Toilet closures are a “debacle” say residents

SHUT: Jubilee Road toilets

SHUT: Jubilee Road toilets

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RESIDENTS, traders and local councillors have united to call for a u-turn on a toilet closure in Poole.

Shutting the Jubilee Road public loos has been a “debacle” because there are few alternatives along the length of Ashley Road, says Cllr Brian Clements.

He has submitted a motion to the next full meeting of Borough of Poole on September 23, calling for the Community Toilet Scheme in the area to be overturned and the Jubilee Road loos refurbished and reopened.

“The February council was advised that it would not ‘go live’ until six premises were participating in the scheme but that has never been achieved. Traders have lost confidence and we risk damage to the area as a shopping centre due to adverse publicity,” he said.

Daphne Long, a former Poole councillor, has complained that alternative shop toilets are not wheelchair friendly and “failed at the first hurdle”, with the exception of Waitrose, which is not open 24 hours a day.

Four originally signed up to the scheme, however now only three remain, one of which is well outside the main shopping area.

Resident Jeff Williams said there were no toilets in the central area of Ashley Road or near the car parks. “And that, as we know locally, has led to many members of the public using alleyways, shrub areas and service areas.” He is calling for a modern pay-to-use block.

Branksome West ward member, Cllr Marion Le Poidevin said: “People are going in and asking to use toilets of shops that are not in the scheme. Many are feeling upset by it.”

Staff toilets were often in stock rooms, up or down stairs and often not suitable for public use, she said. “It works in Broadstone where they have five places, we have essentially got two.”

Liberal Democrat councillors have organised a petition which is now in several shops.

Councillor Xena Dion, cabinet portfolio holder for a Prosperous and Sustainable Poole, said: “I believe the facilities being provided through the community toilet scheme offer a much better service to local people.

“The toilets available are fit for purpose and well maintained as well as being open later in the evening.

“There are no funds available to refurbish these toilets and savings were identified and approved at full council in December which has led us to this point. We are planning to move forward with the demolition of the deteriorating toilet block so any motion to council will need to be debated at the earliest opportunity.”

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7:13am Thu 7 Aug 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Submitted a, motion.was the pun intended
Submitted a, motion.was the pun intended kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 13

7:20am Thu 7 Aug 14

sea poole says...

Cllr Dion, There may be no funds available to refurbish the toilets and leave honest tax payers without these facilities, but you're so quick to provide toilet facilities to travellers who contribute NO taxes to the local economy...Honestly you do talk some utter nonsense Cllr Dion. Wonder if you'd be as quick to close toilet facilities within your own ward, especially as there's an election looming next year...
Cllr Dion, There may be no funds available to refurbish the toilets and leave honest tax payers without these facilities, but you're so quick to provide toilet facilities to travellers who contribute NO taxes to the local economy...Honestly you do talk some utter nonsense Cllr Dion. Wonder if you'd be as quick to close toilet facilities within your own ward, especially as there's an election looming next year... sea poole
  • Score: 54

8:02am Thu 7 Aug 14

Hessenford says...

If all councils spent their time and money providing facilities for the genuine tax payers of this country rather than jump through hoops to provide services for travelers who give nothing to the community except grief perhaps there would be more money in the kitty. or perhaps, taking a cynical view, this could be another revenue raiser for the council, remove local toilets and then fine people for having a pee against a wall somewhere.
If all councils spent their time and money providing facilities for the genuine tax payers of this country rather than jump through hoops to provide services for travelers who give nothing to the community except grief perhaps there would be more money in the kitty. or perhaps, taking a cynical view, this could be another revenue raiser for the council, remove local toilets and then fine people for having a pee against a wall somewhere. Hessenford
  • Score: 30

8:27am Thu 7 Aug 14

Azphreal says...

'He has submitted a motion' sorry but that made me spit my coffee out lol. Why are councils hell bent on shutting public toilets and expecting private companies to supply them?
'He has submitted a motion' sorry but that made me spit my coffee out lol. Why are councils hell bent on shutting public toilets and expecting private companies to supply them? Azphreal
  • Score: 17

8:56am Thu 7 Aug 14

Quakers2 says...

Leaving the valid travellers comparisons to one side I believe the Council pay shop owners, pubs, churches, cafes etc to open their toilets t the public. There should be no reason why such facilities cannot be found along Ashley Road. I suspect this is another example of a few old duffers who cannot be bothered to make a change with a few politicians jumping on the bandwagon for a few cheap votes. If Jeff Williams is involved then this is certainly the case. Why not put this energy towards finding a more sustainable solution for all?
Now, where have those messy Turlin Moor travellers moved to - anyone found them yet? Have they been evicted?
Leaving the valid travellers comparisons to one side I believe the Council pay shop owners, pubs, churches, cafes etc to open their toilets t the public. There should be no reason why such facilities cannot be found along Ashley Road. I suspect this is another example of a few old duffers who cannot be bothered to make a change with a few politicians jumping on the bandwagon for a few cheap votes. If Jeff Williams is involved then this is certainly the case. Why not put this energy towards finding a more sustainable solution for all? Now, where have those messy Turlin Moor travellers moved to - anyone found them yet? Have they been evicted? Quakers2
  • Score: -9

9:05am Thu 7 Aug 14

Hessenford says...

