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Major changes planned for Sovereign Centre in Boscombe

Bournemouth Echo: REVAMP: The Sovereign Centre REVAMP: The Sovereign Centre

NEW Sovereign Centre manager Peter Ruscoe plans a major revamp to better meet the needs of Boscombe residents.

The centre’s owners, NewRiver Retail, recently bought the adjacent 45,000 square foot former TJ Hughes store, which has been vacant since the chain went into administration in 2011.

The company remains tight-lipped about its plans for redevelopment, although it has hinted that improvements at the similar Forum shopping centre in Wallsend, North Tyneside, might hold a clue.

Mr Ruscoe, who was previously store director at Beales in Bournemouth town centre and has managed many high street stores including Apple and House of Fraser, said the plans would involve changes throughout the centre, not just limited to the extension.

“NewRiver are looking for an anchor tenant, some other retailers and some leisure as well,” he said.

“It would be quite a transformation but these plans can take 12 to 24 months – a lot can change in that time.

“But a lot of money has been invested and the company will want to complete the development as quickly as possible.”

NewRiver invested £5million into the Forum centre redevelopment, which included transforming empty retail space into a 50,000 square foot library and community centre.

Mr Ruscoe said he hoped the changes when complete would encourage visitors into the centre and Boscombe, but that the primary focus was on serving the needs of the local community.

“We are a value shopping centre, 70 per cent of our customers are based ten minutes walk away,” he said.

“It is important we try to put ourselves in the heart of the community.

“It is great that the business community, the council the BID and others are so focussed on creating a strong community here.”

He said the centre would focus on boosting local education and healthcare by hosting events and supporting campaigns.

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5:59am Mon 30 Jun 14

Understated says...

so... suit boscombe's needs... with a library and community centre...

are they mad???
so... suit boscombe's needs... with a library and community centre... are they mad??? Understated
  • Score: 11

6:12am Mon 30 Jun 14

churchill gardens resident says...

Another 50p store then doubtful there will ever be any upmarket shopping there
Another 50p store then doubtful there will ever be any upmarket shopping there churchill gardens resident
  • Score: 15

6:29am Mon 30 Jun 14

Chris@Bmouth says...

It's good to see it's being redeveloped, but if Bournemouth town centre can only attract penny pincher stores, then I can't imagine this is going to be any better.
It's good to see it's being redeveloped, but if Bournemouth town centre can only attract penny pincher stores, then I can't imagine this is going to be any better. Chris@Bmouth
  • Score: 14

6:39am Mon 30 Jun 14

Baysider says...

Moan, moan, moan, blah, blah, blah...

It's not your money, you won't be expected to turn up with a paint brush or even forced to use it when it's finished so why do some people take such a negative view on everything? Well done to New River and I hope you are successful in your project.
Moan, moan, moan, blah, blah, blah... It's not your money, you won't be expected to turn up with a paint brush or even forced to use it when it's finished so why do some people take such a negative view on everything? Well done to New River and I hope you are successful in your project. Baysider
  • Score: 40

7:13am Mon 30 Jun 14

Lord Spring says...

I have it from a 57 sources that Harrods are interested.
I have it from a 57 sources that Harrods are interested. Lord Spring
  • Score: 10

7:14am Mon 30 Jun 14

churchill gardens resident says...

Baysider wrote:
Moan, moan, moan, blah, blah, blah...

It's not your money, you won't be expected to turn up with a paint brush or even forced to use it when it's finished so why do some people take such a negative view on everything? Well done to New River and I hope you are successful in your project.
Seems like your the only one moaning around here Baysider & living a fantasy life. Everyone else is saying how it is.. Maby you should go back down the town hall & report to your puppet masters. Go now!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: Moan, moan, moan, blah, blah, blah... It's not your money, you won't be expected to turn up with a paint brush or even forced to use it when it's finished so why do some people take such a negative view on everything? Well done to New River and I hope you are successful in your project.[/p][/quote]Seems like your the only one moaning around here Baysider & living a fantasy life. Everyone else is saying how it is.. Maby you should go back down the town hall & report to your puppet masters. Go now!!!! churchill gardens resident
  • Score: -21

7:21am Mon 30 Jun 14

Huey says...

Turn TJ Hughes into an indoor market.
Make the market traders use it instead of the high street. As it stands many traders don't turn up when it is raining.
Try to get some permanent market stalls there instead of just Thursdays and Saturdays, and attempt to attract new traders such as local farmers, like the market at Christchurch.
Get rid of the stalls selling bongs and other drug paraphernalia, I know it is Boscombe, but still...
Finally, and this is bit beyond the remit of the shopping centre, turn the high street back into a road, get rid of the pedestrianised bit. It just attracts the wrong kind of people and brings the whole area down.
Not everyone wants to stop off at Boscombe, and congestion is Christchurch road has got worse since the council installed traffic lights or restrictions on every junction from manor road to Chessel avenue.
It would mean moving the tardis, but will do a far better job at keeping the area clear.
Turn TJ Hughes into an indoor market. Make the market traders use it instead of the high street. As it stands many traders don't turn up when it is raining. Try to get some permanent market stalls there instead of just Thursdays and Saturdays, and attempt to attract new traders such as local farmers, like the market at Christchurch. Get rid of the stalls selling bongs and other drug paraphernalia, I know it is Boscombe, but still... Finally, and this is bit beyond the remit of the shopping centre, turn the high street back into a road, get rid of the pedestrianised bit. It just attracts the wrong kind of people and brings the whole area down. Not everyone wants to stop off at Boscombe, and congestion is Christchurch road has got worse since the council installed traffic lights or restrictions on every junction from manor road to Chessel avenue. It would mean moving the tardis, but will do a far better job at keeping the area clear. Huey
  • Score: 41

7:23am Mon 30 Jun 14

Baysider says...

churchill gardens resident wrote:
Baysider wrote:
Moan, moan, moan, blah, blah, blah...

