Have you seen driver wanted for assaults on cyclists?

First published in News

A MYSTERY driver has been assaulting cyclists by pushing them off their bikes.

Police are hunting the occupants of a gold coloured car who twice within 30 minutes tried to push cyclists off their bikes in Poole.

“They are going to kill someone,” said Eamonn Deane, chairman of Bournemouth Jubilee Wheelers and Daily Echo cycling columnist.

“If someone knocks me off they are going to kill me,” he said. "The impact of an incident like that is huge on all the people involved.

“There is, I feel, an increase in aggressiveness, I have noticed that over the years.”

No-one was hurt in these sudden attacks but regular cyclists can relate a catalogue of incidents with “angry” motorists turning on them. 

“We all worry about each other riding on the road because of these things that happen,” said Anne Stevens, secretary and treasurer of Bournemouth Arrow Cycling Club.

She said she had been cycling with a companion in the country when a man in a van thumped him on the back as they passed. And on another occasion a cyclist had blue paint thrown over him from a passing van.

Police believe there may have been other victims of the gold car and are urging people to come forward.

“These were unprovoked assaults on cyclists,” said PC Paul Diffey of Poole police.

The first took place at 6.30am on Sunday, September 2 when a 40-year-old Poole woman was shoved off her bike while cycling along Sandbanks Road. She was not seriously injured. 

Witnesses and anyone with information can call Dorset Police on 101 quoting incident 2:155

The second reported incident was at 6.55am along the Upton bypass when an attempt was made to push a 64-year-old man from Poole off his bike. He managed to stay on his bicycle and was uninjured.

“As we had two reports involving this gold coloured car within half an hour, I suspect that there might have been further incidents and I would urge anyone who has been a victim of a similar incident to contact Dorset Police,” said PC Diffey.

“I would also like to speak with anyone who witnessed these assaults, or has any information about those responsible.”

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11:53am Wed 12 Sep 12

The Liberal says...

Partial blame must go to all the rabid anti-cycling commenters on this site. All your hateful comments have probably inspired this psycho to do this – unless he's actually one of you, of course. Wouldn't surprise me.
Partial blame must go to all the rabid anti-cycling commenters on this site. All your hateful comments have probably inspired this psycho to do this – unless he's actually one of you, of course. Wouldn't surprise me. The Liberal
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11:57am Wed 12 Sep 12

jeebuscripes says...

What kind of nutter drives around between 6am and 7am on a Sunday morning attacking people?

More importantly, who on earth would drive a gold coloured car?
What kind of nutter drives around between 6am and 7am on a Sunday morning attacking people? More importantly, who on earth would drive a gold coloured car? jeebuscripes
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12:02pm Wed 12 Sep 12

penhale says...

With all the cctv cameras in and around Poole are we to believe that this car has not been picked up somewhere.
I cant believe how stupid some people are, fancy driving around between 06.00am and 07.00am on a Sunday morning.
With all the cctv cameras in and around Poole are we to believe that this car has not been picked up somewhere. I cant believe how stupid some people are, fancy driving around between 06.00am and 07.00am on a Sunday morning. penhale
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12:20pm Wed 12 Sep 12

robsmith123 says...

a "mystery" driver.

how exciting.
a "mystery" driver. how exciting. robsmith123
  • Score: -1

12:39pm Wed 12 Sep 12

B.F.G says...

It's a new craze, called tipping. Utter morons.
It's a new craze, called tipping. Utter morons. B.F.G
  • Score: 0

1:20pm Wed 12 Sep 12

pete woodley says...

Once again late reporting does not help identification.
Once again late reporting does not help identification. pete woodley
  • Score: 1

1:28pm Wed 12 Sep 12

Pablo23 says...

Probably kids that had been partying all night, off their heads and being weird.
I've seen what they are like.
Probably kids that had been partying all night, off their heads and being weird. I've seen what they are like. Pablo23
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8:01pm Wed 12 Sep 12

Turtlebay says...

When you see the antics of the commuter cyclists along Barrack Road, Christchurch around 7.15 to 7.30 am it's understandable that motorists wish to take the law into their own hands. This morning I was driving along and the pedestrian crossing lights changed to red. Three Lycra clad cyclists rode at full speed through the red light, one actually clipped a pedestrian who was crossing. Since they have no registration plates it's impossible to report them so they get away with attempted murder. The idiot who knocked the pedestrian over was riding at about 30 mph, and had no lights. When I caught up with him after the lights changed to green he just stuck a finger up at me in a rude gesture!
When you see the antics of the commuter cyclists along Barrack Road, Christchurch around 7.15 to 7.30 am it's understandable that motorists wish to take the law into their own hands. This morning I was driving along and the pedestrian crossing lights changed to red. Three Lycra clad cyclists rode at full speed through the red light, one actually clipped a pedestrian who was crossing. Since they have no registration plates it's impossible to report them so they get away with attempted murder. The idiot who knocked the pedestrian over was riding at about 30 mph, and had no lights. When I caught up with him after the lights changed to green he just stuck a finger up at me in a rude gesture! Turtlebay
  • Score: -2

12:13am Thu 13 Sep 12

s-pb2 says...

Turtlebay wrote:
When you see the antics of the commuter cyclists along Barrack Road, Christchurch around 7.15 to 7.30 am it's understandable that motorists wish to take the law into their own hands. This morning I was driving along and the pedestrian crossing lights changed to red. Three Lycra clad cyclists rode at full speed through the red light, one actually clipped a pedestrian who was crossing. Since they have no registration plates it's impossible to report them so they get away with attempted murder. The idiot who knocked the pedestrian over was riding at about 30 mph, and had no lights. When I caught up with him after the lights changed to green he just stuck a finger up at me in a rude gesture!
No its not understandable for these assaults to take place. Yes the cyclists you saw were in the wrong, but that does not excuse someone else 2 towns away pushing completely different cyclists off their bikes.
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: When you see the antics of the commuter cyclists along Barrack Road, Christchurch around 7.15 to 7.30 am it's understandable that motorists wish to take the law into their own hands. This morning I was driving along and the pedestrian crossing lights changed to red. Three Lycra clad cyclists rode at full speed through the red light, one actually clipped a pedestrian who was crossing. Since they have no registration plates it's impossible to report them so they get away with attempted murder. The idiot who knocked the pedestrian over was riding at about 30 mph, and had no lights. When I caught up with him after the lights changed to green he just stuck a finger up at me in a rude gesture![/p][/quote]No its not understandable for these assaults to take place. Yes the cyclists you saw were in the wrong, but that does not excuse someone else 2 towns away pushing completely different cyclists off their bikes. s-pb2
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10:27am Thu 13 Sep 12

cmg081970 says...

