Mountain of rubbish piles up near Walpole Road after Bournemouth council fails to collect it

MOUND OF RUBBISH: Overflowing rubbish around a communal bin store at the junction of Walpole Lane and Walpole Road in Boscombe

MOUND OF RUBBISH: Overflowing rubbish around a communal bin store at the junction of Walpole Lane and Walpole Road in Boscombe

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A MOUNTAIN of rubbish by the side of a Boscombe road built up after the council ‘failed to clear it’, according to residents.

The makeshift tip, which is protruding onto the road from the courtyard of a block of flats on Walpole Road, near The Crescent includes a mattress, fridge, rotting food and masses of discarded packaging.

John Punell, 46, has lived in the area for 12 years and described the site as ‘disgusting’. He said it has been in this state for months.

“Someone needs to take responsibility for this,” he added. “It is the sort of thing that could become a health issue.”

Andy Berry, another resident who lives nearby, said he had seen rats there plus passers-by throwing more rubbish onto the heap.

“How it got into this state I will never know. It is like every Tom, Dick and Harry is dumping rubbish there. It seems to take a lot of complaints before anything is done.

“They are trying to improve Boscombe and make it a nicer place to live so to see this is disheartening.”

Karen Read, who lives in Walpole Road, said she has been emailing the council about the issue for weeks.

“I got a reply from them to say, ‘We’re going to sort it out’, and they even sent a lorry, but it stopped and then drove off again without clearing anything,” she added.

“Somebody’s even put a sign next to it saying ‘Free maggots’.

“There’s all sorts there – dirty nappies, rotten food, everything. If it’s windy, you can smell it for some way.”

A spokesman for Bournemouth Borough Council said access to the area was blocked by bulky goods.

“The rubbish has since piled on top of the bulky goods but because this is a private property we are not obliged to clear the bulky goods,” he said.

“Our enforcement team has been liaising with the managing agent and a contractor has been scheduled from the managing agent to remove the bulky goods and once this has been done we will collect the rubbish.”

The rubbish was cleared away shortly after this article was posted. Gary Briggs, refuse operations manager at Bournemouth council, said: “The managing agent arranged for their contractor to clear away the rubbish which had been piled in front of the bins.

“This is standard practice for private residential areas. We then emptied all three communal bins this morning and swept the alleyway behind the bin store to ensure any litter that had spilled out was removed.”

 

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5:14am Wed 18 Jun 14

churchill gardens resident says...

Where is that Jane Kelly when you want her in her fluoresent yellow vest & hard hat with the words on the back "Backing Boscombe" on it Miles away I guess
Where is that Jane Kelly when you want her in her fluoresent yellow vest & hard hat with the words on the back "Backing Boscombe" on it Miles away I guess churchill gardens resident
  • Score: 28

6:46am Wed 18 Jun 14

Phixer says...

'A spokesman for Bournemouth Borough Council said “The rubbish has since piled on top of the bulky goods but because this is a private property we are not obliged to clear the bulky goods,”

Well, that's alright then. Never mind any health hazard, as long as Mr Jobsworth can wring his hands of the matter.

I pay Mr Jobsworth to ensure that my environment is kept safe to live in; I'll be happy to accept Mr Jobsworth's resignation for dereliction of duty; taking money under false pretences.
'A spokesman for Bournemouth Borough Council said “The rubbish has since piled on top of the bulky goods but because this is a private property we are not obliged to clear the bulky goods,” Well, that's alright then. Never mind any health hazard, as long as Mr Jobsworth can wring his hands of the matter. I pay Mr Jobsworth to ensure that my environment is kept safe to live in; I'll be happy to accept Mr Jobsworth's resignation for dereliction of duty; taking money under false pretences. Phixer
  • Score: -40

6:56am Wed 18 Jun 14

nobull says...

We would all have tip out side our properties if we were lazy *astards. get of your lazy fat ar*ses and remove it to the correct place.Take some responsibility......
........... (nobody should dump large items by the road) Grrrrrrrr.
We would all have tip out side our properties if we were lazy *astards. get of your lazy fat ar*ses and remove it to the correct place.Take some responsibility...... ........... (nobody should dump large items by the road) Grrrrrrrr. nobull
  • Score: 93

7:02am Wed 18 Jun 14

Huey says...

Can't local jobless addicts be made to clean this up instead of hanging round begging all day? Now that WOULD be a step in the right direction....
Can't local jobless addicts be made to clean this up instead of hanging round begging all day? Now that WOULD be a step in the right direction.... Huey
  • Score: 84

7:13am Wed 18 Jun 14

churchill gardens resident says...

Boscombe init .. bra, There all drinking by the turdis now in da hood
Boscombe init .. bra, There all drinking by the turdis now in da hood churchill gardens resident
  • Score: 11

7:23am Wed 18 Jun 14

Baysider says...

Phixer wrote:
'A spokesman for Bournemouth Borough Council said “The rubbish has since piled on top of the bulky goods but because this is a private property we are not obliged to clear the bulky goods,”

Well, that's alright then. Never mind any health hazard, as long as Mr Jobsworth can wring his hands of the matter.

I pay Mr Jobsworth to ensure that my environment is kept safe to live in; I'll be happy to accept Mr Jobsworth's resignation for dereliction of duty; taking money under false pretences.
What on earth are you on about? It's on private land ergo it's the responsibility of the landowner to get rid of the old fridges, mattresses, etc that have been dumped there. It's not the council's fault that some charming residents blocked in the bins with their old fridges and proceeded to pile their rubbish on top rather than sort it out properly and neither should we as council tax payers have to pay to sort out the landowners mess for them.
[quote][p][bold]Phixer[/bold] wrote: 'A spokesman for Bournemouth Borough Council said “The rubbish has since piled on top of the bulky goods but because this is a private property we are not obliged to clear the bulky goods,” Well, that's alright then. Never mind any health hazard, as long as Mr Jobsworth can wring his hands of the matter. I pay Mr Jobsworth to ensure that my environment is kept safe to live in; I'll be happy to accept Mr Jobsworth's resignation for dereliction of duty; taking money under false pretences.[/p][/quote]What on earth are you on about? It's on private land ergo it's the responsibility of the landowner to get rid of the old fridges, mattresses, etc that have been dumped there. It's not the council's fault that some charming residents blocked in the bins with their old fridges and proceeded to pile their rubbish on top rather than sort it out properly and neither should we as council tax payers have to pay to sort out the landowners mess for them. Baysider
  • Score: 105

7:31am Wed 18 Jun 14

oversee says...

Quite right too....more people should do it....then the lazy bin men would get fingers out.
Quite right too....more people should do it....then the lazy bin men would get fingers out. oversee
  • Score: -45

7:31am Wed 18 Jun 14

Lord Spring says...

Phixer wrote:
'A spokesman for Bournemouth Borough Council said “The rubbish has since piled on top of the bulky goods but because this is a private property we are not obliged to clear the bulky goods,”

Well, that's alright then. Never mind any health hazard, as long as Mr Jobsworth can wring his hands of the matter.

I pay Mr Jobsworth to ensure that my environment is kept safe to live in; I'll be happy to accept Mr Jobsworth's resignation for dereliction of duty; taking money under false pretences.
Would it not be better if we did not have to rely on Mr Jobsworth to keep the environment safe , I was going to call the people who randomly dump their garbage pigs , but the fact is pigs live cleaner than them.

Whist it seems to be allowed by the planning authorities the siting of rubbish compounds at the front of properties mainly flats for ease of collection it can only cause others to misuse it
[quote][p][bold]Phixer[/bold] wrote: 'A spokesman for Bournemouth Borough Council said “The rubbish has since piled on top of the bulky goods but because this is a private property we are not obliged to clear the bulky goods,” Well, that's alright then. Never mind any health hazard, as long as Mr Jobsworth can wring his hands of the matter. I pay Mr Jobsworth to ensure that my environment is kept safe to live in; I'll be happy to accept Mr Jobsworth's resignation for dereliction of duty; taking money under false pretences.[/p][/quote]Would it not be better if we did not have to rely on Mr Jobsworth to keep the environment safe , I was going to call the people who randomly dump their garbage pigs , but the fact is pigs live cleaner than them. Whist it seems to be allowed by the planning authorities the siting of rubbish compounds at the front of properties mainly flats for ease of collection it can only cause others to misuse it Lord Spring
  • Score: 20

7:40am Wed 18 Jun 14

bosco1 says...

Why does it become the Councils fault, they dident dump the cr.p there did they. Its the selfish residents lets get rid of the rubbish out of our way/home and let someone else clear it or move it.People adding to the pile are just as ignorant as well.Why expect others to clear up your Cr*p.!! If its a communal block of flats let the bill go to the Managing Agents who are supposed to manage a property.However saying that as the pile gets bigger its likely not to belong to all the people that live in this block.
Why does it become the Councils fault, they dident dump the cr.p there did they. Its the selfish residents lets get rid of the rubbish out of our way/home and let someone else clear it or move it.People adding to the pile are just as ignorant as well.Why expect others to clear up your Cr*p.!! If its a communal block of flats let the bill go to the Managing Agents who are supposed to manage a property.However saying that as the pile gets bigger its likely not to belong to all the people that live in this block. bosco1
  • Score: 43

7:57am Wed 18 Jun 14

ben111 says...

C'mon lets all have ago bla bla its never my fault bla bla lazy bin men, I pay my taxes bla bla F@#@ing lazy people help your selves for a change, Im sick and tired of people , Poor me its never our fault or problem if we just push it in a corner and complain . people in South African countries would give body parts for the opotunities we have been given here, My soap box is not big enough so i will give you the v's and bid you good day.
C'mon lets all have ago bla bla its never my fault bla bla lazy bin men, I pay my taxes bla bla F@#@ing lazy people help your selves for a change, Im sick and tired of people , Poor me its never our fault or problem if we just push it in a corner and complain . people in South African countries would give body parts for the opotunities we have been given here, My soap box is not big enough so i will give you the v's and bid you good day. ben111
  • Score: 16

8:02am Wed 18 Jun 14

djd says...

Rubbish attracts rubbish. If there is a pile of rubbish someone will always add to the pile.
Perhaps the residents should have spent their time chasing their landlord rather than bleating to The Echo. He's the one who collects the rents, it's his responsibility to clear the stuff, then the bin men can get to the bins.
Rubbish attracts rubbish. If there is a pile of rubbish someone will always add to the pile. Perhaps the residents should have spent their time chasing their landlord rather than bleating to The Echo. He's the one who collects the rents, it's his responsibility to clear the stuff, then the bin men can get to the bins. djd
  • Score: 38

8:15am Wed 18 Jun 14

Carolyn43 says...

Doesn't matter who dumped it - it's a health hazard now and needs clearing NOW. The council should get it cleared (although I wouldn't like to be one of the heroes who handles the stuff), and then send the bill to the managing agents.

