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Weymouth Pavilion

Weymouth Pavilion

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COUNCILLORS will discuss five options for the future of Weymouth Pavilion.

A report to the borough council's management committee reveals the options for the theatre ranging from leasing the building to closing it entirely by the end of May and demolishing it and turning the area into a car park.

The Management Committee will meet on February 5 to discuss the 2013/14 budget and make recommendations to the full council meeting on February 21.

Councillors are expected to recommend that the Pavilion is closed at the end of May and choose one of the following options for its future:

1. That it is closed and demolished prior to the longer-term redevelopment of the Peninsula site

2.That the council closes the Pavilion and a tender process starts to lease the building with criteria supporting community use.

3.The council closes the Pavilion and starts a tender process to lease the building to secure 'best market value,'

4.The council closes the Pavilion and markets it for freehold sale.

5.A further option for the borough council to continue running the Pavilion and the budget is found from elsewhere to meet operational needs, repairs and maintenance, is not the 'preferred option.'

The council undertook consultation to 'encourage either the community or private sector to submit proposals for purchase or lease' of the Pavilion.

A number of submissions were made including from Phil Say of the Save the Pavilion group, which aims to take over the running of the Pavilion and run it as a Community Interest Company, and a submission from the White Knight Group.

In their submission the group endorses the community proposals and urges the council to 'mothball' rather than demolish the Pavilion if submissions from interested parties did not satisfy the terms of the consultation.

The White Knight Group letter said they feared that the four weeks given, may prove 'too difficult a deadline' to convince the council that plans are credible and sustainable over a ten-year period, in order to 'justify the council keeping the theatre open until it can be transferred to new ownership.'

The group added that if it was mothballed they would propose taking over the entire peninsula site, including the ferry berth, and would build the facility that Condor requires.

They would then work with local groups to create a 'long-term future' for the Pavilion.

A saving of £700,000 for 2013/14 is projected from the closure of the Pavilion.

But following the Pavilion closure the council is proposing to grant a one-off sum of £100,000 to support arts and culture within the borough.

In the options to go before the Management Committee will be the proposals to dispose of the North Quay and Guildhall and to reduce spending on CCTV by £100,000.

Council Tax is going to be recommended to increase - a Band B property could see a two per cent increase of £4.16.

There are also proposals to reduce the number of councillors from the current number of 36.

The report to be presented to the Management Committee highlights that the partnership with West Dorset District Council has brought £2.1million in on-going savings but that as 'the significant level of cuts to council funding will continue for the foreseeable future' that the borough council 'no longer has the resources to be able to provide the same number of services and in the same ways as it has done traditionally.'

The report adds that the 'tough choices' the borough council has to make 'will prove unpopular' but that failure to do so will 'threaten the council's continued existence.'

The end of the Tourist information Center?

THE Management Committee is considering closing then selling or demolishing the Pavilion, which includes the Tourist Information Centre, and ways of 'reducing the costs of tourism services.'

The current budget, which also includes the Portland TIC is £127,000.

Councillors are looking to save £100,000 by 'ending the TIC service' and 'supporting alternatives.'

Under proposed plans to make savings the Weymouth TIC could close by the end of May and the Portland TIC would close in September 2013.

A plan for alternatives would then be created for the Management Committee by April.

This could include potential partnerships with the private sector or other organisations and use of online facilities.

Some basic services for Weymouth could be operated from North Quay.

TIC campaigner Barbara Howe raised more than 5,500 signatures to try and keep the TIC in its old spot on the sea front.

She said that losing the TIC would be a 'disaster.'

She added that many on the older generation did not have access to the internet.

Mrs Howe said: “I think it's a disaster personally. I think the least they could o is install something in the library, which is central.”

She added that a central location would make it easier for people to get to.

Festivals and events in the borough to be reviewed Also potentially being hit by cuts could be festivals and events in the borough with the £196,748 budget likely to be reviewed.

The council said it wants to focus on events that deliver 'clear economic benefits.'

AUTHORITY TO FACE TOUGH CHOICES IN CUTS CRISIS

Authority to face tough choices in cuts crisis DRASTIC money-saving measures have been recommended to keep Weymouth and Portland Borough Council going.

A budget report says the cash-strapped authority faces the largest challenge it has ever had to continue its existence, with the Pavilion, the council offices at North Quay and councillors’ posts all facing the axe.

The report proposes that council tax goes up by just under two per cent, CCTV services be reduced and tourist information centres (TICs) in Weymouth and Portland are scrapped.

Dozens of jobs are likely to be shed with the closure of these services.

The report says the ‘tough choices’ the authority has to make over service cuts and reductions will prove unpopular.

