Popular nightclub manager Paul Kenyon overdosed on cannabis before dying of carbon monoxide poisoning, inquest hears

Popular nightclub manager Paul Kenyon overdosed on cannabis before dying of carbon monoxide poisoning, inquest hears

HEARING: Paul Kenyon

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A BOURNEMOUTH bar and nightclub manager overdosed on cannabis before dying of carbon monoxide poisoning in his car, an inquest has confirmed.

Paul Kenyon, known as PK, was found unresponsive in his vehicle behind the Brix & Co bar that he ran in Bournemouth.

Attempts were made to resuscitate him but he was unresponsive.

He died on November 7 last year and his body was later identified by his friend Simon Powell.

Deputy Dorset Coroner Brendan Allen formally opened his inquest at Bournemouth Coroner’s Court yesterday.

The court heard that Royal Bournemouth Hospital pathologist Dr Al-Utayem carried out a post-mortem and concluded that the cause of death was carbon monoxide poisoning, with a significant condition of cannabis overdose.

The inquest was adjourned until May 8.

It is the second time in a week that cannabis has been identified as a contributory factor in a death. Last week, coroner Sheriff Payne recorded a verdict of death by cannabis abuse at the inquest of 31-year-old Gemma Moss.

The 31-year-old mother’s death was registered as cannabis toxicity, which it is believed made her the first woman in Britain to die directly from cannabis poisoning.

Mr Kenyon, of Wimborne Road, was 37 at the time he died. The Sheffield-born bar manager was a popular figure in Bournemouth and had worked at Elements, Bliss and Chilli White before opening Brix & Co. He was also the vice-chairman of the Town Watch group for several years.

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6:57am Wed 5 Feb 14

SympatheticSam says...

Cue all the pot heads to defend weed....
Cue all the pot heads to defend weed.... SympatheticSam
  • Score: 185

7:01am Wed 5 Feb 14

Understated says...

just cause he had cannabis before he died doesnt mean he "overdosed" as there is no limit to the dosage in question.

but saying it was an overdose makes it sound like he was using it to kill himself, rather than smoke a last few before the carbon monoxide poisoning.

this whole article is nonsense, i dont smoke and even i can tell theres a lot of biased, shock-factor scaremongering simply because cannabis was involved. he would've had to be sat in his car smoking cannabis with 30 other people for days for there to be enough in his system to do any damage.. its not like alcohol.
just cause he had cannabis before he died doesnt mean he "overdosed" as there is no limit to the dosage in question. but saying it was an overdose makes it sound like he was using it to kill himself, rather than smoke a last few before the carbon monoxide poisoning. this whole article is nonsense, i dont smoke and even i can tell theres a lot of biased, shock-factor scaremongering simply because cannabis was involved. he would've had to be sat in his car smoking cannabis with 30 other people for days for there to be enough in his system to do any damage.. its not like alcohol. Understated
  • Score: -4

7:24am Wed 5 Feb 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Sorry the man had to die in such tragic circumstances .but it will give the Bournmouth Canibis experts .which seems there. are hundreds Will take the chance to preach to us the benefits of smoking pot for the second time in a few days
Sorry the man had to die in such tragic circumstances .but it will give the Bournmouth Canibis experts .which seems there. are hundreds Will take the chance to preach to us the benefits of smoking pot for the second time in a few days kalebmoledirt
  • Score: -46

8:03am Wed 5 Feb 14

BarrHumbug says...

How very sad and my condolences goes out to his family and friends but can you die twice?
Unless the carbon monoxide poisoning was an accidental result of smoking a lot of cannabis, I.e. So stoned he started his car in a confined space with the intention to drive off but fell asleep? Then I don't see what relevance it had on his death?
I'm sure there are lots of people who have a stiff drink before choosing to take their own life by stepping in front of a train but that doesn't mean they died of alcohol poisoning does it?

I am not a "pot head" but I do know a sensationalised headline when I see one!
How very sad and my condolences goes out to his family and friends but can you die twice? Unless the carbon monoxide poisoning was an accidental result of smoking a lot of cannabis, I.e. So stoned he started his car in a confined space with the intention to drive off but fell asleep? Then I don't see what relevance it had on his death? I'm sure there are lots of people who have a stiff drink before choosing to take their own life by stepping in front of a train but that doesn't mean they died of alcohol poisoning does it? I am not a "pot head" but I do know a sensationalised headline when I see one! BarrHumbug
  • Score: 28

8:59am Wed 5 Feb 14

MrPitiful says...

BarrHumbug wrote:
How very sad and my condolences goes out to his family and friends but can you die twice?
Unless the carbon monoxide poisoning was an accidental result of smoking a lot of cannabis, I.e. So stoned he started his car in a confined space with the intention to drive off but fell asleep? Then I don't see what relevance it had on his death?
I'm sure there are lots of people who have a stiff drink before choosing to take their own life by stepping in front of a train but that doesn't mean they died of alcohol poisoning does it?

I am not a "pot head" but I do know a sensationalised headline when I see one!
Absolutely spot on. Sensationalism at its worst when jumping on the tragic death of a seemingly popular local man.
[quote][p][bold]BarrHumbug[/bold] wrote: How very sad and my condolences goes out to his family and friends but can you die twice? Unless the carbon monoxide poisoning was an accidental result of smoking a lot of cannabis, I.e. So stoned he started his car in a confined space with the intention to drive off but fell asleep? Then I don't see what relevance it had on his death? I'm sure there are lots of people who have a stiff drink before choosing to take their own life by stepping in front of a train but that doesn't mean they died of alcohol poisoning does it? I am not a "pot head" but I do know a sensationalised headline when I see one![/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on. Sensationalism at its worst when jumping on the tragic death of a seemingly popular local man. MrPitiful
  • Score: 13

9:09am Wed 5 Feb 14

danjabis says...

So he died from CO poisoning? What's Cannabis got to do with it? For him to die of CO poisoning... he must have been alive before hand? So.. he can hardly have OD'd on a drug (unless he OD'd and it didn't kill him.. in which case.. it's not really an overdose... ) if he then died of CO poisoning?
So he died from CO poisoning? What's Cannabis got to do with it? For him to die of CO poisoning... he must have been alive before hand? So.. he can hardly have OD'd on a drug (unless he OD'd and it didn't kill him.. in which case.. it's not really an overdose... ) if he then died of CO poisoning? danjabis
  • Score: -5

9:21am Wed 5 Feb 14

Harrytherspider says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
Sorry the man had to die in such tragic circumstances .but it will give the Bournmouth Canibis experts .which seems there. are hundreds Will take the chance to preach to us the benefits of smoking pot for the second time in a few days
Only because they have forgot that they already mentioned it once before :-)
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Sorry the man had to die in such tragic circumstances .but it will give the Bournmouth Canibis experts .which seems there. are hundreds Will take the chance to preach to us the benefits of smoking pot for the second time in a few days[/p][/quote]Only because they have forgot that they already mentioned it once before :-) Harrytherspider
  • Score: -12

9:30am Wed 5 Feb 14

smithy4:20 says...

Yet more propaganda. you only need to look at america to see the good cannabis is doing saving peoples lives and Colorado is receiving a major boost to its economy. Also any one who has read up on pot knows that its nearly physically impossible to overdose on cannabis and up until a week ago there had never been a confirmed death by overdosing on cannabis. This is just another way to scare people into not having an open and grown up debate on drug legislation in this country
Yet more propaganda. you only need to look at america to see the good cannabis is doing saving peoples lives and Colorado is receiving a major boost to its economy. Also any one who has read up on pot knows that its nearly physically impossible to overdose on cannabis and up until a week ago there had never been a confirmed death by overdosing on cannabis. This is just another way to scare people into not having an open and grown up debate on drug legislation in this country smithy4:20
  • Score: 0

9:33am Wed 5 Feb 14

Squars says...

Sloppy journalism, at best. Then lethal dose of cannabis is something like five pounds.
Sloppy journalism, at best. Then lethal dose of cannabis is something like five pounds. Squars
  • Score: -7

9:37am Wed 5 Feb 14

handytrim says...

Oh dear. Bournemouth is fast becoming the laughingstock of the entire world when it comes to cannabis propaganda. What next? Man smokes joint and spontaneously combusts! Or how about woman smokes skunk and gives birth to Satan.

There are some ridiculously conspicuous theories coming from the Bournemouth coroners office. I'm pretty sure someone is about to loose their job.

Deepest sympathies to this mans friends and family. It's such a shame that this tragic event is being used for more propaganda against cannabis, which has still yet to be proven to have caused a single death by its direct consumption, no matter what the idiots in the Bournemouth coroners office believe.
Oh dear. Bournemouth is fast becoming the laughingstock of the entire world when it comes to cannabis propaganda. What next? Man smokes joint and spontaneously combusts! Or how about woman smokes skunk and gives birth to Satan. There are some ridiculously conspicuous theories coming from the Bournemouth coroners office. I'm pretty sure someone is about to loose their job. Deepest sympathies to this mans friends and family. It's such a shame that this tragic event is being used for more propaganda against cannabis, which has still yet to be proven to have caused a single death by its direct consumption, no matter what the idiots in the Bournemouth coroners office believe. handytrim
  • Score: 7

9:46am Wed 5 Feb 14

JustForPoole says...

Some of these morons defending drug use really should read the article properly before making a report .... unless of course you are stoned out of your brains whilst trying to read the article!!!!!
Some of these morons defending drug use really should read the article properly before making a report .... unless of course you are stoned out of your brains whilst trying to read the article!!!!! JustForPoole
  • Score: -104

9:54am Wed 5 Feb 14

JakeAdams23 says...

SympatheticSam wrote:
Cue all the pot heads to defend weed....
It doesn't take a pothead to know that this information is wrong.
[quote][p][bold]SympatheticSam[/bold] wrote: Cue all the pot heads to defend weed....[/p][/quote]It doesn't take a pothead to know that this information is wrong. JakeAdams23
  • Score: 90

9:54am Wed 5 Feb 14

spleen says...

JustForPoole wrote:
Some of these morons defending drug use really should read the article properly before making a report .... unless of course you are stoned out of your brains whilst trying to read the article!!!!!
erm,

is rubbishing a story for sloppy and incorrect journalism "defending drug use"? If so, Bomo is more knackered than it first appeared.

Stop believing everything you see in a paper (spesh the Echo) and stop assuming everyone questioning this rubbish is a "drug user" who is "stoned out of their brains".

I'm at work, running my own (very successful) company (which I have done for the last fifteen years) and I like a joint in the evening. I have done this for the last thirty-five years. Sometimes I have two or three! I am not a moron, nor stoned all the time. I do not suggest anyone else should smoke pot; it's up to them.

I do know it will not (ever) kill them directly (the smoking carbon-based products *may* contribute to lung cancer, however).

Call the ambulance I might die!!

Learn a bit before blindly commenting,.
[quote][p][bold]JustForPoole[/bold] wrote: Some of these morons defending drug use really should read the article properly before making a report .... unless of course you are stoned out of your brains whilst trying to read the article!!!!![/p][/quote]erm, is rubbishing a story for sloppy and incorrect journalism "defending drug use"? If so, Bomo is more knackered than it first appeared. Stop believing everything you see in a paper (spesh the Echo) and stop assuming everyone questioning this rubbish is a "drug user" who is "stoned out of their brains". I'm at work, running my own (very successful) company (which I have done for the last fifteen years) and I like a joint in the evening. I have done this for the last thirty-five years. Sometimes I have two or three! I am not a moron, nor stoned all the time. I do not suggest anyone else should smoke pot; it's up to them. I do know it will not (ever) kill them directly (the smoking carbon-based products *may* contribute to lung cancer, however). Call the ambulance I might die!! Learn a bit before blindly commenting,. spleen
  • Score: 103

9:57am Wed 5 Feb 14

thevoiceofreason1 says...

JustForPoole wrote:
Some of these morons defending drug use really should read the article properly before making a report .... unless of course you are stoned out of your brains whilst trying to read the article!!!!!
yet again the i have never tried but i now best brigade slagging people off!
people keep quoting drug use as a problem but guaranteed they take the worst drug....ALCOHOL.
self righteous cretins!
[quote][p][bold]JustForPoole[/bold] wrote: Some of these morons defending drug use really should read the article properly before making a report .... unless of course you are stoned out of your brains whilst trying to read the article!!!!![/p][/quote]yet again the i have never tried but i now best brigade slagging people off! people keep quoting drug use as a problem but guaranteed they take the worst drug....ALCOHOL. self righteous cretins! thevoiceofreason1
  • Score: 23

10:00am Wed 5 Feb 14

Old Colonial says...

Well that's another load of internet hits for the Echo to proudly flaunt. Pity it's not for the right reason, i.e. quality journalism.
Well that's another load of internet hits for the Echo to proudly flaunt. Pity it's not for the right reason, i.e. quality journalism. Old Colonial
  • Score: 44

10:01am Wed 5 Feb 14

theunknown2256 says...

From what I can find, it's impossible to overdose on cannabis, u would have to consume a third of ur body weight. After America had recently come so far in legalizing it and now it seems the echo in it's infinite wisdom is following silly unproven claims that after decades and decades of their never being a reported case worldwide there are 2 in Bournemouth alone... Never buying the echo again, though it was better than regular tabloids but it seems even they have an agenda to follow
From what I can find, it's impossible to overdose on cannabis, u would have to consume a third of ur body weight. After America had recently come so far in legalizing it and now it seems the echo in it's infinite wisdom is following silly unproven claims that after decades and decades of their never being a reported case worldwide there are 2 in Bournemouth alone... Never buying the echo again, though it was better than regular tabloids but it seems even they have an agenda to follow theunknown2256
  • Score: 27

10:08am Wed 5 Feb 14

dennisterrey says...

SympatheticSam wrote:
Cue all the pot heads to defend weed....
This is getting old now Daily Echo, cmon you guys have to have some better journalism in that office?
[quote][p][bold]SympatheticSam[/bold] wrote: Cue all the pot heads to defend weed....[/p][/quote]This is getting old now Daily Echo, cmon you guys have to have some better journalism in that office? dennisterrey
  • Score: 33

10:12am Wed 5 Feb 14

dennisterrey says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
Sorry the man had to die in such tragic circumstances .but it will give the Bournmouth Canibis experts .which seems there. are hundreds Will take the chance to preach to us the benefits of smoking pot for the second time in a few days
It's not about preaching the benefits, it's the fact that they are making a big deal out of Cannabis when they should be looking to make Alcohol and Tobacco illegal. Weed already is. These 2 forms of legal drugs are far more damaging than weed. Wow 2 contributions to death for weed ever? Even if that were true, how many people die a year from Alcohol and Tobacco.

I don't mean to put a downer on this mans tragic death, but blaming weed is just simply stupid.
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Sorry the man had to die in such tragic circumstances .but it will give the Bournmouth Canibis experts .which seems there. are hundreds Will take the chance to preach to us the benefits of smoking pot for the second time in a few days[/p][/quote]It's not about preaching the benefits, it's the fact that they are making a big deal out of Cannabis when they should be looking to make Alcohol and Tobacco illegal. Weed already is. These 2 forms of legal drugs are far more damaging than weed. Wow 2 contributions to death for weed ever? Even if that were true, how many people die a year from Alcohol and Tobacco. I don't mean to put a downer on this mans tragic death, but blaming weed is just simply stupid. dennisterrey
  • Score: 8

10:14am Wed 5 Feb 14

LucaDudak says...

Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days.

Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.
Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days. Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws. LucaDudak
  • Score: 33

10:30am Wed 5 Feb 14

speedy231278 says...

LucaDudak wrote:
Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days.

Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.
So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something. This person passed out, then was suffocated by something. If he'd been conscious, he may have noticed the side effects of the carbon monoxide before it was too late.

I don't think having the odd joint is really a significant issue, however in some cases it can lead to using other substances, which is why it is banned. Like alcohol, some people are weak willed and don't know when to stop.
[quote][p][bold]LucaDudak[/bold] wrote: Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days. Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.[/p][/quote]So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something. This person passed out, then was suffocated by something. If he'd been conscious, he may have noticed the side effects of the carbon monoxide before it was too late. I don't think having the odd joint is really a significant issue, however in some cases it can lead to using other substances, which is why it is banned. Like alcohol, some people are weak willed and don't know when to stop. speedy231278
  • Score: -64

10:31am Wed 5 Feb 14

LostinDenver says...

Wow have never read so much ignorant BS in my life. Overdose on cannabis... Plllleassee your'e more likely to die from a sugar overdose due to the amount of food consumed after smoking a doob or two. Of course theres always gonna be the small minority with their heads in the sand following nonsense like this and believing. It is the age of information Things are changing. Do your own research and think for yourself. Don't always believe what people tell you just because their in a position of power they're just a normal human like you and me. In this age Ignorance is a dangerous choice
Wow have never read so much ignorant BS in my life. Overdose on cannabis... Plllleassee your'e more likely to die from a sugar overdose due to the amount of food consumed after smoking a doob or two. Of course theres always gonna be the small minority with their heads in the sand following nonsense like this and believing. It is the age of information Things are changing. Do your own research and think for yourself. Don't always believe what people tell you just because their in a position of power they're just a normal human like you and me. In this age Ignorance is a dangerous choice LostinDenver
  • Score: 42

10:38am Wed 5 Feb 14

nickynoodah says...

Nowhere does it mention smoking cannabis
you junkies need to put your bongs back under your beds
and sit amongst your plants and have a chat with them
clear your heads
read the article again
your next post might make sense
but I doubt it
the damage is done
Nowhere does it mention smoking cannabis you junkies need to put your bongs back under your beds and sit amongst your plants and have a chat with them clear your heads read the article again your next post might make sense but I doubt it the damage is done nickynoodah
  • Score: -81

10:40am Wed 5 Feb 14

your-mum says...

speedy231278 wrote:
LucaDudak wrote:
Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days.

Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.
So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something. This person passed out, then was suffocated by something. If he'd been conscious, he may have noticed the side effects of the carbon monoxide before it was too late.

I don't think having the odd joint is really a significant issue, however in some cases it can lead to using other substances, which is why it is banned. Like alcohol, some people are weak willed and don't know when to stop.
"So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something."

No, usually the side effect of an overdose is death. It is physically impossible to OD on cannabis. Here's what the US DEA had to say about it -

"Nearly all medicines have toxic, potentially lethal effects. But marijuana is not such a substance. There is no record in the extensive medical literature describing a proven, documented cannabis-induced fatality. This is a remarkable statement. First, the record on marijuana encompasses 5,000 years of human experience. Second, marijuana is now used daily by enormous numbers of people throughout the world. Estimates suggest that from twenty million to fifty million Americans routinely, albeit illegally, smoke marijuana without the benefit of direct medical supervision. Yet, despite this long history of use and the extraordinarily high numbers of social smokers, there are simply no credible medical reports to suggest that consuming marijuana has caused a single death.

At present it is estimated that marijuana's LD-50 is around

1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in order to induce death a marijuana smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as much marijuana as is contained in onemarijuana cigarette. NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh approximately .9 grams. A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal response."

http://www.ccguide.o
rg/young88.php

"however in some cases it can lead to using other substances"

Oh the gateway argument? Nope, sorry, totally discredited. You're talking crap.

Please, shut up.

Oh, and another slow clap for the Echo. You're a bunch of clowns.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LucaDudak[/bold] wrote: Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days. Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.[/p][/quote]So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something. This person passed out, then was suffocated by something. If he'd been conscious, he may have noticed the side effects of the carbon monoxide before it was too late. I don't think having the odd joint is really a significant issue, however in some cases it can lead to using other substances, which is why it is banned. Like alcohol, some people are weak willed and don't know when to stop.[/p][/quote]"So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something." No, usually the side effect of an overdose is death. It is physically impossible to OD on cannabis. Here's what the US DEA had to say about it - "Nearly all medicines have toxic, potentially lethal effects. But marijuana is not such a substance. There is no record in the extensive medical literature describing a proven, documented cannabis-induced fatality. This is a remarkable statement. First, the record on marijuana encompasses 5,000 years of human experience. Second, marijuana is now used daily by enormous numbers of people throughout the world. Estimates suggest that from twenty million to fifty million Americans routinely, albeit illegally, smoke marijuana without the benefit of direct medical supervision. Yet, despite this long history of use and the extraordinarily high numbers of social smokers, there are simply no credible medical reports to suggest that consuming marijuana has caused a single death. At present it is estimated that marijuana's LD-50 is around 1:20,000 or 1:40,000. In layman terms this means that in order to induce death a marijuana smoker would have to consume 20,000 to 40,000 times as much marijuana as is contained in onemarijuana cigarette. NIDA-supplied marijuana cigarettes weigh approximately .9 grams. A smoker would theoretically have to consume nearly 1,500 pounds of marijuana within about fifteen minutes to induce a lethal response." http://www.ccguide.o rg/young88.php "however in some cases it can lead to using other substances" Oh the gateway argument? Nope, sorry, totally discredited. You're talking crap. Please, shut up. Oh, and another slow clap for the Echo. You're a bunch of clowns. your-mum
  • Score: 48

10:43am Wed 5 Feb 14

nickynoodah says...

Nowhere does it mention smoking cannabis
you junkies need to put your bongs back under your beds
and sit amongst your plants and have a chat with them
clear your heads
read the article again
your next post might make sense
but I doubt it
the damage is done
Nowhere does it mention smoking cannabis you junkies need to put your bongs back under your beds and sit amongst your plants and have a chat with them clear your heads read the article again your next post might make sense but I doubt it the damage is done nickynoodah
  • Score: -57

10:45am Wed 5 Feb 14

BarrHumbug says...

speedy231278 wrote:
LucaDudak wrote:
Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days.

Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.
So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something. This person passed out, then was suffocated by something. If he'd been conscious, he may have noticed the side effects of the carbon monoxide before it was too late.