Quakers2 wrote:
Leaving the valid travellers comparisons to one side I believe the Council pay shop owners, pubs, churches, cafes etc to open their toilets t the public. There should be no reason why such facilities cannot be found along Ashley Road. I suspect this is another example of a few old duffers who cannot be bothered to make a change with a few politicians jumping on the bandwagon for a few cheap votes. If Jeff Williams is involved then this is certainly the case. Why not put this energy towards finding a more sustainable solution for all?
Now, where have those messy Turlin Moor travellers moved to - anyone found them yet? Have they been evicted?
And what are people of all ages supposed to do when the shops are shut, I expect you would be the first to moan when someone decides to relieve themselves against the side of your house.
[quote][p][bold]Quakers2[/bold] wrote: Leaving the valid travellers comparisons to one side I believe the Council pay shop owners, pubs, churches, cafes etc to open their toilets t the public. There should be no reason why such facilities cannot be found along Ashley Road. I suspect this is another example of a few old duffers who cannot be bothered to make a change with a few politicians jumping on the bandwagon for a few cheap votes. If Jeff Williams is involved then this is certainly the case. Why not put this energy towards finding a more sustainable solution for all? Now, where have those messy Turlin Moor travellers moved to - anyone found them yet? Have they been evicted?[/p][/quote]And what are people of all ages supposed to do when the shops are shut, I expect you would be the first to moan when someone decides to relieve themselves against the side of your house. Hessenford
  • Score: 12

9:16am Thu 7 Aug 14

Quakers2 says...

Hessenford wrote:
Quakers2 wrote:
Leaving the valid travellers comparisons to one side I believe the Council pay shop owners, pubs, churches, cafes etc to open their toilets t the public. There should be no reason why such facilities cannot be found along Ashley Road. I suspect this is another example of a few old duffers who cannot be bothered to make a change with a few politicians jumping on the bandwagon for a few cheap votes. If Jeff Williams is involved then this is certainly the case. Why not put this energy towards finding a more sustainable solution for all?
Now, where have those messy Turlin Moor travellers moved to - anyone found them yet? Have they been evicted?
And what are people of all ages supposed to do when the shops are shut, I expect you would be the first to moan when someone decides to relieve themselves against the side of your house.
The same a grown ups do in every other street, town, city. Or are you proposing the Council opens more blocks for at massive expense to accommodate the calls of nature? I'd rather have a pool of **** than a toilet block used by pervs and druggies on my doorstep.
PS - I have found the travellers - lucky Baiter residents again!
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quakers2[/bold] wrote: Leaving the valid travellers comparisons to one side I believe the Council pay shop owners, pubs, churches, cafes etc to open their toilets t the public. There should be no reason why such facilities cannot be found along Ashley Road. I suspect this is another example of a few old duffers who cannot be bothered to make a change with a few politicians jumping on the bandwagon for a few cheap votes. If Jeff Williams is involved then this is certainly the case. Why not put this energy towards finding a more sustainable solution for all? Now, where have those messy Turlin Moor travellers moved to - anyone found them yet? Have they been evicted?[/p][/quote]And what are people of all ages supposed to do when the shops are shut, I expect you would be the first to moan when someone decides to relieve themselves against the side of your house.[/p][/quote]The same a grown ups do in every other street, town, city. Or are you proposing the Council opens more blocks for at massive expense to accommodate the calls of nature? I'd rather have a pool of **** than a toilet block used by pervs and druggies on my doorstep. PS - I have found the travellers - lucky Baiter residents again! Quakers2
  • Score: -13

9:18am Thu 7 Aug 14

smhinto says...

Then I suppose the powers that be will wondering why complaints will rise concerning drunks and dysfunctional lunatics urinating and possibly defacating in shop door ways along Ashley Road.
Then I suppose the powers that be will wondering why complaints will rise concerning drunks and dysfunctional lunatics urinating and possibly defacating in shop door ways along Ashley Road. smhinto
  • Score: 7

9:20am Thu 7 Aug 14

lilliputian says...

