Pervert who took secret videos at Dolphin swimming pool spared jail for indecent images of children

Bournemouth Echo: Sameer Mitter Sameer Mitter

A PERVERT who took secret videos of women and children undressing at a Poole swimming pool has been spared jail for taking indecent images of children.

Bournemouth Crown Court heard on March 26 that IT project manager Sameer Mitter, 35, had admitted four counts of making images and movies of children at levels 1 to 4.

Mitter, of Castle Lane West Bournemouth, also admitted two counts of taking indecent photos of children at the Dolphin Leisure Centre in Poole, and elsewhere in Poole, and two counts of voyeurism at the same locations.

All the offences took place between January 1 and October 31 last year.

Judge Samuel Wiggs imposed a three year community order with a supervision requirement, ordered him to attend a sex offenders course and imposed a Sexual Offences Prevention Order indefinitely.

Back in November last year Mitter also received a three year community order from Bournemouth Magistrates Court after admitting two counts of voyeurism, and the two orders will run concurrently.

Then, the court heard that Mitter had taken pictures of people undressing in the unisex changing area of the Dolphin Leisure Centre in Poole using a camera disguised as a pen.

It was claimed in mitigation that excessive stress from his job at JP Morgan, which he lost as a result of his offences, led him to commit his crimes, and that he had no sexual interest in children.

At the time he told the Daily Echo: “I am really sorry for my behaviour, I didn’t mean to cause anyone any harm, it was like escapism.”

Claude Knights, the CEO of national charity Kidscape which campaigns against child sex abuse, said “firmer action” was required to reflect Mitter’s “abhorrent” crimes.

“Kidscape does not tire of repeating the fact that the creating or taking of indecent images of children is a very serious crime,” he said.

“This offence is repeated every time the picture is viewed.

“A more robust message would also hopefully act as a deterrent to those who are motivated to abuse children and young people.”

Mitter, also listed at an address in Clifford Way, London, also admitted failing to meet the notification requirements of the sex offenders register, which he was ordered to sign for five years.

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12:05pm Mon 7 Apr 14

MrPitiful says...

Wiggsy strikes again!
Wiggsy strikes again! MrPitiful
  • Score: 48

12:08pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Dahlia77 says...

If he no longer has the job that he blamed for the stress last time, and he didn't inform them of a change of address why oh why has he not been jailed? What is wrong with this country? Maybe when he abudcts a child? Oh and then the goverment will spend 3 years and £000000s finding out why he wasn't stopped.
If he no longer has the job that he blamed for the stress last time, and he didn't inform them of a change of address why oh why has he not been jailed? What is wrong with this country? Maybe when he abudcts a child? Oh and then the goverment will spend 3 years and £000000s finding out why he wasn't stopped. Dahlia77
  • Score: 47

12:19pm Mon 7 Apr 14

High Treason says...

Soft UK justice. Why? Is it to save money or liberal hand wringers? If the courts will not impose sentences that act as a deterant the perpetrators simply do it again. Maybe a good thrashing from a victims loved one will prevent him doing it again.
Soft UK justice. Why? Is it to save money or liberal hand wringers? If the courts will not impose sentences that act as a deterant the perpetrators simply do it again. Maybe a good thrashing from a victims loved one will prevent him doing it again. High Treason
  • Score: 41

12:21pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Dahlia77 says...

I also predict that this man WILL re-offend and with tragic results.
I also predict that this man WILL re-offend and with tragic results. Dahlia77
  • Score: 41

12:29pm Mon 7 Apr 14

BarrHumbug says...

Well if he claims the stress of working at JPMorgan made him do it then whats he going to get up to now that he has to manage with the stress of not having a job at a all?
Well if he claims the stress of working at JPMorgan made him do it then whats he going to get up to now that he has to manage with the stress of not having a job at a all? BarrHumbug
  • Score: 32

12:53pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Letcommonsenseprevail says...

Wiggsy at his lousey worst, once again.
Wiggsy at his lousey worst, once again. Letcommonsenseprevail
  • Score: 38

1:10pm Mon 7 Apr 14

TheDistrict says...

Good old Judge Samuel Wiggs, lets another loose gun off. Where is the justice, does he not see this opens the gates for this guy and others to committ such offences knowing they are going to be let off with cautions, community service, etc.