I don't think having the odd joint is really a significant issue, however in some cases it can lead to using other substances, which is why it is banned. Like alcohol, some people are weak willed and don't know when to stop.
Maybe we should all stop making assumptions until the final inquest in May. The article does not state if the inhalation of carbon monoxide which caused his death was intentional or not?
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LucaDudak[/bold] wrote: Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days. Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.[/p][/quote]So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something. This person passed out, then was suffocated by something. If he'd been conscious, he may have noticed the side effects of the carbon monoxide before it was too late. I don't think having the odd joint is really a significant issue, however in some cases it can lead to using other substances, which is why it is banned. Like alcohol, some people are weak willed and don't know when to stop.[/p][/quote]Maybe we should all stop making assumptions until the final inquest in May. The article does not state if the inhalation of carbon monoxide which caused his death was intentional or not? BarrHumbug
  • Score: -9

10:49am Wed 5 Feb 14

BarrHumbug says...

nickynoodah wrote:
Nowhere does it mention smoking cannabis
you junkies need to put your bongs back under your beds
and sit amongst your plants and have a chat with them
clear your heads
read the article again
your next post might make sense
but I doubt it
the damage is done
nicky we all know your literacy is a little suspect at the best of times but you really have surpassed yourself this time! :-D
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Nowhere does it mention smoking cannabis you junkies need to put your bongs back under your beds and sit amongst your plants and have a chat with them clear your heads read the article again your next post might make sense but I doubt it the damage is done[/p][/quote]nicky we all know your literacy is a little suspect at the best of times but you really have surpassed yourself this time! :-D BarrHumbug
  • Score: 25

10:51am Wed 5 Feb 14

your-mum says...

nickynoodah wrote:
Nowhere does it mention smoking cannabis
you junkies need to put your bongs back under your beds
and sit amongst your plants and have a chat with them
clear your heads
read the article again
your next post might make sense
but I doubt it
the damage is done
Not only is the nonsense you type barely legible, but you also lack even basic reading comprehension. How do you get yourself dressed in the morning?

This is your brain not on drugs. Cretin.
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Nowhere does it mention smoking cannabis you junkies need to put your bongs back under your beds and sit amongst your plants and have a chat with them clear your heads read the article again your next post might make sense but I doubt it the damage is done[/p][/quote]Not only is the nonsense you type barely legible, but you also lack even basic reading comprehension. How do you get yourself dressed in the morning? This is your brain not on drugs. Cretin. your-mum
  • Score: 32

10:52am Wed 5 Feb 14

GeorgeW64 says...

More cannabis bashing, do these people think we are fools and really believe this nonsense ?
More cannabis bashing, do these people think we are fools and really believe this nonsense ? GeorgeW64
  • Score: 25

10:59am Wed 5 Feb 14

afcb-mark says...

No deaths recorded from cannabis and now two in a week from the same town. There seems to be a pattern emerging here and it's coming from the coroners office.
No deaths recorded from cannabis and now two in a week from the same town. There seems to be a pattern emerging here and it's coming from the coroners office. afcb-mark
  • Score: 42

11:04am Wed 5 Feb 14

afcb-mark says...

nickynoodah wrote:
Nowhere does it mention smoking cannabis
you junkies need to put your bongs back under your beds
and sit amongst your plants and have a chat with them
clear your heads
read the article again
your next post might make sense
but I doubt it
the damage is done
What do you think he did with it if he didn't smoke it? place a kilo of it in one of his orifices.
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Nowhere does it mention smoking cannabis you junkies need to put your bongs back under your beds and sit amongst your plants and have a chat with them clear your heads read the article again your next post might make sense but I doubt it the damage is done[/p][/quote]What do you think he did with it if he didn't smoke it? place a kilo of it in one of his orifices. afcb-mark
  • Score: 5

11:20am Wed 5 Feb 14

Londonborn1993 says...

Some people believe whatever the media tells them. I do not condone the use of marijuana but I don't judge people that choose to do it, but this seems to me (Not that i'm an expert, because i'm not) that the man died of c02 poisoning. Now coincidentally it seems that this man had cannabis in his system before he died. Seems coincidental that Dorset, a rather small place in scale with the rest of the world, have had 2 instances of people that have "overdosed" on this drug but the rest of the country, maybe even the entire world have had no such incidents? Coincidentally again, the stories were written by the same paper. Be open minded and think for yourself rather than reading an article, and telling everybody that you believe it to be true with no explination to back up your theory other than "It was in the Bournemouth Echo."
Some people believe whatever the media tells them. I do not condone the use of marijuana but I don't judge people that choose to do it, but this seems to me (Not that i'm an expert, because i'm not) that the man died of c02 poisoning. Now coincidentally it seems that this man had cannabis in his system before he died. Seems coincidental that Dorset, a rather small place in scale with the rest of the world, have had 2 instances of people that have "overdosed" on this drug but the rest of the country, maybe even the entire world have had no such incidents? Coincidentally again, the stories were written by the same paper. Be open minded and think for yourself rather than reading an article, and telling everybody that you believe it to be true with no explination to back up your theory other than "It was in the Bournemouth Echo." Londonborn1993
  • Score: 24

11:22am Wed 5 Feb 14

Londonborn1993 says...

Londonborn1993 wrote:
Some people believe whatever the media tells them. I do not condone the use of marijuana but I don't judge people that choose to do it, but this seems to me (Not that i'm an expert, because i'm not) that the man died of c02 poisoning. Now coincidentally it seems that this man had cannabis in his system before he died. Seems coincidental that Dorset, a rather small place in scale with the rest of the world, have had 2 instances of people that have "overdosed" on this drug but the rest of the country, maybe even the entire world have had no such incidents? Coincidentally again, the stories were written by the same paper. Be open minded and think for yourself rather than reading an article, and telling everybody that you believe it to be true with no explination to back up your theory other than "It was in the Bournemouth Echo."
Carbon monoxide poisoning I meant
[quote][p][bold]Londonborn1993[/bold] wrote: Some people believe whatever the media tells them. I do not condone the use of marijuana but I don't judge people that choose to do it, but this seems to me (Not that i'm an expert, because i'm not) that the man died of c02 poisoning. Now coincidentally it seems that this man had cannabis in his system before he died. Seems coincidental that Dorset, a rather small place in scale with the rest of the world, have had 2 instances of people that have "overdosed" on this drug but the rest of the country, maybe even the entire world have had no such incidents? Coincidentally again, the stories were written by the same paper. Be open minded and think for yourself rather than reading an article, and telling everybody that you believe it to be true with no explination to back up your theory other than "It was in the Bournemouth Echo."[/p][/quote]Carbon monoxide poisoning I meant Londonborn1993
  • Score: 3

11:37am Wed 5 Feb 14

Londonborn1993 says...

GeorgeW64 wrote:
More cannabis bashing, do these people think we are fools and really believe this nonsense ?
Unfortunately a large minority of morons do believe it. Next week we'll be told that a man was hit by a car but he smoked some weed earlier that day and it was the weeds fault.
[quote][p][bold]GeorgeW64[/bold] wrote: More cannabis bashing, do these people think we are fools and really believe this nonsense ?[/p][/quote]Unfortunately a large minority of morons do believe it. Next week we'll be told that a man was hit by a car but he smoked some weed earlier that day and it was the weeds fault. Londonborn1993
  • Score: 28

11:44am Wed 5 Feb 14

silverskins says...

Trust me when I say I have been trying to od on marijuana for the past 25 years and I can assure you in my opinion its not possible. I very rarely drink alcohol because I suffer terribly from the jekyll and hyde effect, I enjoy a drink but it's best for me and those around me if I don't.
On my journey I have met people from all walks of life and not once has there been any trouble, some may bore you to tears but in my experience we are the group of people least likely to get feisty. Although it would be easy to do, I don't want to preach the benefits, each to there own and all that but what I will say is it's about time we have a proper national debate on the matter, stop criminalizing normal people and take the money spent on marijuana out of the real criminals pockets and put it in the tax coffers. Sad new's about the fella and my condolences to those who knew him.
Trust me when I say I have been trying to od on marijuana for the past 25 years and I can assure you in my opinion its not possible. I very rarely drink alcohol because I suffer terribly from the jekyll and hyde effect, I enjoy a drink but it's best for me and those around me if I don't. On my journey I have met people from all walks of life and not once has there been any trouble, some may bore you to tears but in my experience we are the group of people least likely to get feisty. Although it would be easy to do, I don't want to preach the benefits, each to there own and all that but what I will say is it's about time we have a proper national debate on the matter, stop criminalizing normal people and take the money spent on marijuana out of the real criminals pockets and put it in the tax coffers. Sad new's about the fella and my condolences to those who knew him. silverskins
  • Score: 34

11:48am Wed 5 Feb 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Such a shame when people die so tragically leaving a massive vacuum in lives of those close to them,perhaps if he had not been under the influence of drugs.he may have chosen to rethink his actions.No doubt I will get the thumbs down from all the unqualified expert's that seem to shout loudest protecting their sacred mental crutch
Such a shame when people die so tragically leaving a massive vacuum in lives of those close to them,perhaps if he had not been under the influence of drugs.he may have chosen to rethink his actions.No doubt I will get the thumbs down from all the unqualified expert's that seem to shout loudest protecting their sacred mental crutch kalebmoledirt
  • Score: -15

12:00pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Londonborn1993 says...

nickynoodah wrote:
afcb-mark wrote:
nickynoodah wrote:
Nowhere does it mention smoking cannabis
you junkies need to put your bongs back under your beds
and sit amongst your plants and have a chat with them
clear your heads
read the article again
your next post might make sense
but I doubt it
the damage is done
What do you think he did with it if he didn't smoke it? place a kilo of it in one of his orifices.
you do what
what a filthy habit you got
you sound stoned George
I'm sure you have some filthy habits yourself, nobody is a saint. Remember that you're a hypocrite next time you crack open your potentially fatal bottle of wine. But it's okay because in the eyes of the law you're not doing anything wrong.
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]afcb-mark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Nowhere does it mention smoking cannabis you junkies need to put your bongs back under your beds and sit amongst your plants and have a chat with them clear your heads read the article again your next post might make sense but I doubt it the damage is done[/p][/quote]What do you think he did with it if he didn't smoke it? place a kilo of it in one of his orifices.[/p][/quote]you do what what a filthy habit you got you sound stoned George[/p][/quote]I'm sure you have some filthy habits yourself, nobody is a saint. Remember that you're a hypocrite next time you crack open your potentially fatal bottle of wine. But it's okay because in the eyes of the law you're not doing anything wrong. Londonborn1993
  • Score: 6

12:00pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Londonborn1993 says...

nickynoodah wrote:
afcb-mark wrote:
nickynoodah wrote:
Nowhere does it mention smoking cannabis
you junkies need to put your bongs back under your beds
and sit amongst your plants and have a chat with them
clear your heads
read the article again
your next post might make sense
but I doubt it
the damage is done
What do you think he did with it if he didn't smoke it? place a kilo of it in one of his orifices.
you do what
what a filthy habit you got
you sound stoned George
I'm sure you have some filthy habits yourself, nobody is a saint. Remember that you're a hypocrite next time you crack open your potentially fatal bottle of wine. But it's okay because in the eyes of the law you're not doing anything wrong.
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]afcb-mark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Nowhere does it mention smoking cannabis you junkies need to put your bongs back under your beds and sit amongst your plants and have a chat with them clear your heads read the article again your next post might make sense but I doubt it the damage is done[/p][/quote]What do you think he did with it if he didn't smoke it? place a kilo of it in one of his orifices.[/p][/quote]you do what what a filthy habit you got you sound stoned George[/p][/quote]I'm sure you have some filthy habits yourself, nobody is a saint. Remember that you're a hypocrite next time you crack open your potentially fatal bottle of wine. But it's okay because in the eyes of the law you're not doing anything wrong. Londonborn1993
  • Score: -2

12:13pm Wed 5 Feb 14

AB3 says...

cannnabis overdose? In a word "unscientific"
cannnabis overdose? In a word "unscientific" AB3
  • Score: 16

12:14pm Wed 5 Feb 14

nickynoodah says...

Londonborn1993 says... place a kilo of it in one of his orifices.

you light it with a match
you are an out of your mind mad man you know george
Londonborn1993 says... place a kilo of it in one of his orifices. you light it with a match you are an out of your mind mad man you know george nickynoodah
  • Score: -5

12:21pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Win Matthews says...

It isn't possible to die from ' cannabis poisoning', no such condition! impossible...and as was said earlier 'unscientific,' yet I need to add two words...and that is 'Yellow Journalism!" or should I have said ....Reefer Madness!
It isn't possible to die from ' cannabis poisoning', no such condition! impossible...and as was said earlier 'unscientific,' yet I need to add two words...and that is 'Yellow Journalism!" or should I have said ....Reefer Madness! Win Matthews
  • Score: 19

12:24pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Franks Tank says...

Who said smoking pot makes you paranoid?
Who said smoking pot makes you paranoid? Franks Tank
  • Score: -8

12:28pm Wed 5 Feb 14

keiron1 says...

dear oh dear , is it something in the water or something, ?
complete and utter codswallop !
david camron your thicker than i thought if your instructing the media to send this **** out !! meanwhile , other states/nations are setting a very fine example
, are you incaperble of doing the same ? coz it sure does look like it , my sons nappy has more honesty in it than u !
dear oh dear , is it something in the water or something, ? complete and utter codswallop ! david camron your thicker than i thought if your instructing the media to send this **** out !! meanwhile , other states/nations are setting a very fine example , are you incaperble of doing the same ? coz it sure does look like it , my sons nappy has more honesty in it than u ! keiron1
  • Score: 7

12:30pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Frederf says...

JakeAdams23 wrote:
SympatheticSam wrote:
Cue all the pot heads to defend weed....
It doesn't take a pothead to know that this information is wrong.
Que all the uneducated come out against pot!
[quote][p][bold]JakeAdams23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SympatheticSam[/bold] wrote: Cue all the pot heads to defend weed....[/p][/quote]It doesn't take a pothead to know that this information is wrong.[/p][/quote]Que all the uneducated come out against pot! Frederf
  • Score: 13

12:34pm Wed 5 Feb 14

ragj195 says...

Wow, do we get to read the term "over-dosed on alcohol" whenever there is a story related to someone doing something when they are drunk. The Echo reporting is a joke, but it's free to read, hey ho. Get what you pay for.
Wow, do we get to read the term "over-dosed on alcohol" whenever there is a story related to someone doing something when they are drunk. The Echo reporting is a joke, but it's free to read, hey ho. Get what you pay for. ragj195
  • Score: 11

12:36pm Wed 5 Feb 14

rozmister says...

Whilst the weed may not have killed him due to toxicity surely it is a factor in his death? We don't know the circumstances but perhaps he was too stoned to drive hence the CO2 or perhaps he had mental health problems that were made worse by prolonged weed smoking?

Weed may not be toxic according to scientific evidence but it is linked to hundreds of deaths around the world every year as a contributing factor. The comments on here trying to make out it's safer than safe are a bit disturbing when you factor that in.
Whilst the weed may not have killed him due to toxicity surely it is a factor in his death? We don't know the circumstances but perhaps he was too stoned to drive hence the CO2 or perhaps he had mental health problems that were made worse by prolonged weed smoking? Weed may not be toxic according to scientific evidence but it is linked to hundreds of deaths around the world every year as a contributing factor. The comments on here trying to make out it's safer than safe are a bit disturbing when you factor that in. rozmister
  • Score: -10

12:43pm Wed 5 Feb 14

ragj195 says...

rozmister wrote:
Whilst the weed may not have killed him due to toxicity surely it is a factor in his death? We don't know the circumstances but perhaps he was too stoned to drive hence the CO2 or perhaps he had mental health problems that were made worse by prolonged weed smoking?

Weed may not be toxic according to scientific evidence but it is linked to hundreds of deaths around the world every year as a contributing factor. The comments on here trying to make out it's safer than safe are a bit disturbing when you factor that in.
Yes you're right but millions of people smoke weed so the fatality rate is statistically insignificant. Move on.
[quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: Whilst the weed may not have killed him due to toxicity surely it is a factor in his death? We don't know the circumstances but perhaps he was too stoned to drive hence the CO2 or perhaps he had mental health problems that were made worse by prolonged weed smoking? Weed may not be toxic according to scientific evidence but it is linked to hundreds of deaths around the world every year as a contributing factor. The comments on here trying to make out it's safer than safe are a bit disturbing when you factor that in.[/p][/quote]Yes you're right but millions of people smoke weed so the fatality rate is statistically insignificant. Move on. ragj195
  • Score: 6

12:58pm Wed 5 Feb 14

thevoiceofreason1 says...

nickynoodah wrote:
George is stoned out of his little brain you know.
you really are a sad sack aren't you.
nothing but a TROLL
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: George is stoned out of his little brain you know.[/p][/quote]you really are a sad sack aren't you. nothing but a TROLL thevoiceofreason1
  • Score: 9

1:04pm Wed 5 Feb 14

BarrHumbug says...

keiron1 wrote:
dear oh dear , is it something in the water or something, ?
complete and utter codswallop !
david camron your thicker than i thought if your instructing the media to send this **** out !! meanwhile , other states/nations are setting a very fine example
, are you incaperble of doing the same ? coz it sure does look like it , my sons nappy has more honesty in it than u !
I'm pretty sure the Echo didn't call No.10 to get David's advice before publishing this story?
[quote][p][bold]keiron1[/bold] wrote: dear oh dear , is it something in the water or something, ? complete and utter codswallop ! david camron your thicker than i thought if your instructing the media to send this **** out !! meanwhile , other states/nations are setting a very fine example , are you incaperble of doing the same ? coz it sure does look like it , my sons nappy has more honesty in it than u ![/p][/quote]I'm pretty sure the Echo didn't call No.10 to get David's advice before publishing this story? BarrHumbug
  • Score: 0

1:23pm Wed 5 Feb 14

scrumpyjack says...

speedy231278 wrote:
LucaDudak wrote:
Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days.

Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.
So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something. This person passed out, then was suffocated by something. If he'd been conscious, he may have noticed the side effects of the carbon monoxide before it was too late.

I don't think having the odd joint is really a significant issue, however in some cases it can lead to using other substances, which is why it is banned. Like alcohol, some people are weak willed and don't know when to stop.
Carbon monoxide paralyses you - people who try to kill themselves by carbon monoxide poisoning and change their mind are unable to to do so.

Facts are facts.

I suggest you try and learn a few before climbing on a soap box and trying to belittle people. It makes you look very stupid.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LucaDudak[/bold] wrote: Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days. Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.[/p][/quote]So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something. This person passed out, then was suffocated by something. If he'd been conscious, he may have noticed the side effects of the carbon monoxide before it was too late. I don't think having the odd joint is really a significant issue, however in some cases it can lead to using other substances, which is why it is banned. Like alcohol, some people are weak willed and don't know when to stop.[/p][/quote]Carbon monoxide paralyses you - people who try to kill themselves by carbon monoxide poisoning and change their mind are unable to to do so. Facts are facts. I suggest you try and learn a few before climbing on a soap box and trying to belittle people. It makes you look very stupid. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 3

1:25pm Wed 5 Feb 14

kalebmoledirt says...

JayelleFarmer wrote:
"The court heard that Royal Bournemouth Hospital pathologist Dr Al-Utayem carried out a post-mortem and concluded that the cause of death was carbon monoxide poisoning, with a significant condition of cannabis overdose."

Two cases of pathologists stating cannabis overdoses in one week - and both from pathologists at the Royal Bournemouth hospital. The other case being the case of Gemma Moss:

"Pathologist Dr Kudair Hussein told the inquest in Bournemouth there were ‘moderate to heavy’ levels of cannabis-related chemicals in her blood."

This hospital has already got bad press. See article in this same newspaper:

"Dangerous and inadequate" - Care Quality Commission's damning report into Royal Bournemouth Hospital

"The CQC, England’s independent regulator of health and social care has already presented its report to a local quality summit including NHS commissioners, providers and regulators."

The independent regulator of health and social care needs to do an examination of the credentials, expertise and knowledge of the pharmacology of cannabis of all of the pathologists at the RBH.

In the meantime, the two pathologists connected with the Paul Kenyon and Gemma Moss cases should maybe stick with making kebabs. According to the eminent Prof. David Nutt, Chair of the Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs: "Smoking cannabis is not a killer, despite inquest findings."
Racist pseudo intellect .
[quote][p][bold]JayelleFarmer[/bold] wrote: "The court heard that Royal Bournemouth Hospital pathologist Dr Al-Utayem carried out a post-mortem and concluded that the cause of death was carbon monoxide poisoning, with a significant condition of cannabis overdose." Two cases of pathologists stating cannabis overdoses in one week - and both from pathologists at the Royal Bournemouth hospital. The other case being the case of Gemma Moss: "Pathologist Dr Kudair Hussein told the inquest in Bournemouth there were ‘moderate to heavy’ levels of cannabis-related chemicals in her blood." This hospital has already got bad press. See article in this same newspaper: "Dangerous and inadequate" - Care Quality Commission's damning report into Royal Bournemouth Hospital "The CQC, England’s independent regulator of health and social care has already presented its report to a local quality summit including NHS commissioners, providers and regulators." The independent regulator of health and social care needs to do an examination of the credentials, expertise and knowledge of the pharmacology of cannabis of all of the pathologists at the RBH. In the meantime, the two pathologists connected with the Paul Kenyon and Gemma Moss cases should maybe stick with making kebabs. According to the eminent Prof. David Nutt, Chair of the Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs: "Smoking cannabis is not a killer, despite inquest findings."[/p][/quote]Racist pseudo intellect . kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 0

1:29pm Wed 5 Feb 14

rozmister says...

ragj195 wrote:
rozmister wrote: Whilst the weed may not have killed him due to toxicity surely it is a factor in his death? We don't know the circumstances but perhaps he was too stoned to drive hence the CO2 or perhaps he had mental health problems that were made worse by prolonged weed smoking? Weed may not be toxic according to scientific evidence but it is linked to hundreds of deaths around the world every year as a contributing factor. The comments on here trying to make out it's safer than safe are a bit disturbing when you factor that in.
Yes you're right but millions of people smoke weed so the fatality rate is statistically insignificant. Move on.
In proportion to the amount of journeys carried out in vehicles death in a vehicle is statistically insignificant. That doesn't stop us driving road safety and being aware of the dangers. I'm sure the families of people who die with weed as a contributing factor can't just 'move on' and don't feel their family member is 'statistically insignificant'. Your crass comment shows how focused you are on pushing the cause for weed without acknowledging the risks.
[quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: Whilst the weed may not have killed him due to toxicity surely it is a factor in his death? We don't know the circumstances but perhaps he was too stoned to drive hence the CO2 or perhaps he had mental health problems that were made worse by prolonged weed smoking? Weed may not be toxic according to scientific evidence but it is linked to hundreds of deaths around the world every year as a contributing factor. The comments on here trying to make out it's safer than safe are a bit disturbing when you factor that in.[/p][/quote]Yes you're right but millions of people smoke weed so the fatality rate is statistically insignificant. Move on.[/p][/quote]In proportion to the amount of journeys carried out in vehicles death in a vehicle is statistically insignificant. That doesn't stop us driving road safety and being aware of the dangers. I'm sure the families of people who die with weed as a contributing factor can't just 'move on' and don't feel their family member is 'statistically insignificant'. Your crass comment shows how focused you are on pushing the cause for weed without acknowledging the risks. rozmister
  • Score: 5

1:31pm Wed 5 Feb 14

PJ Reynolds says...