It warns: “A recent report from the Audit Commission predicts that a significant number of councils will become financially unviable.”

Councillors will vote on the recommendations in a crunch management committee meeting on February 5 as the council looks to close a funding gap of £2.2million over the next financial year.

And there will be a further £4.2million gap in funding over the next six years assuming the gap is closed every year on a permanent basis.

If this gap was funded by council tax alone – householders’ rates would have to increase by more than 42 per cent, the report says.

Over the last three years the council has experienced a reduction in its government grant of nearly £2million a year.

The authority has made savings of £2.1million so far by joining forces with West Dorset District Council in the Westwey Partnership and making 70 redundancies, the report says.

An all-party Budget Working Group was set up last year to help the council enter a new age of austerity and was tasked to identify options that would deliver annual savings of £900,000.

The recommendations from management committee will go to a meeting of the full council for a final decision on February 21.

MIKE GOODMAN SAYS NO TO MERGER COUNCIL

leader Mike Goodman said the borough council cannot merge any further with West Dorset District Council.

He said: “The potential saving from further merger is small. There is no more to be merged.”

Coun Goodman added that people had told the council at a previous consultation that they did not want to be part of a unity authority as residents liked 'their differences' and that their councils could make different decisions.

He added that the options like disposing of North Quay needed to be looked at and that there could potentially be space in other council buildings to accommodate staff including the Chickerell offices for back office staff.

But he added that it was still important to keep 'face to face' interaction with a town centre base.

For example Coun Goodman said: “We have face to face people dealing with benefits claims but back office work has been done for many years in Dorchester.”

Coun Goodman said looking at closing both Portland and Weymouth TICs was a 'difficult' question.

He said: “People get their information in different ways these days.”

Coun Goodman added that footfall to the TICs had been 'dropping' over the years.

He added: “People's shopping and information gathering habits are changing. It's hard to keep up with the technology.”'

COUNCILLORS & COUNCIL OFFICERS MONEY will be saved by reducing the number of borough councillors from the current total of 36, the report says.

It has also been recommended that elections should be held once every four years instead of three times in four years.

Management costs at the authority need to be further cut back, the report says, with a savings target of £500,000 to £600,000 for the top three tiers of management.

COUNCIL OFFICES 

THE offices at North Quay, which were built in the early 1970s, will be sold and a proposal is in place for staff to use existing empty office accommodation such as the offices at the Depot in Chickerell Road.

This would save the authority £250,000 a year and further costs because major expenditure is required on the North Quay offices over coming years, a report on the building found.

A town centre presence will be retained in Weymouth, the budget report says.

The move is expected to take around two years and it has been recommended that planning permission is obtained for future use of the harbourside site.

COUNCIL TAX

IT is proposed that council tax for the average Band D property in the borough will go up by £5.35 a year in the borough.

Nationally, councils cannot increase council tax by more than two per cent, with a two per cent limit set by the secretary of State.

Portland mum Debbie Lindoe said she was 'peeved' to hear that a council tax rise of just under two per cent has been proposed.

She said: “I'm a bit peeved that they are putting up council tax, especially if the country is supposed to be in an economic downturn.

“We don't seem to get any extra for our money. I know that things have to go up but we don't seem to get anything extra in return.

“Maybe they could cut some of the management pay.”

THE GUILDHALL

 THE council-owned Grade II listed building in St Edmund Street should be sold and other community uses for it investigated, the report said.

Another venue will have to be found for the council to hold full council meetings in, the report said.

The Budget Report said: “The Guildhall is only used by the council for five evening meetings during the year.

“This does not represent a good use of the asset.”

CCTV

CCTV THE budget for CCTV in 2013/14 will be reduced by £100,000, it is proposed.

It is recommended that 'less useful cameras' be de-activated and more technical efficiencies made, saving £20,000.

The report suggests seven cameras in Weymouth could be removed, making a saving of £6,500 in transmission costs and £3,000 for maintenance - a total of £9,500.

It is suggested that a reduction of six cameras in both Bridport and Dorchester could achieve savings of £2,500 for maintenance and a further £3,500 for transmission each, making a total of £12,000.

Ceasing to review evidential tapes - not a council responsibility - would save £30,000 and a proposal to reduce the operation and staffing of the CCTV camera from 24 hours a day to 12 hours would save £50,000.

Andy Alcock, chairman of the licensed Weymouth and Portland licensed boatsmen and fishermen association, said the proposed CCTV savings were 'ludicrous.'

He added: “We've had 49 recorded incidents of thefts and damage to vessels between the town bridge and the slipway over an eight year period.