The man is a failure to the judicial system.
Good old Judge Samuel Wiggs, lets another loose gun off. Where is the justice, does he not see this opens the gates for this guy and others to committ such offences knowing they are going to be let off with cautions, community service, etc. The man is a failure to the judicial system. TheDistrict
  • Score: 44

1:27pm Mon 7 Apr 14

boardsandphotos says...

I got as far as the words 'Judge Wiggs' in this report and gave up.
(Although to be able to make an informed comment I did of course read the rest eventually)

I agree with the majority of comments on here, time and time again I see Judge Wigg's name linked to unduly lenient sentences.

I don't buy the escapism excuse that's nonsense, clearly the Sex Offenders Course didn't work and he broke the terms of being on the Sex Offenders Register. He is clearly a serial offender and therefore a custodial sentence is appropriate, he might only be a voyeur now but not all voyeurs stay that way, some eventually move on to far worse crimes.
I got as far as the words 'Judge Wiggs' in this report and gave up. (Although to be able to make an informed comment I did of course read the rest eventually) I agree with the majority of comments on here, time and time again I see Judge Wigg's name linked to unduly lenient sentences. I don't buy the escapism excuse that's nonsense, clearly the Sex Offenders Course didn't work and he broke the terms of being on the Sex Offenders Register. He is clearly a serial offender and therefore a custodial sentence is appropriate, he might only be a voyeur now but not all voyeurs stay that way, some eventually move on to far worse crimes. boardsandphotos
  • Score: 35

1:30pm Mon 7 Apr 14

retry69 says...

TheDistrict wrote:
Good old Judge Samuel Wiggs, lets another loose gun off. Where is the justice, does he not see this opens the gates for this guy and others to committ such offences knowing they are going to be let off with cautions, community service, etc.

The man is a failure to the judicial system.
But the gates are already open as this guy will join those others walking among us who download childp orn and have been allowed their freedom as we are told that "its not in the public interest to jail them".Its in my grandchildrens interest and subsequent generations that these perverts are dealt with in the appropriate manner and that is not happening.
[quote][p][bold]TheDistrict[/bold] wrote: Good old Judge Samuel Wiggs, lets another loose gun off. Where is the justice, does he not see this opens the gates for this guy and others to committ such offences knowing they are going to be let off with cautions, community service, etc. The man is a failure to the judicial system.[/p][/quote]But the gates are already open as this guy will join those others walking among us who download childp orn and have been allowed their freedom as we are told that "its not in the public interest to jail them".Its in my grandchildrens interest and subsequent generations that these perverts are dealt with in the appropriate manner and that is not happening. retry69
  • Score: 21

1:31pm Mon 7 Apr 14

wintonCheryl says...

Bang the nonce up.
Bang the nonce up. wintonCheryl
  • Score: 25

2:47pm Mon 7 Apr 14

keith milton says...

light sentences given by those who are into the same sort of seedy things.

people in wigs and gowns have plenty to hide.
light sentences given by those who are into the same sort of seedy things. people in wigs and gowns have plenty to hide. keith milton
  • Score: -15

2:51pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Victor_Meldrew_Lives! says...

Samuel WIggs - Serial Nonce's best friend!

He should be a Pawn Broker - he'll take anything (excuses/lies/sob stories) in.
Samuel WIggs - Serial Nonce's best friend! He should be a Pawn Broker - he'll take anything (excuses/lies/sob stories) in. Victor_Meldrew_Lives!
  • Score: 21

2:56pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Bournemouth Ohec says...

Many people work under stress but that doesn't mean they go and do what he did.
Many people work under stress but that doesn't mean they go and do what he did. Bournemouth Ohec
  • Score: 21

2:58pm Mon 7 Apr 14

retry69 says...

Victor_Meldrew_Lives
!
wrote:
Samuel WIggs - Serial Nonce's best friend!

He should be a Pawn Broker - he'll take anything (excuses/lies/sob stories) in.
Someone has been jailed for 3+ years lighting a fire in a church and stealing yet the pervs run free to quote you "I don't beliiiiiiiiiiiieeeee
eeeeeeeeeeve it"
[quote][p][bold]Victor_Meldrew_Lives ![/bold] wrote: Samuel WIggs - Serial Nonce's best friend! He should be a Pawn Broker - he'll take anything (excuses/lies/sob stories) in.[/p][/quote]Someone has been jailed for 3+ years lighting a fire in a church and stealing yet the pervs run free to quote you "I don't beliiiiiiiiiiiieeeee eeeeeeeeeeve it" retry69
  • Score: 13

3:30pm Mon 7 Apr 14

sea poole says...