Statement from CLEAR Cannabis Law Reform.

Source: http://www.clear-uk.
org/insane-outbreak-
of-reefer-madness-at
-bournemouth-coroner
s-court/

According to the NHS, there has never been a case of fatal overdose or of confirmed death due to cannabis.

Now, in the space of a few days, two Bournemouth pathologists have given evidence to the Coroner’s Court of two cases of cannabis overdose leading to death.

Clearly, something very strange is going on and the overwhelming weight of scientific evidence is that the problem is not cannabis but an outbreak of hysteria in Bournemouth. It is utterly absurd that this sleepy seaside town on the south coast of England should suddenly become unique in the world for such events. It is nonsense and the chief executives of the two NHS Trusts involved, Chris Bown and Tony Spotswood, need to get a grip on their pathology departments.

The first case concerned Gemma Moss and the pathologist was Dr Kudair Hussein, employed by the Poole Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. The second case, in which a formal verdict has not yet been returned, concerns Paul Kenyon and the pathologist is Dr. Wessam Al-Utayem, employed by the Royal Bournemouth & Christchurch Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust.

Chris Grayling MP, Lord Chancellor, who is responsible for coroners, also needs to step in and calm the situation. The Bournemouth coroner and pathologists are in danger of becoming an international laughing stock and that is in nobody’s interests.
Statement from CLEAR Cannabis Law Reform. Source: http://www.clear-uk. org/insane-outbreak- of-reefer-madness-at -bournemouth-coroner s-court/ According to the NHS, there has never been a case of fatal overdose or of confirmed death due to cannabis. Now, in the space of a few days, two Bournemouth pathologists have given evidence to the Coroner’s Court of two cases of cannabis overdose leading to death. Clearly, something very strange is going on and the overwhelming weight of scientific evidence is that the problem is not cannabis but an outbreak of hysteria in Bournemouth. It is utterly absurd that this sleepy seaside town on the south coast of England should suddenly become unique in the world for such events. It is nonsense and the chief executives of the two NHS Trusts involved, Chris Bown and Tony Spotswood, need to get a grip on their pathology departments. The first case concerned Gemma Moss and the pathologist was Dr Kudair Hussein, employed by the Poole Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. The second case, in which a formal verdict has not yet been returned, concerns Paul Kenyon and the pathologist is Dr. Wessam Al-Utayem, employed by the Royal Bournemouth & Christchurch Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. Chris Grayling MP, Lord Chancellor, who is responsible for coroners, also needs to step in and calm the situation. The Bournemouth coroner and pathologists are in danger of becoming an international laughing stock and that is in nobody’s interests. PJ Reynolds
  • Score: 22

1:33pm Wed 5 Feb 14

scrumpyjack says...

keiron1 wrote:
dear oh dear , is it something in the water or something, ?
complete and utter codswallop !
david camron your thicker than i thought if your instructing the media to send this **** out !! meanwhile , other states/nations are setting a very fine example
, are you incaperble of doing the same ? coz it sure does look like it , my sons nappy has more honesty in it than u !
'your thicker than i thought'.

The irony.

Yes I am sure the Prime Minister was on the 'phone to the Echo last night making sure they wrote this story.
[quote][p][bold]keiron1[/bold] wrote: dear oh dear , is it something in the water or something, ? complete and utter codswallop ! david camron your thicker than i thought if your instructing the media to send this **** out !! meanwhile , other states/nations are setting a very fine example , are you incaperble of doing the same ? coz it sure does look like it , my sons nappy has more honesty in it than u ![/p][/quote]'your thicker than i thought'. The irony. Yes I am sure the Prime Minister was on the 'phone to the Echo last night making sure they wrote this story. scrumpyjack
  • Score: 0

1:43pm Wed 5 Feb 14

BogiePiffington says...

>>>>>>> DAILY ECHO NO ONE HAS EVER DIED FROM MARIJUANA, OR BEEN POISONED VIA MARIJUANA
>>>>>>> DAILY ECHO NO ONE HAS EVER DIED FROM MARIJUANA, OR BEEN POISONED VIA MARIJUANA BogiePiffington
  • Score: 13

1:45pm Wed 5 Feb 14

jp1983 says...

dennisterrey wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
Sorry the man had to die in such tragic circumstances .but it will give the Bournmouth Canibis experts .which seems there. are hundreds Will take the chance to preach to us the benefits of smoking pot for the second time in a few days
It's not about preaching the benefits, it's the fact that they are making a big deal out of Cannabis when they should be looking to make Alcohol and Tobacco illegal. Weed already is. These 2 forms of legal drugs are far more damaging than weed. Wow 2 contributions to death for weed ever? Even if that were true, how many people die a year from Alcohol and Tobacco.

I don't mean to put a downer on this mans tragic death, but blaming weed is just simply stupid.
No one should be looking to make alcohol or tobacco illegal. We don't need further restrictions on our adult sovereignty. That's one of the most important (if not THE MOST important) points about ending the prohibition on Cannabis.

Alcohol and tobacco can definitely be very bad for you if not used responsibly (I personally don't see the point in smoking tobacco at all), and so can Cannabis to a (much) lesser extent.

What we need to do is make sure people are educated with the FACTS about different types of drugs so that they can make their own choices about whether to use them or not. Making drugs illegal and restricting our liberties is ALWAYS going to cause more problems than it solves. If one does some proper research into prohibition this will soon become obvious to them. People want to be free.
[quote][p][bold]dennisterrey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: Sorry the man had to die in such tragic circumstances .but it will give the Bournmouth Canibis experts .which seems there. are hundreds Will take the chance to preach to us the benefits of smoking pot for the second time in a few days[/p][/quote]It's not about preaching the benefits, it's the fact that they are making a big deal out of Cannabis when they should be looking to make Alcohol and Tobacco illegal. Weed already is. These 2 forms of legal drugs are far more damaging than weed. Wow 2 contributions to death for weed ever? Even if that were true, how many people die a year from Alcohol and Tobacco. I don't mean to put a downer on this mans tragic death, but blaming weed is just simply stupid.[/p][/quote]No one should be looking to make alcohol or tobacco illegal. We don't need further restrictions on our adult sovereignty. That's one of the most important (if not THE MOST important) points about ending the prohibition on Cannabis. Alcohol and tobacco can definitely be very bad for you if not used responsibly (I personally don't see the point in smoking tobacco at all), and so can Cannabis to a (much) lesser extent. What we need to do is make sure people are educated with the FACTS about different types of drugs so that they can make their own choices about whether to use them or not. Making drugs illegal and restricting our liberties is ALWAYS going to cause more problems than it solves. If one does some proper research into prohibition this will soon become obvious to them. People want to be free. jp1983
  • Score: 14

2:19pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Londonborn1993 says...

nickynoodah wrote:
Londonborn1993 says... place a kilo of it in one of his orifices.

you light it with a match
you are an out of your mind mad man you know george
Who the **** is George? Why do you keep calling everyone George?
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Londonborn1993 says... place a kilo of it in one of his orifices. you light it with a match you are an out of your mind mad man you know george[/p][/quote]Who the **** is George? Why do you keep calling everyone George? Londonborn1993
  • Score: 2

2:30pm Wed 5 Feb 14

nickynoodah says...

You sound stoned stupid George
so wind your neck in
no wonder you cant get a job.
You sound stoned stupid George so wind your neck in no wonder you cant get a job. nickynoodah
  • Score: -20

2:34pm Wed 5 Feb 14

BarrHumbug says...

I wonder how much the Echo receive from advertisers for every click generated, and if maybe that revenue could possibly influence their journalistic integrity when they write these articles? Hmmm I wonder?
I wonder how much the Echo receive from advertisers for every click generated, and if maybe that revenue could possibly influence their journalistic integrity when they write these articles? Hmmm I wonder? BarrHumbug
  • Score: 13

2:36pm Wed 5 Feb 14

JustForPoole says...

I have never read so much rubbish .... this poor guy died because his actions were impaired by the use of an illegal drug .... END OF!!!!! And yes it could be exactly the same scenario if it were alcohol!!!! At the end of the day you take the risk you suffer the consequence!!!!
I have never read so much rubbish .... this poor guy died because his actions were impaired by the use of an illegal drug .... END OF!!!!! And yes it could be exactly the same scenario if it were alcohol!!!! At the end of the day you take the risk you suffer the consequence!!!! JustForPoole
  • Score: -14

2:38pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Hudo1968 says...

As a friend of Paul's I am really happy that this has become an argument between a bunch of fools. Please leave this page alone and have some respect. It is sad enough without all the bickering.
As a friend of Paul's I am really happy that this has become an argument between a bunch of fools. Please leave this page alone and have some respect. It is sad enough without all the bickering. Hudo1968
  • Score: -3

2:46pm Wed 5 Feb 14

charvisioku says...

SympatheticSam wrote:
Cue all the pot heads to defend weed....
Yeah you're right, people are always dying of cannabis poisoning. It's not as though it's disrespectful towards this dead man to use him as a piece of anti-drug propaganda or anything. I'm sure he'd have been completely okay with being referred to as dying of a "cannabis overdose".

Whether weed is good or bad, people don't die from it. The only way a person would realistically die because of marijuana is if they were to smoke and then drive while they were stoned or something like that.
[quote][p][bold]SympatheticSam[/bold] wrote: Cue all the pot heads to defend weed....[/p][/quote]Yeah you're right, people are always dying of cannabis poisoning. It's not as though it's disrespectful towards this dead man to use him as a piece of anti-drug propaganda or anything. I'm sure he'd have been completely okay with being referred to as dying of a "cannabis overdose". Whether weed is good or bad, people don't die from it. The only way a person would realistically die because of marijuana is if they were to smoke and then drive while they were stoned or something like that. charvisioku
  • Score: 8

3:02pm Wed 5 Feb 14

JustScott says...

I've never heard of someone dying twice? "Overdosed" then died of carbon monoxide poisoning??
1. It's almost impossible to overdose on cannabis. Science and medicine tells us that you'd have to consume 1/3 your bodyweight in cannabis, not going to happen.
2. Why was he smoking a spliff in his car with engine running anyway? It's comparable to drink driving. Did he fall asleep and leave the engine on? How many people drink and do that but you don't hear about them.

FFS the world starts to wake up whilst the British media continue to peddle crap and try to delay any legalisation efforts here.
I've never heard of someone dying twice? "Overdosed" then died of carbon monoxide poisoning?? 1. It's almost impossible to overdose on cannabis. Science and medicine tells us that you'd have to consume 1/3 your bodyweight in cannabis, not going to happen. 2. Why was he smoking a spliff in his car with engine running anyway? It's comparable to drink driving. Did he fall asleep and leave the engine on? How many people drink and do that but you don't hear about them. FFS the world starts to wake up whilst the British media continue to peddle crap and try to delay any legalisation efforts here. JustScott
  • Score: 18

3:02pm Wed 5 Feb 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Hudo1968 wrote:
As a friend of Paul's I am really happy that this has become an argument between a bunch of fools. Please leave this page alone and have some respect. It is sad enough without all the bickering.
Sorry ,Didn,t mean to be disrespectful.Sure he deserved more dignity
[quote][p][bold]Hudo1968[/bold] wrote: As a friend of Paul's I am really happy that this has become an argument between a bunch of fools. Please leave this page alone and have some respect. It is sad enough without all the bickering.[/p][/quote]Sorry ,Didn,t mean to be disrespectful.Sure he deserved more dignity kalebmoledirt
  • Score: 6

3:05pm Wed 5 Feb 14

thevoiceofreason1 says...

JustForPoole wrote:
I have never read so much rubbish .... this poor guy died because his actions were impaired by the use of an illegal drug .... END OF!!!!! And yes it could be exactly the same scenario if it were alcohol!!!! At the end of the day you take the risk you suffer the consequence!!!!
ignorance is bliss,either try it so you actually have a real perspective on it or shut up.
cannabis impairment as you may wish to call it would have made him less likely to gas himself.
now alcohol being MASSIVELY TOXIC in comparison could well be a factor!

"END OF" what makes you think you are in charge...just another cretin!!
[quote][p][bold]JustForPoole[/bold] wrote: I have never read so much rubbish .... this poor guy died because his actions were impaired by the use of an illegal drug .... END OF!!!!! And yes it could be exactly the same scenario if it were alcohol!!!! At the end of the day you take the risk you suffer the consequence!!!![/p][/quote]ignorance is bliss,either try it so you actually have a real perspective on it or shut up. cannabis impairment as you may wish to call it would have made him less likely to gas himself. now alcohol being MASSIVELY TOXIC in comparison could well be a factor! "END OF" what makes you think you are in charge...just another cretin!! thevoiceofreason1
  • Score: 3

3:11pm Wed 5 Feb 14

JustForPoole says...

thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
JustForPoole wrote:
I have never read so much rubbish .... this poor guy died because his actions were impaired by the use of an illegal drug .... END OF!!!!! And yes it could be exactly the same scenario if it were alcohol!!!! At the end of the day you take the risk you suffer the consequence!!!!
ignorance is bliss,either try it so you actually have a real perspective on it or shut up.
cannabis impairment as you may wish to call it would have made him less likely to gas himself.
now alcohol being MASSIVELY TOXIC in comparison could well be a factor!

"END OF" what makes you think you are in charge...just another cretin!!
the voice of no reason ... speaker of absolute rubbish
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JustForPoole[/bold] wrote: I have never read so much rubbish .... this poor guy died because his actions were impaired by the use of an illegal drug .... END OF!!!!! And yes it could be exactly the same scenario if it were alcohol!!!! At the end of the day you take the risk you suffer the consequence!!!![/p][/quote]ignorance is bliss,either try it so you actually have a real perspective on it or shut up. cannabis impairment as you may wish to call it would have made him less likely to gas himself. now alcohol being MASSIVELY TOXIC in comparison could well be a factor! "END OF" what makes you think you are in charge...just another cretin!![/p][/quote]the voice of no reason ... speaker of absolute rubbish JustForPoole
  • Score: -5

3:16pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Simon2503 says...

This plant that grows in the ground is making big news with its medical benefits, especially in America, clearly people over here are getting worried, and I'm betting Big Pharma is one of them, and as for the overdose on cannabis, well, I can't stop laughing! :-D

Ignorance is like fresh air.................
..it's everywhere!
This plant that grows in the ground is making big news with its medical benefits, especially in America, clearly people over here are getting worried, and I'm betting Big Pharma is one of them, and as for the overdose on cannabis, well, I can't stop laughing! :-D Ignorance is like fresh air................. ..it's everywhere! Simon2503
  • Score: 16

3:56pm Wed 5 Feb 14

blackdog1 says...

I am amazed by the amount of people on this Echo site that go on and on about how good/safe cannabis is?It is illegal and it is supplied by criminals!
When houses are being burgled,cars being broken into,stolen goods being traded its all part of the total drug problem! If your buying cannabis do you really think thats all they do? Unless of course everyone is growing it themselves?Anyone who reads this Echo website would assume that most of the Bournemouth residents are on it?God help us!
I am amazed by the amount of people on this Echo site that go on and on about how good/safe cannabis is?It is illegal and it is supplied by criminals! When houses are being burgled,cars being broken into,stolen goods being traded its all part of the total drug problem! If your buying cannabis do you really think thats all they do? Unless of course everyone is growing it themselves?Anyone who reads this Echo website would assume that most of the Bournemouth residents are on it?God help us! blackdog1
  • Score: -14

4:00pm Wed 5 Feb 14

pete woodley says...

SympatheticSam wrote:
Cue all the pot heads to defend weed....
So many experts giving their advice.
[quote][p][bold]SympatheticSam[/bold] wrote: Cue all the pot heads to defend weed....[/p][/quote]So many experts giving their advice. pete woodley
  • Score: 4

4:01pm Wed 5 Feb 14

JustForPoole says...

blackdog1 wrote:
I am amazed by the amount of people on this Echo site that go on and on about how good/safe cannabis is?It is illegal and it is supplied by criminals!
When houses are being burgled,cars being broken into,stolen goods being traded its all part of the total drug problem! If your buying cannabis do you really think thats all they do? Unless of course everyone is growing it themselves?Anyone who reads this Echo website would assume that most of the Bournemouth residents are on it?God help us!
Well spoken !!!
[quote][p][bold]blackdog1[/bold] wrote: I am amazed by the amount of people on this Echo site that go on and on about how good/safe cannabis is?It is illegal and it is supplied by criminals! When houses are being burgled,cars being broken into,stolen goods being traded its all part of the total drug problem! If your buying cannabis do you really think thats all they do? Unless of course everyone is growing it themselves?Anyone who reads this Echo website would assume that most of the Bournemouth residents are on it?God help us![/p][/quote]Well spoken !!! JustForPoole
  • Score: -17

4:30pm Wed 5 Feb 14

O'Reilly says...

Franks Tank wrote:
Who said smoking pot makes you paranoid?
"Paranoia ...is the complete state of awareness." - (Alan Ginsberg)
[quote][p][bold]Franks Tank[/bold] wrote: Who said smoking pot makes you paranoid?[/p][/quote]"Paranoia ...is the complete state of awareness." - (Alan Ginsberg) O'Reilly
  • Score: -9

4:40pm Wed 5 Feb 14

O'Reilly says...

Londonborn1993 wrote:
nickynoodah wrote:
Londonborn1993 says... place a kilo of it in one of his orifices.

you light it with a match
you are an out of your mind mad man you know george
Who the **** is George? Why do you keep calling everyone George?
I think 'she' used to work at Asda.......
[quote][p][bold]Londonborn1993[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: Londonborn1993 says... place a kilo of it in one of his orifices. you light it with a match you are an out of your mind mad man you know george[/p][/quote]Who the **** is George? Why do you keep calling everyone George?[/p][/quote]I think 'she' used to work at Asda....... O'Reilly
  • Score: -20

4:47pm Wed 5 Feb 14

aderumbold says...

Loving all these 'anti cannabis' posts...If cannabis is so dangerous why do so many US states allow it for medical use? Why are more and more states passing laws to allow recreational use? Why has Uruguay passed laws to allow everyone who wants to use to do so countrywide??

I bet nearly everyone who is anti cannabis on this post takes a drink and i bet some smoke cigs...2 of the biggest killers in the world...

Times are changing, people are fast becoming aware that cannabis is not the drug people once thought it was...It is not in the same band as harder drugs (coke and heroin etc)
But of course cannabis is against the law, well so is speeding, downloading pirate movies etc.....Can all you 'anti' crowd hold your hands up and say you've never broken the law?? No, i thought not....
Loving all these 'anti cannabis' posts...If cannabis is so dangerous why do so many US states allow it for medical use? Why are more and more states passing laws to allow recreational use? Why has Uruguay passed laws to allow everyone who wants to use to do so countrywide?? I bet nearly everyone who is anti cannabis on this post takes a drink and i bet some smoke cigs...2 of the biggest killers in the world... Times are changing, people are fast becoming aware that cannabis is not the drug people once thought it was...It is not in the same band as harder drugs (coke and heroin etc) But of course cannabis is against the law, well so is speeding, downloading pirate movies etc.....Can all you 'anti' crowd hold your hands up and say you've never broken the law?? No, i thought not.... aderumbold
  • Score: 17

4:53pm Wed 5 Feb 14

kalebmoledirt says...

aderumbold wrote:
Loving all these 'anti cannabis' posts...If cannabis is so dangerous why do so many US states allow it for medical use? Why are more and more states passing laws to allow recreational use? Why has Uruguay passed laws to allow everyone who wants to use to do so countrywide??

I bet nearly everyone who is anti cannabis on this post takes a drink and i bet some smoke cigs...2 of the biggest killers in the world...