“There will be more crime, without a doubt. I'd like to ask 'which of the cameras around town are less useful?'”

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2:58pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Get a grip says...

They must vote to close it.
They must vote to close it. Get a grip
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3:10pm Wed 30 Jan 13

shaun blondz says...

A vote to reduce the number of coucillors hey
How about reducing it to none at all ?
seeing as this current bunch are just a clueless waste of space voting just as their party leaders and council officers instruct them to.
A vote to reduce the number of coucillors hey How about reducing it to none at all ? seeing as this current bunch are just a clueless waste of space voting just as their party leaders and council officers instruct them to. shaun blondz
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3:17pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Get a grip says...

shaun blondz wrote:
A vote to reduce the number of coucillors hey
How about reducing it to none at all ?
seeing as this current bunch are just a clueless waste of space voting just as their party leaders and council officers instruct them to.
You give then too much credit as this would involve them following instructions.

I do not think they are capable of even this.
[quote][p][bold]shaun blondz[/bold] wrote: A vote to reduce the number of coucillors hey How about reducing it to none at all ? seeing as this current bunch are just a clueless waste of space voting just as their party leaders and council officers instruct them to.[/p][/quote]You give then too much credit as this would involve them following instructions. I do not think they are capable of even this. Get a grip
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3:47pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Wellbalanced says...

The problem with the Pavilion as I see it - I am not a Weymouth but a Dorchester resident - is its situation, its car parking, its distance from the bus stops and the fact that, apart from the New Year's Day Viennese concert, is usually half-empty (or you could say half-full). Perhaps more classy concerts instead of tribute bands? It's also very dated.
Instead of sniping at the Council, justifiable though it might be, why not put forward a sensible plan to demolish it, sell the land on which it stands, and from the proceeds build a nice new all-purpose arts-type building which may attract higher-quality events such as those in Bridport's Electric Palace. People seem to like quirky little places like that, I certainly do, as that is a small but multi-purpose centre, with easy (and cheap) parking. And no, I have no idea where such a place could be built! It really is in a wonderful position and I'm sure it could be made very attractive - look at the marina on Portland for example with its restaurants etc.
The problem with the Pavilion as I see it - I am not a Weymouth but a Dorchester resident - is its situation, its car parking, its distance from the bus stops and the fact that, apart from the New Year's Day Viennese concert, is usually half-empty (or you could say half-full). Perhaps more classy concerts instead of tribute bands? It's also very dated. Instead of sniping at the Council, justifiable though it might be, why not put forward a sensible plan to demolish it, sell the land on which it stands, and from the proceeds build a nice new all-purpose arts-type building which may attract higher-quality events such as those in Bridport's Electric Palace. People seem to like quirky little places like that, I certainly do, as that is a small but multi-purpose centre, with easy (and cheap) parking. And no, I have no idea where such a place could be built! It really is in a wonderful position and I'm sure it could be made very attractive - look at the marina on Portland for example with its restaurants etc. Wellbalanced
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4:04pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Get a grip says...

Wellbalanced wrote:
The problem with the Pavilion as I see it - I am not a Weymouth but a Dorchester resident - is its situation, its car parking, its distance from the bus stops and the fact that, apart from the New Year's Day Viennese concert, is usually half-empty (or you could say half-full). Perhaps more classy concerts instead of tribute bands? It's also very dated.
Instead of sniping at the Council, justifiable though it might be, why not put forward a sensible plan to demolish it, sell the land on which it stands, and from the proceeds build a nice new all-purpose arts-type building which may attract higher-quality events such as those in Bridport's Electric Palace. People seem to like quirky little places like that, I certainly do, as that is a small but multi-purpose centre, with easy (and cheap) parking. And no, I have no idea where such a place could be built! It really is in a wonderful position and I'm sure it could be made very attractive - look at the marina on Portland for example with its restaurants etc.
OK but the two examples you use are privately funded.
[quote][p][bold]Wellbalanced[/bold] wrote: The problem with the Pavilion as I see it - I am not a Weymouth but a Dorchester resident - is its situation, its car parking, its distance from the bus stops and the fact that, apart from the New Year's Day Viennese concert, is usually half-empty (or you could say half-full). Perhaps more classy concerts instead of tribute bands? It's also very dated. Instead of sniping at the Council, justifiable though it might be, why not put forward a sensible plan to demolish it, sell the land on which it stands, and from the proceeds build a nice new all-purpose arts-type building which may attract higher-quality events such as those in Bridport's Electric Palace. People seem to like quirky little places like that, I certainly do, as that is a small but multi-purpose centre, with easy (and cheap) parking. And no, I have no idea where such a place could be built! It really is in a wonderful position and I'm sure it could be made very attractive - look at the marina on Portland for example with its restaurants etc.[/p][/quote]OK but the two examples you use are privately funded. Get a grip
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4:55pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Dorset Guy says...

