it. Boscum is vile. So is everyone who inhabits the hole. Just knock it all down, and build a carpark. Oh Mr Mitchell....
There's only one word for the vile views expressed by SympatheticSam and like-minded fools - Nazism.
[quote][p][bold]SympatheticSam[/bold] wrote: Even if it stays looking nice, no one who cares will see it. Boscum is vile. So is everyone who inhabits the hole. Just knock it all down, and build a carpark. Oh Mr Mitchell....[/p][/quote]There's only one word for the vile views expressed by SympatheticSam and like-minded fools - Nazism. Rally
  • Score: 0

4:39pm Mon 5 May 14

mikeymagic says...

Lipstick on a pig. Still a pig!
Lipstick on a pig. Still a pig! mikeymagic
  • Score: 1

4:45pm Mon 5 May 14

mikeymagic says...

oldfashionedvaluesch
ick
wrote:
GeorgeW64 wrote:
It will soon look like part of the old Boscombe when all the staffy owners let their dogs dig holes all over the freshly laid turf while they sit on the benches asking passers by if they got a fag paper or 50p for the phone. It does look nice but what a waste of time until you get shot of the undesirables.
I agree with the above comment. I love the new look crescent and anything that can be done to improve the look of the area is good for everyone, but already I have seen a woman letting her dog poo on the grass..ok, pooper scooping it in a bag but if all dog owners are allowed to do the same, poo leaves a stain and a stench. Dog owners have to be made to be more considerate to others. If you own a dog, dispose of its waste in YOUR yard!!!
Makes me sad that you have to reference staffs. I own 2 staffs and they don't cause any trouble at all. It''s the muppet at the other end of the lead that's problem. Having said that, I ares generally with your comments.
[quote][p][bold]oldfashionedvaluesch ick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GeorgeW64[/bold] wrote: It will soon look like part of the old Boscombe when all the staffy owners let their dogs dig holes all over the freshly laid turf while they sit on the benches asking passers by if they got a fag paper or 50p for the phone. It does look nice but what a waste of time until you get shot of the undesirables.[/p][/quote]I agree with the above comment. I love the new look crescent and anything that can be done to improve the look of the area is good for everyone, but already I have seen a woman letting her dog poo on the grass..ok, pooper scooping it in a bag but if all dog owners are allowed to do the same, poo leaves a stain and a stench. Dog owners have to be made to be more considerate to others. If you own a dog, dispose of its waste in YOUR yard!!![/p][/quote]Makes me sad that you have to reference staffs. I own 2 staffs and they don't cause any trouble at all. It''s the muppet at the other end of the lead that's problem. Having said that, I ares generally with your comments. mikeymagic
  • Score: -2

8:36pm Mon 5 May 14

SympatheticSam says...

Ha. You're worrying about dog crap?! How about drug abuse in broad daylight in front of families, needles left on the ground amd prostitution all over the place? Get a grip. Nuke the place.
Ha. You're worrying about dog crap?! How about drug abuse in broad daylight in front of families, needles left on the ground amd prostitution all over the place? Get a grip. Nuke the place. SympatheticSam
  • Score: 1

11:24pm Mon 5 May 14

Understated says...

you can't polish a boscombe.
you can't polish a boscombe. Understated
  • Score: 0

11:08am Thu 8 May 14

speedy231278 says...

More turd polishing. Perhaps there's going to be a BDC development in the area shortly? At least this one only cost £125K rather than £850K.
More turd polishing. Perhaps there's going to be a BDC development in the area shortly? At least this one only cost £125K rather than £850K. speedy231278
  • Score: 0

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