Times are changing, people are fast becoming aware that cannabis is not the drug people once thought it was...It is not in the same band as harder drugs (coke and heroin etc)
But of course cannabis is against the law, well so is speeding, downloading pirate movies etc.....Can all you 'anti' crowd hold your hands up and say you've never broken the law?? No, i thought not....
Good point well presented ,but it does loose cred when you mention American states that probably have very Liberal gun laws
[quote][p][bold]aderumbold[/bold] wrote: Loving all these 'anti cannabis' posts...If cannabis is so dangerous why do so many US states allow it for medical use? Why are more and more states passing laws to allow recreational use? Why has Uruguay passed laws to allow everyone who wants to use to do so countrywide?? I bet nearly everyone who is anti cannabis on this post takes a drink and i bet some smoke cigs...2 of the biggest killers in the world... Times are changing, people are fast becoming aware that cannabis is not the drug people once thought it was...It is not in the same band as harder drugs (coke and heroin etc) But of course cannabis is against the law, well so is speeding, downloading pirate movies etc.....Can all you 'anti' crowd hold your hands up and say you've never broken the law?? No, i thought not....[/p][/quote]Good point well presented ,but it does loose cred when you mention American states that probably have very Liberal gun laws kalebmoledirt
  • Score: -8

4:53pm Wed 5 Feb 14

thevoiceofreason1 says...

JustForPoole wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
JustForPoole wrote:
I have never read so much rubbish .... this poor guy died because his actions were impaired by the use of an illegal drug .... END OF!!!!! And yes it could be exactly the same scenario if it were alcohol!!!! At the end of the day you take the risk you suffer the consequence!!!!
ignorance is bliss,either try it so you actually have a real perspective on it or shut up.
cannabis impairment as you may wish to call it would have made him less likely to gas himself.
now alcohol being MASSIVELY TOXIC in comparison could well be a factor!

"END OF" what makes you think you are in charge...just another cretin!!
the voice of no reason ... speaker of absolute rubbish
well i would usually be vigorously denying that...but as we already know you are a cretin there is no point.
i would suggest you remove your head from your rear orifice,wipe the excretia from your eyes and see the truth.
[quote][p][bold]JustForPoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JustForPoole[/bold] wrote: I have never read so much rubbish .... this poor guy died because his actions were impaired by the use of an illegal drug .... END OF!!!!! And yes it could be exactly the same scenario if it were alcohol!!!! At the end of the day you take the risk you suffer the consequence!!!![/p][/quote]ignorance is bliss,either try it so you actually have a real perspective on it or shut up. cannabis impairment as you may wish to call it would have made him less likely to gas himself. now alcohol being MASSIVELY TOXIC in comparison could well be a factor! "END OF" what makes you think you are in charge...just another cretin!![/p][/quote]the voice of no reason ... speaker of absolute rubbish[/p][/quote]well i would usually be vigorously denying that...but as we already know you are a cretin there is no point. i would suggest you remove your head from your rear orifice,wipe the excretia from your eyes and see the truth. thevoiceofreason1
  • Score: -5

4:56pm Wed 5 Feb 14

thevoiceofreason1 says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
Hudo1968 wrote:
As a friend of Paul's I am really happy that this has become an argument between a bunch of fools. Please leave this page alone and have some respect. It is sad enough without all the bickering.
Sorry ,Didn,t mean to be disrespectful.Sure he deserved more dignity
i concur i wish no disrespect but am infuriated by the echo and the idiocy of many of the posters
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hudo1968[/bold] wrote: As a friend of Paul's I am really happy that this has become an argument between a bunch of fools. Please leave this page alone and have some respect. It is sad enough without all the bickering.[/p][/quote]Sorry ,Didn,t mean to be disrespectful.Sure he deserved more dignity[/p][/quote]i concur i wish no disrespect but am infuriated by the echo and the idiocy of many of the posters thevoiceofreason1
  • Score: 6

5:03pm Wed 5 Feb 14

dylexic bobert says...

The coroners office has had a memo from our superiors if cannabis is in the system then include it in your report.
Have some of my most beautiful sleeps while trollied which seems to have occurred here.But to overdose well believe me I've tried on more than one occasion in my youth a few whiteys that's about it . They'll be more of this in the coming months must be some heavy duty lobbying for a relaxing of the rules regarding cannabis use up in Westminster. But those tory voters ain't buying into that one.So our mate Dave is gonna try and keep em all sweet.
The coroners office has had a memo from our superiors if cannabis is in the system then include it in your report. Have some of my most beautiful sleeps while trollied which seems to have occurred here.But to overdose well believe me I've tried on more than one occasion in my youth a few whiteys that's about it . They'll be more of this in the coming months must be some heavy duty lobbying for a relaxing of the rules regarding cannabis use up in Westminster. But those tory voters ain't buying into that one.So our mate Dave is gonna try and keep em all sweet. dylexic bobert
  • Score: 5

5:06pm Wed 5 Feb 14

nickynoodah says...

bet nearly everyone who is anti cannabis on this post takes a drink and i bet some smoke cigs.....

wrong wrong again George
bet nearly everyone who is anti cannabis on this post takes a drink and i bet some smoke cigs..... wrong wrong again George nickynoodah
  • Score: -10

5:36pm Wed 5 Feb 14

aderumbold says...

nickynoodah wrote:
bet nearly everyone who is anti cannabis on this post takes a drink and i bet some smoke cigs.....

wrong wrong again George
How is this wrong?? You can vouch for everyone can you??
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: bet nearly everyone who is anti cannabis on this post takes a drink and i bet some smoke cigs..... wrong wrong again George[/p][/quote]How is this wrong?? You can vouch for everyone can you?? aderumbold
  • Score: 4

5:43pm Wed 5 Feb 14

JustForPoole says...

thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
JustForPoole wrote:
thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
JustForPoole wrote:
I have never read so much rubbish .... this poor guy died because his actions were impaired by the use of an illegal drug .... END OF!!!!! And yes it could be exactly the same scenario if it were alcohol!!!! At the end of the day you take the risk you suffer the consequence!!!!
ignorance is bliss,either try it so you actually have a real perspective on it or shut up.
cannabis impairment as you may wish to call it would have made him less likely to gas himself.
now alcohol being MASSIVELY TOXIC in comparison could well be a factor!

"END OF" what makes you think you are in charge...just another cretin!!
the voice of no reason ... speaker of absolute rubbish
well i would usually be vigorously denying that...but as we already know you are a cretin there is no point.
i would suggest you remove your head from your rear orifice,wipe the excretia from your eyes and see the truth.
the substance you speak of spills from your mouth .... absolute twaddle and not worth further reading
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JustForPoole[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JustForPoole[/bold] wrote: I have never read so much rubbish .... this poor guy died because his actions were impaired by the use of an illegal drug .... END OF!!!!! And yes it could be exactly the same scenario if it were alcohol!!!! At the end of the day you take the risk you suffer the consequence!!!![/p][/quote]ignorance is bliss,either try it so you actually have a real perspective on it or shut up. cannabis impairment as you may wish to call it would have made him less likely to gas himself. now alcohol being MASSIVELY TOXIC in comparison could well be a factor! "END OF" what makes you think you are in charge...just another cretin!![/p][/quote]the voice of no reason ... speaker of absolute rubbish[/p][/quote]well i would usually be vigorously denying that...but as we already know you are a cretin there is no point. i would suggest you remove your head from your rear orifice,wipe the excretia from your eyes and see the truth.[/p][/quote]the substance you speak of spills from your mouth .... absolute twaddle and not worth further reading JustForPoole
  • Score: 5

5:46pm Wed 5 Feb 14

ragj195 says...

rozmister wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
rozmister wrote: Whilst the weed may not have killed him due to toxicity surely it is a factor in his death? We don't know the circumstances but perhaps he was too stoned to drive hence the CO2 or perhaps he had mental health problems that were made worse by prolonged weed smoking? Weed may not be toxic according to scientific evidence but it is linked to hundreds of deaths around the world every year as a contributing factor. The comments on here trying to make out it's safer than safe are a bit disturbing when you factor that in.
Yes you're right but millions of people smoke weed so the fatality rate is statistically insignificant. Move on.
In proportion to the amount of journeys carried out in vehicles death in a vehicle is statistically insignificant. That doesn't stop us driving road safety and being aware of the dangers. I'm sure the families of people who die with weed as a contributing factor can't just 'move on' and don't feel their family member is 'statistically insignificant'. Your crass comment shows how focused you are on pushing the cause for weed without acknowledging the risks.
Focused? No, just a realist. I don't even smoke weed but there are a million other things that pose a greater risk to your health than smoking weed. Shall we acknowledge the risks of all of them or is it just weed today because the Echo has told us so?
[quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: Whilst the weed may not have killed him due to toxicity surely it is a factor in his death? We don't know the circumstances but perhaps he was too stoned to drive hence the CO2 or perhaps he had mental health problems that were made worse by prolonged weed smoking? Weed may not be toxic according to scientific evidence but it is linked to hundreds of deaths around the world every year as a contributing factor. The comments on here trying to make out it's safer than safe are a bit disturbing when you factor that in.[/p][/quote]Yes you're right but millions of people smoke weed so the fatality rate is statistically insignificant. Move on.[/p][/quote]In proportion to the amount of journeys carried out in vehicles death in a vehicle is statistically insignificant. That doesn't stop us driving road safety and being aware of the dangers. I'm sure the families of people who die with weed as a contributing factor can't just 'move on' and don't feel their family member is 'statistically insignificant'. Your crass comment shows how focused you are on pushing the cause for weed without acknowledging the risks.[/p][/quote]Focused? No, just a realist. I don't even smoke weed but there are a million other things that pose a greater risk to your health than smoking weed. Shall we acknowledge the risks of all of them or is it just weed today because the Echo has told us so? ragj195
  • Score: 3

5:49pm Wed 5 Feb 14

thevoiceofreason1 says...

nickynoodah wrote:
bet nearly everyone who is anti cannabis on this post takes a drink and i bet some smoke cigs.....

wrong wrong again George
nickynoodah says...i really am a troll!
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: bet nearly everyone who is anti cannabis on this post takes a drink and i bet some smoke cigs..... wrong wrong again George[/p][/quote]nickynoodah says...i really am a troll! thevoiceofreason1
  • Score: 1

5:55pm Wed 5 Feb 14

thevoiceofreason1 says...

blackdog1 wrote:
I am amazed by the amount of people on this Echo site that go on and on about how good/safe cannabis is?It is illegal and it is supplied by criminals!
When houses are being burgled,cars being broken into,stolen goods being traded its all part of the total drug problem! If your buying cannabis do you really think thats all they do? Unless of course everyone is growing it themselves?Anyone who reads this Echo website would assume that most of the Bournemouth residents are on it?God help us!
your average user would not get any further than robbing a housemates munchies from the kitchen.make the effort to go out and rob something...LMAO
[quote][p][bold]blackdog1[/bold] wrote: I am amazed by the amount of people on this Echo site that go on and on about how good/safe cannabis is?It is illegal and it is supplied by criminals! When houses are being burgled,cars being broken into,stolen goods being traded its all part of the total drug problem! If your buying cannabis do you really think thats all they do? Unless of course everyone is growing it themselves?Anyone who reads this Echo website would assume that most of the Bournemouth residents are on it?God help us![/p][/quote]your average user would not get any further than robbing a housemates munchies from the kitchen.make the effort to go out and rob something...LMAO thevoiceofreason1
  • Score: 13

7:04pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Dahlia77 says...

Paul was our good friend also and we are sad that this has been reported this way as he was not the person portrayed in today’s article. I am not going to add anything else accept read what you will into the piece, however I will say that he was obviously not a happy person on his last day and he probably wanted to be as comfortable as possible in his last few minutes on this earth. I just hope that anyone reading this that is struggling with life today or knows someone else that is please don't suffer in silence.. Contact the Samaritans on 01202 551999 or the charity Mind on 0300123 33 93. If PK's death can save someone else from this distressing condition called Mental Health problems then at least PK did not die in vain.
Paul was our good friend also and we are sad that this has been reported this way as he was not the person portrayed in today’s article. I am not going to add anything else accept read what you will into the piece, however I will say that he was obviously not a happy person on his last day and he probably wanted to be as comfortable as possible in his last few minutes on this earth. I just hope that anyone reading this that is struggling with life today or knows someone else that is please don't suffer in silence.. Contact the Samaritans on 01202 551999 or the charity Mind on 0300123 33 93. If PK's death can save someone else from this distressing condition called Mental Health problems then at least PK did not die in vain. Dahlia77
  • Score: 8

7:11pm Wed 5 Feb 14

O'Reilly says...

Holy cow!!! 'bob hope' is the new 'smack' .......demonisation is in full flow..... enlighten yourselves a little.

http://www.drugwarra
nt.com/2014/02/heard
-in-congress/
Holy cow!!! 'bob hope' is the new 'smack' .......demonisation is in full flow..... enlighten yourselves a little. http://www.drugwarra nt.com/2014/02/heard -in-congress/ O'Reilly
  • Score: -3

7:25pm Wed 5 Feb 14

ashleycross says...

Cannabis stinks, and the people using it feel sorry for themselves all the time.
Cannabis stinks, and the people using it feel sorry for themselves all the time. ashleycross
  • Score: 1

7:28pm Wed 5 Feb 14

ashleycross says...

About time that anyone working in a bar had to produce clean urine on a regular basis to the licencing authorities.
About time that anyone working in a bar had to produce clean urine on a regular basis to the licencing authorities. ashleycross
  • Score: 1

7:33pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Simon2503 says...

ashleycross wrote:
Cannabis stinks, and the people using it feel sorry for themselves all the time.
One word.............clu
eless! :-)
[quote][p][bold]ashleycross[/bold] wrote: Cannabis stinks, and the people using it feel sorry for themselves all the time.[/p][/quote]One word.............clu eless! :-) Simon2503
  • Score: -1

7:37pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Simon2503 says...

nickynoodah wrote:
simon2503 says What an ignorant post, you my friend, do not have a clue about cannabis and its medical benefits. Secondly, you do not know the difference between 'legal' and 'lawful' either, now, shut up, get back in line, and continue being an ignorant robot believing everything you read in a newspaper! Oh, my sister once had a cancerous mole on her arm and guess what, cannabis oil healed it......yup, totally gone! :-)

you sure it was on her arm george
Yes, I was there, it is what it is! There are countless vids on YT, this is just one:

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=r4lsvHMkW
Fg
[quote][p][bold]nickynoodah[/bold] wrote: simon2503 says What an ignorant post, you my friend, do not have a clue about cannabis and its medical benefits. Secondly, you do not know the difference between 'legal' and 'lawful' either, now, shut up, get back in line, and continue being an ignorant robot believing everything you read in a newspaper! Oh, my sister once had a cancerous mole on her arm and guess what, cannabis oil healed it......yup, totally gone! :-) you sure it was on her arm george[/p][/quote]Yes, I was there, it is what it is! There are countless vids on YT, this is just one: http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=r4lsvHMkW Fg Simon2503
  • Score: -3

7:47pm Wed 5 Feb 14

kalebmoledirt says...

Enough,heard it all last week. tedious bunch of self indulgent outspoken bunch of morons try a few days off the stuff get a job.And God forbid any other poor sod as his judgment impaired with narcotics.which at least Will give people who seem to manage life without the need to line the pockets of some sleazy petty criminals who are a step up the ladder and supplying your kids with crack
Bring it on I have a life
Enough,heard it all last week. tedious bunch of self indulgent outspoken bunch of morons try a few days off the stuff get a job.And God forbid any other poor sod as his judgment impaired with narcotics.which at least Will give people who seem to manage life without the need to line the pockets of some sleazy petty criminals who are a step up the ladder and supplying your kids with crack Bring it on I have a life kalebmoledirt
  • Score: -10

8:47pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Domingo De Santa Clara says...

Completely ridiculous and unfounded supposition to suggest an overdose of cannabis.
I'm not "defending" pot,but lets just get the facts straight.
My sympathy to the family.
Completely ridiculous and unfounded supposition to suggest an overdose of cannabis. I'm not "defending" pot,but lets just get the facts straight. My sympathy to the family. Domingo De Santa Clara
  • Score: 6

9:39pm Wed 5 Feb 14

silverskins says...

Dahlia77 wrote:
Paul was our good friend also and we are sad that this has been reported this way as he was not the person portrayed in today’s article. I am not going to add anything else accept read what you will into the piece, however I will say that he was obviously not a happy person on his last day and he probably wanted to be as comfortable as possible in his last few minutes on this earth. I just hope that anyone reading this that is struggling with life today or knows someone else that is please don't suffer in silence.. Contact the Samaritans on 01202 551999 or the charity Mind on 0300123 33 93. If PK's death can save someone else from this distressing condition called Mental Health problems then at least PK did not die in vain.
This! ..sorry for your loss.
[quote][p][bold]Dahlia77[/bold] wrote: Paul was our good friend also and we are sad that this has been reported this way as he was not the person portrayed in today’s article. I am not going to add anything else accept read what you will into the piece, however I will say that he was obviously not a happy person on his last day and he probably wanted to be as comfortable as possible in his last few minutes on this earth. I just hope that anyone reading this that is struggling with life today or knows someone else that is please don't suffer in silence.. Contact the Samaritans on 01202 551999 or the charity Mind on 0300123 33 93. If PK's death can save someone else from this distressing condition called Mental Health problems then at least PK did not die in vain.[/p][/quote]This! ..sorry for your loss. silverskins
  • Score: -4

10:08pm Wed 5 Feb 14

rozmister says...

ragj195 wrote:
rozmister wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
rozmister wrote: Whilst the weed may not have killed him due to toxicity surely it is a factor in his death? We don't know the circumstances but perhaps he was too stoned to drive hence the CO2 or perhaps he had mental health problems that were made worse by prolonged weed smoking? Weed may not be toxic according to scientific evidence but it is linked to hundreds of deaths around the world every year as a contributing factor. The comments on here trying to make out it's safer than safe are a bit disturbing when you factor that in.
Yes you're right but millions of people smoke weed so the fatality rate is statistically insignificant. Move on.
In proportion to the amount of journeys carried out in vehicles death in a vehicle is statistically insignificant. That doesn't stop us driving road safety and being aware of the dangers. I'm sure the families of people who die with weed as a contributing factor can't just 'move on' and don't feel their family member is 'statistically insignificant'. Your crass comment shows how focused you are on pushing the cause for weed without acknowledging the risks.
Focused? No, just a realist. I don't even smoke weed but there are a million other things that pose a greater risk to your health than smoking weed. Shall we acknowledge the risks of all of them or is it just weed today because the Echo has told us so?
If the topic is weed then yes we acknowledge the risk rather than saying it's amazing and harmless. The same way you'd say that about cigarettes, alcohol or crossing the road. Weed should be legalised, regulated and taxed but then people should be educated on the danger it poses to their mental health if they're susceptible to mental health issues just like we SHOULD educate them in the same way about alcohol and cigarettes.
[quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: Whilst the weed may not have killed him due to toxicity surely it is a factor in his death? We don't know the circumstances but perhaps he was too stoned to drive hence the CO2 or perhaps he had mental health problems that were made worse by prolonged weed smoking? Weed may not be toxic according to scientific evidence but it is linked to hundreds of deaths around the world every year as a contributing factor. The comments on here trying to make out it's safer than safe are a bit disturbing when you factor that in.[/p][/quote]Yes you're right but millions of people smoke weed so the fatality rate is statistically insignificant. Move on.[/p][/quote]In proportion to the amount of journeys carried out in vehicles death in a vehicle is statistically insignificant. That doesn't stop us driving road safety and being aware of the dangers. I'm sure the families of people who die with weed as a contributing factor can't just 'move on' and don't feel their family member is 'statistically insignificant'. Your crass comment shows how focused you are on pushing the cause for weed without acknowledging the risks.[/p][/quote]Focused? No, just a realist. I don't even smoke weed but there are a million other things that pose a greater risk to your health than smoking weed. Shall we acknowledge the risks of all of them or is it just weed today because the Echo has told us so?[/p][/quote]If the topic is weed then yes we acknowledge the risk rather than saying it's amazing and harmless. The same way you'd say that about cigarettes, alcohol or crossing the road. Weed should be legalised, regulated and taxed but then people should be educated on the danger it poses to their mental health if they're susceptible to mental health issues just like we SHOULD educate them in the same way about alcohol and cigarettes. rozmister
  • Score: 6

10:39pm Wed 5 Feb 14

ragj195 says...

rozmister wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
rozmister wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
rozmister wrote: Whilst the weed may not have killed him due to toxicity surely it is a factor in his death? We don't know the circumstances but perhaps he was too stoned to drive hence the CO2 or perhaps he had mental health problems that were made worse by prolonged weed smoking? Weed may not be toxic according to scientific evidence but it is linked to hundreds of deaths around the world every year as a contributing factor. The comments on here trying to make out it's safer than safe are a bit disturbing when you factor that in.
Yes you're right but millions of people smoke weed so the fatality rate is statistically insignificant. Move on.
In proportion to the amount of journeys carried out in vehicles death in a vehicle is statistically insignificant. That doesn't stop us driving road safety and being aware of the dangers. I'm sure the families of people who die with weed as a contributing factor can't just 'move on' and don't feel their family member is 'statistically insignificant'. Your crass comment shows how focused you are on pushing the cause for weed without acknowledging the risks.
Focused? No, just a realist. I don't even smoke weed but there are a million other things that pose a greater risk to your health than smoking weed. Shall we acknowledge the risks of all of them or is it just weed today because the Echo has told us so?
If the topic is weed then yes we acknowledge the risk rather than saying it's amazing and harmless. The same way you'd say that about cigarettes, alcohol or crossing the road. Weed should be legalised, regulated and taxed but then people should be educated on the danger it poses to their mental health if they're susceptible to mental health issues just like we SHOULD educate them in the same way about alcohol and cigarettes.
Okay so regardless of how small the risk, we should acknowledge the risks? Because you say so? Your posts often make some sense but you're way off on this one. People are saying it's harmless because statistics have proven that it is. Would you be "disturbed" by people discussing how much they like red meat, sweetener, processed wheat, along with the hundreds of other things that are scientifically proven to be harmful to us?