I dont see an option of keeping it open till the solution is found in say 6 months (to see this season out) so guess the plan is to close then board it up then discover next year that it has deteriorated so demolition is the only option
I dont see an option of keeping it open till the solution is found in say 6 months (to see this season out) so guess the plan is to close then board it up then discover next year that it has deteriorated so demolition is the only option Dorset Guy
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4:55pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Dave Aitch says...

I would like to see how it costs £700.000 a year to run that place !
I would like to see how it costs £700.000 a year to run that place ! Dave Aitch
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5:07pm Wed 30 Jan 13

taffyinexile says...

As an outsider looking in so to speak. I fear that the decision has already been made. No matter what the local population feel, it will be a decision that goes toward one thing.

Saving money to make up for the shortfall in council spending during the Olympics. It would appear to an outsider that the current stock of Councillors and their council advisers have no 'business acumen' whatsoever and everything they touch turns to lead.

They haven't even allowed sufficient time for any prospective future concern to present a business case.

Done and dusted I'm afraid.

'Everything moves elsewhere' seems to be the guideline.

Osprey Quay Bridport, Dorchester, anywhere except where the paying visitors want. Weymouth.

Holiday resort? No. Dead town.
As an outsider looking in so to speak. I fear that the decision has already been made. No matter what the local population feel, it will be a decision that goes toward one thing. Saving money to make up for the shortfall in council spending during the Olympics. It would appear to an outsider that the current stock of Councillors and their council advisers have no 'business acumen' whatsoever and everything they touch turns to lead. They haven't even allowed sufficient time for any prospective future concern to present a business case. Done and dusted I'm afraid. 'Everything moves elsewhere' seems to be the guideline. Osprey Quay Bridport, Dorchester, anywhere except where the paying visitors want. Weymouth. Holiday resort? No. Dead town. taffyinexile
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5:14pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Dave Aitch says...

I cant recall the date, but I did see the mobile phone masts being removed late last year. That's a loss of income. Perhaps not much, but still a loss.
I cant recall the date, but I did see the mobile phone masts being removed late last year. That's a loss of income. Perhaps not much, but still a loss. Dave Aitch
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5:23pm Wed 30 Jan 13

new inn exile says...

I have lived in Wales for 40years but born and bread in Weymouth. Sad thing is remembering going to the opening shows Cyril Stapleton and Aurther Askey,
As a teenager dancing to Swinging blue jeans and all the great groups of the sixties I keep in daily contact with the town the football team have gone backwards the Pavilion and frank offarells great Weymouth team they really were good times to live in Weymouth. the only thing on the increase is crime we never had murders in those days. and by the way the Council was crap in those days never saw a poor councillor.
I have lived in Wales for 40years but born and bread in Weymouth. Sad thing is remembering going to the opening shows Cyril Stapleton and Aurther Askey, As a teenager dancing to Swinging blue jeans and all the great groups of the sixties I keep in daily contact with the town the football team have gone backwards the Pavilion and frank offarells great Weymouth team they really were good times to live in Weymouth. the only thing on the increase is crime we never had murders in those days. and by the way the Council was crap in those days never saw a poor councillor. new inn exile
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5:23pm Wed 30 Jan 13

new inn exile says...

I have lived in Wales for 40years but born and bread in Weymouth. Sad thing is remembering going to the opening shows Cyril Stapleton and Aurther Askey,
As a teenager dancing to Swinging blue jeans and all the great groups of the sixties I keep in daily contact with the town the football team have gone backwards the Pavilion and frank offarells great Weymouth team they really were good times to live in Weymouth. the only thing on the increase is crime we never had murders in those days. and by the way the Council was crap in those days never saw a poor councillor.
I have lived in Wales for 40years but born and bread in Weymouth. Sad thing is remembering going to the opening shows Cyril Stapleton and Aurther Askey, As a teenager dancing to Swinging blue jeans and all the great groups of the sixties I keep in daily contact with the town the football team have gone backwards the Pavilion and frank offarells great Weymouth team they really were good times to live in Weymouth. the only thing on the increase is crime we never had murders in those days. and by the way the Council was crap in those days never saw a poor councillor. new inn exile
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5:39pm Wed 30 Jan 13

Sidney Hall says...