Is there anyone to whom we can complain about Judge Wiggs' continual soft sentencing?
Is there anyone to whom we can complain about Judge Wiggs' continual soft sentencing? sea poole
  • Score: 24

3:40pm Mon 7 Apr 14

O'Reilly says...

sea poole wrote:
Is there anyone to whom we can complain about Judge Wiggs' continual soft sentencing?
Aye.....you could start with this mob...don't know how far it will get you as they are a tight knit 'Club"......

https://www.gov.uk/c
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[quote][p][bold]sea poole[/bold] wrote: Is there anyone to whom we can complain about Judge Wiggs' continual soft sentencing?[/p][/quote]Aye.....you could start with this mob...don't know how far it will get you as they are a tight knit 'Club"...... https://www.gov.uk/c omplain-judge-magist rate-tribunal-corone r O'Reilly
  • Score: 15

4:30pm Mon 7 Apr 14

pete woodley says...

I feel depressed everytime i read excuses from sex perverts,and there ARE a lot around Bournemouth and Poole area ,i am so depressed that even at the age of 79,should i see one i might take a swing,but then i would certainly get locked up,as perverts are a protected species.
I feel depressed everytime i read excuses from sex perverts,and there ARE a lot around Bournemouth and Poole area ,i am so depressed that even at the age of 79,should i see one i might take a swing,but then i would certainly get locked up,as perverts are a protected species. pete woodley
  • Score: 15

4:38pm Mon 7 Apr 14

rozmister says...

Why was he allowed into the swimming pool again?!?! Surely anyone caught behaving like that should be banned from entering public swimming baths for life and if life can't be achieved at least until they've proved themselves to be a reformed character?
Why was he allowed into the swimming pool again?!?! Surely anyone caught behaving like that should be banned from entering public swimming baths for life and if life can't be achieved at least until they've proved themselves to be a reformed character? rozmister
  • Score: 15

4:39pm Mon 7 Apr 14

MMM444 says...

Once again Judge Wiggzy has failed, Google Judge Mental Wiggs, plain to see the man is not fit for purpose. http://theneedleblog
.wordpress.com/2013/
08/16/judge-mental-j
udge-samuel-wiggs/.
Once again Judge Wiggzy has failed, Google Judge Mental Wiggs, plain to see the man is not fit for purpose. http://theneedleblog .wordpress.com/2013/ 08/16/judge-mental-j udge-samuel-wiggs/. MMM444
  • Score: 10

4:41pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Ayles 10 says...

What an absolute disgrace! I'm stressed at work as are probably the majority of us, but surely a 'normal' human being wouldn't think that looking at someone's naked child would make everything better. He sick, twisted & needs to be removed from ours & everyone else's communities before he takes the next, sick step to cure his 'stress' and this turns into a kidnap or murder report.
What an absolute disgrace! I'm stressed at work as are probably the majority of us, but surely a 'normal' human being wouldn't think that looking at someone's naked child would make everything better. He sick, twisted & needs to be removed from ours & everyone else's communities before he takes the next, sick step to cure his 'stress' and this turns into a kidnap or murder report. Ayles 10
  • Score: 11

5:02pm Mon 7 Apr 14

themummy says...

Ok thats enough!!!! WIGGS NEEDS TO GO!!
Ok thats enough!!!! WIGGS NEEDS TO GO!! themummy
  • Score: 17

5:27pm Mon 7 Apr 14

poolebabe says...

Judge Wiggs the perverts friend strikes again. I can't believe he fell for this man's excuse of stress for perving on woman and children, well maybe I can because it's him. It's disgusting. There can never be any reasonable explanation for what he did. So another pervert walks free, and we are meant to believe he will be kept tags on. Has anyone read the "in the dock" lately, with cases of "failing to comply with" such and such order? They still only get a slap on the wrist when they get caught in breech! Where is the deterrent?? He will be helped into employment and get some counselling for his troubles. Make them responsible for their actions!!!! Grrrrr!!!
Judge Wiggs the perverts friend strikes again. I can't believe he fell for this man's excuse of stress for perving on woman and children, well maybe I can because it's him. It's disgusting. There can never be any reasonable explanation for what he did. So another pervert walks free, and we are meant to believe he will be kept tags on. Has anyone read the "in the dock" lately, with cases of "failing to comply with" such and such order? They still only get a slap on the wrist when they get caught in breech! Where is the deterrent?? He will be helped into employment and get some counselling for his troubles. Make them responsible for their actions!!!! Grrrrr!!! poolebabe
  • Score: 13

5:29pm Mon 7 Apr 14

chris100 says...