Turtlebay wrote:
When you see the antics of the commuter cyclists along Barrack Road, Christchurch around 7.15 to 7.30 am it's understandable that motorists wish to take the law into their own hands. This morning I was driving along and the pedestrian crossing lights changed to red. Three Lycra clad cyclists rode at full speed through the red light, one actually clipped a pedestrian who was crossing. Since they have no registration plates it's impossible to report them so they get away with attempted murder. The idiot who knocked the pedestrian over was riding at about 30 mph, and had no lights. When I caught up with him after the lights changed to green he just stuck a finger up at me in a rude gesture!
first of all get your facts straight. This isnt 'taking the law into their own hands' this is unprovoked assault.
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: When you see the antics of the commuter cyclists along Barrack Road, Christchurch around 7.15 to 7.30 am it's understandable that motorists wish to take the law into their own hands. This morning I was driving along and the pedestrian crossing lights changed to red. Three Lycra clad cyclists rode at full speed through the red light, one actually clipped a pedestrian who was crossing. Since they have no registration plates it's impossible to report them so they get away with attempted murder. The idiot who knocked the pedestrian over was riding at about 30 mph, and had no lights. When I caught up with him after the lights changed to green he just stuck a finger up at me in a rude gesture![/p][/quote]first of all get your facts straight. This isnt 'taking the law into their own hands' this is unprovoked assault. cmg081970
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10:34am Thu 13 Sep 12

InkZ says...

Wish I could push cars over. The old people in their german registered classic sports car would have been on their roof for pulling out on me on the roundabout last night. Only reason they didn't hit me is because I couldn't make eye contact with the driver (left hand drive) so I ready for something stupid.
Wish I could push cars over. The old people in their german registered classic sports car would have been on their roof for pulling out on me on the roundabout last night. Only reason they didn't hit me is because I couldn't make eye contact with the driver (left hand drive) so I ready for something stupid. InkZ
  • Score: 0

10:54am Thu 13 Sep 12

nobull says...

Don't push just any cyclist......make sure you get the right ones!!!!!!!!!
IE. red light jumpers, crossing ignore-rs, no signalers,they are the ones that need pushing off xx to all carefull cyclists xx
Don't push just any cyclist......make sure you get the right ones!!!!!!!!! IE. red light jumpers, crossing ignore-rs, no signalers,they are the ones that need pushing off xx to all carefull cyclists xx nobull
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10:54am Thu 13 Sep 12

nobull says...

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11:06am Thu 13 Sep 12

Cyclestrian says...

penhale wrote:
With all the cctv cameras in and around Poole are we to believe that this car has not been picked up somewhere.
I cant believe how stupid some people are, fancy driving around between 06.00am and 07.00am on a Sunday morning.
Also many cyclists run one or more tiny HD video cameras. Google your registration number to see if your car is on YouTube, or browse cycling videos.

This serious, elsewhere in the country recently:

"Doncaster cyclist seriously injured

A CYCLIST suffered serious injuries after he appeared to have been pushed from his bike by a passenger in a passing car.

The 59-year-old man suffered a broken collar bone, broken ribs and a punctured lung in the collision in Bilham Lane in Doncaster.

Police would like to speak to the owner of a ..."
[quote][p][bold]penhale[/bold] wrote: With all the cctv cameras in and around Poole are we to believe that this car has not been picked up somewhere. I cant believe how stupid some people are, fancy driving around between 06.00am and 07.00am on a Sunday morning.[/p][/quote]Also many cyclists run one or more tiny HD video cameras. Google your registration number to see if your car is on YouTube, or browse cycling videos. This serious, elsewhere in the country recently: "Doncaster cyclist seriously injured A CYCLIST suffered serious injuries after he appeared to have been pushed from his bike by a passenger in a passing car. The 59-year-old man suffered a broken collar bone, broken ribs and a punctured lung in the collision in Bilham Lane in Doncaster. Police would like to speak to the owner of a ..." Cyclestrian
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11:07am Thu 13 Sep 12

saynomore says...

This is the other side of the coin.A couple of weeks ago I witnesed a cyclist weaving in and out of two lanes of cars he suddenly without any hand signals pulled straight out infront of me from the left if I had not braked quickly I would have hit him so I had the "audacity" to sound my horn,this resulted in him pushing his bike across the front of my car and coming out with a tirade of foul language and anti car rhetoric in front of my young grandson and my wife.I found it amusing when he asked me how long would I like to stay there with him blocking my way when I said " As long as you like mate I am retired" it threw him a bit.I had to explain to my young granson that this was a moron and sadly he will meet a few more during his life.My wife and I are both cyclists and going to the Brecons for a cycling holiday in our camper van next week and we are not aggresive cyclists like these anti car idiots,so I hope someone pushes this clown off his bike soon.
This is the other side of the coin.A couple of weeks ago I witnesed a cyclist weaving in and out of two lanes of cars he suddenly without any hand signals pulled straight out infront of me from the left if I had not braked quickly I would have hit him so I had the "audacity" to sound my horn,this resulted in him pushing his bike across the front of my car and coming out with a tirade of foul language and anti car rhetoric in front of my young grandson and my wife.I found it amusing when he asked me how long would I like to stay there with him blocking my way when I said " As long as you like mate I am retired" it threw him a bit.I had to explain to my young granson that this was a moron and sadly he will meet a few more during his life.My wife and I are both cyclists and going to the Brecons for a cycling holiday in our camper van next week and we are not aggresive cyclists like these anti car idiots,so I hope someone pushes this clown off his bike soon. saynomore
  • Score: -2

11:07am Thu 13 Sep 12

hammer says...