To be fair, most councillors don't sell themselves as having business acumen. When the local elections come round, a flyer comes through the door saying they "are local and live with their family" and we think "Oh that's nice. A nice wholesome person. I'll tick that niceness box." And we get a nice person who has a bit of free time to attend some meetings. Most people with any business acumen would probably be in it for themselves because that's the nature of people with business acumen.
I have no answer. This armchair is comfy though.
To be fair, most councillors don't sell themselves as having business acumen. When the local elections come round, a flyer comes through the door saying they "are local and live with their family" and we think "Oh that's nice. A nice wholesome person. I'll tick that niceness box." And we get a nice person who has a bit of free time to attend some meetings. Most people with any business acumen would probably be in it for themselves because that's the nature of people with business acumen. I have no answer. This armchair is comfy though. Sidney Hall
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6:39pm Wed 30 Jan 13

PHonnor says...

Sidney Hall wrote:
To be fair, most councillors don't sell themselves as having business acumen. When the local elections come round, a flyer comes through the door saying they "are local and live with their family" and we think "Oh that's nice. A nice wholesome person. I'll tick that niceness box." And we get a nice person who has a bit of free time to attend some meetings. Most people with any business acumen would probably be in it for themselves because that's the nature of people with business acumen.
I have no answer. This armchair is comfy though.
And that there in lies the problem. The same Councillors put themselves up for election each year with a good hunch they wont be challenged. If people feel so strongly than I would suggest you put yourself up for election, dont have to be associated to a political party as it would benefit the town seeing new blood with that all important business acumen which is so sadly lacking with the current batch.
[quote][p][bold]Sidney Hall[/bold] wrote: To be fair, most councillors don't sell themselves as having business acumen. When the local elections come round, a flyer comes through the door saying they "are local and live with their family" and we think "Oh that's nice. A nice wholesome person. I'll tick that niceness box." And we get a nice person who has a bit of free time to attend some meetings. Most people with any business acumen would probably be in it for themselves because that's the nature of people with business acumen. I have no answer. This armchair is comfy though.[/p][/quote]And that there in lies the problem. The same Councillors put themselves up for election each year with a good hunch they wont be challenged. If people feel so strongly than I would suggest you put yourself up for election, dont have to be associated to a political party as it would benefit the town seeing new blood with that all important business acumen which is so sadly lacking with the current batch. PHonnor
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7:58pm Wed 30 Jan 13

PortlandYoof says...

So if they knock it down and add a car park, what exactly is there left to actually visit in weymouth?

Instead of adding more parking spaces(Hello, council CASH COW!) - Try lowering the rates to encourage businesses to thrive in weymouth once again for goodness sake. No point in parking spaces if nobody will be there to fill them, as the town is dead!
So if they knock it down and add a car park, what exactly is there left to actually visit in weymouth? Instead of adding more parking spaces(Hello, council CASH COW!) - Try lowering the rates to encourage businesses to thrive in weymouth once again for goodness sake. No point in parking spaces if nobody will be there to fill them, as the town is dead! PortlandYoof
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9:25pm Wed 30 Jan 13

spangler says...

Time for Weymouth to considered rebranding itself?
Center Parcs has been a successful brand in recent years, how about 'Car Parcs' ?
Time for Weymouth to considered rebranding itself? Center Parcs has been a successful brand in recent years, how about 'Car Parcs' ? spangler
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10:24pm Wed 30 Jan 13

dorset & proud says...

4 of the 5 options involve closing it so it seems highly likely it will close.

Not entirely sure what mothballing it will achieve, if left for too long then it will fall into an ever greater state of disrepair, which is just going to inflate the costs further.

I think in its current form the Pavilion is too big, too costly and years of under-investment have taken their toll. I also don't think it's a particularly attractive building and if it is to be demolished then something more compact and sympathetic to the old Ritz design should be considered, rather than a car park.
4 of the 5 options involve closing it so it seems highly likely it will close. Not entirely sure what mothballing it will achieve, if left for too long then it will fall into an ever greater state of disrepair, which is just going to inflate the costs further. I think in its current form the Pavilion is too big, too costly and years of under-investment have taken their toll. I also don't think it's a particularly attractive building and if it is to be demolished then something more compact and sympathetic to the old Ritz design should be considered, rather than a car park. dorset & proud
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10:58pm Wed 30 Jan 13

cb2 says...

over the years have seen some absolute rubbish shows in the place - poor tribute bands has been "stars" etc where the audiance has been at best half full, which must loose money. However have seen some absolutly packed shows (or missed out because I was too slow to get tickets) like for example Jimmy Carr which must make money - so IF you book a decent act then people will pay to see it IF you book rubbish why should we pay to see it?