It's not your money, you won't be expected to turn up with a paint brush or even forced to use it when it's finished so why do some people take such a negative view on everything? Well done to New River and I hope you are successful in your project.
Seems like your the only one moaning around here Baysider & living a fantasy life. Everyone else is saying how it is.. Maby you should go back down the town hall & report to your puppet masters. Go now!!!!
Eh? 'How it is' is a story about private sector, significant investment in part of town that needs redevelopment. Sorry for thinking that was good news...
[quote][p][bold]churchill gardens resident[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: Moan, moan, moan, blah, blah, blah... It's not your money, you won't be expected to turn up with a paint brush or even forced to use it when it's finished so why do some people take such a negative view on everything? Well done to New River and I hope you are successful in your project.[/p][/quote]Seems like your the only one moaning around here Baysider & living a fantasy life. Everyone else is saying how it is.. Maby you should go back down the town hall & report to your puppet masters. Go now!!!![/p][/quote]Eh? 'How it is' is a story about private sector, significant investment in part of town that needs redevelopment. Sorry for thinking that was good news... Baysider
  • Score: 10

7:40am Mon 30 Jun 14

Fingersonthem says...

Lord Spring wrote:
I have it from a 57 sources that Harrods are interested.
Was your Daddie one of them.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: I have it from a 57 sources that Harrods are interested.[/p][/quote]Was your Daddie one of them. Fingersonthem
  • Score: 3

7:48am Mon 30 Jun 14

dorsetgills says...

Blow it up should improve the look of it hahaha
Blow it up should improve the look of it hahaha dorsetgills
  • Score: -16

7:48am Mon 30 Jun 14

Dave2207 says...

One minor change that is needed is to stop playing the obtrusive music and inane commentary that is broadcast throughout the Sovereign Centre. Trying to have a quiet coffee and sticky-bun there, in the central café, this annoying background noise spoiled the experience.
One minor change that is needed is to stop playing the obtrusive music and inane commentary that is broadcast throughout the Sovereign Centre. Trying to have a quiet coffee and sticky-bun there, in the central café, this annoying background noise spoiled the experience. Dave2207
  • Score: 17

8:00am Mon 30 Jun 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

And what did Councillor Jane Kelly say 'This is wonderful for Boscombe' as the JCB's move in.
And what did Councillor Jane Kelly say 'This is wonderful for Boscombe' as the JCB's move in. politicaltrainspotter
  • Score: 5

8:19am Mon 30 Jun 14

esquisquirrel says...

Huey wrote:
Turn TJ Hughes into an indoor market.
Make the market traders use it instead of the high street. As it stands many traders don't turn up when it is raining.
Try to get some permanent market stalls there instead of just Thursdays and Saturdays, and attempt to attract new traders such as local farmers, like the market at Christchurch.
Get rid of the stalls selling bongs and other drug paraphernalia, I know it is Boscombe, but still...
Finally, and this is bit beyond the remit of the shopping centre, turn the high street back into a road, get rid of the pedestrianised bit. It just attracts the wrong kind of people and brings the whole area down.
Not everyone wants to stop off at Boscombe, and congestion is Christchurch road has got worse since the council installed traffic lights or restrictions on every junction from manor road to Chessel avenue.
It would mean moving the tardis, but will do a far better job at keeping the area clear.
This is a great idea. An indoor market, like the ones they have up North (Leeds' Victorian market for example), would be a real benefit to the area. Not only does it get the market off the street and out of the rain, but having stalls to let very cheaply and on short-term contracts would allow small, startup businesses to reach the public.

And I believe that many of the traders on the main road want to see vehicles passing through again, even just buses. So stick a couple of bus lanes through the centre, some disabled parking spaces at one end, give pedestrians priority throughout and voila. A revamped, revitalised high street.
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Turn TJ Hughes into an indoor market. Make the market traders use it instead of the high street. As it stands many traders don't turn up when it is raining. Try to get some permanent market stalls there instead of just Thursdays and Saturdays, and attempt to attract new traders such as local farmers, like the market at Christchurch. Get rid of the stalls selling bongs and other drug paraphernalia, I know it is Boscombe, but still... Finally, and this is bit beyond the remit of the shopping centre, turn the high street back into a road, get rid of the pedestrianised bit. It just attracts the wrong kind of people and brings the whole area down. Not everyone wants to stop off at Boscombe, and congestion is Christchurch road has got worse since the council installed traffic lights or restrictions on every junction from manor road to Chessel avenue. It would mean moving the tardis, but will do a far better job at keeping the area clear.[/p][/quote]This is a great idea. An indoor market, like the ones they have up North (Leeds' Victorian market for example), would be a real benefit to the area. Not only does it get the market off the street and out of the rain, but having stalls to let very cheaply and on short-term contracts would allow small, startup businesses to reach the public. And I believe that many of the traders on the main road want to see vehicles passing through again, even just buses. So stick a couple of bus lanes through the centre, some disabled parking spaces at one end, give pedestrians priority throughout and voila. A revamped, revitalised high street. esquisquirrel
  • Score: 25

8:41am Mon 30 Jun 14

Azphreal says...