Set up CCTV to identify anyone dumping after that and take legal action against them. If it's shows someone living in the flats dumping rubbish, evict them.
Doesn't matter who dumped it - it's a health hazard now and needs clearing NOW. The council should get it cleared (although I wouldn't like to be one of the heroes who handles the stuff), and then send the bill to the managing agents. Set up CCTV to identify anyone dumping after that and take legal action against them. If it's shows someone living in the flats dumping rubbish, evict them. Carolyn43
  • Score: 7

8:17am Wed 18 Jun 14

politicaltrainspotter says...

When asked by a reporter for her comments Councillor Jane Kelly said 'This is wonderful for Boscombe.' Oh, that record has got stuck and Councillor Wakefield is now masquerading as a garden gnome near the crazy golf area in Boscombe Chine Gardens.If you can't find him, he's the one with the red face.

One resident said “They are trying to improve Boscombe and make it a nicer place to live so to see this is disheartening.” I think you've been inhaling too much Jamacain Old Holborn or suffering the effects of Regeneration bull****.

It just another day in Boscombe ! See the video on youtube.
When asked by a reporter for her comments Councillor Jane Kelly said 'This is wonderful for Boscombe.' Oh, that record has got stuck and Councillor Wakefield is now masquerading as a garden gnome near the crazy golf area in Boscombe Chine Gardens.If you can't find him, he's the one with the red face. One resident said “They are trying to improve Boscombe and make it a nicer place to live so to see this is disheartening.” I think you've been inhaling too much Jamacain Old Holborn or suffering the effects of Regeneration bull****. It just another day in Boscombe ! See the video on youtube. politicaltrainspotter
  • Score: 14

8:25am Wed 18 Jun 14

Gordon Cann says...

A totally unacceptable situation, which,. from the facts given should be addressed this morning and confirmed by a statement to the Echo from the Leader of the Council that this is being done.

It is surely self evident that all residents in Bournemouth have the basic right to be protected from, at the very least,the scourge of vermin

Let me congratulate the Council on the efforts that have made to brighten up the entrance to the town with flowers near , for example, the St.Paul;s roundabout but in this case relating to rubbish they have got it terribly wrong, I suspect that there is a common law responsibility as well as a statutory duty to deal with rubbish and vermin and that they have the appropriate powers to deal with this situation

The attention of the Leader of the Council , Councillor John Beesley
Tony Williams. ChIef Executive of Bournemouth Council and local MP Tobias Ellwood has been drawn to this comment.
A totally unacceptable situation, which,. from the facts given should be addressed this morning and confirmed by a statement to the Echo from the Leader of the Council that this is being done. It is surely self evident that all residents in Bournemouth have the basic right to be protected from, at the very least,the scourge of vermin Let me congratulate the Council on the efforts that have made to brighten up the entrance to the town with flowers near , for example, the St.Paul;s roundabout but in this case relating to rubbish they have got it terribly wrong, I suspect that there is a common law responsibility as well as a statutory duty to deal with rubbish and vermin and that they have the appropriate powers to deal with this situation The attention of the Leader of the Council , Councillor John Beesley Tony Williams. ChIef Executive of Bournemouth Council and local MP Tobias Ellwood has been drawn to this comment. Gordon Cann
  • Score: -8

8:33am Wed 18 Jun 14

High Treason says...

One thing is for sure, many think everything is up to the council. From birth till they die they expect someone else to sort things out. They all have rights but no responsibilities. They want everything but to expect it for free. More people, more rubbish, more resources. more expense. I wonder what it will be like in 20 or so years time.
One thing is for sure, many think everything is up to the council. From birth till they die they expect someone else to sort things out. They all have rights but no responsibilities. They want everything but to expect it for free. More people, more rubbish, more resources. more expense. I wonder what it will be like in 20 or so years time. High Treason
  • Score: 30

8:34am Wed 18 Jun 14

Townee says...

If I have an old fridge or mattress and live in a private house it's my problem to dump them not the councils. Most electrical shop and bed shops will recycle old goods so why didn't these people arrange collection.
It's the norm in a few European countries that they dump things on the side of the road and local councils will collect it but we are not one of those countries.
If I have an old fridge or mattress and live in a private house it's my problem to dump them not the councils. Most electrical shop and bed shops will recycle old goods so why didn't these people arrange collection. It's the norm in a few European countries that they dump things on the side of the road and local councils will collect it but we are not one of those countries. Townee
  • Score: 21

8:51am Wed 18 Jun 14

rozmister says...

It's not the council's responsibility to wipe people's bums for them! The council offer a bin collection service not a free cleaning service for the lazy. These people created that filthy mess and in an ideal world they'd be forced to clear it up rather than wasting our council tax doing it for them!
It's not the council's responsibility to wipe people's bums for them! The council offer a bin collection service not a free cleaning service for the lazy. These people created that filthy mess and in an ideal world they'd be forced to clear it up rather than wasting our council tax doing it for them! rozmister
  • Score: 27

8:52am Wed 18 Jun 14

Dibbles2 says...

What strikes me with this story is the amount of people blaming the council. Its a different story when its the travellers dumping rubbish and lets be honest its not like they dump fridges. This is the responsibility of the landlord and the residents.

On another note the council make it so difficult for people to get rid of things like fridges and people on low income cannot afford the disposal fees. I myself live a two minute drive from Millhams tip but am not allowed to use it as I live in Poole so all the good in recycling etc goes out of the window when I have to go to Poole and queue for half an hour emitting more poisonous gases than necessary when ultimately the goal is to save our environment.

Incidentally do people know they can have large items collected by the council in deprived areas like Boscombe twice a year? (may have changed now).

I agree this is yet another non story, especially when there are two murder trials on the go that seem to have a lack of reporting on like the last one. Emailed the editor about this but was ignored.
What strikes me with this story is the amount of people blaming the council. Its a different story when its the travellers dumping rubbish and lets be honest its not like they dump fridges. This is the responsibility of the landlord and the residents. On another note the council make it so difficult for people to get rid of things like fridges and people on low income cannot afford the disposal fees. I myself live a two minute drive from Millhams tip but am not allowed to use it as I live in Poole so all the good in recycling etc goes out of the window when I have to go to Poole and queue for half an hour emitting more poisonous gases than necessary when ultimately the goal is to save our environment. Incidentally do people know they can have large items collected by the council in deprived areas like Boscombe twice a year? (may have changed now). I agree this is yet another non story, especially when there are two murder trials on the go that seem to have a lack of reporting on like the last one. Emailed the editor about this but was ignored. Dibbles2
  • Score: 8

8:59am Wed 18 Jun 14

Baysider says...

Gordon Cann wrote:
A totally unacceptable situation, which,. from the facts given should be addressed this morning and confirmed by a statement to the Echo from the Leader of the Council that this is being done.

It is surely self evident that all residents in Bournemouth have the basic right to be protected from, at the very least,the scourge of vermin

Let me congratulate the Council on the efforts that have made to brighten up the entrance to the town with flowers near , for example, the St.Paul;s roundabout but in this case relating to rubbish they have got it terribly wrong, I suspect that there is a common law responsibility as well as a statutory duty to deal with rubbish and vermin and that they have the appropriate powers to deal with this situation

The attention of the Leader of the Council , Councillor John Beesley
Tony Williams. ChIef Executive of Bournemouth Council and local MP Tobias Ellwood has been drawn to this comment.
...but they are dealing with it. If you bothered to read the story you will see they have made the landowner get someone to shift the fridges, old toilet cisterns, mattresses, etc that have prevented them from carrying out a normal collection. Seems to me the council have done exactly what they should have done and no apology or further comment is required even if you have seen fit to draw your confused views to the attention of all and sundry.
[quote][p][bold]Gordon Cann[/bold] wrote: A totally unacceptable situation, which,. from the facts given should be addressed this morning and confirmed by a statement to the Echo from the Leader of the Council that this is being done. It is surely self evident that all residents in Bournemouth have the basic right to be protected from, at the very least,the scourge of vermin Let me congratulate the Council on the efforts that have made to brighten up the entrance to the town with flowers near , for example, the St.Paul;s roundabout but in this case relating to rubbish they have got it terribly wrong, I suspect that there is a common law responsibility as well as a statutory duty to deal with rubbish and vermin and that they have the appropriate powers to deal with this situation The attention of the Leader of the Council , Councillor John Beesley Tony Williams. ChIef Executive of Bournemouth Council and local MP Tobias Ellwood has been drawn to this comment.[/p][/quote]...but they are dealing with it. If you bothered to read the story you will see they have made the landowner get someone to shift the fridges, old toilet cisterns, mattresses, etc that have prevented them from carrying out a normal collection. Seems to me the council have done exactly what they should have done and no apology or further comment is required even if you have seen fit to draw your confused views to the attention of all and sundry. Baysider
  • Score: 19

9:04am Wed 18 Jun 14

Bloss45 says...

"Ask not what your Council can do for you ............ " (part stolen from President Kennedy)
"Ask not what your Council can do for you ............ " (part stolen from President Kennedy) Bloss45
  • Score: 6

9:05am Wed 18 Jun 14

Baysider says...

Gordon Cann wrote:
A totally unacceptable situation, which,. from the facts given should be addressed this morning and confirmed by a statement to the Echo from the Leader of the Council that this is being done.

It is surely self evident that all residents in Bournemouth have the basic right to be protected from, at the very least,the scourge of vermin

Let me congratulate the Council on the efforts that have made to brighten up the entrance to the town with flowers near , for example, the St.Paul;s roundabout but in this case relating to rubbish they have got it terribly wrong, I suspect that there is a common law responsibility as well as a statutory duty to deal with rubbish and vermin and that they have the appropriate powers to deal with this situation

The attention of the Leader of the Council , Councillor John Beesley
Tony Williams. ChIef Executive of Bournemouth Council and local MP Tobias Ellwood has been drawn to this comment.
I think you're confusing the length of your comments with their relevance to the issue. The council HAVE carried out their duties in getting the landlord to get the stuff shifted in order to get back to regular domestic rubbish collections. What else did you want them to do then?
[quote][p][bold]Gordon Cann[/bold] wrote: A totally unacceptable situation, which,. from the facts given should be addressed this morning and confirmed by a statement to the Echo from the Leader of the Council that this is being done. It is surely self evident that all residents in Bournemouth have the basic right to be protected from, at the very least,the scourge of vermin Let me congratulate the Council on the efforts that have made to brighten up the entrance to the town with flowers near , for example, the St.Paul;s roundabout but in this case relating to rubbish they have got it terribly wrong, I suspect that there is a common law responsibility as well as a statutory duty to deal with rubbish and vermin and that they have the appropriate powers to deal with this situation The attention of the Leader of the Council , Councillor John Beesley Tony Williams. ChIef Executive of Bournemouth Council and local MP Tobias Ellwood has been drawn to this comment.[/p][/quote]I think you're confusing the length of your comments with their relevance to the issue. The council HAVE carried out their duties in getting the landlord to get the stuff shifted in order to get back to regular domestic rubbish collections. What else did you want them to do then? Baysider
  • Score: 16

9:07am Wed 18 Jun 14

pacerman says...

nobull wrote:
We would all have tip out side our properties if we were lazy *astards. get of your lazy fat ar*ses and remove it to the correct place.Take some responsibility......