A prime example of this has been over the years the awful pantos (didn't see this years with a new company / director etc so please don't count it in this) with taped songs etc in a period that should be a "banker" while the excellant local panto with proper jokes and actors who aren't there just for the pay cheque are shoved at the end of the festive season.

Also have you tried to book the place - you have to pay top prices for the venue which local groups can't afford!

Is it the council trying to shut the place and pocket a nice sum of case when its sold for flats and hotels etc.

sack the council and bring in people who have a clue!

Essay over!
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over the years have seen some absolute rubbish shows in the place - poor tribute bands has been "stars" etc where the audiance has been at best half full, which must loose money. However have seen some absolutly packed shows (or missed out because I was too slow to get tickets) like for example Jimmy Carr which must make money - so IF you book a decent act then people will pay to see it IF you book rubbish why should we pay to see it? A prime example of this has been over the years the awful pantos (didn't see this years with a new company / director etc so please don't count it in this) with taped songs etc in a period that should be a "banker" while the excellant local panto with proper jokes and actors who aren't there just for the pay cheque are shoved at the end of the festive season. Also have you tried to book the place - you have to pay top prices for the venue which local groups can't afford! Is it the council trying to shut the place and pocket a nice sum of case when its sold for flats and hotels etc. sack the council and bring in people who have a clue! Essay over! ] cb2
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12:10am Thu 31 Jan 13

Isosceles says...

It is just not the Pavilion, my daughter-in-law made a visit to a bank in the town centre and told me afterwards how depressing it was, made worse by the disappearance of Next and other shops.
The 'Best of Dorset' show is going to cost stall-holders 'from £125’. Surely in these straitened times, the Council should be offering publicity to local business at a minimum cost to hopefully generate more inward investment, especially as this may be the last show of this kind at this venue if the Council have their way and knock it down without any thoughts of a sensible replacement.
A new £100m regeneration project in Dorset will see its first hotel open in spring but not in Weymouth, supposedly a holiday resort, instead this is happening in the county town.
It seems as if those on North Quay wish to accelerate this downwards trend so that they can pocket their redundancy money and other leaving benefits.
Due to poor publicity, I haven’t been made aware for a while of 'what's on' at the Pavilion but reading after about some of the down-market events that have been put on, I haven’t felt that I missed anything.
It does seem as if the aim is to run down the town facilities generally.
Will the last to leave the town centre, please switch off the lights (including those tatty lasers) and take the 'rox on stix' in a muddy pond with them.
It is just not the Pavilion, my daughter-in-law made a visit to a bank in the town centre and told me afterwards how depressing it was, made worse by the disappearance of Next and other shops. The 'Best of Dorset' show is going to cost stall-holders 'from £125’. Surely in these straitened times, the Council should be offering publicity to local business at a minimum cost to hopefully generate more inward investment, especially as this may be the last show of this kind at this venue if the Council have their way and knock it down without any thoughts of a sensible replacement. A new £100m regeneration project in Dorset will see its first hotel open in spring but not in Weymouth, supposedly a holiday resort, instead this is happening in the county town. It seems as if those on North Quay wish to accelerate this downwards trend so that they can pocket their redundancy money and other leaving benefits. Due to poor publicity, I haven’t been made aware for a while of 'what's on' at the Pavilion but reading after about some of the down-market events that have been put on, I haven’t felt that I missed anything. It does seem as if the aim is to run down the town facilities generally. Will the last to leave the town centre, please switch off the lights (including those tatty lasers) and take the 'rox on stix' in a muddy pond with them. Isosceles
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5:46pm Thu 31 Jan 13

bootedsw says...

Dave Aitch wrote:
I would like to see how it costs £700.000 a year to run that place !
Under FOI you can write to the council and they are obliged to tell you. When you find out post a link here
[quote][p][bold]Dave Aitch[/bold] wrote: I would like to see how it costs £700.000 a year to run that place ![/p][/quote]Under FOI you can write to the council and they are obliged to tell you. When you find out post a link here bootedsw
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7:51pm Thu 31 Jan 13

portlandresident says...