Dirty pervert if he even looks at my kids il give him a good bloody hiding and if i did i would probly end up in front of judge wigs and I would probly get 3 years
Dirty pervert if he even looks at my kids il give him a good bloody hiding and if i did i would probly end up in front of judge wigs and I would probly get 3 years chris100
  • Score: 6

5:36pm Mon 7 Apr 14

chris100 says...

Check his Facebook page out he seems to have a few young people on it
Check his Facebook page out he seems to have a few young people on it chris100
  • Score: 8

5:41pm Mon 7 Apr 14

poolebabe says...

chris100 wrote:
Check his Facebook page out he seems to have a few young people on it
Quite incredible that he's allowed to use social networking!
[quote][p][bold]chris100[/bold] wrote: Check his Facebook page out he seems to have a few young people on it[/p][/quote]Quite incredible that he's allowed to use social networking! poolebabe
  • Score: 11

5:44pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Huey says...

chris100 wrote:
Dirty pervert if he even looks at my kids il give him a good bloody hiding and if i did i would probly end up in front of judge wigs and I would probly get 3 years
So true
[quote][p][bold]chris100[/bold] wrote: Dirty pervert if he even looks at my kids il give him a good bloody hiding and if i did i would probly end up in front of judge wigs and I would probly get 3 years[/p][/quote]So true Huey
  • Score: -5

5:45pm Mon 7 Apr 14

FNS-man says...

Very partisan comments here. Your children are much more likely to be harmed by a bad driver, and yet there never seem to be any calls to lock up people caught speeding. In all likelihood these drivers are the people who will hurt your children, not perverts like this, however odious they are.
Very partisan comments here. Your children are much more likely to be harmed by a bad driver, and yet there never seem to be any calls to lock up people caught speeding. In all likelihood these drivers are the people who will hurt your children, not perverts like this, however odious they are. FNS-man
  • Score: -15

5:47pm Mon 7 Apr 14

FNS-man says...

Huey wrote:
chris100 wrote: Dirty pervert if he even looks at my kids il give him a good bloody hiding and if i did i would probly end up in front of judge wigs and I would probly get 3 years
So true
And if you went round and burnt his house down whilst he was in it you'd probably also get into trouble. It's political correctness gone mad!
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chris100[/bold] wrote: Dirty pervert if he even looks at my kids il give him a good bloody hiding and if i did i would probly end up in front of judge wigs and I would probly get 3 years[/p][/quote]So true[/p][/quote]And if you went round and burnt his house down whilst he was in it you'd probably also get into trouble. It's political correctness gone mad! FNS-man
  • Score: -1

6:01pm Mon 7 Apr 14

jill M says...

It's time Judge Samuel Wiggs retired, he seems to be living on a different planet to the rest of us-OUR CHILDREN NEED PROTECTING- our police must despair when they do all their hard work, and then see which judge is presiding. Please go Judge Wiggs, before you allow another pervert out to walk freely on our streets!
It's time Judge Samuel Wiggs retired, he seems to be living on a different planet to the rest of us-OUR CHILDREN NEED PROTECTING- our police must despair when they do all their hard work, and then see which judge is presiding. Please go Judge Wiggs, before you allow another pervert out to walk freely on our streets! jill M
  • Score: 14

6:04pm Mon 7 Apr 14

poolebabe says...