........... (nobody should dump large items by the road) Grrrrrrrr.
Why SHOULD 'the carncil' clear rubbish on private land? Pride in Boscombe?
Bursting with gay pride perhaps, but civic pride - not a chance! Get a grip, Skag City!
[quote][p][bold]nobull[/bold] wrote: We would all have tip out side our properties if we were lazy *astards. get of your lazy fat ar*ses and remove it to the correct place.Take some responsibility...... ........... (nobody should dump large items by the road) Grrrrrrrr.[/p][/quote]Why SHOULD 'the carncil' clear rubbish on private land? Pride in Boscombe? Bursting with gay pride perhaps, but civic pride - not a chance! Get a grip, Skag City! pacerman
  • Score: -1

9:49am Wed 18 Jun 14

Gordon Cann says...

To Baysider

The simple question is whether the rubbish is still there and will still be there by middday
To Baysider The simple question is whether the rubbish is still there and will still be there by middday Gordon Cann
  • Score: -6

10:02am Wed 18 Jun 14

BH1 loyal says...

politicaltrainspotte
r
wrote:
When asked by a reporter for her comments Councillor Jane Kelly said 'This is wonderful for Boscombe.' Oh, that record has got stuck and Councillor Wakefield is now masquerading as a garden gnome near the crazy golf area in Boscombe Chine Gardens.If you can't find him, he's the one with the red face.

One resident said “They are trying to improve Boscombe and make it a nicer place to live so to see this is disheartening.” I think you've been inhaling too much Jamacain Old Holborn or suffering the effects of Regeneration bull****.

It just another day in Boscombe ! See the video on youtube.
That was a day in boscombe........7 years ago, very late.
[quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: When asked by a reporter for her comments Councillor Jane Kelly said 'This is wonderful for Boscombe.' Oh, that record has got stuck and Councillor Wakefield is now masquerading as a garden gnome near the crazy golf area in Boscombe Chine Gardens.If you can't find him, he's the one with the red face. One resident said “They are trying to improve Boscombe and make it a nicer place to live so to see this is disheartening.” I think you've been inhaling too much Jamacain Old Holborn or suffering the effects of Regeneration bull****. It just another day in Boscombe ! See the video on youtube.[/p][/quote]That was a day in boscombe........7 years ago, very late. BH1 loyal
  • Score: 4

10:06am Wed 18 Jun 14

BH1 loyal says...

pacerman wrote:
nobull wrote:
We would all have tip out side our properties if we were lazy *astards. get of your lazy fat ar*ses and remove it to the correct place.Take some responsibility......


........... (nobody should dump large items by the road) Grrrrrrrr.
Why SHOULD 'the carncil' clear rubbish on private land? Pride in Boscombe?
Bursting with gay pride perhaps, but civic pride - not a chance! Get a grip, Skag City!
Would be very interested to hear where you live, please let us know, u seem upset has "skag" affected someone close to you? There's probably someone who can help you.
[quote][p][bold]pacerman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nobull[/bold] wrote: We would all have tip out side our properties if we were lazy *astards. get of your lazy fat ar*ses and remove it to the correct place.Take some responsibility...... ........... (nobody should dump large items by the road) Grrrrrrrr.[/p][/quote]Why SHOULD 'the carncil' clear rubbish on private land? Pride in Boscombe? Bursting with gay pride perhaps, but civic pride - not a chance! Get a grip, Skag City![/p][/quote]Would be very interested to hear where you live, please let us know, u seem upset has "skag" affected someone close to you? There's probably someone who can help you. BH1 loyal
  • Score: 2

10:08am Wed 18 Jun 14

Parkstonian says...

Carolyn43 wrote:
Doesn't matter who dumped it - it's a health hazard now and needs clearing NOW. The council should get it cleared (although I wouldn't like to be one of the heroes who handles the stuff), and then send the bill to the managing agents.

Set up CCTV to identify anyone dumping after that and take legal action against them. If it's shows someone living in the flats dumping rubbish, evict them.
My sentiments entirely -well said!
[quote][p][bold]Carolyn43[/bold] wrote: Doesn't matter who dumped it - it's a health hazard now and needs clearing NOW. The council should get it cleared (although I wouldn't like to be one of the heroes who handles the stuff), and then send the bill to the managing agents. Set up CCTV to identify anyone dumping after that and take legal action against them. If it's shows someone living in the flats dumping rubbish, evict them.[/p][/quote]My sentiments entirely -well said! Parkstonian
  • Score: 3

10:31am Wed 18 Jun 14

Bob49 says...

The council is not entirely blameless here. If you visit Boscombe one thing you will notice is the way rubbish is piled up in and around the bins with virtually no attempt to sort the stuff into recyclable items.

Try doing that elsewhwere and you will certainly incur the wrath of the council, so why not in Boscombe. If the residents won't then enforce action upon the landlords and letting agents, as the cost in landfill charges falls upon the rest of us.

Far better if the council and Boscombe councillors concentrated on this sort of stuff rather than wasting hundreds of thousands of pounds on making a mess of the Crescent Gardens or dumping scrap iron along Sea Road.

But then, getting the basics right wouldn't make for such a good photo opportunity would it ?
The council is not entirely blameless here. If you visit Boscombe one thing you will notice is the way rubbish is piled up in and around the bins with virtually no attempt to sort the stuff into recyclable items. Try doing that elsewhwere and you will certainly incur the wrath of the council, so why not in Boscombe. If the residents won't then enforce action upon the landlords and letting agents, as the cost in landfill charges falls upon the rest of us. Far better if the council and Boscombe councillors concentrated on this sort of stuff rather than wasting hundreds of thousands of pounds on making a mess of the Crescent Gardens or dumping scrap iron along Sea Road. But then, getting the basics right wouldn't make for such a good photo opportunity would it ? Bob49
  • Score: -4

10:42am Wed 18 Jun 14

Isosceles says...

Dibbles2 says... I myself live a two minute drive from Millhams tip but am not allowed to use it as I live in Poole.

How do they know that you live in Poole - do you have a big notice on your vehicle which says 'I live in Poole'?
Dibbles2 says... I myself live a two minute drive from Millhams tip but am not allowed to use it as I live in Poole. How do they know that you live in Poole - do you have a big notice on your vehicle which says 'I live in Poole'? Isosceles
  • Score: -10

10:50am Wed 18 Jun 14

In Absentia says...

Isosceles wrote:
Dibbles2 says... I myself live a two minute drive from Millhams tip but am not allowed to use it as I live in Poole. How do they know that you live in Poole - do you have a big notice on your vehicle which says 'I live in Poole'?
You have to show ID when you go there to prove you're entitled to use the facility.

The Echo could easily have done some searches and named and shamed the owners of the property here. It's too easy to blame the council for the shoddy behaviour of the local residents.
[quote][p][bold]Isosceles[/bold] wrote: Dibbles2 says... I myself live a two minute drive from Millhams tip but am not allowed to use it as I live in Poole. How do they know that you live in Poole - do you have a big notice on your vehicle which says 'I live in Poole'?[/p][/quote]You have to show ID when you go there to prove you're entitled to use the facility. The Echo could easily have done some searches and named and shamed the owners of the property here. It's too easy to blame the council for the shoddy behaviour of the local residents. In Absentia
  • Score: 7

11:12am Wed 18 Jun 14

Maverick1979 says...

What i don't understand is that the general consensus from most comments are that people need to take responsibility for themselves, and i whole heartedly agree. It's private land, take some ownership and responsibility and sort it out yourselves. This is common sense. Which begs the question, when these lazy b*ggers contacted the echo, why do the reporters not use their common sense, and say 'hang on, we are not going to publish this story and lay blame on the council, when in fact you should be sorting it yourselves' - but no! Shame on the Echo!
What i don't understand is that the general consensus from most comments are that people need to take responsibility for themselves, and i whole heartedly agree. It's private land, take some ownership and responsibility and sort it out yourselves. This is common sense. Which begs the question, when these lazy b*ggers contacted the echo, why do the reporters not use their common sense, and say 'hang on, we are not going to publish this story and lay blame on the council, when in fact you should be sorting it yourselves' - but no! Shame on the Echo! Maverick1979
  • Score: 18

11:33am Wed 18 Jun 14

Bob49 says...

In Absentia wrote:
Isosceles wrote:
Dibbles2 says... I myself live a two minute drive from Millhams tip but am not allowed to use it as I live in Poole. How do they know that you live in Poole - do you have a big notice on your vehicle which says 'I live in Poole'?
You have to show ID when you go there to prove you're entitled to use the facility.

The Echo could easily have done some searches and named and shamed the owners of the property here. It's too easy to blame the council for the shoddy behaviour of the local residents.
But if the council is not putting any sanctions on both residents (hard to trace) or owners/agents (they know who they are) then they must carry a huge part of the blame.

More so as they have a greater responsibility to the wider community - it's called a duty of care.

If a factory was polluting the environment then it would be the council's responsibility to act against the factory. That action does not negate the factory's responsibility or liability, but the council cannot simply wash it's hands of it's responsibility to act.

Perhaps the council could tell us how much is the cost of burying unsorted rubbish collected from Boscombe. I'm sure the Daily Echo could ask if it wanted.
[quote][p][bold]In Absentia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Isosceles[/bold] wrote: Dibbles2 says... I myself live a two minute drive from Millhams tip but am not allowed to use it as I live in Poole. How do they know that you live in Poole - do you have a big notice on your vehicle which says 'I live in Poole'?[/p][/quote]You have to show ID when you go there to prove you're entitled to use the facility. The Echo could easily have done some searches and named and shamed the owners of the property here. It's too easy to blame the council for the shoddy behaviour of the local residents.[/p][/quote]But if the council is not putting any sanctions on both residents (hard to trace) or owners/agents (they know who they are) then they must carry a huge part of the blame. More so as they have a greater responsibility to the wider community - it's called a duty of care. If a factory was polluting the environment then it would be the council's responsibility to act against the factory. That action does not negate the factory's responsibility or liability, but the council cannot simply wash it's hands of it's responsibility to act. Perhaps the council could tell us how much is the cost of burying unsorted rubbish collected from Boscombe. I'm sure the Daily Echo could ask if it wanted. Bob49
  • Score: -1

11:38am Wed 18 Jun 14

Boscgrrl says...