'No funds to refurbish these toilets' says Cllr Dion.......yet unlimited funds to provide toilets for "travellers" whenever and wherever they pitch up. Would this ever more ridiculous Councillor explain her illogical stance?
'No funds to refurbish these toilets' says Cllr Dion.......yet unlimited funds to provide toilets for "travellers" whenever and wherever they pitch up. Would this ever more ridiculous Councillor explain her illogical stance? lilliputian
  • Score: 15

9:36am Thu 7 Aug 14

Hessenford says...

Quakers2 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Quakers2 wrote:
Leaving the valid travellers comparisons to one side I believe the Council pay shop owners, pubs, churches, cafes etc to open their toilets t the public. There should be no reason why such facilities cannot be found along Ashley Road. I suspect this is another example of a few old duffers who cannot be bothered to make a change with a few politicians jumping on the bandwagon for a few cheap votes. If Jeff Williams is involved then this is certainly the case. Why not put this energy towards finding a more sustainable solution for all?
Now, where have those messy Turlin Moor travellers moved to - anyone found them yet? Have they been evicted?
And what are people of all ages supposed to do when the shops are shut, I expect you would be the first to moan when someone decides to relieve themselves against the side of your house.
The same a grown ups do in every other street, town, city. Or are you proposing the Council opens more blocks for at massive expense to accommodate the calls of nature? I'd rather have a pool of **** than a toilet block used by pervs and druggies on my doorstep.
PS - I have found the travellers - lucky Baiter residents again!
Public toilets are not normally on your doorstep their normally in high streets and shopping centers when there is a certain amount of night life, its human nature to have to pee and crap, if councils don't want this stuff littering the streets its their responsibility to provide facilities to use.
[quote][p][bold]Quakers2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quakers2[/bold] wrote: Leaving the valid travellers comparisons to one side I believe the Council pay shop owners, pubs, churches, cafes etc to open their toilets t the public. There should be no reason why such facilities cannot be found along Ashley Road. I suspect this is another example of a few old duffers who cannot be bothered to make a change with a few politicians jumping on the bandwagon for a few cheap votes. If Jeff Williams is involved then this is certainly the case. Why not put this energy towards finding a more sustainable solution for all? Now, where have those messy Turlin Moor travellers moved to - anyone found them yet? Have they been evicted?[/p][/quote]And what are people of all ages supposed to do when the shops are shut, I expect you would be the first to moan when someone decides to relieve themselves against the side of your house.[/p][/quote]The same a grown ups do in every other street, town, city. Or are you proposing the Council opens more blocks for at massive expense to accommodate the calls of nature? I'd rather have a pool of **** than a toilet block used by pervs and druggies on my doorstep. PS - I have found the travellers - lucky Baiter residents again![/p][/quote]Public toilets are not normally on your doorstep their normally in high streets and shopping centers when there is a certain amount of night life, its human nature to have to pee and crap, if councils don't want this stuff littering the streets its their responsibility to provide facilities to use. Hessenford
  • Score: 17

1:47pm Thu 7 Aug 14

sarahinpoole says...

Quakers2 wrote:
Hessenford wrote:
Quakers2 wrote:
Leaving the valid travellers comparisons to one side I believe the Council pay shop owners, pubs, churches, cafes etc to open their toilets t the public. There should be no reason why such facilities cannot be found along Ashley Road. I suspect this is another example of a few old duffers who cannot be bothered to make a change with a few politicians jumping on the bandwagon for a few cheap votes. If Jeff Williams is involved then this is certainly the case. Why not put this energy towards finding a more sustainable solution for all?
Now, where have those messy Turlin Moor travellers moved to - anyone found them yet? Have they been evicted?
And what are people of all ages supposed to do when the shops are shut, I expect you would be the first to moan when someone decides to relieve themselves against the side of your house.
The same a grown ups do in every other street, town, city. Or are you proposing the Council opens more blocks for at massive expense to accommodate the calls of nature? I'd rather have a pool of **** than a toilet block used by pervs and druggies on my doorstep.
PS - I have found the travellers - lucky Baiter residents again!
it's not just grown ups - when my four year old has to go, she has to go. And the lack of suitable facilities are a disgrace
[quote][p][bold]Quakers2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Quakers2[/bold] wrote: Leaving the valid travellers comparisons to one side I believe the Council pay shop owners, pubs, churches, cafes etc to open their toilets t the public. There should be no reason why such facilities cannot be found along Ashley Road. I suspect this is another example of a few old duffers who cannot be bothered to make a change with a few politicians jumping on the bandwagon for a few cheap votes. If Jeff Williams is involved then this is certainly the case. Why not put this energy towards finding a more sustainable solution for all? Now, where have those messy Turlin Moor travellers moved to - anyone found them yet? Have they been evicted?[/p][/quote]And what are people of all ages supposed to do when the shops are shut, I expect you would be the first to moan when someone decides to relieve themselves against the side of your house.[/p][/quote]The same a grown ups do in every other street, town, city. Or are you proposing the Council opens more blocks for at massive expense to accommodate the calls of nature? I'd rather have a pool of **** than a toilet block used by pervs and druggies on my doorstep. PS - I have found the travellers - lucky Baiter residents again![/p][/quote]it's not just grown ups - when my four year old has to go, she has to go. And the lack of suitable facilities are a disgrace sarahinpoole
  • Score: 8

1:49pm Thu 7 Aug 14

sarahinpoole says...