I've found the answer to the £100k shortfall! Cut Nick Thornley & Tony Hurley's position, and that still leaves a director and managers to operate tourism services!!
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For those who don't know, between those two people, you've pretty much managed to locate the money needed to save the Tourist Information service from closing!
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Clearly not the time to get rid of the Tourist Information service then! There's probably people telephoning the TIC, saying that they've seen Weymouth on the TV during the Olympics, thought it looks nice, and want to come and stay. But, there won't be anyone there to welcome them, and tell them where to spend their hard earned cash! The irony is amazing!”
I've found the answer to the £100k shortfall! Cut Nick Thornley & Tony Hurley's position, and that still leaves a director and managers to operate tourism services!! - For those who don't know, between those two people, you've pretty much managed to locate the money needed to save the Tourist Information service from closing! - Clearly not the time to get rid of the Tourist Information service then! There's probably people telephoning the TIC, saying that they've seen Weymouth on the TV during the Olympics, thought it looks nice, and want to come and stay. But, there won't be anyone there to welcome them, and tell them where to spend their hard earned cash! The irony is amazing!” portlandresident
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9:57am Fri 1 Feb 13

rodwell-t-rail says...

bootedsw wrote:
Dave Aitch wrote: I would like to see how it costs £700.000 a year to run that place !
Under FOI you can write to the council and they are obliged to tell you. When you find out post a link here
bootedsw says...
5:46pm Thu 31 Jan 13

Dave Aitch wrote:
I would like to see how it costs £700.000 a year to run that place !
Under FOI you can write to the council and they are obliged to tell you. When you find out post a link here”

If you look on the W&PBC web site at Dorset For You for the Pavilion you could actually see the budget advice that the council were giving out to people/groups for them to take into consideration when submitting their proposals for taking over the Pavilion.
[quote][p][bold]bootedsw[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Aitch[/bold] wrote: I would like to see how it costs £700.000 a year to run that place ![/p][/quote]Under FOI you can write to the council and they are obliged to tell you. When you find out post a link here[/p][/quote]bootedsw says... 5:46pm Thu 31 Jan 13 Dave Aitch wrote: I would like to see how it costs £700.000 a year to run that place ! Under FOI you can write to the council and they are obliged to tell you. When you find out post a link here” If you look on the W&PBC web site at Dorset For You for the Pavilion you could actually see the budget advice that the council were giving out to people/groups for them to take into consideration when submitting their proposals for taking over the Pavilion. rodwell-t-rail
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3:43pm Fri 1 Feb 13

jusphil says...

If the worst comes to it we could always become twinned with TYNEHAM the other well known Dorset wreck
If the worst comes to it we could always become twinned with TYNEHAM the other well known Dorset wreck jusphil
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10:43am Sat 2 Feb 13

sapient says...

Getting rid of the TIC does not seem like a good idea. Wiltshire Council has done this and it has been estimated that over £1,000,000 has been lost annually from their local economy. The other issue which arises from the reduction in Government Grant is the inevitable move towards the establishment of a single unitary authority for Dorset. This has already happened in Wiltshire and Cornwall, with the result that residents have even less influence on the future of their local areas.
Getting rid of the TIC does not seem like a good idea. Wiltshire Council has done this and it has been estimated that over £1,000,000 has been lost annually from their local economy. The other issue which arises from the reduction in Government Grant is the inevitable move towards the establishment of a single unitary authority for Dorset. This has already happened in Wiltshire and Cornwall, with the result that residents have even less influence on the future of their local areas. sapient
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8:23pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Chesilmaster says...

Reduce CCTV...

What a joke. May as well advertise to the criminals, when it will be closed so that they can have a free for all.
Clueless councillors..
Reduce CCTV... What a joke. May as well advertise to the criminals, when it will be closed so that they can have a free for all. Clueless councillors.. Chesilmaster
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9:15am Sun 3 Feb 13

bedpans says...

Chesilmaster wrote:
Reduce CCTV... What a joke. May as well advertise to the criminals, when it will be closed so that they can have a free for all. Clueless councillors..
We need MORE CCTV , not less. Get more cameras up all over the borough. Get more operators to watch it 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. No point having loads of cameras though, if we dont have the sufficient staff to control and monitor the cameras.
[quote][p][bold]Chesilmaster[/bold] wrote: Reduce CCTV... What a joke. May as well advertise to the criminals, when it will be closed so that they can have a free for all. Clueless councillors..[/p][/quote]We need MORE CCTV , not less. Get more cameras up all over the borough. Get more operators to watch it 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. No point having loads of cameras though, if we dont have the sufficient staff to control and monitor the cameras. bedpans
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10:58pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Chesilmaster says...

bedpans wrote:
Chesilmaster wrote:
Reduce CCTV... What a joke. May as well advertise to the criminals, when it will be closed so that they can have a free for all. Clueless councillors..
We need MORE CCTV , not less. Get more cameras up all over the borough. Get more operators to watch it 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. No point having loads of cameras though, if we dont have the sufficient staff to control and monitor the cameras.
They are looking to slash staff and reduce the manning. Cut cameras...
Everyone should get to the council meeting at 9:30 on Tuesday and have there say.
[quote][p][bold]bedpans[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chesilmaster[/bold] wrote: Reduce CCTV... What a joke. May as well advertise to the criminals, when it will be closed so that they can have a free for all. Clueless councillors..[/p][/quote]We need MORE CCTV , not less. Get more cameras up all over the borough. Get more operators to watch it 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. No point having loads of cameras though, if we dont have the sufficient staff to control and monitor the cameras.[/p][/quote]They are looking to slash staff and reduce the manning. Cut cameras... Everyone should get to the council meeting at 9:30 on Tuesday and have there say. Chesilmaster
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10:13pm Mon 4 Feb 13

knickerlessparsons says...