Turtlebay wrote:
When you see the antics of the commuter cyclists along Barrack Road, Christchurch around 7.15 to 7.30 am it's understandable that motorists wish to take the law into their own hands. This morning I was driving along and the pedestrian crossing lights changed to red. Three Lycra clad cyclists rode at full speed through the red light, one actually clipped a pedestrian who was crossing. Since they have no registration plates it's impossible to report them so they get away with attempted murder. The idiot who knocked the pedestrian over was riding at about 30 mph, and had no lights. When I caught up with him after the lights changed to green he just stuck a finger up at me in a rude gesture!
SOME cyclists think they own the road and can break the law as and when they feel like it because they can't be identified and brought to book. Maybe they are wearing lycra that might be a tad too tight...........and it is restricting the blood flow........
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: When you see the antics of the commuter cyclists along Barrack Road, Christchurch around 7.15 to 7.30 am it's understandable that motorists wish to take the law into their own hands. This morning I was driving along and the pedestrian crossing lights changed to red. Three Lycra clad cyclists rode at full speed through the red light, one actually clipped a pedestrian who was crossing. Since they have no registration plates it's impossible to report them so they get away with attempted murder. The idiot who knocked the pedestrian over was riding at about 30 mph, and had no lights. When I caught up with him after the lights changed to green he just stuck a finger up at me in a rude gesture![/p][/quote]SOME cyclists think they own the road and can break the law as and when they feel like it because they can't be identified and brought to book. Maybe they are wearing lycra that might be a tad too tight...........and it is restricting the blood flow........ hammer
  • Score: -2

11:12am Thu 13 Sep 12

CyclingMikey says...

Let's hope many of the commuter cyclists out there will catch this driver. I run cameras front and rear here in London, and caught this incredibly shocking video last week. How close was this? The car twitched my sleeve after the driver swerved in on me, I believe intentionally.

http://www.youtube.c
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Let's hope many of the commuter cyclists out there will catch this driver. I run cameras front and rear here in London, and caught this incredibly shocking video last week. How close was this? The car twitched my sleeve after the driver swerved in on me, I believe intentionally. http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=eW07KrOMR 0Q CyclingMikey
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11:40am Thu 13 Sep 12

FNS-man says...

Turtlebay wrote:
When you see the antics of the commuter cyclists along Barrack Road, Christchurch around 7.15 to 7.30 am it's understandable that motorists wish to take the law into their own hands. This morning I was driving along and the pedestrian crossing lights changed to red. Three Lycra clad cyclists rode at full speed through the red light, one actually clipped a pedestrian who was crossing. Since they have no registration plates it's impossible to report them so they get away with attempted murder. The idiot who knocked the pedestrian over was riding at about 30 mph, and had no lights. When I caught up with him after the lights changed to green he just stuck a finger up at me in a rude gesture!
The driver of this car has committed crimes, and has not been caught. I presume that he has taken the registration plates off his car.

(There are so many completely obvious practical reasons why reg plates for bikes are a stupid idea that it is pointless writing them down here.)
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: When you see the antics of the commuter cyclists along Barrack Road, Christchurch around 7.15 to 7.30 am it's understandable that motorists wish to take the law into their own hands. This morning I was driving along and the pedestrian crossing lights changed to red. Three Lycra clad cyclists rode at full speed through the red light, one actually clipped a pedestrian who was crossing. Since they have no registration plates it's impossible to report them so they get away with attempted murder. The idiot who knocked the pedestrian over was riding at about 30 mph, and had no lights. When I caught up with him after the lights changed to green he just stuck a finger up at me in a rude gesture![/p][/quote]The driver of this car has committed crimes, and has not been caught. I presume that he has taken the registration plates off his car. (There are so many completely obvious practical reasons why reg plates for bikes are a stupid idea that it is pointless writing them down here.) FNS-man
  • Score: 2

11:57am Thu 13 Sep 12

The Liberal says...

Oh look, more 'anecdotes' (probably made up or exaggerated) from the anti-cycling lobby. What a surprise. You'd think people would be more worried about a psycho on the loose, but there you go.
Oh look, more 'anecdotes' (probably made up or exaggerated) from the anti-cycling lobby. What a surprise. You'd think people would be more worried about a psycho on the loose, but there you go. The Liberal
  • Score: 2

12:21pm Thu 13 Sep 12

hammer says...

The Liberal wrote:
Oh look, more 'anecdotes' (probably made up or exaggerated) from the anti-cycling lobby. What a surprise. You'd think people would be more worried about a psycho on the loose, but there you go.
There are a lot of psychos cycling around!
[quote][p][bold]The Liberal[/bold] wrote: Oh look, more 'anecdotes' (probably made up or exaggerated) from the anti-cycling lobby. What a surprise. You'd think people would be more worried about a psycho on the loose, but there you go.[/p][/quote]There are a lot of psychos cycling around! hammer
  • Score: -2

12:23pm Thu 13 Sep 12

PigWhistle0709 says...

jeebuscripes wrote:
What kind of nutter drives around between 6am and 7am on a Sunday morning attacking people?

More importantly, who on earth would drive a gold coloured car?
The same kind of nutter who drove around at about 6pm attacking me with a car and gotme convicted with the assitance of a lying copper mainly becuase he got his complaint onto their books before I did - and before anyone even thinks about defending the police against accusations of lying in court, check out today's news about the Yorkshire contingent.
[quote][p][bold]jeebuscripes[/bold] wrote: What kind of nutter drives around between 6am and 7am on a Sunday morning attacking people? More importantly, who on earth would drive a gold coloured car?[/p][/quote]The same kind of nutter who drove around at about 6pm attacking me with a car and gotme convicted with the assitance of a lying copper mainly becuase he got his complaint onto their books before I did - and before anyone even thinks about defending the police against accusations of lying in court, check out today's news about the Yorkshire contingent. PigWhistle0709
  • Score: 1

12:28pm Thu 13 Sep 12

PigWhistle0709 says...