Next time the Bournemouth Marathon takes place should we acknowledge the risks of running because running has been a contributing factor in the deaths some runners in the past? If you want to that's fine but I don't see why you should be telling others to do the same.
[quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: Whilst the weed may not have killed him due to toxicity surely it is a factor in his death? We don't know the circumstances but perhaps he was too stoned to drive hence the CO2 or perhaps he had mental health problems that were made worse by prolonged weed smoking? Weed may not be toxic according to scientific evidence but it is linked to hundreds of deaths around the world every year as a contributing factor. The comments on here trying to make out it's safer than safe are a bit disturbing when you factor that in.[/p][/quote]Yes you're right but millions of people smoke weed so the fatality rate is statistically insignificant. Move on.[/p][/quote]In proportion to the amount of journeys carried out in vehicles death in a vehicle is statistically insignificant. That doesn't stop us driving road safety and being aware of the dangers. I'm sure the families of people who die with weed as a contributing factor can't just 'move on' and don't feel their family member is 'statistically insignificant'. Your crass comment shows how focused you are on pushing the cause for weed without acknowledging the risks.[/p][/quote]Focused? No, just a realist. I don't even smoke weed but there are a million other things that pose a greater risk to your health than smoking weed. Shall we acknowledge the risks of all of them or is it just weed today because the Echo has told us so?[/p][/quote]If the topic is weed then yes we acknowledge the risk rather than saying it's amazing and harmless. The same way you'd say that about cigarettes, alcohol or crossing the road. Weed should be legalised, regulated and taxed but then people should be educated on the danger it poses to their mental health if they're susceptible to mental health issues just like we SHOULD educate them in the same way about alcohol and cigarettes.[/p][/quote]Okay so regardless of how small the risk, we should acknowledge the risks? Because you say so? Your posts often make some sense but you're way off on this one. People are saying it's harmless because statistics have proven that it is. Would you be "disturbed" by people discussing how much they like red meat, sweetener, processed wheat, along with the hundreds of other things that are scientifically proven to be harmful to us? Next time the Bournemouth Marathon takes place should we acknowledge the risks of running because running has been a contributing factor in the deaths some runners in the past? If you want to that's fine but I don't see why you should be telling others to do the same. ragj195
  • Score: -3

10:41pm Wed 5 Feb 14

DZ1313 says...

Well there's MSNBC, Fox News, and then there's the British media.
Well there's MSNBC, Fox News, and then there's the British media. DZ1313
  • Score: 0

10:52pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Dr Martin says...

PJ Reynolds wrote:
Statement from CLEAR Cannabis Law Reform.

Source: http://www.clear-uk.

org/insane-outbreak-

of-reefer-madness-at

-bournemouth-coroner

s-court/

According to the NHS, there has never been a case of fatal overdose or of confirmed death due to cannabis.

Now, in the space of a few days, two Bournemouth pathologists have given evidence to the Coroner’s Court of two cases of cannabis overdose leading to death.

Clearly, something very strange is going on and the overwhelming weight of scientific evidence is that the problem is not cannabis but an outbreak of hysteria in Bournemouth. It is utterly absurd that this sleepy seaside town on the south coast of England should suddenly become unique in the world for such events. It is nonsense and the chief executives of the two NHS Trusts involved, Chris Bown and Tony Spotswood, need to get a grip on their pathology departments.

The first case concerned Gemma Moss and the pathologist was Dr Kudair Hussein, employed by the Poole Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. The second case, in which a formal verdict has not yet been returned, concerns Paul Kenyon and the pathologist is Dr. Wessam Al-Utayem, employed by the Royal Bournemouth & Christchurch Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust.

Chris Grayling MP, Lord Chancellor, who is responsible for coroners, also needs to step in and calm the situation. The Bournemouth coroner and pathologists are in danger of becoming an international laughing stock and that is in nobody’s interests.
and what of the vote rigging on this story peter?
[quote][p][bold]PJ Reynolds[/bold] wrote: Statement from CLEAR Cannabis Law Reform. Source: http://www.clear-uk. org/insane-outbreak- of-reefer-madness-at -bournemouth-coroner s-court/ According to the NHS, there has never been a case of fatal overdose or of confirmed death due to cannabis. Now, in the space of a few days, two Bournemouth pathologists have given evidence to the Coroner’s Court of two cases of cannabis overdose leading to death. Clearly, something very strange is going on and the overwhelming weight of scientific evidence is that the problem is not cannabis but an outbreak of hysteria in Bournemouth. It is utterly absurd that this sleepy seaside town on the south coast of England should suddenly become unique in the world for such events. It is nonsense and the chief executives of the two NHS Trusts involved, Chris Bown and Tony Spotswood, need to get a grip on their pathology departments. The first case concerned Gemma Moss and the pathologist was Dr Kudair Hussein, employed by the Poole Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. The second case, in which a formal verdict has not yet been returned, concerns Paul Kenyon and the pathologist is Dr. Wessam Al-Utayem, employed by the Royal Bournemouth & Christchurch Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. Chris Grayling MP, Lord Chancellor, who is responsible for coroners, also needs to step in and calm the situation. The Bournemouth coroner and pathologists are in danger of becoming an international laughing stock and that is in nobody’s interests.[/p][/quote]and what of the vote rigging on this story peter? Dr Martin
  • Score: 3

10:54pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Dr Martin says...

SympatheticSam wrote:
Cue all the pot heads to defend weed....
Yep I know, a bit like rabid dogs if you dare speak up against their righteous herb
[quote][p][bold]SympatheticSam[/bold] wrote: Cue all the pot heads to defend weed....[/p][/quote]Yep I know, a bit like rabid dogs if you dare speak up against their righteous herb Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

10:58pm Wed 5 Feb 14

stukaville says...

The 'article' is poor beyond belief. You do not die from carbon monoxide poisoning by falling asleep in a car with an engine running unless you are in a garage with the door shut or a pipe leading from the exhaust to an open window. Why is there no mention of the state of the car, ie pipe or no pipe? There is no mention if a suicide note or lack of, no interviews with friends or family on his state of mind, no medical history mentioned, no **** all. Just that he smoked cannabis. No mention of how much cannabis was in his blood. Absolute garbage.
The 'article' is poor beyond belief. You do not die from carbon monoxide poisoning by falling asleep in a car with an engine running unless you are in a garage with the door shut or a pipe leading from the exhaust to an open window. Why is there no mention of the state of the car, ie pipe or no pipe? There is no mention if a suicide note or lack of, no interviews with friends or family on his state of mind, no medical history mentioned, no **** all. Just that he smoked cannabis. No mention of how much cannabis was in his blood. Absolute garbage. stukaville
  • Score: -1

1:02am Thu 6 Feb 14

legalize says...

Your stupidity reaches all the way here to sweden. You cant overdose on cannabis, period!
This makes even swedes laugh.
Sorry for the dude
Your stupidity reaches all the way here to sweden. You cant overdose on cannabis, period! This makes even swedes laugh. Sorry for the dude legalize
  • Score: -2

2:57am Thu 6 Feb 14

JayelleFarmer says...

kalebmoledirt wrote:
JayelleFarmer wrote:
"The court heard that Royal Bournemouth Hospital pathologist Dr Al-Utayem carried out a post-mortem and concluded that the cause of death was carbon monoxide poisoning, with a significant condition of cannabis overdose."

Two cases of pathologists stating cannabis overdoses in one week - and both from pathologists at the Royal Bournemouth hospital. The other case being the case of Gemma Moss:

"Pathologist Dr Kudair Hussein told the inquest in Bournemouth there were ‘moderate to heavy’ levels of cannabis-related chemicals in her blood."

This hospital has already got bad press. See article in this same newspaper:

"Dangerous and inadequate" - Care Quality Commission's damning report into Royal Bournemouth Hospital

"The CQC, England’s independent regulator of health and social care has already presented its report to a local quality summit including NHS commissioners, providers and regulators."

The independent regulator of health and social care needs to do an examination of the credentials, expertise and knowledge of the pharmacology of cannabis of all of the pathologists at the RBH.

In the meantime, the two pathologists connected with the Paul Kenyon and Gemma Moss cases should maybe stick with making kebabs. According to the eminent Prof. David Nutt, Chair of the Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs: "Smoking cannabis is not a killer, despite inquest findings."
Racist pseudo intellect .
So if the two pathologists concerned had "English sounding" names and I would have said "stick with making fish and chips" then that would have been OK???

Oh, so was THAT why my original post was deleted? PATHETIC, and then some.

No racism on my part intended - not in any way at all, as anyone who knows me as a campaigner will affirm. I was only suggesting alternative employment for two COMPLETELY incompetent pathologists in Bournemouth.

It's way past time for the UK government to step in and tax and regulate cannabis use for adult consumption in the UK along similar market lines to that of alcohol.

At least by doing so they would not be derelict in their duty of protecting minors in the UK from black market profiteers - AS THEY CURRENTLY ARE - which is the currently legally sanctioned situation by UK gov by their refusal to legally address this situation concerning cannabis use legalisation.
[quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JayelleFarmer[/bold] wrote: "The court heard that Royal Bournemouth Hospital pathologist Dr Al-Utayem carried out a post-mortem and concluded that the cause of death was carbon monoxide poisoning, with a significant condition of cannabis overdose." Two cases of pathologists stating cannabis overdoses in one week - and both from pathologists at the Royal Bournemouth hospital. The other case being the case of Gemma Moss: "Pathologist Dr Kudair Hussein told the inquest in Bournemouth there were ‘moderate to heavy’ levels of cannabis-related chemicals in her blood." This hospital has already got bad press. See article in this same newspaper: "Dangerous and inadequate" - Care Quality Commission's damning report into Royal Bournemouth Hospital "The CQC, England’s independent regulator of health and social care has already presented its report to a local quality summit including NHS commissioners, providers and regulators." The independent regulator of health and social care needs to do an examination of the credentials, expertise and knowledge of the pharmacology of cannabis of all of the pathologists at the RBH. In the meantime, the two pathologists connected with the Paul Kenyon and Gemma Moss cases should maybe stick with making kebabs. According to the eminent Prof. David Nutt, Chair of the Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs: "Smoking cannabis is not a killer, despite inquest findings."[/p][/quote]Racist pseudo intellect .[/p][/quote]So if the two pathologists concerned had "English sounding" names and I would have said "stick with making fish and chips" then that would have been OK??? Oh, so was THAT why my original post was deleted? PATHETIC, and then some. No racism on my part intended - not in any way at all, as anyone who knows me as a campaigner will affirm. I was only suggesting alternative employment for two COMPLETELY incompetent pathologists in Bournemouth. It's way past time for the UK government to step in and tax and regulate cannabis use for adult consumption in the UK along similar market lines to that of alcohol. At least by doing so they would not be derelict in their duty of protecting minors in the UK from black market profiteers - AS THEY CURRENTLY ARE - which is the currently legally sanctioned situation by UK gov by their refusal to legally address this situation concerning cannabis use legalisation. JayelleFarmer
  • Score: -1

3:01am Thu 6 Feb 14

JayelleFarmer says...

legalize wrote:
Your stupidity reaches all the way here to sweden. You cant overdose on cannabis, period!
This makes even swedes laugh.
Sorry for the dude
Thank you for saying so. And welcome to Legalise Cannabis International.

https://www.facebook
.com/freetheherb
[quote][p][bold]legalize[/bold] wrote: Your stupidity reaches all the way here to sweden. You cant overdose on cannabis, period! This makes even swedes laugh. Sorry for the dude[/p][/quote]Thank you for saying so. And welcome to Legalise Cannabis International. https://www.facebook .com/freetheherb JayelleFarmer
  • Score: -2

3:12am Thu 6 Feb 14

JayelleFarmer says...

Dr Martin wrote:
PJ Reynolds wrote:
Statement from CLEAR Cannabis Law Reform.

Source: http://www.clear-uk.


org/insane-outbreak-


of-reefer-madness-at


-bournemouth-coroner


s-court/

According to the NHS, there has never been a case of fatal overdose or of confirmed death due to cannabis.

Now, in the space of a few days, two Bournemouth pathologists have given evidence to the Coroner’s Court of two cases of cannabis overdose leading to death.

Clearly, something very strange is going on and the overwhelming weight of scientific evidence is that the problem is not cannabis but an outbreak of hysteria in Bournemouth. It is utterly absurd that this sleepy seaside town on the south coast of England should suddenly become unique in the world for such events. It is nonsense and the chief executives of the two NHS Trusts involved, Chris Bown and Tony Spotswood, need to get a grip on their pathology departments.

The first case concerned Gemma Moss and the pathologist was Dr Kudair Hussein, employed by the Poole Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. The second case, in which a formal verdict has not yet been returned, concerns Paul Kenyon and the pathologist is Dr. Wessam Al-Utayem, employed by the Royal Bournemouth & Christchurch Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust.

Chris Grayling MP, Lord Chancellor, who is responsible for coroners, also needs to step in and calm the situation. The Bournemouth coroner and pathologists are in danger of becoming an international laughing stock and that is in nobody’s interests.
and what of the vote rigging on this story peter?
Great comments, Peter, and thank you for saying. Unlike a lot of folks, I am a believer in correct comments, and not partisan connections. The UK campaign is F-up as a result of who-likes-who. And TBQH - I'm only interested in results - and pathetic quibbles are the reason why cannabis use is still illegal in the UK.
[quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PJ Reynolds[/bold] wrote: Statement from CLEAR Cannabis Law Reform. Source: http://www.clear-uk. org/insane-outbreak- of-reefer-madness-at -bournemouth-coroner s-court/ According to the NHS, there has never been a case of fatal overdose or of confirmed death due to cannabis. Now, in the space of a few days, two Bournemouth pathologists have given evidence to the Coroner’s Court of two cases of cannabis overdose leading to death. Clearly, something very strange is going on and the overwhelming weight of scientific evidence is that the problem is not cannabis but an outbreak of hysteria in Bournemouth. It is utterly absurd that this sleepy seaside town on the south coast of England should suddenly become unique in the world for such events. It is nonsense and the chief executives of the two NHS Trusts involved, Chris Bown and Tony Spotswood, need to get a grip on their pathology departments. The first case concerned Gemma Moss and the pathologist was Dr Kudair Hussein, employed by the Poole Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. The second case, in which a formal verdict has not yet been returned, concerns Paul Kenyon and the pathologist is Dr. Wessam Al-Utayem, employed by the Royal Bournemouth & Christchurch Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. Chris Grayling MP, Lord Chancellor, who is responsible for coroners, also needs to step in and calm the situation. The Bournemouth coroner and pathologists are in danger of becoming an international laughing stock and that is in nobody’s interests.[/p][/quote]and what of the vote rigging on this story peter?[/p][/quote]Great comments, Peter, and thank you for saying. Unlike a lot of folks, I am a believer in correct comments, and not partisan connections. The UK campaign is F-up as a result of who-likes-who. And TBQH - I'm only interested in results - and pathetic quibbles are the reason why cannabis use is still illegal in the UK. JayelleFarmer
  • Score: -1

3:21am Thu 6 Feb 14

JayelleFarmer says...

ragj195 wrote:
rozmister wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
rozmister wrote:
ragj195 wrote:
rozmister wrote: Whilst the weed may not have killed him due to toxicity surely it is a factor in his death? We don't know the circumstances but perhaps he was too stoned to drive hence the CO2 or perhaps he had mental health problems that were made worse by prolonged weed smoking? Weed may not be toxic according to scientific evidence but it is linked to hundreds of deaths around the world every year as a contributing factor. The comments on here trying to make out it's safer than safe are a bit disturbing when you factor that in.
Yes you're right but millions of people smoke weed so the fatality rate is statistically insignificant. Move on.
In proportion to the amount of journeys carried out in vehicles death in a vehicle is statistically insignificant. That doesn't stop us driving road safety and being aware of the dangers. I'm sure the families of people who die with weed as a contributing factor can't just 'move on' and don't feel their family member is 'statistically insignificant'. Your crass comment shows how focused you are on pushing the cause for weed without acknowledging the risks.
Focused? No, just a realist. I don't even smoke weed but there are a million other things that pose a greater risk to your health than smoking weed. Shall we acknowledge the risks of all of them or is it just weed today because the Echo has told us so?
If the topic is weed then yes we acknowledge the risk rather than saying it's amazing and harmless. The same way you'd say that about cigarettes, alcohol or crossing the road. Weed should be legalised, regulated and taxed but then people should be educated on the danger it poses to their mental health if they're susceptible to mental health issues just like we SHOULD educate them in the same way about alcohol and cigarettes.
Okay so regardless of how small the risk, we should acknowledge the risks? Because you say so? Your posts often make some sense but you're way off on this one. People are saying it's harmless because statistics have proven that it is. Would you be "disturbed" by people discussing how much they like red meat, sweetener, processed wheat, along with the hundreds of other things that are scientifically proven to be harmful to us?

Next time the Bournemouth Marathon takes place should we acknowledge the risks of running because running has been a contributing factor in the deaths some runners in the past? If you want to that's fine but I don't see why you should be telling others to do the same.
"Okay so regardless of how small the risk, we should acknowledge the risks? Because you say so? Your posts often make some sense but you're way off on this one. People are saying it's harmless because statistics have proven that it is."

PERIOD - I would quit right there. Easier to digest. Just sayin'.
[quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ragj195[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]rozmister[/bold] wrote: Whilst the weed may not have killed him due to toxicity surely it is a factor in his death? We don't know the circumstances but perhaps he was too stoned to drive hence the CO2 or perhaps he had mental health problems that were made worse by prolonged weed smoking? Weed may not be toxic according to scientific evidence but it is linked to hundreds of deaths around the world every year as a contributing factor. The comments on here trying to make out it's safer than safe are a bit disturbing when you factor that in.[/p][/quote]Yes you're right but millions of people smoke weed so the fatality rate is statistically insignificant. Move on.[/p][/quote]In proportion to the amount of journeys carried out in vehicles death in a vehicle is statistically insignificant. That doesn't stop us driving road safety and being aware of the dangers. I'm sure the families of people who die with weed as a contributing factor can't just 'move on' and don't feel their family member is 'statistically insignificant'. Your crass comment shows how focused you are on pushing the cause for weed without acknowledging the risks.[/p][/quote]Focused? No, just a realist. I don't even smoke weed but there are a million other things that pose a greater risk to your health than smoking weed. Shall we acknowledge the risks of all of them or is it just weed today because the Echo has told us so?[/p][/quote]If the topic is weed then yes we acknowledge the risk rather than saying it's amazing and harmless. The same way you'd say that about cigarettes, alcohol or crossing the road. Weed should be legalised, regulated and taxed but then people should be educated on the danger it poses to their mental health if they're susceptible to mental health issues just like we SHOULD educate them in the same way about alcohol and cigarettes.[/p][/quote]Okay so regardless of how small the risk, we should acknowledge the risks? Because you say so? Your posts often make some sense but you're way off on this one. People are saying it's harmless because statistics have proven that it is. Would you be "disturbed" by people discussing how much they like red meat, sweetener, processed wheat, along with the hundreds of other things that are scientifically proven to be harmful to us? Next time the Bournemouth Marathon takes place should we acknowledge the risks of running because running has been a contributing factor in the deaths some runners in the past? If you want to that's fine but I don't see why you should be telling others to do the same.[/p][/quote]"Okay so regardless of how small the risk, we should acknowledge the risks? Because you say so? Your posts often make some sense but you're way off on this one. People are saying it's harmless because statistics have proven that it is." PERIOD - I would quit right there. Easier to digest. Just sayin'. JayelleFarmer
  • Score: -1

3:27am Thu 6 Feb 14

JayelleFarmer says...

JayelleFarmer wrote:
Dr Martin wrote:
PJ Reynolds wrote:
Statement from CLEAR Cannabis Law Reform.

Source: http://www.clear-uk.



org/insane-outbreak-



of-reefer-madness-at



-bournemouth-coroner



s-court/

According to the NHS, there has never been a case of fatal overdose or of confirmed death due to cannabis.

Now, in the space of a few days, two Bournemouth pathologists have given evidence to the Coroner’s Court of two cases of cannabis overdose leading to death.

Clearly, something very strange is going on and the overwhelming weight of scientific evidence is that the problem is not cannabis but an outbreak of hysteria in Bournemouth. It is utterly absurd that this sleepy seaside town on the south coast of England should suddenly become unique in the world for such events. It is nonsense and the chief executives of the two NHS Trusts involved, Chris Bown and Tony Spotswood, need to get a grip on their pathology departments.

The first case concerned Gemma Moss and the pathologist was Dr Kudair Hussein, employed by the Poole Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. The second case, in which a formal verdict has not yet been returned, concerns Paul Kenyon and the pathologist is Dr. Wessam Al-Utayem, employed by the Royal Bournemouth & Christchurch Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust.

Chris Grayling MP, Lord Chancellor, who is responsible for coroners, also needs to step in and calm the situation. The Bournemouth coroner and pathologists are in danger of becoming an international laughing stock and that is in nobody’s interests.
and what of the vote rigging on this story peter?
Great comments, Peter, and thank you for saying. Unlike a lot of folks, I am a believer in correct comments, and not partisan connections. The UK campaign is F-up as a result of who-likes-who. And TBQH - I'm only interested in results - and pathetic quibbles are the reason why cannabis use is still illegal in the UK.
Oh, go right ahead and down-vote or up-vote as you like. When you've had a criminal conviction since 1969 as I have- 45 years already - then you might change your attitude on comments not to mention the rest of the millions of people worldwide who have been unjustly criminalized for possession of cannabis.