Which shops are the petitions in please?
Which shops are the petitions in please? sarahinpoole
  • Score: 2

2:11pm Thu 7 Aug 14

speedy231278 says...

There's no budget because it was used to pay for portaloos for the travellers. So they've stolen our bogs as well as gawd knows what else!
There's no budget because it was used to pay for portaloos for the travellers. So they've stolen our bogs as well as gawd knows what else! speedy231278
  • Score: 4

10:54pm Thu 7 Aug 14

phonehome says...

If the Council cannot find the funds to maintain or refurbish toilets it certainly won't have enough to rebuild them when all private businesses back out of this scheme - as they certainly will given a few unpleasant incidents.
If the Council cannot find the funds to maintain or refurbish toilets it certainly won't have enough to rebuild them when all private businesses back out of this scheme - as they certainly will given a few unpleasant incidents. phonehome
  • Score: 1

1:15am Fri 8 Aug 14

504gld says...

Public toilets are now the vast amount of coffee shop chains on the high street, and the council know it.
Public toilets are now the vast amount of coffee shop chains on the high street, and the council know it. 504gld
  • Score: 1

3:26am Fri 8 Aug 14

British_Beef says...

You simply can't make this stuff up. As a local resident I'd like to thank those that made this decision and have single handedly alienated all those who are also disabled and with poor mobility. Great work!
You simply can't make this stuff up. As a local resident I'd like to thank those that made this decision and have single handedly alienated all those who are also disabled and with poor mobility. Great work! British_Beef
  • Score: 3

11:37pm Fri 8 Aug 14

RM says...

sea poole wrote:
Cllr Dion, There may be no funds available to refurbish the toilets and leave honest tax payers without these facilities, but you're so quick to provide toilet facilities to travellers who contribute NO taxes to the local economy...Honestly you do talk some utter nonsense Cllr Dion. Wonder if you'd be as quick to close toilet facilities within your own ward, especially as there's an election looming next year...
Or perhaps the 10 Poole Council employees identified by the Taxpayers Alliance as being on salaries of over £100,000 each, well over £100,000 in some cases could have a salary review as, after all, it's we Council Tax payers who pay those salaries & it's we Council Tax payers are expected to do without.
[quote][p][bold]sea poole[/bold] wrote: Cllr Dion, There may be no funds available to refurbish the toilets and leave honest tax payers without these facilities, but you're so quick to provide toilet facilities to travellers who contribute NO taxes to the local economy...Honestly you do talk some utter nonsense Cllr Dion. Wonder if you'd be as quick to close toilet facilities within your own ward, especially as there's an election looming next year...[/p][/quote]Or perhaps the 10 Poole Council employees identified by the Taxpayers Alliance as being on salaries of over £100,000 each, well over £100,000 in some cases could have a salary review as, after all, it's we Council Tax payers who pay those salaries & it's we Council Tax payers are expected to do without. RM
  • Score: 0

11:48pm Fri 8 Aug 14

RM says...

sea poole wrote:
Cllr Dion, There may be no funds available to refurbish the toilets and leave honest tax payers without these facilities, but you're so quick to provide toilet facilities to travellers who contribute NO taxes to the local economy...Honestly you do talk some utter nonsense Cllr Dion. Wonder if you'd be as quick to close toilet facilities within your own ward, especially as there's an election looming next year...
Or perhaps those 10 Poole Council employees whom the Taxpayers Alliance have identified as getting paid a salary of over £100,000 each - well over £100,000 in some cases could be called in for a salary review? After all, it's us taxpayers who pay those salaries & it's us taxpayers who are being expected to do without public toilets.
[quote][p][bold]sea poole[/bold] wrote: Cllr Dion, There may be no funds available to refurbish the toilets and leave honest tax payers without these facilities, but you're so quick to provide toilet facilities to travellers who contribute NO taxes to the local economy...Honestly you do talk some utter nonsense Cllr Dion. Wonder if you'd be as quick to close toilet facilities within your own ward, especially as there's an election looming next year...[/p][/quote]Or perhaps those 10 Poole Council employees whom the Taxpayers Alliance have identified as getting paid a salary of over £100,000 each - well over £100,000 in some cases could be called in for a salary review? After all, it's us taxpayers who pay those salaries & it's us taxpayers who are being expected to do without public toilets. RM
  • Score: 0

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