FNS-man wrote:
Very partisan comments here. Your children are much more likely to be harmed by a bad driver, and yet there never seem to be any calls to lock up people caught speeding. In all likelihood these drivers are the people who will hurt your children, not perverts like this, however odious they are.
A bad driver does not go out with the intention of harming children, a peado does. It's pot luck which child they choose. A bad driver might not harm anyone. What a stupid comparison.
[quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: Very partisan comments here. Your children are much more likely to be harmed by a bad driver, and yet there never seem to be any calls to lock up people caught speeding. In all likelihood these drivers are the people who will hurt your children, not perverts like this, however odious they are.[/p][/quote]A bad driver does not go out with the intention of harming children, a peado does. It's pot luck which child they choose. A bad driver might not harm anyone. What a stupid comparison. poolebabe
  • Score: 13

6:04pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Bob49 says...

chris100 wrote:
Dirty pervert if he even looks at my kids il give him a good bloody hiding and if i did i would probly end up in front of judge wigs and I would probly get 3 years
Are people still jailed for being stupid ?

No wonder the jails in this country a full to the brim
[quote][p][bold]chris100[/bold] wrote: Dirty pervert if he even looks at my kids il give him a good bloody hiding and if i did i would probly end up in front of judge wigs and I would probly get 3 years[/p][/quote]Are people still jailed for being stupid ? No wonder the jails in this country a full to the brim Bob49
  • Score: -3

6:39pm Mon 7 Apr 14

spooki says...

FNS-man wrote:
Very partisan comments here. Your children are much more likely to be harmed by a bad driver, and yet there never seem to be any calls to lock up people caught speeding. In all likelihood these drivers are the people who will hurt your children, not perverts like this, however odious they are.
So you'd be quite happy for him to take pictures of your child or your family undressing, as long as he doesn't run them over?

What the flipping heck is going on with this judge?
[quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: Very partisan comments here. Your children are much more likely to be harmed by a bad driver, and yet there never seem to be any calls to lock up people caught speeding. In all likelihood these drivers are the people who will hurt your children, not perverts like this, however odious they are.[/p][/quote]So you'd be quite happy for him to take pictures of your child or your family undressing, as long as he doesn't run them over? What the flipping heck is going on with this judge? spooki
  • Score: 11

6:51pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Yankee1 says...

Sameer Mitter. Is that an old Dorset name?

If this happened in the US, his face would be posted online wherever he lives for the rest of his life. And his neighbours would be informed by the police. His house would have signs warning children to stay away at Halloween.

However, we, as a society, need to avoid hyperventilating; calm down; and think. It still beggars belief that parents are scared to take a photo of their two year old in the bath, for fear of being labelled peadophiles, and charged with 'making or possessing child ****'. . Yet they have to wipe their kids bums every day. It is a strange state of affairs.

This man was wrong, and a creep, but if the photos were of his own kids, would that be wrong, too? There is a balance, and it is not found in hysteria. He was wrong; but are we responding sensibly to the whole issue? He will pay the price; but we should not lose perspective.
Sameer Mitter. Is that an old Dorset name? If this happened in the US, his face would be posted online wherever he lives for the rest of his life. And his neighbours would be informed by the police. His house would have signs warning children to stay away at Halloween. However, we, as a society, need to avoid hyperventilating; calm down; and think. It still beggars belief that parents are scared to take a photo of their two year old in the bath, for fear of being labelled peadophiles, and charged with 'making or possessing child ****'. . Yet they have to wipe their kids bums every day. It is a strange state of affairs. This man was wrong, and a creep, but if the photos were of his own kids, would that be wrong, too? There is a balance, and it is not found in hysteria. He was wrong; but are we responding sensibly to the whole issue? He will pay the price; but we should not lose perspective. Yankee1
  • Score: -9

6:52pm Mon 7 Apr 14

Yankee1 says...

wintonCheryl wrote:
Bang the nonce up.
Judge Wiggs?
[quote][p][bold]wintonCheryl[/bold] wrote: Bang the nonce up.[/p][/quote]Judge Wiggs? Yankee1
  • Score: 8

6:58pm Mon 7 Apr 14

ian t says...

i.d like to make a comment , but it would probably be considered as racist , so i wont
i.d like to make a comment , but it would probably be considered as racist , so i wont ian t
  • Score: 9

7:03pm Mon 7 Apr 14

breamoreboy says...