Time to get a grip here, wouldn't you say???
[quote][p][bold]JayelleFarmer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PJ Reynolds[/bold] wrote: Statement from CLEAR Cannabis Law Reform. Source: http://www.clear-uk. org/insane-outbreak- of-reefer-madness-at -bournemouth-coroner s-court/ According to the NHS, there has never been a case of fatal overdose or of confirmed death due to cannabis. Now, in the space of a few days, two Bournemouth pathologists have given evidence to the Coroner’s Court of two cases of cannabis overdose leading to death. Clearly, something very strange is going on and the overwhelming weight of scientific evidence is that the problem is not cannabis but an outbreak of hysteria in Bournemouth. It is utterly absurd that this sleepy seaside town on the south coast of England should suddenly become unique in the world for such events. It is nonsense and the chief executives of the two NHS Trusts involved, Chris Bown and Tony Spotswood, need to get a grip on their pathology departments. The first case concerned Gemma Moss and the pathologist was Dr Kudair Hussein, employed by the Poole Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. The second case, in which a formal verdict has not yet been returned, concerns Paul Kenyon and the pathologist is Dr. Wessam Al-Utayem, employed by the Royal Bournemouth & Christchurch Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. Chris Grayling MP, Lord Chancellor, who is responsible for coroners, also needs to step in and calm the situation. The Bournemouth coroner and pathologists are in danger of becoming an international laughing stock and that is in nobody’s interests.[/p][/quote]and what of the vote rigging on this story peter?[/p][/quote]Great comments, Peter, and thank you for saying. Unlike a lot of folks, I am a believer in correct comments, and not partisan connections. The UK campaign is F-up as a result of who-likes-who. And TBQH - I'm only interested in results - and pathetic quibbles are the reason why cannabis use is still illegal in the UK.[/p][/quote]Oh, go right ahead and down-vote or up-vote as you like. When you've had a criminal conviction since 1969 as I have- 45 years already - then you might change your attitude on comments not to mention the rest of the millions of people worldwide who have been unjustly criminalized for possession of cannabis. Time to get a grip here, wouldn't you say??? JayelleFarmer
  • Score: 1

3:36am Thu 6 Feb 14

JayelleFarmer says...

JayelleFarmer wrote:
kalebmoledirt wrote:
JayelleFarmer wrote:
"The court heard that Royal Bournemouth Hospital pathologist Dr Al-Utayem carried out a post-mortem and concluded that the cause of death was carbon monoxide poisoning, with a significant condition of cannabis overdose."

Two cases of pathologists stating cannabis overdoses in one week - and both from pathologists at the Royal Bournemouth hospital. The other case being the case of Gemma Moss:

"Pathologist Dr Kudair Hussein told the inquest in Bournemouth there were ‘moderate to heavy’ levels of cannabis-related chemicals in her blood."

This hospital has already got bad press. See article in this same newspaper:

"Dangerous and inadequate" - Care Quality Commission's damning report into Royal Bournemouth Hospital

"The CQC, England’s independent regulator of health and social care has already presented its report to a local quality summit including NHS commissioners, providers and regulators."

The independent regulator of health and social care needs to do an examination of the credentials, expertise and knowledge of the pharmacology of cannabis of all of the pathologists at the RBH.

In the meantime, the two pathologists connected with the Paul Kenyon and Gemma Moss cases should maybe stick with making kebabs. According to the eminent Prof. David Nutt, Chair of the Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs: "Smoking cannabis is not a killer, despite inquest findings."
Racist pseudo intellect .
So if the two pathologists concerned had "English sounding" names and I would have said "stick with making fish and chips" then that would have been OK???

Oh, so was THAT why my original post was deleted? PATHETIC, and then some.

No racism on my part intended - not in any way at all, as anyone who knows me as a campaigner will affirm. I was only suggesting alternative employment for two COMPLETELY incompetent pathologists in Bournemouth.

It's way past time for the UK government to step in and tax and regulate cannabis use for adult consumption in the UK along similar market lines to that of alcohol.

At least by doing so they would not be derelict in their duty of protecting minors in the UK from black market profiteers - AS THEY CURRENTLY ARE - which is the currently legally sanctioned situation by UK gov by their refusal to legally address this situation concerning cannabis use legalisation.
Minus votes for confirming that UK gov is derelict in their duty of protecting minors.

INCREDIBLE!!!

WHAT YOU GOING TO DO FOR YOUR KIDS WHEN THEY GET BUSTED???
[quote][p][bold]JayelleFarmer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]kalebmoledirt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JayelleFarmer[/bold] wrote: "The court heard that Royal Bournemouth Hospital pathologist Dr Al-Utayem carried out a post-mortem and concluded that the cause of death was carbon monoxide poisoning, with a significant condition of cannabis overdose." Two cases of pathologists stating cannabis overdoses in one week - and both from pathologists at the Royal Bournemouth hospital. The other case being the case of Gemma Moss: "Pathologist Dr Kudair Hussein told the inquest in Bournemouth there were ‘moderate to heavy’ levels of cannabis-related chemicals in her blood." This hospital has already got bad press. See article in this same newspaper: "Dangerous and inadequate" - Care Quality Commission's damning report into Royal Bournemouth Hospital "The CQC, England’s independent regulator of health and social care has already presented its report to a local quality summit including NHS commissioners, providers and regulators." The independent regulator of health and social care needs to do an examination of the credentials, expertise and knowledge of the pharmacology of cannabis of all of the pathologists at the RBH. In the meantime, the two pathologists connected with the Paul Kenyon and Gemma Moss cases should maybe stick with making kebabs. According to the eminent Prof. David Nutt, Chair of the Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs: "Smoking cannabis is not a killer, despite inquest findings."[/p][/quote]Racist pseudo intellect .[/p][/quote]So if the two pathologists concerned had "English sounding" names and I would have said "stick with making fish and chips" then that would have been OK??? Oh, so was THAT why my original post was deleted? PATHETIC, and then some. No racism on my part intended - not in any way at all, as anyone who knows me as a campaigner will affirm. I was only suggesting alternative employment for two COMPLETELY incompetent pathologists in Bournemouth. It's way past time for the UK government to step in and tax and regulate cannabis use for adult consumption in the UK along similar market lines to that of alcohol. At least by doing so they would not be derelict in their duty of protecting minors in the UK from black market profiteers - AS THEY CURRENTLY ARE - which is the currently legally sanctioned situation by UK gov by their refusal to legally address this situation concerning cannabis use legalisation.[/p][/quote]Minus votes for confirming that UK gov is derelict in their duty of protecting minors. INCREDIBLE!!! WHAT YOU GOING TO DO FOR YOUR KIDS WHEN THEY GET BUSTED??? JayelleFarmer
  • Score: -5

4:31am Thu 6 Feb 14

Dr Martin says...

JayelleFarmer wrote:
Dr Martin wrote:
PJ Reynolds wrote:
Statement from CLEAR Cannabis Law Reform.

Source: http://www.clear-uk.



org/insane-outbreak-



of-reefer-madness-at



-bournemouth-coroner



s-court/

According to the NHS, there has never been a case of fatal overdose or of confirmed death due to cannabis.

Now, in the space of a few days, two Bournemouth pathologists have given evidence to the Coroner’s Court of two cases of cannabis overdose leading to death.

Clearly, something very strange is going on and the overwhelming weight of scientific evidence is that the problem is not cannabis but an outbreak of hysteria in Bournemouth. It is utterly absurd that this sleepy seaside town on the south coast of England should suddenly become unique in the world for such events. It is nonsense and the chief executives of the two NHS Trusts involved, Chris Bown and Tony Spotswood, need to get a grip on their pathology departments.

The first case concerned Gemma Moss and the pathologist was Dr Kudair Hussein, employed by the Poole Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. The second case, in which a formal verdict has not yet been returned, concerns Paul Kenyon and the pathologist is Dr. Wessam Al-Utayem, employed by the Royal Bournemouth & Christchurch Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust.

Chris Grayling MP, Lord Chancellor, who is responsible for coroners, also needs to step in and calm the situation. The Bournemouth coroner and pathologists are in danger of becoming an international laughing stock and that is in nobody’s interests.
and what of the vote rigging on this story peter?
Great comments, Peter, and thank you for saying. Unlike a lot of folks, I am a believer in correct comments, and not partisan connections. The UK campaign is F-up as a result of who-likes-who. And TBQH - I'm only interested in results - and pathetic quibbles are the reason why cannabis use is still illegal in the UK.
and you are saying that to old spammer Reynolds, have you heard what things he does to fellow pro pot people he doesn't like?
[quote][p][bold]JayelleFarmer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PJ Reynolds[/bold] wrote: Statement from CLEAR Cannabis Law Reform. Source: http://www.clear-uk. org/insane-outbreak- of-reefer-madness-at -bournemouth-coroner s-court/ According to the NHS, there has never been a case of fatal overdose or of confirmed death due to cannabis. Now, in the space of a few days, two Bournemouth pathologists have given evidence to the Coroner’s Court of two cases of cannabis overdose leading to death. Clearly, something very strange is going on and the overwhelming weight of scientific evidence is that the problem is not cannabis but an outbreak of hysteria in Bournemouth. It is utterly absurd that this sleepy seaside town on the south coast of England should suddenly become unique in the world for such events. It is nonsense and the chief executives of the two NHS Trusts involved, Chris Bown and Tony Spotswood, need to get a grip on their pathology departments. The first case concerned Gemma Moss and the pathologist was Dr Kudair Hussein, employed by the Poole Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. The second case, in which a formal verdict has not yet been returned, concerns Paul Kenyon and the pathologist is Dr. Wessam Al-Utayem, employed by the Royal Bournemouth & Christchurch Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. Chris Grayling MP, Lord Chancellor, who is responsible for coroners, also needs to step in and calm the situation. The Bournemouth coroner and pathologists are in danger of becoming an international laughing stock and that is in nobody’s interests.[/p][/quote]and what of the vote rigging on this story peter?[/p][/quote]Great comments, Peter, and thank you for saying. Unlike a lot of folks, I am a believer in correct comments, and not partisan connections. The UK campaign is F-up as a result of who-likes-who. And TBQH - I'm only interested in results - and pathetic quibbles are the reason why cannabis use is still illegal in the UK.[/p][/quote]and you are saying that to old spammer Reynolds, have you heard what things he does to fellow pro pot people he doesn't like? Dr Martin
  • Score: 1

4:34am Thu 6 Feb 14

Dr Martin says...

JayelleFarmer wrote:
JayelleFarmer wrote:
Dr Martin wrote:
PJ Reynolds wrote:
Statement from CLEAR Cannabis Law Reform.

Source: http://www.clear-uk.




org/insane-outbreak-




of-reefer-madness-at




-bournemouth-coroner




s-court/

According to the NHS, there has never been a case of fatal overdose or of confirmed death due to cannabis.

Now, in the space of a few days, two Bournemouth pathologists have given evidence to the Coroner’s Court of two cases of cannabis overdose leading to death.

Clearly, something very strange is going on and the overwhelming weight of scientific evidence is that the problem is not cannabis but an outbreak of hysteria in Bournemouth. It is utterly absurd that this sleepy seaside town on the south coast of England should suddenly become unique in the world for such events. It is nonsense and the chief executives of the two NHS Trusts involved, Chris Bown and Tony Spotswood, need to get a grip on their pathology departments.

The first case concerned Gemma Moss and the pathologist was Dr Kudair Hussein, employed by the Poole Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. The second case, in which a formal verdict has not yet been returned, concerns Paul Kenyon and the pathologist is Dr. Wessam Al-Utayem, employed by the Royal Bournemouth & Christchurch Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust.

Chris Grayling MP, Lord Chancellor, who is responsible for coroners, also needs to step in and calm the situation. The Bournemouth coroner and pathologists are in danger of becoming an international laughing stock and that is in nobody’s interests.
and what of the vote rigging on this story peter?
Great comments, Peter, and thank you for saying. Unlike a lot of folks, I am a believer in correct comments, and not partisan connections. The UK campaign is F-up as a result of who-likes-who. And TBQH - I'm only interested in results - and pathetic quibbles are the reason why cannabis use is still illegal in the UK.
Oh, go right ahead and down-vote or up-vote as you like. When you've had a criminal conviction since 1969 as I have- 45 years already - then you might change your attitude on comments not to mention the rest of the millions of people worldwide who have been unjustly criminalized for possession of cannabis.

Time to get a grip here, wouldn't you say???
If you beak the law you have to pay the consequences
[quote][p][bold]JayelleFarmer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JayelleFarmer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PJ Reynolds[/bold] wrote: Statement from CLEAR Cannabis Law Reform. Source: http://www.clear-uk. org/insane-outbreak- of-reefer-madness-at -bournemouth-coroner s-court/ According to the NHS, there has never been a case of fatal overdose or of confirmed death due to cannabis. Now, in the space of a few days, two Bournemouth pathologists have given evidence to the Coroner’s Court of two cases of cannabis overdose leading to death. Clearly, something very strange is going on and the overwhelming weight of scientific evidence is that the problem is not cannabis but an outbreak of hysteria in Bournemouth. It is utterly absurd that this sleepy seaside town on the south coast of England should suddenly become unique in the world for such events. It is nonsense and the chief executives of the two NHS Trusts involved, Chris Bown and Tony Spotswood, need to get a grip on their pathology departments. The first case concerned Gemma Moss and the pathologist was Dr Kudair Hussein, employed by the Poole Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. The second case, in which a formal verdict has not yet been returned, concerns Paul Kenyon and the pathologist is Dr. Wessam Al-Utayem, employed by the Royal Bournemouth & Christchurch Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. Chris Grayling MP, Lord Chancellor, who is responsible for coroners, also needs to step in and calm the situation. The Bournemouth coroner and pathologists are in danger of becoming an international laughing stock and that is in nobody’s interests.[/p][/quote]and what of the vote rigging on this story peter?[/p][/quote]Great comments, Peter, and thank you for saying. Unlike a lot of folks, I am a believer in correct comments, and not partisan connections. The UK campaign is F-up as a result of who-likes-who. And TBQH - I'm only interested in results - and pathetic quibbles are the reason why cannabis use is still illegal in the UK.[/p][/quote]Oh, go right ahead and down-vote or up-vote as you like. When you've had a criminal conviction since 1969 as I have- 45 years already - then you might change your attitude on comments not to mention the rest of the millions of people worldwide who have been unjustly criminalized for possession of cannabis. Time to get a grip here, wouldn't you say???[/p][/quote]If you beak the law you have to pay the consequences Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

4:45am Thu 6 Feb 14

Dr Martin says...

@ JayelleFarmer

before you get too cosy with petey you might want to read this

http://peter-reynold
s-watch.com/2012/09/
peter-reynolds-lies-
again-as-he-tries-to
-falsify-his-anti-se
mitic-blog/
@ JayelleFarmer before you get too cosy with petey you might want to read this http://peter-reynold s-watch.com/2012/09/ peter-reynolds-lies- again-as-he-tries-to -falsify-his-anti-se mitic-blog/ Dr Martin
  • Score: 5

7:47am Thu 6 Feb 14

BishopThrostwitch says...

If cannabis is relevant in some way to this man's death, then it is highly likely that another contributing factor was that he was in Bournemouth at the time.
Not only that, but I know that more people have lost their lives in Bournemouth than have because of cannabis use.

I think it's about time the truth was told. Bournemouth is harmful to health.
If cannabis is relevant in some way to this man's death, then it is highly likely that another contributing factor was that he was in Bournemouth at the time. Not only that, but I know that more people have lost their lives in Bournemouth than have because of cannabis use. I think it's about time the truth was told. Bournemouth is harmful to health. BishopThrostwitch
  • Score: 5

8:03am Thu 6 Feb 14

profondo asbo says...

JayelleFarmer wrote:
Dr Martin wrote:
PJ Reynolds wrote:
Statement from CLEAR Cannabis Law Reform.

Source: http://www.clear-uk.



org/insane-outbreak-



of-reefer-madness-at



-bournemouth-coroner



s-court/

According to the NHS, there has never been a case of fatal overdose or of confirmed death due to cannabis.

Now, in the space of a few days, two Bournemouth pathologists have given evidence to the Coroner’s Court of two cases of cannabis overdose leading to death.

Clearly, something very strange is going on and the overwhelming weight of scientific evidence is that the problem is not cannabis but an outbreak of hysteria in Bournemouth. It is utterly absurd that this sleepy seaside town on the south coast of England should suddenly become unique in the world for such events. It is nonsense and the chief executives of the two NHS Trusts involved, Chris Bown and Tony Spotswood, need to get a grip on their pathology departments.

The first case concerned Gemma Moss and the pathologist was Dr Kudair Hussein, employed by the Poole Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. The second case, in which a formal verdict has not yet been returned, concerns Paul Kenyon and the pathologist is Dr. Wessam Al-Utayem, employed by the Royal Bournemouth & Christchurch Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust.

Chris Grayling MP, Lord Chancellor, who is responsible for coroners, also needs to step in and calm the situation. The Bournemouth coroner and pathologists are in danger of becoming an international laughing stock and that is in nobody’s interests.
and what of the vote rigging on this story peter?
Great comments, Peter, and thank you for saying. Unlike a lot of folks, I am a believer in correct comments, and not partisan connections. The UK campaign is F-up as a result of who-likes-who. And TBQH - I'm only interested in results - and pathetic quibbles are the reason why cannabis use is still illegal in the UK.
righto cleetus
[quote][p][bold]JayelleFarmer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PJ Reynolds[/bold] wrote: Statement from CLEAR Cannabis Law Reform. Source: http://www.clear-uk. org/insane-outbreak- of-reefer-madness-at -bournemouth-coroner s-court/ According to the NHS, there has never been a case of fatal overdose or of confirmed death due to cannabis. Now, in the space of a few days, two Bournemouth pathologists have given evidence to the Coroner’s Court of two cases of cannabis overdose leading to death. Clearly, something very strange is going on and the overwhelming weight of scientific evidence is that the problem is not cannabis but an outbreak of hysteria in Bournemouth. It is utterly absurd that this sleepy seaside town on the south coast of England should suddenly become unique in the world for such events. It is nonsense and the chief executives of the two NHS Trusts involved, Chris Bown and Tony Spotswood, need to get a grip on their pathology departments. The first case concerned Gemma Moss and the pathologist was Dr Kudair Hussein, employed by the Poole Hospital NHS Foundation Trust. The second case, in which a formal verdict has not yet been returned, concerns Paul Kenyon and the pathologist is Dr. Wessam Al-Utayem, employed by the Royal Bournemouth & Christchurch Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust. Chris Grayling MP, Lord Chancellor, who is responsible for coroners, also needs to step in and calm the situation. The Bournemouth coroner and pathologists are in danger of becoming an international laughing stock and that is in nobody’s interests.[/p][/quote]and what of the vote rigging on this story peter?[/p][/quote]Great comments, Peter, and thank you for saying. Unlike a lot of folks, I am a believer in correct comments, and not partisan connections. The UK campaign is F-up as a result of who-likes-who. And TBQH - I'm only interested in results - and pathetic quibbles are the reason why cannabis use is still illegal in the UK.[/p][/quote]righto cleetus profondo asbo
  • Score: 4

8:05am Thu 6 Feb 14

profondo asbo says...

bournemouth is fast becoming the cannabis capital of the planet. what is it about dull seaside towns?

our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence yeah. high five me joe "loves a bribe" dalais
bournemouth is fast becoming the cannabis capital of the planet. what is it about dull seaside towns? our lives are so hollow and empty we need to escape the mundanity of our own existence yeah. high five me joe "loves a bribe" dalais profondo asbo
  • Score: 6

8:20am Thu 6 Feb 14

Lord Spring says...

That Sherborne resident Walt Raleigh should not have brought that weed back from America, he started this argument
That Sherborne resident Walt Raleigh should not have brought that weed back from America, he started this argument Lord Spring
  • Score: 6

8:55am Thu 6 Feb 14

mickyboy67 says...

Utter nonsense! It is a physical impossibility to die from a cannabis 'overdose' It can not happen. This is just an opportunity for more scaremongering from those in power directed towards the ignorant. They do not what us to use or understand cannabis simply because it upsets the giant pharmaceutical companies and the oil companies that invest millions each year in buying up - politicians! Its all just more corruption and lies.
Utter nonsense! It is a physical impossibility to die from a cannabis 'overdose' It can not happen. This is just an opportunity for more scaremongering from those in power directed towards the ignorant. They do not what us to use or understand cannabis simply because it upsets the giant pharmaceutical companies and the oil companies that invest millions each year in buying up - politicians! Its all just more corruption and lies. mickyboy67
  • Score: 4

9:30am Thu 6 Feb 14

whataboutthat says...

Caution - many comments on the Echo's integrity as a newspaper have been removed from this section - censorship no less. Shame.
Caution - many comments on the Echo's integrity as a newspaper have been removed from this section - censorship no less. Shame. whataboutthat
  • Score: 5

10:12am Thu 6 Feb 14

Sir Beachy Head says...