Lets not forget how he said it was going to have a 'flagship store' take the tj hughes site. How long ago was the break in and why have they not bothered to get the window fixed?
Lets not forget how he said it was going to have a 'flagship store' take the tj hughes site. How long ago was the break in and why have they not bothered to get the window fixed? Azphreal
  • Score: 6

8:44am Mon 30 Jun 14

hucky999 says...

Flatten it. or turn it into a night club cuz we haven't got enough. or just leave it as a junkies heaven.
Flatten it. or turn it into a night club cuz we haven't got enough. or just leave it as a junkies heaven. hucky999
  • Score: -12

8:48am Mon 30 Jun 14

Hessenford says...

“We are a value shopping centre, 70 per cent of our customers are based ten minutes walk away,” he said.
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So that'll be the drunks and druggies then.
“We are a value shopping centre, 70 per cent of our customers are based ten minutes walk away,” he said. . So that'll be the drunks and druggies then. Hessenford
  • Score: -8

9:15am Mon 30 Jun 14

eyesropen says...

Pointless story. We already knew TJ Hughes had been bought. News would be telling us what is going in there. An indoor market to encourage local independent traders would be great.
Pointless story. We already knew TJ Hughes had been bought. News would be telling us what is going in there. An indoor market to encourage local independent traders would be great. eyesropen
  • Score: 8

9:30am Mon 30 Jun 14

beautifulcornwall says...

Huey wrote:
Turn TJ Hughes into an indoor market.
Make the market traders use it instead of the high street. As it stands many traders don't turn up when it is raining.
Try to get some permanent market stalls there instead of just Thursdays and Saturdays, and attempt to attract new traders such as local farmers, like the market at Christchurch.
Get rid of the stalls selling bongs and other drug paraphernalia, I know it is Boscombe, but still...
Finally, and this is bit beyond the remit of the shopping centre, turn the high street back into a road, get rid of the pedestrianised bit. It just attracts the wrong kind of people and brings the whole area down.
Not everyone wants to stop off at Boscombe, and congestion is Christchurch road has got worse since the council installed traffic lights or restrictions on every junction from manor road to Chessel avenue.
It would mean moving the tardis, but will do a far better job at keeping the area clear.
Great Idea, St Austell has a brilliant indoor market full of fairly good quality merchandise, its always packed plus there's another large shop next door called Byuology which in these times can save us bucket loads of money, the old T J Huges store would be an ideal place for such a market, forget high priced stores, they've had their day now.
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Turn TJ Hughes into an indoor market. Make the market traders use it instead of the high street. As it stands many traders don't turn up when it is raining. Try to get some permanent market stalls there instead of just Thursdays and Saturdays, and attempt to attract new traders such as local farmers, like the market at Christchurch. Get rid of the stalls selling bongs and other drug paraphernalia, I know it is Boscombe, but still... Finally, and this is bit beyond the remit of the shopping centre, turn the high street back into a road, get rid of the pedestrianised bit. It just attracts the wrong kind of people and brings the whole area down. Not everyone wants to stop off at Boscombe, and congestion is Christchurch road has got worse since the council installed traffic lights or restrictions on every junction from manor road to Chessel avenue. It would mean moving the tardis, but will do a far better job at keeping the area clear.[/p][/quote]Great Idea, St Austell has a brilliant indoor market full of fairly good quality merchandise, its always packed plus there's another large shop next door called Byuology which in these times can save us bucket loads of money, the old T J Huges store would be an ideal place for such a market, forget high priced stores, they've had their day now. beautifulcornwall
  • Score: 15

9:31am Mon 30 Jun 14

echor23 says...

If it's to meet the needs of the local residents does that mean it's going to have a new off license, drug counter and area for sleeping bags with drunks inside? Why on earth are more people wasting yet more money in boscombe? The area has been going further downhill for years and years and mainly thanks to Dave wells properties allowing cheap rentals with social housing!
Well good luck to the new owners, setting themselves up for one huge financial loss and fall as boscombe is an unsafe and nasty area and has been for years and is only getting worse!
The only way to improve would be to buy all social housing and benefit tenants out, refurb each and every junkies house, bulldoze much if boscombe and start again! Is that going to happen, no!!!
If it's to meet the needs of the local residents does that mean it's going to have a new off license, drug counter and area for sleeping bags with drunks inside? Why on earth are more people wasting yet more money in boscombe? The area has been going further downhill for years and years and mainly thanks to Dave wells properties allowing cheap rentals with social housing! Well good luck to the new owners, setting themselves up for one huge financial loss and fall as boscombe is an unsafe and nasty area and has been for years and is only getting worse! The only way to improve would be to buy all social housing and benefit tenants out, refurb each and every junkies house, bulldoze much if boscombe and start again! Is that going to happen, no!!! echor23
  • Score: -9

9:46am Mon 30 Jun 14

bbird says...