Maverick1979 wrote:
What i don't understand is that the general consensus from most comments are that people need to take responsibility for themselves, and i whole heartedly agree. It's private land, take some ownership and responsibility and sort it out yourselves. This is common sense. Which begs the question, when these lazy b*ggers contacted the echo, why do the reporters not use their common sense, and say 'hang on, we are not going to publish this story and lay blame on the council, when in fact you should be sorting it yourselves' - but no! Shame on the Echo!
The people complaining to the echo are people who live nearby, so it is not their responsibility to clear it up. The landlord has a responsibility to provide a well managed way to dispose of rubbish, and to deal with problems on behalf of his tenants. This has spiralled out of control, not for the first time, because the bin was blocked in and could not be empties. The landlord needs to watch out and make sure the area is kept properly. It is unfair to say the residents of the flats should deal with it, how on earth could they?
Who is the Landlord?
[quote][p][bold]Maverick1979[/bold] wrote: What i don't understand is that the general consensus from most comments are that people need to take responsibility for themselves, and i whole heartedly agree. It's private land, take some ownership and responsibility and sort it out yourselves. This is common sense. Which begs the question, when these lazy b*ggers contacted the echo, why do the reporters not use their common sense, and say 'hang on, we are not going to publish this story and lay blame on the council, when in fact you should be sorting it yourselves' - but no! Shame on the Echo![/p][/quote]The people complaining to the echo are people who live nearby, so it is not their responsibility to clear it up. The landlord has a responsibility to provide a well managed way to dispose of rubbish, and to deal with problems on behalf of his tenants. This has spiralled out of control, not for the first time, because the bin was blocked in and could not be empties. The landlord needs to watch out and make sure the area is kept properly. It is unfair to say the residents of the flats should deal with it, how on earth could they? Who is the Landlord? Boscgrrl
  • Score: 2

11:39am Wed 18 Jun 14

Boscgrrl says...

How do you get rid of bulky items anyway - if you don't have a car?
How do you get rid of bulky items anyway - if you don't have a car? Boscgrrl
  • Score: 2

11:41am Wed 18 Jun 14

Maverick1979 says...

Bob49 wrote:
In Absentia wrote:
Isosceles wrote:
Dibbles2 says... I myself live a two minute drive from Millhams tip but am not allowed to use it as I live in Poole. How do they know that you live in Poole - do you have a big notice on your vehicle which says 'I live in Poole'?
You have to show ID when you go there to prove you're entitled to use the facility.

The Echo could easily have done some searches and named and shamed the owners of the property here. It's too easy to blame the council for the shoddy behaviour of the local residents.
But if the council is not putting any sanctions on both residents (hard to trace) or owners/agents (they know who they are) then they must carry a huge part of the blame.

More so as they have a greater responsibility to the wider community - it's called a duty of care.

If a factory was polluting the environment then it would be the council's responsibility to act against the factory. That action does not negate the factory's responsibility or liability, but the council cannot simply wash it's hands of it's responsibility to act.

Perhaps the council could tell us how much is the cost of burying unsorted rubbish collected from Boscombe. I'm sure the Daily Echo could ask if it wanted.
Factories are the responsibility of the Health & Safety Executive! Maybe you should establish who deals with what before you make comments. And lets not pass the buck here, the residents need to take responsibility for themselves, and the sooner they realise that the better.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]In Absentia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Isosceles[/bold] wrote: Dibbles2 says... I myself live a two minute drive from Millhams tip but am not allowed to use it as I live in Poole. How do they know that you live in Poole - do you have a big notice on your vehicle which says 'I live in Poole'?[/p][/quote]You have to show ID when you go there to prove you're entitled to use the facility. The Echo could easily have done some searches and named and shamed the owners of the property here. It's too easy to blame the council for the shoddy behaviour of the local residents.[/p][/quote]But if the council is not putting any sanctions on both residents (hard to trace) or owners/agents (they know who they are) then they must carry a huge part of the blame. More so as they have a greater responsibility to the wider community - it's called a duty of care. If a factory was polluting the environment then it would be the council's responsibility to act against the factory. That action does not negate the factory's responsibility or liability, but the council cannot simply wash it's hands of it's responsibility to act. Perhaps the council could tell us how much is the cost of burying unsorted rubbish collected from Boscombe. I'm sure the Daily Echo could ask if it wanted.[/p][/quote]Factories are the responsibility of the Health & Safety Executive! Maybe you should establish who deals with what before you make comments. And lets not pass the buck here, the residents need to take responsibility for themselves, and the sooner they realise that the better. Maverick1979
  • Score: 6

11:50am Wed 18 Jun 14

whataboutthat says...

Stop trashing the council - they don't dump rubbish.
Stop trashing the council - they don't dump rubbish. whataboutthat
  • Score: 7

11:55am Wed 18 Jun 14

Dibbles2 says...

Boscgrrl wrote:
How do you get rid of bulky items anyway - if you don't have a car?
The council pick up a certain amount a year on a rolling basis. So example you can have 2 items picked up in June and cant have any more until next June. However I dont think this is provided in all areas of Bournemouth!
[quote][p][bold]Boscgrrl[/bold] wrote: How do you get rid of bulky items anyway - if you don't have a car?[/p][/quote]The council pick up a certain amount a year on a rolling basis. So example you can have 2 items picked up in June and cant have any more until next June. However I dont think this is provided in all areas of Bournemouth! Dibbles2
  • Score: 0

11:58am Wed 18 Jun 14

woby_tide says...

Boscgrrl wrote:
How do you get rid of bulky items anyway - if you don't have a car?
Put them on the pavement and then complain to the Echo and then claim it's someone elses problem.

Or you could just pay for someone to take it away like a responsible citizen. It's not tricky.
[quote][p][bold]Boscgrrl[/bold] wrote: How do you get rid of bulky items anyway - if you don't have a car?[/p][/quote]Put them on the pavement and then complain to the Echo and then claim it's someone elses problem. Or you could just pay for someone to take it away like a responsible citizen. It's not tricky. woby_tide
  • Score: 11

12:08pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Lord Spring says...

Townee wrote:
If I have an old fridge or mattress and live in a private house it's my problem to dump them not the councils. Most electrical shop and bed shops will recycle old goods so why didn't these people arrange collection.
It's the norm in a few European countries that they dump things on the side of the road and local councils will collect it but we are not one of those countries.
We are not be in one of those countries but those countries residents habits have migrated here with them.
[quote][p][bold]Townee[/bold] wrote: If I have an old fridge or mattress and live in a private house it's my problem to dump them not the councils. Most electrical shop and bed shops will recycle old goods so why didn't these people arrange collection. It's the norm in a few European countries that they dump things on the side of the road and local councils will collect it but we are not one of those countries.[/p][/quote]We are not be in one of those countries but those countries residents habits have migrated here with them. Lord Spring
  • Score: 3

12:15pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Lord Spring says...

Boscgrrl wrote:
How do you get rid of bulky items anyway - if you don't have a car?
How do you obtain bulky items. if you don't have a car
[quote][p][bold]Boscgrrl[/bold] wrote: How do you get rid of bulky items anyway - if you don't have a car?[/p][/quote]How do you obtain bulky items. if you don't have a car Lord Spring
  • Score: 8

12:22pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Gonetothebeach says...

Phixer wrote:
'A spokesman for Bournemouth Borough Council said “The rubbish has since piled on top of the bulky goods but because this is a private property we are not obliged to clear the bulky goods,”

Well, that's alright then. Never mind any health hazard, as long as Mr Jobsworth can wring his hands of the matter.

I pay Mr Jobsworth to ensure that my environment is kept safe to live in; I'll be happy to accept Mr Jobsworth's resignation for dereliction of duty; taking money under false pretences.
Don't really see how you make this out to be the fault of the council or their responsibility to clear? It's the fault of the thoughtless people who have dumped bulky items assuming that someone else will clean up after them. It is primarily the responsibility of the residents on whose land it is to sort it out. The council is just the back stop and quite properly should only intervene if there is a public health hazard.
[quote][p][bold]Phixer[/bold] wrote: 'A spokesman for Bournemouth Borough Council said “The rubbish has since piled on top of the bulky goods but because this is a private property we are not obliged to clear the bulky goods,” Well, that's alright then. Never mind any health hazard, as long as Mr Jobsworth can wring his hands of the matter. I pay Mr Jobsworth to ensure that my environment is kept safe to live in; I'll be happy to accept Mr Jobsworth's resignation for dereliction of duty; taking money under false pretences.[/p][/quote]Don't really see how you make this out to be the fault of the council or their responsibility to clear? It's the fault of the thoughtless people who have dumped bulky items assuming that someone else will clean up after them. It is primarily the responsibility of the residents on whose land it is to sort it out. The council is just the back stop and quite properly should only intervene if there is a public health hazard. Gonetothebeach
  • Score: 8

12:23pm Wed 18 Jun 14

nobull says...

How come the Echo is not taken straight to the tip,(work it out)
How come the Echo is not taken straight to the tip,(work it out) nobull
  • Score: -1

12:23pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Maverick1979 says...

Lord Spring wrote:
Boscgrrl wrote:
How do you get rid of bulky items anyway - if you don't have a car?
How do you obtain bulky items. if you don't have a car
What happens if you want to move house? How do you get all those bulky items from one house to another, if you don't have a car?
[quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boscgrrl[/bold] wrote: How do you get rid of bulky items anyway - if you don't have a car?[/p][/quote]How do you obtain bulky items. if you don't have a car[/p][/quote]What happens if you want to move house? How do you get all those bulky items from one house to another, if you don't have a car? Maverick1979
  • Score: 3

12:30pm Wed 18 Jun 14

alasdair1967 says...

Get to the pound shop purchase some marigolds black bin bags,then get off your backsides and clean your mess which you made not the council move the white goods to enable the access to the bins simples !!!
Get to the pound shop purchase some marigolds black bin bags,then get off your backsides and clean your mess which you made not the council move the white goods to enable the access to the bins simples !!! alasdair1967
  • Score: 7

12:42pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Bob49 says...

Maverick1979 wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
In Absentia wrote:
Isosceles wrote:
Dibbles2 says... I myself live a two minute drive from Millhams tip but am not allowed to use it as I live in Poole. How do they know that you live in Poole - do you have a big notice on your vehicle which says 'I live in Poole'?
You have to show ID when you go there to prove you're entitled to use the facility.

The Echo could easily have done some searches and named and shamed the owners of the property here. It's too easy to blame the council for the shoddy behaviour of the local residents.
But if the council is not putting any sanctions on both residents (hard to trace) or owners/agents (they know who they are) then they must carry a huge part of the blame.

More so as they have a greater responsibility to the wider community - it's called a duty of care.

If a factory was polluting the environment then it would be the council's responsibility to act against the factory. That action does not negate the factory's responsibility or liability, but the council cannot simply wash it's hands of it's responsibility to act.