C.O is what killed him, it's absaloutely lethal. Even at 0.20% volume in air will kill you in less than 2 hours. It doesn't say that he used his car engine to generate the CO. It's hard to do that with any car with a cat made after 1992 as the c.o levels are much harder to get high enough. He may have burnt charcoal within the car. It's a very common suicide method these days but the British press rarely report the method as it'll catch on like wildfire.
The Japanese have been doing it for years. If you type JAPANESE SUICIDE VAN into google you will get an idea of it's effectiveness.
C.O is what killed him, it's absaloutely lethal. Even at 0.20% volume in air will kill you in less than 2 hours. It doesn't say that he used his car engine to generate the CO. It's hard to do that with any car with a cat made after 1992 as the c.o levels are much harder to get high enough. He may have burnt charcoal within the car. It's a very common suicide method these days but the British press rarely report the method as it'll catch on like wildfire. The Japanese have been doing it for years. If you type JAPANESE SUICIDE VAN into google you will get an idea of it's effectiveness. Sir Beachy Head
  • Score: 12

12:25pm Thu 6 Feb 14

thevoiceofreason1 says...

whataboutthat wrote:
Caution - many comments on the Echo's integrity as a newspaper have been removed from this section - censorship no less. Shame.
i agree they remove anything that suggests they may be a sensationalistic publication following others blindly without actually doing any journalism.
i suggested this in a previous post but surprise surprise it was removed.
always a good sign when an organisation cannot take criticism ....NOT
[quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: Caution - many comments on the Echo's integrity as a newspaper have been removed from this section - censorship no less. Shame.[/p][/quote]i agree they remove anything that suggests they may be a sensationalistic publication following others blindly without actually doing any journalism. i suggested this in a previous post but surprise surprise it was removed. always a good sign when an organisation cannot take criticism ....NOT thevoiceofreason1
  • Score: 5

1:22pm Thu 6 Feb 14

profondo asbo says...

thevoiceofreason1 wrote:
whataboutthat wrote:
Caution - many comments on the Echo's integrity as a newspaper have been removed from this section - censorship no less. Shame.
i agree they remove anything that suggests they may be a sensationalistic publication following others blindly without actually doing any journalism.
i suggested this in a previous post but surprise surprise it was removed.
always a good sign when an organisation cannot take criticism ....NOT
they are just reporting the facts. there is no opinion or bias on the story. maybe you can point us to the sensationalism - i got the magnifying glass out as was still unable to find it.

your bias is clear. try putting down the joint and take a reality check (and a bath).
[quote][p][bold]thevoiceofreason1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whataboutthat[/bold] wrote: Caution - many comments on the Echo's integrity as a newspaper have been removed from this section - censorship no less. Shame.[/p][/quote]i agree they remove anything that suggests they may be a sensationalistic publication following others blindly without actually doing any journalism. i suggested this in a previous post but surprise surprise it was removed. always a good sign when an organisation cannot take criticism ....NOT[/p][/quote]they are just reporting the facts. there is no opinion or bias on the story. maybe you can point us to the sensationalism - i got the magnifying glass out as was still unable to find it. your bias is clear. try putting down the joint and take a reality check (and a bath). profondo asbo
  • Score: 1

1:22pm Thu 6 Feb 14

3Dhendo says...

These things are always tragic without fools jumping on their bandwagons. I mean that as much for stoners as I do for anti-stoners.

Carbon monoxide poisoning was cause of death, and no part of C02 involves weed. As for Ms. Moss, the weed was nothing to do with it either.
Was her death recorded as cannabis poisoning? No, because that's impossible.
Was it recorded as cardiac arrest? No, because there was no evidence.
So what was it recorded as? Cannabis abuse, even though there was NO evidence for this.

“I cannot begin to understand the pathologist’s certainty that cannabis killed Gemma Moss..."

Professor David Nutt - www.drugscience.org,
uk/blog/2014/01/31/d
eath-by-cannabis
These things are always tragic without fools jumping on their bandwagons. I mean that as much for stoners as I do for anti-stoners. Carbon monoxide poisoning was cause of death, and no part of C02 involves weed. As for Ms. Moss, the weed was nothing to do with it either. Was her death recorded as cannabis poisoning? No, because that's impossible. Was it recorded as cardiac arrest? No, because there was no evidence. So what was it recorded as? Cannabis abuse, even though there was NO evidence for this. “I cannot begin to understand the pathologist’s certainty that cannabis killed Gemma Moss..." Professor David Nutt - www.drugscience.org, uk/blog/2014/01/31/d eath-by-cannabis 3Dhendo
  • Score: 1

1:24pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Antiprohibition says...

It is not possible to "overdose" Cannabis.
A Human would have to smoke 80-100 Pound of Cannabis to Overdose , even experienced Potheads smoke less than 10gramm / day - it is just not possible.
And a carbon monoxide poisoning has nothing to do with smoking Cannabis. The Death of Gemma Moss had also nothing to do with Cannabis , it was a heart Attack but it was not caused by Cannabis - Stress,Antidepressan
ts,Sleepless nights - that were the reasons for her Heart attack , not Cannabis.
Just don´t believe this anti Cannabis Propaganda - Cannabis is Safe and the most important Plant on Earth.
And it is the most important medicine that has ever been discovered
It is not possible to "overdose" Cannabis. A Human would have to smoke 80-100 Pound of Cannabis to Overdose , even experienced Potheads smoke less than 10gramm / day - it is just not possible. And a carbon monoxide poisoning has nothing to do with smoking Cannabis. The Death of Gemma Moss had also nothing to do with Cannabis , it was a heart Attack but it was not caused by Cannabis - Stress,Antidepressan ts,Sleepless nights - that were the reasons for her Heart attack , not Cannabis. Just don´t believe this anti Cannabis Propaganda - Cannabis is Safe and the most important Plant on Earth. And it is the most important medicine that has ever been discovered Antiprohibition
  • Score: -1

1:39pm Thu 6 Feb 14

profondo asbo says...

Antiprohibition wrote:
It is not possible to "overdose" Cannabis.
A Human would have to smoke 80-100 Pound of Cannabis to Overdose , even experienced Potheads smoke less than 10gramm / day - it is just not possible.
And a carbon monoxide poisoning has nothing to do with smoking Cannabis. The Death of Gemma Moss had also nothing to do with Cannabis , it was a heart Attack but it was not caused by Cannabis - Stress,Antidepressan

ts,Sleepless nights - that were the reasons for her Heart attack , not Cannabis.
Just don´t believe this anti Cannabis Propaganda - Cannabis is Safe and the most important Plant on Earth.
And it is the most important medicine that has ever been discovered
that most important plant has fried your brain man
[quote][p][bold]Antiprohibition[/bold] wrote: It is not possible to "overdose" Cannabis. A Human would have to smoke 80-100 Pound of Cannabis to Overdose , even experienced Potheads smoke less than 10gramm / day - it is just not possible. And a carbon monoxide poisoning has nothing to do with smoking Cannabis. The Death of Gemma Moss had also nothing to do with Cannabis , it was a heart Attack but it was not caused by Cannabis - Stress,Antidepressan ts,Sleepless nights - that were the reasons for her Heart attack , not Cannabis. Just don´t believe this anti Cannabis Propaganda - Cannabis is Safe and the most important Plant on Earth. And it is the most important medicine that has ever been discovered[/p][/quote]that most important plant has fried your brain man profondo asbo
  • Score: 1

1:45pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Antiprohibition says...

Our German News like to use Anti-Cannabis Propaganda from other Countrys ... but the Death of Emma Moss and this Story here are too unbelievable even for German newscasts. No editor would dare to reprint something like this :D
Our German News like to use Anti-Cannabis Propaganda from other Countrys ... but the Death of Emma Moss and this Story here are too unbelievable even for German newscasts. No editor would dare to reprint something like this :D Antiprohibition
  • Score: -1

1:50pm Thu 6 Feb 14

profondo asbo says...

3Dhendo wrote:
These things are always tragic without fools jumping on their bandwagons. I mean that as much for stoners as I do for anti-stoners.

Carbon monoxide poisoning was cause of death, and no part of C02 involves weed. As for Ms. Moss, the weed was nothing to do with it either.
Was her death recorded as cannabis poisoning? No, because that's impossible.
Was it recorded as cardiac arrest? No, because there was no evidence.
So what was it recorded as? Cannabis abuse, even though there was NO evidence for this.

“I cannot begin to understand the pathologist’s certainty that cannabis killed Gemma Moss..."

Professor David Nutt - www.drugscience.org,

uk/blog/2014/01/31/d

eath-by-cannabis
only stoners give david nutt time of day. personally i prefer andrex to his low quality toilet paper
[quote][p][bold]3Dhendo[/bold] wrote: These things are always tragic without fools jumping on their bandwagons. I mean that as much for stoners as I do for anti-stoners. Carbon monoxide poisoning was cause of death, and no part of C02 involves weed. As for Ms. Moss, the weed was nothing to do with it either. Was her death recorded as cannabis poisoning? No, because that's impossible. Was it recorded as cardiac arrest? No, because there was no evidence. So what was it recorded as? Cannabis abuse, even though there was NO evidence for this. “I cannot begin to understand the pathologist’s certainty that cannabis killed Gemma Moss..." Professor David Nutt - www.drugscience.org, uk/blog/2014/01/31/d eath-by-cannabis[/p][/quote]only stoners give david nutt time of day. personally i prefer andrex to his low quality toilet paper profondo asbo
  • Score: 1

2:10pm Thu 6 Feb 14

profondo asbo says...

Antiprohibition wrote:
Our German News like to use Anti-Cannabis Propaganda from other Countrys ... but the Death of Emma Moss and this Story here are too unbelievable even for German newscasts. No editor would dare to reprint something like this :D
the pro dope propaganda on display in this thread would have goebbels doing triple pike with tuck in his grave.
[quote][p][bold]Antiprohibition[/bold] wrote: Our German News like to use Anti-Cannabis Propaganda from other Countrys ... but the Death of Emma Moss and this Story here are too unbelievable even for German newscasts. No editor would dare to reprint something like this :D[/p][/quote]the pro dope propaganda on display in this thread would have goebbels doing triple pike with tuck in his grave. profondo asbo
  • Score: 1

2:18pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Antiprohibition says...

profondo asbo wrote:
Antiprohibition wrote:
Our German News like to use Anti-Cannabis Propaganda from other Countrys ... but the Death of Emma Moss and this Story here are too unbelievable even for German newscasts. No editor would dare to reprint something like this :D
the pro dope propaganda on display in this thread would have goebbels doing triple pike with tuck in his grave.
Really? The Whole Prohibition is a facist Nazi thing - everyone in favor of Prohibition can call himself a Nazi facist. The Nazis were the first who made Cannabis illegal in Germany.
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Antiprohibition[/bold] wrote: Our German News like to use Anti-Cannabis Propaganda from other Countrys ... but the Death of Emma Moss and this Story here are too unbelievable even for German newscasts. No editor would dare to reprint something like this :D[/p][/quote]the pro dope propaganda on display in this thread would have goebbels doing triple pike with tuck in his grave.[/p][/quote]Really? The Whole Prohibition is a facist Nazi thing - everyone in favor of Prohibition can call himself a Nazi facist. The Nazis were the first who made Cannabis illegal in Germany. Antiprohibition
  • Score: -1

2:32pm Thu 6 Feb 14

profondo asbo says...

Antiprohibition wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
Antiprohibition wrote:
Our German News like to use Anti-Cannabis Propaganda from other Countrys ... but the Death of Emma Moss and this Story here are too unbelievable even for German newscasts. No editor would dare to reprint something like this :D
the pro dope propaganda on display in this thread would have goebbels doing triple pike with tuck in his grave.
Really? The Whole Prohibition is a facist Nazi thing - everyone in favor of Prohibition can call himself a Nazi facist. The Nazis were the first who made Cannabis illegal in Germany.
you misunderstand. i am saying goebbels would be spinning in his grave if he were to witness the propaganda of the pro cannabis lobby.
[quote][p][bold]Antiprohibition[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Antiprohibition[/bold] wrote: Our German News like to use Anti-Cannabis Propaganda from other Countrys ... but the Death of Emma Moss and this Story here are too unbelievable even for German newscasts. No editor would dare to reprint something like this :D[/p][/quote]the pro dope propaganda on display in this thread would have goebbels doing triple pike with tuck in his grave.[/p][/quote]Really? The Whole Prohibition is a facist Nazi thing - everyone in favor of Prohibition can call himself a Nazi facist. The Nazis were the first who made Cannabis illegal in Germany.[/p][/quote]you misunderstand. i am saying goebbels would be spinning in his grave if he were to witness the propaganda of the pro cannabis lobby. profondo asbo
  • Score: 1

3:47pm Thu 6 Feb 14

pembury53 says...

profondo asbo wrote:
3Dhendo wrote: These things are always tragic without fools jumping on their bandwagons. I mean that as much for stoners as I do for anti-stoners. Carbon monoxide poisoning was cause of death, and no part of C02 involves weed. As for Ms. Moss, the weed was nothing to do with it either. Was her death recorded as cannabis poisoning? No, because that's impossible. Was it recorded as cardiac arrest? No, because there was no evidence. So what was it recorded as? Cannabis abuse, even though there was NO evidence for this. “I cannot begin to understand the pathologist’s certainty that cannabis killed Gemma Moss..." Professor David Nutt - www.drugscience.org, uk/blog/2014/01/31/d eath-by-cannabis
only stoners give david nutt time of day. personally i prefer andrex to his low quality toilet paper
but of course if david nutt and the others had concluded what the government had wanted to hear, they and people like you would be trotting him out as an expert witness time and time again.....
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]3Dhendo[/bold] wrote: These things are always tragic without fools jumping on their bandwagons. I mean that as much for stoners as I do for anti-stoners. Carbon monoxide poisoning was cause of death, and no part of C02 involves weed. As for Ms. Moss, the weed was nothing to do with it either. Was her death recorded as cannabis poisoning? No, because that's impossible. Was it recorded as cardiac arrest? No, because there was no evidence. So what was it recorded as? Cannabis abuse, even though there was NO evidence for this. “I cannot begin to understand the pathologist’s certainty that cannabis killed Gemma Moss..." Professor David Nutt - www.drugscience.org, uk/blog/2014/01/31/d eath-by-cannabis[/p][/quote]only stoners give david nutt time of day. personally i prefer andrex to his low quality toilet paper[/p][/quote]but of course if david nutt and the others had concluded what the government had wanted to hear, they and people like you would be trotting him out as an expert witness time and time again..... pembury53
  • Score: 0

3:57pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Dr Martin says...

The current head of ACMD Les Iversen's position in regards to cannabis isn't too far away from David Nutt's own view, but at least he (Iversen) remembers to engage the brain before engaging the mouth
The current head of ACMD Les Iversen's position in regards to cannabis isn't too far away from David Nutt's own view, but at least he (Iversen) remembers to engage the brain before engaging the mouth Dr Martin
  • Score: 1

4:21pm Thu 6 Feb 14

profondo asbo says...

pembury53 wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
3Dhendo wrote: These things are always tragic without fools jumping on their bandwagons. I mean that as much for stoners as I do for anti-stoners. Carbon monoxide poisoning was cause of death, and no part of C02 involves weed. As for Ms. Moss, the weed was nothing to do with it either. Was her death recorded as cannabis poisoning? No, because that's impossible. Was it recorded as cardiac arrest? No, because there was no evidence. So what was it recorded as? Cannabis abuse, even though there was NO evidence for this. “I cannot begin to understand the pathologist’s certainty that cannabis killed Gemma Moss..." Professor David Nutt - www.drugscience.org, uk/blog/2014/01/31/d eath-by-cannabis
only stoners give david nutt time of day. personally i prefer andrex to his low quality toilet paper
but of course if david nutt and the others had concluded what the government had wanted to hear, they and people like you would be trotting him out as an expert witness time and time again.....
welcome to the bournemouth stoner circle jerk.

the bog roll has been banished to his rightful place in obscurity. is there a bigger loser...? (rhetorical)

btw can i borrow your king of green loyalty card? got to pick up some hydroponic kit for my tomato seedlings...
[quote][p][bold]pembury53[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]3Dhendo[/bold] wrote: These things are always tragic without fools jumping on their bandwagons. I mean that as much for stoners as I do for anti-stoners. Carbon monoxide poisoning was cause of death, and no part of C02 involves weed. As for Ms. Moss, the weed was nothing to do with it either. Was her death recorded as cannabis poisoning? No, because that's impossible. Was it recorded as cardiac arrest? No, because there was no evidence. So what was it recorded as? Cannabis abuse, even though there was NO evidence for this. “I cannot begin to understand the pathologist’s certainty that cannabis killed Gemma Moss..." Professor David Nutt - www.drugscience.org, uk/blog/2014/01/31/d eath-by-cannabis[/p][/quote]only stoners give david nutt time of day. personally i prefer andrex to his low quality toilet paper[/p][/quote]but of course if david nutt and the others had concluded what the government had wanted to hear, they and people like you would be trotting him out as an expert witness time and time again.....[/p][/quote]welcome to the bournemouth stoner circle jerk. the bog roll has been banished to his rightful place in obscurity. is there a bigger loser...? (rhetorical) btw can i borrow your king of green loyalty card? got to pick up some hydroponic kit for my tomato seedlings... profondo asbo
  • Score: 1

4:23pm Thu 6 Feb 14

mr.taxpayer says...

Shocked at how rude and opinionated some people are about cannabis users.

We're not all lazy, drug addicts you know, I run my own successful company employing 5 members of staff and have done for years. No criminal record and never been in trouble.

Just because you dont agree with something, doesn't give you the right to critiscise people who think or act differently.

I personally don't like alcohol, but I dont call people who visit pubs alcoholics and scum.

It's pathetic to hear all these older people with their views from the 1950's spout on about rubbish like this and other Daily mail sensationalist headlines about cannabis.

Fact is, it doesn't kill. Just because some unfortunate people have had it in their blood stream doesn't mean it killed them.
Shocked at how rude and opinionated some people are about cannabis users. We're not all lazy, drug addicts you know, I run my own successful company employing 5 members of staff and have done for years. No criminal record and never been in trouble. Just because you dont agree with something, doesn't give you the right to critiscise people who think or act differently. I personally don't like alcohol, but I dont call people who visit pubs alcoholics and scum. It's pathetic to hear all these older people with their views from the 1950's spout on about rubbish like this and other Daily mail sensationalist headlines about cannabis. Fact is, it doesn't kill. Just because some unfortunate people have had it in their blood stream doesn't mean it killed them. mr.taxpayer
  • Score: -1

4:28pm Thu 6 Feb 14

Dr Martin says...

Anyone who advocates smoking an illegal substance on a public forum is fair game is far as I am concerned
Anyone who advocates smoking an illegal substance on a public forum is fair game is far as I am concerned Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

6:48pm Thu 6 Feb 14

nickynoodah says...

I have been in gaol loads of times
I didn't like it but its not all that bad you know
I have been in gaol loads of times I didn't like it but its not all that bad you know nickynoodah
  • Score: 1

8:25pm Thu 6 Feb 14

CharlyR says...

You would have to consume 1500 lbs within 15 minutes to die of an overdose of Cannabis. This is not physically possible.
In fact, it has neuroprotective properties, and they are investigating it as a cure for cancer and epilepsy right now.
You would have to consume 1500 lbs within 15 minutes to die of an overdose of Cannabis. This is not physically possible. In fact, it has neuroprotective properties, and they are investigating it as a cure for cancer and epilepsy right now. CharlyR
  • Score: 1

8:31pm Thu 6 Feb 14

CharlyR says...

speedy231278 wrote:
LucaDudak wrote:
Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days.

Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.
So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something. This person passed out, then was suffocated by something. If he'd been conscious, he may have noticed the side effects of the carbon monoxide before it was too late.

I don't think having the odd joint is really a significant issue, however in some cases it can lead to using other substances, which is why it is banned. Like alcohol, some people are weak willed and don't know when to stop.
Actually they are using the term 'overdose' to make it seem as if he DIED of an overdose. A human being would have to consume 1500 lbs in 15 minutes to die of an overdose of Cannabis. So, by your definition, if someone was asleep in their bed when the house caught fire and they died of smoke inhalation from the fire....was sleeping a contributory cause. Or was it an overdose of sleeping? Get real. This is sloppy sensationalism reporting.....solely for the sake of headlines. Everyone will read it because it is UNBELIEVABLE! Why, because it is simply untrue.
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LucaDudak[/bold] wrote: Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days. Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.[/p][/quote]So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something. This person passed out, then was suffocated by something. If he'd been conscious, he may have noticed the side effects of the carbon monoxide before it was too late. I don't think having the odd joint is really a significant issue, however in some cases it can lead to using other substances, which is why it is banned. Like alcohol, some people are weak willed and don't know when to stop.[/p][/quote]Actually they are using the term 'overdose' to make it seem as if he DIED of an overdose. A human being would have to consume 1500 lbs in 15 minutes to die of an overdose of Cannabis. So, by your definition, if someone was asleep in their bed when the house caught fire and they died of smoke inhalation from the fire....was sleeping a contributory cause. Or was it an overdose of sleeping? Get real. This is sloppy sensationalism reporting.....solely for the sake of headlines. Everyone will read it because it is UNBELIEVABLE! Why, because it is simply untrue. CharlyR
  • Score: 1

8:57pm Thu 6 Feb 14

profondo asbo says...

CharlyR wrote:
speedy231278 wrote:
LucaDudak wrote:
Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days.

Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.
So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something. This person passed out, then was suffocated by something. If he'd been conscious, he may have noticed the side effects of the carbon monoxide before it was too late.

I don't think having the odd joint is really a significant issue, however in some cases it can lead to using other substances, which is why it is banned. Like alcohol, some people are weak willed and don't know when to stop.
Actually they are using the term 'overdose' to make it seem as if he DIED of an overdose. A human being would have to consume 1500 lbs in 15 minutes to die of an overdose of Cannabis. So, by your definition, if someone was asleep in their bed when the house caught fire and they died of smoke inhalation from the fire....was sleeping a contributory cause. Or was it an overdose of sleeping? Get real. This is sloppy sensationalism reporting.....solely for the sake of headlines. Everyone will read it because it is UNBELIEVABLE! Why, because it is simply untrue.
again, where is the sensationalism? they are reporting the facts. try again reading the article instead this time without the fog of cannabis smoke in front of the screen.
[quote][p][bold]CharlyR[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LucaDudak[/bold] wrote: Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days. Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.[/p][/quote]So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something. This person passed out, then was suffocated by something. If he'd been conscious, he may have noticed the side effects of the carbon monoxide before it was too late. I don't think having the odd joint is really a significant issue, however in some cases it can lead to using other substances, which is why it is banned. Like alcohol, some people are weak willed and don't know when to stop.[/p][/quote]Actually they are using the term 'overdose' to make it seem as if he DIED of an overdose. A human being would have to consume 1500 lbs in 15 minutes to die of an overdose of Cannabis. So, by your definition, if someone was asleep in their bed when the house caught fire and they died of smoke inhalation from the fire....was sleeping a contributory cause. Or was it an overdose of sleeping? Get real. This is sloppy sensationalism reporting.....solely for the sake of headlines. Everyone will read it because it is UNBELIEVABLE! Why, because it is simply untrue.[/p][/quote]again, where is the sensationalism? they are reporting the facts. try again reading the article instead this time without the fog of cannabis smoke in front of the screen. profondo asbo
  • Score: 2

11:14am Fri 7 Feb 14

nickynoodah says...