NB: mind, that was Hampshire constabulary and this is Dorset - not long after, they prosecuted two guys for just driving past (not at) people and yelling abuse at them. Not so life-threatening, but the two nearly went to jail.
NB: mind, that was Hampshire constabulary and this is Dorset - not long after, they prosecuted two guys for just driving past (not at) people and yelling abuse at them. Not so life-threatening, but the two nearly went to jail. PigWhistle0709
  • Score: 0

1:15pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Holes Bay Curve says...

You put your life in the hands of others every time you venture out on your bike.

I was knocked off my bike by a fellow cyclist, who, having made eye contact with me, still cycled aggressively across my path.

The more visible you make yourself as a cyclist ( hi viz clothing , daylight visible LED lights) , the more chances you attract the attention of 'silly people' - those who fire things at you , shout at you for no reason other than to get a kick. Then there are the sinister motorists who overtake, then brake abruptly in an attempt to make you fall off - or who will drive at you on head-on on narrow roads or through a traffic calming chicane.

However, my favorite was from the earlier in the year when a moped rider overtook me, then slowed and drifted into my path on the cycle lane, whilst texting on his phone - when told to 'watch out' , he replied with obscenities and that he would 'smash my face in with his helmet'.
You put your life in the hands of others every time you venture out on your bike. I was knocked off my bike by a fellow cyclist, who, having made eye contact with me, still cycled aggressively across my path. The more visible you make yourself as a cyclist ( hi viz clothing , daylight visible LED lights) , the more chances you attract the attention of 'silly people' - those who fire things at you , shout at you for no reason other than to get a kick. Then there are the sinister motorists who overtake, then brake abruptly in an attempt to make you fall off - or who will drive at you on head-on on narrow roads or through a traffic calming chicane. However, my favorite was from the earlier in the year when a moped rider overtook me, then slowed and drifted into my path on the cycle lane, whilst texting on his phone - when told to 'watch out' , he replied with obscenities and that he would 'smash my face in with his helmet'. Holes Bay Curve
  • Score: 2

1:30pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Peacekeeper7 says...

I regularly ride along Barrack road, being that i live there. The number of times i've weaved in and out of traffic, because none of the cars passing give you any room. They expect you to jump onto the pavement out of their way, thereby forcing you to break the law. Or have your bike mangled around you. The buses for the most part go around you, but it's really ignorant when they force their way past you onto to stop right in front of you, instead of waiting 5 more seconds. Big trucks fly by causing you to swerve in the wake. Boy racers lean out fo their wondows and shout behind you to try and make you fall off. All drivers should be made to spend a couple of months cycling before they get a car, it would give them a great deal of insight. The don't knock it til you've tried it approach should be employed i feel. The other annoying thing is how much councils are spending on CCTV that never seems to catch anyone doing anything. What is the point? They're always pointing in the wrong direction as events occur. Except for the one in christchurch which used to look staright into our flat window. Pathetic.
I regularly ride along Barrack road, being that i live there. The number of times i've weaved in and out of traffic, because none of the cars passing give you any room. They expect you to jump onto the pavement out of their way, thereby forcing you to break the law. Or have your bike mangled around you. The buses for the most part go around you, but it's really ignorant when they force their way past you onto to stop right in front of you, instead of waiting 5 more seconds. Big trucks fly by causing you to swerve in the wake. Boy racers lean out fo their wondows and shout behind you to try and make you fall off. All drivers should be made to spend a couple of months cycling before they get a car, it would give them a great deal of insight. The don't knock it til you've tried it approach should be employed i feel. The other annoying thing is how much councils are spending on CCTV that never seems to catch anyone doing anything. What is the point? They're always pointing in the wrong direction as events occur. Except for the one in christchurch which used to look staright into our flat window. Pathetic. Peacekeeper7
  • Score: 2

1:43pm Thu 13 Sep 12

kingstonpaul says...

Typical yawn-inducing, rancorous us vs. them utterances whenever the issue of cyclists is aired.
Come on people, we're all road users, instead of jabbing fingers, let's just try and get on.
Typical yawn-inducing, rancorous us vs. them utterances whenever the issue of cyclists is aired. Come on people, we're all road users, instead of jabbing fingers, let's just try and get on. kingstonpaul
  • Score: 0

1:59pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Peacekeeper7 says...

We tend not to get on, as people will a ton and a half of steel around them, in their little cage, feel invincible and car little for the people on bikes/motorbikes who have very little protection. This is why i suggested a mandatory cycling period before being granted your car license. I think people in cars would be more courteous, and bike riders would feel safer knowing car drivers understood their plight. The reverse could be done where to get a cycle license, you had to spend a couple of months riding around in a car all day, with a safety instructor, so you could see how cars have to deal with errant cyclists. Unless you've been in a specific position, you have no hope of understanding it. So if both sides were made to 'walk a mile in each others shoes' it would promote more harmony on the roads. But at the end of the day, some people, motorists or cyclists will always be morons, and should be banned for repeated infringements. Maybe if cycle frame numbers were also mounted a plaque on the rear of bikes beneath the seats, it would help people identify them to police? If it was done at manufacturing it make little difference to the cost, and even if people change it, as long as they commit an offence, someone takes the number, and police catch them swiftly, the numbers will still match. They can't ride along the road filing off numbers! Which could also be an offence, blank or missing digits could get your bike impounded! It would level the field somewhat from a legal responsibilities point of view.
We tend not to get on, as people will a ton and a half of steel around them, in their little cage, feel invincible and car little for the people on bikes/motorbikes who have very little protection. This is why i suggested a mandatory cycling period before being granted your car license. I think people in cars would be more courteous, and bike riders would feel safer knowing car drivers understood their plight. The reverse could be done where to get a cycle license, you had to spend a couple of months riding around in a car all day, with a safety instructor, so you could see how cars have to deal with errant cyclists. Unless you've been in a specific position, you have no hope of understanding it. So if both sides were made to 'walk a mile in each others shoes' it would promote more harmony on the roads. But at the end of the day, some people, motorists or cyclists will always be morons, and should be banned for repeated infringements. Maybe if cycle frame numbers were also mounted a plaque on the rear of bikes beneath the seats, it would help people identify them to police? If it was done at manufacturing it make little difference to the cost, and even if people change it, as long as they commit an offence, someone takes the number, and police catch them swiftly, the numbers will still match. They can't ride along the road filing off numbers! Which could also be an offence, blank or missing digits could get your bike impounded! It would level the field somewhat from a legal responsibilities point of view. Peacekeeper7
  • Score: 0

3:32pm Thu 13 Sep 12

hammer says...