Perhaps the council could tell us how much is the cost of burying unsorted rubbish collected from Boscombe. I'm sure the Daily Echo could ask if it wanted.
Factories are the responsibility of the Health & Safety Executive! Maybe you should establish who deals with what before you make comments. And lets not pass the buck here, the residents need to take responsibility for themselves, and the sooner they realise that the better.
Bournemouth council HAS responsibility through it's Environmental Health dept, and is the local enforcing authority (why not check)

And if residents won't atke responsibility ? Then you are merely back to what I stated originally that it is the council's responsibility to impose sanctions. Something it has consistently avoided doing for quite some time. hence the problem.



ps maybe you should ask yourself why that is, rather than posting up the misleading old guff you did.
[quote][p][bold]Maverick1979[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]In Absentia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Isosceles[/bold] wrote: Dibbles2 says... I myself live a two minute drive from Millhams tip but am not allowed to use it as I live in Poole. How do they know that you live in Poole - do you have a big notice on your vehicle which says 'I live in Poole'?[/p][/quote]You have to show ID when you go there to prove you're entitled to use the facility. The Echo could easily have done some searches and named and shamed the owners of the property here. It's too easy to blame the council for the shoddy behaviour of the local residents.[/p][/quote]But if the council is not putting any sanctions on both residents (hard to trace) or owners/agents (they know who they are) then they must carry a huge part of the blame. More so as they have a greater responsibility to the wider community - it's called a duty of care. If a factory was polluting the environment then it would be the council's responsibility to act against the factory. That action does not negate the factory's responsibility or liability, but the council cannot simply wash it's hands of it's responsibility to act. Perhaps the council could tell us how much is the cost of burying unsorted rubbish collected from Boscombe. I'm sure the Daily Echo could ask if it wanted.[/p][/quote]Factories are the responsibility of the Health & Safety Executive! Maybe you should establish who deals with what before you make comments. And lets not pass the buck here, the residents need to take responsibility for themselves, and the sooner they realise that the better.[/p][/quote]Bournemouth council HAS responsibility through it's Environmental Health dept, and is the local enforcing authority (why not check) And if residents won't atke responsibility ? Then you are merely back to what I stated originally that it is the council's responsibility to impose sanctions. Something it has consistently avoided doing for quite some time. hence the problem. ps maybe you should ask yourself why that is, rather than posting up the misleading old guff you did. Bob49
  • Score: -3

12:49pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Baysider says...

Gordon Cann wrote:
To Baysider

The simple question is whether the rubbish is still there and will still be there by middday
So what if it is still there now? It was there yesterday one assumes and no one died because of it overnight did they. And no one will die overnight if it's still there tomorrow either. What you're saying is that because this is in the Echo it should be sorted out before everything else is really. There's a decent amount of work sorting out that mess that will take resources away from doing something else. All in order to do something that is the landlords responsibility anyway. Why should someone else suffer a delay to appease your sensibilities?
[quote][p][bold]Gordon Cann[/bold] wrote: To Baysider The simple question is whether the rubbish is still there and will still be there by middday[/p][/quote]So what if it is still there now? It was there yesterday one assumes and no one died because of it overnight did they. And no one will die overnight if it's still there tomorrow either. What you're saying is that because this is in the Echo it should be sorted out before everything else is really. There's a decent amount of work sorting out that mess that will take resources away from doing something else. All in order to do something that is the landlords responsibility anyway. Why should someone else suffer a delay to appease your sensibilities? Baysider
  • Score: 2

12:49pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Maverick1979 says...

Bob49 wrote:
Maverick1979 wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
In Absentia wrote:
Isosceles wrote:
Dibbles2 says... I myself live a two minute drive from Millhams tip but am not allowed to use it as I live in Poole. How do they know that you live in Poole - do you have a big notice on your vehicle which says 'I live in Poole'?
You have to show ID when you go there to prove you're entitled to use the facility.

The Echo could easily have done some searches and named and shamed the owners of the property here. It's too easy to blame the council for the shoddy behaviour of the local residents.
But if the council is not putting any sanctions on both residents (hard to trace) or owners/agents (they know who they are) then they must carry a huge part of the blame.

More so as they have a greater responsibility to the wider community - it's called a duty of care.

If a factory was polluting the environment then it would be the council's responsibility to act against the factory. That action does not negate the factory's responsibility or liability, but the council cannot simply wash it's hands of it's responsibility to act.

Perhaps the council could tell us how much is the cost of burying unsorted rubbish collected from Boscombe. I'm sure the Daily Echo could ask if it wanted.
Factories are the responsibility of the Health & Safety Executive! Maybe you should establish who deals with what before you make comments. And lets not pass the buck here, the residents need to take responsibility for themselves, and the sooner they realise that the better.
Bournemouth council HAS responsibility through it's Environmental Health dept, and is the local enforcing authority (why not check)

And if residents won't atke responsibility ? Then you are merely back to what I stated originally that it is the council's responsibility to impose sanctions. Something it has consistently avoided doing for quite some time. hence the problem.



ps maybe you should ask yourself why that is, rather than posting up the misleading old guff you did.
Not for factories they do not! Maybe you need to read up before commenting your guff!

And exactly what is the health hazard here? Please elaborate. Granted if there is food waste there then potentially it's attracting rats, but to say that is a health hazard is questionable. Many properties suffer that problem along with mice etc, and you treat that via a pest control. If i found evidence of a rat on my property i wouldn't go screaming to the local authority telling them to re-house me elsewhere (and i'm not a council tennant before you ask). Do these white goods cause a health hazard?

It is people like you that blow things way out of proportion! I bet you are one of the residents!
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maverick1979[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]In Absentia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Isosceles[/bold] wrote: Dibbles2 says... I myself live a two minute drive from Millhams tip but am not allowed to use it as I live in Poole. How do they know that you live in Poole - do you have a big notice on your vehicle which says 'I live in Poole'?[/p][/quote]You have to show ID when you go there to prove you're entitled to use the facility. The Echo could easily have done some searches and named and shamed the owners of the property here. It's too easy to blame the council for the shoddy behaviour of the local residents.[/p][/quote]But if the council is not putting any sanctions on both residents (hard to trace) or owners/agents (they know who they are) then they must carry a huge part of the blame. More so as they have a greater responsibility to the wider community - it's called a duty of care. If a factory was polluting the environment then it would be the council's responsibility to act against the factory. That action does not negate the factory's responsibility or liability, but the council cannot simply wash it's hands of it's responsibility to act. Perhaps the council could tell us how much is the cost of burying unsorted rubbish collected from Boscombe. I'm sure the Daily Echo could ask if it wanted.[/p][/quote]Factories are the responsibility of the Health & Safety Executive! Maybe you should establish who deals with what before you make comments. And lets not pass the buck here, the residents need to take responsibility for themselves, and the sooner they realise that the better.[/p][/quote]Bournemouth council HAS responsibility through it's Environmental Health dept, and is the local enforcing authority (why not check) And if residents won't atke responsibility ? Then you are merely back to what I stated originally that it is the council's responsibility to impose sanctions. Something it has consistently avoided doing for quite some time. hence the problem. ps maybe you should ask yourself why that is, rather than posting up the misleading old guff you did.[/p][/quote]Not for factories they do not! Maybe you need to read up before commenting your guff! And exactly what is the health hazard here? Please elaborate. Granted if there is food waste there then potentially it's attracting rats, but to say that is a health hazard is questionable. Many properties suffer that problem along with mice etc, and you treat that via a pest control. If i found evidence of a rat on my property i wouldn't go screaming to the local authority telling them to re-house me elsewhere (and i'm not a council tennant before you ask). Do these white goods cause a health hazard? It is people like you that blow things way out of proportion! I bet you are one of the residents! Maverick1979
  • Score: 3

12:52pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

politicaltrainspotte
r
wrote:
When asked by a reporter for her comments Councillor Jane Kelly said 'This is wonderful for Boscombe.' Oh, that record has got stuck and Councillor Wakefield is now masquerading as a garden gnome near the crazy golf area in Boscombe Chine Gardens.If you can't find him, he's the one with the red face.

One resident said “They are trying to improve Boscombe and make it a nicer place to live so to see this is disheartening.” I think you've been inhaling too much Jamacain Old Holborn or suffering the effects of Regeneration bull****.

It just another day in Boscombe ! See the video on youtube.
Thanks ive just watched that video. The bloke outside the shop at 1.35 minutes made me laugh so hard I only just managed to make it to the w.c.
[quote][p][bold]politicaltrainspotte r[/bold] wrote: When asked by a reporter for her comments Councillor Jane Kelly said 'This is wonderful for Boscombe.' Oh, that record has got stuck and Councillor Wakefield is now masquerading as a garden gnome near the crazy golf area in Boscombe Chine Gardens.If you can't find him, he's the one with the red face. One resident said “They are trying to improve Boscombe and make it a nicer place to live so to see this is disheartening.” I think you've been inhaling too much Jamacain Old Holborn or suffering the effects of Regeneration bull****. It just another day in Boscombe ! See the video on youtube.[/p][/quote]Thanks ive just watched that video. The bloke outside the shop at 1.35 minutes made me laugh so hard I only just managed to make it to the w.c. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 1

12:55pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Boscgrrl says...

Maverick1979 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
Boscgrrl wrote:
How do you get rid of bulky items anyway - if you don't have a car?
How do you obtain bulky items. if you don't have a car
What happens if you want to move house? How do you get all those bulky items from one house to another, if you don't have a car?
The council charge £46 for one bulky item. I can see how a very badly managed bin storage area for a load of flats could attract such items
[quote][p][bold]Maverick1979[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boscgrrl[/bold] wrote: How do you get rid of bulky items anyway - if you don't have a car?[/p][/quote]How do you obtain bulky items. if you don't have a car[/p][/quote]What happens if you want to move house? How do you get all those bulky items from one house to another, if you don't have a car?[/p][/quote]The council charge £46 for one bulky item. I can see how a very badly managed bin storage area for a load of flats could attract such items Boscgrrl
  • Score: 5

1:21pm Wed 18 Jun 14

HRH of Boscombe says...

Looks like my old street in Newham

Bournemouth is going downhill quickly. No matter though so long a we keep lining dodgy BBC councillors pockets
Looks like my old street in Newham Bournemouth is going downhill quickly. No matter though so long a we keep lining dodgy BBC councillors pockets HRH of Boscombe
  • Score: -3

2:21pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Gordon Cann says...

Whatever the position yesterday the Council, Council Leader and Chief Executive now know what the position is.Knowledge means responsibility

If that rubbish with associated vermin is still. there at the end of the day it is because Bournemouth Council. are willing for it stay there.hey have a choice whether to act or not to act.