Huey wrote:
Turn TJ Hughes into an indoor market.
Make the market traders use it instead of the high street. As it stands many traders don't turn up when it is raining.
Try to get some permanent market stalls there instead of just Thursdays and Saturdays, and attempt to attract new traders such as local farmers, like the market at Christchurch.
Get rid of the stalls selling bongs and other drug paraphernalia, I know it is Boscombe, but still...
Finally, and this is bit beyond the remit of the shopping centre, turn the high street back into a road, get rid of the pedestrianised bit. It just attracts the wrong kind of people and brings the whole area down.
Not everyone wants to stop off at Boscombe, and congestion is Christchurch road has got worse since the council installed traffic lights or restrictions on every junction from manor road to Chessel avenue.
It would mean moving the tardis, but will do a far better job at keeping the area clear.
Agree to all, good suggestions. But not to depedestrianisation. I would bring back a traditional character to the shop fronts, with all signs in a traditional (or stylish contemporary style?), and encourage a mix of foodie and other restaurants and cafes with terraces (also open evenings).
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Turn TJ Hughes into an indoor market. Make the market traders use it instead of the high street. As it stands many traders don't turn up when it is raining. Try to get some permanent market stalls there instead of just Thursdays and Saturdays, and attempt to attract new traders such as local farmers, like the market at Christchurch. Get rid of the stalls selling bongs and other drug paraphernalia, I know it is Boscombe, but still... Finally, and this is bit beyond the remit of the shopping centre, turn the high street back into a road, get rid of the pedestrianised bit. It just attracts the wrong kind of people and brings the whole area down. Not everyone wants to stop off at Boscombe, and congestion is Christchurch road has got worse since the council installed traffic lights or restrictions on every junction from manor road to Chessel avenue. It would mean moving the tardis, but will do a far better job at keeping the area clear.[/p][/quote]Agree to all, good suggestions. But not to depedestrianisation. I would bring back a traditional character to the shop fronts, with all signs in a traditional (or stylish contemporary style?), and encourage a mix of foodie and other restaurants and cafes with terraces (also open evenings). bbird
  • Score: 8

9:53am Mon 30 Jun 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

An amalgamation of Pounland and the 99p store would be ideal. A huge emporium where everything is 99 1/2 p.
An amalgamation of Pounland and the 99p store would be ideal. A huge emporium where everything is 99 1/2 p. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: -7

9:57am Mon 30 Jun 14

Hessenford says...

beautifulcornwall wrote:
Huey wrote:
Turn TJ Hughes into an indoor market.
Make the market traders use it instead of the high street. As it stands many traders don't turn up when it is raining.
Try to get some permanent market stalls there instead of just Thursdays and Saturdays, and attempt to attract new traders such as local farmers, like the market at Christchurch.
Get rid of the stalls selling bongs and other drug paraphernalia, I know it is Boscombe, but still...
Finally, and this is bit beyond the remit of the shopping centre, turn the high street back into a road, get rid of the pedestrianised bit. It just attracts the wrong kind of people and brings the whole area down.
Not everyone wants to stop off at Boscombe, and congestion is Christchurch road has got worse since the council installed traffic lights or restrictions on every junction from manor road to Chessel avenue.
It would mean moving the tardis, but will do a far better job at keeping the area clear.
Great Idea, St Austell has a brilliant indoor market full of fairly good quality merchandise, its always packed plus there's another large shop next door called Byuology which in these times can save us bucket loads of money, the old T J Huges store would be an ideal place for such a market, forget high priced stores, they've had their day now.
I've visited that indoor market in St Austell and its absolutely brilliant, apart from the many stalls there are plenty of small cafes plus a cake stall to die for, the shop you refer to next door has got to be one of the best money savers I have been to for years, if the Cornish Market in St Austell was copied in Boscombe the place would be packed every day of the week, but of course this is Dorset, good ideas are very rarely tried here as its to snobby.
[quote][p][bold]beautifulcornwall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Turn TJ Hughes into an indoor market. Make the market traders use it instead of the high street. As it stands many traders don't turn up when it is raining. Try to get some permanent market stalls there instead of just Thursdays and Saturdays, and attempt to attract new traders such as local farmers, like the market at Christchurch. Get rid of the stalls selling bongs and other drug paraphernalia, I know it is Boscombe, but still... Finally, and this is bit beyond the remit of the shopping centre, turn the high street back into a road, get rid of the pedestrianised bit. It just attracts the wrong kind of people and brings the whole area down. Not everyone wants to stop off at Boscombe, and congestion is Christchurch road has got worse since the council installed traffic lights or restrictions on every junction from manor road to Chessel avenue. It would mean moving the tardis, but will do a far better job at keeping the area clear.[/p][/quote]Great Idea, St Austell has a brilliant indoor market full of fairly good quality merchandise, its always packed plus there's another large shop next door called Byuology which in these times can save us bucket loads of money, the old T J Huges store would be an ideal place for such a market, forget high priced stores, they've had their day now.[/p][/quote]I've visited that indoor market in St Austell and its absolutely brilliant, apart from the many stalls there are plenty of small cafes plus a cake stall to die for, the shop you refer to next door has got to be one of the best money savers I have been to for years, if the Cornish Market in St Austell was copied in Boscombe the place would be packed every day of the week, but of course this is Dorset, good ideas are very rarely tried here as its to snobby. Hessenford
  • Score: 14

10:33am Mon 30 Jun 14

TheDistrict says...