Seems like the guilty party and the judge should be strung up. But as Del Boy suggested, not necessarily by the neck.
Seems like the guilty party and the judge should be strung up. But as Del Boy suggested, not necessarily by the neck. breamoreboy
  • Score: 7

7:49pm Mon 7 Apr 14

billy bumble says...

poolebabe wrote:
Judge Wiggs the perverts friend strikes again. I can't believe he fell for this man's excuse of stress for perving on woman and children, well maybe I can because it's him. It's disgusting. There can never be any reasonable explanation for what he did. So another pervert walks free, and we are meant to believe he will be kept tags on. Has anyone read the "in the dock" lately, with cases of "failing to comply with" such and such order? They still only get a slap on the wrist when they get caught in breech! Where is the deterrent?? He will be helped into employment and get some counselling for his troubles. Make them responsible for their actions!!!! Grrrrr!!!
This so called judge is a disgrace to our Judicial system
[quote][p][bold]poolebabe[/bold] wrote: Judge Wiggs the perverts friend strikes again. I can't believe he fell for this man's excuse of stress for perving on woman and children, well maybe I can because it's him. It's disgusting. There can never be any reasonable explanation for what he did. So another pervert walks free, and we are meant to believe he will be kept tags on. Has anyone read the "in the dock" lately, with cases of "failing to comply with" such and such order? They still only get a slap on the wrist when they get caught in breech! Where is the deterrent?? He will be helped into employment and get some counselling for his troubles. Make them responsible for their actions!!!! Grrrrr!!![/p][/quote]This so called judge is a disgrace to our Judicial system billy bumble
  • Score: 7

8:01pm Mon 7 Apr 14

s-pb2 says...

FNS-man wrote:
Very partisan comments here. Your children are much more likely to be harmed by a bad driver, and yet there never seem to be any calls to lock up people caught speeding. In all likelihood these drivers are the people who will hurt your children, not perverts like this, however odious they are.
Evening Judge Wiggs
[quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: Very partisan comments here. Your children are much more likely to be harmed by a bad driver, and yet there never seem to be any calls to lock up people caught speeding. In all likelihood these drivers are the people who will hurt your children, not perverts like this, however odious they are.[/p][/quote]Evening Judge Wiggs s-pb2
  • Score: 6

8:22pm Mon 7 Apr 14

poolebabe says...

Yankee1 wrote:
Sameer Mitter. Is that an old Dorset name?

If this happened in the US, his face would be posted online wherever he lives for the rest of his life. And his neighbours would be informed by the police. His house would have signs warning children to stay away at Halloween.

However, we, as a society, need to avoid hyperventilating; calm down; and think. It still beggars belief that parents are scared to take a photo of their two year old in the bath, for fear of being labelled peadophiles, and charged with 'making or possessing child ****'. . Yet they have to wipe their kids bums every day. It is a strange state of affairs.

This man was wrong, and a creep, but if the photos were of his own kids, would that be wrong, too? There is a balance, and it is not found in hysteria. He was wrong; but are we responding sensibly to the whole issue? He will pay the price; but we should not lose perspective.
As far as I know, no hysteria or prosecutions have been bought about by someone taking innocent photos of their own babies/toddlers in the bath or labeled a peado or pervert for doing so. There is a clear line here. He deliberately went out with the intention of spying on woman changing (as he so claims) and got caught with pictures and video of children getting undressed/naked. He must have known the risk of filming children in a public swimming baths. Even if "he accidently" took pictures/video of children, he still perved over these woman naked without consent. There are means of accessing nude woman without breaking the law or infringing someone's privacy. As a woman, the thought of someone doing this is disgusting, and with children involved, it's worse. What kind of a person does that? People like that ARE the reason that children can't play naked on a beach or even in their garden. They are the reason for so called hysteria. You don't know who is watching! To do this in a changing room, where you would assume your safety and privacy and that of your children?? That's way over the line and does not relate to a parent wiping their babies bottom!
[quote][p][bold]Yankee1[/bold] wrote: Sameer Mitter. Is that an old Dorset name? If this happened in the US, his face would be posted online wherever he lives for the rest of his life. And his neighbours would be informed by the police. His house would have signs warning children to stay away at Halloween. However, we, as a society, need to avoid hyperventilating; calm down; and think. It still beggars belief that parents are scared to take a photo of their two year old in the bath, for fear of being labelled peadophiles, and charged with 'making or possessing child ****'. . Yet they have to wipe their kids bums every day. It is a strange state of affairs. This man was wrong, and a creep, but if the photos were of his own kids, would that be wrong, too? There is a balance, and it is not found in hysteria. He was wrong; but are we responding sensibly to the whole issue? He will pay the price; but we should not lose perspective.[/p][/quote]As far as I know, no hysteria or prosecutions have been bought about by someone taking innocent photos of their own babies/toddlers in the bath or labeled a peado or pervert for doing so. There is a clear line here. He deliberately went out with the intention of spying on woman changing (as he so claims) and got caught with pictures and video of children getting undressed/naked. He must have known the risk of filming children in a public swimming baths. Even if "he accidently" took pictures/video of children, he still perved over these woman naked without consent. There are means of accessing nude woman without breaking the law or infringing someone's privacy. As a woman, the thought of someone doing this is disgusting, and with children involved, it's worse. What kind of a person does that? People like that ARE the reason that children can't play naked on a beach or even in their garden. They are the reason for so called hysteria. You don't know who is watching! To do this in a changing room, where you would assume your safety and privacy and that of your children?? That's way over the line and does not relate to a parent wiping their babies bottom! poolebabe
  • Score: 10