I was jailed for less
and I never left my house
in the nick for over a year I was you know
I was jailed for less and I never left my house in the nick for over a year I was you know nickynoodah
  • Score: 1

11:43am Fri 7 Feb 14

Ileonard says...

The loss of this man should over shadow the pathetic media war with cannabis and the headline itself is an insult to his memory. instead of mourning the loss of a man who died in unfortunate events you as a journalist have instead decided to use him as a tool in your own little battle to give cannabis a bad name.

I am not a "pot-head" and im not an idiot either, Dr Al-Utayem is one of the many misinformed and dangerously ignorant doctors who know nothing about cannabis yet claim that a person can "overdose" off of minimal amounts of the substance

Cannabis is an incredibly positive substance for a multitude of people suffering medical conditions that modern science is yet to find a treatment for, its not a wonder drug but it provides a substancial impact for people suffering acute pain, epilepsy, degenerative diseases and many more conditions of which the use of cannabis would improve their quality of life substancially.

The misinformation supplied by this ill informed and naiive newpaper as well as the idiot doctors who have read one article on cannabis and assume they know everything about it are perteptuating a myth that is harmful to society and even more so harmful to those who have to risk meeting with dealers and potentially buying contaminated cannabis or cannabis with very low levels of cbd the cannabanoid responsible for preventing an affect on the individuals psychological well-being.

I know there are dangers to cannabis, for pregnant women, for children and for adolecents going through puberty but the medical application of cannabis would not only help thousands of people but improve the british economy to no end, providing hemp products which are anything from construction materials to electronic device cases, paper and oil.

I am geuinely disappointed with the daily echo for being at the forefront of ignorance in the current global reassessment of cannabis in its medical applications
The loss of this man should over shadow the pathetic media war with cannabis and the headline itself is an insult to his memory. instead of mourning the loss of a man who died in unfortunate events you as a journalist have instead decided to use him as a tool in your own little battle to give cannabis a bad name. I am not a "pot-head" and im not an idiot either, Dr Al-Utayem is one of the many misinformed and dangerously ignorant doctors who know nothing about cannabis yet claim that a person can "overdose" off of minimal amounts of the substance Cannabis is an incredibly positive substance for a multitude of people suffering medical conditions that modern science is yet to find a treatment for, its not a wonder drug but it provides a substancial impact for people suffering acute pain, epilepsy, degenerative diseases and many more conditions of which the use of cannabis would improve their quality of life substancially. The misinformation supplied by this ill informed and naiive newpaper as well as the idiot doctors who have read one article on cannabis and assume they know everything about it are perteptuating a myth that is harmful to society and even more so harmful to those who have to risk meeting with dealers and potentially buying contaminated cannabis or cannabis with very low levels of cbd the cannabanoid responsible for preventing an affect on the individuals psychological well-being. I know there are dangers to cannabis, for pregnant women, for children and for adolecents going through puberty but the medical application of cannabis would not only help thousands of people but improve the british economy to no end, providing hemp products which are anything from construction materials to electronic device cases, paper and oil. I am geuinely disappointed with the daily echo for being at the forefront of ignorance in the current global reassessment of cannabis in its medical applications Ileonard
  • Score: -1

12:30pm Fri 7 Feb 14

stevobath says...

speedy231278 wrote:
LucaDudak wrote:
Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days.

Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.
So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something. This person passed out, then was suffocated by something. If he'd been conscious, he may have noticed the side effects of the carbon monoxide before it was too late.

I don't think having the odd joint is really a significant issue, however in some cases it can lead to using other substances, which is why it is banned. Like alcohol, some people are weak willed and don't know when to stop.
Er, the side effect of carbon monoxide is???....PASSING out, then dying of carbon monoxide poisoning.
You pass out because it doesn't smell etc so you don't generally 'notice', before its too late as it can happen so fast.

I can't believe the stupidity of some people...
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LucaDudak[/bold] wrote: Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days. Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.[/p][/quote]So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something. This person passed out, then was suffocated by something. If he'd been conscious, he may have noticed the side effects of the carbon monoxide before it was too late. I don't think having the odd joint is really a significant issue, however in some cases it can lead to using other substances, which is why it is banned. Like alcohol, some people are weak willed and don't know when to stop.[/p][/quote]Er, the side effect of carbon monoxide is???....PASSING out, then dying of carbon monoxide poisoning. You pass out because it doesn't smell etc so you don't generally 'notice', before its too late as it can happen so fast. I can't believe the stupidity of some people... stevobath
  • Score: -1

12:42pm Fri 7 Feb 14

omatar says...

speedy231278 wrote:
LucaDudak wrote: Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days. Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.
So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something. This person passed out, then was suffocated by something. If he'd been conscious, he may have noticed the side effects of the carbon monoxide before it was too late. I don't think having the odd joint is really a significant issue, however in some cases it can lead to using other substances, which is why it is banned. Like alcohol, some people are weak willed and don't know when to stop.
You cannot overdose on weed. simple as that. falling asleep is a different matter altogether. As for weed being a "gateway drug," if it was legalised then you would be able to buy it from a shop and not have to buy off a "dealer" who inevitably has other substances for sale. Legalised cannabis shops would not (i assume) have a stash of crack cocaine in the store
[quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LucaDudak[/bold] wrote: Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days. Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.[/p][/quote]So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something. This person passed out, then was suffocated by something. If he'd been conscious, he may have noticed the side effects of the carbon monoxide before it was too late. I don't think having the odd joint is really a significant issue, however in some cases it can lead to using other substances, which is why it is banned. Like alcohol, some people are weak willed and don't know when to stop.[/p][/quote]You cannot overdose on weed. simple as that. falling asleep is a different matter altogether. As for weed being a "gateway drug," if it was legalised then you would be able to buy it from a shop and not have to buy off a "dealer" who inevitably has other substances for sale. Legalised cannabis shops would not (i assume) have a stash of crack cocaine in the store omatar
  • Score: -1

12:42pm Fri 7 Feb 14

omatar says...

omatar wrote:
speedy231278 wrote:
LucaDudak wrote: Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days. Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.
So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something. This person passed out, then was suffocated by something. If he'd been conscious, he may have noticed the side effects of the carbon monoxide before it was too late. I don't think having the odd joint is really a significant issue, however in some cases it can lead to using other substances, which is why it is banned. Like alcohol, some people are weak willed and don't know when to stop.
You cannot overdose on weed. simple as that. falling asleep is a different matter altogether. As for weed being a "gateway drug," if it was legalised then you would be able to buy it from a shop and not have to buy off a "dealer" who inevitably has other substances for sale. Legalised cannabis shops would not (i assume) have a stash of crack cocaine in the store
Therefore weed is only a gateway drug by virture of the fact it is illegal!!
[quote][p][bold]omatar[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LucaDudak[/bold] wrote: Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days. Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.[/p][/quote]So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something. This person passed out, then was suffocated by something. If he'd been conscious, he may have noticed the side effects of the carbon monoxide before it was too late. I don't think having the odd joint is really a significant issue, however in some cases it can lead to using other substances, which is why it is banned. Like alcohol, some people are weak willed and don't know when to stop.[/p][/quote]You cannot overdose on weed. simple as that. falling asleep is a different matter altogether. As for weed being a "gateway drug," if it was legalised then you would be able to buy it from a shop and not have to buy off a "dealer" who inevitably has other substances for sale. Legalised cannabis shops would not (i assume) have a stash of crack cocaine in the store[/p][/quote]Therefore weed is only a gateway drug by virture of the fact it is illegal!! omatar
  • Score: -1

7:15pm Fri 7 Feb 14

keith milton says...

im finished with with masonic rag,from a town run by criminal corrupt freemasons,

from a country run by freemasonic paedo's,warmongers,l
iars,thieves.

better wake up fast sheeple.
im finished with with masonic rag,from a town run by criminal corrupt freemasons, from a country run by freemasonic paedo's,warmongers,l iars,thieves. better wake up fast sheeple. keith milton
  • Score: -2

7:28pm Fri 7 Feb 14

stevobath says...

Are all the 'Anti Brigade' working for DW PHARMA, as well as reading the Daily Fail & refusing to actually look into the original dodgy political reasons it was banned in 1928?
Perhaps they've all watched that scary & 'realistic film' Reefer Madness?
Are all the 'Anti Brigade' working for DW PHARMA, as well as reading the Daily Fail & refusing to actually look into the original dodgy political reasons it was banned in 1928? Perhaps they've all watched that scary & 'realistic film' Reefer Madness? stevobath
  • Score: -2

7:43am Sat 8 Feb 14

Dr Martin says...

I thought it was GW pharmaceutical?, why do dope dependents think 'Reefer Madness' is relevant to the harms of cannabis in 2014?
I thought it was GW pharmaceutical?, why do dope dependents think 'Reefer Madness' is relevant to the harms of cannabis in 2014? Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

8:53am Sun 9 Feb 14

Dr Martin says...

Pro Pot peeps are not that concerned about putting money into the hands of criminals
Pro Pot peeps are not that concerned about putting money into the hands of criminals Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

1:31pm Sun 9 Feb 14

stevobath says...

Dr Martin wrote:
I thought it was GW pharmaceutical?, why do dope dependents think 'Reefer Madness' is relevant to the harms of cannabis in 2014?
I haven't smoked dope for years so I don't think you should be accusing anyone of 'dependency' unless you have some kind of proof?
[quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: I thought it was GW pharmaceutical?, why do dope dependents think 'Reefer Madness' is relevant to the harms of cannabis in 2014?[/p][/quote]I haven't smoked dope for years so I don't think you should be accusing anyone of 'dependency' unless you have some kind of proof? stevobath
  • Score: -1

7:20pm Sun 9 Feb 14

profondo asbo says...

http://www.drugabuse
.gov/publications/ma
rijuana-abuse/mariju
ana-addictive

dope dependency 25-50% amongst daily users
http://www.drugabuse .gov/publications/ma rijuana-abuse/mariju ana-addictive dope dependency 25-50% amongst daily users profondo asbo
  • Score: 1

8:40am Mon 10 Feb 14

Dr Martin says...

stevobath wrote:
Dr Martin wrote:
I thought it was GW pharmaceutical?, why do dope dependents think 'Reefer Madness' is relevant to the harms of cannabis in 2014?
I haven't smoked dope for years so I don't think you should be accusing anyone of 'dependency' unless you have some kind of proof?
I naturally assume all pro pot posters on here are dope dependent either they acknowledge their dependency or they are in denial, filthy dirty habit that it is

Glad you saw sense and gave it up
[quote][p][bold]stevobath[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: I thought it was GW pharmaceutical?, why do dope dependents think 'Reefer Madness' is relevant to the harms of cannabis in 2014?[/p][/quote]I haven't smoked dope for years so I don't think you should be accusing anyone of 'dependency' unless you have some kind of proof?[/p][/quote]I naturally assume all pro pot posters on here are dope dependent either they acknowledge their dependency or they are in denial, filthy dirty habit that it is Glad you saw sense and gave it up Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

2:14pm Mon 10 Feb 14

stevobath says...

Please go pontificate to someone else & stop with your' assumptions.

I'm one of those 'Crazy Liberal Loony Lefties' who believe in LEGALISING all drugs, as I can see that the current 'War On Drugs' & the whole system & laws regarding drugs is & are a total failure, just as 'Prohibition' in USA was, handing the wide scale distribution to criminals, thus causing serious large scale crime gangs to form.
Just cause something is illegal, doesn't make it 'right or moral' to keep it illegal. Try looking back into the reasons it was made illegal in the first place. It was more a politically motivated act rather than anything else.

It's ludicrous that alcohol is sold in shops, a poison that causes misery for those addicted to it & their innocent families. Far filthier & insidious than pot, yet perfectly acceptable by most of the population.

I'm sure the Worlds medical experts will be very interested in the findings related to these two deaths.

Something smells wrong & it's not pot fumes?
Please go pontificate to someone else & stop with your' assumptions. I'm one of those 'Crazy Liberal Loony Lefties' who believe in LEGALISING all drugs, as I can see that the current 'War On Drugs' & the whole system & laws regarding drugs is & are a total failure, just as 'Prohibition' in USA was, handing the wide scale distribution to criminals, thus causing serious large scale crime gangs to form. Just cause something is illegal, doesn't make it 'right or moral' to keep it illegal. Try looking back into the reasons it was made illegal in the first place. It was more a politically motivated act rather than anything else. It's ludicrous that alcohol is sold in shops, a poison that causes misery for those addicted to it & their innocent families. Far filthier & insidious than pot, yet perfectly acceptable by most of the population. I'm sure the Worlds medical experts will be very interested in the findings related to these two deaths. Something smells wrong & it's not pot fumes? stevobath
  • Score: -2

6:32pm Mon 10 Feb 14

scrumpyjack says...

profondo asbo wrote:
CharlyR wrote:
speedy231278 wrote:
LucaDudak wrote:
Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days.

Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.
So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something. This person passed out, then was suffocated by something. If he'd been conscious, he may have noticed the side effects of the carbon monoxide before it was too late.

I don't think having the odd joint is really a significant issue, however in some cases it can lead to using other substances, which is why it is banned. Like alcohol, some people are weak willed and don't know when to stop.
Actually they are using the term 'overdose' to make it seem as if he DIED of an overdose. A human being would have to consume 1500 lbs in 15 minutes to die of an overdose of Cannabis. So, by your definition, if someone was asleep in their bed when the house caught fire and they died of smoke inhalation from the fire....was sleeping a contributory cause. Or was it an overdose of sleeping? Get real. This is sloppy sensationalism reporting.....solely for the sake of headlines. Everyone will read it because it is UNBELIEVABLE! Why, because it is simply untrue.
again, where is the sensationalism? they are reporting the facts. try again reading the article instead this time without the fog of cannabis smoke in front of the screen.
So, using the term "overdosed on cannabis" is not sensationalist?

This poor guy died of carbon monoxide poisoning but this is an afterthought in the headline by using this phrase.

You say they are 'simply reporting the facts' - the pathologist merely said cannabis was a 'contributing factor'. He did not say he had 'overdosed on cannabis' (whatever the hell that is - I have never heard of anyone 'overdosing on alcohol')

If you need a magnifying glass to see that your nickname should be Magoo..
[quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CharlyR[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LucaDudak[/bold] wrote: Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days. Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.[/p][/quote]So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something. This person passed out, then was suffocated by something. If he'd been conscious, he may have noticed the side effects of the carbon monoxide before it was too late. I don't think having the odd joint is really a significant issue, however in some cases it can lead to using other substances, which is why it is banned. Like alcohol, some people are weak willed and don't know when to stop.[/p][/quote]Actually they are using the term 'overdose' to make it seem as if he DIED of an overdose. A human being would have to consume 1500 lbs in 15 minutes to die of an overdose of Cannabis. So, by your definition, if someone was asleep in their bed when the house caught fire and they died of smoke inhalation from the fire....was sleeping a contributory cause. Or was it an overdose of sleeping? Get real. This is sloppy sensationalism reporting.....solely for the sake of headlines. Everyone will read it because it is UNBELIEVABLE! Why, because it is simply untrue.[/p][/quote]again, where is the sensationalism? they are reporting the facts. try again reading the article instead this time without the fog of cannabis smoke in front of the screen.[/p][/quote]So, using the term "overdosed on cannabis" is not sensationalist? This poor guy died of carbon monoxide poisoning but this is an afterthought in the headline by using this phrase. You say they are 'simply reporting the facts' - the pathologist merely said cannabis was a 'contributing factor'. He did not say he had 'overdosed on cannabis' (whatever the hell that is - I have never heard of anyone 'overdosing on alcohol') If you need a magnifying glass to see that your nickname should be Magoo.. scrumpyjack
  • Score: -2

6:33pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Dr Martin says...

I will air my views on your righteous herb to whomever I choose to, I am not going to be dictated to by an ex stoner
You say war on drugs was a total failure I say there never really has been a war , what laws there has been has seen a stabilisation in illicit drug usage for some and decrease in others , I don’t call that a total failure.
No arguments about the harms of alcohol but unfortunately it is legal and available, that does not justify legalising another psychoactive substance such as cannabis.
I will air my views on your righteous herb to whomever I choose to, I am not going to be dictated to by an ex stoner You say war on drugs was a total failure I say there never really has been a war , what laws there has been has seen a stabilisation in illicit drug usage for some and decrease in others , I don’t call that a total failure. No arguments about the harms of alcohol but unfortunately it is legal and available, that does not justify legalising another psychoactive substance such as cannabis. Dr Martin
  • Score: 1

6:55pm Mon 10 Feb 14

JustForPoole says...

Dr Martin wrote:
I will air my views on your righteous herb to whomever I choose to, I am not going to be dictated to by an ex stoner
You say war on drugs was a total failure I say there never really has been a war , what laws there has been has seen a stabilisation in illicit drug usage for some and decrease in others , I don’t call that a total failure.
No arguments about the harms of alcohol but unfortunately it is legal and available, that does not justify legalising another psychoactive substance such as cannabis.
Well chosen words !!!
[quote][p][bold]Dr Martin[/bold] wrote: I will air my views on your righteous herb to whomever I choose to, I am not going to be dictated to by an ex stoner You say war on drugs was a total failure I say there never really has been a war , what laws there has been has seen a stabilisation in illicit drug usage for some and decrease in others , I don’t call that a total failure. No arguments about the harms of alcohol but unfortunately it is legal and available, that does not justify legalising another psychoactive substance such as cannabis.[/p][/quote]Well chosen words !!! JustForPoole
  • Score: 2

9:37pm Mon 10 Feb 14

profondo asbo says...

scrumpyjack wrote:
profondo asbo wrote:
CharlyR wrote:
speedy231278 wrote:
LucaDudak wrote:
Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days.

Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.
So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something. This person passed out, then was suffocated by something. If he'd been conscious, he may have noticed the side effects of the carbon monoxide before it was too late.

I don't think having the odd joint is really a significant issue, however in some cases it can lead to using other substances, which is why it is banned. Like alcohol, some people are weak willed and don't know when to stop.
Actually they are using the term 'overdose' to make it seem as if he DIED of an overdose. A human being would have to consume 1500 lbs in 15 minutes to die of an overdose of Cannabis. So, by your definition, if someone was asleep in their bed when the house caught fire and they died of smoke inhalation from the fire....was sleeping a contributory cause. Or was it an overdose of sleeping? Get real. This is sloppy sensationalism reporting.....solely for the sake of headlines. Everyone will read it because it is UNBELIEVABLE! Why, because it is simply untrue.
again, where is the sensationalism? they are reporting the facts. try again reading the article instead this time without the fog of cannabis smoke in front of the screen.
So, using the term "overdosed on cannabis" is not sensationalist?

This poor guy died of carbon monoxide poisoning but this is an afterthought in the headline by using this phrase.

You say they are 'simply reporting the facts' - the pathologist merely said cannabis was a 'contributing factor'. He did not say he had 'overdosed on cannabis' (whatever the hell that is - I have never heard of anyone 'overdosing on alcohol')

If you need a magnifying glass to see that your nickname should be Magoo..
"The court heard that Royal Bournemouth Hospital pathologist Dr Al-Utayem carried out a post-mortem and concluded that the cause of death was carbon monoxide poisoning, with a significant condition of cannabis overdose."

cannabis overdose is a quote directly from the pathologist. the article is only "sensationalist" if you're a dope dependant otherwise just factual. head in the sand with cannabis smoke blowing out your arrrse your preferred pose?
[quote][p][bold]scrumpyjack[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]profondo asbo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CharlyR[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]speedy231278[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]LucaDudak[/bold] wrote: Rats in laboratories have been given thousands of times the dose (a joint's worth) of cannabis, and the only ill effect they suffered was sleeping for two days. Either this guy was the biggest lightweight on the planet, or the coroner doesn't know the first thing about medical science. Either way, this article is mere propaganda to enforce outdated laws.[/p][/quote]So, you are admitting, then, that cannabis can cause you to pass out, which is usually one of the side effects of having an overdose of something. This person passed out, then was suffocated by something. If he'd been conscious, he may have noticed the side effects of the carbon monoxide before it was too late. I don't think having the odd joint is really a significant issue, however in some cases it can lead to using other substances, which is why it is banned. Like alcohol, some people are weak willed and don't know when to stop.[/p][/quote]Actually they are using the term 'overdose' to make it seem as if he DIED of an overdose. A human being would have to consume 1500 lbs in 15 minutes to die of an overdose of Cannabis. So, by your definition, if someone was asleep in their bed when the house caught fire and they died of smoke inhalation from the fire....was sleeping a contributory cause. Or was it an overdose of sleeping? Get real. This is sloppy sensationalism reporting.....solely for the sake of headlines. Everyone will read it because it is UNBELIEVABLE! Why, because it is simply untrue.[/p][/quote]again, where is the sensationalism? they are reporting the facts. try again reading the article instead this time without the fog of cannabis smoke in front of the screen.[/p][/quote]So, using the term "overdosed on cannabis" is not sensationalist? This poor guy died of carbon monoxide poisoning but this is an afterthought in the headline by using this phrase. You say they are 'simply reporting the facts' - the pathologist merely said cannabis was a 'contributing factor'. He did not say he had 'overdosed on cannabis' (whatever the hell that is - I have never heard of anyone 'overdosing on alcohol') If you need a magnifying glass to see that your nickname should be Magoo..[/p][/quote]"The court heard that Royal Bournemouth Hospital pathologist Dr Al-Utayem carried out a post-mortem and concluded that the cause of death was carbon monoxide poisoning, with a significant condition of cannabis overdose." cannabis overdose is a quote directly from the pathologist. the article is only "sensationalist" if you're a dope dependant otherwise just factual. head in the sand with cannabis smoke blowing out your arrrse your preferred pose? profondo asbo
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