Hessenford wrote:
beautifulcornwall wrote:
Huey wrote:
Turn TJ Hughes into an indoor market.
Make the market traders use it instead of the high street. As it stands many traders don't turn up when it is raining.
Try to get some permanent market stalls there instead of just Thursdays and Saturdays, and attempt to attract new traders such as local farmers, like the market at Christchurch.
Get rid of the stalls selling bongs and other drug paraphernalia, I know it is Boscombe, but still...
Finally, and this is bit beyond the remit of the shopping centre, turn the high street back into a road, get rid of the pedestrianised bit. It just attracts the wrong kind of people and brings the whole area down.
Not everyone wants to stop off at Boscombe, and congestion is Christchurch road has got worse since the council installed traffic lights or restrictions on every junction from manor road to Chessel avenue.
It would mean moving the tardis, but will do a far better job at keeping the area clear.
Great Idea, St Austell has a brilliant indoor market full of fairly good quality merchandise, its always packed plus there's another large shop next door called Byuology which in these times can save us bucket loads of money, the old T J Huges store would be an ideal place for such a market, forget high priced stores, they've had their day now.
I've visited that indoor market in St Austell and its absolutely brilliant, apart from the many stalls there are plenty of small cafes plus a cake stall to die for, the shop you refer to next door has got to be one of the best money savers I have been to for years, if the Cornish Market in St Austell was copied in Boscombe the place would be packed every day of the week, but of course this is Dorset, good ideas are very rarely tried here as its to snobby.
Everything above is just what is needed, something for everyone. Not only the residents of Boscombe, but those of us who use to go there, but need something better to attract us back.

In addition to the above, Home Bargains, The Range, Dunhelm, if the indoor market it did not get approved. Hope it does.
[quote][p][bold]Hessenford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]beautifulcornwall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Turn TJ Hughes into an indoor market. Make the market traders use it instead of the high street. As it stands many traders don't turn up when it is raining. Try to get some permanent market stalls there instead of just Thursdays and Saturdays, and attempt to attract new traders such as local farmers, like the market at Christchurch. Get rid of the stalls selling bongs and other drug paraphernalia, I know it is Boscombe, but still... Finally, and this is bit beyond the remit of the shopping centre, turn the high street back into a road, get rid of the pedestrianised bit. It just attracts the wrong kind of people and brings the whole area down. Not everyone wants to stop off at Boscombe, and congestion is Christchurch road has got worse since the council installed traffic lights or restrictions on every junction from manor road to Chessel avenue. It would mean moving the tardis, but will do a far better job at keeping the area clear.[/p][/quote]Great Idea, St Austell has a brilliant indoor market full of fairly good quality merchandise, its always packed plus there's another large shop next door called Byuology which in these times can save us bucket loads of money, the old T J Huges store would be an ideal place for such a market, forget high priced stores, they've had their day now.[/p][/quote]I've visited that indoor market in St Austell and its absolutely brilliant, apart from the many stalls there are plenty of small cafes plus a cake stall to die for, the shop you refer to next door has got to be one of the best money savers I have been to for years, if the Cornish Market in St Austell was copied in Boscombe the place would be packed every day of the week, but of course this is Dorset, good ideas are very rarely tried here as its to snobby.[/p][/quote]Everything above is just what is needed, something for everyone. Not only the residents of Boscombe, but those of us who use to go there, but need something better to attract us back. In addition to the above, Home Bargains, The Range, Dunhelm, if the indoor market it did not get approved. Hope it does. TheDistrict
  • Score: 10

10:59am Mon 30 Jun 14

Lord Spring says...

Fingersonthem wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
I have it from a 57 sources that Harrods are interested.
Was your Daddie one of them.
No, he was more Crosse than Blackwell.
[quote][p][bold]Fingersonthem[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: I have it from a 57 sources that Harrods are interested.[/p][/quote]Was your Daddie one of them.[/p][/quote]No, he was more Crosse than Blackwell. Lord Spring
  • Score: 7

11:14am Mon 30 Jun 14

muscliffman says...

What a pity this welcome private investment cannot be accompanied by a fresh and radical change in the depressing political approach to this area.

Huge improvements could be made to Boscombe in a relatively short time if only people with both the will and the determination were pulling the strings. Regrettably most of us have worked out what interests are controlling Boscombe at the moment, so polishing the Sovereign Centre is not really the news we are all waiting for.
What a pity this welcome private investment cannot be accompanied by a fresh and radical change in the depressing political approach to this area. Huge improvements could be made to Boscombe in a relatively short time if only people with both the will and the determination were pulling the strings. Regrettably most of us have worked out what interests are controlling Boscombe at the moment, so polishing the Sovereign Centre is not really the news we are all waiting for. muscliffman
  • Score: 4

11:56am Mon 30 Jun 14

BmthNewshound says...