All residents in Bournemouth are enrtited to effective prorection from vermin
Whatever the position yesterday the Council, Council Leader and Chief Executive now know what the position is.Knowledge means responsibility If that rubbish with associated vermin is still. there at the end of the day it is because Bournemouth Council. are willing for it stay there.hey have a choice whether to act or not to act. All residents in Bournemouth are enrtited to effective prorection from vermin Gordon Cann
  • Score: -3

2:37pm Wed 18 Jun 14

rozmister says...

Dibbles2 wrote:
Boscgrrl wrote:
How do you get rid of bulky items anyway - if you don't have a car?
The council pick up a certain amount a year on a rolling basis. So example you can have 2 items picked up in June and cant have any more until next June. However I dont think this is provided in all areas of Bournemouth!
They don't do this in any part of Bournemouth these days. You pay for every bulky item you have collected unless you live in certain postcodes and are in receipt of certain benefits. There's a minimum charge of £36 and it's not the council who charge it, they've approved a contractor to provide the service and you pay them. This area used to be one of the certain postcodes though so there's really no excuse if the fly tippers or any of the residents were in receipt of income based benefits.
[quote][p][bold]Dibbles2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boscgrrl[/bold] wrote: How do you get rid of bulky items anyway - if you don't have a car?[/p][/quote]The council pick up a certain amount a year on a rolling basis. So example you can have 2 items picked up in June and cant have any more until next June. However I dont think this is provided in all areas of Bournemouth![/p][/quote]They don't do this in any part of Bournemouth these days. You pay for every bulky item you have collected unless you live in certain postcodes and are in receipt of certain benefits. There's a minimum charge of £36 and it's not the council who charge it, they've approved a contractor to provide the service and you pay them. This area used to be one of the certain postcodes though so there's really no excuse if the fly tippers or any of the residents were in receipt of income based benefits. rozmister
  • Score: 2

3:07pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Lord Spring says...

Maverick1979 wrote:
Lord Spring wrote:
Boscgrrl wrote:
How do you get rid of bulky items anyway - if you don't have a car?
How do you obtain bulky items. if you don't have a car
What happens if you want to move house? How do you get all those bulky items from one house to another, if you don't have a car?
Shopping trolley LoL
[quote][p][bold]Maverick1979[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lord Spring[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Boscgrrl[/bold] wrote: How do you get rid of bulky items anyway - if you don't have a car?[/p][/quote]How do you obtain bulky items. if you don't have a car[/p][/quote]What happens if you want to move house? How do you get all those bulky items from one house to another, if you don't have a car?[/p][/quote]Shopping trolley LoL Lord Spring
  • Score: 1

3:18pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Baysider says...

Gordon Cann wrote:
Whatever the position yesterday the Council, Council Leader and Chief Executive now know what the position is.Knowledge means responsibility

If that rubbish with associated vermin is still. there at the end of the day it is because Bournemouth Council. are willing for it stay there.hey have a choice whether to act or not to act.

All residents in Bournemouth are enrtited to effective prorection from vermin
Absolute rubbish if you'll excuse the pun. If the rubbish is still there at the end of the day it's because it is already being dealt with appropriately i.e. by ensuring the responsible party is getting it shifted within an appropriate time and at their expense. You're looking for a stick to beat the council with that's not there. Tbh rats are so prevalent you've probably got rat not too far away from you as you type...should the council come around to yours this afternoon as well?
[quote][p][bold]Gordon Cann[/bold] wrote: Whatever the position yesterday the Council, Council Leader and Chief Executive now know what the position is.Knowledge means responsibility If that rubbish with associated vermin is still. there at the end of the day it is because Bournemouth Council. are willing for it stay there.hey have a choice whether to act or not to act. All residents in Bournemouth are enrtited to effective prorection from vermin[/p][/quote]Absolute rubbish if you'll excuse the pun. If the rubbish is still there at the end of the day it's because it is already being dealt with appropriately i.e. by ensuring the responsible party is getting it shifted within an appropriate time and at their expense. You're looking for a stick to beat the council with that's not there. Tbh rats are so prevalent you've probably got rat not too far away from you as you type...should the council come around to yours this afternoon as well? Baysider
  • Score: 6

3:56pm Wed 18 Jun 14

MrPitiful says...

I remember a time not so long ago when the bin lorry that pulled up wouldn't have even thought of "obligations" and the like - the blokes would have jumped out, had a laugh and slung everything in the back within a few minutes and moved on to the next pile somewhere else.

It used to be called "getting on with the job". It was great! Nobody talked about it - we just used to get things done!

Their bosses wouldn't have even known about it, let alone 25 of them sat around a table for 2 weeks debating it and searching for an excuse not to deal with it.

Mind you, in those times - and I stress not too long ago - people would have had more respect for themselves and their neighbours than to create such a pile of rubbish anyway.
I remember a time not so long ago when the bin lorry that pulled up wouldn't have even thought of "obligations" and the like - the blokes would have jumped out, had a laugh and slung everything in the back within a few minutes and moved on to the next pile somewhere else. It used to be called "getting on with the job". It was great! Nobody talked about it - we just used to get things done! Their bosses wouldn't have even known about it, let alone 25 of them sat around a table for 2 weeks debating it and searching for an excuse not to deal with it. Mind you, in those times - and I stress not too long ago - people would have had more respect for themselves and their neighbours than to create such a pile of rubbish anyway. MrPitiful
  • Score: -1

3:56pm Wed 18 Jun 14

speedy231278 says...

We get the same issue occasionally in Bournemouth. People put stupid stuff in the collection area and the contractor won't take it away. The council trot out the excuse 'private land' yet there are council notices in the collection area saying what you can and cannot put there.

The last time it wasn't collected for over a week and everyone complained, the council used the above excuse yet again. Upon speaking to the lads from Watson CCS who take the rubbish away, it turned out that the they were in dispute with the council and hadn't collected because they'd not been paid!
We get the same issue occasionally in Bournemouth. People put stupid stuff in the collection area and the contractor won't take it away. The council trot out the excuse 'private land' yet there are council notices in the collection area saying what you can and cannot put there. The last time it wasn't collected for over a week and everyone complained, the council used the above excuse yet again. Upon speaking to the lads from Watson CCS who take the rubbish away, it turned out that the they were in dispute with the council and hadn't collected because they'd not been paid! speedy231278
  • Score: -6

4:04pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Hessenford says...

Looks good to me, at least you know your in Boscombe when you see this sort of crap.
Looks good to me, at least you know your in Boscombe when you see this sort of crap. Hessenford
  • Score: -2

4:39pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Baysider says...

MrPitiful wrote:
I remember a time not so long ago when the bin lorry that pulled up wouldn't have even thought of "obligations" and the like - the blokes would have jumped out, had a laugh and slung everything in the back within a few minutes and moved on to the next pile somewhere else.

It used to be called "getting on with the job". It was great! Nobody talked about it - we just used to get things done!

Their bosses wouldn't have even known about it, let alone 25 of them sat around a table for 2 weeks debating it and searching for an excuse not to deal with it.

Mind you, in those times - and I stress not too long ago - people would have had more respect for themselves and their neighbours than to create such a pile of rubbish anyway.
Not so long ago maybe they were resourced properly therefore maybe had the time to do it too eh?
[quote][p][bold]MrPitiful[/bold] wrote: I remember a time not so long ago when the bin lorry that pulled up wouldn't have even thought of "obligations" and the like - the blokes would have jumped out, had a laugh and slung everything in the back within a few minutes and moved on to the next pile somewhere else. It used to be called "getting on with the job". It was great! Nobody talked about it - we just used to get things done! Their bosses wouldn't have even known about it, let alone 25 of them sat around a table for 2 weeks debating it and searching for an excuse not to deal with it. Mind you, in those times - and I stress not too long ago - people would have had more respect for themselves and their neighbours than to create such a pile of rubbish anyway.[/p][/quote]Not so long ago maybe they were resourced properly therefore maybe had the time to do it too eh? Baysider
  • Score: 2

4:47pm Wed 18 Jun 14

churchill gardens resident says...

lets face it It is boscombe not canford cliffs
lets face it It is boscombe not canford cliffs churchill gardens resident
  • Score: 1

4:59pm Wed 18 Jun 14

steveatbournemouth says...

nobull wrote:
We would all have tip out side our properties if we were lazy *astards. get of your lazy fat ar*ses and remove it to the correct place.Take some responsibility......

........... (nobody should dump large items by the road) Grrrrrrrr.
I agree - TAKE RESPONSIBILITY like the rest of us have to!!!!!!!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]nobull[/bold] wrote: We would all have tip out side our properties if we were lazy *astards. get of your lazy fat ar*ses and remove it to the correct place.Take some responsibility...... ........... (nobody should dump large items by the road) Grrrrrrrr.[/p][/quote]I agree - TAKE RESPONSIBILITY like the rest of us have to!!!!!!!!!!!! steveatbournemouth
  • Score: 4

5:53pm Wed 18 Jun 14

GeorgeW64 says...

Walpole Lane has always been a tipping ground.
Walpole Lane has always been a tipping ground. GeorgeW64
  • Score: 2

6:46pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

Free Maggots.

I agree, no creature should be held against their will.
Free Maggots. I agree, no creature should be held against their will. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 5

7:20pm Wed 18 Jun 14

TWERLY says...

An opportunity for the Irish Travellers camped at the rear of the BIC to make a bob or two per chance !!??
An opportunity for the Irish Travellers camped at the rear of the BIC to make a bob or two per chance !!?? TWERLY
  • Score: 2

8:43pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Understated says...

you know... you could probably take all that to a modern art gallery and make a fortune..
you know... you could probably take all that to a modern art gallery and make a fortune.. Understated
  • Score: 1

8:54pm Wed 18 Jun 14

juniperberry says...

churchill gardens resident wrote:
Where is that Jane Kelly when you want her in her fluoresent yellow vest & hard hat with the words on the back "Backing Boscombe" on it Miles away I guess
And has someone actually contacted Jane Kelly or are you expecting her to be psychic?
[quote][p][bold]churchill gardens resident[/bold] wrote: Where is that Jane Kelly when you want her in her fluoresent yellow vest & hard hat with the words on the back "Backing Boscombe" on it Miles away I guess[/p][/quote]And has someone actually contacted Jane Kelly or are you expecting her to be psychic? juniperberry
  • Score: 2

10:41pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Yankee1 says...

Boscombe 'In Bloom'?
Boscombe 'In Bloom'? Yankee1
  • Score: 0

10:54pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Bob49 says...

Maverick1979 wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
Maverick1979 wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
In Absentia wrote:
Isosceles wrote:
Dibbles2 says... I myself live a two minute drive from Millhams tip but am not allowed to use it as I live in Poole. How do they know that you live in Poole - do you have a big notice on your vehicle which says 'I live in Poole'?
You have to show ID when you go there to prove you're entitled to use the facility.

The Echo could easily have done some searches and named and shamed the owners of the property here. It's too easy to blame the council for the shoddy behaviour of the local residents.
But if the council is not putting any sanctions on both residents (hard to trace) or owners/agents (they know who they are) then they must carry a huge part of the blame.