PigWhistle0709 wrote:
jeebuscripes wrote: What kind of nutter drives around between 6am and 7am on a Sunday morning attacking people? More importantly, who on earth would drive a gold coloured car?
The same kind of nutter who drove around at about 6pm attacking me with a car and gotme convicted with the assitance of a lying copper mainly becuase he got his complaint onto their books before I did - and before anyone even thinks about defending the police against accusations of lying in court, check out today's news about the Yorkshire contingent.
Of course you were a completely innocent cyclist - bless!
[quote][p][bold]PigWhistle0709[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jeebuscripes[/bold] wrote: What kind of nutter drives around between 6am and 7am on a Sunday morning attacking people? More importantly, who on earth would drive a gold coloured car?[/p][/quote]The same kind of nutter who drove around at about 6pm attacking me with a car and gotme convicted with the assitance of a lying copper mainly becuase he got his complaint onto their books before I did - and before anyone even thinks about defending the police against accusations of lying in court, check out today's news about the Yorkshire contingent.[/p][/quote]Of course you were a completely innocent cyclist - bless! hammer
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3:40pm Thu 13 Sep 12

s-pb2 says...

Peacekeeper7 wrote:
We tend not to get on, as people will a ton and a half of steel around them, in their little cage, feel invincible and car little for the people on bikes/motorbikes who have very little protection. This is why i suggested a mandatory cycling period before being granted your car license. I think people in cars would be more courteous, and bike riders would feel safer knowing car drivers understood their plight. The reverse could be done where to get a cycle license, you had to spend a couple of months riding around in a car all day, with a safety instructor, so you could see how cars have to deal with errant cyclists. Unless you've been in a specific position, you have no hope of understanding it. So if both sides were made to 'walk a mile in each others shoes' it would promote more harmony on the roads. But at the end of the day, some people, motorists or cyclists will always be morons, and should be banned for repeated infringements. Maybe if cycle frame numbers were also mounted a plaque on the rear of bikes beneath the seats, it would help people identify them to police? If it was done at manufacturing it make little difference to the cost, and even if people change it, as long as they commit an offence, someone takes the number, and police catch them swiftly, the numbers will still match. They can't ride along the road filing off numbers! Which could also be an offence, blank or missing digits could get your bike impounded! It would level the field somewhat from a legal responsibilities point of view.
Lots of boarders and bladers use the road too. I used to be one of them. We cant always use the pavements for obvious reasons. Should mandatory training also extended to boarding and blading? Im guessing motorists wouldnt be keen on this!

Back to topic I hope they catch this idiot soon before they really injure or even kill someone
[quote][p][bold]Peacekeeper7[/bold] wrote: We tend not to get on, as people will a ton and a half of steel around them, in their little cage, feel invincible and car little for the people on bikes/motorbikes who have very little protection. This is why i suggested a mandatory cycling period before being granted your car license. I think people in cars would be more courteous, and bike riders would feel safer knowing car drivers understood their plight. The reverse could be done where to get a cycle license, you had to spend a couple of months riding around in a car all day, with a safety instructor, so you could see how cars have to deal with errant cyclists. Unless you've been in a specific position, you have no hope of understanding it. So if both sides were made to 'walk a mile in each others shoes' it would promote more harmony on the roads. But at the end of the day, some people, motorists or cyclists will always be morons, and should be banned for repeated infringements. Maybe if cycle frame numbers were also mounted a plaque on the rear of bikes beneath the seats, it would help people identify them to police? If it was done at manufacturing it make little difference to the cost, and even if people change it, as long as they commit an offence, someone takes the number, and police catch them swiftly, the numbers will still match. They can't ride along the road filing off numbers! Which could also be an offence, blank or missing digits could get your bike impounded! It would level the field somewhat from a legal responsibilities point of view.[/p][/quote]Lots of boarders and bladers use the road too. I used to be one of them. We cant always use the pavements for obvious reasons. Should mandatory training also extended to boarding and blading? Im guessing motorists wouldnt be keen on this! Back to topic I hope they catch this idiot soon before they really injure or even kill someone s-pb2
  • Score: 0

4:16pm Thu 13 Sep 12

Loyal2AFCB says...

Comments attributed to the odious Clarkson together with the militant anti cyclist stance taken by the likes of the Bournemouth Echo are contributing to a climate where these sort of incidents are becoming more and more prevalent.
Comments attributed to the odious Clarkson together with the militant anti cyclist stance taken by the likes of the Bournemouth Echo are contributing to a climate where these sort of incidents are becoming more and more prevalent. Loyal2AFCB
  • Score: 1

4:36pm Thu 13 Sep 12

ekimnoslen says...

Turtlebay wrote:
When you see the antics of the commuter cyclists along Barrack Road, Christchurch around 7.15 to 7.30 am it's understandable that motorists wish to take the law into their own hands. This morning I was driving along and the pedestrian crossing lights changed to red. Three Lycra clad cyclists rode at full speed through the red light, one actually clipped a pedestrian who was crossing. Since they have no registration plates it's impossible to report them so they get away with attempted murder. The idiot who knocked the pedestrian over was riding at about 30 mph, and had no lights. When I caught up with him after the lights changed to green he just stuck a finger up at me in a rude gesture!
Yep - the Christchurch Peloton, idiots with no desire to obey any traffic regulations, rude, foul tempered and riding in anonymous groups. Don't forget however that their attitude is echoed by a small percentage of motor vehicle drivers and pedestrians.
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: When you see the antics of the commuter cyclists along Barrack Road, Christchurch around 7.15 to 7.30 am it's understandable that motorists wish to take the law into their own hands. This morning I was driving along and the pedestrian crossing lights changed to red. Three Lycra clad cyclists rode at full speed through the red light, one actually clipped a pedestrian who was crossing. Since they have no registration plates it's impossible to report them so they get away with attempted murder. The idiot who knocked the pedestrian over was riding at about 30 mph, and had no lights. When I caught up with him after the lights changed to green he just stuck a finger up at me in a rude gesture![/p][/quote]Yep - the Christchurch Peloton, idiots with no desire to obey any traffic regulations, rude, foul tempered and riding in anonymous groups. Don't forget however that their attitude is echoed by a small percentage of motor vehicle drivers and pedestrians. ekimnoslen
  • Score: -2