The article doesn't actually say an awful lot really. This is the second article about the Sovereign Centre in recent weeks but we're still none the wiser as to what they have planned.
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The fact that the a former store director is now Sovereign Centre manager doesn't fill me with hope when you consider how Beales has gone down hill.
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I think that the idea of an indoor market is ok in theory but I wonder if a market could compete against the discount retailers (Aldi, Lidl, 99p shop etc). The outdoor market isn't as vibrant as it once was and that is only twice a week.
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There does appear to be a glimmer of hope for retailing in Boscombe with several new shops opening in the Royal Arcade over the past few months and on Saturday people were working in the cafe so it looks like that could be reopening soon.
The article doesn't actually say an awful lot really. This is the second article about the Sovereign Centre in recent weeks but we're still none the wiser as to what they have planned. . The fact that the a former store director is now Sovereign Centre manager doesn't fill me with hope when you consider how Beales has gone down hill. . I think that the idea of an indoor market is ok in theory but I wonder if a market could compete against the discount retailers (Aldi, Lidl, 99p shop etc). The outdoor market isn't as vibrant as it once was and that is only twice a week. . There does appear to be a glimmer of hope for retailing in Boscombe with several new shops opening in the Royal Arcade over the past few months and on Saturday people were working in the cafe so it looks like that could be reopening soon. BmthNewshound
  • Score: 1

12:57pm Mon 30 Jun 14

Mr Mo says...

hucky999 wrote:
Flatten it. or turn it into a night club cuz we haven't got enough. or just leave it as a junkies heaven.
Thicko alert
[quote][p][bold]hucky999[/bold] wrote: Flatten it. or turn it into a night club cuz we haven't got enough. or just leave it as a junkies heaven.[/p][/quote]Thicko alert Mr Mo
  • Score: 6

1:05pm Mon 30 Jun 14

skydriver says...

Do you mean plenty of Wacky Backy and pot shops, .
To follow on from your statement, what the needs are for the residents of Boscombe. More wasting of cash, again demolition is the way forward.
Boscombe hardly a holiday haunt is it, or are you expecting visitors from around the world to see what a disgrace it is.?
Do you mean plenty of Wacky Backy and pot shops, . To follow on from your statement, what the needs are for the residents of Boscombe. More wasting of cash, again demolition is the way forward. Boscombe hardly a holiday haunt is it, or are you expecting visitors from around the world to see what a disgrace it is.? skydriver
  • Score: 1

2:22pm Mon 30 Jun 14

echor23 says...

So funny how I get several boos from the crowd as I write my completly honest post about boscombe! I agree with the honest others, bulldoze it to the ground :)
So funny how I get several boos from the crowd as I write my completly honest post about boscombe! I agree with the honest others, bulldoze it to the ground :) echor23
  • Score: -7

2:23pm Mon 30 Jun 14

wadjit says...

This is great. Anything is better than what it is now. So onwards and upwards I hope. There is not point in pessimism when it comes to Boscombe. It has the potential to be a real multicultural community but it will take a long time and much investment. I find the mix of cultures very interesting. Something good will come in the end for Boscombe.
This is great. Anything is better than what it is now. So onwards and upwards I hope. There is not point in pessimism when it comes to Boscombe. It has the potential to be a real multicultural community but it will take a long time and much investment. I find the mix of cultures very interesting. Something good will come in the end for Boscombe. wadjit
  • Score: 4

2:33pm Mon 30 Jun 14

echor23 says...

wadjit wrote:
This is great. Anything is better than what it is now. So onwards and upwards I hope. There is not point in pessimism when it comes to Boscombe. It has the potential to be a real multicultural community but it will take a long time and much investment. I find the mix of cultures very interesting. Something good will come in the end for Boscombe.
Good lord, you haven't known boscombe for long have you! I've known it for 40 years!!! Trust me it will never become good!!! It's only become worse and worse and worse each and every year! I'm not sure the multi culture idea works in boscombe either, charminster it might but in boscombe it's had many Somalian drug gangs which have introduced executions in boscombe!!! Not quite what boscombe needed but hey adds to the squalor that boscombe is!
[quote][p][bold]wadjit[/bold] wrote: This is great. Anything is better than what it is now. So onwards and upwards I hope. There is not point in pessimism when it comes to Boscombe. It has the potential to be a real multicultural community but it will take a long time and much investment. I find the mix of cultures very interesting. Something good will come in the end for Boscombe.[/p][/quote]Good lord, you haven't known boscombe for long have you! I've known it for 40 years!!! Trust me it will never become good!!! It's only become worse and worse and worse each and every year! I'm not sure the multi culture idea works in boscombe either, charminster it might but in boscombe it's had many Somalian drug gangs which have introduced executions in boscombe!!! Not quite what boscombe needed but hey adds to the squalor that boscombe is! echor23
  • Score: 4

3:45pm Mon 30 Jun 14

ILoveBoscombe says...

Understated wrote:
so... suit boscombe's needs... with a library and community centre...

are they mad???
Boscombe already has a perfectly good library - and it's very well used.
[quote][p][bold]Understated[/bold] wrote: so... suit boscombe's needs... with a library and community centre... are they mad???[/p][/quote]Boscombe already has a perfectly good library - and it's very well used. ILoveBoscombe
  • Score: 4

3:59pm Mon 30 Jun 14

OvercliffeObserver says...

An indoor market would be fantastic and would prove very instrumental in raising the profile of Boscombe - I agree the Precinit only brings down Boscombe and does look terrible with all the teenage mother smoking outside McDonald's - Opening it up to all traffic would probably make it a bit too busy but allowing buses and taxi's to use it would be perfect - Then the appalling bus station can be demolished and the sovereign centre expanded
An indoor market would be fantastic and would prove very instrumental in raising the profile of Boscombe - I agree the Precinit only brings down Boscombe and does look terrible with all the teenage mother smoking outside McDonald's - Opening it up to all traffic would probably make it a bit too busy but allowing buses and taxi's to use it would be perfect - Then the appalling bus station can be demolished and the sovereign centre expanded OvercliffeObserver
  • Score: -1

6:42pm Mon 30 Jun 14

muscliffman says...