The whole CCTV suite is in jeopardy. Cutting camera numbers, staff and surveillance times are just the start of it. There has even been talk of a tendering process in order to have it taken over by a private security company. A lot of money was spent upgrading the CCTV suite which included the installation of many additional cameras along the main Olympic routes.This money I assume, came from either LOCOG or the ODA who possibly had no idea or didn't care that the CCTV building along with it's surrounding area is up for future re-development. Look at how different things could now of been if Howard Holding's had met it's contractual obligations with the Borough Council and re-developed the site as proposed.
The whole CCTV suite is in jeopardy. Cutting camera numbers, staff and surveillance times are just the start of it. There has even been talk of a tendering process in order to have it taken over by a private security company. A lot of money was spent upgrading the CCTV suite which included the installation of many additional cameras along the main Olympic routes.This money I assume, came from either LOCOG or the ODA who possibly had no idea or didn't care that the CCTV building along with it's surrounding area is up for future re-development. Look at how different things could now of been if Howard Holding's had met it's contractual obligations with the Borough Council and re-developed the site as proposed. knickerlessparsons
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7:58am Tue 5 Feb 13

Phaedrus says...

This is a larger issue than the Pavilion, it is a key part of what sort of holiday resort Weymouth wants to be. A major holiday resort without a tourist office? That would be a joke. I have seen no evidence that anyone on the council or any of the officials have any sort of plan or idea as to the future of the town as a resort. Nor have I seen any evidence that they are willing to talk with and listen to those in tourism businesses who might just have some ideas as to what should be done.
This is a larger issue than the Pavilion, it is a key part of what sort of holiday resort Weymouth wants to be. A major holiday resort without a tourist office? That would be a joke. I have seen no evidence that anyone on the council or any of the officials have any sort of plan or idea as to the future of the town as a resort. Nor have I seen any evidence that they are willing to talk with and listen to those in tourism businesses who might just have some ideas as to what should be done. Phaedrus
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2:28pm Tue 5 Feb 13

Africaboy says...

I wonder how many people that have expressed their comments here have actually been to the Pavilion in the last year? If its only a couple then is it worth keeping it open?
I wonder how many people that have expressed their comments here have actually been to the Pavilion in the last year? If its only a couple then is it worth keeping it open? Africaboy
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5:43pm Tue 5 Feb 13

bedpans says...

Do the majority of people really care about the pavilion. Aboit 70 people turned up at the meeting-hardly a large part of our population.The hairdresser is correct. The councillors are a law unto themselves and dont listen to the electorate. You cant beat them unless a new local residents party is formed. Its time for action not blogs and words.
Do the majority of people really care about the pavilion. Aboit 70 people turned up at the meeting-hardly a large part of our population.The hairdresser is correct. The councillors are a law unto themselves and dont listen to the electorate. You cant beat them unless a new local residents party is formed. Its time for action not blogs and words. bedpans
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8:07am Wed 6 Feb 13

biggestoaf says...

That's brilliant!
"It's time for action not blogs and words" he posts on a forum. Were you a scriptwriter for Monty Python by any chance?
That's brilliant! "It's time for action not blogs and words" he posts on a forum. Were you a scriptwriter for Monty Python by any chance? biggestoaf
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12:33pm Wed 6 Feb 13

Throckape says...

We do need and deserve a cultural centre for art and entertainment. Maybe just hanging on to what we've got is a bit desperate. Perhaps the old Pavillion is not quite what we really need, but once we lose it we will have nothing. If it stays it will need to be improved, and we will need proper transport links to outlying areas. Most theaters up and down the coutry run at a loss, so we will need Patrons and Patrons with a bit of vision.
We do need and deserve a cultural centre for art and entertainment. Maybe just hanging on to what we've got is a bit desperate. Perhaps the old Pavillion is not quite what we really need, but once we lose it we will have nothing. If it stays it will need to be improved, and we will need proper transport links to outlying areas. Most theaters up and down the coutry run at a loss, so we will need Patrons and Patrons with a bit of vision. Throckape
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