More so as they have a greater responsibility to the wider community - it's called a duty of care.

If a factory was polluting the environment then it would be the council's responsibility to act against the factory. That action does not negate the factory's responsibility or liability, but the council cannot simply wash it's hands of it's responsibility to act.

Perhaps the council could tell us how much is the cost of burying unsorted rubbish collected from Boscombe. I'm sure the Daily Echo could ask if it wanted.
Factories are the responsibility of the Health & Safety Executive! Maybe you should establish who deals with what before you make comments. And lets not pass the buck here, the residents need to take responsibility for themselves, and the sooner they realise that the better.
Bournemouth council HAS responsibility through it's Environmental Health dept, and is the local enforcing authority (why not check)

And if residents won't atke responsibility ? Then you are merely back to what I stated originally that it is the council's responsibility to impose sanctions. Something it has consistently avoided doing for quite some time. hence the problem.



ps maybe you should ask yourself why that is, rather than posting up the misleading old guff you did.
Not for factories they do not! Maybe you need to read up before commenting your guff!

And exactly what is the health hazard here? Please elaborate. Granted if there is food waste there then potentially it's attracting rats, but to say that is a health hazard is questionable. Many properties suffer that problem along with mice etc, and you treat that via a pest control. If i found evidence of a rat on my property i wouldn't go screaming to the local authority telling them to re-house me elsewhere (and i'm not a council tennant before you ask). Do these white goods cause a health hazard?

It is people like you that blow things way out of proportion! I bet you are one of the residents!
Any business within the borough falls under the duristiction of the council and any pollution problem is the responsibility of the council Environmental Health dept.

And you studiously avoided the real question here.

Which is, why has the council not imposed sanctions on those properties where rubbish is not sorted, where it does elsewhere in the borough ?

Why is this ongoing problem never addressed ?

Focus oin that and the rest falls into place.
[quote][p][bold]Maverick1979[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maverick1979[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]In Absentia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Isosceles[/bold] wrote: Dibbles2 says... I myself live a two minute drive from Millhams tip but am not allowed to use it as I live in Poole. How do they know that you live in Poole - do you have a big notice on your vehicle which says 'I live in Poole'?[/p][/quote]You have to show ID when you go there to prove you're entitled to use the facility. The Echo could easily have done some searches and named and shamed the owners of the property here. It's too easy to blame the council for the shoddy behaviour of the local residents.[/p][/quote]But if the council is not putting any sanctions on both residents (hard to trace) or owners/agents (they know who they are) then they must carry a huge part of the blame. More so as they have a greater responsibility to the wider community - it's called a duty of care. If a factory was polluting the environment then it would be the council's responsibility to act against the factory. That action does not negate the factory's responsibility or liability, but the council cannot simply wash it's hands of it's responsibility to act. Perhaps the council could tell us how much is the cost of burying unsorted rubbish collected from Boscombe. I'm sure the Daily Echo could ask if it wanted.[/p][/quote]Factories are the responsibility of the Health & Safety Executive! Maybe you should establish who deals with what before you make comments. And lets not pass the buck here, the residents need to take responsibility for themselves, and the sooner they realise that the better.[/p][/quote]Bournemouth council HAS responsibility through it's Environmental Health dept, and is the local enforcing authority (why not check) And if residents won't atke responsibility ? Then you are merely back to what I stated originally that it is the council's responsibility to impose sanctions. Something it has consistently avoided doing for quite some time. hence the problem. ps maybe you should ask yourself why that is, rather than posting up the misleading old guff you did.[/p][/quote]Not for factories they do not! Maybe you need to read up before commenting your guff! And exactly what is the health hazard here? Please elaborate. Granted if there is food waste there then potentially it's attracting rats, but to say that is a health hazard is questionable. Many properties suffer that problem along with mice etc, and you treat that via a pest control. If i found evidence of a rat on my property i wouldn't go screaming to the local authority telling them to re-house me elsewhere (and i'm not a council tennant before you ask). Do these white goods cause a health hazard? It is people like you that blow things way out of proportion! I bet you are one of the residents![/p][/quote]Any business within the borough falls under the duristiction of the council and any pollution problem is the responsibility of the council Environmental Health dept. And you studiously avoided the real question here. Which is, why has the council not imposed sanctions on those properties where rubbish is not sorted, where it does elsewhere in the borough ? Why is this ongoing problem never addressed ? Focus oin that and the rest falls into place. Bob49
  • Score: 1

11:13pm Wed 18 Jun 14

Baysider says...

Bob49 wrote:
Maverick1979 wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
Maverick1979 wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
In Absentia wrote:
Isosceles wrote:
Dibbles2 says... I myself live a two minute drive from Millhams tip but am not allowed to use it as I live in Poole. How do they know that you live in Poole - do you have a big notice on your vehicle which says 'I live in Poole'?
You have to show ID when you go there to prove you're entitled to use the facility.

The Echo could easily have done some searches and named and shamed the owners of the property here. It's too easy to blame the council for the shoddy behaviour of the local residents.
But if the council is not putting any sanctions on both residents (hard to trace) or owners/agents (they know who they are) then they must carry a huge part of the blame.

More so as they have a greater responsibility to the wider community - it's called a duty of care.

If a factory was polluting the environment then it would be the council's responsibility to act against the factory. That action does not negate the factory's responsibility or liability, but the council cannot simply wash it's hands of it's responsibility to act.

Perhaps the council could tell us how much is the cost of burying unsorted rubbish collected from Boscombe. I'm sure the Daily Echo could ask if it wanted.
Factories are the responsibility of the Health & Safety Executive! Maybe you should establish who deals with what before you make comments. And lets not pass the buck here, the residents need to take responsibility for themselves, and the sooner they realise that the better.
Bournemouth council HAS responsibility through it's Environmental Health dept, and is the local enforcing authority (why not check)

And if residents won't atke responsibility ? Then you are merely back to what I stated originally that it is the council's responsibility to impose sanctions. Something it has consistently avoided doing for quite some time. hence the problem.



ps maybe you should ask yourself why that is, rather than posting up the misleading old guff you did.
Not for factories they do not! Maybe you need to read up before commenting your guff!

And exactly what is the health hazard here? Please elaborate. Granted if there is food waste there then potentially it's attracting rats, but to say that is a health hazard is questionable. Many properties suffer that problem along with mice etc, and you treat that via a pest control. If i found evidence of a rat on my property i wouldn't go screaming to the local authority telling them to re-house me elsewhere (and i'm not a council tennant before you ask). Do these white goods cause a health hazard?

It is people like you that blow things way out of proportion! I bet you are one of the residents!
Any business within the borough falls under the duristiction of the council and any pollution problem is the responsibility of the council Environmental Health dept.

And you studiously avoided the real question here.

Which is, why has the council not imposed sanctions on those properties where rubbish is not sorted, where it does elsewhere in the borough ?

Why is this ongoing problem never addressed ?

Focus oin that and the rest falls into place.
As usual in every subject Bob you're very confident in what the council has NOT done, can I ask how you know what they have or haven't done?
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maverick1979[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maverick1979[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]In Absentia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Isosceles[/bold] wrote: Dibbles2 says... I myself live a two minute drive from Millhams tip but am not allowed to use it as I live in Poole. How do they know that you live in Poole - do you have a big notice on your vehicle which says 'I live in Poole'?[/p][/quote]You have to show ID when you go there to prove you're entitled to use the facility. The Echo could easily have done some searches and named and shamed the owners of the property here. It's too easy to blame the council for the shoddy behaviour of the local residents.[/p][/quote]But if the council is not putting any sanctions on both residents (hard to trace) or owners/agents (they know who they are) then they must carry a huge part of the blame. More so as they have a greater responsibility to the wider community - it's called a duty of care. If a factory was polluting the environment then it would be the council's responsibility to act against the factory. That action does not negate the factory's responsibility or liability, but the council cannot simply wash it's hands of it's responsibility to act. Perhaps the council could tell us how much is the cost of burying unsorted rubbish collected from Boscombe. I'm sure the Daily Echo could ask if it wanted.[/p][/quote]Factories are the responsibility of the Health & Safety Executive! Maybe you should establish who deals with what before you make comments. And lets not pass the buck here, the residents need to take responsibility for themselves, and the sooner they realise that the better.[/p][/quote]Bournemouth council HAS responsibility through it's Environmental Health dept, and is the local enforcing authority (why not check) And if residents won't atke responsibility ? Then you are merely back to what I stated originally that it is the council's responsibility to impose sanctions. Something it has consistently avoided doing for quite some time. hence the problem. ps maybe you should ask yourself why that is, rather than posting up the misleading old guff you did.[/p][/quote]Not for factories they do not! Maybe you need to read up before commenting your guff! And exactly what is the health hazard here? Please elaborate. Granted if there is food waste there then potentially it's attracting rats, but to say that is a health hazard is questionable. Many properties suffer that problem along with mice etc, and you treat that via a pest control. If i found evidence of a rat on my property i wouldn't go screaming to the local authority telling them to re-house me elsewhere (and i'm not a council tennant before you ask). Do these white goods cause a health hazard? It is people like you that blow things way out of proportion! I bet you are one of the residents![/p][/quote]Any business within the borough falls under the duristiction of the council and any pollution problem is the responsibility of the council Environmental Health dept. And you studiously avoided the real question here. Which is, why has the council not imposed sanctions on those properties where rubbish is not sorted, where it does elsewhere in the borough ? Why is this ongoing problem never addressed ? Focus oin that and the rest falls into place.[/p][/quote]As usual in every subject Bob you're very confident in what the council has NOT done, can I ask how you know what they have or haven't done? Baysider
  • Score: -1

11:15pm Wed 18 Jun 14

HRH of Boscombe says...

Gordon Cann wrote:
Whatever the position yesterday the Council, Council Leader and Chief Executive now know what the position is.Knowledge means responsibility

If that rubbish with associated vermin is still. there at the end of the day it is because Bournemouth Council. are willing for it stay there.hey have a choice whether to act or not to act.

All residents in Bournemouth are enrtited to effective prorection from vermin
Cant you see the 'divide and conquer' works for the council. They keep Boscombe the way it is and keep importing drug addicts to our rehabilitation centres so even poor people hate poor people. Works wonders for tories
[quote][p][bold]Gordon Cann[/bold] wrote: Whatever the position yesterday the Council, Council Leader and Chief Executive now know what the position is.Knowledge means responsibility If that rubbish with associated vermin is still. there at the end of the day it is because Bournemouth Council. are willing for it stay there.hey have a choice whether to act or not to act. All residents in Bournemouth are enrtited to effective prorection from vermin[/p][/quote]Cant you see the 'divide and conquer' works for the council. They keep Boscombe the way it is and keep importing drug addicts to our rehabilitation centres so even poor people hate poor people. Works wonders for tories HRH of Boscombe
  • Score: 2

12:13am Thu 19 Jun 14

Bob49 says...