4:52pm Thu 13 Sep 12

hammer says...

ekimnoslen wrote:
Turtlebay wrote: When you see the antics of the commuter cyclists along Barrack Road, Christchurch around 7.15 to 7.30 am it's understandable that motorists wish to take the law into their own hands. This morning I was driving along and the pedestrian crossing lights changed to red. Three Lycra clad cyclists rode at full speed through the red light, one actually clipped a pedestrian who was crossing. Since they have no registration plates it's impossible to report them so they get away with attempted murder. The idiot who knocked the pedestrian over was riding at about 30 mph, and had no lights. When I caught up with him after the lights changed to green he just stuck a finger up at me in a rude gesture!
Yep - the Christchurch Peloton, idiots with no desire to obey any traffic regulations, rude, foul tempered and riding in anonymous groups. Don't forget however that their attitude is echoed by a small percentage of motor vehicle drivers and pedestrians.
If any members of the Christchurch Peloton break the law whether it is jumping red lights, cycling on the pavement and being abusive they should be dealt with by the Police!
[quote][p][bold]ekimnoslen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: When you see the antics of the commuter cyclists along Barrack Road, Christchurch around 7.15 to 7.30 am it's understandable that motorists wish to take the law into their own hands. This morning I was driving along and the pedestrian crossing lights changed to red. Three Lycra clad cyclists rode at full speed through the red light, one actually clipped a pedestrian who was crossing. Since they have no registration plates it's impossible to report them so they get away with attempted murder. The idiot who knocked the pedestrian over was riding at about 30 mph, and had no lights. When I caught up with him after the lights changed to green he just stuck a finger up at me in a rude gesture![/p][/quote]Yep - the Christchurch Peloton, idiots with no desire to obey any traffic regulations, rude, foul tempered and riding in anonymous groups. Don't forget however that their attitude is echoed by a small percentage of motor vehicle drivers and pedestrians.[/p][/quote]If any members of the Christchurch Peloton break the law whether it is jumping red lights, cycling on the pavement and being abusive they should be dealt with by the Police! hammer
  • Score: -1

8:56am Fri 14 Sep 12

Franks Tank says...

Just to head off some of the more ignorant commenters I just like to say:-
(sic)
"Road tax doesn't exist. It's car tax (aka) VED, a tax on cars and other vehicles, not a tax on roads or a fee to use them. Motorists do not pay directly for the roads. Roads are paid for via general and local taxation. In 1926, Winston Churchill started the process to abolish road tax. It was finally culled in 1937.
Car tax is based on amount of CO2 emitted so, if a fee had to be paid, cyclists - who are sometimes branded as 'tax dodgers' - would pay the same as 'tax-dodgers' such as disabled drivers, police cars, the Royal family, and band A motorists, ie £0. Most cyclists are also car-owners, too, so pay VED."
Just to head off some of the more ignorant commenters I just like to say:- (sic) "Road tax doesn't exist. It's car tax (aka) VED, a tax on cars and other vehicles, not a tax on roads or a fee to use them. Motorists do not pay directly for the roads. Roads are paid for via general and local taxation. In 1926, Winston Churchill started the process to abolish road tax. It was finally culled in 1937. Car tax is based on amount of CO2 emitted so, if a fee had to be paid, cyclists - who are sometimes branded as 'tax dodgers' - would pay the same as 'tax-dodgers' such as disabled drivers, police cars, the Royal family, and band A motorists, ie £0. Most cyclists are also car-owners, too, so pay VED." Franks Tank
  • Score: 1

12:37pm Fri 14 Sep 12

Finbarr Finkelstein says...

Did you know it costs 15p to call the 101 number?
Did you know it costs 15p to call the 101 number? Finbarr Finkelstein
  • Score: 0

2:42pm Fri 14 Sep 12

lceel says...

We see these same problems here in the States - and the same kind of rancor from both sides of the issue.

I ride. I love to ride. I ride because it's healthy and an eco-friendly thing to do. But when I ride, I try to ride trails and bike paths instead of the "public way". At 67 years of age, I'm too old to allow myself to get upset by the idiots who drive and think that cyclists don't belong on "their" road. Besides, it's WAY more scenic off on the bike paths. Of course, I don't "commute" by bike. I DO run errands and to the store and such, and that takes me to the highway, but I minimize travel on "the road" as much as I can.

It's just that it's pathetic that I have to.
We see these same problems here in the States - and the same kind of rancor from both sides of the issue. I ride. I love to ride. I ride because it's healthy and an eco-friendly thing to do. But when I ride, I try to ride trails and bike paths instead of the "public way". At 67 years of age, I'm too old to allow myself to get upset by the idiots who drive and think that cyclists don't belong on "their" road. Besides, it's WAY more scenic off on the bike paths. Of course, I don't "commute" by bike. I DO run errands and to the store and such, and that takes me to the highway, but I minimize travel on "the road" as much as I can. It's just that it's pathetic that I have to. lceel
  • Score: 2

3:02pm Fri 14 Sep 12

spankdex_clod says...

Turtlebay wrote:
Peacekeeper7 wrote:
I regularly ride along Barrack road, being that i live there. The number of times i've weaved in and out of traffic, because none of the cars passing give you any room. They expect you to jump onto the pavement out of their way, thereby forcing you to break the law. Or have your bike mangled around you. The buses for the most part go around you, but it's really ignorant when they force their way past you onto to stop right in front of you, instead of waiting 5 more seconds. Big trucks fly by causing you to swerve in the wake. Boy racers lean out fo their wondows and shout behind you to try and make you fall off. All drivers should be made to spend a couple of months cycling before they get a car, it would give them a great deal of insight. The don't knock it til you've tried it approach should be employed i feel. The other annoying thing is how much councils are spending on CCTV that never seems to catch anyone doing anything. What is the point? They're always pointing in the wrong direction as events occur. Except for the one in christchurch which used to look staright into our flat window. Pathetic.
So why the f*** are you riding on the road instead of the cycle path? Moron! It was built especially for cyclists. USE IT!
It always seems strange to me that cyclists are given such venomous criticism for cycling on the pavement, yet when the council "builds" a cycle path that is little more than some blue signs and white line on a perfectly ordinary un-widened pavement (such as Barrack road) cyclists are then criticised for NOT using it.