OvercliffeObserver wrote:
An indoor market would be fantastic and would prove very instrumental in raising the profile of Boscombe - I agree the Precinit only brings down Boscombe and does look terrible with all the teenage mother smoking outside McDonald's - Opening it up to all traffic would probably make it a bit too busy but allowing buses and taxi's to use it would be perfect - Then the appalling bus station can be demolished and the sovereign centre expanded
I have suggested the precinct be reopened in the past to mixed reactions on this forum, it may be that our older fonder memories of a much nicer Boscombe date back to when the traffic did flow along the main road - rose coloured glasses and all that.......

However it may be worth a brave try, the regular market could be relocated quite easily and if a full flow is allowed back along Christchurch Road then Centenary Way will have no major purpose except for the short part serving the car park.
[quote][p][bold]OvercliffeObserver[/bold] wrote: An indoor market would be fantastic and would prove very instrumental in raising the profile of Boscombe - I agree the Precinit only brings down Boscombe and does look terrible with all the teenage mother smoking outside McDonald's - Opening it up to all traffic would probably make it a bit too busy but allowing buses and taxi's to use it would be perfect - Then the appalling bus station can be demolished and the sovereign centre expanded[/p][/quote]I have suggested the precinct be reopened in the past to mixed reactions on this forum, it may be that our older fonder memories of a much nicer Boscombe date back to when the traffic did flow along the main road - rose coloured glasses and all that....... However it may be worth a brave try, the regular market could be relocated quite easily and if a full flow is allowed back along Christchurch Road then Centenary Way will have no major purpose except for the short part serving the car park. muscliffman
  • Score: 1

3:32am Tue 1 Jul 14

foggirl says...

Beautifulcornwall...
... The indoor market is in Par not St Austell.... Par market or it's newer name is Cornish Market World. Good for some things like pasties and saffron cake but shocking for other things... Indoor markets are all well and good as long as the merchandise is of good quality. Unfortunately this day and age a lot of people want something for nothing. Meaning a lot of cheap and nasty stalls are all the more popular . Revamping 1 shop won't change the whole reputation of a town especially this particular town. It is sad but it's true. No amount if money will stop the drug dealers the drug takers the prostitution the alcoholics.... No amount of money can rebuild the reputation of any place . The only thing to sort this place out is to knock the lot down start again . Get rid of the knocking shops or "massage parlours" get rid if the junkies. Build some thing for the residents to be proud of not the residents be to ashamed of. Give them something so that they can turn to a friend with their head held high and say "yes come to boscombe it's lovely " instead of them refusing to admit they live there so say they live just outside of Bournemouth !!!!!
Beautifulcornwall... ... The indoor market is in Par not St Austell.... Par market or it's newer name is Cornish Market World. Good for some things like pasties and saffron cake but shocking for other things... Indoor markets are all well and good as long as the merchandise is of good quality. Unfortunately this day and age a lot of people want something for nothing. Meaning a lot of cheap and nasty stalls are all the more popular . Revamping 1 shop won't change the whole reputation of a town especially this particular town. It is sad but it's true. No amount if money will stop the drug dealers the drug takers the prostitution the alcoholics.... No amount of money can rebuild the reputation of any place . The only thing to sort this place out is to knock the lot down start again . Get rid of the knocking shops or "massage parlours" get rid if the junkies. Build some thing for the residents to be proud of not the residents be to ashamed of. Give them something so that they can turn to a friend with their head held high and say "yes come to boscombe it's lovely " instead of them refusing to admit they live there so say they live just outside of Bournemouth !!!!! foggirl
  • Score: 1

11:08am Tue 1 Jul 14

mpdor says...

An indoor market will not last long term, why not split the store into 2 units there are entrances from outside and inside, why not a currys upstairs and the range down stairs or if as we are led to believe that boscombe is on the up have marks and spencers back downstairs and a b/q store anything that will last longterm, I was told by the owners that the rent was £300000 per year that's before any local taxes etc so you need an anchor store, I don't think boscombe is changing fast enough for the better, I still see the same people causing the same problems 21 years after moving here those that say there is no problem are normally the ones that are the problems,look at the flat opposite bos bus station for months complaints about the stench of drugs coming from It and still it continues, walk around boscombe and its like a Brixton of the 1980s
An indoor market will not last long term, why not split the store into 2 units there are entrances from outside and inside, why not a currys upstairs and the range down stairs or if as we are led to believe that boscombe is on the up have marks and spencers back downstairs and a b/q store anything that will last longterm, I was told by the owners that the rent was £300000 per year that's before any local taxes etc so you need an anchor store, I don't think boscombe is changing fast enough for the better, I still see the same people causing the same problems 21 years after moving here those that say there is no problem are normally the ones that are the problems,look at the flat opposite bos bus station for months complaints about the stench of drugs coming from It and still it continues, walk around boscombe and its like a Brixton of the 1980s mpdor
  • Score: 2

1:53pm Tue 1 Jul 14

wadjit says...