10:51pm Mon 7 Apr 14

chris100 says...

Bob49 wrote:
chris100 wrote:
Dirty pervert if he even looks at my kids il give him a good bloody hiding and if i did i would probly end up in front of judge wigs and I would probly get 3 years
Are people still jailed for being stupid ?

No wonder the jails in this country a full to the brim
So your saying if he took pics of your kids you wouldn't do anything about it apart from call the police and let judge wiggs give him another let off ??

I'm sorry but he hasn't been caught once but twice what next will he be in the paper for !!! having molesting a young child
[quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chris100[/bold] wrote: Dirty pervert if he even looks at my kids il give him a good bloody hiding and if i did i would probly end up in front of judge wigs and I would probly get 3 years[/p][/quote]Are people still jailed for being stupid ? No wonder the jails in this country a full to the brim[/p][/quote]So your saying if he took pics of your kids you wouldn't do anything about it apart from call the police and let judge wiggs give him another let off ?? I'm sorry but he hasn't been caught once but twice what next will he be in the paper for !!! having molesting a young child chris100
  • Score: 6

2:01am Tue 8 Apr 14

Bob49 says...

chris100 wrote:
Bob49 wrote:
chris100 wrote:
Dirty pervert if he even looks at my kids il give him a good bloody hiding and if i did i would probly end up in front of judge wigs and I would probly get 3 years
Are people still jailed for being stupid ?

No wonder the jails in this country a full to the brim
So your saying if he took pics of your kids you wouldn't do anything about it apart from call the police and let judge wiggs give him another let off ??

I'm sorry but he hasn't been caught once but twice what next will he be in the paper for !!! having molesting a young child
Perhaps you could point out where I said that.

I didn't ,so stop making stuff up
[quote][p][bold]chris100[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bob49[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chris100[/bold] wrote: Dirty pervert if he even looks at my kids il give him a good bloody hiding and if i did i would probly end up in front of judge wigs and I would probly get 3 years[/p][/quote]Are people still jailed for being stupid ? No wonder the jails in this country a full to the brim[/p][/quote]So your saying if he took pics of your kids you wouldn't do anything about it apart from call the police and let judge wiggs give him another let off ?? I'm sorry but he hasn't been caught once but twice what next will he be in the paper for !!! having molesting a young child[/p][/quote]Perhaps you could point out where I said that. I didn't ,so stop making stuff up Bob49
  • Score: 1

2:28am Tue 8 Apr 14

HRH of Boscombe says...

Victor_Meldrew_Lives
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wrote:
Samuel WIggs - Serial Nonce's best friend!

He should be a Pawn Broker - he'll take anything (excuses/lies/sob stories) in.
I would like to see Wiggs' laptop searched!
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There must be some reason he supports the most depraved of our society.
[quote][p][bold]Victor_Meldrew_Lives ![/bold] wrote: Samuel WIggs - Serial Nonce's best friend! He should be a Pawn Broker - he'll take anything (excuses/lies/sob stories) in.[/p][/quote]I would like to see Wiggs' laptop searched! . There must be some reason he supports the most depraved of our society. HRH of Boscombe
  • Score: -3

7:38am Tue 8 Apr 14

RM says...