The cycle lane was not "built for cyclists", it is simply the council paying lip-service to the idea of creating a sustainable way of getting around.

Due to the number of side-roads and junctions it crosses, it is more dangerous than riding on the road.

As for the idea that the actions of some completely unrelated cyclists in another town justifying these yobbos attempting to push a 64 year old off his bicycle, i'm stunned...

Of course theres idiots cycling, just the same as theres idiots, driving or walking, it doesn't mean they are all the same person.

If i saw a boy-racer screeching down the road I wouldn't flag down the next driver I saw and start questioning his actions.
[quote][p][bold]Turtlebay[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Peacekeeper7[/bold] wrote: I regularly ride along Barrack road, being that i live there. The number of times i've weaved in and out of traffic, because none of the cars passing give you any room. They expect you to jump onto the pavement out of their way, thereby forcing you to break the law. Or have your bike mangled around you. The buses for the most part go around you, but it's really ignorant when they force their way past you onto to stop right in front of you, instead of waiting 5 more seconds. Big trucks fly by causing you to swerve in the wake. Boy racers lean out fo their wondows and shout behind you to try and make you fall off. All drivers should be made to spend a couple of months cycling before they get a car, it would give them a great deal of insight. The don't knock it til you've tried it approach should be employed i feel. The other annoying thing is how much councils are spending on CCTV that never seems to catch anyone doing anything. What is the point? They're always pointing in the wrong direction as events occur. Except for the one in christchurch which used to look staright into our flat window. Pathetic.[/p][/quote]So why the f*** are you riding on the road instead of the cycle path? Moron! It was built especially for cyclists. USE IT![/p][/quote]It always seems strange to me that cyclists are given such venomous criticism for cycling on the pavement, yet when the council "builds" a cycle path that is little more than some blue signs and white line on a perfectly ordinary un-widened pavement (such as Barrack road) cyclists are then criticised for NOT using it. The cycle lane was not "built for cyclists", it is simply the council paying lip-service to the idea of creating a sustainable way of getting around. Due to the number of side-roads and junctions it crosses, it is more dangerous than riding on the road. As for the idea that the actions of some completely unrelated cyclists in another town justifying these yobbos attempting to push a 64 year old off his bicycle, i'm stunned... Of course theres idiots cycling, just the same as theres idiots, driving or walking, it doesn't mean they are all the same person. If i saw a boy-racer screeching down the road I wouldn't flag down the next driver I saw and start questioning his actions. spankdex_clod
  • Score: 1

4:44pm Fri 14 Sep 12

macjames says...

Of course the biggest problem is driving, especially during rush hour, heightens blood pressure and stress levels whilst cycling raises heart rate and releases adrenalin. Put that together and you have two people very much at the peak of their emotions. Funny thing, chemistry.
Of course the biggest problem is driving, especially during rush hour, heightens blood pressure and stress levels whilst cycling raises heart rate and releases adrenalin. Put that together and you have two people very much at the peak of their emotions. Funny thing, chemistry. macjames
  • Score: 0

4:57pm Fri 14 Sep 12

spankdex_clod says...

macjames wrote:
Of course the biggest problem is driving, especially during rush hour, heightens blood pressure and stress levels whilst cycling raises heart rate and releases adrenalin. Put that together and you have two people very much at the peak of their emotions. Funny thing, chemistry.
Neither of these incidents occurred in rush hour.
[quote][p][bold]macjames[/bold] wrote: Of course the biggest problem is driving, especially during rush hour, heightens blood pressure and stress levels whilst cycling raises heart rate and releases adrenalin. Put that together and you have two people very much at the peak of their emotions. Funny thing, chemistry.[/p][/quote]Neither of these incidents occurred in rush hour. spankdex_clod
  • Score: 0

5:17pm Fri 14 Sep 12

pete woodley says...

Finbarr Finkelstein wrote:
Did you know it costs 15p to call the 101 number?
15P,Just to get talked down to by someone who has no respect,and could not care less the operators on 101 need to go for training.
[quote][p][bold]Finbarr Finkelstein[/bold] wrote: Did you know it costs 15p to call the 101 number?[/p][/quote]15P,Just to get talked down to by someone who has no respect,and could not care less the operators on 101 need to go for training. pete woodley
  • Score: 0

7:05pm Fri 14 Sep 12

What on Earth... says...

I have had similar happening to me. As a person with a push bike, rather than a "cyclist", I try not to cycle in the Bournemouth area as it's so dangerous. I have been cycling along Winton and nearly hit three times by cars just pulling out, and I'm often intimidated by the way cars treat me. I am frequently yelled at by drivers overtaking me (nothing against my cycling, I am also a driver so I obey the highway code) and abused by cyclists too (I was recently overtaken by a group of boys who spat towards the ground at me and yelled abuse), I'm a young female so this may shock you more.
Blame doesn't go to drivers or cyclists, what this story should pin point is people need to learn tolerance, responsibility and accept we're all just trying to get by.
I have had similar happening to me. As a person with a push bike, rather than a "cyclist", I try not to cycle in the Bournemouth area as it's so dangerous. I have been cycling along Winton and nearly hit three times by cars just pulling out, and I'm often intimidated by the way cars treat me. I am frequently yelled at by drivers overtaking me (nothing against my cycling, I am also a driver so I obey the highway code) and abused by cyclists too (I was recently overtaken by a group of boys who spat towards the ground at me and yelled abuse), I'm a young female so this may shock you more. Blame doesn't go to drivers or cyclists, what this story should pin point is people need to learn tolerance, responsibility and accept we're all just trying to get by. What on Earth...
  • Score: 1

2:45am Sat 15 Sep 12

PigWhistle0709 says...