"As usual in every subject Bob you're very confident in what the council has NOT done, can I ask how you know what they have or haven't done?"


err, I looked at the picture

not too difficult ...... even for you I would have thought
"As usual in every subject Bob you're very confident in what the council has NOT done, can I ask how you know what they have or haven't done?" err, I looked at the picture not too difficult ...... even for you I would have thought Bob49
  • Score: 2

7:07am Thu 19 Jun 14

Baysider says...

Bob49 wrote:
"As usual in every subject Bob you're very confident in what the council has NOT done, can I ask how you know what they have or haven't done?"


err, I looked at the picture

not too difficult ...... even for you I would have thought
Yes but the picture refers to rubbish that the council's Enforcement Team has made the landowners clear up ie exactly what you're saying they don't do. You don't KNOW what action or indeed inaction has been taken or is in progress elsewhere any more than the rest of us. Sadly that doesn't prevent you from presenting your opinions, guesses and prejudice as "facts"...
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: "As usual in every subject Bob you're very confident in what the council has NOT done, can I ask how you know what they have or haven't done?" err, I looked at the picture not too difficult ...... even for you I would have thought[/p][/quote]Yes but the picture refers to rubbish that the council's Enforcement Team has made the landowners clear up ie exactly what you're saying they don't do. You don't KNOW what action or indeed inaction has been taken or is in progress elsewhere any more than the rest of us. Sadly that doesn't prevent you from presenting your opinions, guesses and prejudice as "facts"... Baysider
  • Score: -1

9:09am Thu 19 Jun 14

spooki says...

There's a couple of lazy pigs round our way who delight it bagging their rubbish and dumping on the edge of the road/someone's garden/footpath so it gets kicked by other idiots or raided by foxes. Then the council mower comes by and mows over the cr@p and spreads it all out.
People are the ones who leave the rubbish so blame the people! Why do the council have to follow residents around and pick up after them?
There's a couple of lazy pigs round our way who delight it bagging their rubbish and dumping on the edge of the road/someone's garden/footpath so it gets kicked by other idiots or raided by foxes. Then the council mower comes by and mows over the cr@p and spreads it all out. People are the ones who leave the rubbish so blame the people! Why do the council have to follow residents around and pick up after them? spooki
  • Score: 0

11:11am Thu 19 Jun 14

rozmister says...

speedy231278 wrote:
We get the same issue occasionally in Bournemouth. People put stupid stuff in the collection area and the contractor won't take it away. The council trot out the excuse 'private land' yet there are council notices in the collection area saying what you can and cannot put there.

The last time it wasn't collected for over a week and everyone complained, the council used the above excuse yet again. Upon speaking to the lads from Watson CCS who take the rubbish away, it turned out that the they were in dispute with the council and hadn't collected because they'd not been paid!
Those signs are produced to help you it doesn't mean the council own your collection are (which you'll find is owned by whoever owns your building/the managing agents) or that it's their responsibility to clear up after the filthy pigs that live in your block.

Also Watson CCS don't collect the standard residential rubbish. They do commercial collections and additional services e.g. bulky goods (which you pay them directly for) so that wouldn't affect your collection. Watson CCS come to clear the bin store because your managing agent/landlord has paid for them to do so not because the council have.

If you want your bins collected don't obstruct them. It's pretty simple really.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: We get the same issue occasionally in Bournemouth. People put stupid stuff in the collection area and the contractor won't take it away. The council trot out the excuse 'private land' yet there are council notices in the collection area saying what you can and cannot put there. The last time it wasn't collected for over a week and everyone complained, the council used the above excuse yet again. Upon speaking to the lads from Watson CCS who take the rubbish away, it turned out that the they were in dispute with the council and hadn't collected because they'd not been paid![/p][/quote]Those signs are produced to help you it doesn't mean the council own your collection are (which you'll find is owned by whoever owns your building/the managing agents) or that it's their responsibility to clear up after the filthy pigs that live in your block. Also Watson CCS don't collect the standard residential rubbish. They do commercial collections and additional services e.g. bulky goods (which you pay them directly for) so that wouldn't affect your collection. Watson CCS come to clear the bin store because your managing agent/landlord has paid for them to do so not because the council have. If you want your bins collected don't obstruct them. It's pretty simple really. rozmister
  • Score: 0

11:48am Thu 19 Jun 14

Boscombe Warrior says...

I live near all this and believe me it was a sight!
Maybe the landlords etc should try and educate the tenants. But as a Council tax payer we all pay for refuse collection. so the council is entitled to take the rubbish! But this was going on for a good 4 months, it should have never happened.
As for bulky items the council will remove them, but its costs money and it is not cheap. think this needs to be looked at as not everyone can afford there high fee's.
I guess the people that complained just fed up living in a trash can... This was right by the Crescent where they have just spent thousands on making the place look nice and 5 steps away was this! If the people started to care where they lived Boscombe could be a better place. Just seems no one as any respect.
I live near all this and believe me it was a sight! Maybe the landlords etc should try and educate the tenants. But as a Council tax payer we all pay for refuse collection. so the council is entitled to take the rubbish! But this was going on for a good 4 months, it should have never happened. As for bulky items the council will remove them, but its costs money and it is not cheap. think this needs to be looked at as not everyone can afford there high fee's. I guess the people that complained just fed up living in a trash can... This was right by the Crescent where they have just spent thousands on making the place look nice and 5 steps away was this! If the people started to care where they lived Boscombe could be a better place. Just seems no one as any respect. Boscombe Warrior
  • Score: 2

12:32pm Thu 19 Jun 14

stevobath says...

Townee wrote:
If I have an old fridge or mattress and live in a private house it's my problem to dump them not the councils. Most electrical shop and bed shops will recycle old goods so why didn't these people arrange collection.
It's the norm in a few European countries that they dump things on the side of the road and local councils will collect it but we are not one of those countries.
I live in UK. My council (BANES) provides regular collection of bulky items so it's not a 'Country' thing it's more of a local council policy thing.
[quote][p][bold]Townee[/bold] wrote: If I have an old fridge or mattress and live in a private house it's my problem to dump them not the councils. Most electrical shop and bed shops will recycle old goods so why didn't these people arrange collection. It's the norm in a few European countries that they dump things on the side of the road and local councils will collect it but we are not one of those countries.[/p][/quote]I live in UK. My council (BANES) provides regular collection of bulky items so it's not a 'Country' thing it's more of a local council policy thing. stevobath
  • Score: 1

1:11pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Bob49 says...

Baysider wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
"As usual in every subject Bob you're very confident in what the council has NOT done, can I ask how you know what they have or haven't done?"


err, I looked at the picture

not too difficult ...... even for you I would have thought
Yes but the picture refers to rubbish that the council's Enforcement Team has made the landowners clear up ie exactly what you're saying they don't do. You don't KNOW what action or indeed inaction has been taken or is in progress elsewhere any more than the rest of us. Sadly that doesn't prevent you from presenting your opinions, guesses and prejudice as "facts"...
oh dear

whereas the truth is -

"But this was going on for a good 4 months, it should have never happened." - Boscombe Warrior

(much as I stated)

The council has continued to ignore unsorted rubbish, and makes no attempt to identify those responsible or take action against them. This current story is evidence of this as it has taken so long and only then prompted by media coverage.
[quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: "As usual in every subject Bob you're very confident in what the council has NOT done, can I ask how you know what they have or haven't done?" err, I looked at the picture not too difficult ...... even for you I would have thought[/p][/quote]Yes but the picture refers to rubbish that the council's Enforcement Team has made the landowners clear up ie exactly what you're saying they don't do. You don't KNOW what action or indeed inaction has been taken or is in progress elsewhere any more than the rest of us. Sadly that doesn't prevent you from presenting your opinions, guesses and prejudice as "facts"...[/p][/quote]oh dear whereas the truth is - "But this was going on for a good 4 months, it should have never happened." - Boscombe Warrior (much as I stated) The council has continued to ignore unsorted rubbish, and makes no attempt to identify those responsible or take action against them. This current story is evidence of this as it has taken so long and only then prompted by media coverage. Bob49
  • Score: 2

1:19pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

Its all been cleaned up now.
Its all been cleaned up now. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 1

2:14pm Thu 19 Jun 14

rozmister says...

Bob49 wrote:
Baysider wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
"As usual in every subject Bob you're very confident in what the council has NOT done, can I ask how you know what they have or haven't done?"


err, I looked at the picture

not too difficult ...... even for you I would have thought
Yes but the picture refers to rubbish that the council's Enforcement Team has made the landowners clear up ie exactly what you're saying they don't do. You don't KNOW what action or indeed inaction has been taken or is in progress elsewhere any more than the rest of us. Sadly that doesn't prevent you from presenting your opinions, guesses and prejudice as "facts"...
oh dear

whereas the truth is -

"But this was going on for a good 4 months, it should have never happened." - Boscombe Warrior

(much as I stated)

The council has continued to ignore unsorted rubbish, and makes no attempt to identify those responsible or take action against them. This current story is evidence of this as it has taken so long and only then prompted by media coverage.
The rubbish was being cleared before the Echo even published this story. I saw it being one the afternoon BEFORE this was printed. The bins were emptied the same morning this went out - the council couldn't enforce action on a landlord and find a contractor to go out and do the work that quickly, not for anything less than a life threatening emergency call out situation. If you think the council took action because of the Echo you're deluded.
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baysider[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: "As usual in every subject Bob you're very confident in what the council has NOT done, can I ask how you know what they have or haven't done?" err, I looked at the picture not too difficult ...... even for you I would have thought[/p][/quote]Yes but the picture refers to rubbish that the council's Enforcement Team has made the landowners clear up ie exactly what you're saying they don't do. You don't KNOW what action or indeed inaction has been taken or is in progress elsewhere any more than the rest of us. Sadly that doesn't prevent you from presenting your opinions, guesses and prejudice as "facts"...[/p][/quote]oh dear whereas the truth is - "But this was going on for a good 4 months, it should have never happened." - Boscombe Warrior (much as I stated) The council has continued to ignore unsorted rubbish, and makes no attempt to identify those responsible or take action against them. This current story is evidence of this as it has taken so long and only then prompted by media coverage.[/p][/quote]The rubbish was being cleared before the Echo even published this story. I saw it being one the afternoon BEFORE this was printed. The bins were emptied the same morning this went out - the council couldn't enforce action on a landlord and find a contractor to go out and do the work that quickly, not for anything less than a life threatening emergency call out situation. If you think the council took action because of the Echo you're deluded. rozmister
  • Score: 1

3:01pm Thu 19 Jun 14

Dorset Logic says...

Will this affect my dole money?
Will this affect my dole money? Dorset Logic
  • Score: 0

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