echor23 wrote:
wadjit wrote:
This is great. Anything is better than what it is now. So onwards and upwards I hope. There is not point in pessimism when it comes to Boscombe. It has the potential to be a real multicultural community but it will take a long time and much investment. I find the mix of cultures very interesting. Something good will come in the end for Boscombe.
Good lord, you haven't known boscombe for long have you! I've known it for 40 years!!! Trust me it will never become good!!! It's only become worse and worse and worse each and every year! I'm not sure the multi culture idea works in boscombe either, charminster it might but in boscombe it's had many Somalian drug gangs which have introduced executions in boscombe!!! Not quite what boscombe needed but hey adds to the squalor that boscombe is!
Sounds like you know it all mate. Laughable.
[quote][p][bold]echor23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wadjit[/bold] wrote: This is great. Anything is better than what it is now. So onwards and upwards I hope. There is not point in pessimism when it comes to Boscombe. It has the potential to be a real multicultural community but it will take a long time and much investment. I find the mix of cultures very interesting. Something good will come in the end for Boscombe.[/p][/quote]Good lord, you haven't known boscombe for long have you! I've known it for 40 years!!! Trust me it will never become good!!! It's only become worse and worse and worse each and every year! I'm not sure the multi culture idea works in boscombe either, charminster it might but in boscombe it's had many Somalian drug gangs which have introduced executions in boscombe!!! Not quite what boscombe needed but hey adds to the squalor that boscombe is![/p][/quote]Sounds like you know it all mate. Laughable. wadjit
  • Score: 3

2:28pm Tue 1 Jul 14

Hessenford says...

foggirl wrote:
Beautifulcornwall...

... The indoor market is in Par not St Austell.... Par market or it's newer name is Cornish Market World. Good for some things like pasties and saffron cake but shocking for other things... Indoor markets are all well and good as long as the merchandise is of good quality. Unfortunately this day and age a lot of people want something for nothing. Meaning a lot of cheap and nasty stalls are all the more popular . Revamping 1 shop won't change the whole reputation of a town especially this particular town. It is sad but it's true. No amount if money will stop the drug dealers the drug takers the prostitution the alcoholics.... No amount of money can rebuild the reputation of any place . The only thing to sort this place out is to knock the lot down start again . Get rid of the knocking shops or "massage parlours" get rid if the junkies. Build some thing for the residents to be proud of not the residents be to ashamed of. Give them something so that they can turn to a friend with their head held high and say "yes come to boscombe it's lovely " instead of them refusing to admit they live there so say they live just outside of Bournemouth !!!!!
Cornish market world is in the Stadium Retail Park Par St Austell so no need to get picky.
Everyone's entitled to an opinion but there are quite a few good bargains to be had there, the shop next door Buyology is also a bargain shop, we've bought items there for less that half price for the same quality as other well name brand shops so it's not all crap and there's no denying that both these places really do draw the crowds, unless your a snob of course.
[quote][p][bold]foggirl[/bold] wrote: Beautifulcornwall... ... The indoor market is in Par not St Austell.... Par market or it's newer name is Cornish Market World. Good for some things like pasties and saffron cake but shocking for other things... Indoor markets are all well and good as long as the merchandise is of good quality. Unfortunately this day and age a lot of people want something for nothing. Meaning a lot of cheap and nasty stalls are all the more popular . Revamping 1 shop won't change the whole reputation of a town especially this particular town. It is sad but it's true. No amount if money will stop the drug dealers the drug takers the prostitution the alcoholics.... No amount of money can rebuild the reputation of any place . The only thing to sort this place out is to knock the lot down start again . Get rid of the knocking shops or "massage parlours" get rid if the junkies. Build some thing for the residents to be proud of not the residents be to ashamed of. Give them something so that they can turn to a friend with their head held high and say "yes come to boscombe it's lovely " instead of them refusing to admit they live there so say they live just outside of Bournemouth !!!!![/p][/quote]Cornish market world is in the Stadium Retail Park Par St Austell so no need to get picky. Everyone's entitled to an opinion but there are quite a few good bargains to be had there, the shop next door Buyology is also a bargain shop, we've bought items there for less that half price for the same quality as other well name brand shops so it's not all crap and there's no denying that both these places really do draw the crowds, unless your a snob of course. Hessenford
  • Score: 3

10:30pm Tue 1 Jul 14

aquasplash3 says...

Maybe Tesco would be interested.
Maybe Tesco would be interested. aquasplash3
  • Score: -1

10:46pm Tue 1 Jul 14

saved sinner says...

I think it would be a good idea for M. &S. to return, the place certainly went downhill after they left.
I think it would be a good idea for M. &S. to return, the place certainly went downhill after they left. saved sinner
  • Score: 2

2:03am Wed 2 Jul 14

Mrs C. A Townend says...

Revamp? Hopefully you won't turn it into another center full of useless shops then.
Revamp? Hopefully you won't turn it into another center full of useless shops then. Mrs C. A Townend
  • Score: 0

8:07am Wed 2 Jul 14

Lord Spring says...

aquasplash3 wrote:
Maybe Tesco would be interested.
They got out Boscombe many years ago mind you they were like an Aldi when they opened in the 1960
[quote][p][bold]aquasplash3[/bold] wrote: Maybe Tesco would be interested.[/p][/quote]They got out Boscombe many years ago mind you they were like an Aldi when they opened in the 1960 Lord Spring
  • Score: 0

8:18am Wed 2 Jul 14

Lord Spring says...

What about one of the following stores to return Home & Colonial , World Store, International, Maples, Timothy Whites, Fine Fare and final and not least a class jewler like Meaders.
What about one of the following stores to return Home & Colonial , World Store, International, Maples, Timothy Whites, Fine Fare and final and not least a class jewler like Meaders. Lord Spring
  • Score: 0
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