hammer wrote:
PigWhistle0709 wrote:
jeebuscripes wrote: What kind of nutter drives around between 6am and 7am on a Sunday morning attacking people? More importantly, who on earth would drive a gold coloured car?
The same kind of nutter who drove around at about 6pm attacking me with a car and gotme convicted with the assitance of a lying copper mainly becuase he got his complaint onto their books before I did - and before anyone even thinks about defending the police against accusations of lying in court, check out today's news about the Yorkshire contingent.
Of course you were a completely innocent cyclist - bless!
Showuz yer evidence then, since your so sure... or are you a Yorkshire flatfoot who doesn't need any as well?
[quote][p][bold]hammer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PigWhistle0709[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jeebuscripes[/bold] wrote: What kind of nutter drives around between 6am and 7am on a Sunday morning attacking people? More importantly, who on earth would drive a gold coloured car?[/p][/quote]The same kind of nutter who drove around at about 6pm attacking me with a car and gotme convicted with the assitance of a lying copper mainly becuase he got his complaint onto their books before I did - and before anyone even thinks about defending the police against accusations of lying in court, check out today's news about the Yorkshire contingent.[/p][/quote]Of course you were a completely innocent cyclist - bless![/p][/quote]Showuz yer evidence then, since your so sure... or are you a Yorkshire flatfoot who doesn't need any as well? PigWhistle0709
  • Score: 0

9:57am Sat 15 Sep 12

miniminime says...

cyclists are an arrogant bunch of people who think they own the road never having taken a test to do so
cyclists are an arrogant bunch of people who think they own the road never having taken a test to do so miniminime
  • Score: -2

3:02pm Sat 15 Sep 12

stevobath says...

nobull wrote:
Don't push just any cyclist......make sure you get the right ones!!!!!!!!!
IE. red light jumpers, crossing ignore-rs, no signalers,they are the ones that need pushing off xx to all carefull cyclists xx
Plenty of car drivers doing the same thing.So, what do we do with them? Hammer to their windows? Brick maybe?

What about the drivers who just look straight ahead when they dont stop at crossings? These people are normally OAPs or women it seems. Yes.Lets just take the law into our own hands.

Driving along in a 'rigid steel safety cage' doesnt mean you can just ignore cyclists.
The majority of cyclists are fine just like most vehicle drivers.There are a few morons though you obviously being one of them..
[quote][p][bold]nobull[/bold] wrote: Don't push just any cyclist......make sure you get the right ones!!!!!!!!! IE. red light jumpers, crossing ignore-rs, no signalers,they are the ones that need pushing off xx to all carefull cyclists xx[/p][/quote]Plenty of car drivers doing the same thing.So, what do we do with them? Hammer to their windows? Brick maybe? What about the drivers who just look straight ahead when they dont stop at crossings? These people are normally OAPs or women it seems. Yes.Lets just take the law into our own hands. Driving along in a 'rigid steel safety cage' doesnt mean you can just ignore cyclists. The majority of cyclists are fine just like most vehicle drivers.There are a few morons though you obviously being one of them.. stevobath
  • Score: 1

3:06pm Sat 15 Sep 12

nobull says...

stevobath shame you can't read................
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stevobath shame you can't read................ .. nobull
  • Score: -1

11:21pm Sun 16 Sep 12

PigWhistle0709 says...

miniminime wrote:
cyclists are an arrogant bunch of people who think they own the road never having taken a test to do so
Check out the Cycling Proficiency Test and if that don't do it for you, the Highway Code, as studied pre-test by all car driving candidates. It should be enough to make you realise what's in the mind of all car drivers the day they go out on their bikes...
[quote][p][bold]miniminime[/bold] wrote: cyclists are an arrogant bunch of people who think they own the road never having taken a test to do so[/p][/quote]Check out the Cycling Proficiency Test and if that don't do it for you, the Highway Code, as studied pre-test by all car driving candidates. It should be enough to make you realise what's in the mind of all car drivers the day they go out on their bikes... PigWhistle0709
  • Score: 0

6:41am Mon 17 Sep 12

retry69 says...

kingstonpaul wrote:
Typical yawn-inducing, rancorous us vs. them utterances whenever the issue of cyclists is aired.
Come on people, we're all road users, instead of jabbing fingers, let's just try and get on.
The voice of reason unforunately it tends to fall on deaf ears,but we will keep trying wont we?
[quote][p][bold]kingstonpaul[/bold] wrote: Typical yawn-inducing, rancorous us vs. them utterances whenever the issue of cyclists is aired. Come on people, we're all road users, instead of jabbing fingers, let's just try and get on.[/p][/quote]The voice of reason unforunately it tends to fall on deaf ears,but we will keep trying wont we? retry69
  • Score: 0

11:11am Mon 17 Sep 12

Dorset Logic says...

The common factor in all incidents you are involved in on the road from rude gestures to accidents is always

you.
The common factor in all incidents you are involved in on the road from rude gestures to accidents is always you. Dorset Logic
  • Score: 0

5:39pm Mon 17 Sep 12

FNS-man says...

miniminime wrote:
cyclists are an arrogant bunch of people who think they own the road never having taken a test to do so
A road-owning test? Have you passed one of those? What are the questions like?

I've passed a driving test, as have the vast majority of cyclists on the road. It does little to protect you when hit by a car, though.
[quote][p][bold]miniminime[/bold] wrote: cyclists are an arrogant bunch of people who think they own the road never having taken a test to do so[/p][/quote]A road-owning test? Have you passed one of those? What are the questions like? I've passed a driving test, as have the vast majority of cyclists on the road. It does little to protect you when hit by a car, though. FNS-man
  • Score: 2

5:44pm Mon 17 Sep 12

retry69 says...

miniminime wrote:
cyclists are an arrogant bunch of people who think they own the road never having taken a test to do so
I feel anyone posting a comment such as this certainly should not be using the roads with any mode of transport for all our safety
[quote][p][bold]miniminime[/bold] wrote: cyclists are an arrogant bunch of people who think they own the road never having taken a test to do so[/p][/quote]I feel anyone posting a comment such as this certainly should not be using the roads with any mode of transport for all our safety retry69
  • Score: 1

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