High Treason wrote:
Soft UK justice. Why? Is it to save money or liberal hand wringers? If the courts will not impose sentences that act as a deterant the perpetrators simply do it again. Maybe a good thrashing from a victims loved one will prevent him doing it again.
Unfortunately our politically correct police farce would then make extreme efforts to catch the justly outraged parent & no doubt Judge Wiggs and his ilk would be more than happy to give a custodial sentence with accompanying job loss for daring to take the law into their own hands. Without ever considering that if justice had been done - and seen to be done - initially with the pervert's sentencing the good thrashing would not have occurred.
[quote][p][bold]High Treason[/bold] wrote: Soft UK justice. Why? Is it to save money or liberal hand wringers? If the courts will not impose sentences that act as a deterant the perpetrators simply do it again. Maybe a good thrashing from a victims loved one will prevent him doing it again.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately our politically correct police farce would then make extreme efforts to catch the justly outraged parent & no doubt Judge Wiggs and his ilk would be more than happy to give a custodial sentence with accompanying job loss for daring to take the law into their own hands. Without ever considering that if justice had been done - and seen to be done - initially with the pervert's sentencing the good thrashing would not have occurred. RM
  • Score: 3

12:12pm Tue 8 Apr 14

JackJohnson says...

Ban from any public changing rooms for life.

If he breaks the ban, put him in jail to be somebody's b**ch for a couple of years.

If he offends again after his release, jail him for life.
Ban from any public changing rooms for life. If he breaks the ban, put him in jail to be somebody's b**ch for a couple of years. If he offends again after his release, jail him for life. JackJohnson
  • Score: 2

1:39pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Bournemouth87 says...

This is a joke!! The sentancing from this man is unbelievable. Please someone get rid of him.
This is a joke!! The sentancing from this man is unbelievable. Please someone get rid of him. Bournemouth87
  • Score: 3

6:42pm Tue 8 Apr 14

FNS-man says...

spooki wrote:
FNS-man wrote: Very partisan comments here. Your children are much more likely to be harmed by a bad driver, and yet there never seem to be any calls to lock up people caught speeding. In all likelihood these drivers are the people who will hurt your children, not perverts like this, however odious they are.
So you'd be quite happy for him to take pictures of your child or your family undressing, as long as he doesn't run them over? What the flipping heck is going on with this judge?
Given the choice I'd rather have someone take pictures of them than run them over, yes.
[quote][p][bold]spooki[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: Very partisan comments here. Your children are much more likely to be harmed by a bad driver, and yet there never seem to be any calls to lock up people caught speeding. In all likelihood these drivers are the people who will hurt your children, not perverts like this, however odious they are.[/p][/quote]So you'd be quite happy for him to take pictures of your child or your family undressing, as long as he doesn't run them over? What the flipping heck is going on with this judge?[/p][/quote]Given the choice I'd rather have someone take pictures of them than run them over, yes. FNS-man
  • Score: -2

6:45pm Tue 8 Apr 14

FNS-man says...

poolebabe wrote:
FNS-man wrote: Very partisan comments here. Your children are much more likely to be harmed by a bad driver, and yet there never seem to be any calls to lock up people caught speeding. In all likelihood these drivers are the people who will hurt your children, not perverts like this, however odious they are.
A bad driver does not go out with the intention of harming children, a peado does. It's pot luck which child they choose. A bad driver might not harm anyone. What a stupid comparison.
This guy hasn't done any harm to anyone.

Does it really matter if someone means to kill a child if they actually do? Not really to the child or their family. How many children in the area have been killed by paedophiles in the last decade? And how many killed by careless drivers? I'd hazard a guess that the second figure is many many times higher than the first.
[quote][p][bold]poolebabe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FNS-man[/bold] wrote: Very partisan comments here. Your children are much more likely to be harmed by a bad driver, and yet there never seem to be any calls to lock up people caught speeding. In all likelihood these drivers are the people who will hurt your children, not perverts like this, however odious they are.[/p][/quote]A bad driver does not go out with the intention of harming children, a peado does. It's pot luck which child they choose. A bad driver might not harm anyone. What a stupid comparison.[/p][/quote]This guy hasn't done any harm to anyone. Does it really matter if someone means to kill a child if they actually do? Not really to the child or their family. How many children in the area have been killed by paedophiles in the last decade? And how many killed by careless drivers? I'd hazard a guess that the second figure is many many times higher than the first. FNS-man
  • Score: -2

7:15pm Tue 8 Apr 14

pete woodley says...

IS he still on facebook ?.
IS he still on facebook ?. pete woodley
  • Score: 2

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